The Herd with Colin Cowherd - THE HERD - Hour 3 - Mick Cronin stops by The Herd, Tomorrow's Headlines Today

Episode Date: March 27, 2026

Colin talks to UCLA HC Mick Cronin about their season, NIL, the NCAA Tournament, and more Tomorrow's Headlines Today with Jason McIntyreSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information....

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Starting point is 00:02:54 Find your local station for the herd at Fox Sports. SportsRadio.com or stream us live every day on the IHeart Radio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. So Mick Cronin's UCLA Bruins beat Illinois this year, beat Purdue this year, beat Michigan State this year, and battle with Arizona, who many believes the best team. I think Michigan's the best team. And Mick Cronin, UCLA basketball coach, two-time pack 12 coach of the year, 2020, 2020, is joining us.
Starting point is 00:03:31 Okay, so you also played Yukon and you beat Michigan State. I think that game's interesting. Cohen Carr is one of my favorite players in the tournament. He's just this relentless guy. I kind of thought what happened to you in the second half of Yukon is what happens to a lot of people with Yukon.
Starting point is 00:03:47 They're physical. You know, you end up, it's hard to hit shots. Yukon, Michigan State, you beat Michigan State. What's the game going to look like, do you think, tonight? I think it's just going to be whose defense is better. At the end of the day, they're both built on toughness and defense with great coaches.
Starting point is 00:04:10 They do it differently, though. Yukon is a real pressure team on the ball. And as you said, our guards didn't finish. It kind of wore them down. We didn't have our best player in the game, Tyler Bidow. And they do wear teams down with that relentless effort. on the ball defensive. Michigan State is a team defense, but highly effective.
Starting point is 00:04:35 Obviously, both great coaches, both will end up in the Hall of Fame one already is. So they may wear football pads tonight. Yeah, you know, Illinois, I think, was the best offensive team in the country. You beat them. You have to hit your shots to beat them because they're going to score. Are you surprised? I don't think anybody surprised Illinois is here. They spent a lot of money.
Starting point is 00:04:55 Their NIL was a lot. They went to Europe. Underwood likes European. guys. Michigan State's not a surprise. It's interesting. Matt Painter's interesting. He brings about one guy a year in. He basically pays his own guys. They do their own thing in West Lafayette. Are you surprised? I'm not surprised because I think they feel a little Villanova to me. You know, they kind of, they do their own thing. They high school it. The guys say there, are you surprised by any of these Big Ten teams so far? No. I'll give, you know, so I've been in
Starting point is 00:05:28 league two years, but Fletcher lawyer, Trey Kaufman, Ren, and Superman is what I call Braden Smith. They said it in an interview in January, early February, that in their four years, the Big Tens by far has the most talent and is as good a league as they've ever been in.
Starting point is 00:05:49 And it's just surpassed their first three years. And that's coming from those four, you know, those three guys. So I would say, you know, for Purdue, Matt's enjoying it. I think, you know, Colin, their preseason number one, it was almost like to me, they just got to get through the regular season.
Starting point is 00:06:07 Yeah. Because they've been, you know, Smith already one player of the year, they've all been all league already, they've won big games. They needed to get through the regular season, get healthy, and get to this tournament. Not that they didn't care, but you know what I'm saying, kind of like a,
Starting point is 00:06:23 you know, great teams in the NBA. It's just getting to the playoffs. And I think you're, you know, you're seeing it now. But they got an obviously Saturday, a tremendously tough matchup with Arizona. So I've been defending coaches that bark this week. And I think most people understand that volume works. Because one of the things I always say is an NBA coach gets multiple games in a series. You get a 30-second time out and the season's on the line.
Starting point is 00:06:48 You get one game. One bad call by an official. One of your guys gets in foul trouble, you know, careers end. what has always been your sort of rule? Arenas are loud, it's intense. You want to get along with a player, but they can transfer it anytime. It's a different ball game.
Starting point is 00:07:07 Where do you land on tough coaching, hard coaching in the world of the transfer portal? No different than before. I think, first of all, your players have to know that you know what you're talking about. So do they believe you're making them a better player. Secondly, they signed up to play for coaches that winning is the only thing acceptable.
Starting point is 00:07:31 Listening is the only thing that's acceptable. And doing whatever it takes and giving your best effort is the only thing acceptable. So they understand when they didn't do that. They didn't listen repeatedly. You went over a scouting report a million times and they didn't do the job right. So, you know, it's become, Colin, such a clickbait world. that I'll give you a quick one. Rick Petino last year didn't put R.J. Luis in the game at the end. If you remember, they lost to Arkansas.
Starting point is 00:08:04 He was their best player. And he got murdered, murdered. And he may be the best Collins coach since John Wooden. He's argued with him, Mike Chieshefky, Bob Knight. Obviously, John Wooden would be wrong. Okay. Now, this year, everybody's celebrating Coach Patino because Dylan Darleney made a layup.
Starting point is 00:08:21 Now, if he doesn't make that, and they lose an overtime, Oh, he blew a 12-point lead, but, you know, everybody is today, what can I say? Jump on. Look, at the end of the day, whether Darling makes that layup or not, Rick Retortino is one of the best ever. And everybody does them differently. And right now, oh, you know, this guy's too intense.
Starting point is 00:08:43 Like tonight, I heard Dan Hurley and coaches are both getting asked those questions. Yeah. Look, when you win, everybody loves you. When you lose, everybody crush your shirt. And that's just, look, and we can pay it a lot of money. So if you can't take the heat, you will not survive the kitchen in this era, because it's 24-7 scrutiny. St. John's is, I mean, they beat Kansas and Kansas outshot them, points in the paint, more rebounds. And St. Johns is a team that just, you know, they just let Bettino laughs.
Starting point is 00:09:14 He's like, they don't think we can shoot. And so far, we're proving them right. Would you be shocked if St. John's beat Duke tonight? Would it shock you? I think everybody has picked St. John's because Coach Petino's like my older brother now. I mean, I wouldn't be here if it wasn't for him. I think everybody's picking them.
Starting point is 00:09:33 They're the trendy pick. They're forgetting how talented Duke is. It will be, to me, it would be a monumental upset. Now, it's because St. John's is all tried and athleticism. They have to turn Duke over and be able to get the ball in the basket. Because the oldest thing is, Colin, you can't press it. if you don't score. So you can't pick them up full court and do what you do
Starting point is 00:09:56 if you can't get it in the basket. Guess who's number one in defensive efficiency? Hardest team to score on Duke. So to me it would be a big, big upset, although obviously I'll be wearing red from my man, Co. Spatino tonight. I think Michigan's the best team. Talk about Michigan, the Michigan you face.
Starting point is 00:10:19 You know Lindenborg's terrific. You obviously know Mara. Tell me what you think about their roster. We have three first round picks. Linden Board's a lottery pick. Mara's going to be a tremendous pro. He just needed time to grow up incrementally better each year. And it's a disadvantage when you come from a small town in Spain.
Starting point is 00:10:41 He just needed time and growth. He's a great kid. And Marez Johnson is Montrez-Sarel. I mean, he's a little taller. Their front line is unbelievable. Now, KSON getting hurt took a little punch away from them, but they bring a guy off the bench, Tray McKinney's going to play a long time in the NBA. They have the best talent.
Starting point is 00:11:05 They have seniors. They have a guy Roddy Dale off the bench that would start for any other team in the Big Ten. So their talent, I agree with you. At times, at times, I think they take early shots and settle, and they let teams hang around out of overconfidence because in early in the season you're talking about a team that was winning games by 40 points against Gonzaga you know team like real like real teams like who does that so I you know again I think for them it's and they did it against Purdue in the big 10 championship game they let Purdue stay in the game so they they tend to let you stay around by shooting early threes
Starting point is 00:11:49 and not just pounding you to death with their size. If they do that and they play to their maximum, I totally agree with you. They're the best team. You guys gave Arizona, if I recall, a good game. I mean, they have bench guys that can start for teams. They don't shoot a lot of threes. What is the secret?
Starting point is 00:12:08 Your UCLA Bruins gave them a battle. What's the secret to beating Arizona? We have bloodbats with them every year. So we kind of know each other. so well. The games tend to be really close. Tommy Lloyd's an unbelievable coach. They're front line. If it gets to Michigan, Arizona, the front lines are both the best two by far. Because they both have three guys.
Starting point is 00:12:36 Arizona has Crevas, Coa Pete, first round pick, and Toby O'Waco is the strongest player in college basketball. They just dominate you in the paint. And that's coaching now. It's always been Coach Lerner. Floyd style since he got to Arizona. And they put so much pressure on the rim that he foul a lot. Teams getting foul trouble. We're up seven on them late and they just, they wore
Starting point is 00:12:59 us down with the constant pressure. And they got a senior point card column. You know, Bradleys is, you know, Jane Bradley's as good as there is out there. That's not on, you know, he'll play in the NBA. But obviously the freshmen are all the sexy guys for the draft.
Starting point is 00:13:15 Having that senior point card and then a lottery picket to two and Brady, buries. To me, they're right there with Michigan. Yeah. I don't like to beat up on coaches on the Fred Hoyberg had four guys on the floor. It's rare. You know, listen, I've watched great coaches have 10 men on the field in the NFL in big third downs. Like, it happens. It's chaos. Yes. I'm glad you said that. Yeah, I mean, it just happens. What do you think happened in your take on it? I mean, I'd be, you know, since I like the horses, I'd be willing to bet you on this. Somebody, they made a defensive substitution.
Starting point is 00:13:59 And two guys thought they were out, not one. That's just my educated guess. Yeah. They made a defensive substitution and said, and you and I are both bad defenders, Colin. I was an offensive player. And two guys thought they were both out for defense probably. And look, it's just, it didn't, what bothers me about all of it, they, they, they, they, they, they were 98% going to lose now. I mean, it was, I was ball, they're up three under a minute.
Starting point is 00:14:28 I mean, you know, so, but obviously, if it was, you know, you know, you don't want that to happen to anybody. And it's sad, because Fred, what Fred Hoibberg did with the talent he had, to me, in the league he did it in, he's national coach of the year. But Fred's been through worst things. I mean, Fred's living on a pacemaker. So if anybody has great perspective, it's definitely Fred. I mean, he's the best. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the I Hard Radio app. Hi, this is Jay.
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Starting point is 00:19:15 When you said it, I defended him. I said, you know, UCLA is kind of a fascinating school where it's in the nicest neighborhood of any campus in America, but does not have a ton of NIL lettuce. It's a reality of it. So let's go to the bite that made news. Here it is. Big picture-wise, third consecutive season, not get into the second weekend of the tournament. I know different seasons, different reasons, but do you feel like anything needs to change with the approach?
Starting point is 00:19:42 Russia construction or the way you're... Yeah, I have no... Right now, I'm worried about tonight. Consoling the guys. We'll stay here in the front row. I'd like about five more million. There's my answer. Jim Alexander from the Orange County Register.
Starting point is 00:20:01 Watching Tyler on the bench... Not for me. Haven't... Yeah, I mean, let's be honest. These are discussions. Every coach is having behind the... I'd say to be honest. We're the athletic director. Now, now, it's...
Starting point is 00:20:15 I've said, you don't have a big filter. it's not who you are, authentic guy. Was UCLA upset with that? Don't know. You know, look, look, we have NIL. Some teams have absorb an NIL. Ours is improved from last year. My administration's working hard to help.
Starting point is 00:20:35 So, and everybody says, look, some people are just lucky, you know, Colin. Like, people say it's the death of the mid-major. Well, not if you have a billionaire donor that wants to win. Right. you know like any anybody i have friends that coached in the mid-american conference Akron Miami the two best teams guess who has the best in i am Miami go i'll and acorn so uh it all matters at the end of the day but it allows you to not be perfect so i talked to bob Myers is some uh it's a basically like a consularity
Starting point is 00:21:08 played at UCLA you know he's the best GM ever and how to work this error and he like His analogy was, look, you're never going to be perfect. My every draft pick, the Warriors made it, you know, has not been perfect. James Wise, maybe. But the more resources you have, the more it allows you to make a mistake. Sure. And, you know, you mentioned Illinois. They got great support.
Starting point is 00:21:30 But they've also were smart enough to sign Keaton Vogler, you know. And they beat Minnesota and Colorado State to get him. And Murray State, my old schools. You know, so there's still diamonds in the rough. you're still trying to put a team together. But there's no coach who wouldn't like to have more. And it gives you a better chance. But we have great support.
Starting point is 00:21:52 There's just levels to it. And obviously, the more you have, Coach Roberts, my buddy, your Dave Roberts will tell you it's a lot more fun when you have the best players. Yeah. All right, Mick Cronin, UCLA basketball coach. I imagine you're, I mean, is this a recruiting period? Can you be on the phone now or do you have to wait? We had, and this isn't just us.
Starting point is 00:22:16 We got back Monday from Philly from the NCAA tournament. And still haven't hung up the phone, my friend. Still have nothing. You got to re-sign your own players. Yeah. And then as you've got to get ready for the portal. And everybody in college is complaining about the way it is, and it's a wasted time, my friend.
Starting point is 00:22:34 But you just got to adjust and deal with what's going on now. Because as coaches, we have no say-so. We're not at the table at what's going to go on. And so to me, it's a complete waste of time, even talking about it. You better embrace what you need to do right now. You're going to get left behind. So we just try to focus. We've been signing our own players all week.
Starting point is 00:22:58 Mick, great seeing you. Have a great weekend watching it. You too, my friend. All the best. Maybe I'll see you again soon. All right. Mick Cronin, UCLA basketball coach. They beat Michigan State.
Starting point is 00:23:07 They beat Illinois. They beat Purdue. they gave Arizona, UCLA as maybe the best West Coast, probably the best West Coast rivalry. So good stuff there. Jay Mack with the news. No, no, no, turn on the news. This
Starting point is 00:23:22 is the herd line news. Nick Cronin, really good interview, Colin, and you know who's going to be a good interview soon? That's Caleb Williams in Chicago because he just got in a huge controversy. Your guy in your backyard there, Caleb Williams is now in a battle, so to
Starting point is 00:23:38 speak, over the nickname Iceman. Remember last season in the playoffs? He was just so cold with all those clutch plays. Yes. Well, he wants to be known as the Iceman, so he filed for the patent. And former Hall of Famer in the NBA, George Gervin, that was his nickname. Right. Now, Caleb Williams probably not born. I'd never heard of George Gervin before this, but George Gervin said he was caught off guard when he hadn't locked the name down. So three days after Caleb filed for it, George Gervin filed for it. And now there's a bit of a bit of a lot of it. a tug of war over the nickname Iceman.
Starting point is 00:24:14 You know, obviously the late actor from Top Gun, I'm sure. He obviously had Iceman back in 1985. I don't know when Gervin got it, maybe in the 70s. Colin, this is a controversy, big one in Chicago. Who is siding with here? I don't think it's rising to a big controversy. Our politics are controversial in Chicago. Yeah, I mean, I'd like to call.
Starting point is 00:24:40 Here's the thing. You can build a lot of stuff around Iceman. If you are Caleb Williams, you're the Iceman now. You could trademark it and you can have merch and you can do everything and he could show up at interviews at the podium with his merch. Then people are buying it. It's another revenue street. Now, I'm fine. I'm with that. George Gervin was the Iceman in like the 80s.
Starting point is 00:25:01 How can George Gervyn profit off the name now? I don't, I mean, I don't understand his argument. Well, I think, you know, Jordan's jump man. so that was obviously prominent. I don't know the legalese around it. Is this sour grapes from Gervin being like, oh, he wants to be the iceman? I'm the ice man.
Starting point is 00:25:20 As somebody who formed a company four years ago, finding a name that's available. Hard. If you ever start a company, good luck. It took us six months. So, you know, we'll see what plays out. I mean, people are saying that Caleb, hey, be original, get your own nickname.
Starting point is 00:25:38 I promise you. He's never heard of George Gird. You know? All right, let's move on to the next story. Colin, that is the Pittsburgh Steelers and Aaron Rogers. Now, you and I love good takes, guys who are coming out of the blue with stuff. How about this from former Steelers quarterback Charlie Batch on why Aaron Rogers is not a done deal yet in Pittsburgh? This is original and fresh.
Starting point is 00:25:59 Take a listen. When it comes to Aaron, this is a guy who outplayed his contract. And it will stand by this and there's not many people out there. I may be the only one saying this at this particular point. This decision is coming down to money. The Steelers would like him to come back, yes, but it's not going to be at the $13 million number. I'm sure Aaron at some point, and I had not spoken to him, but I'm sure his representative are wanting something closer to 30. And you hope that somewhere you meet in the middle.
Starting point is 00:26:28 Yeah, I think that, I think Charlie is right. And I think that, I think Aaron did absolutely outplay his contract. And I think Aaron making 32 million a year is reasonable. Absolutely. Whoa. In that Baker, Sam Darnold class, absolutely. Holy so I did not expect that take from you. I thought this was great from Charlie Batch.
Starting point is 00:26:45 Here's the thing. Aaron Rogers at that $13 million price helps Pittsburgh be a playoff team. Aaron Rogers at 32? Yeah, he gave you that. And then he outplayed his contract. So he gave you that at 13. Okay, he made the offense, which was atrocious in the red zone, excellent. The team
Starting point is 00:27:08 had fewer turnovers. It was a smarter offense due to Aaron. Aaron has no obligation to give you multiple years. It's not even team friendly. They basically got him for free. Why? Because he stunk with the Jets. He's terrible. Now he doesn't
Starting point is 00:27:24 stink. Well, he had one good year. Well, sorry. Who's got the leverage? Will Howard? Here's my counter. Aaron, thank you for playing on 13 Mill. That was awesome. You helped. us get to the playoffs by taking a low contract. Hey man, do you want to win again? Do you want to try to win again? We'll love you at 15. I'll say, there's a difference between a small number and a
Starting point is 00:27:45 ridiculous number. 30 is still incredibly team friendly. 13 is giving it away. Fine. What about 20, Aaron? Will you do 20? We'll get it over 20? How about 20 with incentives? How about 28 with incentives that are easy to reach and get to 33? Fine. How about going to your career? Your last pass was a pick six. Enjoy the darkness Retreats and irrelevance. $300 million in the bank, Hall of Famer in your last year, you were darn good.
Starting point is 00:28:12 Yeah. You know, this is a guy who craves the spotlight. He's going on podcasts, talking about Fauci and all this political nonsense. Hey, man, play football. Lock in. Come play your final year.
Starting point is 00:28:23 Let's make a run. Play for 18 mil. Sacrifice. Aaron Rogers, that's who you are. Do it. You in? That's a firm no from Cowherd. All right, final story.
Starting point is 00:28:32 Let's go back to the UFL. season kicks off tonight. Birmingham Stallions versus Louisville Kings, eight eastern on Fox. Tomorrow, the gamblers take on the renegades. We had Renegades head coach Rick Newheisel on the show earlier today about why he loves the UFO.
Starting point is 00:28:48 This is the purest form of football. You were just talking about NIL. These kids are on scholarship. Everybody makes the same. Everybody just wants one more chance to play. And I promise you, having been on the practice field for now the last five weeks, there's plenty of guys that can play on Sundays.
Starting point is 00:29:05 Yeah, 46 guys in the UFL were on NFL at some point last year. So I don't think there's any question. The quality of football has gotten better every year. For sure. Totally agree. Jay McH for the news. Well, that's the news.
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Starting point is 00:29:36 What's the news, new? Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to a... We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there.
Starting point is 00:29:50 But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. And, well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this.
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Starting point is 00:31:12 That's where Sports Slice comes in. I'm Timbo. Every episode, we're cutting through the noise, breaking down the plays, the controversies, and the stories behind the headlines. We go straight to the source, the athlete themselves, their locker room stories, their reactions, the stuff nobody gets to hear. The laughs, the drama, the triumphs, the moments that never make the highlight real. From viral moments to historic games, from buzzer beaters to controversial calls, we break it down,
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Starting point is 00:32:13 I mean, she went down in three to Rabakina, but I'm delighted. She's an outsider to win the French for me. And she likes Clay. Listen, Lerabakina Rabakina is arguably the best player in the world. right now and I actually can win on any surface because if she's serving well good luck consider this your court side seat to the French Open listen to the Renee Stubbs tennis podcast on the iHeart radio app Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts presented by capital one founding partner of iHeart women's sports imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but
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Starting point is 00:33:22 We like to call it, J-Mack. Tomorrow's headlines today. All right, J-Mack, what's the headline for the lock of the Sweet 16? This is a big one tonight, Colin. It's great game, two legendary coaches. Did you know Dan Hurley has won his last 14-20 games by double digits? The headline for Yukon and Michigan will be. Leash, we forget.
Starting point is 00:33:48 Husky's still best in show. I didn't like either of these teams coming into the. the tournament, but Yukon is starting to look pretty good. I was surprised they pulled away from UCLA with the nice win. Alex Caraband is one of these legendary players. Kind of like, not quite Christian Leitner, but he's been around for many years. Really good player. He had a great game against UCLA.
Starting point is 00:34:07 They're getting healthier. And I just don't like this Michigan State offense. I know, is there's a big watcher? We talk about them a lot. Colin, I see them struggling here. These two teams, by the way, played an exhibition game. That's how in the weeds I am. It was ugly.
Starting point is 00:34:20 They were like 55 fouls. and 40 baskets. And Yukon prevailed. I see this as like a first to 60 wins. I think Mick Cronin said it's going to be like a bring your straight jacket. Like this is going to be a really, really tough physical game. So I'll go Yukon in a close one. Yeah, same.
Starting point is 00:34:37 I feel the same. Tomorrow's headlines today. What's the headline for the South region? Man, this Iowa team, I love them, Colin. They have been extremely profitable in the tournament. But they're going up against a juggernaut. They headline on Saturday in the elite. Eat 8. Will, me. Orange, you glad?
Starting point is 00:34:55 Eli and I squeeze the pulp from opponents. I'm going Illinois. I got some buddies watching who are going to be ticked off. There's just too many weapons on this team, Colin. I mean, I think it was Bill Raftery who had the great call. Take me to the Balkans after one of these dunks by one of these Euros. They've got so many dudes. It's unbelievable. And by the way, Keaton Wogler entered his name in that top five for the draft. Did you see him last night, number 23, like a long 6-6-6 guard can handle. Houston is like, they're going to pressure the hell out of you. He was undaunted.
Starting point is 00:35:29 And shaky first half and adjusted second half was huge. I think Mick Cronin said, like, he was a Murray State recruit. And he was like, like Minnesota was after him. He goes to Illinois. He could be a top five pick. He's really lethal. They got Stryakovik, his son, who I like, seven-foot-one twins. I mean, Colin, this team's loaded.
Starting point is 00:35:48 Illinois needs, they're going to, they could win the title, honestly. Tomorrow's headlines today, what's the headline going to be in the Midwest region? Yeah, you know, this is a controversial team simply because that's how things work in the NCAA tournament. When you're popular, they give you controversy. The headline for the Midwest region will be, dust gets the win. All we know is dust gets the win. Colin, I am I singing, hopefully trying to. to impress you. Yes, I like
Starting point is 00:36:20 them for sure. The Michigan Wolverines. How can you not love this team, Colin? I mean, they were number one most of the season. Absolute juggernaut. Where's the weakness? You tell me where they're weak. No, I mean, it's their front line is just overwhelms
Starting point is 00:36:36 college teams. Yeah. When you got a 7 foot 3 center and you got Lendaborg who's like a wing, somebody said his NBA comp is like Obi Topin and I was like Oh, I think he's a better player than Obie Topin. He's a more well-rounded player. He can hit threes.
Starting point is 00:36:51 Obie was good at Dayton. He was a good player. Lindenberg's a different level play. Yeah, he's a little more well-rounded coming out of college. Michigan is just deep, strong, fast. They can play at any pace. So they'll play the winner of Iowa State Tennessee. And, you know, Iowa State's best players down, Tennessee, don't love them.
Starting point is 00:37:08 So I think Michigan prevails. Tomorrow's headlines today. How about the headline for the West region? Yeah, everybody keeps trying to put this coach over to North Carolina. And you and I are in lockstep. Like, why would he leave the headline for the West and the NCAA tournament will be? But for real this time, cats deserve a round of a pause. Yes, Arizona.
Starting point is 00:37:32 How good is this team, man? I said they had four first round picks last week, and your audience got so angry at me. Now people watch them drop 109 on Arkansas. They're like, oh, okay, this team is loaded. Coa Pete last night. I felt like they were dunking anything near the rim. Some of that's Arkansas doesn't protect the rim at all, but their guards are incredible. I just, I don't see who's stopping this team.
Starting point is 00:37:54 I know Purdue, some numbers say that Purdue should be able to hang with them, but everything Purdue does, Arizona does better. I don't think it's a great matchup for Purdue. And I think Matt Painter's terrific, but I think there's limitations on personnel. I think it could get ugly. And you saw Purdue struggle with the Texas athleticism. They couldn't contain the guards off the dribble. Arizona's got two pros in the back court.
Starting point is 00:38:14 So I know, you know, Braden Smith is the, the all-time assist leader in college basketball, great career. The kid lawyer is gunning from three. I just think Arizona's going to be too much. I may bet them with the lines up to six, six and a half already. I don't know. Tomorrow's headlines today. Now let's finish it off.
Starting point is 00:38:30 What do you make of the East Region? Well, this is the big game. Everybody loves to hate Duke. Can they prevail? The headline for the East Region tonight will be, You Booze, you don't lose. I'm going with Carlo Boozer's twins. I think they prevail tonight against.
Starting point is 00:38:47 St. Johns. Now, Colin, this should be on paper a great game. St. John's does a lot of pressure, and Duke's got a freshman point guard booze her son. There is a report in the last 30 minutes from a sideline reporter at CBS that Caleb Foster is going to be available tonight, three weeks after surgery on his foot. So he could, I don't know if he's going to start, but he could play, which would help alleviate some of that pressure. Caleb Foster, really solid player in the backcourt, smart and Eddie. I just think Duke's a better offensive team. I think they contain St. John's. And remember, St. Johns is here because they beat a bad Kansas team with a career high six threes from a guy who doesn't make threes. Okay, that that's what it took to get by Kansas at a buzzer shot from a kid
Starting point is 00:39:27 who had not scored a basket all game. So I'm going with Duke over the Johnny's tonight. Well, I'm going to tap my head. It's time for the, um, a challenge. I'm going to do the, I'm going to challenge Duke over St. John's with our new herd automatic bad take system. Bad take system. I love this. I don't love. I'm going to take St. John's in the points. That's a good bet by you. I like the bad take system.
Starting point is 00:39:54 Are we going to employ this like all the time now? Yeah, whenever you have a take, it's outside of the zone. But wait, it's not just me. I mean, what are our coaches? I mean, we can do this for, do you kick or go for it?
Starting point is 00:40:04 Duke's better, but it's just Petino in these games keeps it close. Yeah. And the pressure's all, I mean, it's house money. I mean, the pressure's all on Duke. They're supposed to win it. I'm telling you, if that kid's healthy,
Starting point is 00:40:15 Duke, Arizona, Michigan, those are, and I'll say this. Go look at who you, Yukon had one stinker against Marquette. Then they lost to Arizona, St. John's. Yeah. I think Creighton beat him once.
Starting point is 00:40:33 Would you be shocked if Yukon won it? No. Wait, beat Duke or won the whole title? They're not winning the title. UConn is not winning the championship. They could take down Duke. But by the way, to go back to the challenge, I really like that, Colin. A coach decides to kick
Starting point is 00:40:48 the field goal instead of go for it on fourth down. You could throw up your challenge. Terrible take. Terrible decision. Okay, so I'm going to take, I don't know, Michigan's winning, Yukon favored, I take Iowa State, Illinois over, I kind of feel like it gets easier now because I feel like the top
Starting point is 00:41:06 three or four, there's a, I don't think there's a big gap between a lot of teams. I think Michigan, Arizona, there's a gap. Illinois, the problem is Iowa just can't keep up. I mean, Illinois is going to score 70. Who's going to control the pace in that one? But I will say if Iowa somehow gets to the final four and they play Duke, Colin. That has shades of Gordon Hayward all over again from Butler making a run.
Starting point is 00:41:29 And Duke can slow it down or Iowa can slow down Duke. I do believe you're on to something. If those three ones advance Duke, Arizona, Michigan, that's huge for the TV audience, the interest nationwide. And then you've got Iowa bringing up the heartland. Remember Caitlin Clark got to the final four? and the ratings were off the charts. Iowa doesn't have a Caitlin Clark,
Starting point is 00:41:49 but everybody likes his kid Bennett Sturtz, Ben McCollum, the coach. This is just a great tournament. All right, we had a good week. I'll be watching tonight. You'll be watching tonight. Michigan State Yukon's great. Hey, Yukon, Yukon did to UCLA,
Starting point is 00:42:03 because UCLA beat Michigan State this year in Purdue and Illinois, and then Yukon took them apart, is Yukon just puts pressure on you, and UCLA's guards couldn't hit shots, and it got ugly fast. Yukon has been, if I said to you, best college basketball program in America today,
Starting point is 00:42:20 is it not Yukon? Well, they got two titles in the last three years. I mean, it's just, I mean, it's so interesting. They have the best women's program. Yep. And I'm going to say this for about the third different time in my life. I think Yukon has both the best men's and women's program. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:42:37 It's in Stores, Connecticut. That's crazy. Well, they don't care about their football team, so they invest everything into basketball, which is smart. Well, even if you invests, in the football team, they're not going to go anywhere, right? It's just amazing.
Starting point is 00:42:51 It's like Nebraska dominating football in the mid-90s of all the places in the country. Yukon has the best men's and women's program. Now, again, they may have the best two coaches. You know, Gino and Dan, you're not going to beat that much. All right, we're done. Have a great weekend. Third. Hey, guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe.
Starting point is 00:43:12 I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas. We invented a podcast. Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions. Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it, but, you know, tired and sick.
Starting point is 00:43:30 Tired and sick. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman, help make. make you funnier.
Starting point is 00:43:50 This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer, Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter.
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Starting point is 00:44:21 breaking down the biggest moments in sports and giving you the real story behind the headline. And we're going straight to the source, the athletes themselves. Their locker room stories, their reactions in the moment, and the stuff nobody gets to hear. Listen to Sports Slice on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Sliced Life 12 in the TikTok podcast network on TikTok. Winning on clay is an art. The rallies are relentless.
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