The Herd with Colin Cowherd - The Herd - Hour - 3 - NFL week 7

Episode Date: October 23, 2023

Thoughts on the Steelers so far this season, the Brotherly Shove, the Dolphins offense and QB Brock Purdy.   Guest: Terry BradshawSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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in noon to 3 Eastern, 9 a.m. to noon Pacific. Find your local station for the herd at Fox SportsRadio.com or stream us live every day on the IHeart Radio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. All right, Terry Bradshaw, the Hall of Famer, three Emmys, co-host, NFL analyst. No, no, no, four Emmys. Oh, you got a new one.

Well, Fox NFL Sunday won an Emmy last year. It did. It's four. Yeah. Look, they don't even update me on this nonsense. Well, people upstairs. They gave it to you. You omitted it.

Oh, okay. Maybe I did. I get a little jealous. I get a little petty. Do you a little penny? Hey, let's start. Yeah. We'll get to Taylor Swift first, though.

I want to say this. We'll get there. Okay. Because you have a musical background. You know what you're doing. Right. So I watched Kenny Pickett yesterday, and there's a lot of young quarterbacks, and who knows if they're going to work.

But the one thing when I watch Kenny Pickett, the coaching staff is letting him throw it down the field. And I watch Green Bay, and they don't with Jordan Love. So I watched Kenny Pickett, and I'm sitting there texting a buddy, and I'm like, I don't know, I don't know. And all of a sudden, he let it rip. He plays. He plays. you see with Kenny. I love him. I said it on the air yesterday. I love him. I start with poise. Every quarterback that plays must be able to handle the fire from the pocket. He does that

extremely well. He threw a touchdown pass, say three weeks ago, four weeks ago. They lost a game, maybe, no, it was against the Ravens, I believe, that post route to Pitkins. And he was, he set up, he's going through his progressions, and then his progressions took him to the post route back to Pickens on the strong side. And he turns and he sees any pressures right here. He gets clobbered right in his face. Perfect strike, touchdown. He's got everything that I want in a quarterback.

Maybe not ideal size, okay? Yeah, he doesn't have a huge arm. They don't need a huge arm. You've got a huge brain. You see things faster. You go to the receivers quicker because, your brain's fast and you understand. So that's,

that's me, it's critical. A lot of people don't like him. Well, that's fine. But I'll take that sucker all day long. Hey, and here's the other thing. He's a selfless human being. Very.

He doesn't give a rat's ass about touchdown passes or anything else. All he cares about is winning. Yesterday, no touchdown. No, no touchdown. No, none whatsoever. But he still completed high percent of his passes. They won the football game. And you're right,

he's extremely accurate. And now that Johnson came back, Pitkins Johnson. That's a real receiving court. And how about their running game yesterday? Two backs I like. Two backs worn and then they got the kit from Alabama. You know what they do?

You know what you call that? What you talked about in the first part? And I've talked to GMs about this. And it's totally underrated. Kenny has physical courage. Yes. He will stand there to the last second. You played an era where if you didn't have it,

you were out of the league. we plan in near and now where there's a lot of stuff behind the line and bubble screens not all these kids want to get hit Kenny's willing to get hit and GMs love that well here's the thing nobody will let me correct you nobody playing quarterback wants to get hit because you have to understand in the pocket especially in the pocket not when you're moving out because you can see it but in the pocket we we have no defense Our eyes should be down the field and we should be reading the coverage. And we're hoping that by the time we get to the third read,

that that guy, our ball should be coming out of our hands, but two, three, two five, no, we don't want to go two eight. That's right. That's right. Two point three seconds, two five. And we're out and that ball's out and there the guy is. And here's what happens. When you stand in, and they see this on Sunday on Monday or Tuesday when they look at the tape.

And what happens to the. offensive lineman and everybody in that offensive meeting, they look and see what you just got. And it may have been their guy that got you. So the little guilt. Yes. You're getting pumped. And you don't say a word and you get up and you don't feel good all the time. You get up.

Listen, Colin, sometimes you get up. I mean, I've been known to be a little bit of an actor in the huddle. I would. TB, are you okay? but it buys you so they take it personal and they love you when you stand in there like that and show that courage and it it's it's a great way of leading a football team when you can display courage so um i like philadelphia going into last night and one of the things i liked good i said listen um if you go fast against physical physical mostly wins so it's interesting right

so back in your day philadelphia is a little like your team built-on-line play, but a big-time quarterback and guys over the top. You can do both. But you were known, even you, physical big tough. That's Philly. Right. But they can go over the top a little. Yep.

Miami's known as a speedboat. So. I love speed. I know you do. Speed kills. You've got more than your share of boats, planes, but I will say this. Go back to your era. When you played a flashy fun fast team, didn't you sense in the film room on Tuesday,

they're going to fold. They don't want us. No. Like I look at Miami and I thought last night, they don't want any peace. Once the last time they played a tough team. Buffalo and Philly. Buffalo and they got beat. And what happened?

And then we're talking. And listen, all of us on the Fox pregame show, we're all going, Miami. God, I love that to a Tongue Vialoa. Love him, love him, love him. Love to watch him throw. Quick. See that ball? See that left foot plant ball going, boom.

You're like, wow, that is so accurate, courageous. And then there's speed. My wife, Tammy, who's in. this too. Hi, sweetie. It's fun to see that speed. Man, if I, I've said this thousand times, if I were a general manager or I'll say a head coach and I'm talking to my general manager and I'm new on the job and I'm going to take one side to build. All right, I'm going to build one side. I'm not going to take a great offensive than a defense and the defense. My thinking is all, I'm going to pick one side. So when I took this team over, where was the greatest talent?

on my defense, so that's where I'm going. I'm going to really build that up. Then I'll work on the other side. But if I could start a team, Colin, I won't speed. I won't guys that can fly. Can you imagine Tyreek Hill if he were in, I know they got Rice, the young second round pick, Rice out of SMU down in Kansas City now. But can you imagine if Tyreek Hill, it stayed there just so he could win and go into playoffs

and win Super Bowls, which he would. Virtually impossible that have. end. God, is he fast? Yeah. Doesn't that, I mean, how about when you used to see the old San Diego Chargers? Oh, yeah. John Jefferson. Yeah. John Jefferson Chandler. Yeah. Chum, tum, boom, boom, everywhere. I love that. So I do, I do love and I would build for speed. That's what I would do. So I want to, so I didn't initially like the Brotherly Shove. I don't like it at all. So here were my two knocks. Okay. The tush, push. It's up, it's a

aesthetically gross. It's not good. But then I thought to myself, all quarterback sneaks are awful on TV. And then I said people can get hurt. Well, people can get hurt on screenplays. What they're doing is not like the Houston Astros. It's not like a piece of a device or a cleat. Couldn't I argue it's Nick Sariani saying, I've got the best center in 20 years in the league. I mean, like a Mike Webster level.

A auto, a auto level, about eight of them in the league. Right. And then I got a quarterback who deadlift 600 pounds. Right. It's a play. Dead lives. You, if it was so easy. Does he dead live 600?

That's what they say. Okay. But my point is, isn't it just a coach saying, I've got the best center in 20 years and the strongest quarterback? Okay. Now, the next time you see, for all your viewers out there, next time you see the brotherly love or the brotherly shove. Yeah, whatever they call it.

Watch this quarterback. He gets, the centers come down. Yeah. All right? And then there he, he gets on, his legs aren't even. moving. Look at that. Seriously. They are pushing. He's riding an escalator. It's like being on top of a wave and just

just going right over. I find that interesting. I don't like it. I think it's, you know, I'm kind of bored with it. It's not pretty. No, not at all. No, it's, to some degrees, I say it's not football, but I'm old school. And, you know, God bless them for coming up with that.

You like fullbacks. Yeah. I had a fullback. I had a halfback. They don't do that anymore. So, yeah, and look, I'm not going to say who because it wouldn't be right of me. But we have discussed or I have read where our guys have discussed the brotherly shoves and the ways of handling it. And it borderlies on Brutown.

Right, right, right. Yeah, Bruchat just busted up. Yeah. Bust it up. Well, because everything else isn't working. No. Nothing else is working. How are you going to get under those guys?

You got to see. If you had an average. You've got to get under those guys. Yeah. And their heads are no higher off the ground than the football is. You've got to get under it. You can't get under it. Yeah.

And then it's just a wave of massive human flesh. So we talk about... You like it. No, no, no. I couldn't stand it. Okay. But it is innovation. And it's not, it's not...

equipment-based. It's not we've got video. We stole your signals. It's like, yeah, the center's the best guy since. Well, what we've got now? My left guard weighs three shit, 25. My center's 3.30. My right guard, 360.

And they're the biggest tight ends in the league. Most of my tight ends are. It's a tug-of-war. 280. Yeah. And my quarterback's 240. All right. Before we get the Taylor Swift, I'm going to get there.

Don't care if we get the Taylor Swift. Okay. But I watch, so a lot of people today are, banging on Justin Herbert, the quarterback for the Chargers. Right. And I said this. If you look at what they do well, there's four categories. All of them are tied to him.

Special teams no good. Can't stop the run. Can't run. Don't play good defense. They're red zone offense. They don't turn it over. And they're passing without a number one. They're all great.

So I said, it's so easy to crush the quarterback. And it's funny when you mentioned the Chargers. So the Chargers never won the big game. Nobody blamed Fouts. That was the part we liked about him. Corrielle, right? And so you were winning titles, and Stabler was with in titles, and Aitman won titles. People win titles.

Find me the great quarterback who won a ring without a great coach. It doesn't exist. Montana Walsh, Brady Belichick. I've said this for my entire life. So you can bang on the quarterback. Yeah. They don't do anything well except quarterback. Then get him a coach.

They can hook his hip too. See, that's what I think's missing there. You told me Sean Payton is who you would have hired him. I would have hired Sean, but Sean's gone. He's not available. And from some of my sources. Yeah. Sources.

I trust him. They wouldn't have gone there. They wouldn't have hired him. So I think that's one of the reasons Sean went to Denver. He knew that. He knew that. I didn't know that. And I'm even talking to Sean.

Wait a year. Wait a year, man. That's the place to be. You got a quarterback with your offensive mind. Oh, oh, oh, hang on Nelly. That would be good stuff right there, but I didn't know that he knew that they weren't going to, they weren't going to sign him even if they got rid of the guy they have. Yeah.

So, but, yeah, I guess you're asking about their quarterback, right? I just think. I love that guy. Yeah. I mean, we didn't blame Fouts. We didn't blame, we don't blame the court. Like, at the end, you can't win a ring without a great coach. No, you got to have the coach.

That's for sure. I mean, you and Noel didn't have to agree, but you respected his ability, Chuck. Absolutely. You knew he knew his stuff. He dang sure did. I respected him. I was taught my football knowledge was starting number one with defense. I've always been taught that from high school on college.

Second is run the football all the way through high school. I completed 78 passes since high school. That's the only statistic. I know. 78 passes. 23 I went for touchdowns, by the way. Yeah. If I have to.

I liked your arm in high school. Yeah. I told people. I liked my arm too. Yeah. And so I was geared to looking deep. So instead of progressions, which I should be going short, medium, long, I went long.

Short. Now, by the time you come to short, he's either run out of bounds because he was running and then the flat or something. But one of the things that Chuck did a complimentary route on the right-hand side, say I had a say a 14-yard old cut sideline route well he knew that if

we had mirror routes in other words the same thing on the other side then the other outline or sideline route was three yards deeper so that if I went here and it was covered and when I turned my timing would be caught up with stalworth so the routes to the left

off of the main side of the tree were always a tad longer so timing would be it was pretty smart Chuck and them do that. But that's the way I was raised now. It's the opposite. That's it. Now it's throw, throw, throw.

And so guys like me are a little bit jealous of guys that get to throw it all the time. Because we weren't that good. I mean, I threw 12 touchdown passes, but I had 210 interceptions. Yeah. Not very good. Yeah. Our completion percentage. Mine was 51.9.

Yeah. The same complete, that's the same amount of alcohol that's in Terry Bratchell Bourbon, 51.9. That is shocking when we found that out. We couldn't believe that that's, the bourbon was 51.9. Unbelievable. Matched up. So we used it. Yeah.

By the way, that was a different error. Joe Namath threw more picks than touchdowns. Yeah. You threw the ball down the field. Down the field. That's what you did. All right. So I want to get into this whole.

So the Taylor Swift thing is I, I think it's fun. But it is funny. Have you seen Kelsey's numbers with her at the stadium and without? He's a way better player when she's there. So you've been in the music industry. So years ago, I know a guy in Nashville. And he just happened to work in the office with Taylor Swift's dad.

So it's like 12, 15 years ago. So he said, one of the guys in our office, his daughter is like a star down here. And I'm like, really? I asked my daughter. She's like, Dad, Taylor Swift? So two days later, I get a pick in the mail with an autograph. smart, neat people. So do you, Andy Reid's joking about it.

He's like, season tickets, get her here. Do you think Kelsey, a little show off when she's in the stadium? Because he's a completely different player this year when she's in the stadium. Well, he faced his own yesterday and he should have eaten it up and he did. All right. I do think, look, had I been married to Tammy? Yeah. When I played for my rookie your own, I'd have thrown for 96,000 yards,

800 touchdown passes and 10 interceptions. It's amazing how good you can do. Look, zone, there. See anybody else around him? Nope. There he goes. Yeah. It's amazing when you take, look at that.

Watch this. Here we go with the brotherly shove there. There's this gal. Now, she's talented, right? You acknowledge that. Oh, yeah. She's phenomenal. What makes her great?

Her songs, her song writing. Well, I know her song writing. Her song writing. Her song write. I don't think vocally. She's in the same Kelly Clarkson and some of those, not vocally. She sings good. Yeah.

But her songwriting is really good. And young people love her. I mean, young people love her. I mean. They had six. She sold out so-fi six shows in a row. Six shows. Do you know it, they had said he went to one that it is.

Do you like it? Now, tell him, Terry, she goes three hours. Yeah. How does a vote? How do you sing for three hours? Well, maybe you do. don't maybe it's uh some of it some yeah you cannot run around a stage and sing live for three hours no no they nobody would probably admit that but i i do a show in brantz i do 20 shows at the

clay cooper theater yeah and if i walk once all the way to the right side of the stage yeah i'd take a break too much cardio it's too much man it their songs are you know the whole shows are taped and yeah They're singing to tape. A lot of stars are. You cannot. The only person I've ever seen that could really do that was Freddie Mercury of Queen. Remember the concert? He would run everywhere.

And all live back then, phenomenal great breath control. And I'm sure Taylor and a lot of these very choreograph shows, a lot of that, they're singing live to tape. Right. You know, so the tape's going on. and they're singing if something happens to the tape, then boom, then go around. I'm just guessing now. You went to the show. So I live in L.A.

There's a lot of celebrities around here, right? Right. When she was in town, I would go to a restaurant. A third of the restaurant were women dressed and going to the show. The whole in Los Angeles, this is not Cincinnati where you don't get a lot of that stuff. We got 31 music venues here. When you went, where you blown away. You've got to stop going to the elementary schools for dinner.

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Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Now, what was the one thing you were blown away with? I mean, I got chills and I'm not like a huge Taylor Swift fan, but I am now.

I mean, you're talking about, what, 70,000 people just freaking out. I've never seen anything like it before. No. I, look, I saw, I've seen a lot of great rock and roll people I've you know I Joe stopped

Joe Crocker Crocker yeah I saw here in L.A. stood backstage in 1971 and sat there and you know what will you do and I'm like

wow and he you know Springsteen does three out Springsteen goes forever Bruce has been doing that forever but I do listen I will say this and this is where I probably should say is that they're conditioned for that.

When I play a football game, I've been running sprints and lifting weights, and I'm in great shape. So I can play for three hours easy. I'm not on the field three hours. I know that. But I can play. Hot, cold. I can play.

I mean, I'm ready. I'm conditioned my lungs. Everything's conditioned my legs. And I'm sure that they're conditioned. But I have sung on shows, and I've, Seriously, I've tried to move a little bit. And I'm 75, so maybe that's part of it. It's a tough gig, man, when you do that.

So hats off a, you know, hats off to Taylor and Bruce and all these people that can actually sing live for three hours. All right. I want to talk about Jordan Love. Here's one of the things Michael Vick said this. Did we get through talking about Kenny Pickett? You know, no, we did like eight minutes on Kenny. We're good with it. Oh, we did?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Well, I got a short memory here. And by the way, we need to send some love out this morning to Jimmy Johnson. Yeah, because he's watching your show for the first time. For the first time. Jimmy, lots of love is Colin Cowher. I call him Cowheads a lot of times sometimes back.

You like me. I steal all his stuff out of his dressing room, put peanuts in his shoes when he did. Yeah, you did. Okay, I want to address Jordan Love. Got it. So Michael Vick said something that was interesting earlier. He said when you watch Aaron Rogers for three years, you steal some stuff and Aaron

we've seen video of it will throw the ball and his feet are off the ground and Jordan Love bounce bounce Aaron could do that yeah that's not so when I watch Jordan Love he is struggling with a deep ball but you told me earlier you weren't surprised by that because of college no he's he's

he was a kid that came out of Utah State yeah of not being a accurate passer down the field and yeah and there it is right there. That's the one thing he doesn't do well. Now, I will say this, you should never, and I played that position and I did it. Everybody has, but you should not throw interceptions when you're throwing deep because you can see that. You're back here in a pocket, and the further way they get, the more you can see with coverage. So throwing interceptions going deep unless it's

a helm area or something, really you shouldn't do. You just shouldn't do. Now, he's only, is the fourth year, his first year to start. I don't know what Aaron Rogers' numbers were when he, he's, he's, he first started. He was six and ten, but the thing is, Terry, there were moments his rookie year, he was brilliant. You know, Josh Allen's first year. Well, he didn't start his rookie year, by the way. No, no, no, I mean, by the time Aaron was on the field, you were like, it's Josh Allen.

Right. There was some, whoa. Yeah. That's some wow there. Got it. That's my thing with Jordan. I don't see any wow. Well, listen, just because you draft a kid, number one doesn't mean he's going to turn out.

Look what happened in San Francisco. Right. They had three number ones. Yeah. Their own and two they picked up and got rid of for that guy. And he's gone. He's in Dallas not playing. Jordan Love, you don't know.

I mean, the same thing could have been said in Chicago for Justin Fields until he had back-to-back four touchdown games. Then he's hurt. And it comes this kid from wherever. Webster. What? Shepard. Shepherd. Shepard.

Yeah. A population of the city. We looked it up yesterday. 2000. Yeah. 2000. All town. Yeah.

2000. That says it. all right there yeah yeah all right so we got to go if i want to ask you one more question we got to go like to a commercial break or am i through i'm off the show oh i'm off the show well it's 25 minutes we got it we got to go okay so i so i mean it's just right i stayed over all day you got 30 minutes and i got nothing else to do all right all right no i'm going all right okay so this is take your time what so you were a number one draft pick and it's hard i mean tony romo wasn't drafted right right Kurt Warner wasn't drafted.

Right. So when Brock Purdy plays tonight, right. Obviously, he, I remember you, I remember you early. Big, big arm. Usually a number one pick. There's something there.

You can run. You move. So Brock Purdy doesn't have a lot of that, but there is something because he, and when you watch him, he's not a number one guy. He doesn't have big hand, big arm.

But what works? Why does it work so well? He fits that system. You know, everybody says, well, he's a system guy. Who isn't? Who isn't a system guy?

We fit in to the offensive philosophy of the team that we're with. So he fits into the Shanahan system. When I see him play, he has what I said earlier, poise. He has a nice arm, not a great arm. He is extremely accurate, extremely accurate. And he's really good on his third read, which is the deeper, deep ends and stuff. That passed he through two weeks ago before they played the Brown. The past year.

picked up five miles an hour, how he said this on our pre-gum show. He went through a series of exercises, mental exercises, that were reflex exercises, quick twitch muscles, not lifting weights. He never lifted a weight, he ever than five pounds, and picked up five miles an hour on his passes. That's unheard of. So he went from an average arm to above average arm, okay? In one off season.

Yeah, he did that before he was drafted. He was a sick. What did he get? The last man drafted. He went off and this guy, I can't think of his name, wish I could. I was going to use it on a show, but I didn't get a chance. But he studied this mind thing, and it's a quick twitch muscles. It's not lifting weights.

It's not running fast. It's your mind. And everything's quick, quick, quick. And then when he picked the football off, fow. Yeah. And it was like, God. So he has everything, Shanahan. That's why he got rid of the other guy.

He's smart. Now, I do think that when they played Cleveland last week in the bad weather, and he played the number one defense in the NFL, and we saw we got exposed a little bit, got out of where they, and they lost their running back, and Debo Samuels was out of that game. They needed him to be great. Well, how are you going to be great when you don't have your people there?

Listen, one of you people on these talk shows going to learn? You better have people. You better be talented. You better have an offensive line. can give a young kid a chance to read. He's being prepared properly. Shanahan's brilliant at that. And he needs, he needs, all of us did.

Terry Brasho's not in the Hall of Fame because I was so great, but I had Swan, Starwood. Listen to this, Webster at Center, and I had Franco Harris, I can go Joe Green. Bergeny, Cunningham. I can name them all. You need people. And when he lost those two, then that slowed down the whole thing.

And you have to think a little bit, Colin, that his confidence may have wavered. Uh-oh, Debo's gone. He makes great plays. He takes five-yarders and makes them 25 to 60-yarders. And then McCaffrey's out now. There's an explosion right off the bat. He came in, boom, boom, touchdown by McCaffrey.

Now he's out. Now he's going to play tonight. You know, I just hope he doesn't hurt himself even worse than he already is. Depot, I understand. It's not playing. So you've got to have players, but he has it. I think I admire him a lot. I love watching him.

You know who I've always said I love watching play? It's a guy in Garoppolo. Now, why do I like Garoppolo? You know why? I feel like he's that second guy on everybody's chart, and he just smiles, and he goes out there, and he does his job, and his delivery is just super, man. Boom, just gets it out there,

and they beat up on him emotionally and mentally. And he's just, hey, you know, it's okay. all on me and he takes it. I admire people like that. I love Jimmy Gropolo and maybe he's not an upper tier guy, but, you know, I thought he played pretty well in San Francisco. They gave up on him. Okay, so now, see, we just went.

I know, I know. I got to go. No, hold on. I'm going to give you one more because we're really late and I have one minute left. So he's the last player picked. In your career, give me a guy that you played with that was drafted way down the draft and you knew instantly in camp. Oh, he's going to make the team.

Joe Green. Oh, right. No, no. Where was mean Joe? Where was he drafted? He's the right. Now he was number one. Yeah. What about Rocky Blar? Where was he drafted? He was like the last draft 12th. I think they had 12 there. And you got shut up in Vietnam. And when he came back, yeah. Yeah, you knew he was special. You knew instantly. Oh, absolutely. Not that he was going, the fastest guy or any of that. But man, he was one of those guys that, God, he's just in practice. He was positive.

He was always there. He could block anybody. He could catch. Oh, yeah. We didn't throw the back, but that much. But, yeah, he was special. Calvin Sweeney came to us in the second round, and I saw him in practice out of USC,

and I went, wow, this guy's amazing. Jim Smith came to us from Michigan, on third or fourth rounder, and you go, whoa, this guy is so good. Randy, I mean, there's a bunch of guys. Donny Schell, a free agent, out of South Carolina State or

Yeah, yeah And one of the black schools Oh, Bob In training camp Back when you hit training camp You're practicing pads Yeah Oh, he was nasty

I went to a Seahawks camp years ago Number 41 From Colgate And he lit Steve Largent up I think it was Steve Largent One of those receivers Eugene Robinson I went to his first practice

The Seahawks And we were I went to college there We're all like Who's the guy from Colgate? First practice, lit everybody out. You can see talent real quick. I remember Jack Lambert in the lunchroom, and he was, what, a second, third round or something like that, tall, skinny guy.

And they said, Lambert, get up and sing. And he said, to you. Yeah. He didn't sing. And I went, hmm. Don't mess with him. Yeah. What, 200, 218 pounds?

And I went, wow, Joe Green, all them guys are sitting back laughing at him. He wasn't going to sing. He didn't sing. And you know what? Nobody asked him to sing after that. All right. Got to take a break. I'll be here from the second segment, folks. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific.

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