The Herd with Colin Cowherd - THE HERD - Hour 3 - Raiders QB Plans & Dr David Chao Joins

Episode Date: March 6, 2026

Jonas Knox & LaVar Arrington fill in for Colin as they discuss the Las Vegas Raiders decision to release Geno Smith and what their plans are for potentially using Fernando Mendoza such as not starting him immediately. Plus, the guys chat with Dr. David Chao on Jayson Tatum's return from injury and the health of Maxx Crosby and Patrick Mahomes in the NFL, we have Brian Kelly comments on Herdline News, and more!! #2prosSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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us on the i heart radio app here live you can listen on hundreds of affiliates you could also hear lavar and i during the week on two pros and a cup of joe alongside brady quinn uh six to nine a m eastern time o'clock to 6 a.m. Pacific time. As we get you set for the weekend, lots of moving and shaking in the NFL, lots of deals being done. We talked earlier about the release of Gino Smith, maybe not the biggest surprise. Gino Smith, who made, I think about $58 million, if I'm not mistaken, 58 million from the Raiders. A lot of take home. Raiders also gave up, I believe, a third round pick to do that also. So he is gone. The report from Diana Rossini is that If they do plan to move forward with Fernando Mendoza is the number one pick, which they most likely are,

that they're going to hope that he sits initially and that they bring in a veteran who's going to be the starter there, which doesn't seem like it makes a whole hell of a lot of sense, but nonetheless there's that. You mentioned Rishon Gary. He's out in Green Bay. So he's done. Rishon Gary is done. He posted a goodbye to social media. Taylor Decker, the left tackle for the Lions.

He is also out in Detroit. So this is the time of year where you're just, you're seeing cost cutting and cost cap casualties left and right around the national football league. I know that you look at it and you go, well, the best players are all retained and they don't reach free agencies. So, man, there's some really talented players out there that are going to be looking for work and are going to get gobbled up here pretty quickly that just couldn't make it work financially with their previous teams. the Rashaun Gary one that that's a little peculiar i mean you just brought in micha parsons to be what i would consider a great compliment to what rasha gary brings to the table now if you feel like that's a kind of a getting rid of a guy before it's too late type of an approach then maybe maybe that makes a ton of sense i guess

but why would you only give the Michael Parsons, Roshan Gary, experiment one season? Yeah, I would think that you would want to give it another go considering that Micah had the setback with his knee. But, I mean, the amount of success that they were able to have, having them both on the field was what's tremendous. I mean, you're talking about a team that we look

that as a potential Super Bowl competitive team. So that's a tad bit curious, but I think it does make the now free agent market a little bit better than what it was the day before with him with him entering into it. I mean, we said it wasn't very impressive thus far, but but maybe with the additions of some, some, you know, guys that get let go leading up to free agency. And the start of the new league year, maybe it does improve. You know, maybe it does get dramatically better. Maybe not dramatically, but better enough. Yeah, I just think, and look, a lot of this maybe is set up for moves that could be coming down the pike. And that could be the lions, you know, addressing the offensive line in some other way.

I also look at it and I go, you know, this is an indication that if you've got an opportunity, to go for it and win a championship and win your Super Bowl, when you get close, you got to cash in. Got to cash in. Because we were talking about this on our show earlier this week. It was Dan Campbell who said, you know, maybe we'll never get that close again. He could be right. It could be a painful message for somebody. He's right.

And it's like, well, yeah, Dan, like maybe you should have kicked a couple field goals there. I mean, if that's the case. I don't know. It's like a guy who loses all of his money. on blackjacket, he goes, you know, maybe that's as close as I was going to get to being rich. Well, yeah, so why did you hit on 18? Like, I don't, you know, play it safe from time to time.

Gotta take a chance. So now you've just seen what's happened with the lion since then, and you go, all right, so Taylor Decker's gone. And look, he's a little banged up and coming off the, but that's one thing. David Montgomery's out. Ben Johnson's gone. Aaron Glenn's gone.

Like, it's just what that foundation was. for the Lions is gone. And so when you consider you were in an NFC title game and were leading that NFC title game against the Niners and blew that game. And then the next year, you were hosting a playoff game against Washington and got knifed in front of your fans. And that could have just been one of them days

because Washington kind of took a big step back this past year. Yeah, so did. They took all the way. They stepped all. They stepped all. They stepped into the basement into the non-finished road. They entered the non-playoff portal. You know that one part of the basement, you're like, oh, we should probably finish this part of the basement off. They were standing on gravel and dirt.

So you look at Detroit and you go, all right, you wonder how much the Ben Johnson effect was a real effect there, that they couldn't make it work this year and what they were missing. And then from the Packers standpoint, the Packers go for it year, felt like last year. It seemed like that could have been it. That was the one where you make the Micah Parsons move.

I already thought Green Bay was going to the Super Bowl before that move. And then you added Micah Parsons and the thought was, oh, that was the missing piece. And it really looked like that for a while. And then all of a sudden, Tideon gets injured, little things start to pop up. Micah Parsons gets injured. You lose a couple of awful games, blow games against your arms.

arch rival and now I'm starting to look around going man maybe if you're green bay now rashon Gary's gone so to your point you had that duo coming off the edge you had that as pass rushers now you don't have that and you don't even have one of them because micha parsons who knows how long it's going to be before he's back and back to full health and 100 percent it's a completely different looking green bay team different and your defensive coordinator left jeffley left and now he's you know the head coach of the dolphins so a lot of turnover there Okay, so Jordan Love had a breakout, I mean a breakout year in 2023. His numbers aren't bad in 24 and 25.

But Jonas, I'll pose this. Did you find yourself having more questions about Jordan Love as the starting franchise quarterback for the Green Bay Packers at the conclusion of this season, much like some of the other teams that we talked about with a guy, like in very, very clear form comparison, thus like the quarterback in Houston. Yeah. We thought C.J. Strout was on a meteoric rise.

I think we took the same approach with Jordan Love. There's this meteoric rise. But did you find yourself having questions as to, did we see their best football in that one season that they had in the early on start of their career? You know what jumped out to me about Jordan Love? And it's a small sample size because he got knocked out of the first game and it was Malik Willis who finished it. But when you were watching that playoff game in Chicago, and again, keep in mind, this is, Jordan Love's had playoff experience and played pretty well in the postseason. Caleb Williams had no playoff experience.

and was dealing. When the game was on the line. He was dealing. When the game was on the line, if I were to ask you, all right, you need a winning drive from one of these quarterbacks. Who are you going to? I'm going with Caleb. It just felt like there's something there that...

Isn't there. Yeah, that Jordan left. Hey, that's hard. Is that an oxymor? There's something that's there that isn't there. And you mentioned, and you mentioned CJ Stroud. C.J. Stroud looked broken. I mean, that was like that story you told.

me about, hey, listen, if you don't want to be with me beyond tonight, I get it. Because that's what he definitely Oh, when I went to bed. Yeah. I don't care. Hey, she married me. It's her fault. Yeah, I told her. Dead sober. Was exhausted. Working three jobs, you know,

early on in my radio career. And, you know, woke up in a puddle. And she was nice enough to say, well, it's really hot in here. Maybe you're just sweating. No, no, I'm not. No, that was that 50 ounces of water I had before bed. My sweat is not yellow. in my 30s, wedding the bed. And I told her, hey, listen, if you never want to talk to me again, I totally get it.

Thankfully, there was a language barrier. But the point is, the point is, that's so good. That was so good. She stuck it through, all right, and the rest is history. It's all downhill from here, right? If we could get through this, we can get through anything. It's what it is.

But I mean, that had to be the conversation that C.J. Stroud had with his teammates. It just so, yeah, you're watching. There does appear like there's teams going into this year. And that's why when Tui brought up the fact that Colin said in a top 10 draft, Aaron Rogers would be in the top 10. Why it makes sense for a year is because I think everybody's anticipating this next draft class. It's not this one. It's the one after. And you've got all of these quarterbacks that it, that got franchise money like Kyla Murray and Tuatatoguilai Loa, and those organizations couldn't wait to get rid of them. Like they couldn't wait to move off of them.

And so I do wonder if we're at the point now, which circles all the way back to the Raiders decision to reportedly not want to start Fernando Mendoza right away, I think teams, I can understand, A, you want to slow it down, you want to take a slow pace to try and develop these quarterbacks and these starters in the league. but I also think at some point

you'd like to know whether or not they can play and the only way you do that is if you throw them out there and put them in the line of fire and see what happens. Unless you got Aaron Rogers that's in front of your quarterback that has been there like a Brett Farr when Aaron Rogers came in. If you have a, I don't know,

I mean, you get my point. Like you have a great established QB that's in front of you that you're planning. Drew Bledso was in front of Braille. There you go. In front of Brady. Not that he was brought into to be groomed, but like you had an established starter.

It makes sense. And listen, Tom Brady is different because it was, he was a late draft pick. So it's not like you were, you spent a number one overall draft pick. I'm saying number one overall. You got a number one pick overall and you took a quarterback and you have an established quarterback that's in the twilight of their career. I get it. You want to bring them along slow.

He's going to learn and listen. I think it's overblown to say have a mentor in this coach. No, it's not mentor. It's be responsible enough as a rookie and a pro to learn, watch, and listen. Be seen, not heard. Be present, right? But not in the way. Be a fly on the wall.

Listen to what Aaron Rogers, that vet is saying. Listen to what his reads are. Listen to how he communicates with the coaching staff. Listen to how he communicates with the receivers. Learn what it's like to be a Patrick Mahomes. Learn what it's like to be a Josh Allen in these situations. Learn it. A Tom Brady.

Learn it. And then you apply it. And sometimes it doesn't even work. But you have a better opportunity because you have a model to compare and to learn from at this early stage of your career. is there breaking news. I'll say this. If you're spending a number one overall draft pick on a QB

and you do not have a first ballot bona fide Hall of Famer that's playing good football when you bring them into that building, do not use a number one draft pick on a quarterback. Do not do it. I would strongly advise you do not spend a number one pick on somebody that you are not planning on using a, I want him throwing the ball. The minute we call his name, sign your contract. The minute you sign your name.

Pat and go lines. Come on, man. Riverside. Yeah, look at Cam Ward. You know what? You could say whatever you want about what the Titans were last year, and they were a bucket of puke. Don't matter. Totally get it.

Don't matter. But you know what? At least you've got some information on the guy. You have some understanding of, all right, this is where he's struggling at this level, and this is what we need to do moving forward. Exactly. Exactly. That's why I look at it.

Get your measure. Get your measurements. Get your gain your data. We live in a data-driven age. Get the data. It's a number one overall draft pick. You're going to tell me you're getting your data out of practice. Doubt it.

Ain't no way. Ain't no way you're making that kid better as a football player. when you brought him in as a number one overall draft pick as a quarterback, as a quarterback, that is the position you do not want to mess with in that way. You brought him in as the number one pick. He should be starting day one. I don't care. Oh, you got to earn it?

No, you don't. You earned it by being the number one draft pick in this year's draft. Now, something to keep an eye on. You got to earn it to keep it. Yeah. But you ain't got to earn it to do it. Now, something to keep an eye on. Lamar Jackson has been a little active on social media today. He posted an Instagram story saying, thank you, Jesus, as he was in his Ravens gear.

He posted from Training Day, the gif of Denzel Washington saying boom on his social media. And there's been some rumblings that the Ravens are a team to watch in the Max Crosby sweepstakes. So who knows? It could be. They need it. There could be three different ways this is happening for the Red. Either. Either.

Either. It's either. Lamar Jackson got his deal done because they were trying to figure out a way to rework his contract and get a new deal done with him. Or there's a Max Crosby trader. Who knows? Maybe Linderbombs back. Maybe all three. So.

I would not be surprised if all three were to happen. Could be all three. Yeah. And I'm surprised they didn't get a DJ more. But it was brought up in and in our up. and the news update earlier on. Don't be surprised if they land somebody like A.J. Brown. And keep in mind, the recruitment of it could be real.

One aspect of it that we didn't mention, who's a running back for the Baltimore Ravens? Who has a friendship and a history with A.J. Brown. Oh, it's a good point. Oh. So we're entering into that legal tampering time of the year. but let's think about it. Is it tampering if you're the homie?

You know what I mean? All I'm saying is, is it tampering if I called you and asked you, how's the offseason going for you? How's the family? Where are we going to hang? I see you at prime. Whatever. You know what I'm saying.

Come on. We might throw some ones up in the air, you know. You know, who knows? I think there's a, you know, a big difference between, you know, blatantly offering a guy a contract who's currently not out of his previous contract or trying to trade with a player and negotiate with a player directly, which you can't do. And there's a big difference between that. And, you know, maybe Lamar Jackson says, hey, man, you know, let's get together.

I know a lunch truck in Baltimore that I've been seen at. And if you want to get some Mongolian barbecue while we are flying high, them is oxtails. Believe you, me, them is ox tales. Believe you me, them is oxtails. And I was talking about Derek Henry and his relationship with AJ Brown when they were both in Tennessee to all of those out there. I might have sounded cryptic, but just to make sure we're clear, AJ Brown and Derek Henry, friends and were teammates together in Tennessee. Roll up a crab cake and smoke them if you got them. I'm telling you, man.

Hey, that crab cake strand is fire too. Throw a little bit of old bay on there. By the way, I was not familiar with Old Bay until you told me about it. Some old bay on that. It's a real deal. What? I had no idea. Crab bomb, baby.

I had no idea. Listen, man, my wife's Mexican. So if I'm not eating... Tapitia. I mean, if I'm not eating what they make, they'll hold me at gunpoint. What's the orange? What's the orange? They got an orange salt too.

Oh, you got Tapatio, you got a Valentino. That's what it is. Tapatio, right? Tabasco. You got all sorts of fun stuff there. They put that tapatio on the candy. They put it on on the rim of their drinks. Like, what else they put it on?

There's a whole bunch of other. stuff that they put the tap of teal on. And they won't let you. They put on fruit? They won't let you leave unless you eat. So if you're hungry, you got to come up with new. So one of the things I did. Yeah, so one of the things I do is if I tell them, no, I'm not hungry.

I know I'm going to get asked two or three more times by our family. So I'll just pick up anything next to me and pretend it's a phone. Like I'll grab somebody's shoe and be like, yeah, I'm still here and just walk out of the room. So I don't have to deal with it anymore. If it was a sneaker. Oh, anything. Yeah. Yeah.

Remote control. Like, you know, direct TV remote. Yeah, still here. Yeah. Oh, it's great. It's so good. Yeah. So we'll keep you post.

Who knows what Lamar Jackson's referring to on his social media. Oh, it's going to come out. It is The Herd here on Fox Sports Radio. LeVar Erington, Jonas Knox, in for Colin. Up next, we're going to find out what risks could be had later on tonight with the return of a superstar in the world of sports. And it's yours here on FSR. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific. Hey, it's Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington from the Uncup.

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How are things? I'm doing great. Look at you guys, big time here. Yeah, we are big time. So let me ask you, you obviously were the team physician in the NFL for almost two decades. You've been around this stuff for years and years and years. When you see Jason Tatum return this quickly, yet somebody like a Dame Lillard and a Tyrese Halliburton, there's not even a thought they'd come back this year. How much of this do you think was sped up based on the fact that the Celtics have a chance? chance to win a title? Well, return to play is always multifactorial. Not every injury is the same.

Not every recovery is the same. Not every rehab is the same. And not every situation is the same. This is a nice, quick recovery for Jason Tatum. Hats off to him. But it's also not the quickest one in NBA history. I mean, Wesley Matthews, Kobe Bryant, Rudy Gay, Dominic Wilkins, Chauncey Billups, all came back a little bit quicker than Jason

Tatum. Of course, we all look at the longer returns for Kevin Durant, who did return to 100%. And we say, this is a nice, quick return, and you mentioned some other guys. But return to play doesn't mean someone is 100%. And as great as Tatum is done, I doubt he's Jason Tatum at 100% when he comes back to play tonight. I think it's spot play working himself in with the Celtics who have a very good team, playoff bound, figuring out what his role is and get acclimated ahead of the playoffs, but still kudos to him for all the hard work that he is engendered. All right. So we talked a few, a lot, I guess some different topics at the Super Bowl, but one of the

things was the Max Crosby conversation and, you know, the concerns about what he may or may not have going on. But what is the, do you have a latest update on Max Crosby's health? Was this more a shutting him down based off of where the team was, or was it based off of really protecting him and what would perceive to be, you know, a sore knee? Look, I'm not inside the building in terms of rumors and what's going on. Look at Mike Silver, Jay Glaciers, others reporting the possible trade and that he's done. But from a medical perspective, I think the narrative that we had in December that the Raiders were tanking.

They were shutting Max Crosby down against his will is really not correct. They were shutting him down for his own good. It turns out it was a meniscus repair, not a trim. Miniscus trim is a much smaller surgery, quicker recovery. Meniscus repair is much longer. As a matter of fact, obviously I haven't examined Max Crosby. be, but I would imagine technically he does not pass a physical today because it's only March. It's only three months from the meniscus repair.

Meniscus repair recoveries are minimum four to six months. And so that may be what is complicating a potential trade, not just the asking price, but he has to pass a physical. And no trade is consummated or final until a physical is passed. If he's wanting to get traded, certainly he could share his. electronic or other medical records, so a team could project him to be healthy. But as of today, I don't think he passes a physical. And maybe there is a role in that in terms of teams not pulling the trigger or perhaps

not beating the asking price yet. Dr. David Chow joining us here on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Erington, Jonas Knox, in for the herd. Let me ask you one thing, because we were kind of kicking this around just to go back quickly on the Jason Tatum stuff. Reggie Miller spoke on the Dan Patrick show and was. mentioning that, you know, based on the documentary and sort of how things timeline-wise happen, listen to Reggie Miller's explanation as to what he saw in watching the Tatum documentary

as to why he's back this quickly. The best thing, if there was, knock on wood, the best thing when he tore his Achilles in game five, I believe, in New York, that the doctor was right there, that they attached it right away. And the thinking was the body didn't even know that it had that traumatic experience. That's how quickly within 24 hours they had the surgery on the Achilles. So that's why he is so far ahead of schedule versus Damien Lillard or Tyrese Halliburton is because they had the surgery within 24. When you hear that, do you buy that thought that because the doctor happened to be there, they got the surgery done so quickly, the body didn't recognize the trauma at one under. Does that

makes sense to you is from a medical standpoint? I love Reggie Miller and I'll take all kinds of three-point shooting advice from him, but I don't know that this is, and there's any medical, factual basis for this. Certainly doing the surgery in one day is perhaps better than doing it in a week or two, which is what happens in the normal world for us mere mortals. But I don't think if the body recognizes that there's a tear immediately, Jason Tatum recognized there's a tear immediately. Could there be a little less swelling in there? Okay, maybe. But I think it's his hard work, rehab, and sometimes the type of tear that allows him to return. And quite honestly, where the Celtics are, where he really wants to return, whereas no offense to Kevin Durant, in Kevin Durant's

situation, who tore it in that NBA finals, besides being a big man seven-footer and besides it being June, he waited all that next season and into the following season to make sure he really was 100%. And when he came back, he really was 100%. This is why I'm saying I'm not sure Jason Tatum is 100% right now. I'm not saying he can't come back and be effective. What Reddy says is awesome, but I would say is the recovery for Achilles is also being accelerated by other things. Blood flow restriction therapy is part of it. I've seen in that same document, that Jason Tatum has some of those tourniquet-type devices on to help blood flow restriction to help healing. That is something that, you know, we saw Aaron Rogers do when he tried to return in the same season in the NFL.

Didn't make it back because the Jets didn't make the playoffs. But there's a lot of things accelerating the recovery. I think only a very smart part. I mean, look, I'd love it to get credit to say the doctor was there and therefore we really helped out, which, you know, is great. I hope the doctor helped out, certainly from a psychological perspective, and being there and getting the right diagnosis and reassuring Jason Tatum on his return. But the body does recognize a rupture or a tear immediately.

Okay. And looking at where Jason Tatum is, is there any risk of there being any type of re-injury of any kind, of any sort? Well, when you say any risk, the answer is yes, and I'm not trying to scare Celtics fans, and I'm not saying he's not ready. But, you know, any sort of quick, eccentric load is the Achilles as strong today as it will be months from now? Answer is probably no. This is why Durant took, you know, 500 days to return. Kudos to Tatum for wanting to return, but I don't think, once again, he's 100%. And I'll give you something else.

He's not 100% safe if you really want to talk about. about it, and I hope I don't jinx the man. On the other side, it's not uncommon to have a second Achilles happen after a first. We've seen it in the NFL, in many instances. Terrell Suggs is one that comes to mind. So I hope saying that doesn't place any jinx on Jason Tatum. Dr. David Chow joining us here on Fox Sports Radio, LeVarrington, Jonas Knox, in for the herd.

What can you tell us about Caleb Downs, the prospect? He was at the Combine. there was a medical red flag, something about the ACL. What can you tell us about that situation and it is something to monitor? It's something to monitor, but I don't make a lot of it. First of all, not at all distrusting the reporter that said it, not distrusting the source or a scout that said it. But in my time in the NFL, I've been to 20 combines.

And I always met with the GM or assistant GM. It was never with a scout. And therefore, there's the game of telephone that can happen. And let me tell you something, if you're talking about a player getting flagged at combines, out of the 330 players that are there, there aren't one or two at most that are flagged to extent, which is do not draft, you cannot draft them. They're probably about 30 or 40 or so, sometimes up to 50 red flags where someone has an issue that currently at the combines, they don't pass the physical, but they could project the

pass the physical. So it's sort of a stop sign there. And there's probably another, a third of the 330, a hundred or more, that have a yellow flag, which is some history of injury that might affect their longevity or something down the road. But that doesn't always affect their draft status at all. So I guess what I'm saying is just because someone is flagged, I'd say a third of athletes at the combines are flagged in some way. But that doesn't mean they're going to drop in the draft or be undraftable. And I'm old enough that when I first started going to Combines, GMs would tell me, is this guy going to be our left tackle for the next 12, 15 years? Well, by the time I was done, the question was, is this guy going to get us through a,

get through his first contract is all they cared about, right? And there are other instances, too. You know, there was a draft pick, Sony Michelle for the Patriots, the 32nd pick in the first round, where we said he's got degenerative knees and he's not going to last. But guess what? The Patriots rode him to a Super Bowl in his rookie year. He did not have a long career, but they wrote him to a Super Bowl in that first year. So there's all sorts of reasons for picking players, and I don't make a ton out of the Caleb Downs report so far. One last one for you here, Dr. Chow.

Patrick Mahomes, what's the realistic timeline for him? Because we're talking about, you know, these moves Kansas City's making. you know, they're trading away, you know, star players on defense, they're restructuring contracts. We're looking at this is, is this the end of the run for Kansas City as a legitimate Super Bowl contender? And one of the things that's kind of been buried in all this is Mahomes is coming off a pretty serious injury. First of his career, really, to this extent. At his age, when do you expect him to be full go for next year? Well, Patrick Mahomes has been a beast in terms of his play and also getting through injuries.

We remember him playing through a high ankle spring and winning the Super Bowl on that. This knee injury is a little bit different. It's more than just an ACL, and we've talked about it a lot at Sports Injury Central, SICScore.com. It's a multi-ligament injury where he tore his LCL as well as his ACL, which is why he had the accelerated immediate surgery, not because his body wouldn't recognize it, but because it's a repair of the LCL and then a reconstruction of the ACL makes it more complicated. The best comp for this as a quarterback actually was Carson Wentz when he was with the Eagles. It happened in L.A. against the Rams, Torres, LCL, and ACL. Nick Fools came in and won the Super Bowl.

Carson Wentz was not ready for week one last year. He rushed it back week four or so and ended up with some back issues compensatorily. Here's the thing. Could Patrick, do I expect Patrick Mahomes to return to 100% or being Patrick Mahomes, the magician that he is? The answer is yes. Will that happen week one? That is definitely in question. I don't think he'll be 100% himself week one.

Is he healthy enough to try and play week one? Maybe will he want to play week one? Certainly, will the chiefs let him play week one when he's not 100%. That's the bigger question mark. They may exercise some caution because he is absolutely the franchise. You don't want him to not be 100% and suffer another injury. And I think they're going to take it day by day and see how he is. But if there's any additional risk, they may not have him playing at the start of next season,

given the severity of the knee injury. Dr. David Chow always appreciate it. You can get him on X at Pro Football Doc. And we look forward to updates with some of the wheelings. and dealings happen and we'll monitor the Jason Tatum situation. Good stuff, Doc. We appreciate you, man. Thank you, sir.

Thank you. There he is, Dr. David Chow with us here on Fox Sports Radio. It's LeVar Erington, Jonas Knox. In for The Herd here. Coming up next, we're going to close up shop with the herd line news and what may be one of the great post-game press conferences we've heard in a long time. But that's yours here on FSR. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m.

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He has resurfaced. As the price of college football rosters continue to sky rock around the country, listen to what Brian Kelly, the former LSU coach, said this morning on Sirius XM, on the state of college football and LSU's roster next year. College football is not in a bad place. The revenue is ridiculous. Like, I don't even know how LSU is doing it, right? They're paying Lank Hiffin, whatever.

They're paying me. That's crazy. That shouldn't happen. But it is because the money is out there. So the problems are real, but college football is still in a pretty good place. It's in a great place. And they're paying a $40 million roster, by the way, down there. Maybe a little more.

Maybe a little bit more. If you want to tell us how much more on what you know, we'd love that. With that, with that being said. More than $40. I'll tell you that. More than $40 million for LSU's roster. Now, Colin has said the SEC is in real trouble with NIL, because basically they have schools like Texas and A&M keeping them afloat with all their big business tech and oil money.

And I like the Big Ten, they don't have the luxury of the Nike money and the financial money in Chicago, New York markets, and the Hollywood money in L.A., UCLA, USC. So, I mean, this is crazy. I don't know how they can afford a $40 million roster, but. It's so out of control that there's like there's no guardrails in place. And then you hear, my favorite is when you hear guys like Brian Kelly and other people in involved in college football, take shots at other people. Like, it wasn't. When they was the coach, it was good enough.

It's like two serial killers next to each other. And one looks over to the other and goes, God, really? What do you mean? We're the same guy. What do you mean? Don't give me that look. It's just the whole thing's odd. But, you know, I guess if you got the money and you can, I just wish we could go back

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We used to call it best for last for last. I'm excited about this. All right, okay. So last night, Russell Westbrook turned the tables on the media. The Kings lost their 50th game of the season. They have the worst record in the NBA. Russell Westbrook has been surprisingly quiet this year. But last night, he let loose on the table.

the local assembled Sacramento Media with a reporter starting the press conference asking what they can accomplish in these last 19 games after hitting the 50 loss mark last night. You know, go out, compete. This is a game. You're a professional.

Go out and play. And that's all you can do. Which I think, though, because y'all got a lot of answers and y'all always be talking. I have no answer to play. Oh, it's very interesting. Nobody, y'all got no...

You guys have a lot of opinions. about how we do what we doing. What you got? No you. Yeah, yeah, you make a lot of statements and broad statements that you have no context. So what do you get your context from? Are you in practice? No. Are you at our film session? No. Are you anywhere around the building? Yes. No, I haven't seen at practice. Not inside you. So the false context of, and actually do you know me? I know you. No, you don't know me. You don't know me. You don't know me. But you make a lot of comments as though you do know me. A comment about your basketball?

No, no, no, you don't know, my intent. I see it, I see it. Anybody else, do you guys have any comments about how we play, what we're doing? You guys are quiet today, but you guys have a lot of comments when the game's going on after the game, what we're doing, what we should be doing, how we should be doing it. Dang. I'm confused. Hang.

Oh, let me hear. You must have in our film session, too. I'm not in your film session, but you guys have the worst record in the NBA. cool. I think it's great. I think this has happened more often where players start peppering the local media for how critical they are sometimes. I mean, why not? Right, LeVar, you're a former player?

I can see you doing this. And I am a current media personality, right? You see both sides of it. So I do see both sides of it. They have a job to do, the media, and obviously the player has a job to do. But when you have a player that takes the time to actually address it to the level that he just did, you know, and that sound bite. I mean, that's, I mean, think about it.

I do, like, you know, I mean, I make good points. You know, I mean, I got to be honest with you, man. I, and I know this is probably, I shouldn't feel this way because I'm a member of the quote-unquote media. When the player drops the, you never played the game card or something along those lines, I think it's hilarious. Because it really is the kill shot. Like, what do you say? Really? You know what you really is.

How do you, how do you combat that you never played? You know, you're right. You know, you're absolutely right. That's fair. I mean, but you can be a little bit more creative if you are the athlete because that is the easy go-to. You know, you can easily, you know, shut them down. You know, I don't want to, you know, I'm not trying to turn this into a, you know, Brian Cox, Chris Meyer's situation.

But I would just say this. Yikes. That Russell Westbrook has shown he will bite back, whether it's a fan, whether it's a member of the media, he will talk back. And what's interesting about it is that he was in the same locker room with Kevin Durant all those years. And Kevin Durant will do the same thing to where he'll go back at somebody on Twitter. He'll make a fake profile, which makes me wonder, what the hell was that dynamic like between those two guys? No wonder it wasn't tenable after a while.

And they had to go out somewhere. But what does this also tell you, these guys are always paying attention? Yes. Despite what they say, they are always paying attention to what's being said about them. We do pay attention. I mean, Russ clearly knew what exact reporters to go after. Like, he literally, if you're watching the video of it, he's looking at specific guys going, what do you think?

Yeah, what do you think? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then it keeps going where other guys are asking him questions and he's just answering them. So he clearly had a targeted sort of agenda there last night. Remember when he was celebrated when he signed the extension with Oklahoma City after Kevin Durant left? And everyone's like, hey, man, at least he showed some love. loyalty, bro. At least he was loyal, unlike that bastard Kevin Durant. He's been on 16 since. Russell Westbrook has literally traveled the globe playing basketball, and now he's on the Sacramento Kings.

And guess what? I'm sure he'd like to be on another team had they cut him for playoff purposes. Oh, yeah. And you know what? He's been in the league 18 years now, which is wild to think about. Do you think Russell Westbrook's coming back next year? No. Guaranteed. Oh, absolutely he's coming back. Yeah, no. You don't think so? No. Oh, yeah.

He'll find a job. No way. He'll be there. No way. Are we done? Are we done? Russell Westbrook's going to be there, man. I don't buy it.

Not for one second. Do I buy Russell Wilson? Josh Johnson of the NBA office. You might be right. He might be back. Hey, everybody enjoy your weekend. I hope y'all enjoyed the show. Check out the podcast.

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