The Herd with Colin Cowherd - THE HERD - Hour 3 - More on Taylor Swift-Travis Kelce engagement, Jerry Jones and Micah Parsons, Brian Billick

Episode Date: August 26, 2025

Jason talks to Cowboys insider Jon Machota to find out how close Jerry Jones and Micah Parsons are on a contract extension More on Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce announcing their engagement Former NFL coach Brian Billick joins to the show to talk about the start of the NFL season and what to expect from the top tier teams  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Sports Radio. Welcome back to the herd. In between news about Travis Kelsey and Taylor. So if we're going to actually talk sports, because that's what we're here for. So we're bringing in John Machota, Cowboys Reporter, covering the team for the athletic. Oh, John, I'm sure you are just loving the dog days of August

as everybody waits for Jerry to blink with Micah Parsons. How are you spending your days right now? Excited? Phone in hand. constantly seeing if there's anything that's changed. No, it's fine. I mean, it's not like this is new. You know, this is what the Dallas Cowboys do.

They've done it with Dak Prescott. They've done it with C.D. Lamb, Zach Martin, Ezekiel Elliott, Des Bryant. I mean, the list goes on and on. And in the end, what happens is the players always end up getting their money. So it seems very ugly to people that aren't around it. And it might even get uglier than it is right now. But ultimately, Michael Parsons isn't going anywhere.

And he will eventually get a new contract from the Dallas Cowboys. Yeah, it's weird. They made the big splash move going after Pickens. So the offense could actually be kind of good. I don't know. Dak Prescott healthy. Pickens on the outside. Lamb on the outside.

Like, they could be good offensively. I just have so many questions about the defense. And of course, Schottenheimer's head coach. I'm curious where you are with Shottie leading this team. I mean, I like him from a media perspective. He's very media friendly. He certainly understands our job. But there's just a lot of questions that I don't think

have been answered yet. I mean, there's only so much you can get out of training camp. There's only so much you can get out of preseason games where they're not really playing many starters at all. And that's really been the case for Dak Prescott for the last four or five years. And so you really don't know. And then you match in the George Pickens and how he fits with the offense. The fact that Brian has said that he's trying to be as vanilla as possible at camp and then also in these preseason games because he doesn't want anybody to know what he can show on offense. And so certainly it should be a good passing game. I just have questions

about the run game. And if you can't run the ball, I don't know how teams don't just sit there and drop two safeties as deep as possible and say, I'm not going to let C.D. Lamb and George Pickens beat us. What is your counter to that? And that's what we don't know yet. Yeah. It's weird. They've moved off

of the starting running back maybe three years in a row. I'm not sure if that's exactly right. But Rico had a good year last year. And now they ran Giovante Williams. Listen, I don't know if you play fantasy. He's the kind of guy that you pick up and then drop within a week because he'll go for like five carries for like 12 yards and you're like, this guy's not very good. You're right. The run game's a major problem. Is it not? It is. And I'm just stunned that over these last two years,

there hasn't been a bigger move to add a veteran running back or draft one in one of the first two days of the draft. And so as we sit here today, Javante Williams will be the starter. So for those looking for who the Cowboys Starter would be in fantasy. I would say Javonte Williams. Jaden Blue, their fifth round pick out of Texas would be the guy that adds some juice to the offense, but he's coming off of a little bit of an ankle

injury. And so I don't know how quickly he'll be utilized. I'm sure he'll get some touches against Philadelphia, but I don't think that he's enough to push Javante Williams away. And then behind them, it's I think a little bit of Kavante Turpin, the wide receiver, might be a little bit of a wild card there. maybe two, three touches a game.

They will hand the ball occasionally to C.D. Lamb as well. And so I don't think it is going to be just your, you know, solid, normal, Ezekiel Elliott, you know, DeMarco Murray-type running game. I think it's going to be a variety of things that might even include the fullback Hunter Lipke. It's interesting. Listening to you talk about some of these guys,

I start looking at their draft history. And Jerry, he's had a couple whiffs in recent years, huh? Last year, nobody really distinguished themselves in the draft. two years ago, they did all right. And then there's the Mazzie Smith pick, which has been a unmitigated disaster. Like, listen, I know he's a billionaire. He runs the team. But at any point, do you anticipate Cowboys Brass sitting down and being like, guys,

we're going to have to do something here? Or is there just no chance of that happening? Are you talking about in terms of Michael Parsons? Well, Jerry Jones botching every contract. Oh, no, that'll never change. him out but no that's not as long as he's around nobody will be stepping in and and saying i mean we've seen it with this micha parsons thing it was i would say a few months ago something where i can see stephen jones being involved it's done now this is a jerry situation it will get

done when jerry wants it to get done so it remains that way now jerry does listen to the people around him you know i i don't want it to come off as like he just goes around and he just goes with whatever the, you know, the last person he talks to. There's a lot of rumors of that. Now, he listens to people that are around him, but on these big decisions, he's going to be the final say on these things. And so that's why when you see the Micah contract dragging out, people often ask me, how do you think it'll be different when Stephen Jones is running

the team? There won't be as many of these things. I mean, Jerry has an ability to hold a grudge like very few others. And where we're at right now with that, I think is a great example of it. And I don't think anybody can talk him out of it. he has to do it himself. So he's now going on podcasts. He went on a podcast with Michael Irvin. This is a guy over 80 years old going on a podcast. And he's actually seems like he was talking trash about this Micah situation with the agent and shoving it up his butt. And like, it just did not

sound good at all. What's your take? Have you spoken with Micah's agent? And where's he on all this? Not recently. No, I don't have much contact with him. And, That's, I think, by design. David Mulligetta, who you're talking about, Michael Parsons' agent, much like Todd France, these are two of the top agents in the NFL. And Todd France doesn't do much media either. And he represents Dak Prescott and has gotten Dak Prescott two of the most incredible deals the last two times that they've gone to the table against Jerry Jones.

They've no question won those battles. And so if you're David Mulligata, why not do the exact same thing? you don't need to get in a war of words. You let everything take care of itself and let Jerry do what he does, say what he says, but the track record speaks for itself and that Jerry ends up paying all of these players. Things got ugly with Ezekiel Elliott.

I remember being in Hawaii for a preseason game where Tony Pollard looked pretty good, and Zeke was in a holdout. And myself and a couple other reporters are standing with Jerry after the game, and he said, Zik who? As if Zeke wasn't needed for the team. And then, you know, you fast forward,

to three weeks later, if that, he's signing Zeke, and then they're holding a T-shirt up that says Zik who and everybody's laughing and having a good time. So it's like, Jerry is fine with everything getting ugly. The issue you run into is it causes problems for everybody else. And the players will say it's not a distraction, and the coaches will say it's not a distraction. But it's an issue not to have your best player on the field

throughout training camp with a new coaching staff. And so even if this gets done in the 11th hour, it's cost you all that time when Micah could have been on the field with this new defensive coordinator with this new coaching staff. Yeah. What about lying on the table? I know it only was brief. It barely happened, but it happened. You know, everybody wants to make a big deal out of it. Schadenheimer getting asked about it afterward. Just talk me through watching it go down and your thoughts. Yeah, so it's in the third quarter and another media member mentioned it to me and said,

hey, look at where Mike is at. And I was like, okay, you know, of course. being the journalist that I am, I snapped a picture with my phone, but I'm like, yeah, maybe it just is going to last for like 30 seconds, not a big deal. And then a minute goes by, two minutes go by, three, four, five minutes. And I'm like, all right, well, I'm posting this. Others have already posted this. It just doesn't look good. But with that being said, even when things are going well with the Cowboys and have gone

well with Mike in the past, he isn't the best body language guy, whether you're at practice or whatever. It was kind of funny that Jack Prescott made mention of that yesterday when we talked to him about, you know, Micah's body language has clearly been that he doesn't want to be at these practices. He does not want to be at these preseason games. He wants a new contract. And so even Dak joke that, you know, it's not like he's ever been the best in that category in terms of the body language. But it's very clear that Micah's frustrated and that while he wants to be there for his teammates, he wants to try and drive this hard bargain that I'm not going to be out there

until I get this new contract. And now you basically have these two trains headed towards each other and who's going to give first, you know, or are they just going to run into each other and it's going to be a disaster? I seem to think someone's going to give in eventually. I just don't know if it's week one. Oh, so you're saying you think there's like a maybe 50% chance Micah does not play in week one?

The line's kind of pinballing between seven and six. It's at seven now. I guess that's assuming, hey, Michael Parsley playing week one. So when I was saying that, I kind of meant that a contract might not be done week one. I think to give you percentages, I would say, I think it's an 80% chance that Michael Parsons is on the field. I think there's a 75% chance that it's without a new contract.

I think Jerry's pretty dug in on this one. Someone has to make a first call. He still hasn't talked to David Mulligeta. A deal's not going to get done until he talks to David. And so who makes that first call? I don't get the sense that David's going to make that call. And so does this just come down to Jerry Jones one night, having one extra Johnny Walker blue and giving in and making this call?

maybe that's what it is. Good stuff. All right, John, you even know his drink. John Machota covers the Cowboys for the Athletic. Good stuff, man. Thank you very much. Thanks for having me on. All right.

Boy, that is a tough job, Rachel. Listen, I know you covered some beats. I am. I just can't imagine being on the Dallas Cowboys. This crap's going every single year. The only saving grace is that you usually can find Jerry. Ray Jones at a bar somewhere and get quotes from him. Probably great stuff.

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We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it.

Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast where people could call in and say, hey Jonas.

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You got to take? Well, I got to take. Yeah, let's just say there's some guys on staff here, Rachel, who are not as keyed on the story as you and I. You seem to love this stuff. I'm into it. Listen, I work there's a celebrity magazine. We're not in like week eight of the NFL season, guys.

Yeah, if this happens, you know. It's not even training camp anymore. If this happens next Thursday, an hour before the kickoff, it's like done as soon as the ball kicks off. Yeah. Then it's gambling and fantasy and football. Yeah. But you're right.

These are the dull days of August. Well, to give you sort of the world interest in this couple, if not the people on the Fox Sports staff, when she was on his podcast just a couple weeks ago, it set a Guinness World Record. A Guinness World Record. Most ever listen to live podcast interview ever. Ever.

So there you go. You know, we joked about the Caitlin Clark impact. If you just put her in your podcast title, your podcast downloads go up. Like that was a thing for like a year. Yeah. I wonder how many podcasts tomorrow in sports will have Taylor Swift in the headline. Just because people will automatically, Dave, want to know what's going on, there's an obsession. Here's my last nugget on this.

You ready? Engagement ring. I'm not going to put you on the spot and ask you how much you spent on yours. But Travis Kelsey, how much do you think you put out for that engagement ring? I'll give you a little context. It's eight carrots. No, stop it. Eight carrots?

Is he bankrupt? That's expensive as hell. By the way, the post down has 12 million likes. Well, there you go. More than half a million dollars for the record. I don't know. I'll just, gosh, this is going to be embarrassed. $3 million.

More than half a million. So $5.50. Oh, that's not that bad. I mean, Travis Kelsey. He's got money. Doesn't he lead the NFL income, commercials? So did you spend what, 480 on yours? No. That's not that bad, 550.

No, I did not spend close to that. Let's talk a little football. Joe Mixon has been dealing with an ankle injury this offseason. This has been a huge mystery. He's been unable to practice during OTAs, mini camp. His last time participating with the team came in their divisional round loss to the Chiefs. And yesterday, the team announced Mixon would not be activated from the non-football injury list ahead of the deadline. That means he has to miss at least the first four weeks of the season. And who knows if it's better by then? Jason, we don't know what happened.

It was just in a wave from football injury. That's all we've been told. How do you think this is going to impact C.J. Stroud, who obviously wanted to have a bounce back season. Now doesn't have his lead running back. Yeah, it was a jet ski accident or something? Like, you know, that stuff's not good. Although I did go on a jet ski recently. It was awesome.

So they have an entire number. offensive line. They're going to, they're starting running back, I guess will be Nick Chubb, who was not with the team until recently. CJ's trial got sacked like 70 billion times last year. And they're facing the Rams in the opener. Are you going to go to the game? It's a so-fi. Yeah. Yeah, should be, that should be good. I think the Rams beat them in that. I'm not as high on the Texans as everyone else. I know two years ago they were awesome. And last year they made the playoffs. I don't, I personally don't see it. I've cooled a little bit.

The defense is going to be filthy, led by Will Anderson and company. But I like the Rams in that opener. That mixing loss is big. Now, if you get mixed and healthy, mixing and Chubb, that's pretty nasty. Everybody's rooting for Nick Chub, who's just all-around good guy. Yeah, where are you on the Texas this year? I mean, this changed my opinion somewhat. I liked the idea of turning the offense around somewhat because Stroud and the new coordinator

seemed to really have hit it off, and there seems to be a real symbiosis to how they're running things. CJ is actually going to get more discretion over plays, cause it the line, stuff like that. year. So I think he's going to thrive in that environment. But again, this is a huge deal. And you're throwing around Nick Chub like it's the Nick Chub of two years ago. He's coming back from such a gruesome injury. He didn't even start playing again. He missed most of the year he got hurt because I think that was like in week two or something. He didn't come back for another year plus into week seven. And then his first game back, I looked it up. He had 11 carries for 22 yards. That's not what you want. Now obviously, you know, you get better and better as you

come back, but there's no guarantee what Nick Chubb is going to be, and if for at least four weeks, maybe more, C.J. doesn't have that kind of threat, I think that's a little bit of the fact. Even the wide receiver room. I mean, Nico Collins is really good. Christian Kirk is hit or miss. The young kid, uh, Jaden

Higgins, the draft pick, he's supposed to be a big deal. Tank Dell can't stay healthy. Like, just unlucky for the Texans. Yeah, yeah. Not a good start that they wanted. However, there were more teams in worse shape, Jason, because we now have odds on the hottest seat among head coaches, otherwise known as which NFL coach is most

likely to be fired first. Vegas is looking at Mike McDaniel, which, you know, looking at you, man. The rest of the top five, let's take a look. Mike McDaniel, by the way, plus 200, Brian Dable, plus 400, Shane Steichen, 700, and then we get a tie, Dave Canales, Kevin Stefansky, 750. So look at the screen. Dolphins at Colts and Indy is favored? How is that? I mean, have you discussed their quarterback situation lately? I mean, I don't. I don't. How do you not take the dolphins there?

By the way, two of the top three coaches to be first fired, dueling it out in week one. Yes. I would like the dolphins there. Now, I don't know what's going up with Devon A Chan. Tyreek Hill always seems to be a mystery. So it's possible that Miami implodes because, you know, it looks like that McDaniel. is the kind of guy who could easily lose the locker room. I like him personally.

I mean, I don't know him personally, but I like everything I've read about him and heard. Oh, that's it. He's obviously super media friendly, right? And he's just different. I mean, he presents it as like, I embrace my inner nerd, right? Just different from all the coaches with the coach speak that you see year after year. So I think he became a bit of a media darling. Obviously had early success, offensive genius, all of that stuff.

But there's an interesting article in the Washington Post I saw where they, interviewed a couple GMs, right, of other teams in the league. Here are some of the quotes. It's kind of a dead man walking thing. Isn't it? The quote was, what he's selling doesn't look like it's playing in the locker room anymore. The thing looks like it's falling apart. Another GM said Miami feels like a ticking time bomb. The head coach was all fun in games for a while, but there's not enough tough love. So that speaks to the culture that you were referencing. And I think that's why. It's just, and also everyone else in the AFC East improved, right? They didn't improve.

Jets, I don't know. We'll see. But, yeah, Patriots got a lot better. Bill's Super Bowl favorites. It's tough for McDaniel. You know, he didn't play. And I'm a kind of guy who's rooting for underdogs. I would consider him an underdog, no?

Oh, absolutely. I mean, he's kind of amazing he got to the spot he got at, considering there's so much group thinking football, right? Well, let's go out, not go out on a limb, let's do the safe thing. I'm going to look bad as a GM or an owner. If I take some wild chance. If I get a guy who's typical for that position and he doesn't work, no one's going to like single me out.

But if I hire Mike McDaniel, people might be, what were they thinking? Outside the box. It's just risky, right? I like it. Yeah. I mean, as an outside the box guy, website guy, I love it. Good stuff. Rachel, with the news.

Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The herd line news. All right, coming up next, we've got a former NFL coach to talk about this Shadur-Dillin-Gabriel situation. and also the Baltimore Ravens. Is this the year? That's next on The Hurd.

Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, huge news? We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast?

Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts. We're starting a trend. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, Jonas, guys?

I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what should we, should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this.

We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, Hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it.

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I'm Michelle McPhee, and this is one of the most shocking criminal conspiracies I've ever come across. When Jacob met Levant this went to a billion-dollar fraud. But with two kings from entirely different worlds, just how long can their empire survive? The largest tax investigation in American history. You need to tell me what you know. Is somebody coming after me?

Jacob told Levan, you're ruining my life. Listen to Kingdom of Fraud on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Last night, a blown call changed a game. This morning, the internet lost its mind. Highlights are trending, opinions are flying, and nobody's telling you exactly what happened.

That's where Sports Slice comes in. I'm Timbo. Every episode, we're cutting through the noise, breaking down the plays, the controversies, and the stories behind the headlines. We go straight to the source, the athlete themselves. Their locker room stories, their reactions, the stuff nobody gets to hear.

The laughs, the drama, the triumphs, the moments that never make the highlight real. From viral moments to historic games, from buzzer beaters to controversial calls, we break it down, give you context, and ask the questions everybody wants answered.

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Weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. on Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the IHeard Radio app. All right. We have a great guest stopping by right now. Brian Billick, a legendary coach in the NFL, won a Super Bowl with the Ravens. He is vacationing. Oh, look at that summer home. Looks beautiful.

Brian, you guys got cable TV up there, right? Yeah, and we actually get radio and the phone works, and it's all great. Yeah, we're up. It's God's country up here near the Canadian border and the temperature's perfect and lots of good golf. Love it. And what about preseason action? Are you just digging into it?

Or are you more like, let me play some golf? You know, I kind of, on the periphery, I'll wait to the regular season really cranks up. You know, it's exciting that the regular season is crank it up. So I'll do a little more of a deep dive now that now it's for real. Yes, now that it actually matters. I like that. Let me just start with this. Obviously, there was a trade.

The Browns got rid of Kenny Pickett. they said for months that the Cleveland Browns were like, oh, we can have four quarterbacks on the roster. We will do it. We're prepared. And of course, they didn't do it. It didn't even come close. And they traded picket.

What do you think this does to that quarterback room with two rookies and a 40-year-old Joe Flacco, who you are kind of familiar with? Yeah, Flacco can be a great mentor for them, although knowing Joe, I don't know that that's really how he sees it because he wants to play. But yeah, he can be that. He brings a wealth of knowledge to it. But at the end of the day, the Browns have got to make a decision. They've got to make a decision right now.

Because at some point, those rookies are going to play. And I'm a big believer that if you draft a guy, you need to play them, particularly in the first round. Now, they don't have that first round pick. So when it comes to Shooterer Sanders, there's really no pressure. It's not like he was a first round pick where you basically have to start this guy. The fact that he was, what, a fifth round pick? They could do with it however they want to. If they choose to go with Flacco and let that go until all of a sudden now,

something happens, either to Flacco or the season hasn't gone well enough and go with the other guys. But I think Kevin Stafansky, he needs more success right now than maybe what the two rookie quarterbacks might give it. Yeah, it's interesting. You phrase it that way because some people are like, hey, he's won coach of the year twice. We had a reporter covering the team that said Sifansky safe. But I don't know. You go three and 14 last year with a win total that was projected to be nine. What if they win four games this year?

Gabriel stinks. Shador stinks. Like, is Stefansky safe? I'm sure you've dealt with some of these kinds of stories around the league where the owner's like, oh, it's fine. And then come December, it ain't fine. No. The word coach and safe don't belong in the same sentence, let alone the same paragraph, because that's the pressure of the National Football League.

But that is the challenge of them right now. If they go with Flacco and go with the veteran quarterback, because they think they're a pretty good team and they, and Joe has shown that they can, they can win with Joe, then that's great. But if it doesn't, and if he doesn't play well, or the team doesn't play well, now you have to go with the young guys.

I don't know that now to kick into the mode of, well, they've got young quarterback, so it's just a matter of how well do they develop. It really doesn't matter how well the season goes. I think Kevin Stefanski's long enough with the Browns, that might be a tough sell. So two other young quarterbacks around the league, I just saw the Saints have announced Spencer Rattler has won the job and he will get the quarterback spot in the opener. They just drafted a guy Tyler Shuck who's 25 in the second round.

What are these teams doing, Brian? It just is puzzling. Spencer Rattler was awful last year. Why don't you see what you got in the young guy, the rookie that you just drafted? Well, that's the decision they have to make. seen enough to feel like, I guess, they think Radler. If this is what we'll start with him and then we'll move to the second rounder, that doesn't bode well.

That usually doesn't go well. Because now you're really counting on what if he does play well. And Radler's one of those guys that can look really, really good or he can look really, really bad. If you can keep it on the 30 pitch count and you can get the good Spencer Radler, that's great. If he has to throw the ball 40, 45 times, now you're going to see everything that he is, and that's some good and that's some bad. So like I said, even though he's only a second round pick,

I'm very much a believer that you've got to play the quarterbacks that you draft early to find out what you have. Totally agree. Let's go to the team you know well. The Baltimore Ravens, you won a Super Bowl there in year two. Listen, they are close. They have all the personnel. Super Bowl odds are there.

It really comes down to the big postseason games. And Lamar either hasn't delivered or Mark Andrews. drop the pass. I know you get asked about it a lot, but your thoughts on the Ravens heading into the season. Well, they're as good as anybody in the national football league. They've got as dynamic a player or quarterback next to maybe Patrick Mahomes as there is in the league. They play great, solid defense. So you're right. I mean, they have been there. And it's been a play here, been a play there. And you can't just dismiss that. But by the same token, they've been in that position. So there's no reason to think they're not going to be in that position again. And I've got to

believe that given the same situation next time Mark Andrews catches the ball. So yeah, I think they're clearly going to be right there. They're going to be in the hunt, notwithstanding injury, and they're as good as anybody in the National Football League. Yeah, listen, it's tough, man. And not everybody can win a Super Bowl. Like, Dan Marino got there, never got back. John Elway could not deliver until he gets Terrell Davis late in his career. Like, these are things Lamar and Josh Allen are still relatively young, right? I mean, Are we putting too much pressure on these guys? Or is it that Patrick Mahomes has just changed the equation with all his early success?

No, I don't think you're putting too much pressure on them because that pressure exists. At the end of the day, they've got to get to that next level. They've proven they have the abilities to do all the other things. And they're with teams that are good enough to take that next step. Now, they happen to be at a time when you also have Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs. It's like, you know, Phil Nicholson is a phenomenal. little golfer, but he obviously grew up in a era of Tiger Woods, and there's no denying that that's a part of how you look at a Phil Mickelson and everything that he accomplished, as

opposed to what he could have accomplished. Well, the same thing with Lamar, same thing with Alan, that it comes down to it, that it's going to be compared because they clearly are contemporaries with Mahomes. They are clearly on good enough teams, and it's just a matter of you're right. When you get to that final games, things have to fall into place. The Ravens did everything they needed to to be in that position except for that final drop by Mark Ambers. That was a tough one. Now I see the sweatshirt there, ex-tech. You're promoting ex-tech.

Can you tell us a little about it? Yeah, I mean, this is the 14th season. And, you know, this is the pet. It's the best pad. It's the number one patent pro and major college football players like we just talked about. Josh Allen, Justin Jefferson, Fred Warner, elite colleges, Oregon, USC, Penn State, and the like, the top high school programs. in the country. They're all wearing and using ex-tech pads because it is the best pad.

You know, in the old days, it was old, you know, big pads on big guys, little pads on little guys. It's not that way anymore with the technology we have. This is AI driven. We have 14 years of data now that these basically pads are basically form fitted for the athlete based on height, weight, age, position, injury history, the things, you know, all the things that they should be based on. It's absolutely the best pad. It's the pad our young people need to be in. And I'm really gratified to see parents now vesting themselves in the process. They're going to XtechPADS.com. They're seeing the difference in this pad,

seeing the difference that it makes for their players because nothing's more important than keeping these players safe in what is a very volatile and physical game. XTEC pads is that next level of protection. That's awesome, man. Congratulations on that. And thank you very much for taking the time. Enjoy the rest of your summer up north.

All right, we'll do it. All right, Brian. Thanks a lot. Brian Billick, Super Bowl champ with the Ravens. It's interesting. I was just looking at his bio. Rachel, are you ready for this? He was drafted in the 11th round in 1977.

295th pick. Can you believe they had that many picks? Yes. Early 70s, or mid-70s. That's kind of wild. I was going to ask him about Brock Purdy, but I didn't know how to weave. Hey, you were an 11th round pick.

What do you think of Mr. Irrelevant, starting for an NFL team? Anyways, by the way, obviously, Rachel and I are surviving the Travis, Kelsey, Taylor Swift engagement. I mean, very exciting news. The memes are flying. I mean, I saw a funny one about how Navidia and Taylor Swift are propping up the U.S. economy. Reported here first, Jason, right here on this show. The Dow Jones spiked after the engagement announcement. What a world we live in.

I mean, so we got news on day one yesterday. Terry McClure in middle of the show. Yeah. And then today the engagement. So maybe Micah Wednesday and then can we keep getting news every day? Y'all are way more optimistic than me. I do not think this

Micah Parsons deal is getting done anytime soon. Okay. All right. A little pessimist over there. I am. I mean, look, it might be last minute DAC style thing, but I just don't see anyone budging here. Jerry, think about the shows. The content. That's what we do.

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