The Herd with Colin Cowherd - The Herd - Hour 3 - NFL draft

Episode Date: April 25, 2023

NBA playoff predictions for tonight Colin discusses the upcoming NFL draft   Guest: Gary PattersonSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. For 22 years, he built TCU into a power, a two-time national coach of the year, six-time conference championship, Gary Patterson, the former TCU football coach, who both Lincoln Riley and Steve Sarkesian wanted to join their staff last year, and he chose the Longhorns. It is great to have you here, coach. So there's a lot of things. One of the players in the draft that we've talked a lot about,

there's this now narrative. You can't draft a running back first round. and to me, if somebody's great, you draft them. You know, I watch Ezekiel Elliott at Ohio State. You can draft him. So Bejohn Robinson at Texas, you were there with the program. Interestingly, you also had Ladeney and Tomlinson, probably the best TCU player ever, and one of the great running backs ever.

Is there some Lidanean Tomlinson in Bejohn Robinson? Yeah, they're both. I tell you, number one, they're both great people. I think that's what they don't understand. And whatever city that they end up getting drafted to is going to be better just because what they're going to infuse into the city off the field. But, yeah, they're both jump cut. They both catch the ball. They both are students of the game.

You know, I still remember a story about LT where he would always try to beat, be the first person in the building at San Diego when he was a rookie. And he always wanted to wait until he was the last one to leave. He wanted to be able to prove that he was a worker. And Bejohn is the same way. He's always, he's always around, you know, and he's always given back, whether it's on the field. He was at the spring game. You know, so, yeah, both of them are great jump cut. They have this amazing ability to be able to see the holes and not the hole.

And so, yeah, I like both them a lot. They were great players. Yeah, and they both catch the ball, which is big. So a player that J-Mack and I have talked about is Max Duggan the quarterback. You had Andy Dalton. He's more athletic than Andy. I don't know if he's the pocket presence. When you look at Max, I mean, I watched Brock Purdy, who you know, Iowa State.

And so there's some comps there where they're smart guys. I think Max is probably a little better mover than Brock Purdy. What is he as a pro, do you think? Well, he's a winner. I think that's the same thing with Brock Purdy. He wasn't going to be flashy, but he was taught well. I think Max Duggan's best days were ahead of him. And if you listen to all the players that talk about him, they run through walls for him.

There's just that element to a Max Duggan. He's going to run on the four-fives. He can take off and beat you with his legs. He runs like a running back. And he's good enough arm? Yeah, he has a good enough arm. You know, they threw for a lot of yards, had a good enough player. You know, again, I think in the passing game, he's just going to keep getting better

and better because of, you know, what they did in high school. And then what we did early in his career running the football, you know, and he had to play, he had to play, you know, as a redshirt freshman, come in and play. had, you know, had the heart condition so he couldn't practice through the first year. And so he's kind of probably about a year behind when it comes to all that kind of stuff in his development. So I want to talk about Bryce Young because last year, Texas outplayed Alabama and Bryce did his magic late. So when you went up against Bryce Young and you helped Sark and you looked at film, what jumped off film? What made Bryce Young special?

Well, I think the big, he just makes great decisions. And he can beat you by himself. I think that's why you go through his career. You just watch him. You think you have him. We thought we had him. We thought we had him. And then in the final drive, he comes down.

He makes the corner miss. He sees the guy outside. And, you know, they get the first down. They kick the field, go and go. He's just a guy. And twice, I think, in that drive, he took off. He took off running, you know, where he got the first downs when he hadn't really done that the whole ball game. And so, yeah, he just beach in so many ways.

And he's definitely a student of the game. I think some of the, I've read about the tests he've taken up with the NFL. Oh, yeah, the S2 scores. I mean, this truly incredible, how smart the young man. I've heard coaches talk about that. So you saw Patrick Mahomes before the rest of the world was introduced to Patrick Mahomes. His dad was a major league baseball player, so good lineage there.

Could you have ever imagined, I mean, you were a defensive guy. You were in the Big 12, which is a wild spread-em-out conference. So everybody scores on everybody, no matter how good of a defensive coach you are. but with Mahomes, was there a moment for you in his college career where you turned a guy and said, oh my God, that kid's different. Well, yeah, his first ballgame was against us. He had to come in as a freshman. The starting quarterback got hurt there at TCU.

But if you watched him develop and he didn't know how well he ran, number one, and how he could add live all the different ways he throws the ball and goes about his business, you know, as a defensive coach, it's just so hard to prepare for somebody that's not going to do one thing twice. And I think that's, I think that's what he's doing at the NFL level now. He did it at the college level. And I think he's even doing it better at the NFL level than he did at the college level.

But Cliff did a great job coaching him there. And Andy Reed's done an unbelievable job with his group at Kansas City. You would have thought Kansas City, he would have had a down here, right? And he just took another step. So when, when you look at the state of Texas and football in California, and then Florida, all the regions are different.

I've always thought California is very good for receivers, quarterbacks. It's a progressive place. It's a thinking person's football. I think of Texas, it's a little tougher. High school football means more. Then you get to the south. And, you know, it's just between Florida, Georgia, Louisiana.

That's where a lot of the players are. When you recruited California, I guess my question being is, you can only win so many games. unless you're great at quarterback. Is quarterback play, it looks like to me it's getting better. The guys are smarter, earlier, better. You tell me in 22 years what you saw. Well, yeah, I think if I go back 20 years,

I thought California had the lead in that because the way they threw the ball on the West Coast, you know, they had seven-on-sevens. Texas was a running quarterback, you know, early in my career. Now the quarterbacks, now they have all the seven-on-sevents. They're developing quarterbacks really across the nation. Everybody's doing the same thing. I think the quarterback play in college football and going forward into the NFL,

I think finding the guy that can win, I think it's not just about, how can you transition from seven on seven to 11 on 11 and not see the rush and have that innate ability to throw the ball where nobody else can get it? I think is the ones you look, if you look at the quarterbacks that are playing right now that have played in the last five years, they, and then the ones coming up, I think they're all, they all have that unique ability. The transfer portal. I like it because I think it allows a Brian Kelly or a Lincoln Riley by the second year,

you're ready to compete with the big boys. It used to be even Nick Saban. It took like three full recruiting classes. But the transfer portal also, the downside to it is, you know, kids face a little adversity. I'm out of here. And I think there's something to be said that if you look at most great NFL players, they had obstacles. I mean, Tom Brady drops in the draft.

So did Joe Montana. So did Russell Wilson. So did Aaron Rogers. So did Dan Marino. Where are you on the transfer portal? Let's forget the NIL, because that's still the Wild Wild West. But in the transfer portal, do you like it? Are you concerned about it?

Where are you on it? Well, number one, I think every freshman, when you get to college, it's a lot harder. Every freshman has thought about transferring. But, you know, I think there's, like anything else, there's good transfers and there's guys that probably shouldn't have left because nobody talks about all the numbers that don't get those scholarships you'd like to have right but i would i would tell you this um it used to be a three-year turnaround for you know you developed now it's a one year i think i saw on a tv copy where chip kelly talked about it's a one year now you're put how do you put your pieces of your team together

in one year in the transfer portal who you go get somebody which usually used to be able to not do that right you had to recruit and then you were kind of and if you ever came into a situation to where uh your team wasn't good you know in the old days you know you had to wait for your freshman to grow up and maybe get a junior college guide. Now it's, uh, if you, if you've got the, if you've got the means, then, and you have, uh, you have done a good job evaluating. You can go find the players and they'll, and they'll come. So, uh, yeah, I think it's a whole different game now. Who is the best coach, the best, um, game coach? If I go back and say, you know, Gary, who was a, was arm wrestling? Who was a really clever chess player to go up against on a Saturday?

Well, there's been a lot of, through 40 years of college football, there's been a lot of them. But, you know, these new guys, Lincoln, all these two guys we just talked about. Lincoln was a handful? Yeah, if you look at what Lincoln, as far as, because they run, you know, one of the things that I had to do in defense, you had to get to where you played plays now, because these guys run so many plays, they run so many plays. It's just not where you're running the Reed zone or you're, now they're running plays. So you have to be able to look at formations and be able to, so here's the plays they're going to run out of this,

and this is the brouss. So the substitution patterns, you're on the sideline. It's really big. It's really big knowing the personnel. And that's why you see someone of the offenses now when they're an 11 personnel, meaning they have a one tight end, one back system with three wideouts. They're either in a four wide out look because the tight end split out or he's on the line of scrimmage or he's back in the back field as a two back.

And so now defenses have to change so that you actually have to call defenses like offenses. So when they're in that 10 personnel, here's the front you want, here's the coverages you want when they're in the tight ends on. Here's the plays they run because they're going to run stretch. You're going to run stretches to the tight end so they can pull their alignment. And then when the back's in the backfield, now you, when that tight end's in the backfield, you get that two-back running game, which in college you have. And I think you're starting to see that progress a little bit into the pro ranks where

that tight-in's coming around. But instead of blocking the end in a divide zone, he's now going up to the next level for the quarterback. So, yeah, the game is really changing. It's changing not just by every two or three years. it's changing every year. And there's just a lot of good coaches now. And there's even young coaches that are coming up that have a lot of great ideas.

So Caleb Williams, I talked to an exec during last season. And he said Caleb Williams would be the number one pick this year. So he comes up for USC, you know Lincoln. He's got a little Mahomes to him where there's different arm angles. He's only six feet one, but he's thick. He's a thicker kid than like a Bryce Young. I don't know if you've seen tape, obviously. Oklahoma.

He's a how much, I always think when I watch Caleb, how much do you coach him, Gary? And then how much do you let him just do what he does? Well, I think probably Lincoln can answer that better. But those guys, a lot of, you coach the play, but you don't coach the other part. Now, I did coach against me. Actually, he came in against Texas two years ago, and we were the next ballgame at TCU. And the same thing had happened against Texas where we had the corner coming off the edge and quarterback from Alabama, he makes a miss, right?

And we had the same thing. We had the corner coming off the edge against Caleb, and we had him dead to the right, and he makes him miss, and he can't tackle him. So he's got what I call escapability. They all have escapability. And when you have a quarterback like that, that's that plus one, whether it's scrambling or in the quarterback re-option game, that makes it really hard on coaches because defensive coaches can play

all this different coverage stuff. when you have just a true dropback guy that we're not worried about running. But that guy will take off when you've got everybody chasing wide receivers and doing them he's going to run for 40 yards. It makes it awfully difficult because you've got to change up

and you know the chances and the risk you're taking when you play certain coverages because that quarterback's going to make you pay if they don't keep him corralled. And that's why you also see not as many sacks sometimes against those running guys because instead of trying to beat you and come off the edge and beat the tackle,

They have to push the pocket. Right. And then you're not, you're getting a coverage sack, but you're not getting a rum bium sack. And so all those things play a part in to how you play the game. Sark, you go there and you add a dimension for his staff. What is something, I think Sark's a great recruiter. I think he's sometimes his teams are a bit loose, but he plays with energy. He takes in-game risks, which I like.

What did you try to add to Texas and Sark last year? Well, for me, I went down, kind of takes stage. number one, I went back and tried to learn, you know, after 25 years of being at TCU. And so I tried to help them defensively kind of put things together. Pete did a great job, great staff, and really tried to give chemistry to the building. You know, they'd only been there one year, and they kind of came in during COVID. And so for me, it was about helping the analysts and all the GAs and everybody in the back of the room evaluate. Structurally.

Recruit and just wherever it kind of be a glue. try to be wherever they need of me. I love the staff. I love Sark. Sark was great to me, and I love the players. I think the one thing people understand is how good a kids, Texas has on their roster as far as people. I would like a Bijon Robinson, a Roshan.

There's just a lot of those guys there. And I was really happy. It was really hard for me to step back and not go back this season in the, you know, in the position that I was a year ago. But, yeah, but I was glad I did it. The fans and everybody treated me great. RG3 did the spring game on TV for Texas. He said he thinks they can compete for the title.

Can they? Do you believe they have the personnel? Well, I think with the freshman coming in, I think the biggest thing competing for a title is going to have to be is depth. You know, I think if they can stay healthy, I think that Alabama game is going to be a big game just because of perception. Yes. Playing well, either winning or playing them close.

Because I watched Alabama later in the year play against Kansas State, which we played in the bowl game. So I think that's really important, but I think that they have an opportunity because they started three freshman offensive alignment last year. All those grow up. They've added some really good skill players. They lost some running backs, but they've got some good young running backs. And I think their wide receiver core in the quarterback. It's still like anything else.

It comes down to Evers, the quarterback making a difference at Texas. Because if you're going to win a national championship, it's really going to come down to the quarterback play and playing good defense. And we got better on defense last year, and I think they'll play the same or better this year. Gary Patterson, great seeing you 22 years here at Fox. Appreciate you stopped by, Coach. Well, thank you. It was a pleasure being here.

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the herd line news. Start in Vegas with Jimmy Garoppolo taking over for Derek Carr as a starting QB. Raiders have the seventh pick in the draft this week, and GM Dave Ziegler says Vegas is keeping the option of drafting another quarterback on the table. I think that any time you can find a young player at that position that's going to have an impact on your team, you have to keep an open mind of that. Of course, we're excited to have Jimmy, and having Jimmy does supply us with a very high quality starting player at the position. And so we feel comfortable with that. But I think to close

that door, you know, and just say that that's not something you would do because of X, Y, and Z, that's not the business that we're. I think we're open to having competition at the quarterback position and every other position on the roster. I think that we're never going to close the door on that. Yeah, I think they have to draft the quarterback because they lost Stedham to the Broncos in Garoppolo's health. So, I mean, to me, that's like, of course they're going to draft a quarterback fourth, fifth round. Well, they're asking about the, his seventh overall pick. Now, you know we'd like to put breadcrumbs together on this show.

Peter King earlier today said what? C.J. Stroud, not a lock. He goes in the top seven. Raiders are the cutoff for seven. Perhaps Josh McDaniels, a New England guy historically. Him and Peter King, do they have a connection? Did McDaniels say we're out on Stroud at seven? We don't want him.

And maybe the Stroud sweepstakes started eight with the Falcons, who, you know, Desmond Ritter, you like to bang on him, but I don't know where the Falcons are with him. feels a little rich at seven for a quarterback for the Raiders. Have you looked at their defensive depth chart? I mean, I'm combing through depth charts. I know you're not. No, I am.

They need corners. We're secondary in that division by a considerable amount. Yeah, and a division now with Sean Peyton, Andy Reed, Mahomes, Herbert. So to me, I think they're going to have to reach, if Gonzalez goes before their pick, the Oregon corner, Christian Gonzalez, because that's who I think they want. then they may have to reach on Witherspoon, the Illinois corner. The Lions really like Witherspoon a lot at 6.

There's a lot of chatter connecting those two. But I... Witherspoon and Gonzales, I know you're a West Coast guy and you like Gonzalez. Seattle and Detroit need an interior defensive lineman. And so to me, if Jalen Carter's available, because he drops because of his off-field stuff, I think Detroit has to take him. He's really, they got Hutchison, they got corners, in free agency, they need a

bull rush. They have no interior pass rush at all. So I feel like there are just certain teams that Christian Gonzalez is going to be so good, so early, and the Raiders are so bad at Corner that feels like, my

question with the Raiders is if Gonzalez goes before that, do you trade down? Because I don't know if the next corner is close to him. I think there's one... Well, the Kid Witherspoon from Illinois. He's got a really good year, mate. It's tough. Didn't he have a good combine or something? Yeah.

And Gonzalez's measurements are kind of what Seattle likes with the big, rangy cornerbacks. He's guys athletic. I don't know. I don't see quarterback at 7 for the Raiders. All right. Next up, Niners. Oh, boy. John Lynch, Tray Lance.

This is, at this point, we can call it a disaster, okay? Trading up for him two years. He has four starts. I know. The seventh rounder out plays him. Now you sign Sam Darnold. It's not great. Anyways, Lynch was asked if he thought about, forget Tray Lance.

making a run at Lamar Jackson. Here's what he said. You know, you look into everything, and we seem to be linked to each and everything. I can tell you, I think it's how convicted we are on Brock on this current group of guys that, you know, why you're not doing your job if you don't look into things. A lot of those things, I think you're limited

by the way our roster set up, you know? And the other thing is, you know, what's your motivation? And while those players, there's more than just Lamar. There's tremendous players, MVP-type players. We really like our guys. And we like where we're at. I think they do like where they're. I think they're going to move off Treylands before the season.

I think they're going to play him as much as they can in the preseason if he's ready. All right. I tell you this. Just close your eyes for a second. Okay. Your two quarterbacks this season are Sam Darnold and Brock Purdy. What's your season? ceiling.

NFC championship. Oh my gosh. Come on. No way! That roster is stacked. NFC championship with Sam Darnold, what is this, his third team? I know he's a USC guy you're going to defend him, but... Brock Pry had a seven-game sample size where he looked competent, and I like

Brock Purdy. I can see clearly, despite the USC connection. If Darnold is what he is, he is a more experienced version of Trey Lance. He's a stocky, athletic kid with some aesthetic issues and complete percentage issues, but you could win a game with him. Okay. Brock Purdy's their future for the next two years. Brock Purdy doesn't even have the right to renegotiate.

Imagine a year ago this time, you were saying Brock Purdy is their future. He ended up going seventh round last pick in the draft. Well, it's crazy. This NFL league is wild. Tony Romo, undrafted. Kurt Warner undrafted. Austin Reeves in the NBA undrafted. Yeah.

I mean, God, the Miami Heat got four undrafted guy, two undrafted starters. Yeah, that's a great point. All right. We'll wrap up with this. Alan Robinson, his season with the Rams was just awful, and he had the foot injury. He never came close to the production. L.A. had wanted to get out of him. Now he's with the Steelers.

And at his introductory press conference, you're never going to believe who Alan Robinson quoted. I think that, you know, actually, Patrick Beverly, you know, said it best. You know, I mean, if you're, you know, a fork, you know, I mean, you don't want to be used as a spoon majority of the time. You know, I think that makes it just tough, you know, on. on everybody, you know, but again, I'm, I'm very grateful for the opportunity that I had, you know, going to L.A., you know, being able to play with Cooper Cup and some of those guys, you know, I learned a lot from their system. I feel like for myself, you know, I have a lot of football left in me.

I thought last year for the time that I was playing in those 10 games, you know, I felt very good about some of the things that I did. I'm not going to bash Alan Robinson. I wish him luck. Again, just look at the way he came into the press conference. Hat pulled kind of low, which is like kind of... hiding. He's wearing like a black sweatshirt, which is fine, whatever.

Jalen Hertz shows up in his... Well, Jalen Hertz is a quarterback. So what? Look the part, Alan Robinson. Jalen Hurts shows up in a green suit looking very regal like he's a CEO and he sits down and answers questions. This guy, Alan Robinson quotes Patrick Beverly, the great

philosophical thinker of our time. All I say with this with Alan Robinson, I thought it was a good move and then he got to L.A. and couldn't separate from anybody. But then he's saying if you're a fork, you don't want to be used as a spoon. Like, listen, I'm rooting for Alan Robinson. I'm not salty that he did not deliver for me as a fantasy football owner last year.

That's what you sound salty about. The problem is I like the Steelers this season. I will be having some futures tickets on the Steelers. I like them. They didn't give up anything for him? They gave up like a seventh round picker. Basically, the Rams paid them to take Alan Robinson. You know?

That's what they did. It said, you remember that scene in Moneyball where Brad Pitt's talking to David Justice and he's like, you guys are paying my salary. And Brad Pitt's like, now the Yankees paid us to take you off their hands. And David Justice was like, oh, okay, you're right. Like, Alan Robinson needs to kind of wake up here. I don't know. I'm being too harsh.

I don't want to be a critical guy. It's a good day. The Jet's got Aaron Rogers. It's a white blue sky day. It is a nice sky. You should be in the best mood in six months. I didn't really get to work out this morning. I'm tired.

You're tired. We lost that championship game and still eating away at me. You were 0 for four on threes. Dude, we opened the game. You hit two of those you would have won. We opened the game one for 15, Colin. Oh my. Now, they only open like three for 15.

That's because you're a bunch of old guys out of shape. They're younger than us. Out of shape, excuse me? You think I'm out of shape? How about me and you do a decathlon? Tennis, ping pong, a sprint, a mile. I have a family. Dogs, ducks.

I don't have time for this. You want to do a buoy swim this summer? I couldn't do a buoy swim. You'll take me in the... Jay Mack with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Herd Lie News.

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A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me, Cliver Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media.

Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard,

but celebrated. One week I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment, and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast, it's a space for honest conversations,

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Follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. Hey, this is Robert from the Stuff to Blow Your Mind podcast. Joe and I are both lifelong Star Wars fan, so we're celebrating May the 4th with a brand new week of fun, thought-provoking Star Wars-related episodes. Join us as we tackle science and culture topics from a galaxy far, far away, such as the biology of taun tons and wampas on the ice planet hot,

or the practicality and corporate business sense of the Sith rule of two. Listen to stuff to blow your mind, on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Big George Foreman, movie starts Thursday. Theaters only get your tickets rated at PG-13. Big George Foreman. So it's time for another edition of the Magic 8 Ball, where the 8 ball gives us great answers for some of the draft questions that will be upon us here on Thursday.

It's already Tuesday, J-Mack. We get the Warriors Kings on Wednesday night. Sun's Clippers tonight. Who do you like, by the way? Man, I haven't even looked at the lines. Kauai's out. Paul George's out. Sons win. They go, I think back home, they win.

I don't know that there's any value. But you know what I would do? The three big favorites tonight, I would probably just money line parlay them. You're not getting a great number, but they're going to win. All right. Here we go. Remember, ready for the magic eight ball? I'm always ready.

You ask the question. Oh, right. Okay. Will the Panthers draft Bryce Young with the first overall pick? Okay. Yeah, without a doubt, he already canceled his remaining pre-draft visit. It's heavy favorite on Fox Bet. No question there.

Without a doubt, Bryce Young, number one. He's refined. He's ready to play. It's a bad division. He can win games. As Gary Patterson just said, he's different. He can beat you with his feet with his arm. He's agile, sees the field.

He goes number one. Like him, don't love him. Next up, will the Texans draft a QB with the second overall pick? Oh, the magic eight ball. Oh, very clearly says very doubtful. First of all, C.J. Stroud, same agent as Deshawn Watson, bit of a turnoff. We also have 12 picks total. They can take somebody in the third or fourth round.

There's no reason to take a big swing early. They gotta get better. And I think Domingo Ryans wants to get better on the defense quickly. Get cheap and expensive and more athletic on the defense, then get the quarterback in next year's draft. All right, Magic 8 ball. Will Anthony Richardson be the second quarterback taken in the draft? My sources say no. Accuracy concerns.

He started one year and he was six and seven. I mean, the truth of there's Raw and then there's Anthony Richardson Raw. I just haven't seen enough. And, you know, he could throw the ball. Even at the Combine, there were questions about accuracy. So, I don't know. You're doing backflips at the combine? What do you have against backflips?

When's the last time you watched the football game and said, oh, I love that backflip Joe Burrow did? Usually on touchdown celebration. It's no gritty, but they all can be. Will the top five pick be traded, Magic 8 Ball? Uh, don't count on it. Remember, the last few teams that have taken, Niners moved up, didn't work, Bears did for Trubisky, Jets did for Darnold.

A lot of the teams moving up in recent years. Egg on their face. Doesn't look good. I don't think people are moving up big. Now, this one's tough. There's a lot of chatter around this player right now. Will Will Anderson from Alabama be the first non-quarterback drafted? Most likely.

He's clean, no trouble off the field, very coachable. Defensive players have taken each of the first five picks last year. Remember, defensive linemen are still outside a quarterback. Anything harder than to find a great edge? The Bosa's, they're hard to find. And a lot of time, these edge rushers can come in. Kaleel Mack, Bosa brothers. They come in and they make an impact year one.

So I think Will's going. Interesting. 2012, he was amazing. 2022, not so much in recent weeks. It sounds like he made. be dropping a little. I don't know that I buy it, but it's out there. Will there be at least four quarterbacks selected in the top 10? Magic 8 ball. Outlook not so good. Listen, let's be honest. Only once in the common draft era. And that's in

2018, the Darnold Baker, Josh Rosen. Josh Allen year. So that fours a lot. And I also think, I mean, in that year, you had Allen was such a unicorn physically and everybody, you know, Baker, Hootspah, there was a lot of people. I think everybody, even with Bryce Young this year, there's reluctance on his size. I think all four of these top quarterbacks have something that concerns me. All right, let's go to running back.

Will Bejohn Robinson be picked in the within the top 20? Oh, most likely. He's clean. Got no issues. Ladani and Tomlinson's a comp. He created 104 mistackles last year, meaning he's really good.

Shifty. Shifty. He played Alabama. He can take the hits. There's nothing wrong. He can catch. He can run. He's a good kid.

Ladanyan Tomlinson's not a bad comp. Gary Patterson had Ladanian. There's just nothing this kid. As a GM told me, he's a clean prospect. He checks every single box. We're running out of time. There are no Jets questions. I know Jets fans are either.

Will Georgia have the most players drafted of all the schools? without a doubt. They're like Alabama four or five years ago. Fifteen Georgia players taken last year. And by the way, they're doing it at receiver. Where do you think Stetson Bennett gets picked? I like him more than Zach Wilson already.

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