The Herd with Colin Cowherd - THE HERD - Hour 3 - Phil Simms joins The Herd

Episode Date: January 21, 2026

Super Bowl champion QB Phil Simms stops by The Herd to talk about John Harbaugh, why he feels Jaxson Dart is the guy, and what to expect from the G-Men next seasonSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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radio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. to Fox Sports Radio. We're my favorite guys. Phil Sims. Two Super Bowl championships, 15 years with the Giants. He had a coach that was difficult. I've said today is every year I go out and pick

a team that's my double my win total team. So this year it was New England because I love Brable. And I had a lot of free agent money and a year before it was Washington. I got pretty lucky on that, right? Because I love Jaden Daniels at LSU. And then before

that it was the Rams, that it was the Vikings. So I said the minute you hired Harbaugh, I'm like, they need a right tackle, probably another receiver, tied in. Everybody needs another corner in the whole world except the Seahawks. I think they're going to win 12 games. 11, 12 games. Phil Sims probably chucklin at that, but I think, you know, they let 7-1 score losses.

They led Denver by 10. They led the Bears by 10. They led the Lions by 10 in the fourth quarter. So do I sound like a lunatic when I said, I think they can win the division next year. I don't think they're that far away, even though they had a bad record. Yeah, I heard you talking during the break, and I got to tell you, I think you were spot on.

You kind of fired me up. I'm like, damn, I'm more excited about the Giants now than I was all last year, so it's great. But you're right. They, listen, they have the quarterback. In fact, it's almost, it's bad that he got drafted as late as he did. Should have been drafted before his number came up,

but he played really well. And now they got a quarterback. and they got John Harbaugh, I mean, and they got a defensive line that can get to the quarterback. Those are my two things. Yeah. You know, people, I was told this, I've been told this by GMs through the years. You're not hiring a scheme guy. You've got to hire a CEO.

If he's good with schemes like Kyle Shanahan, that's a bonus. You're hiring a CEO. You tell me, based on your career, can one guy, John Harbaugh, can one guy change the culture? 100%. Not even a question. It's easy to answer. And, you know, I had it with Bill Parcells. He was the culture.

He set the table every day what he wanted, what he demanded. And then I had this coach Dan Reeves, and I wondered about him. We're at first meeting we have. He comes into the room. The team is there. He puts his notepad down on the lecter, and he's, of course, looking great. The hair's perfect. He's got the tie on.

He looks out over us, and he goes, sit up straight, put your feet on the floor, and take those damn hat. off. And I'm sitting there and he did it with a voice that was scary. And I turned to Bart Oates and I went, we're going to win. And we did it. Because now we know who's in charge and we got to listen and do what he says. And to me, that's just a small part. These head coaches have a chance to really sit to the culture and change everything. John Harbaugh, 18 years down in Baltimore. And what do you think? Every player, they've heard the message many, many times, then it wears then.

Now he comes to New York, the players are going to be excited to hear that message. And so it changes him, his enthusiasm, how he manages these players. And, you know, it's an exciting time, I think, for the New York Giants. Are you sure Jackson Darts the guy? He's in that tent constantly, Phil. How are you going to stay out of that? Are you sure he's the guy? Well, you know, the tent's one thing.

So we got to, Giants got to correct that. I'm not laughing, but it just kind of shows you who he is a little bit. But talent-wise, Colin, I am 100% behind him and think he's even more than I expected. And I studied him really hard because I knew the Giants liked him. And I don't know, it came to me late, the guy's more mobile than I thought. And then going to practice during preseason and training camp, I go, damn, he can throw it too. I mean, like, throw it better than I expected. And so, and then he took it to the field and right.

way, instant hit, man. It was awesome to watch. Yeah, I mean, he's got the confidence of a guy. The look, the feel, I mean, he is, I'll say this, he's got juice. And that's what I look for. He's got an energy and a juice about him when he's on the field. You can tell that the players like him and trust him. That's a big deal.

He's got that. By the way, when you were a quarterback, I mean, you had great players around you. You weren't the most talented New York Giant, Lawrence Taylor, those kind of level players. what is the secret for a young you come into the league and you're a kid and you got older players than you what's the secret to being 25 years old and having a 33 year old buy into you well you know for me it was do your job and shut up uh you know because it just it was different for jackson dart his personality you know i kind of thought man when it comes here is it really going to work uh with on the on the pro level and it worked big time

The players love him. He's got an infectious energy to him, to how he plays and who he is in practice in the locker room. You know, I see all these videos, and I know it's just a different world. He's always dancing and they're doing all this stuff. And yeah, he's got it. You know, he's got the personality that you want in a professional quarterback. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, F.S1 and the IHeart Radio app.

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He won eight playoff games. You shocked they let him go? Yeah, I was. I was shocked. You know, listen, there's, you know, before the year started, I'll just do it this way. I looked at their roster, and you do this too, and I think you do a really good job at it. I looked at it and go, why are people saying this is a Super Bowl roster? I don't get it.

You know, as he watched these teams, and, you know, a little bit different. Denver might be a little different, but big, powerful teams seem to be. be to me what I would want and give you a better chance of winning playoff games going to the Super Bowl. But I was surprised that they let him go, but what they're going to have coming in, whoever it is, again, it's a new voice. It's a new way. And maybe that's all they need is something a little different to get them over the top. You know, it's interesting with, we've got Sean Payton against Mike Vrable. And I look at the Patriots, Phil. I got the same owner that Brady had. I got the same offensive

quarter coordinator Brady had. Drake May moves more than Brady, but he's a big tall kid that's accurate. You know, he's not as good in the pocket yet as Tom was, probably a better mover. And Vrable to me looks like a more current Belichick, where he's a little more player friendly, a little more engaging with the media. He's a current

Belichick, super bright, no BS, all about football. I look at New England, and I told my friend Nick Wright this yesterday, everybody's looking at Buffalo, in Baltimore. I said, if you told me Andy Reed and Mahomes' biggest obstacle for the next 10 years, I said it's Vrable, Robert Kraft, Drake May, Josh McDaniel, that's the obstacle. Do you feel as high on the Patriots as I do? Yes, I do. I feel high on Mike Vrable. Look, you're talking about

Sean Peyton and Mike Vrable. You talk about culture, sitting the table, understanding the whole organization, especially as a football team, they got it. And you know, Mike Vrable, I was down in Tennessee one year. I'll never forget this. We're just talking and we're kind of talking about what we're doing right now. And he goes, Phil, one thing I've learned in this league, I thought it was all about I got the X's and O's and that's not it. It's connecting with the players. And he changed why he was at Tennessee and he's carried that over to New England. I mean, during, every time they score, something goes well, you know, he's hugging the players and Right.

You know, it gives them energy. They want that recognition that they did something well, and it's really fun to watch. And to see these two playing a game, I kind of know what Vrable's going to do, but Sean Payton, man, your guess is as good as anybody what he's going to do in this game, but Jared Stiddle. So I'm watching Seattle and the Rams,

and this doesn't happen very often, Phil. Maybe about once a decade, you get a team where they've got a player on a team-friendly, deal, a quarterback. And then they don't miss draft picks for several years. And it's Seattle. And I've been saying this all year with Seattle. If you turn the sound down, no bias, just watch

them. They look longer and faster. They're just going a hundred. Their special teams are fast. They don't have any holes. And I want you to go back to your career. That doesn't mean they're going to win the Super Bowl. But you do get that. And by the way, the last team like this may have been

Pete Carroll Russell-Wilson Seahawks, where you got Russell was on a rookie deal and Pete was out of college and they nailed drafts for about four years. They were finding stars in the sixth round. And I look at Seattle and I'm like, they don't look like anybody else. Doesn't mean they're the best team. In your career, how do you beat teams? Because you didn't have the best team every time.

How do you beat a team? And I think Sean McVeigh looks at this and goes, I don't know if we have the best roster. I don't know if we do. How do you use Seattle's youth and explode? and speed and length against them. Did you ever face a team where you knew you didn't have the best roster? Well, yeah, Chicago Bears in 1985. Hell, it was, man, that was as rough as it gets and as tough as it gets.

And, yeah, we knew we had to improve the following year to be able to compete more with them, and it worked out. But, you know, you talk about Seattle. I was asked this question a few times they just talking to people, and I say, wait, they're big, they look big, they're fast, they got depth. I think they're well-coached. Man, I think this is a big hurdle for the Los Angeles Rams.

And now we got the fans. And one thing about fans in playoff games, if you're down 10 to nothing during a regular season game, they might boo you. But you're down 10 to nothing in a playoff game. The fans are still rooting you on. Let's go. And I think it's going to be a very, very tough test for the Rams going up there.

Because I think when I look at the Seahawks, I see many advantages they could have in the game. I look at the Rams and just go, man, Sean McVeigh, they got to be really smoking on offense, and the quarterback's going to have to really, really, I think, play special for them to beat Seattle. Yeah, Seattle's better on defense and special teams. I think we can say that right now. Interesting.

I remember when John Elway won a Super Bowl and retired. And John could have still played, but it was time. He'd had a lot of injuries. And, you know how it is. You're beat up. You're just tired of practice. You're tired of camp. you could probably still spin it.

You just don't want to go through the nonsense of, you know, getting ready for a season physically. And I look at Stafford, who's had a myriad of shoulder and knee. And if he won a second Super Bowl, the money's not the issue. It wasn't with Elway. You know, that's not the issue. I look at it and I think he's a Hall of Famer probably now. Second Super Bowl, he's first ballot stuff. If he wins, take me to your last year or two, could you see?

see Stafford saying, man, I'm going to do an L-Way. I can still sling it, but I just don't want to go through camp. What do you make if he wins? What do you think he would do? I don't think he'll retire. I don't. One thing, we're showing a highlight right there.

There's another perfect pass spiral down the field. It's beautiful. And man, when you can play like he can and throw like he can, it's hard to give it up, Colin. I mean, you talk about training camp and all those other things. Come on. For the quarterback, it's great. You want me to go out there and throw more today? Wow, okay, that's what I love to do.

Anyway, let's do it. So I think he enjoys the game too much. I think he still has incredible talent. I mean, they're in Chicago last week. Him and Caleb Williams, did they know it was cold, windy, and snowy and all that? Because they didn't like it. They were throwing damn darts all over the place. At Stanford, it's just very few guys just play a long career like he's had and lose arm strength. He hasn't lost any. He's still as special as ever. I said that play that Caleb made last week. I said, I don't think there's five guys ever could do to make that throw. I mean, it just takes in that wind. It's hard. And I've made the argument that I can't judge Caleb like I can judge Stafford because there's two plays with Caleb, the one Ben Johnson scripted

and the one he'll make up if it doesn't go right. And Josh Allen's got that. Are you in the Caleb group now? Did it take a while? What do you make of him just going forward? I loved him coming out. And after his rookie year, I said if they redraft them again, I still want Caleb Williams. I'm not a fan. Hell, I'm leading it.

I love what he does on the field, who he is. Let's see, he's big, strong, mobile. He's got a very special arm in many, many ways can run and throw it. And he makes, in one game, he can make more spectacular. throws than some quarterbacks will have in a whole year. And yes, you know, there's certain things. Oh, it's completion percentage. Man, I couldn't care two whatever's about his stupid completion percentage. When you're a quarterback like him, everything looks open because of that arm. And he's going to down the field. So, you know, he only needs a little tiny window and he'll rip it in there.

So, you know, he's never going to be 65. Well, he might get the 65 as he learns to check it down. they throw a few more screens and all that you know this completion percentage thing and i always hear about him oh my i come on there's more to talk about caleb williams than his stupid completion percentage it has nothing to do with the outcome of who he is and winning and losing for that football team in my eyes no i yeah i just there's just certain players you know it's almost it's almost like calvin johnson was so strong and so big. I mean, he was also fast, but I didn't care

a ton about his 40 time. He was just so big, smart, ran the route tree, strong hand, Pooka Nakua, by the way. He runs such good routes. His hands are so strong. I don't care what his 40 is. Not everybody is great. You know, the

traits. Like I, nobody like Bo Nix. Here's what I know about Bo Nix. He's athletic. He's tough. He never gets hurt. And he's really good, late in games. I don't care. Yeah, I mean, he's big when he's supposed to be big. So that's kind of where I, are you a Bo Nex fan?

Let me just say this about Caleb. There's no limit to what you can design for him. So you can, whatever you design, he's going to be able to do it. And whatever, it's this pass that, you know, whatever, running, he can do it. So Ben Johnson's got a canvas there and he just goes, I don't know what to paint because I got it all right there for me. And, you know, Caleb will settle down as time goes on and become a more accurate thrower

and know how to change the speeds a little better. You know, some criticisms, yeah, he's very aggressive decision maker. And let's be honest, sometimes he throws the ball so hard. I don't know how to hell they catch it. Yeah. It's just on TV, it's boom, it's there. Yeah. So, and Boe Nicks, man, his dad taught him what?

I heard it on a telecast. Don't take sacks as a quarterback. Mani gets rid of the football. He's mobile as you can be. And his arm is so much stronger than people giving credit for. And I really feel for him the fact that he's going to miss this two game. I really do. Yeah. Were you good in cold weather?

Giants got a lot of cruddy weather. Were you a good cold weather quarterback? I had no choice. I'm telling you, I would say 80% of the games I played in the old Giant Stadium, win was always a factor. Oh, yeah. And over time, like anything, I adapted to it. And what it does to you, somebody can be running down the field.

And if it's into the wind, you have to be a little careful. So they might have to dive for the ball. It could be low or whatever because you've got to give the win that respect. So that's changed overtime. Not as many windy games right now in the new stadium. And, of course, the climate change or whatever you want to say, we don't feel wind. It seems like until January.

But it was windy in Giant Stadium. 15 seasons with the New York Giants, two Super Bowls, first round pick at a Moorhead State. Who was your big rival? Who was Moorhead State's big rival? Oh, that was our best week. So it was, well, we had to week up. Hey, Colin, we were not good. It was a rough four years of playing.

I think I played every snap, which was great, at least to do certain things for the come into the league. our big rival name was eastern Kentucky. But I think Moorhead State went 20-some years before they beat them with this. I don't know if John Harbaugh was on that staff or not, but Rex Ryan was down there on the defensive staff. So they broke that skid because he just blitzed everybody all the time. That's Rex. Well, it was Rex all right.

He did a great job there. Phil, great seeing you again. all right Colin thanks for having me on man you bet Phil Sims he's he's fired up for the Giants too yeah get the right coach got a cheap young talented quarterback you get real good real fast in this league plus he's gonna be the best coach in the division he is today

going forward jacques with the news no no no turn on the news this is the herd line news gerrit stidham does that name do anything for anyone out there is throwing his first pass. I can't believe this, in two years in a playoff game with the Super Bowl on the line. He's taking a couple of deal downs in the last two seasons because Bo Nix is always healthy. Anyways, the last time he really suited up was week 17 when he was on the Raiders against the 49ers. And Max Crosby remembers Stidham in here. He had some nice things to say.

He was a teammate of mine. He's a great friend of me. He's a great friend of me. mine and he is a competitive individual. Denver did a great job by bringing him in having him as the backup because he's not just going to go in there and dink and dunk and play it safe. He's going to go out there and play quarterback and try to

help them win the game. Yeah, remember when Peyton took the job, I mean, it felt like immediately he went and spent $12 million a year on Stidham as a backup. I can remember saying that is a lot for a backup. I think very

early on Sean Payton felt like if this Russell thing doesn't work for 12 million bucks I got a guy good enough to win games as a starter so I kind of trust the Sean Payton it's like when Kyle Shanahan brought

Darnold in everybody banged on Darnold but like Shanahan's like no that guy can play if Sean Payton brings you in Sean like the Teddy Bridgewater you know I mean Sean's opinion on quarterbacks matter so he thinks he's good plus he knows the system now he knows the teammate so it's not like

you know I tend to think he'll be fine. I don't think they'll win now, but I think they'll be fine. I really, I think it's a close. Define fine. I think he'll go if he went 15 for 23 for 180 yards and a touchdown pass and one pick. Is that going to get it done? I don't know, but he's not Bo Nix, but I don't think he's going to be the root cause for the issues. You know, I think I also wonder, I mean, again, he knows the playbook so you can run everything. He doesn't move quite like Nix. He moves a little, but I think the Bo Nix athletic ability is a real component to Denver's eye. I mean, it was last week.

First half he was running all over the place. So I would favor New England in this game. If Bo Nix played, I'd probably take Denver close. I'll now take New England close. Yeah, the markets don't know really how to react to this change, this downgrade. I'm seeing some people say as many as eight points, a swing from Bo Nix. The market settled around six and a half. Wow.

It's just tough to gauge. The guy hasn't thrown a pass in two seasons. What does that tell you that Bo Nix is worth a touchdown for all the critics? Bow Nix over a guy that Sean Payton thinks is pretty talented. Well, I mean, listen, if it was Mack Jones, obviously it wouldn't be a six point downgrade because Jones is an established credible quarterback. This is a total mystery. I mean, Jared Sidham could come out and throw for $250.

I mean, I would be surprised. I don't know. But you made a good point that Christian Gonzalez in his Patriots defense has shown well against Stroud. and Herbert in the first two rounds. Their run defense is the real problem. Nobody can get through them with- But Denver doesn't... Denver's run game is spotty.

I think New England's corners are second to Seattle of the team. Well, I mean, Patrick Sertan's good. He hadn't had the greatest year, a good year. It feels like to me. But New England's... New England's secondary, their corners are... I mean, it reminds me a lot of

Brable and Tennessee and Belichick in New England. A lot of contact, a lot of physicality. ball in the air. I think New England's secondary is really good. I just, you know, it's tough to pick the Broncos in this spot just because you don't know what you're getting from Sinam. They're at home. Yeah, what is that?

Home field is worth what, two points, Colin, two and a half this year? I don't know. Well, she should be a good game. Let's move on to, ooh, some drama with a quarterback and his name is Baker Mayfield. Now, Kevin Stefanski was hired by the Falcons this week. And the media, you know, in Atlanta's very excited. and they're starting to dig into what happened with Stefansky in Cleveland. Who did he have in Cleveland, Colin?

Baker Mayfield. So one of the Falcons beatwriters said that Stifansky dealt with a dumpster fire, his words, situation in Cleveland. Baker Mayfield, you know, because this is what he does, shined in. Well, not so fast. I wouldn't quite call it that. And then, of course, Baker Mayfield had to make it personal. I was shipped off like a piece of garbage,

and I'm still waiting for the text or call from you, Stifansky. Look forward to seeing you twice a year in the division. Now, it gets better. Joe Thomas, the legendary Cleveland offensive lineman, he responded, hey, communication is a two-way street, Baker. You know, there's no laws against you sending Stafansky something, saying, hey, man, a great working with you after you got traded. So here we go, off-season squabble, very NBA of these guys to get into it.

Baker's got a chip on bow shoulders. I mean, that's who he is. He often plays better with that. You know, listen, when you let go of an employee, people move on. I think Baker has had a very redeemable career. I think Stafansky's really smart. But Baker, you know, Baker did lead them to a playoff win. So let's, I don't think he was a dumpster fire in Cleveland.

I thought he needed to grow up a little. But, I mean, the Cleveland media also poked him in the ribs. lot. So I look at Baker. Baker was a lot better in Cleveland that Donald was with the Jets. So I don't classify it as a disaster. If you win a playoff game over the Steelers as a Browns quarterback, that is not a dumpster fire. I think that's way over the top. Let's quickly remember the game Baker won in the playoffs. He was solid against the Steelers, 2163 yards, three touchdowns. But, but Cleveland jumped to a 28-0 lead in the first quarter because Ben Rothesberger was a disaster for turnovers.

And, you know, he threw, I mean, it was a crazy game. It's weird, Colin, our staff here at the herd, some guys here in L.A., they seem to think maybe Stefansky's not that great of a coach. I think you and I are more in lockstep. You don't win coach of the year and get to the playoffs twice with the Browns, okay? If you're not a pretty damn good coach, I'm higher on Stefanski the most, I think you're with me. Yeah, I'm not putting him in McVeigh-Shanny class, but I think he's... No. I think he's...

I think Stefansky is a coach and Baker as a quarterback are similar. Stefansky needs the right personnel to win and Baker needs the right coach to win. Baker was good with Leon Combe and Dave Canales and Stefansky. He wasn't good this year. Baker's not good enough to overcome average coordinator or coaching. And I don't think Stafansky's McVeigh where he could turn around any mess. I think Stifansky needs things to work in his favor. I think they're both very good Baker and Stafansky.

and I don't categorize it as a dumpster fire at all. That's not how I view that, right? I always said it's turbulent. Baker plays with a chip. Cleveland's a worn-down city that's just sometimes miserable. Sometimes. So, come, remember, overcoming ownership and getting to the playoffs twice? I mean, I think Stafansky's a pretty damn good coach.

I will remind people, they were headed toward disaster. He plucks Joe Flacco off of his sofa and guides him. flacco to the playoffs. That's right. Okay, I know they got stomped by the Texans, but you still got to the postseason. That's got to be worth something. Final story is in the NBA where my New York Knicks, bit of a tailspin, Kyle. Remember they won the

NBA Cup? You know, and everybody was geeked, and I'm talking champions, or going to the finals. They've lost 9 of 11 since they were on top of the world and they lost on Martin Luther King Day. They were down by 30 to the Mavs. Yes, the Mavs. According to a report,

Alain Brunson called a players-only meeting to address some things. Carl Anthony Towns is being booed lustily. They want him shipped FedEx out of New York tomorrow. Fans are done with his act. I'm just hoping this is just a post-holiday malaise that the Knicks are going through. They know they're the best in the East. They fall into third behind Detroit and Boston in the standings. But I still think this is the team to beat in the East.

I'm just curious, do you think if this. This continues. Carl Anthony Towns maybe ends up getting traded. I don't think they can get Janus before the deadline. Tibbs was a culture guy. Mike Brown brings in a different sensibility totally. So Tibbs has really got his own ecosystem. So I think it's difficult. I think it takes time. I wouldn't freak out. They are, you know, they're not a great defensive team. They're struggling to defend the three. I think they'll be fine. You can't judge NBA teams in January. I think it takes it takes time. have to make a tweak at the deadline. I think Detroit and the Knicks. I'm Philadelphia's interesting team. I love their back court, but I think

they'll be fine. I just think you got a different, totally different kind of coach. Let me quickly note, they play the Nets tonight. If the Knicks somehow lose this game, I think you go to like DefCon 3 and we start workshopping Carl Anthony Town's trades. Because this is,

they are not going to, the owner came out recently and was like, yeah, we got to win a championship. We got to go the finals. I mean, there's some pressure on the Knicks right now, Colin. It's similar to the NFL where it was like, hey, no Burrow, no Lamar, no Mahomes. Hey, Josh Allen, can you get us to the Super Bowl? They fail, coach fired. I know the Knicks just fired Tibbs, but this is the season. The Knicks have to break through these. Jay Mack with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Hurd-Lie News. Ben Johnson, head coach of the

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Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to a... We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts around there. but this one's extra special.

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Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast where people could call in and say, hey Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad Hey Jonas and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas. And I'm C.J. Toledano, and our podcast Point Game is about defying the odds. Like LeBron heading into the playoffs without Luca and Austin Reed. And finding ways to win no matter what. He's the smartest player to ever play the game. His IQ is at a level that we've never seen before. He knows.

Without Luca and Austin Reeves, I got to manipulate the game. We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs. I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup, he has to really guard guys like Nas Reid. He has to guard Julius Randall. And then he has to give us everything he gives us on the night-to-night basis on offense. And when IT's friends stop by, like Quentin Richardson, we dive into some playoff history too. Steve Nass would get that thing.

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It's like he's a regular. Got him in the rotation. Ram Seahawk, that is. That is going to be good. Speaking of good, we talked about this earlier. I actually think if you sized it up right now and I said, who are the best teams at the end of the year in the NFC? I think it's, I think you'd probably say Seahawks one, Rams 2, Chicago Bears 3.

Chicago played really good football. And I, I mean, how excited do you have to be? And Ben Johnson says all the right stuff. he was asked this morning about, you know, the success of season one. Yeah, there is no building off of this. We go back to square one. We're back at the bottom again. And that's really all 32 teams.

If you feel otherwise, you're probably missing the big picture, you know, we're back at, we got to start from scratch. We've got to start from the fundamentals. And so I think more than anything else, they're going to know what they're getting themselves into. And yet we've got to dig a little bit deeper. We've got to work a little bit harder. we've got to give a little bit more if we want to take this thing over the top. You know, we spend so much time, you know, people do, fans do, you know, criticizing players.

Caleb Williams didn't get bigger and stronger and faster. Yet he cut his sacks by 60 percent. His passer rating, passing touchdowns, rushing touchdowns, passing yards, total offense last to sixth. Caleb Williams didn't change. What changed with Caleb Williams? His boss. Here's Ben Johnson talking about Caleb's growth. The things that we highlighted for Caleb to start the season, I did think they improved as the season went along.

You know, we revamped the footwork a little bit last spring, and I think the comfort level grew from that. He certainly got more comfortable with the concepts that we were running over the course of the season. That's something that we can build upon, and yet there's still a lot more that, that we can push through in that regard. And so I'm really encouraged about the steps he took this year. I'm Caleb Williams' number one believer. So is Phil Sims. And the other thing, when you say that, we've got to work in his footwork.

Tom Brady, with six Super Bowls in his pocket, would go on vacation with footballs, called teammates, and work on his footwork. It's like you forget sometimes football, basketball, they're all like golf. You've got to work on that four iron. I don't care if you're Greg Norman or Tiger Woods in your prime. You've got to work at it every day. And I love what Ben Johnson saying, we're back to the bottom.

And you know, Julian Edelman told me this once. It was interesting. He said every single Patriot team, believe it or not, was different. Every camp was different. Some teams were a little young in spots. Some teams were a little old. he told me one of the years I think it was the Atlanta year

they won the Super Bowl he goes it was no fun I think that was it was one of the years may have been a losing Super Bowl year it may have been the year they lost to Philly my battle and I think it's the year they lost to Philly and Nick Foles

and the one Edelman said that that year wasn't a lot of fun and so I like I mean again you're going to have 12 new players remember when Tampa won the Super Bowl was Brady and they brought everybody back and we were like

I don't know if that's what you want to do. You don't want to bring everybody back. You just want to new chemistry. You want to shake things up. People get a little bit comfortable. Everybody makes a little more. Everybody wants a new contract. So when you say, you know, Caleb, it's funny.

I've run into people in Chicago, boy, you're hard on Caleb. And I'm like, well, why wouldn't you be? Brady was hard on Brady. Peyton Manning was hard on himself. Mahomes is hard on Mahomes. If you can't handle media, you get out of the business. Yeah, I mean, these great athletes are hard on themselves. But I love what Ben Johnson says.

We're back to ground zero. And it's actually not a cliche. It's like, you really are. I mean, Detroit, unbeatable disaster. Washington, conference championship, disaster. I mean, seriously. Oh, Denver and Cap Hell playoffs. Oh, Cloud 9, Bonix hurt.

What? What are we doing? Jarrett's then I'm starting. Like, you just, there are no, there are no, even when you're in the middle of a dynasty. The Chiefs, Tyreek Hill, let's go deep. Oh, no Tyreek Hill, still won. Now you think you've solved it, and now it's worse. Now your old line's all banged up.

Every year is you're starting ground zero. But I like starting ground zero with Caleb Williams and those skill players. And that all life. It's a good ground zero to start from. It's a good place to start from. Foundation. See it tomorrow. Hey, guys, it's us.

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What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas. And I'm C.J. Toledano. It's our favorite time of the year on our podcast point game, the playoffs. We're digging into the biggest surprises of the season. And I'm looking back on some of my greatest playoff moments. If we didn't talk ever again, I was funny. You just understood. That's how personal it got.

Wow. Then after that game seven, Marquis come in to you, he's like, you know I love you, dog. You know, it's all love. This was just playoffs. This was just basketball. So listen to Point Game on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Will Ferrell's Big Money Players and IHart Podcast presents soccer moms. So I'm Leanne.

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With all the snacks and drinks. Why did you get hard seltzer instead of beer? They had a bogo. Well, then you got it. Listen to soccer moms on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This week on Crimless, Rory and I welcome a very special guest. When I did podcasts, I wear my sleep masks. I like where this is going.

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