The Herd with Colin Cowherd - The Herd - Hour 3 - Predictions for this Sunday

Episode Date: February 8, 2023

Colin discusses the duo of Sean Payton and Russell Wilson next season Colin gives his Super Bowl predictions    Guest: Kevin ClarkSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information....

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Starting point is 00:02:13 It'll be a Super Bowl set like no other. Fox does it right. First time you've ever been on a remote set for a big, big show. With you, yes. But 2016 Super Bowl in Houston when we were doing Speak for yourself, that was fun. That was a big deal. That set was flimsy.
Starting point is 00:02:31 This set is very... The set in Miami, 2020, I was a guest on the herd. That was fun, right? Pre-COVID, remember that? Yeah, I remember those days as well. Okay, his name is Kevin Clark. He works at the ringer. He does the Slow Newsday videocast. It's funny.
Starting point is 00:02:48 I was watching yesterday as very much getting ready to watch LeBron, and I was checking out all the Super Bowl stuff. And I thought, I'd like to talk to somebody there because I'm there tomorrow. Do you feel the buzz? You know, because Super Bowls are different. Some feel huge. How do you feel about this one? A couple days out.
Starting point is 00:03:10 How do you feel, Keb? There is some buzz. You don't really see it until Thursday and Friday. That's when the fans start getting in. When it's Tuesday and Wednesday, it's really only the locals and the real sickos who want to be here the entire week and the media. And so it's hard to gauge. I would say the fact that both of these teams have been to a Super Bowl in the last five years
Starting point is 00:03:31 lessens the buzz. will never be anything, Colin, like that Eagles Super Bowl a few years ago with Nick Foles one, because there was such a belief that built throughout the week. There was the underdog story. They shouldn't have been there. It was Philly trying to get its first Super Bowl. Nothing will ever be like that. When I talked to Philly people this week, I'm starting to get the sense that Philly is starting to realize that nothing will ever be like it was five years ago. I do think there's some sort of, I do think you can sort of talk about the Eagles and caveat, had the caveat that they just did be
Starting point is 00:04:02 Daniel Jones and a fifth string quarterback. I just talked to Debo Samuel five minutes ago. I asked where he was on the quarterback depth chart. He didn't know. But that was the kind of NFC title game that they just came off of. And so I do think there's maybe a little bit of a lack of buzz only because we've seen these teams before.
Starting point is 00:04:18 I mean, Kyle, you remember at the tail end of the Patriots dynasty, when they would play in a Super Bowl, the get-in price was normally pretty low, unless there was an Eagles-type team, because Patriots fans were been there, done that. These are two teams that have been in the the Super Bowl, and you can't have historic buzz when it's like that.
Starting point is 00:04:35 Well, and that's what's interesting. I mean, we both kind of live through the Patriot Dynasty, and it was very unique because NBA Dynasty's last three to four years, this is a sport where they tackle each other. There's a hard cap, and it lasted 20. I do think Mahomes, because of his really, he's very much Tom in that he sent a message very early to everybody. I'm not going to take the most money. Get me really good players.
Starting point is 00:05:00 And I think smart guys do that. I think Patrick gets the big picture. What if he goes out, though? And it's just ugly. They're starting rookies everywhere. This is stacked Philadelphia roster. And they get rolled. They can't get the ball.
Starting point is 00:05:14 Philadelphia leans on them on that old line. Does it affect the legacy? Do we get into a, in a weird way on today, is that, you know, MJ was way better in the big game. This has got a LeBron feel to it, that we know he's talented. I mean, what if, because I can't see Kansas City rolling Philadelphia, I could see, I can see Philly going downhill. What happens if this goes sideways for Mahomes? Do we view him differently? It's a big question, because part of this is that the Eagles have the third most sacks in history.
Starting point is 00:05:49 Right. And we're not going to look at it. If the front seven gets after Mahomes, and I talked to two people in the last 24 hours, one of whom was Trevor Lawrence saying, Hassan Reddick changes your entire calculus as a quarterback. He's so fast. You don't even know what to do. You're not even processing it the right way. But we're not going to view it if the front seven gets after Mahomes almost. I mean, kind of the brother of the sibling of the Super Bowl a couple of years ago where Mahomes couldn't be upright because of the injuries to the offensive line.
Starting point is 00:06:16 If there's another game like that, we're not going to view it as Mahomes doesn't have enough. We're going to view it as Jalen Hertz beat Patrick Mahomes. That's just how the media narrative is created. So there might be a media narrative that comes out of it. and we start to ask questions, but it would be really hard for me to think about it because the Eagles have a better roster, one through 53.
Starting point is 00:06:37 Hallie Roseman's done a really good job. I talked to Brett Beach about this a couple years ago, and he kind of joked it. He has the easiest and the hardest job in football, the easiest being he has Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reed, but the hardest in the sense that that's not enough. He's got to surround Patrick Mahomes with talent. He does that every single year.
Starting point is 00:06:52 We saw that the Tyreek Hill trade basically didn't matter to the offense. I think the conversation around Patrick Mahomes, as his career progressed is going to be really, really interesting. He took what amounts to a $500 million bargain for a contract, and it's really amazing. And the one thing I will say is that I don't think, even though he's hobbled, even though the chiefs have some injuries, even though, as you alluded to, they have young players,
Starting point is 00:07:14 I don't think he has much of a built-in excuse. When he lost that game against Tampa Bay in Tampa Bay, Deach saw him in the elevator after the game and said, we're going to fix this. We're going to fix this. We're going to rebuild the offensive line. He ended up doing that. What's the narrowing?
Starting point is 00:07:28 of if he loses on Sunday. It will be, rightly or wrongly, the Mahomes was not enough to erase the talent gap between the two rosters, and I believe he should be. Yeah. So I haven't asked you about this, haven't seen you in a while. The Sean Payton Russell Wilson fit is intriguing. We know he'll make them better. You know, the Hackett kind of falls into that group of Freddie Kitchens where he was just a bit
Starting point is 00:07:54 overwhelmed by the job, probably an OC or a position coach. whatever it happens all the time. How do you think it plays? Because it's sound, there's a lot of things I like, but now the GM doesn't have power. Sean reports to the owners. The O-line needs fixing. I mean, he really, Sean was very aggressive when asked about Russell's quarterback coach. He's like, how do you think it looks to us?
Starting point is 00:08:20 What's it going to look like? It's going to look, and I had a conversation about this with someone last night. Sean Payton is going to take the Bill Parcells playbook. Bill Parcells, every place he went after the Giants, he immediately had success, but he also established the tone very early. What I took from the Sean Payton private quarterback coach thing the other day is that Sean Payton is going to establish this is his program, his organization, and it's, you know, sometimes I hear referred to,
Starting point is 00:08:48 voice with Parcells as a benevolent dictatorship, right? Where it's like, we're going to let other guys do their jobs, but we know who's in control here, right? And so I think with Sean Payton, he's going to establish that very early. I think that there's always the Let Russ Cook narrative and all that stuff, and I'm a big Russell Wilson fan over the course of his career. But I think sometimes you need someone to kind of tell you what to do and to put you in position to win.
Starting point is 00:09:12 Pete Carroll, for as much of a players coach as he was, he had a rigid system. He had a structure. You needed that. You can't go full NBA and have a players coach and just kind of roll the ball out and do that kind of thing. And we heard last year there were the reports. So Hackett is giving Russell Wilson a ton of input in the offense.
Starting point is 00:09:29 They're building the offense around Russell Wilson. Well, sometimes players don't know best. Pete Carroll for, and he talked about this during the season, everybody said, oh, Pete Carroll didn't know modern football. Pete Carroll knew how to get the best out of Russell Wilson in most scenarios. I mean, even Russell Wilson has given Brian Schottenheimer, who gets killed on Twitter a lot of credit for his development as a passer. And so the Seahawks did do right by Russ for many,
Starting point is 00:09:53 for many, many years. And what it sounds like is Sean Payton's going to reestablish a system. I think this can work. I think everybody rode off Russell Wilson way too quickly. It was a joke to see people say, oh, well, the dead money's only this. They should cut him. Who are you going to get? Who are you going to get that's better?
Starting point is 00:10:09 And what's amazing to me is if the Broncos didn't have Russell Wilson and Russell Wilson became available, they'd still trade for him. Maybe the price would be different, but that's the kind of team they are. They want to take big swings. I think this is going to work. I think Sean Payton knows how to coach. And I was surprised, frankly, at the amount of people who said that Sean Payton wasn't worth high draft picks. What are you going to do?
Starting point is 00:10:28 Roll the dice for Mike Kafka? Just pay the picks and get Sean Payton in because he knows how to build a system. So I tried to do shows without mentioning Aaron Rogers. He makes it difficult. Very, very difficult. So I am a fan of meditation. I mean, it's very rare when an NFL quarterback talks about a four-day isolation trip. So I think it's more the person saying it.
Starting point is 00:10:54 There's a lot of people that would say that, and I'd be like, oh, I totally get it. People in California go up to Ohio retreats. I totally get it for creatives, right? But it does leave Green Bay because his comment was I'm going to go do this and it will get me closer to a decision. And I thought, you do four days of that. You got to come out with a decision. What do you make of it, how it's viewed by the Packers, the League? What do you make of Aaron in his retreat?
Starting point is 00:11:29 I've spent four days at a time in darkness with the lights out, just trying to drinking beer and playing video games, and I didn't come out with any clarity afterwards. I'll say that much. We can start there. I have some questions about bathroom usage during the four days eating. I have all sorts of follow-up questions for Aaron if I do see him. But again, I probably won't because I'm not in Ohio and all those places.
Starting point is 00:11:48 I'm just here, and I don't think there are any meditation. retreats here in downtown Phoenix. What do I make about it? It's the biggest question, I think, in the NFL right now is how much do you give up for Aaron Rogers? Because I kind of paneled a few people I ran into today. Some are saying they wouldn't give more than a first round pick. Some were saying two first round picks plus maybe even a mid-round pick. I don't know because I think you have to wonder how much is the broken thumb. How much of it is the fact that he's getting up there to the point that you end up with more injuries. It's not just that he had a broken thumb and it'll be 100% fine.
Starting point is 00:12:23 Like, things take longer to heal. You just don't know. I think he was maybe the 11th or 12th best quarterback in the NFL last year. Is that enough to win the New York Jets of Super Bowl? I don't think so. And I don't think Aaron Rogers is a much better quarterback than Jimmy Garoppolo in a vacuum. But I don't think the difference for wins with the Jets is all that much when you consider the difference between those two players.
Starting point is 00:12:43 I also think that basically anybody, except Zach Wilson would have made the playoffs for the Jets last year. And so this some addition by subtraction to the point that I'm sorry, Jay Mack. But no, I really do think that they don't have to sell out to get a superstar quarterback. They just have to get a guy
Starting point is 00:13:00 who's not Zach Wilson. I mean, they can get really, I know this sounds crazy, but they can kind of get a lot of guys who are going to be available and they will have that 10-win, 11-win ceiling to the point that you don't have to mortgage your future for Aaron Rogers is if he comes out of the four-day darkness retreat,
Starting point is 00:13:16 feeling like he wants to join Gangrene. Yeah. By the way, congratulations. Your first child, Teddy. Teddy. And Teddy, by the way, is a Capricorn, so he's going to be driven and willful
Starting point is 00:13:29 and sometimes stubborn. That's Capricorn. So get used to it. Kevin, just get prepared. He's going to have strong opinions, and he's going to pick winners in sports, and he's not going to listen to your opinion. That's what Capricorns are like.
Starting point is 00:13:41 I know I work with one. Joy Taylor was. J-Mac is, oh. So they work hard and he's very driven. But he's going to tell you a thing or two about life, and you're going to have to listen to it. I love that. Thank you, Colin.
Starting point is 00:13:56 What time is his radio role availability? What time is Teddy coming on? I think he's doing a deodorant sponsorship or something. It'll be the best time of your life. Couldn't be happier for you. I appreciate that, Colin. It's very nice to you to say. All right.
Starting point is 00:14:08 Kevin Clark, the Ringer, slow-newsday videocast. Just had a son, Teddy, born in January. So it is the strangest thing. You, Joy, my wife, your wife. Ryan, are you a Capricorn? You know, I always knew. Oh, he's a Pisces. I don't even know what that means.
Starting point is 00:14:25 No, Gemini's are two different people. Gemini, my mom's a Gemini. She watches daily and provide feedback. She had a lot of thoughts on the haircut, a lot of emojis from my own. Alex, by the way, behind the scenes of Capricorn. No way. Yes, he is. Alex, again, has strong opinions, not interested in my feedback.
Starting point is 00:14:42 He's a big hockey fan. He's trying to crowbar. Hockey, NHL. Capricorns, by their nature, are not only like ice with vodka. They're not big hockey people. Ice and vodka? Yeah. That's a Russian drink, isn't it?
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Starting point is 00:17:50 It's happening in a few days. I can feel it now. I can honestly now. After talking to Kevin Clark, you feel? No, no, it's, I went there, I've done the LeBron stuff. I can feel it. I feel like I'm pivoting this moment to football from all the LeBron stuff. Yeah. Unless K.D. or Anthony Davis gets straight. No, then I'll pivot back. Low monkey wrench. Okay. So, regarding the Super Bowl, uh, defensive end, Carlos Dunlap of the Kansas City Chiefs has seen a lot of Patrick Mahomes this season. He believes
Starting point is 00:18:15 Joe Burrow is the only other quarterback in the class of Mahomes. He says, next to Pat Mahomes, who else is there? The future is Joe Burroughs. Colin? I agree. You ready to put Burrough in Mahomes his class? No, but I think he's the only one. I said this. I watched Josh Allen this year, and I came to the conclusion that Burrow is situationally better than Josh Alton. He's better on those third and fourths. He is more accurate than Josh Allen, and I get fewer highs and lows. I mean, literally Burrow had two bad halves of football, week one in the last week. So I believe a big part of being great is consistently great.
Starting point is 00:18:58 In the NBA, Jordan Poole can have a 32-point night and give you six the next night. That's the difference between staff where you're getting 24 minimum almost every night. And so I do believe Mahalms is number one. Burrow, who's not as flashy or athletic, gives you a consistency that is even often better than Mahomes, that puts him too. And then I think Josh Allen has a Big Ben cam quality where he is so uniquely gifted physically. There's nothing else like him. He is, he's the heavyweight champ, you know, without a jab, but he's got the best knockout punch. So I think Josh Allen's three. And then I think it's a bunch of guys we like a lot, but I want to see more W.
Starting point is 00:19:40 like Justin Herbert. Hot take, Justin Herbert will pass Josh Allen by like November next season. I'm telling you, this Kellynne Moore
Starting point is 00:19:47 upgrade is massive. It is. It is. There are things, you're good at predicting stuff. I'm okay at it. You are not the first person
Starting point is 00:19:57 that has said the best move of the year is not Peyton to Denver. It's Kellynne Moore to the Chargers. I had an NFL person I absolutely respect
Starting point is 00:20:07 say, watch the Chargers this year. They'll get rid of the inconstive. The Chargers were a good first half offense and an awful second half. He said he will even it all out. Watch. Because they did like Staley as a defensive guy.
Starting point is 00:20:23 But they don't want him in charge of offense with much of a say. So I think you're on to something. I'm not selling my Josh Allen stock. He's been a guest on the show. But Herbert will go to another level. Exactly. Next up. Speaking of quarterbacks, let's go to the other end of the spectrum.
Starting point is 00:20:37 The New York Giants, they got a couple big decisions to make. this offseason. Sequin Barclay and their quarterback, Daniel Jones. According to Giants legend and Fox's very own Michael Strayhan, New York needs to pay both of them. Oh, boy. And keep him in the fold. Here is Michael Strayhan.
Starting point is 00:20:53 You got to keep Seek Juan. You can see that Daniel Jones is better with him in there. The team is better with him in there. He's a leader in every single way. You have to pay Daniel Jones. That's just the way football works right now. Hardest position to fill, QB. So if you don't keep him, somebody else will get him.
Starting point is 00:21:08 And then what's your next move? guarantee anyone else is going to be great. So I think Daniel did enough to earn himself a contract there in New York. So ask yourself this. Do the Giants need a bunch of players? Yes. If you're the Giants and you draft Bijon Robinson first round Texas running back. Okay. And you could, you don't want to sign these running backs to a second contract. It never works out. Don't fall in love with yesterday, the romance of it. Saquan Barclay has one more big injury. No value.
Starting point is 00:21:46 You move Saquan Barclay after the draft. If you can get Bijon Robinson, you get him. That frees up cap space because Daniel Jones needs help. He's not elevating. Daniel Jones needs dudes. So what do you, let's talk, let's put some years on it. Two years for Daniel Jones, three, franchise tag? I don't think he has a market.
Starting point is 00:22:06 I think if I could get Brian Dayball with him, I'd take. both. You probably have to pay him three years, a lot of money up front, so you can get out of it after two years. But again, people romanticize, nobody's making the Super Bowl because of a running back. So don't pay, ask Dallas. Don't pay running back. You got to draft a running back every year. So you want to draft Bijan over, say, franchise tag, Sequan for one more year? I would get Daniel Jones. By the way, fresh. They have no receivers. We should add that. Okay. So, so I can go buy one because I'm not paying a run. running back. Nothing against Sequin.
Starting point is 00:22:43 Show me all the second contracts to running backs that work. People fall in love with players, fall in like with them. If you can get that running back and then you move Sequant, somebody will take Seaquin for a second or third. That's more starters. The defense is fine. They need another corner because they let go of Bradbury, who's a really good player. I'm very curious how the New York fan base would react. You know what they do?
Starting point is 00:23:07 moved off of Danes. For 10 years, this team stunked, and they filled that stadium. What would they think? If they won 12 games, they think this is awesome. Love you, Sequin. We'll cheer you when you come back as a member of the... They're not winning 12 games. But that being said, if Daible can fix Daniel Jones,
Starting point is 00:23:26 can he do even more with a more talented, better quarterback? I think you've got to try to level up. Tell me the market. Brady's done. Aaron's not going there. Garoppolo can't stay healthy. What's the market? Carr at 38 million a year or Daniel Jones at 30.
Starting point is 00:23:40 I would do Derek Carr in a heartbeat, but I don't think they're going to. I think the Mara family wants. Listen, here's the thing. Daniel Jones made the playoffs and won a game. You're not going to get the Maras off him. And the argument is O line outside of left tackle was shaky and the receiving core was bad. And they let up Evan Ingrams now in Jacksonville. So you say, he won a playoff game in a good division and he got nothing to work with.
Starting point is 00:24:03 You could easily, if I own the Giants, talk myself into, We're going to take this draft, get one corner, rest is offense, spend some money on offense. I'm just suggesting you have to consider moving Sequin drafting a running back. You can't pay these guys three and four more. Just not the way. Do you remember, I think it was Tyrod Taylor got to the playoffs, I think in Miami. Was it Buffalo? Buffalo.
Starting point is 00:24:28 And everybody was like, hey, Tyrod Taylor got us to the playoffs. Like, we can sign this guy to a multi-year deal. And it was like, it was like, come on. Tyrod Taylor didn't get you to the playoffs. Well, I'll wrap with this. Did Daniel Jones get the Giants to the playoffs? No, if you take out two games against the Vikings, the worst defense in the league that fire their defensive coordinator.
Starting point is 00:24:50 Look at his numbers. There you go. It's pretty bleak. He gives you about 14 touchdown passes a year. Final story is back to the NBA because the drama never stops with LeBron's Lakers. Okay? So we talked earlier about. the Anthony Davis sitting on the bench, the um, ornery, if you will, post-game press conference.
Starting point is 00:25:08 But now, Adrian Woldjurowski is reporting about 40 minutes ago that Darvin Ham and Russell Westbrook had a blow up in the locker room at halftime. Apparently, Russ was being subbed out and lingered on the floor too long. I don't know what that means. But they went to the locker room, got into it, and then they squashed it and went out in the second half, and Russ was atrocious. I don't want to hear he had 14 points in the fourth quarter. No, he was bad.
Starting point is 00:25:35 At a 106 all game, he threw an awful pass that was stolen for a dunk. He was terrible down the stretch. I don't care about the points. But Colin, this is interesting. LeBron is celebrating a massive moment in NBA history. Ante Davis has ticked off, and Russell Westbrook is getting in an argument with the coach. What is happening in Lakerland? I don't have an answer.
Starting point is 00:25:55 It is something I've thought about. Is it because I don't know? I mean, Russell can get rigid sometimes, so by the way, a reportedly Darvinham and Russell, you know, high-fived or something at the end. Yeah, of course. You got to put on a brave face. You know, in a game, guys, you know, get worked up. Russell's very intense. I'll defend Russell on this. He's an intense guy.
Starting point is 00:26:18 Well, whatever. He's a very intense guy. But it is interesting. Why is Russell so agitated? And why is Anthony Davis last night literally last place on Earth he wanted to be was that game? It was weird. He was not even, like, I don't want to say he wasn't trying, but it didn't look like a max effort from AD. You wonder, a lot of the, LeBron's being celebrated this week, as he should be.
Starting point is 00:26:39 Yeah. All the talk is, can we get Russ out of town? And Anthony Davis is always hurt. And trade deadline. It's hard, though. Rick Bucher said it. Is it wearing on those two guys? Because you know what?
Starting point is 00:26:51 Nobody's blaming Lonnie Walker. Nobody's blaming Austin Reeves. The blame goes on Westbrook and AD. LeBron's not getting blamed. Well, he doesn't get blamed. He should not get blamed. I know. No, I mean, listen, sometimes we don't have an answer for something, but the video seems substantial.
Starting point is 00:27:08 It does seem substantial to me. I noticed it last night, and I'm like, that is weird. He didn't even clap. Listen, if I was Anthony Davis, I would know everybody in the arena has a camera on. I'd be aware of it, and I'd fake it. Literally, the only guy without a camera was Phil Knight of Nike. I'm sure you saw the picture. Every single person behind the basket's holding a phone, except for Phil Knight who's just taking it all in.
Starting point is 00:27:29 And like, it wasn't that Anthony was even hiding his annoyance. It was disdain. Exactly. He didn't even try to fake it. He was so angry. There's a quote somewhere out there, believe none of what you hear and half of what you see. That's good.
Starting point is 00:27:46 That's very mysterious. What am I supposed to take? Like, I still don't get the Ante-Davis. All these Laker Jibronis are coming at me. He was upset that he was subbed out. No. It was way more than that. He was subbed out with 30 seconds before the record.
Starting point is 00:27:57 No, he was mad in the post game. Yeah. Something. The entire game, he did not play like Anthony Davis. You've got to stay off that phone. All those guys are going to drive you crazy. No, no, no. I read these guys and laugh at them.
Starting point is 00:28:09 I'm getting good text messages from Arizona, lining up some parties for you and I. No. They're going to be at bed by 8. They're going to have drinks ready for us tonight. I mean, people are fired up to get you on the sauce. No. Only sauce will be barbecue sauce. I did my chicken wings into it and go to bed.
Starting point is 00:28:25 J-Mack with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping you. Bye. The Herd Live. Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the IHeart Radio app. Hey, what's up, everybody? It's me, three-time Pro Bowl of LaVarrington, and I couldn't be more excited to announce a new podcast called Up on Game. What is Up on Game, you ask?
Starting point is 00:28:50 Along with my fellow Pro Bowler, T.J. Hushman Zada and Super Bowl champion. Yep, that's right. Plexico Burris. You can only name a show. with that type of talent on it. Up on game. We're going to be sharing our real life experiences, loaded with teachable moments. Listen to Up on Game with me, LaVar Arrington, T.J.
Starting point is 00:29:11 Hushmanzada, and Plexico Burris on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast from. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it. It's unleashing human potential.
Starting point is 00:29:31 Either way, the podcast, Superhuman, documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A win is a win. A win is a win.
Starting point is 00:29:53 I don't care which I'm saying. Yep, that's me. Clever Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes,
Starting point is 00:30:17 creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment, and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast. It's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So, if you've ever supported me or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be.
Starting point is 00:30:43 Listen to The Clifford Show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. Do you remember when Diana Ross double-tap little Kim's boobs at the VMAs? Or when Kanye said that George Bush didn't like black people. I know what you're thinking. What the hell does George Bush got to do with a little camp? Well, you can find out on the Look Back at it podcast. I'm Sam J.
Starting point is 00:31:08 And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick it here, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. Including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill, waxing all about crack in the 80s. To be clear, 84 is big to me, not just because of crack. I'm down to talk about crack on day, but just so you're just so you. y'all know. I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed
Starting point is 00:31:30 crack. So I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have AIDS on the table right now. Now you're finishing that sentence. And yes, I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Really? Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history. Listen to look back at it on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Discover.com slash redeem rewards. Redeem your rewards for cash. Any any time. Pretty amazing. All right, we'll have a limited version of the Magic 8-8 ball. I don't always agree with the Magic 8 ball, Jason, but Super Bowl Magic 8-Ball. You're ready to go? Sure. Some interesting questions. You want to throw them to me? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's start with the Magic
Starting point is 00:32:13 Eighth Ball Super Bowl edition. The Chiefs will score more than 24 points versus the Eagles defense. Says it is certain. I don't feel as strongly about it. They've scored 25 points in nine of their 13 playoff games with Mahomes. They are the number one scoring offense. It said it is certain. Well, I bet the over, so I would agree. Patrick Mahomes will have more passing yards than Jalen Hertz has total yards. Signs point to yes. Yes, because Hertz is only throwing for 196 yards per game since the shoulder injury. Did you know that? I didn't know that. Also, if you like Philly, Kansas Trails has to pass late. Mahomes has greater passing yards. What does the Magic Gateball say about A.J. Brown will lead all pass catchers in receiving yards.
Starting point is 00:33:07 Magic eight ball. Yes. Yes. He's complained recently about not getting the ball. They'll probably try to engineer some offense for him. He was also the Eagles League receiver. The chiefs are also potentially down a corner. That one points to yes. By the way, I was going to say I bet A.J. Brown to win MVP. Indeed, the cornerback cleared concussion protocol. Expect it to practice today. We'll see what happens. Next up, the Eagles will have more rushing touchdowns
Starting point is 00:33:35 than passing touchdowns. Magic gateball says, yes. Jalen Hertz has not had a touchdown pass in three of his last four starts. That kind of caught you off guard, didn't it?
Starting point is 00:33:52 It's kind of interesting. He hasn't been 100%. Oh, well, be as it may. Says the guy who likes the Chiefs now. Okay, next up. If the Eagles win, Jalen Hertz will win Super Bowl MVP. Well, most likely. The Eagles are 16 and 1 with Hertz starting this year and 0 and 2 without him.
Starting point is 00:34:12 So when they have him upright, they win and he'll touch the ball the most. Probably have some rushing yards too. Magic 8-Ball should have an easy one with this. If the Chiefs win, Patrick Mahomes will win Super Bowl MVP. Oh, yeah, it is certain. That's not even close. First of all, he got the MVP at the Super Bowl against the Niners, and he had a passer rating of 76.
Starting point is 00:34:32 So because he can be so spectacular, he didn't have to play great. If the Chiefs winning, he has a couple of big plays, you'll give Patrick the MVP. All right. What does a Magic 8-Ball say about this will be Andy Reid's last game as a head coach? There are rumors out there. My sources, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:34:51 Listen, they have the highest winning percentage by any quarterback coach duo in the Super Bowl era. So you're going to let this thing play out. You're not going to leave yet. Although I do think Andy does not coach in his 70s. I told you I had somebody that I trust tell me that there was 5% chance that Andy Reid wins a Super Bowl, 5 to 10% chance and says, health, I'm exhausted, I'm mid-60s, I'm done. All right. Next up, Nick Siriani, get to another Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:35:25 after this year. Hasn't played in his first, but maybe the Magic 8 ball knows. Signs point to yes. Listen, Jalen Hertz, first or second best quarterback in the NFC, they return everybody because he's not paid big money yet. I think Dallas goes backwards. Daniel Jones a threat. Aaron Rogers could leave. I know. NFC's soft, but Eagles are getting old in the trenches, both sides of the line getting a little up there and age. That's fair. That's fair. And they've been one of the healthiest teams in the league this year. That's paramount. All right.
Starting point is 00:35:56 Next up, Jalen Hertz will finish his career with the Eagles. Sorry. Oh, disturbing. Don't count on it. I mean, what if he gets hurt again? There could be some concerns that he's not a long-term fix. Possibly. And finally, Patrick Mahomes will finish his career with the Kansas City Chiefs.
Starting point is 00:36:17 Does the Magic 8thall have anything on that? Oh, it is certain. Well, first of all, they're not overly reliant on his rush. ability, so he's mostly going to stay healthy. Andy Reed's going to make the ending. It's got a Steph Curry feel to it. He'll know the time. He's not going to do a Brady and play to 45.
Starting point is 00:36:35 He's going to have a lot of awards. He's going to have a big family, and he'll step out at the right time. Magic Gateball, Super Bowl edition. All right, we'll be it on our big, burly, strong beams everywhere set tomorrow in Arizona. Be safe. We'll see you tomorrow. Live in L.A. It's been the herd.
Starting point is 00:36:52 Another podcast from some SNL, late-night. comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and Friends, me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, S&L's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and Friends on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged.
Starting point is 00:37:27 It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard Radio app,
Starting point is 00:37:49 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what I'm saying. Yep, that's me. Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, my basketball and college football journey,
Starting point is 00:38:03 or my career in sports media. Well, now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifers Show. This is a place for raw, unfills of conversations with athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. So let's get to it.
Starting point is 00:38:17 Listen to the Clifford show on the I-Hard Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast, And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok's podcast network on TikTok. This is an IHeart podcast, guaranteed human.

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