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I can't. I love that read. I don't. I love the company. So Emmanuel Sanders, he had 12. hatches. Yeah. The 11th year, total pro.

And he was in Denver, and then he fit right into the 49ers. And that Super Bowl team, then he goes to, you know, he's played with Big Ben, Peyton Manning, Jimmy Garoppolo, and Drew Breeze. You could do worse. You could do worse than Emmanuel is joining us. Two-time Pro Bowler? By the way, he was also drafted by the Steelers. No team in the NFL in my life.

And I'm in my mid-50s, has drafted wide receivers better than the Pittsburgh. Steelers. I don't know what it is, man, but everybody, they just got that Claypool kid. Now they got another kid that can play. So let me ask you this. You've been in this league for over decade. Twelve catches on Monday. When you have that kind of output, when are you not sore? Like, can you play Thursday and feel ready to go? I mean, if I had to get my body ready to go Thursday, I definitely can go. I think the most important thing is after a game, no matter if you have 12 catches or not,

even though the more catches and the more hits you take, the worse and worse and worse your body feels, I think the most important thing is making sure that you wake up the next day and go and get a workout in and flush the lactic acid out of your body. So that's what I try to do. By the way, there's a dog in the background. Do you want to make sure the dog's okay?

It's not in danger. anything, is it? Yeah. Could you give me a second? Sure. Go ahead. Go ahead. All right.

Sorry. It's okay, Emmanuel. Go ahead. Go ahead. Do this. It's okay. People, listen, we do this on our show.

I got two dogs. So I'm totally okay with the dog thing. All right. There's Emmanuel Sanders coming back. There we go. I got two dogs. My dogs bark all the time. Yeah, we've done this more than one.

You're not the first athlete that's had dogs that bark. So when you play, it's really interesting because you play with Peyton, you play with Ben, you play with Breeze. These are all Hall of Fame guys. Let's talk about the line of scrimmage. Did one of them audible more? Does one of them rely more on gut instinct? Like, give me the differences, Ben to Peyton and Drew. I think Peyton was definitely an audible guy. We went an up-tempo type offense. So Payton was always checking in and out of things. I think Ben, Ben, playing with him, it was fun as well. He's he's very sneaky with his signs.

Like, you're not going to know what he's doing, so you've got to keep your eyes on him. They had, like, a lot of different ways to, you know, change up to play in which, like, teams didn't know and then playing with Drew, it's just executing at a high level, right? You take a guy who, you know, after I scored a touchdown, he walks up to me and he goes, he's teaching me the route. I remember the game versus the Lions,

I ended up catching like a 13-yard dig, and I thought he was going to walk up and be like good catch. And he goes, hey, look, so next time, like, get a little bit deeper on that, so then I can hit you on the window. So he always wants to execute a high level. But all three of them, you know why they win because every single day they come to work. And from a mental standpoint, they got the game down back. Sean Payton as a coach, people talk about him as a play designer. He's obviously very special. What is Sean?

I mean, Mike Tomlin was a defensive coach. coach. But Sean Payton is known for offense. Is he more demanding? Is it more academic? Is it harder? Like, what's Sean Peyton the difference between him and, say, at Tomlin? What's being demanded of you? Yeah, I think no matter what coach you have, I think they look at how they can do better on that side of the ball better. And, you know, I've had defensive coordinators who, you know, they come in and the offense might not be playing well, and they'll be like the office is doing okay, but defensively, we got to do this, this, this, this, this, this.

And so, you know, Sean Payton will come in. And if, like, you know, the game is close or something happened, he's always going to point to the receivers and be like the receivers got to do this. So the quarterback has to do that. And so, you know, he's an offensive-minded guy. So obviously he's looking at it from that perspective. But, yeah, a majority of head coaches,

they rarely get on the opposite side of the ball. they always try to come at the side of the ball today, familiar with coaching, those are the players that get attacked. So, you know, at the end of the day, I've been enjoying just being around, Sean Payton, just his personality, man, he's definitely a players coach. He's funny.

And one thing about him is he loves to put up points. And I love his pre-game speech is how he comes in and just breaks down how we can put up, you know, 40, 50 points on the team. And that's always our goal going into games. You left the Steelers, and you went to Denver and you won a Super Bowl. And then you went to San Francisco and you got to a Super Bowl.

And you could have gone to other places and you went to New Orleans. So clearly, Emmanuel, when you have a choice, you look at the coach and you look at the situation. I said this morning, I think Levian Bell would still be a top five running back. I think he should not have gone to the Jets. There's instability. They had a crappy offensive line. And I look at you, and I want you to tell me, because you keep ending up in like slightly better places. And tell me what you go through.

Your agent calls you. And he said, okay, Emmanuel, I got three teams that like you. What do you think about? Because you've made a lot of good choices in your career on where to go. Yeah. Ultimately, you know, I think that when you speak about longevity in this league, at some point, you've got to go to organizations who win. winning keeps you relevant in this league. But the moment that you start losing,

and especially you take a guy like Levyon Bell with the salary cap, he has teams are ready to let you go. And that's just how this league goes. And so, you know, I've always been very, like, tuned in on where I go. I remember I left Steelers. And, you know, I had an opportunity to go to a couple of teams who were offering more money. I was like, I don't know because, you know, I play a business.

where, yeah, I can make a difference, but I can't make a huge, huge difference like the quarterback position. So you always got to look at that. And so I looked at it like if I go there, you know, and even though I might produce or I might not produce because it's based off the offensive coordinator and the offense, you know, I can be in the league another two years. But if I go to Denver and play with Payne Manning and I know what they're going to do, you know, even after I, even when Peyton retires, I'm going to have the yards to go to a different team. And what team could that be? And so now, I'm out here with New Orleans and, you know, they're able to showcase my talents because I'm with

Sean Payton and people are seeing my talents. And so, you know, I feel like, you know, if I stay healthy and I be who I am in this office, you know, it'll lead to some another. That's great. And so I've always been mindful of that. And, you know, it's a blessing as well to be able to do that because, you know, I started my career off with the Pittsburgh Steelers with being Robertsburg. You know, went to play with Peyton and now playing with Drew Brees. And I had a privilege to play with Jimmy Garland. Cropolo as well. Yeah. By the way, Jimmy struggled last week.

He's got a bad foot and he wasn't pushing off on it and he was pretty bad. It was just a bad Sunday for him. Obviously, Peyton, Ben, and Breeze to this point in their careers or at a different classification than Jimmy Gropolo. He gets a lot of crap and a lot of heat. He gets a lot of heat. What does Jimmy Garoppolo, in your opinion, do really well that you liked? And what does he need to work on? I mean, Jimmy stands in a pocket.

Man, he stands in a pocket. You know, and he's going to deliver the football. I love the way that he comes to work every single day. I mean, we're talking about a guy who, you know, I don't know why they're so hard on it because, I mean, last year was literally his first year starting, and he took us all the way to the Super Bowl. And they could say, yeah, we had a run game,

but it was a couple games where Jimmy just went crazy. Yeah. He managed a game. He played well. And so, you know, it's crazy how one play could determine, you know, if you still like somebody or not. And, you know, Jimmy goes, And we wins that Super Bowl.

They can't really say anything about Jimmy G anymore. But the fact that, you know, he's lost of Super Bowl, now they're going to continue these talks. I don't even know where these talks even come from because, you know, I don't get it because, you know, Jimmy G, if you look at his win percentage, his win percentage is ridiculous, you know? And so he's coming off a bad game and who hasn't come off a bad game.

Michael Jordan has had bad games. LeBron James has had bad games. At the end of the day, it's a bad game. But what is it? I mean, another. the opportunities coming up this Sunday. And if he goes out at balls, everybody's going to be like, oh, Jimmy G. Yeah, Jimmy G.

So it's crazy how, you know, it's sways like this throughout the season. But at the end of the day, he has just continuously being him because I got a lot of respect for him in his game and the San Francisco 90, 49ers organization. Emmanuel Sanders joining us over a decade in the NFL, a Super Bowl champ two-time pro Boulder and a really savvy veteran who does his business well as well. He knows where to go and what quarterbacks to end up in with, And I look at COVID, and I looked at the NBA bubble, and it was tough on players. And this year you didn't have an OTA, and he didn't have preseason.

And a lot of guys are getting dinged up. I just want you to tell the audience, how has COVID affected you mentally, physically? Because you're, you had 12 catches Monday. You're doing great with it. But I'm sure not every teammate is doing great with it. Has it been the most difficult September, early October of your career? Yeah, it definitely has. I mean, you know, coming to a new city, not having a house, been in almost two months in a hotel, not seeing your family, trying to find a house out here,

just everything in general, right, just trying to get situated. And then, yeah, not knowing if it's safe or not, right? Like, it's a risk every day that I go out and bringing this to my family and to the team. And so, you know, but, you know, I'm not. I look at the situation and I say like I'm blessed. You know, it's a lot of people who are going through way worse situation than me. You know, someone once said, I once thought I had it bad because I had no shoes until I saw a man who had no feet, right? And so that's my perspective in this whole COVID.

It's just make it through and don't do any complaining. And, you know, and coming to New Orleans and they have to learn, you know, the office with Sean Payton and Drew, that was definitely hard too. But now I think like everything is starting to settle in any room. family here and the house that we have. I think that's the reason why I'm playing some of my best ball because I kind of got it all out the way. I feel like I handled it in a positive

manner instead of looking at the negatives of it. Well, you're a pro. You're a total pro. And any team be lucky to have you? You're going to get some Hall of Fame votes, and you've got a lot of football left, by the way. You keep making 12 catches. You're going to find yourself in this league for a long time. Emmanuel, I love having you on the show before and now.

Thank you again. I appreciate you Colin. All right. Emmanuel Sanders, great NFL player. And again, And I love bringing on guys who've been around the league. Danny Green's going to be guys pro. He goes to New Orleans. He told me off there. He couldn't find a house for two months.

He got COVID going on. It's one of the most complicated offenses. He got no preseason. You got no OTAs. And he's just, here we go. He just makes it work. And love having him on. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encouraged.

It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's super. Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment, and the next we'll talk about life, mental health,

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A lot of dealing with that as perspective. You can be a problem person or a solution person. A lubricator or agitator? Really help you get you through. Speaking of a lubricator agitator, let's talk about the New York Jets. Releasing Levyon Bell after failing to find a trade partner for the running back, according to Fox Fed. The Bears are the favorite to sign him at plus $3.50.

Now, that's an interesting place to go. They have the Montgomery kid. They need another offensive. Now Levian's a good receiver. They could use another back. That's an interesting place. Matt Nagy's also clever, so Matt Nagy, give him a couple weeks, can figure out how to use him. I like him with the Bears.

The Steelers have the second best odds at plus 500. Then the Browns at plus 650. The Chiefs at plus 700. And the Bucks at plus 750. Bucks don't need him. They got Ronald Jones and Leonard Fernette and Shady. The Steelers is very interesting. I don't know.

They have Snell. They would go back there. He only played in two games this season, obviously due to the hamstring injury at 19 carries for 74 yards. I think Levion Bell has a lot of football left to play. I think he was the best he could be in New York, considering the circumstances. He was always a good soldier.

He was always talked about in trade conversations. Players like him. Darnold likes him. Players like him. I think he should stay with the Steelers. I think the Steelers was the best place for him. Yeah. Everything that Emmanuel was just talking about, where you are matters.

Sometimes a little bit more money seems like the way to go in that situation. And all of us want to get paid what we're worth and, you know, you want to cash in. I'd like to see what Matt Nagy does with him in Chicago. That's an interesting place to go. Well, at this Wednesday's press conference, Adam Gase was asked if he agreed with the perception of the team misused. Bell on offense. And Gase said it was irrelevance at this point. Well, it may be relevant if he goes to Chicago and has a great.

eight last seven eight games. It won't be so irrelevant. That quote could turn on you very quickly. Yeah. So the Braves continue to roll through the postseason, but the Dodgers kept it close in game two of the NLCS. Atlanta was up seven nothing when the Dodgers started to get the offense going with the three-run homer from Corey Seeger in the seventh. And with a score of eight to three in the bottom of the ninth, the Dodgers came all the way back within one, with a runner on third and win two out. Yeah. But grounded out to end the game and fall to O two in the series. game three is tonight at 5 Eastern on FS1. And they are allowing fans into these games. So between the little piped-in crowd noise and between the fake fans and some of the fans,

it's good, it's a good watch. I think we at Fox do an amazing job of creating an atmosphere. Unbelievable. Joe Buck called a home run the other day. And I was like, felt like seventh game of the World Series in a PAC Stadium. Could not tell. We're the best. We are. We're very good.

Our production here is very good. It really is. It's so good. It's not affected my viewing experience. at all. I had this exact conversation this morning with everybody on the team. I'm like, it's nothing against the fans. I was watching the Raiders Chiefs. And there was, you know, there's some fans sprinkled in. And it might as well

been the, I could not, I forget, I thought the NFL was going to look weird. But you know what? You put fake fans in the end zone. You sprinkle a few fans around. I watched the Texas Oklahoma game. And I'm like, Joel and I were just talking about it after the interview. And, you know, I was asking him how it was there. and he was like, you know, wish, obviously, because of such an amazing game, that it was a full house. And I was like, honestly, watching from home, it felt like a full house. It did.

I didn't even think about it. Obviously, we all know that fans aren't there, and we, of course, want everything to get back to normal, and fans are a huge part of the game. But as far as viewership goes, I mean... I'm chilling. It all started with the MLS in Orlando. And I remember watching the first couple of nights,

and I'm like, well, I'm okay with this. Yeah, MLS really was the test. Yeah. Because they were the first to come back, And it was like, all right, how's this going to look? But you know what they did in Orlando? It's funny. What they did in Orlando is they had these big boards on the side with nothing on them.

And they put like ads on them. So if you were there, it looked odd. But on television, it's like what a local weatherman does. They're standing behind a green screen. And that's what the MLS did, I was told. And so on television, but I imagine if you were there, it just looked like giant blank boards everywhere. Even the NBA. I had no idea what to aesthetically expect.

But home run. After one or two games, I was used to it, and then I never thought about it again. And then they had some... It was just a new normal. Yeah. Yeah. Finally, speaking of the NBA, Kevin Durant's an already dominant Golden State team. He joined an already dominant Golden State team in 2016, won two championships.

He's been criticized for taking the easy road to his titles, but he doesn't see it that way and is still defending his decision to join the Warriors. No. What does that even mean? I go through every rep at 100% speed. You know, I can understand if I didn't play well at all, but I played the way. the best that I can play in both finals for that team. So I felt like I got up every day and held myself to a championship elite player standard. And I reached it 98% of the time in practice and games and shoot around.

Yeah, I earned that. I'm so tired of this conversation. I really am. I understand he joined the Warriors and they were good before he got there. But like, cry about it. Okay, the Warriors drafted that team. They're just better at putting together teams than you. are. Would you and I be better off if we work for a company that didn't have a history of doing

really good television? Why do we choose to work here? Because they have a history of doing good TV. When people in sports choose better TV, when Robinson Canoe left the Mariners, he left the Yankees for the Mariners. Now, then I was like, that's not smart, okay? Because that one team wins a bunch of the World Series titles, and the Air Team finishes in third a lot. Like, I'll criticize a guy if they take money to go to a bad organization. But if you're going to to elevate, and you've already been a winner, but you're like, I want to play with this roster will make me more efficient. I'll have your back a thousand and a thousand times. You know, Kevin Durant could have not gone there and never won a championship in this career.

And then everyone would be talking about how Grady is, but he's never won a championship. By the way, he left that team, went to Brooklyn, okay? So now he has to overcome that situation, which is a good situation, but he's now responsible for getting them to a finals and winning a championship. It's like you don't have it hard enough in life already. You got to add extra obstacles to reach greatness. Like, miss me with it. And as he said, and he's right, he earned it. He was great.

It's not like they carried him to those finals. Good stuff. Joy with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Herd Lai News. Danny Green of the Lakers. He's got another one. Two years, two titles.

He's joining us next live. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the IHeard Radio. app. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential.

Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A win is a win. A win is a win.

I don't care what I'm saying. Yep, that's me, Cliver Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated.

One week I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment. And the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast. It's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So if you've ever supported me or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be. Listen to the Clifford Show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast,

or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at the time. TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. Do you remember when Diana Ross double-tapped Little Kim's boobs at the VMAs? Or when Kanye said that George Bush didn't like black people. I know what you're thinking. What the hell does George Bush got to do a little Kim? Well, you can find out on the Look Back at it podcast.

I'm Sam J. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick a here, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. Including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill, waxing all about crack in the 80s. To be clear, 84 is big to me not just because of crack. I'm down to talk about crack all day, but just so y'all know. I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack. So I'm starting to see that there's a through line.

We also have AIDS on the table right now. Thank you finishing that sentence. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Really? Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast. or wherever you get your podcasts.

Welcome to my new podcast, Learn the Hard Way with me, your host, and your favorite therapist, Keer Games. And in recognition of Mental Health Awareness Month, I'm bringing over a decade of my own experience in the mental health field and conversations with so many incredible guests. I'm talking, Tripp Fontaine, Ryan Clark. Sometimes when we're in the pursuit of the thing, we get so wrapped up in the chase that we don't realize that we are in possession of the thing. And we're still chasing it.

and we don't know when we've done enough. Because people scoreboard watch. Life becomes about wins and losses. Steve Burns, Dustin Ross, because you find it important to be a good person while you hear on earth, or are you a good person because you're afraid? Because that's two different intentions, bro.

Absolutely. And that's two different levels of trust. I want you to just really be a good person. Join me, Kear Gaines, as we have real conversations about healing, growth, fatherhood, pressure, and purpose on my new podcast, learn the hard way. Open your free,

iHeartRadio app search learn the hard way and listen now. Danny Green won a title last year with the Raptors in Kauai. He picked up the phone. His agent said, go out to L.A. with the Lakers and LeBron. Second time, by the way, playing with LeBron. He played in Cleveland with him once, right, early on. And so Danny goes to the Lakers. And in the strangest NBA season ever, he won another championship. He is nice enough to join us live now. Inside the Green Room is his podcast, the Danny Green podcast. So let's start with this. Last year, you're in Canada and you win a championship and then you go out to Los Angeles, very, very glitzy.

And then all of a sudden the pandemic hits and you're in the bubble. My gut feeling for you guy, you tell me, was this the hardest season of your life because of the pandemic in the bubble? For sure. For me, personally, I would have to say because mentally and emotionally it's the toughness. It's just a roller coaster. Every, obviously, ride, every journey has a roller coaster in its own sense. And the season is usually the length. This is being an extra longer season and having a pandemic with the passing of so many

greats that we've had, of course, Cold and so many other celebrities that we've had in our area and David Stern. It's been a rough mentally emotionally and being in a bubble, being that type of atmosphere, trying to stay locked in. I mean, obviously physically, it drains you a little bit, but more mentally emotionally, I think this roller coaster ride has been the craziest of the one I've ever been on for any season, for any year that I've been a part of. So I think it's the toughest for me, for sure.

Danny, the Lakers did not play great in the bubble the first couple of weeks. Then whatever happened, it clicked. What happened? What changed it? I agree. I still think that our team, as deep as we are and the talent that we have, we can still play better. I think we had great spurts.

We had great glimpses of what we can do. But, as it the bubble for us, it seemed like we would take a while to get a rhythm. to figure it out. We still didn't play or shoot great throughout most of that season, the whole bubble series. So, yeah, I believe that so we can reach another level.

But yeah, it took us while. I think we just mentally, the chess match, our coaching staff, I have to give them full credit. And obviously, Bron and Rondo, those are, they start with the leading of our basketball, the two basketball geniuses,

Jared Dudley as well. They just led to, I guess, our group with figuring out mentally of how to, you know, beat teams. playing chess. But if we were just out of to play to our highest level talent-wise, I think we could have still been a lot better.

But we got it done in an unfortunate circumstance. And I think it was more so just because our coaching staff and our mental capacity of IQ, high- IQ players we have on our team. Yeah, well, I totally agree. Rondo is a really unique player. So game five, you have an open three, you miss it. You've made a lot of jumpers in your career. And everybody's banging on Danny Green

and Danny Green can't hit a shot. and Arabah, Danny Green. And I'm sitting there thinking, that guy's got to go back to his hotel room in Orlando and listen to all that nonsense. Did it wear on you? Because you came out in game six and you were hot. So it obviously didn't affect you.

But what was that like to be Danny Green for about 24 hours? I mean, each game is different in the playoffs. You know, you can't just say, because they won this game, the momentum is with them. You know, you refresh, you circle back, you play another game and figure it out. But, yeah, that 24 hours was tough. But because I've been in L.A. all year,

I've been conditioned to hear. hearing that stuff all year. So it was nothing new to me. I wasn't surprised. I wasn't taking too much on it. I wasn't harping on it. I just took it as I said, I did miss a shot.

I definitely could shoot better. Could have made that one. Could a shot better at all playoff, all bubble. I know that, but I know that there was another game we had an opportunity in that, you know, this team,

not myself alone, but this team is, you know, very resilient. You know, we have some good character guys, some guys that fight through some mental, tough, emotional tough situations, and our champions.

They have championship DNA. So I wasn't shaking or worried by any means for our group or myself. I knew that we would bounce back. I know myself would bounce back. And at the day, regardless of him hit shots or not, I know I'm going to play hard and leave it all out on the floor. I knew my teams would do the same. Anthony Davis and LeBron got along the minute this team was connected. Joey and I kept saying the chemistry on this team, like the first week was great.

And what is it about AD and LeBron? What is it about their personalities that it just seems like, and honestly, it looks like their family. I think that chemistry, that relationship started before they even, A.D. even got here, which made it easier. They were friends before they got here. They were close. And obviously them being in the same city and living together, it became family.

But because of that friendship, because that relationship beforehand, it made it easier for them to just, you know, gel. And it made everybody for us to follow suit easier. We had so many different veterans on our team that knew their role, accepted role, embraced our roles. That it made it easy for everybody kind of just fall into place. It started with Doe, Dwight, Jared Dudley, all those guys, Javel McGee, all those guys that have so many years in this league have played for so many years and been to those final stages or been in the playoffs to understand what those two guys needed, what we needed to do, what we needed to be

in order to get this thing done. Yeah, Danny Green is joining us, started 21 playoff games for the Lakers. You look at the bubble. I mean, listen, I've been to Disney World before, but even on a vacation after about six days, I'm done with it. Were there moments, Danny, where you were like, man, I am just, I'm just done with this thing. Like, were there days that was hard to get up and get motivated to play? For sure, plenty of moments, especially early on where we didn't have our families that.

The first two months, we weren't having a fan. And I felt bad for the coaches because they weren't able to see their wives and kids and their families until it was all done. So definitely the first two months, it was definitely draining on us, not to see our family, not having our kids or dogs, whatever we used to have it around us, our support system. And toward the end, it's like, man, where the social media is getting to you, and you're trying to just want to get out. And you feel, you can see the light end of the tunnel. But, you know, you have to get the job done. You have to get that one more win, that two more wins.

So toward the end, I feel like guys, it was kind of really getting to them. You could tell the air was changing. There was, I think, a storm coming. It was, I guess, the rain season down there. So the air was kind of getting a little foggy for most guys and guys were just getting antsy to get the hell out of there and get home. So, you know, the last, those last, that last week there was the first couple weeks, I guess after the first month before our families got there, and the last couple

weeks, the last two weeks or so guys were just ready to really get home. I think we were more focused on getting home than actually achieving the goal. It's like, all right, we got to get this one. We got to get home. The ring and the trophy is great, but we're like, yo, I want to get home. But yeah, that's definitely the reward winning the trophy and having a ring and celebrating for a city. But for us, it was just be able to get out of that bubble and be with our families and friends and be able to just relax a little bit and get some fresh air. But it was all worth it, man. End of the day. We know it's going to be a tolling thing on our minds and our bodies. But, you know, we went through it. Guys stayed locked in, stayed focused. And we got the, we achieved the

goal. We got the job done. And now we're able to relax and be home. And I don't think guys even need to celebrate. I think just being home and being at their homes or just celebrating by relaxing is good enough for us at all. We don't even need to party. We just need to just be at home. Yeah. So he won a championship, obviously, with the Spurs. That's where it all. started. Then it was the Raptors, and now it's Los Angeles. He signed a two-year deal with the Lakers for a lot of dough. And he is living an NBA dream, a young guy who's worked hard, played defense, hit shots. I don't know if I believe in luck and stuff, but listen, I think we've all had good fortune in life. And it seems like your career's getting better. We've got a minute left. The longer you play,

the better it gets. Christmas every day, man. I'm very lucky. But he said luck doesn't happen by itself. You do have to work hard. I did have to put a lot of hours in a lot blood, sweat, and tears into this game. But I've been very fortunate, man, to play for a lot of great organizations, a lot of great teams, alongside some great players and coaches. So I can't be thankful enough for the situations, opportunities that God has given me, and, you know, this league has given me. So thank you for having me on the show and everything.

And I said, I'm happy to be in L.A., just relaxing with my family, and happy to be a part of his organization and also a part of history. So I'll win another championship here in Los Angeles. Okay, it's called Inside the Green Room. It's Danny Green's podcast. what a crazy nutty year. Congrats to you and your family. And thank you.

We'll call you again to have you on. Thanks, man. Thank you, guys. Appreciate you so much. Yeah. Listen, he had Popovich, and then he got Nick Nurse, and then he got Frank Vogel. And I thought Vogel had a good, I thought they did a really good job, really good job with this team. The chemistry, you put a bunch of stars together and old veterans, and they got habits, and it all worked.

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