The Herd with Colin Cowherd - The Herd - Hour 3 - Quarterback performances

Episode Date: August 15, 2023

Fox Sports NFL analyst Bucky Brooks joins the show in studio to breakdown the quarterback performances we saw from the first week of preseason gamesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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or stream us live every day on the IHart Radio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. Fox Sports Radio. Well, he does Jags preseason games. He's a former scout for the Seahawks and Panthers, a former player. Defensive back for the Packers, Jags, Chiefs, Bill, Raiders, Bucky Brooks, Fox Sports NFL analyst joins us time to time. Good to have him in today. Okay.

So I think we both thought Bryce Young was the best quarterback available in the draft, albeit on the small side. Looked a little overwhelmed. What do I make of his first appearance? No, I mean, I think it's tough. It's tough for all rookie quarterbacks making that debut because no matter how good you were in college, the pro game is so much different. The speed of the game, the athleticism of the defenders, the complexities of the game. And even though you normally get vanilla ice cream, the first preseason game, is different.

And so it takes a while for young quarterbacks to kind of understand the cadence and the rhythm of the game. I will say, by and large, he was fine. He got hit too much. And some of that is on Frank Reich and the staff to make sure he's protect. but overall, he had commanded the hotel. He managed the game the way that you would like to see. Week two, you would like to see more plays, more production, see the performance improve.

C.J. Stroud, bad pick, Patriots, doesn't matter. I mean, look, it all matters, but the only way that you can kind of learn what you can do is in these games, you've got to stress yourself. The thing that you would worry about, if you're the Texans, why did you have the intercession? Are you standing down the receiver? do you feel like you don't know what's going on?

And so we have seen the New England Pages do it in the regular season time and time again with rookie quarterbacks. They can confuse them. They throw a bunch of different things. Preseason, they typically kind of play it to the vest, but you don't like him staring down and having some issues when it comes to connecting the receivers. But all of the rookie quarterbacks had issues. And so it's a common theme that we're seeing this preseason.

No one looked great as a record, particularly one of the receivers. the high guys. DTR looked okay, but the high picks, they haven't looked great. The, you know, the thing with Anthony Richardson is when you're figuring out how to play quarterback, it really helps if you're 6-5-250.

And I watch them and I'm like, he looks physically confident. He may struggle, but I just play him. Well, I mean, they are. I mean, I guess they're announcing that they're going to make him the starter. He's going into the season. The thing about Anthony Richardson starter, I can understand.

Fourth overall, the owner was very on board with him playing and playing right away. But he hasn't played a lot of football. Right. And so I compare this to, it could kind of change the way that we evaluate quarterbacks going forward because he's more of the prototype. He is more of an NBA scouting Janus. When you scouted Janus, it was about the attributes, the traits before it was about the game. And then the game developed and it came and he became an MVP.

So what you're hoping with Richardson is he has all the things that you look for physically in a quarterback. Mentally, he has those things too. But can he put it together? He's never done it throughout his career, not in high school, not in college. So what you're asking Shane Stuyken and that staff to teach this super athlete to be a quarterback, we'll see if he's able to get it done. So, you know, the old feeling is a GM, sometimes you have to get rid of the GM, not just the coach, because a GM will be loyal to his picks.

He won't just move off a pick. So I think San Francisco needs to just say, hey, there's no value in Trey Lance not playing. He's so raw. He needs reps. Purdy's more accurate. Sam's more athletic. We got our guys. I watched him this week.

And Emmanuel Ocho said something to me yesterday before he went on the air. It's that every time the ball is snapped because he's played so little football, it's like he's seeing everything for the first time. He looks just kind of overwhelmed with it. When I watched him, you know, as a layman, I'm just like, it shouldn't be this hard. Some of these throws are just bad into people. What do you make at, Trey? A couple of things going all the way back.

So what happened with Trey Lans and it's not his fault? Trey Lans played at a smaller school. Trey Lans didn't play a lot of football. Play one season, played a game in his final season. Then he goes to the pros. He's drafted third overall. And with that comes lofty expectations. When you take someone that high, much like we're talking about Anthony Richardson,

you typically don't take projects into top five because top five player, you're talking about someone that you can envision being a multiple pro bowl player, someone that hits the ground running, and they make an immediate impact. Because he hasn't played enough, he is seeing it for the first time.

He does look overwhelmed, and he's lost his confidence along the way, because no matter how confident in the kid, they hear the noise. He hears all the outside noise about him. He also feels threatened by Brock Purdy being able to jump in there and have success,

immediately for the Niners. And so if you're the Niners, there's nothing you really can do. It's too much money tied up in the Lance. You can't cut him. No one is really going to trade you and give you fair value based on what you gave up to get him. And so your best bet is to see if you can get him in the lab and continue to develop him. And maybe he turns out to be something. But right now you're stuck.

It is what it is when it comes to the traffic. And you hope that you've been able to erase a mistake with maybe Brock Purdy or Sam Donald playing better. Wouldn't I just argue, whenever you make a mistake or I've made a mistake in like any of business, my takeaway is generally, okay, what did I learn from, you know, a business mistake with a volume or in a real estate transaction? Okay, what did I learn? And isn't just the mistake here? The Niners were a win now team and he was a potentially good in the future quarterback and the timelines were off.

I mean, that certainly could be a part of it. I mean, I think they are win now. He is more of a developmental prospect. And so you have two competing agendas. It's almost like Steph Curry and Jonathan Kaminga. Yeah, I mean, there will be great. Curry is now. There is that.

And so sometimes that's the divide that you have between the head coach and a general manager. Yes. Head coach is right now. I want it right now. I need a guy that can play right away. General manager is a and our long-term interests. We want to develop and make sure that we're good for the long-term forever. And so you have some of those things.

But I will say we have seen quarterbacks and the number of games they play in college. It's a huge tale. Like you look at Brock Purdy. He played a ton of games. Can he picket? Can he picket played a lot? Look at for the Cleveland Browns, DTR, DTR, Drow Thompson and Robert. Four year starter, at UCLA, significant game.

So when you see him going to the preseason, it doesn't look like it's overwhelming. And so Bill Parcell is just to have a theory a long time ago. You can't really use it now. about number of games started, graduate, and those things, maybe we're seeing you need an experienced player, a player who's played a ton of collegiate games. So now he has a better chance of hitting the ground running when he enters the league. Yeah, DTRs had two good games.

Yes. He looked good. I didn't know if he could throw at the NFL level. I knew he was an athlete. I knew he could figure out offenses. But now we got to remember, he only played one year quarterback in high school. So one year of quarterback. Oh, because he was behind like a high league.

He was behind tape Martell at Bishop. So he only played one year quarterback in high school. So all he learned about playing quarterback really happened at college. So he's a four or five year player. So you only have six years of maybe quarterback experience. And so now he gets to the pros. The game is slowing down. You combine that with the athleticism that he displays.

And look, he's a really good dude. Like he's beginning to kind of figure it out. Okay, so this comes off as harsh. But there was a play. So I've always made this argument. What makes Mahomes and Michael Jordan great? isn't just the spectacular. Michael scored 30 a game.

24 were on mid-range jumpers. And then three times a night, you're like, I've never seen that. If Mahomes completes 30 passes, 26 are random. Four are in a tight window. And so you've got to hit the layups. Mahomes doesn't miss layups.

One of the things that turn me off, Zach Wilson, stuff in the flat, missing layups. Come on, dude, you're in the NFL. So Jordan Love, year four, They play the Bengals. I watched the replay again last night. There's a play to Musgrave.

Clean pocket. This is a layup, and he misses him by a mile. And I know it's one play. Come on, man, there's no – that is a practice throw. And that's not close. It's not. And you will be on them. And look, I come from playing up in Green Bay with Mike Homer and coaching.

There was an adage. They talked about the ball doesn't hit the ground. Like, you talk about great players doing the ordinary things. exceptionally well, but that's how it should operate. When you're dealing with pros and you have high standards in those things, the ball shouldn't hit the ground. So when you talk about those layups, yes, he needs to convert those layups. You give him a little bit of a pass because he's still trying to figure his way out.

But he had the best protection of the weekend. Yeah, but he has to knock those down because the great players do the ordinary things exceptionally well. But then they give you a little extra as well. He has to be able to knock those things down because that's a part of it. He has to be able to continue to hunt and chase completions, stacked together eight, nine, ten completions because then you make the defense change. So with Justin Fields, I had said before, his first two years,

he was a bit of a YouTube quarterback. If you just spliced up, Darnold had a quality like this. If he just spliced up the highlights, you're like, man. But it's like, then you look at the completion percentage. But there is something about Justin Fields that I didn't know until this weekend. Warren Sharp does analytics that the bears were last in the league last year in yards after the catch

didn't have the personnel. Kansas City was number one. So even though Mahomes is great, Andy's dialing up stuff, bubble screen screens. So it's not all on Mahomes. It's one of been my knocks on Buffalo. It's just too much on Josh Allen's plate.

And so Justin Fields this weekend had some bubble screens and everybody's like, well, they're bubble screens and my takeaway. Well, that's what Kansas City does. Yes. You've got to make it easier on the guy. Yes, so, okay, I see it every week dealing with Trevor Lawrence. Trevor Lawrence played in an offense at Clemson that featured a lot of bubble screens.

So you know what Doug Peterson does? Travis A-T-N. He puts a lot of bubble screens in the thing because they're layups. And for Justin Fields, who played in a spread offense at Ohio State and those things, it's like a basketball player hitting a handful of layups. You hit a couple layups early. It becomes a lot easier to hit mid-range and three-point shots. It's the confidence factor.

And so you want to bake in some gimmie completions for your quarterback, because now it allows him to get comfortable. He gets into a rhythm. Now he gets into a rhythm. He's now more willing to push the ball down the field. And so, yes, the bear should do that. The whole goal, I know we criticize quarterback. If I'm the offensive coordinator,

my goal is to make the game as easy for the quarterback as possible. That's what it should be. So I know we want to see all these high level of difficulty throws. No, easy completion, stringing them together. But then it's on the quarterback to be able to make some of those later in games. By the way, the Jags. So Calvin Ridley had a gambling issue. They took him out. He's back.

You've done the Jags preseason games. I've just seen little bits and pieces. Ridley's a remarkable player. Give me a comp. A lot of our audience doesn't watch Calvin Ridley. He's one of those guys you're going to be like Christian Kirk's good. Calvin Ridley's ridiculous. What's his comp?

Let's see. Without going crazy, the stuff that everyone gets excited about with Justin Jefferson, Calvin Ridley can easily do the same things. Create separation. Be a number one receiver do it. I think what a lot of people have forgotten about Kevin really, he jumped in and had to fill big shoes in Atlanta when Julio Jones was out. That's right. He became the number one receiver head over 1,300 yards. So he is a legitimate dude. He is a top five dude when he is

healthy and ready. Being away from the game for two years, one for gambling and then he has some personal issues that he had to resolve. Has we forgotten about him. But we will quickly be reminded about how good he is because he is different. And I like Christian Kirk and Zay Jones and those other guys, but this is a legitimate number one. And so what he's going to do, he's not only going to set the table for those other guys, but now when we talk about Trevor Lawrence making the jump from good to great, most great quarterbacks have a legitimate number one. He now has a legitimate number one.

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They have a legendary coach and one legendary weapon. I mean, Jimmy Johnson, Troy Aikman. Like Don Cori-El for Dan Fouts and Justin Jefferson, John Jefferson and Kellyn Winslow. Yeah, they have it. It has to be that. You have to have an A-level player around him. Everyone will talk about Pat Mahomes and they remove Tyree Kilby.

Yeah, but Travis Kelsey is a Hall of Fame player. you have to have at least one of those guys around, not only because it gives him a comfort zone, but it also takes away coverage from everybody else. So now those other guys get one-on-one coverage and they can win those opportunities because the ball is right in the window. Okay, I forgot to ask this,

and I kind of beat up on him before the draft, and he didn't have a good draft because he and his girlfriend were on TV and he moved out of the first round. But I thought Will Levis comes across a little cocky, lacks a little self-awareness, big arm, but makes weird throws. Like you can't see the field.

It's really odd. Like, mom went to Yale. Big arm, four point student. And then sometimes you're like, bro, can you see the field? There's a little Jay Cutler where there's elements of him I really like. And then in the end, I'm like, I don't know if I like him, the dude. Don't want to make it personal. What do you see?

He has a lot of work to do. The quarterback position is an instinctive position. you have to have instincts and awareness and a feel. And the great ones, man, they just make it look easy because it comes to it. They understand situation and circumstance. They make the right plays time and time again. For him, everything is slow when it comes to the processing and the lack of accuracy and those things. Big, strong kid can wrong, can do all those things.

But it's about instinct. That is not, that is in high school throw. That is awful. I mean, that is what it is. As you dig deeper, there would be some to say, he started originally at Penn State and couldn't beat out Clifford. He couldn't beat out the kid that the Green Bay Packers took in the fifth round. He couldn't beat him out.

And so there's some of that to that. And so we'll see. It's only a preseason game. But yes, it has to be more natural. You're hoping that he can work on it. But it wasn't a great start. I mean, that's a bad. And the other thing is, I mean, look at this throw.

The other thing is, and I made this comment to a very respectful. the GM that you like. And then I talk to a coach about this. Tell me the last great quarterback that was ripped. He doesn't look fluid. It's very jammed up. You want everybody on bands?

You don't want them power cleaning and squatting and... Look at Aaron Rogers' arm. Where's the muscle definition? Aaron's... Aaron's not... I mean, it's rare. It's rare. So it's that thing. It's rare that you have the quarterback who has, like, the best body in the locker. It's not... It's uncommon.

It's uncommon. It's not a thing. And I don't know, like, I'm not a quarterback. I can't tell you from a mechanic standpoint, are they tighter or those things? But it's uncommon that that quarterback looks like a dude that could play another position. That's all we're saying. It's true. There's something to it. All right. It's one of my theories.

No abs on my quarterback. Oh, I mean, no, we don't want them like skinny fat, but we would like him, we'd like him fit. We just don't want them bulky. He can come with me. He can come take some yoga class with me. We can do all that other stuff. He can be pliable and all that. But we don't need them in the way of them pushing all the way. Thank you.

Bucky Brooks, great to seeing you. J-Mack with the news. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. Trevor Lawrence, quickly becoming one of the better quarterbacks in the league. Jags head coach Doug Peterson spoke about one very important trait that makes Lawrence so special. Great quarterbacks that I've either played with.

or we've watched in the NFL have all had that great ability to make others better and and really, you know, rise, bring the talent around him up. And he's one of those guys, you know, and he's not, listen, he's not demanding or, you know, pounding his fist on the table, nothing like that. But just conversations you see with guys and how, you know, he's willing to learn. That's the leadership part that I'm encouraged with and the dialogue that he has. So I've been around him three times. I've been in his conversation. I talked to him, I think once or twice, comes off as so much older than he is.

Comes off as a 40-year-old. Like there's no high school hairy stuff. Like he's a complete adult. High school. I mean, he's no, you know, hat on backwards. I'm the coolest guy. None of that. This guy has been great forever.

He's got inner scoreboard confidence, total adult, deep voice. When you're around him, all the priorities. Wife, family, faith, football, all locked in. Big family guy. But when you meet him, you would be shocked at his age. He looks useful, but he comes across in my two minutes talking to him. it's noticeable. His presence is incredibly adult.

I'm a big fan. I don't know if I'm a fan of the Jags in the opener. I don't like that game at all. I'm taking any in the points. Home divisional dogs in week one, you've got to go that way. Indy's now starting Anthony Richardson against it. And as if you didn't need any more, week two, Trevor Lawrence versus Kansas City at home rematch at the playoff game.

This is my upset of the weekend. So my up, my, I can tell you my blazing five, Colts, and then the Bills, the favorite to beat the Jets. Oh my gosh. Jets have a lot of moving parts. Yeah, Dalvin Cook moving on into New York City. Darn right, they got moving parts. Moving on up. Let's go now to, oh, geez, we got to talk about Daniel Jones. He's the latest quarterback to turn down an opportunity from Netflix.

He confirmed that he was approached about appearing on season two of quarterback, but said, no thank you. Would he have been, he would have been, he would he have been the Marriota or the Cousins? He would have been the cousins. Oh. Well, here's the thing with Daniel. He's really private and really quiet. He's just not, I mean, I've been told this, I was told this by Golden Tate yesterday.

And Golden Tate talked about him on the air and off. And he just said he's really a very private person. So he would not be an interesting guy. I think Kirk Cousins has got nerd swag. Mahalms is wildly interesting and Marriota's a good kid. If you told me three quarterbacks to do this with next year, I would do Russell Wilson,

because I think this thing's going to be turbulent. That's fascinating. I would do... I think we'd probably agree. Sean Payton would mix that. Okay. I'm just saying if I was Netflix, who would I approach?

Russell Wilson and Denver, I would. Will Levis? Oh, stop. I want to see this thing. What, a backup or third string guy? Well, a guy. with quite an ego, beautiful girlfriend. You know, they might do Ryan Tannahill, who has an attractive wife,

and he's like... He's just... At the end of his run. So, I mean, I think Josh Allen would be great. Josh would be my star. He's on the fence, right? Yeah, he would be my star. Have we heard any confirmations, by the way?

For next year, no. Well, I mean, they're starting filming week one. Josh Allen, Russell, Will Levis. Herbert's too boring. He's just a nice kid. He doesn't want the publicity. Daniel Jones is not that interesting. Listen, Tua has a lot going on.

That's not a terrible. Tua's not bad. He's a good kid. But again, he's very kind of religious, kind of quiet, understated, very humble. You're not getting a lot of juice because Tua is such a good kid. I think Jared Goss is my guess. Somebody said in my ear, Baker Mayfield, but I kind of feel like we've been there done that. Like, we know the story.

Baker would love that. Well, you know, some more merch on that. I think with a conclusion, we feel like we've been, we've gone through that. You know, another one, if you couldn't get Russell Wilson, Matt Stafford. Like, could be his last year, living on the beach in L.A., he may retire. I like, I want one of the stories to be a story that we do not know a conclusion with. Is John Watson? Yeah, I'm not into that at all.

Kenny Pickett's not going to do it. Right? Mike Tomlin, he wouldn't want the cameras in there. Some options. I don't know how long this series goes. Like, a lot of people have turned it down. Yeah. Jail and Hurt said no.

Yeah. All right, final story. Hey, this is interesting today. Leo Messi and Inter-Miami face the Philadelphia Union today. 7 o'clock Eastern, 4 o'clock Pacific. I know you will be firing up the Apple TV app to watch this. He's going like a goal and a half a game, isn't he? He is unbelievable.

So while I was on vacation, the only two times I went on my phone to watch something on TV was Messies two games. The comeback against Dallas. They were down 4-2 with like 25 minutes left. What does it say, though, for the MLS? that Old Messi is a machine and dominating the league. Listen, old Messi? He was the best player at the World Cup seven months ago, eight months ago.

All right, I'm just asking a question. He's not that old. No, I mean, he is old, but he's great. I mean. But here's the thing. If he was doing this in Saudi Arabia, I don't think anybody would care. It's happening here. People are fascinated. The game sold out in eight minutes, according to one report.

I got a buddy who's going, and he said, the Philadelphia Union are putting it out to all their season ticket holders. Please don't sell your tickets. We don't want a Miami crowd because you could fetch your tickets. $1,500 of tickets. I mean, I'm going to watch parts of this tonight. I have a busy afternoon, but I'll watch parts of this because of Messi. Of course. Messi is coming out to L.A.

L.A.F.C. versus Messi. So we get Taylor Swift and Messi in September. Let's just say the McIntyre family is efforting tickets as we speak. I got to get to that. LAFC is awesome. Messi is a legend. Have you ever been to an LAFC game? I've been to the state.

But it was for the All-Star game. Awesome experience. The vibes are just off the charts. These MLS stadiums that seat like somewhere between like 26 and 30. And the beer gardens, the end zone, the chanting, it feels very European. It's a very young, fun, Uber to the game crowd. It's really fun. They've made the stadium smaller.

It's not like an NFL stadium where you like. No, no, no, or baseball stadiums where it's all empty. No, it's like these are like 26,000. And they're packed and they feel very European. It's really fun. Orlando, Kansas City. Atlanta packs there. Remember, Messi was the last place team when he joined Inter Miami.

They haven't lost. They were the worst team in the league, I thought. Yeah. And now they're in the semifinals. This should be a good game. Philadelphia is no joke. They're one of the best teams in the MLS. My guess is the messy street comes to an end here.

I think the union gets messy. Boom. You're writing headlines now. All right, J-Mack with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Hurd-Lie News. How do you own the day?

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To be clear, 84 is big to me, not just because of crack. I'm down to talk about crack on day, but yeah, yeah, literally. But just so y'all know. I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack. So I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have AIDS on the table right now. Thank you for finishing that sentence. I don't think there's a more important year for black people.

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The grades for the preseason. Now, there's a lot of backup offensive linemen, but I think we can make some comparative statements, and they'll be fairly accurate. Okay. If you say so, let's start with what grade you would give to Russell Wilson after one preseason game. B, he had the most drives.

Remember, he got sacked more than any quarterback last year. He had 13 pass attempts. He didn't have a ton of time when he was particularly. He was 5 of 5. New system. O-line didn't help. Five of five with time, Russell Wilson, a B. File it away, Mike McGlenshy, their new big signing.

Did not play anything. We'll see. What great would you give Derek Carr of the Saints? I'd give him an A. Again, new coach, new system. Didn't face any pressure in his eight dropbacks. So he had a lot of time. But he did complete 75% of his throws.

And he only did that over 70% one time. last season. So I give him credit. It's a defensive coach, a new system. He didn't face any really crucial pressure, but he was very successful, very comfortable. Let's get to your BFF. What grade would you give Baker Mayfield? A-minus. I thought he did very well. New guy in town, didn't have Mike Evans or Chris Godwin, did not play. Better than Kyle Trask was six of ten. I thought this was his best throw, one of them. Nice throw in between a bunch of Steelers. Also, you're playing Pittsburgh, well-schooled, lots of talent. So Baker Mayfield gets a an A-minus. You said better than Kyle Trask.

Your high school tape is better than Caldranc. Okay. What grade would you give Anthony Richardson of the Colts? Okay, C-plus, bad interception on his third dropback, but he did face the bills, and he did have a really nice throw down the field to Alec Pierce that was dropped, a 30-yarder. C-plus,

bad pick, but I like what I saw? All right, we don't want to go too hard on it, but what great would you give Tray Lance? C-minus. He moves well, but he was sacked four times on four. pressures. He's not as athletic as I think everybody was hoping for. This is just a bad throw. He should have thrown two picks. But it's not a disaster that he moves. He's big. He's a power thrower. But it's just, it looks like he's a bit overwhelmed in the pocket. Here's another

really bad throw. Let's get to your favorite Packers quarterback. Jordan Love. Incomplete. Got to give him an incomplete. He averaged 4.6 yards per attempt. No, Starting quarterback in the NFL last year, average less than six yards an attempt. He missed badly on the Musgrave throw, but it was only one bad miss. But again, they're just babysitting him. It's like 4.6 yards an attempt. Throw the ball. Come on.

Let's get to Bryce Young, who was on his back because the Jets kept hammering away at him. How would you grade out Bryce Young? I give him a C-plus because I like under total duress. Three of his seven dropbacks running for his life. But I will say this, he saw the field. with no time. He looks around the field. I think he's accurate.

It's just he was overwhelmed. The Jets, defensive front's real. Stetson Bennett of the Rams. Let's go. Stetson Bennett. He played a lot. Yeah. I'll go C-minus.

He had a 16-place, 75-yard touchdown drive. Now, he almost threw three near picks. Only three? So he was all over the place. But I don't think their backups, I'm not sure, are better than Georgia starters. Now, they're probably, all I'm going to say is when you go from Georgia for three years to that Ram team without Aaron Donald and Tyler Higbee, I don't think Cam Acres played Cooper Cup. I mean, they were on third string guys. I heard Bennett has an offer from Goldman Sachs.

Maybe he should consider that if this Rams thing doesn't work out in the free season. How would you grade Sam Hall of Washington Commandos? I'd give him a B, a solid B, a 119 passer rating, defensive coach. I mean, we don't know exactly what we're going to get from Sam Hal. New ownership, defensive coach, Eric B. Enamee, he had three drives. He outplayed, it says here, Jacoby Brissette. Woo. Feel the excitement.

Let's wrap up with one of the more exciting quarterbacks in the preseason. DTR, baby, Dorian Thompson, Robinson of the Brown. Well, he played a lot of years and got a lot of snaps at UC. LA, technically not his debut. He played in the Hall of Fame game, but he was an A. I thought he looked good. Three scoring drives, seven drives this season. He's got three scoring drives.

81% completion rate. Again, like a Kenny Pickett or a Brock Purdy, he's played a ton of college football. They just announced he's starting the next game. Yeah. He's a good backup to Deshaun Watson because he can move. He's a kid that can move around. He's probably played more football in the last several years than Deshawn Watson. so he looks more than capable.

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