The Herd with Colin Cowherd - The Herd - Hour 3 - More on the Jets

Episode Date: August 30, 2023

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to the J-E-T-S suck, suck, suck, no more? I don't know. How's Fireman Ed doing? Has anyone done a wellness check on Fireman Ed? I mean, this is like the Jets are getting all the tension. I don't think he can do that Jets thing with handcuffs, right? No.

No? Anyway, so everyone's buzzing about the Jets and all this. So they were on Hard Knocks, and how many, is this, is this the final episode of Hard Knocks or is there one more? So I think there's one more episode of Hard Knocks. And so they've done a wonderful job. The people in NFL films are amazing. I've known this since I was a kid, Rob.

Back, you know, I'm old. So when I was playing high school football, I'll be like my high school football days. But the coach to get us fired up would play NFL films videos, like season in review videos. And they would make some of the most god-awful teams. I remember there was one about the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. And they did this document. and the bucks were terrible, and they played at the, was it the sombrero, I believe it was what they called the stadium there? Yes.

Creamsicle uniforms. Creamsicles, yes. But I was convinced after I watched this documentary that Tampa was about to win the Super Bowl. And they were just dreadful. But it's the way they tell the story. So they've done this with Hard Knocks and they've been... They did it with the Lions last year with Dan Campbell. Oh, Dan Campbell.

Oh, what a great talker. Lions didn't make the playoffs. You remember? Oh, yeah. But by Lions standards, they had the greatest season they could possibly have. No, they did not. The bar is very low there in Detroit when it comes to the Lions, right? You'd admit that.

You'd admit the bar is not that high. When they gave up 350 yards on the ground of Carolina, is that? We all have bad days. We all have bad days. Anyway, so the Jets getting the full treatment here, and they are getting the manny and the petty from NFL films, all-inclusive. Everything's covered. They're full body massage. And give you a little taste here of what it's been like, the latest installment over there at HBO.

Here is Aaron Rogers. Let's do the one with practice. Not a game. Not a game. We're talking about practice. Here's Aaron Rogers, who is scolding his teammates. And, of course, this is a very important soundbite is it's being used to show you how things are different now with the jets. Take a listen.

Mistakes of one basic at 12 to 14 yards. Mistakes in one damn drive. It's unbelievable. Drop three balls in three wrong routes and a... false start. You know that sounds like to me, your old buddy Lou Panella when he was managing the Tampa Bay Rays. Remember that clip in the dugout when he was walking

through the dugout and he, this is why you guys suck. This is why you guys lose all these games. Let me tell you, Lou was the manager when I covered the Reds in Cincinnati. He was a gem. Sports writer's dream? Sports writer's dream. You know, he played in New York so he had a lot of

practice dealing with the media and Lou had all the jokes, all the good stuff. He knew to give us the media stuff. He was great. I mean... That's what it reminded me of, the tone of Aaron Rogers. And so this is being presented, as we said, as a way to describe how things are different.

And people are loving... It's not just jet fans, but it's the Sven Ghali effect where people, they see this, and they're like, okay. And this is no research on my part. This is just off the top of my head. But I feel like, and I don't have anything to back this up, that if you go back the last five or six years. The team that's on Hard Knocks gets more attention. The casual

gambler is convinced that hey, this team's going to be good. I remember the Cleveland Browns were on there a few years ago, and people were like, the Browns, Baker Mayfield. Don't you remember when they got OBJ and everybody had them going to the Super Bowl? But the Hard Knocks thing, I think it was a big part of that, and it's the Hard Knocks

effect. You know who loves it? The gambling houses, the casinos love it, the sports books, because people, they bet their money, it's free money. Here's more. from hard knocks. This is from the last exhibition game that Jets played against the Giants and there was a back

and forth, Aaron Rogers this is audio behind the scenes audio, Jihad Ward of the Giants and listen to the back and forth. Bro? That's that. Show some respect, bro. Come on, what the fuck is that? Five damn six. I don't know who you are.

I don't know who you don't know. You don't know. I'll ever hurt you. Drops back. Love sports. Front left pylon. And I gave him the line that's uncomebacked with a bull. I said, I don't even know who you are. But he said, he said, I don't know who you are. I said, bull.

I think he said, I don't know who you is, though. Is that right? Technicality. You know, I teach at USC, I'm just saying. You're a professor. That's right. I'm impressed. I'm impressed by that.

I would be afraid of any football player on the other team who doesn't know that Aaron Rogers is a Hall of Fame quarterback. Really? You don't know who he is? No, but I'm on Jihad Ward's side. You know, we're equals in that moment. Yeah, maybe you're better than me and you have more money. No, but don't ask like you don't know who he is.

Come on. That's great. That reminds me of the old Stern show back in the day when they used to send Stuttering John out to the red carpet. And he's, I don't know who you are. Why are you famous? I think that was the guy. Why are you famous? And celebrities would get so upset.

They'd be so angry. Like, how could you dare ask me that? That's funny. Stuttering John. You have a stuttering John story? By the way, I did not plan when I came into the calling Coward show mentioning Stuttering Johns. No, I'm not going to say it. We'll save that.

All right. No, I hear you. Listen, the whole Jets thing, and they had a – at one point, they had a Sopranos vignette where they showed Robert Sala, like the famous opening scene of the Sopranos, with Tony Sopranos driving in on a Jersey turnpike. And they showed Robert Sala in the car and all that. And so here we are. The season is about to begin next week. Jets open up on Monday night. not this Monday, the next Monday against the Buffalo Bills.

And is it going to be good, bad, or ugly for the JETS in 2023? I think that they'll be better than they were a year ago, but just talk about Super Bowl and just the AFC with all the good teams and what happens. And I think the jets are in a different place. They've talked enough. They've been built up. Team, they're not going to sneak up on anybody. that's what they did a year ago when they won seven games and then their season collapsed

and they didn't have a quarterback. Aaron Rogers is going to make them better. How much better? I just don't see them going to the Super Bowl. And I think there's a good chance that the Jets could wind up being the Mets. And I know people don't want to hear that comparison. But the Mets won 101 games last year, Ben. They did.

They added Justin Verlander, an MVP, I mean a Cy Young winner and a comeback. player of the year. So you would think they're going to be better, right? The Mets are going to the World Series. They'll have Scherzer, they'll have Verlander at the top of their rotation. You go into a three-game series. You like the odds? I love the odds. Yeah, you would think.

It didn't happen. Looks good on a computer, like on your phone when you're looking at the right. Look at that rotation. Oh, yeah. This could go to the World Series. So my point is, it ain't just paper and adding a quarterback, a Hall of Fame quarterback, adding water, stirring, and you're going to the Super Bowl.

I remember when Brett Farb started 8 and 3 with them, right? They did not... I don't think they made the playoffs that year. They started 8 and 3. They didn't make the playoffs. Yeah. So I'm not there. If you gave me a thousand bucks of funny money

and you put me in a sports book in Vegas or Jersey or New York, whatever, I would bet it's more likely the Jets don't make the playoffs and get to a Super Bowl this season? No, I think that they can make the playoffs. Look at that AFC. Look at that AFC. That is loaded. They're not as good as Kansas City. They're not as good as Cincinnati at the very top. But the extra

team that they have and Buffalo, I'm telling you, there's cracks in the arm of the way that they're playing the playoffs. There are cracks. But Buffalo, I don't think those cracks will pop up until later in the year. I'm not sure. I don't feel the same way about Buffalo. I thought they were on the verge. Ben, I just

don't have that. Last year, was weird. If you remember, they opened the season, and I think they scored 73 points in the first two games. They destroyed the Rams before that they, the Rams fell apart, right, in the opener. So everybody was like, my God, the defending

champs got throttled. Then the next week they throttled somebody else. They had like 73 points. They looked unstoppable, and then the middle of the season came. They weren't the same. And then they went out with the whimper in the playoffs. I'm off, I'm off Buffalo. I love Buffalo wings, but

I'm not loving Buffalo Bills. I don't love the bills, but the bills are going to be fine during the regular season. And at some point, there'll be a moment with Stefan Diggs. Mary had the hissy fit in the playoffs against Cincinnati, the meltdown and the whole thing. And he'll be the scapegoat. He'll be the one that's the outcast in Buffalo and all that. But as far as, like, you can see certain scenarios play out. You know, in my head, you have the cartoon bubble over my head where you look at Miami,

and I hope to see Miami's going to open up with the Chargers, actually. I might actually go to that game. We'll see. But you look at the dolphins, and they're loaded. They have a legit defensive coordinator. Vic Fangio, one of the great defensive minds in the NFL, allegedly. And he's got some good players and all that. So the dolphins should be wonderful this year.

But Tua, is he going to play all season? And is he going to be there at the end of the season? And that is a legitimate concern. But I look at the Jets. and Aaron Rogers at his age, and he's been hurt in Green Bay. He missed some time. He didn't play in the last couple years. The last three years of his time in Green Bay, there were some games he missed here and there.

They also won two MVP's, and I think he's going to be healthy. I know you're going to poo-poo his thumb. But, Ben, you can't tie your shoes without your thumb. You know what I mean? You could. You could. You could. You need your thumb.

You could. This is what separates us from animals, is the thumb. The thumb's the key. But if you use your shoes. these two fingers like scissors and then you could probably it would not be a tight shoelace tie but you could

I was a boy scout I was a Cub Scout and you could tie it would not be firm like the thumb is obviously very important but you still have one thumb see he had one working thumb I both his thumbs were not injured no but the one on his throwing hand you know what when Siskel and Iber didn't have

their thumbs their shows went down I'm just saying Cisco and I like that I was a big fan Back in the day, I was a sport. Here we go. We actually have some news here. Well, we got breaking news. Well, not breaking news, but Joe Burrow, we are told, back today.

Bengals practicing today. Joe Burrow back at practice. He got a contract, no contract. No contract. And he was wearing, I love the reporting on this. Joe Burrow in helmet and shoulder pads. So, that's, now it's serious. Well, if the football writers have to,

they're standing around for four hours. hours, man. They've got to say something. I hear you. I hear you. But helmet, think of a football player going to practice in a helmet and shoulder pads. Oh, wow. Pretty impressive, right? That's also something that's changed with social media the last few years. I love

the pitch counts in practice how many throws a quarterback makes. Like you're putting numbers there. No, they're just something to do. Spring training's the same in baseball. They do a lot of stuff. I don't know about that. I don't know about that. Anyway. So you have the jet

It's not making the playoffs. Is that what you're saying? I want you on the record here on the herd. Yes. But making great sports radio. And shows like Colin Coward's going to have a field day when he comes back and talking about the Jets issues and all that. And we'll have a field day on our shows complaining.

It's going to be great content. And that's really, I'm in it for the content. That's what I'm about. I'm in it for the content. And so... It's always about the best story. People say it to me all the time. Oh, how come you hate this person?

How come you hate this? No, no, no. I'm looking for the best story. It's not personal. Right, it's never personal. We don't really know a lot of these people. I don't have any skin in the game, and that's what people don't understand. We don't have skin in the game.

That's why, you know, you want to hear from guys like us. A lot of guys who are former athletes are too close to it. They got friends. You're part of the fraternity. You want to break the bubble of trust. So they can't tell you what the real deal. They got to couch it. You know, how many times have you heard, don't be surprised if.

Hello? Well, what did you tell us? Did you tell us anything? Yeah. Don't be surprised if it means nothing. Yeah. Or they'll tell you something off the microphone and then on the air they'll tell you something, something totally different. So it becomes, you're going to use your decoder ring to figure out what's actually going on.

I get that decoder ring out and go for it. So is it a heavenly mistake? We'll get to that. and we will do it next. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. On Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the IHeart Radio app. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encouraged.

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and Rob Parker, in for Colin. He'll be back soon. He's enjoying himself. Let the man have some peace before the madness of the NFL season begins. You can hear me tonight. You're up late, can't sleep overnight. 2 a.m. My God, why is anyone on the radio at 2 a.m. Rob?

Because there were people, vampires up. Yes, I love the vampires. I'll be on late, and Rob will be on much earlier than me. But you're going to chill out for a few hours, right, Rob? Yeah, I got to do my podcast first. Inside the Parker. Make sure you subscribe, like, listen. I'll have to do my podcast, the fifth hour podcast.

See? I'll have to do that, yes. You've got to get the podcast in there, so yes, I'll do that today. You've done this before, Rob. little bit. And then, yeah, then the odd couple tonight, 7 to 10 p.m. Eastern, right here on Fox Sports Radio, Chris Bussar and I will mix it up for a couple hours, a couple three hours. Sparring, shadow boxing, each other is what you guys are doing. Speaking of shadow boxing, the angels who are getting destroyed. Now, I defend the angels for what they did at the trade deadline.

I love, they were three games out of a playoff spot. No, but they had no shot at winning bed. That's not true. They were three games out. You go for it. No, you don't go for. You go for. Yes, you go for it. You didn't have Mike Trout and you didn't have enough pitching. Trout was coming back. No, but you didn't have enough pitching. I was told all the geniuses in baseball told me Lucas G. Alito was the top pitcher available. Why was he available?

They got him. Why was he available from the White Sox? You of all people, you have-Rop Parker, of all people, thought the Angels should have packed it in? Yes. That's a terrible take. Yes. That's a bad take by you. No, listen, that is the modern day take.

You go for it. You did the fan take. And what you did, Ben, is you let your family... I'm not even an Angels fan. But I'm saying, like, that's what fans do. Oh, we're only three games out. Look at it. You're not...

A, you got to move the guy because you could rebuild the franchise with some picks and some other stuff. But you can't fall in love with the idea that the Angels were going to make a run. They weren't going to make a run with the pitching staff they had. I disagree. They weren't going to make a run with Trout coming back.

Here's my... Let me explain. All right. would have said the same thing about the Philadelphia Phillies last season. They got to the World Series. The Atlanta Braves also were like a under 500 team midway through the season. They got and they won the World Series in 2021. But they're not, those aren't teams that haven't done anything.

Mike Trout's been there for how many years better than they made one player. Well, he's living a great life in Laguna Beach, though. He's got a great home. That's fine. But they've been to the playoffs one time and you're telling me that you're putting all the chips in on the angels. Stop. Baseball, it's not football, it's not bad, we know that, it's baseball. That is a sport where for one month, I wish it wasn't this way because I like the Dodgers

and they always have the top team, but in baseball for one month, you can find a little bit of magic and you can end up getting to a World Series when you're not even the top team in that sport. And I love that the Angels went for it. I am sick and tired of the give-up attitude of today, and everyone loves their draft picks and minor league players. and a prospect is a suspect until proven otherwise. And so most of these prospects don't work out.

Anyway, the point of this, the Angels traded for Lucas Gialito, and they traded for Randall Grisich from the Rockies, and they are among the five players, and also one of the relief pitchers they got in that trade from the White Sox. I think there were a total of five players, three pitchers, including Lucas Geolito, who were put on waivers. They said, that's it.

No moss. They threw in the sponge, the Angels. I hate this. I know there's only a month ago. They're not making the play. I don't like it. I don't like it. This is what the Angels did.

This makes sense. This is the dumbest thing they could have done. You're out of it, right? Why waste at bats and innings on players who are not going? If you're not resigning Gialito and these guys, that makes no sense for them to continue to play for you. You're not resigning them, Ben. Go get the kids. rosters expand the 40-man

to 40-man roster September 1st. Bring those kids up. This is bipolar behavior. You have traded at the deadline to make a run. It didn't work out. Otani went snap, crackle pop, whatever. But now, with a month ago to save $7 million, I thought you're a major league team. You flush the toilet with $7 million in major league baseball.

It's not just the $7 million, but you'll get some young kids. Those guys can't play. I've seen them for 20 years they can't play. Those same players have been to minor leagues for 20 years. They weren't even born yet, but they can't play. I've seen it, yes. Instead, we're going to waste their bats and pitching innings on guys who are not going to be here next year. The Angels did the right thing finally in the about time they got smart.

Lucas Shealito has gone out and been a gas can't. I get it. But he's a SoCal guy. Why would you not, you need pitching? Why would you? He's been pretty good. Not good with the Angels. You're not bringing back.

You just said it. He's been a gas can. Yeah, but it's a small sample size. No, it's not. It is. It's only a few starts with the angels. They made a highlight reel about Gialito and it's entitled Burning Inferno. I mean, that's what it is.

I mean, let's just be honest. No, he's been bad. He's been terrible. You don't just put a guy out there based on his history? You want them to go back and get Cindergarde as well? Is that what you want? Chuck Finley. They need Chuck Finley back.

You get my point. John Lackey. You can't live in the past. They won when they had John Lackey. I remember pitching against the Yankees in 2009, too. Pretty good, yeah. And then he went to eat fried chicken and beer with the Red Sox. Right.

He was in the clubhouse, right, and all that. Yeah, but who hasn't done that, right, Rob? I mean, my God. Yeah, that got Frankona fire damn boss. Yeah, yeah. He had success in Cleveland. Got the World Series with the old Indians back in the day. But I don't like, and here's my, I have a,

I have a theory. I have a conspiracy theory. And there have been some other players that have also been put on waivers. Not just, we're picking on the Angels, because Artie Muriel loves when we pick on the angels. But they got rid of the non-waiver or the waiver trade debt. Remember in years past, a couple years of they got rid of this where you could still trade players after the trade deadline. It had to clear waivers. So is this a effort to try to get that back to say, hey, wait a minute.

Why don't we, you know, because we're just going to release players. Why don't we change it to the way it was? And so then Lucas Gioito could go on trade waivers and then the Angels could have gotten something for him. How about that? Yeah, I understand that. I just don't have an issue with a team going nowhere deciding not to just hold on to people. What if you have tickets to the Angels? Nobody went to go see him.

There's people that love it. They live in a bubble in Orange County. They love the Angels. No matter they stink. No, they still go. I mean, you want to. I'm going to a Padres game this Saturday. Saturday. You know what I mean?

Well, good food at the ballpark there in San Diego. Great ballpark. Great weather. Great, is that? Wonderful. Wonderful. Now, when I worked in San Diego, they played at Qualcomm Jack Murphy, which was not. You know, it's a little hot out there. Well, also, that was like a football stadium, right? Yeah, well, it was. Yeah.

And you know who Jack Murphy was, right? Was he a sports? Sports writer? Sports writer, yeah. Can you remember a stadium being named after a sports writer? Just think about that, Ben. Where we've got from Jack Murphy Stadium and even Shea Stadium in New York. Bill Shea was a guy who helped the Mets get in a, you know, New York getting an expansion national league team after. Well, now they would name it if the sports writer happened to own Google.

Right. That would be the only way. The stadium after him. But yeah, when I worked in San Diego, the podre, they had a fire sale years ago. And I would go to Padre games and I would buy the cheapest ticket. I go to those, you know, they call them back in those days, it's not politically correct, the businessman special. I remember that. And I'd go like Thursday afternoon and I'd buy the cheapest ticket.

And by the second inning, I was sitting behind either the visiting or the home dugout. I chose which one I wanted to sit. It was great. I loved it. There was no one there. Great park now. Oh, it's amazing. And they were selling out, I don't know if they did that streak stop, but they were selling out that park every night.

It's been a disappointing year. Padre fever has gone down quite a bit. Just a little bit. Just a wee bit. It has gone down for the Pod Squad. But the ballpark, I hope they don't, like every other city after 20 years, say we have to get a new ballpark. That ballpark is beautiful. be there a hundred years.

Long after we're gone. In Atlanta, they got two brand new stadiums. I know. Every 20 years. Every 20 years. Yeah. Aren't the Milwaukee Brewers kind of futsing around about getting a new stadium? But they're indoor stadium where they are.

And Kansas City, too, they're ready to move out of there. They're moving downtown. They want to move downtown. Yeah. Maybe by then they'll actually put a competitive team on the field again. It was only 2015. They won the World Series. Let's not act like it was 40 years ago.

Before my time. 2015, man. I was a young pup in 2015. I mean, not now. Anyway, let's get you caught up on all the news with the music man. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news.

All right, gentlemen, we do have some baseball coming your way, but we're going to turn our attention to the NFL for a bit. The Chiefs trying to become back-to-back Super Bowl champs, the first team to do that. Good luck. Patriots in the early 2000s. They're going to do it, Rob Parker's not buying it. I'm not buying it.

No. No. He's the new Brady. He's the new Brady balls. You know they just won by three, right, when they beat Cincinnati? Still counts the same. They still give you the same trophy. Still let him move on and play for that Super Bowl, Rob.

Well, look, in order to do that, maybe this is why Rob's not a buyer. They're probably going to need their star defensive tackle. Chris Jones, who continues to hold out for a new contract. Kansas City responded placing Jones on the reserve slash did not reportless NFL network reporting. No new movement on that said contract. I thought that. when Mahomes signed that ridiculously terrible contract, that that

was going to allow them to pay players and hold on and have a nucleus to win Super Bowl. Isn't that what they told everybody? Mahomes, what a great guy he's doing like Brady. He's taking less. He gave you a team-friendly contract.

And guess what? Some of their star players aren't getting paid. That's why it's fraudulent. It's a far, stopping. But for Chris Jones, He's got a contract. This is football malpractice. No one day?

He's been fine. Two million dollars. Every game he misses is over a million. That's malfeasance. He wants to get what he's worth. If I got paid two million, I would think I've won the lottery. My God, I would sell out of a party. I'd invite you to the party with taking balloons.

You can't base what his salary earning potential is compared to you. And the average show. That's what people say all the time. Oh, I would take. a million dollars? Of course you would. But he's not going to get that money back, though. That's what I'm saying, Rob. You can't retract the fines anymore

in the NFL. And he made a fatal mistake. He said on social media, Chris Jones, that a fan asked him how long he was going to sit out or something like that, I forget. But he said, like week eight. Like, he's prepared to lose over $8 million, like $9 million by sitting out the

week. So if you're the Chiefs and you want to play hardball, just wait. He'll be fresh as a, you possibly be around week nine and then you're going to be in the playoff race anyway. Well, maybe there are only three and five after week eight and they need them. Well, that's what he's betting on, right? He's betting on.

They're going to stand. Maybe? And your lions, who you hate are going to put up 30 points against the lions? Yeah, yeah, I don't know about that. My friend, people in Detroit might disagree with that. You know what? Rob, if you don't hate the lions, I'd love to see what you say about people you don't like. All I know is best bet for the opener.

Take the cheese. I'm going the other way. I'm going the other way. I'm taking the line. Wings in a die. There you go, we'll do it. You still owe me from that Brooklyn Nets bet we made a couple years ago. Double or nothing. Double or nothing. We're doing. Double or nothing. All right. We'll keep it in the NFL here.

Trey Lance, now a member of the Cowboys. We know this. But speaking for the first time since the trade from San Francisco, he said this about his time with the 49ers. quote, it's not how I expected it to go. It's not how I think a lot of people expected it to go, but I believe everything happens for a reason. I think I'm here for a reason. Regardless of what this is, I'm just here trying to find a way to help the team.

Did he get that off sportscloschay.com? A lot of the end of that there. I feel like that was off sportscloschay.com. But no, listen, Trey Lance, what are you going to say? He didn't play much when he played. It seemed like he was overmatched. Clearly the 49ers thought he needed a lifeguard because he was drowning out there when he was playing and they gave up on him.

And they'd rather have possibly Sam Darnold end up starting games if Brock Purdy gets hurt. Be careful, Ben. Careful what you say about Sam Darnold on the herd. I know. I know. I got to protect. I got to protect. But, yeah, I, the Trey Lance thing is a cautionary tale.

But it's not going to stop teams in the future. Trading multiple jobs. I don't have a problem. I'm not a draft pick guy. I'm like the Rams, F them picks. But if you're going to trade up to get a guy, you've got to be really sure you're getting somebody that can play more than five games.

What do I know? You've got to give them an opportunity to play more than that. He was sputtering, though. But it tells you that they didn't do their due diligence, and those guys in the front office, I hope this blows up in their face, to be honest. And then the 49ers, those guys will have to answer for it because there's such a franchise back

that you gave up three first round picks. Well, it hasn't, though. That's the thing. No, I'm just saying, not yet. Not yet. They're fine. We'll see about Brock. These are the new glory days for the 49ers.

We talked to a guy from football focus who says the Brock Purdy mystique and all the things that people are saying. If he really do a deeper dive and look into that, his ability of what is not as grossy as people think it is. I've seen some of that. The advanced, the nerds on there on social media are like, well, look at this past could have been intercepted and all that. I mean, you can do that with pretty much everybody if you want. And it's a fun game. I do recommend that because even the greats, like Tom Brady, your guy, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning. You mean the Lote?

The luckiest of all time? We already know that. Yes. You can work for the Raiders, Rob, and Tom can be your boss if you go work for the, no? All right. We'll wrap up with this. Going back to Major League Baseball, Yankees obviously having quite a disappointing season. Their outfield are Harrison Bader, not having a great season and unfortunate for him.

Things going from bad to worse. He was placed on waivers, and here's him describing how he found out about that prior to yesterday's game. I was in the lunchroom and saw it on CSPN. I guess it popped up something all over there, so that's how I found out. What was your reaction when you saw that news? Like, what does waivers mean? What I would have done is I would have had a second helping of lunch. You know, he said he was in the lunchroom.

Eat up and then pack your bags and leave. That's all. I mean, what else is there to do? That's a tough way to be let go. Well, here's the thing, though. Like, I've been, you know, listening. Ben, how did they let you go? They called us into a big meeting, and they said, get out of here.

Oh, it was a big meeting. Everybody got whacked? We all got. I was part of a mass execution for people. Yeah, but I've been fired a couple other times as well. To me, and having been let go, there's no good way to get the news. Like, we hear athletes. I found out on Twitter.

This guy found out on television. Is there a good way to find out, I? You know what? I'm always, I'm one of these guys. I don't know if there's a good way, but there's definitely a bad way. Well, your name's on TV, though. Everyone wants to be on TV. Come on TV.

Your name is on TV. How does he not know what waivers are, by the way? I know what waivers are, right? When we got let go in Detroit on the radio, me and my partner, Mark Wilson, we're doing a show Parker and the man, right? So they called us. They were asking, they said, can you guys come in early today? So I said to Mark, I said we're getting fired today.

We had a show from 7 to 11. Yeah. There's no reason to come in early under any circumstance. This was so, I told him, I said, we're going to get fired. He said, what are you talking about? Why would we have to come in early? And guess what? The night I got let go, the last time I got let go, there was a story that broke on the New York Post that said the company was going to lay off thousands of employees.

About 10 minutes later, I get an email. I never get emails from anyone in management. Middle of the night, I get an email. There's a mandatory meeting at 2 o'clock tomorrow. I was all about, I said, that's it. It's all done. This is it. Goodbye, everybody.

Turn out the lights. The party's over. And sure enough, the next day, I was giving my pink slip and all that. So, yeah, I mean, there's other times I've been like, I mean, something's great. The one time that upset me, though, Rob, one of the other jobs I got to go from, they had decided to fire me on a Monday. They cut the severance check on a Tuesday, but they made me work the rest of the week. And so I was like, why not, you know, I mean, why would they have you work? They told me on Friday after my shift, they said, you're out of here.

I said, and I looked at the date on the check, and it was cut on a Tuesday. Wow. It's not right, man. That's not right at all. It is the herd calling away. Ben Mallor, Rob Parker, we roll on, and we are about to save you money. You might say, I can't travel. I can't afford to travel.

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Nope, we grind to the very last segment. It's time for best for last. And Rob, I have known you for a number of years now. Yes. I always tell people, they ask me about Rob Parker. The thing I bring up first, not the great baseball writer, not the amazing pundit and hot take guy. No, I bring up the travel advice, because I am so jealous of you, Rob. You are living the life that I hope to live, and I've been unable to live it,

of my wife and she does not allow me to do this. But you know every Labor Day weekend, a great time to get out. You know every little, I don't know, cheat code's the right way to describe it. You know every little hack to save money and travel all over, you've traveled all over the world doing this. Yes. You know what? All seven continents. Ben, unbelievable.

Nice. I mean, you know, Antarctica. Can you imagine a kid from Jamaica, Queens, making it to Antarctica? That was probably the most surreal when that. boat got close and we got into these little you know floating what they call a rafts kind of things and then got on land and I'm standing there

penguins and sea lions and all that did they look at you like what are you you know like but you know what's crazy is that they didn't run away humans here no they didn't run away because they've never been hunted so they're not afraid you know what I mean like the animals are just there but I do travel a lot I'm always

I got like my schedule coming up I told you I'm always on the road. I live for you because I, you know, we follow each other on social media. One day you're in Costa Rica. The next day you're in Connecticut or whatever. All right. So here we go.

I'm going to try to save you some money. Okay. Because this is how I do it. You know, I don't have the big Colin Cowherd money. I got, you know, Rob Parker. Exactly. You should write a book on this. But you're giving this away for free.

This would cost thousands of dollars if you were to pay for this. No doubt about it. All right. All right. Always. Anything you can cut corners, you know, you go to airport. It's expensive to eat out, right? Very expensive.

So the first key is you always want, make sure you bring your own tea bags, okay? Okay. What if you don't drink tea, though, right? Well, you got to be a tea drink. I understand. My whole point is, I'm not paying $4 or $5 for a cup of hot water. I hear you. I could get 100 tea bags for $3.99.

So will they give you a cup of hot water if you just ask? Most places will give you a free cup of hot water. Okay. So you got the tea taken care of right there. I just saved you $5, $4 or $5. Right? All right. Keep track of it.

So $5. I'm saving you that. All right. Okay. What's next? All right. You know, if you got to bring in a lot of clothes on your trip and they're going to charge you to bring your bag on the flight.

So it might be like $45, $50, $60. Yeah. So what you do is you wear some extra things that you might. So I might wear a couple of shirts underneath. A couple of pants. I got on three pair underwear. I'm just saying. Rob, you've been on television and radio for like 30-something years or longer than that.

And imagine somebody's sitting next to Rob Park. I'm sitting next to a big TV guy, radio guy, and the plane, and you've got like seven layers of clothes. I got clothes on. I got ready to go in the winter in Boston or something. And as soon as I get on, I could take a couple off and put them up or whatever. Make sure you have a trash bag. Sometimes I'll have like, you know, the bags you get groceries in. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

The usable bags. So once you get on, you can take some stuff off. You don't want to be hot. Okay, there's another way of saving money. So you don't bring a suitcase? There's no... No, no, no, because I'm not paying. Here's the other thing, too.

So that's $50, you say. So for up to $55 now you're saying. And then you don't want to. The other thing is you leave clothes behind. You never want to bring dirty clothes back. Can't you just wash them though? No, no, no. Because I don't want to, like, you know,

you might want to buy some extra stuff or other things. So I always leave clothes behind. What I'll do, never underwear and underclothes for people. That's gross. but I'll wear like if I went on a trip and I have three golf shirts. I'll leave two behind, leave a couple pair of pants, leave some other stuff, I'll write a note for the maid or whoever cleans the room, right, I don't know what they call them today. I want to be politically correct.

I don't know what they call. Leave a note and it'll say, please, keep these things or donate them. Now, is that your tip to the person cleaning the room? That is your tip. No, I'm not living any money. Shirts and pants. They might have a six. Game used by Rob Parker

They might have a 6'4 kid and needs a couple pair of pants And a golf shirt or whatever You never leave shoes though right You can't leave your shoe guy You can't leave any Nike You're a Jordan's around you I had a pair of Nike's that I left in Miami

No way Because I had a pair of Jordans As well when I went to Costa Rica I left the Jordans in Miami Took the Nikes to Costa Rica I would have left them in Costa Rica But I didn't have any shoes to wear back From Costa Rica

so I had to wear them back, but I left him in Miami. Okay. All right. So you're up to $55. Plus, no, I've just saved another because I'm not having another bag. Oh, that's right. So, okay. That's another $50.

Okay, so $105. Okay, here we go. Deceit. You don't want to pay for extra. You need extra leg room. I do. That's a big problem I have. I always get the emergency exit row.

They charge extra for that, though. But what you do is you wait until the very last minute to check in. You know why? Why is that? Nobody wants to pay extra for the best. seats. So when the other seats fill up, they have to give you the exit road. Those are the only seats that are left. So you wait to the very last second and all the other middle seats fill up. And nobody wants to pay, Ben, so the butts left? I can't, in my wife, she's like so paranoid

when we travel, she's like right away when the thing pops up on your phone to check in, she immediately checks in. And I got to tell you, the Rob Parker way, you wait to the very end. Does that make sense? I like it. Totally makes sense. Yeah, it does. Because they have to give me a seat. and they have to, and the only thing that's available, exit rolls because most people don't want to pay the extra fee. Yeah. And they nickel. I was in Boston a couple weeks ago, they nickel and dime you on everything.

On everything. And when you travel too and you got friends or whatever and you're taking people, you know how you like to eat out lunch with a lot of people. So you always remember, always go to the restaurants with the two-for-one coupons. You don't have to tell your friend that you have a two-for-one. You get up, you go away from the table, you wave over the waitress, and you slider the two-for-one coupon. Okay.

And your friend, you know, they don't need to know. They don't need to know. No, it's the gesture. It doesn't matter. Do you care if I pay for the lunch or not? No. All you know is that you didn't pay for it and you had a free meal. Exactly.

Now, you don't want to be the person, though, when you say, like, you can only order the spaghetti because that's the two-for-one. You don't want to be that guy. I have been like, just get the spaghetti. You look like a spaghetti guy. Let me tell you. I don't put it like that. I go, it's the best thing on the menu.

Trust you. No, that's it. I get that New York salesmanship. My man. So there you go. I'm saving you money, Ben. Okay. That's it.

I love the fact that you show up to a city. Sometimes these cities you've never been to and you're like, oh, go buy a few t-shirts or underwear or whatever. I love that. Yes. Why would you pay money to bring underwear and t-shirts and then you're going to leave it behind? Leave it behind. Listen, and I don't, you know, we want to say the name of the airline, but you've got, you're in the right spirit when it comes to this kind of stuff. Yes.

100%. You're a good spirit about you when you're traveling around. and all that stuff. You know, I would go, but I don't like taking time off. That's the other problem. Like, I feel, I don't know, I feel guilty when I take time off. I shouldn't. I blame the station I worked at in San Diego.

Take time off when you own time. I know. I work all the time, but I take time off. Yeah. No doubt. I remember I had a boss, you said, Ben, you need work-life balance. I said, what is that? What the, by the way, I'll be back tonight at 2 a.m.

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