The Herd with Colin Cowherd - The Herd-HOUR-3-Quarterbacks, Cowboys-Seahawks

Episode Date: September 24, 2020

The Cowboys-Seahawks game will most likely be high scoringColin explains why QBs and coaches should present themselves a certain wayGuests: P.J. Fleck, Tony Boselli Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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First, the 49ers take on the Giants or other regional action. Then DAC and Z, we'll lead the Cowboys against Russell Wilson and the Seahawks in America's Game of the Week. Check local listings for the games in your area or watch it on the Fox Sports app. And make sure you get your super six picks in before kickoff Sunday for your chance to win Terry Bradshaw's. $250,000. And for top stories, scores, and more go to the Fox Sports app. Colin, give us your winner and final score for Cowboys Seahawks. That's the tough one.

Yeah, it'll be high scoring. 3427 Seattle. Neither team has a pass rush. It's hard to be a good defense with no pass rush. Raiders, I like them, but they have no pass rush. And it's amazing how good your secondary looks when you have a pass rush. It's amazing how good your corners get when they have. It definitely does.

You've got to cover for 2.7 seconds, not 4.3. P.J. Fleck is a remarkable young coach. And you get this about every decade. You'll find one or two of these young guys. And then they're buried in the Midwest. And all of a sudden they go to the Big Ten. You're like, who's that guy? And Minnesota did not have a long history of being dramatic college football.

And then PJ Fleck arrived. And they got good fast and exciting fast. And now college football has thrown a big curve to all these coaches. As the season starts in a month, they haven't hit yet. They're trying to get, you know, the cheap testing in so they can test all their players and get immediate results. And PJ Fleck, the hot young college football coach, one of the really interesting, fascinating guys in this sport joins us. Fourth year at Minnesota, 23 and 15. So let's, you know, it's funny.

When I watch you, you got a lot of energy. You are just jumping through my television set. And I think to myself, who is this guy's mentor? Who is his idol? Who was your guy? Were you a beau? Were you a Woody? Where did you get the inspiration? When you get to a dark time in your life and you know that you lose a recruit, you lose a game, who do you go back to? Who's PJ Flex mentor in this stuff? That's a great question, Callum. Well, first of all, you got to know that I was an elementary school teacher and have an elementary education degree before I even got into professional football and then obviously get into coaching. but it really dates back to a few guys. Jim Tressel is really the guy that first took a chance on me,

and I was a GA at Ohio State during the 2006 run where we lost to Florida in the national championship. And I still remember going through that year going, boy, this coaching thing is not that hard. I mean, you show up. You're unfeated. You're playing the game of the century. You win.

And then you go get beat by Florida. But there were so many lessons Coach Tressel taught me of how to care for the complete person in this profession, not just the football player, but academically, athletically, socially, and spiritually. And then when you look at Mike Nolan, who was my head coach when I played for the San Francisco 49ers, who also thought that I should be able to get into coaching. And if it wasn't for those two guys, I wouldn't be where I am today.

And then Greg Sheato kind of helped me with college and in the pros. And here we are today. You know, one of the reasons, I don't know much about COVID. I wear a mask. But the one thing I said that I was rooting for college football is there is no Joe Burrow if he didn't play last year. He probably goes undrafted. That you often recruit young men who come from tough environments. You can literally change their life.

And if we would not have played college football, let's be honest. After about 20 guys, PJ in the first round of the draft, most of these guys played their way into getting drafted in the second, third, fourth round. You literally can change lives. And there was a point a month ago. We didn't know three weeks ago we were going to have big. 10 football. How is it landing for you that you want to be respectful to COVID and the dangers of it, but no football, there's a lot of kids that need it?

Well, there's a lot of kids that need it. You know, this is their way to be able to, one, get an education paid for, one, get a bachelor's, sometimes get a master's. We have some kids getting their doctorate degree that if it wasn't for football, they wouldn't have those opportunities. But we've stressed to our team. We're a proactive football team, not a reactive football team. This isn't about just because COVID-19 came up. You have to have contingency plans upon contingency plans in all areas of these young people's lives. I mean, here they are the one normal thing they've all had in their life that they all been able to schedule their whole life around was football. Then football was taken away from them. They left us for three, four months,

and then you get them all back together. You're playing. You're not playing. You're not playing. and by the way, there's a national pandemic going on with testing and everything else that we have. So it really is, I'm really thankful that we do have football back in the mix, but I'm even more thankful because it's a safe environment for our young people to be in as they continue to play football and go towards their dreams of playing in the National Football League as well or in the professional world. Your two-time Mac-10, Mac coach of the year, Big Ten coach of the year, and this is not meant, I'm asking this respectfully because you're an unbelievable coach. But have you ever looked across the sideline as a young coach and thought,

I'm coaching against Urban Meyer. I'm coaching against Jim Harbaugh, you know, a guy that was in the Super Bowl. Have you ever had one of those moments as a young coach and thought, I am in the Big Ten? I'm on national television. I mean, six years ago, PJ, that may have been a dream. You're living a life, a young coach, mostly never getting. Well, I am living my dream. I tell our team that all the time and our staff. My job as a coach

is to make everybody else's dreams come true because mine has already come true. I don't come from a long line of lineage of coaches. My dad killed bug for a living. My mom's a teacher's aide. We have no coaching in our background. It was all about education. My sister's a kindergarten teacher. My mom was a special education assistant and I got into the elementary school teaching. really ancient Rome on that side is where I have a specialty. So when you start to think about how I got started and where I was, I'm incredibly thankful for everything that I've been able to get. But I've looked across in the Mac, looking at Frank Solich.

These people had no idea probably who I even was at 31, 32 years old in the Mac, getting a chance to coach against Urban Meyer when I was at Western Michigan. And even when we get to Minnesota, you're across from James Franklin, I think is one of the best coaches in America. You get a chance to be against Gus Malzahn and the Outback Bowl and be able to coach against those guys. And for someone who comes not from the coaching tree of so many others, I take a lot of pride into who raised me in the profession.

You know, I wear a tie on the sideline, not for me, not to be looked at, but because Mike Nolan wore a tie on the sideline, who's one of my biggest influences, and then Jim Tressel wore a tie on the sideline, who's my biggest influences. And it's my way to be able to thank every single person. person who made me me because if it wasn't for them, I wouldn't be in the position that I am. And they put those, put me in those positions. And I think not even just looking across the

island, I remember I was a GA at Ohio State looking next to me and seeing Jim Tressel saying, I'm actually on this guy's staff. So it's always been fun. I'm very appreciative for where I am. And I have an amazing staff around me that are able to make the success possible at times. So it's interesting. And I had said, when I remember years and year, I mean, this is, I'm dating myself, but I remember when Urban Meyer went to Utah and Oregon, he beat Oregon and Cal, Utah did.

And Oregon was pretty good. They had Mike Bellotti, they were winning games. And I remember telling my friends, I said, I don't know who this guy is with a different name, but that dude can coach. He's got two star players and he's beaten people with three and four star players. So you have now twice

gone into a program and very quickly turned it around. And this is really a business question. as much as it is a football question. So when you go into a culture, like Minnesota football, that didn't have, you know, that's not Alabama, give me two things. How do you turn around a business that doesn't have a winning culture?

And not only did you do it, you did it quickly. Yeah, two things. One, you never sacrifice what you really want down the road for what you want immediately right now. That's very difficult to do in our profession. We've won where we've been because we've done it, with a lot of high school players. We've played and have been in year twos of programs.

We're the youngest team in America, but it was necessary to have the success down the road. And the second thing is you win with people, period. We don't get all the four star, five stars. I think in the Auburn game, they had 54 stars, and we had five. But we call ourselves Howe University. And it's the how of a person that makes them really special. It's their heart.

It's their spirit. It's their unconquerable will. It's their crack on the shoulder, or not just a little chip. It's finding a way to constantly give your people an advantage, being proactive, and really getting yourself around a really positive environment where you can find a way to be able to grow in that environment every single day, fail, grow, and want to come back the next day to do it all over again.

So that's what we've been able to do, but people is the biggest thing. We have incredible people inside our organization. We have an incredible culture with our road-the-boat culture or never give up mantra. and again, it might be a little bit different. It might be maybe not what everybody does, but it's our way. And it's the only way I know. And we're really happy with where we're at and where our programs headed as well. PJ Fleck, Minnesota football coach.

By the way, you said your dad killed bugs. Give me a little more on that. What's that story? Terminix. He was a Terminix, man. He went there and made sure you didn't have all those creepy crawlers in the house. He worked for AT&T prior to that, too. So he did a lot of things.

He's a hard-working man, blue collar. I love that. I love your story. I think your energy's infectious. You're incredibly easy to root for. Okay, folks, their season starts. They're hosting Michigan. That's about 30 days from now, right?

At home against Michigan in 30 days. They were 11 and 2 last year. They beat Hubbard in the Outback Bowl. Love it. So easy to root for. PJ, congrats to you. Continued success to you and your staff and your kids. Call, I appreciate it, man.

Roll the boat, Sky, Ma, go Gophers. Thanks a lot. You bet. Is that guy easy to root for or what? How fun is that? That was great. Oh, my gosh. Dad's a exterminator.

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I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack, so I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have AIDS on the table right now, so. Then you're finishing that sentence. Yes. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Really? Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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No, no, no, no, turn on the news. This is the herd line news. Carson Wentz has been getting a lot of criticism for how he's playing this season so far. Yeah. But he says he's still confident in himself and the Eagles going forward. Let me hear this. It's okay to be frustrated. It's okay to kind of be a little ticked off.

But you know, you watch the tape and you move on. And so for me, it's another week. It's on to the next one. And, you know, I'm as confident in myself and this team as I've ever been. You know, I don't waver and I don't see this team, this locker room waiver. Hat on backwards. Not a big fan. Not a big fan.

Did not like that. You want to look like a frat boy or you want to be an NFL franchise quarterback? Turn that thing around. I do not. That looks so frat boy to me. You're Philadelphia Eagles. Philadelphia Eagles. This is a $4 billion franchise.

Where are you going golfing at public course with your buddy, Shanky McShankster? Going to have Schlits on the back nine? Are you a franchise quarterback or you going to go? Or you want to drink Bush Light? What do you want to be? I just snorted. What? Am I wrong?

I hate that. No, I just funny because I didn't, I didn't pick up on that that he has his hat on backwards. I was about to defend him. The face of the franchise. And now I've got a, I still am. They're 0 and 2. And look, he was sacked eight times in week one.

Obviously, I did not see them losing that game. Washington came out and played amazing, at least on the defensive side of the ball. He's 58.8 completion percentage, 512 yards, two passing touchdowns, four interceptions, 64.4 passing greeting.

He's not playing great. Nick Folesworth, head on forwards. Oh, Nick Foles. Pities. Oh, he puts his hat on for us. Nick Foles has a Super Bowl. Carson wins, doesn't.

He's going golfing on a public course. I think people are a little bit of reacting to the Eagles. So far this year's two weeks. They're in a, you know, not a great division. They get this thing back on track. Can somebody get, according to Colin, it's going to start returning your hat around right away. Somebody give me a baseball hat.

One of our people get me a baseball hat. I'll make a point later in the show. Okay. Franchise quarterback. I know, no, this is your thing. I don't think it's that deep, but that's, you pick up on that right away. So we've got a huge Monday night game. We've got a great, great weekend of football.

Unbelievable. Some really good games. But Monday night, Ravens and Chiefs, and Harbaugh is not shying away from the hype surrounding this matchup. Who wouldn't get excited for a game like this? You know, when you're playing a team that is a defending champs, the favorites to win the whole thing again going forward, the type of players they have, the coaches they have,

the head coach, Coach Reed, you're going to get excited about it. And it's not something that we downplay. We don't ignore it. We try to embrace it and make the most of it. So Lamar, 23 years old, Mahomes, 25 years old, represent the first head-to-head matchup in NFL history between two former MVP's, 25 or younger. Can't wait.

I love Baltimore, can't wait. This is going to be a good game. There's some great games this weekend. You have Raiders and Patriots. Rams, Bills, 1 p.m. Eastern on Fox. Cowboys, Seahawks. Cowboys, Seahawks. You have Packers Saints. Breeze Rogers. Washington and Browns. Interesting. Big game for Baker. Got 10 days prep. Got to win that game. Yeah. Bengals and Eagles are the Eagles going to get back on track? This is a great, great weekend of football. So the 2020 NFL season has gotten off to a hot start. More points and more touchdowns have been scored through the first two weeks of the season than any other in NFL history. Teams have scored a total of 1,611 points, which breaks the previous record of 1,556 points from 2012. And there's been 186 touchdowns in the first two weeks, which surpasses the record set in 2018 of 174.

So a significant uptick in offense. It's also been some surprise players, Gardner Minshue. Unbelievably good. Cam Newton. Shocking. Joe Burrow. Way better than I thought. Ryan Tannihil.

Whatever. 70.1 completes your percentage, 488 yards, six touchdowns to two weeks. Justin Herbert was shocking. Justin Herbert? Five minutes, you're starting. I didn't get any first team reps. That's a you problem. Boom.

Man, if I'm Tyrod Taylor, I'm... Yeah, that's another story in itself. That's really rough. But yeah, the offensive side. It's kind of interesting, though, when I saw this story, and you mentioned earlier, like, no one watches for defense. You know, I love big defensive plays. Like I'm, you know, my brother is a Hall of Fame defensive player.

I like a good defensive battle. But I'm with you, it's better for the audience to watch. Well, you play fantasy football. You want your guys to score. I play lots of fantasy football. I have three leagues. It's not doing so great. But it's kind of, I don't want this to become too much of a trend where we get into some of the, like, it gets a little college football.

No, we don't want to do CFL football. We don't want to be Saskatchew on against the Ottawa flat tires. I don't think it's trending that way, but it is interesting that this is happening. Yeah. September football, the weather's perfect. November, you get wind, rain. Yeah, it'll bounce out. All comes down.

Joy with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Hurd-Ly News. Dead serious. Don't want my franchise quarterback. His one time a week he meets with media, hat on backwards.

It's a $4 billion franchise. You're the CEO of it. Nick Foles looked like an NFL franchise quarterback. Not, but it looked like it. Went says all the talent. Look at that. Hey, you guys, I got a

play dial up in the sand here. That's not what you're supposed to look. And I like that kid. I'm like the biggest Carson Wentz defender. Howie Roseman, the GM needs to go to him, have a sit down. It's my knock on Tony Romo. Defended Tony Romo for seven years on the other network. Seven years I defend.

By the way, Dak Prescott. I've seen him twice with a hat forward. Yep. I just decided I like Dak more than Romo. All right. Tony Bissell, the all-time great left tackle. Jags tonight, are they going to play their way out of Trevor Lawrence? Miami. When do we get to see Tua?

Tony's great. He's next. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble. stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard radio app,

Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what I'm saying. Yep, that's me, Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media.

Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment, and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music.

The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast. It's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So, if you've ever supported me, or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be. Listen to The Clifford show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. Do you remember when Diana Ross double-tap Little Kim's boobs at the VMAs?

Or when Kanye said that George Bush didn't like black people. I know what you're thinking. What the hell does George Bush got to do with Little Kim? Well, you can find out on the Look Back at it podcast. I'm Sam Jett. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick you here. unpack what went down and try to make sense of how we survived it.

Including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill, waxing all about crack in the 80s. To be clear, 84 is big to me not just because of crack. I'm down to talk about crack on day, but just so y'all know. I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack, so I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have AIDS on the table right now, so. Thank you finishing that sentence.

Yes. I don't think there's a more important year for Black. Black people. Really? Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to my new podcast, Learn the Hardway with me, your host, and your favorite therapist, Kear Games. And in recognition of Mental Health Awareness Month, I'm bringing over a decade of my own experience in the mental health field and conversations with so many incredible guests. I'm talking, Tripp Fontaine, Ryan Clark. Sometimes when we're in the pursuit of

the thing. We get so wrapped up in the chase that we don't realize that we are in possession of the thing. And we're still chasing it. And we don't know when we've done enough. Because people scoreboard watch. Life becomes about wins and losses. Steve Burns, Dustin Ross, because you find it important to be a good person while you hear on earth. Are you a good person because you're afraid? Because that's two different intentions, bro. Absolutely. And that's two different levels of trust. I want you to just really be a good person. Join me, Keir Games, as we have real conversations about healing, growth, fatherhood, pressure, and purpose on my new podcast, Learn the Hardway. Open your free iHeartRadio app, search Learn the Hardway, and listen now. To tell you how great, a football player, our next

guest is, Tony Bisselli played for only seven years in the NFL, cut short by injuries. He still made the all-decade team of the 90s. I can't think of any player in the last 25 years. He was a five-time Pro Bowl. Many believe he had the chance to be one of the great left tackles, like the greatest of all time, had some injuries, number one picked by Jacksonville, right? He was their first great player.

He now does the Jags Radio stuff, and he's going to join us now via the Coward Global Satellite Network. Beautiful Jacksonville. All right, let's start with this. So you guys were going to get the number one pick and get Trevor Lawrence, and then Gardner Minchew had to screw it up and win a bunch of games. and I watched Gardner Minchew, Tony, and I'm like,

Greg Kosell came on my show and said, that's a franchise quarterback. So when it was the first moment you thought to yourself, Gardner Minshu, this is a starting quarterback in the league? Well, I mean, I think you look at last year as a rookie, he came in after 11 plays, Nick Fold's getting hurt, and you're like, my goodness, this kid hasn't even practiced barely,

and he's moving the ball up and down the field. And you look at the numbers as a rookie, one six games, more than any other rookie quarterback. You look at his touchdown interception ratio. and it wasn't like he had a ton of talent. You know, I leaked the offensive line last year. So they made the call, Colin. They're going to go with them.

It's the big question here, too. Is he the guy? Is he the franchise quarterback of the future? So much it was made of the tanking. I don't think many people here felt like that was the case, at least within the organization. But he still has 14 games. And I think right now, early returns,

is he's the guy. I think the only question you have is the arm talent. You know, how much arm strength does he have? Can he drive it down the field? consistently, but he's smart, he's poised. He is magnetic in the locker room as far as a leader. The guys want to play for him. So he has a lot of the traits to be the guy. Listen, Justin Herbert, Joe Burrough have looked great. You guys face the dolphins tonight. If you were on that coaching staff in Miami, Ryan Fitzpatrick does a good job. He's a respectable

pro. Let's say Miami loses tonight. Do you go to Tua? What's your kind of theory on when do you go to Tua? So what I'm about to say is I'm assuming he's healthy. I'm assuming the hips 100%, and there's no risk of future injury there, what happened in Alabama last year. I'm not sure why they're not going with him right now. Is Miami going to go to the playoffs? Are they fighting to be a Super Bowl contender? I don't think so.

Looking at the tape, looking at the roster, and kind of how they're rebuilding it, why would you go to a tour right now and find out what you have and find out if he's the guy you believe he is and the reason you made him a high first round pick? So Ryan Fitzpatrick has had a great career, puts up big numbers. But I don't think anyone is confusing him with the answer long term in Miami. They have the guy in the roster. I'm always one for it. Get them on the field.

That's how you learn. And either is going to be able to do it or not. You know, it's interesting. Gardner-Minchu is playing well, but you guys appear too good to have a number one or number two pick. Your offense is too good. You're going to win four, five, six games or more. I look at your schedule.

You've got Detroit coming up. You're going to win some games. The Jets and the Johnson. are different. They have young quarterbacks like Jacksonville, Daniel Jones, Sam Darnold, but they're horrible. So the Trevor Lawrence thing is, you know as a Pact 12 guy, John Elway came out, you were just going to take him. If you needed a quarterback or not, you were going to take Elway. Andrew Luck was that good. If you would, Daniel Jones, Sam Darnold, if you're a bad team and get number one, what do you do with the Trevor

Lawrence situation? I mean, is he that good that you'd move off a guy after two or three years? Yeah, I think it's a great question. And I think, first of the first of the first of the first of of all, New York for the Jets, you better figure out the head coaching situation first, because you have to put a guy like Sam Darnold, then I don't think Trevor Lawrence is going to have any more success than Sam Darnold is based on what they've surrounded them and the chaos that they have in that organization. The Giants are different.

I don't think, I think even if you're the Giants and you get the number one overall pick, you just leverage it to the hilt and get as many picks as you possibly can, because I think it's too early to give up on Daniel Jones. You know, a little too many turnovers early in his career, but by the look of it, the eye test, kind of how he handles himself. I still think he has a chance. But it's going to be a tough decision because, to your point, a lot of people think. Now, it would be interesting because of this COVID-shortened season,

and we'll see what we get out of college football this year, will the feelings of Trevor Lawrence being the guy, the can't miss John Elway type of player, still be there if we don't get a full picture of him this year? Are you surprised? I never bought into preseason, Tony. Iowa has said colleges are 18-year-old kids and they don't have practice games and they look great. Last year, Oregon, Overn, Week 1, Bo Nix was a freshman quarterback. He looked fine to me. Do you think the preseason's done in the NFL with how good the offenses have been with no preseason?

Well, I think part of the offense is being so good. I mean, I think you see a lot of sloppy defense. I mean, the offense is being good as a couple things called. Number one, the rules are set up for offensive football. It's different than any other time since I've been alive watching football and it's progressed that way over the last several years. So you're going to see offense, and you should see offense based on the rules. I think you're also seeing pretty sloppy defense tackling, but poor angles and everything else. But going back to your question about preseason, I still think there's a need for it from the standpoint of evaluation of your roster, especially the back end of it. I don't think you need four.

I could argue you could talk me out of even having two. But I think one preseason game, just to kind of give the coaches, the GMs to evaluate the roster to get things put together, even if you don't play those starters, I think there's some value to that. But I think preseason has changed forever with what we've seen this year to start the season. Can you imagine had you played to be 43 years old? Are you shocked by Brady or do you get it? I mean, what do you make of him playing at 43? Well, you know, number one, I'll go back to the rules because the way the game has played today and the rules of protecting the quarterback, I think you can play longer. He's not taking the abuse the guys took a generation ago where you're getting hit a bunch of times in the pocket.

you're not really protected as a runner even when you're outside the pocket, which you are today. And so I think that lends a lot to it, plus the science and the nutrition, the way guys are taking care of themselves. That position more than any other, I think, has the opportunity to do that into lengthen careers the way the game's played now. Yeah. Tony Bessaly, it's Jaggs Miami Dolphins tonight. Gardner Minshue against Ryan Fitzpatrick. You look happy. You look healthy.

I love when you come on the show. If we can just get Pack 12 football as a former Trojan to figure it out, I'll be in a good mood. Yeah, everyone else in the country's figured out, Colin, but somehow the West Coast can't get their act together. But you know what? Listen, I live in the South now. We're playing football. High school football college football. We're moving forward full speed ahead, right or wrong.

And so there's plenty of football down here in the South. Good seeing you, Tony. Thanks for coming on. Colin, thanks for having me. You bet. He's a Jags football analyst. made the all 90s decade team played seven years. That's a pretty good indication.

By the way, I was saying this. I like Carson Wentz, and I know you young guys are just all yelling at me today. I just get you worked up, and that kind of like makes me laugh that it gets you worked up on this whole backwards hat thing. Like, if you want to clean your garage out and do it, like, I don't give a rip. I mean, you know, I mean, you're raking the yard, you're cleaning the garage out, you're playing with your kids. I'm just saying as a franchise quarterback. When you hit the podium, look like a franchise quarterback.

I got to read a spot here. Carsheel.com, check engine light comes on. Don't freak out. Go to carshield.com code hurdle. I'll give you an example. First of all, you should wear it forward because it protects your eyes. Isn't that why you wear it? Let me just ask you.

Let's say twice a year the Eagles ask Carson Wentz to meet with advertisers and suite holders. That's what teams do. Hi, I'm Carson Wentz. It's nice to meet you, sir. Oh, you run Chevron. It's nice to meet you, sir. You run Geico Insurance. It's a pleasure to meet you.

I'm Carson Wentz. Oh, oh, Bank of America, CEO. It's a pleasure to meet you, sir. Thank you. My name is Carson Wentz. Thank you. Or, hey. So many and the boys had beers last week.

Hey, I mean, the quarterback. What do you got here? Bank of America? I've never been to a bank. You tell me there's not a difference between this look as a franchise quarterback and this look. I've seen, well, our current president, I've seen presidents wear their hat like that. Yeah, he's not wearing that backwards. But wait, you've seen CEOs in America wear their hat like this.

Yeah, I'm a Fortune 500 company. Yeah, I mean, you know, I can't even count to 400. But I go get rental clubs and I'm Captain Shanky McShankster. and me and my boys go out and drink Schlitz Light and I run a big company. What does that look like to you? I will give it to you. Tell me I'm wrong.

It looks and sounds crazy. Tell me I'm wrong on that. I mean, listen, it's your theory. I don't give as much creatives to the seriousness of it. Do you think look the part? I definitely believe that you should dress for the job that you want,

not the job that you have. I'm not asking you to wear a tuxedo. No, that would... I'm not asking you to wear a tuxedo. wear a tie. Feel like a bit much. This way, not that way. It's not a big ask.

I'm not asking for a tuxedo here. I'm not asking for a Bentley. I'm not asking for a butler. I'm just like, don't look like a frat boy if you run a $4 billion franchise. Matt Patricia wore it backwards once. What did I say? You looked like an idiot.

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