The Herd with Colin Cowherd - THE HERD - Hour 3 - Raiders RB Raheem Mostert and Michigan HC Dusty May stopped by The Herd

Episode Date: March 2, 2026

Colin talks to Raiders RB Raheem Mostert about his time in Miami playing for Mike McDaniel, what helped his career, Ashton Jeanty and more. He also talks to Michigan HC Dusty May about their season, NIL, how he handles hecklers, and more.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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iHeart Radio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. We're listening to Fox Sports Radio. So earlier in the show about an hour ago, I had Matt Hasselbeck on and I said, I just love, I always liked Matt Hasselbeck's journey. Well, our next guest, four years at Purdue, which is not a high profile program, it's a great university. Rahim Moster made the most of his NFL career, 11 years, 16, some of the best coaches. A couple years ago with Miami, you could not get him out of the end zone. And he is now joining us live. So my first take is, why are you want to, do you still want to play?

Because you have been so productive. When I think of you, I think of end zone. I think of a guy that figures out a way you've got good hands. You know, you're a bully down there. Would you play if offered a gig? Oh, yeah, absolutely. I would definitely play. And first of foremost, this is like an honor just being on this show with you.

You know, I think of the world of you, man. You're definitely one of those guys up at the top that's doing unbelievable things. So thank you for having me, man. This means a lot. But yeah, no, I definitely want to keep playing. You know, why not? You know, I felt, feel good, feel great. Didn't take as much beating last season.

So I want to continue to keep playing. So I want to ask you about Mike McDaniel, because I've said before, I don't know if he's a great head coach, but I know he's a good football coach. And for you, he figured out very quickly, and I respect Mike for this. He's like, I got to feed this guy. Yeah. And so you were vital in this offense. As a head coach, what went right with Mike McDaniel and what maybe didn't go right?

What was your relationship with it? Yeah. We had a good relationship going into, you know, the Dolphins organization. But obviously things kind of flustered and went their own ways. But, you know, at the beginning of everything, there's always a good story and good telling. You know, we did everything that we possibly good to maximize the opportunities that were given to us. And then, you know, he's a great coach. You know, he listens to if guys are talking to you, he'll listen and, you know, give him some advice.

But head coach-wise, obviously, you know, the past couple years, what they've been going through is just been, you know, kind of rough. And I kind of feel bad for the players, you know, just because, you know, when you have, a coach that is so, you know, player-friendly, it doesn't really mix all that well. You know, I mean, look at the coaching history, not in just in the NFL, but, you know, MLB, NBA, you know, all these different, these sports franchises, they, they have coaches that implement toughness, resilience, you know, and that's something that he kind of missed a mark on in being a head coach. No, I think you nailed.

In fact, you were the tough quotient for him. And it's very interesting, Rahim, that you mentioned that. Because Mike, when he got hired my take, I said this on the air. I said, I know he's smart. And I know he knows offense. I said, but there is something about Mike Tomlin or Mike Rable or Mike McDonald that there's a physical stature. There's sort of a tough guy thing.

And I said, I look at Mike McDaniel is more like super smart, little nerdy, whatever. know, but you felt it as well that there was a lack of toughness in the dolphins. You felt that a little bit. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, and on top of that, to go to your point, you know, when you're talking about with guys like, you know, Mike Tomlin and Vrable, you know, some of these, I mean, even look at Belichick, it was no nonsense BS. We get in here, we're getting the job done. And it's my way at the highway. You know, it's pure. This is how we're going to coach it. You know, I'm essentially the ruler. I'm the one that's, you know, making these these gains and also the failures.

I have to accept that. But, you know, when you're dealing with a coach that's so nonchalant, laid back, wants to be, you know, the catalyst behind being a players coach, it kind of shifts that organization and the pivot, you know, within that system. So, which it can work for other, you know, other smaller league teams, possibly. But, you know, when you're dealing with something like that is, as a player, you're like, no, I need somebody, you know, tough that's going to lay the hammer down when it needs to be down and tell other players to get in line. And, you know, when you don't got that, that impact can definitely

be detrimental. Okay, let's talk Kyle Shanahan, who's always been, that's the first time. I really, you know, a lot of people saw you, you know, were like, oh, who is this guy? And again, you were a tough physical back. Shanahan is known as a running back's friend. Did you know immediately with the Niners like, oh, this is going to work? Yeah, absolutely. You know, I remember specifically, I don't want to go into too many crazy details. You know, I sat in a meeting room after one game.

I put the ball on the ground. And he grabbed me and he said, hey, look, come to my office. Let me talk to you. And at that moment, he was just asking me, hey, look, what's going on? And I told him, hey, coach, you know, you expect a lot out of me, but in practice, I don't get these looks.

in practice, I'm not, you know, getting that quality of work. And then you expect me to go into the game and do my job to the fullest. Now, yes, I'm a professional athlete. I should be able to do those things when I'm not getting those looks in practice. But, you know, I think that we need to change it up. I need to get more touches. That's how I roll. Like, you know, I'm more of like the physical, you know, let's get this thing rolling.

And then come into the game on Sunday, yeah, now you can see what I could really do. and he looked at me and he was like, you know what, you're right. I haven't seen you touch the ball all that much in practice. We're going to give you some more opportunities. And that's the type of coach that you want, you know, a guy that's going to tell you exactly what's going to happen and he's going to get it done. And that very same day, he threw me right on in,

and I got about 10 touches and everything was the rest was history. So you were there four or five years, actually, and one of the criticisms on Shanahan, and there aren't many is, man, he can really wear out a running back. McCaffrey's got three or 400 touches, but it sounds like you're like Nolan Ryan. You were better the later the innings went.

You liked the Verlander pitcher. You liked more touches. You liked the physicality of it. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. You know, and when he runs his offense, it's running back by committee, you know. But when you have a guy like Christian McCaffrey and he does exactly what he needs to do within the offense

and Kyle loves the fact that he could put him out, split him out, you know, give him even more touches because he knows what he's going to get out of that guy, you know, each and every touch. That's specific to that style offense. And that's what Kyle's been able to do all these years, even with his dad, you know, him watching his dad, Mike Shanahan out in Denver and even in Washington. You know, they both understand the running back position and what it needs to happen in order for you to get the most out of those backs. So Ashton Genty. You had a little spell with Ashton Genty, the Boise State kid.

I see about one Boise State game a year. I watch, I think it was against Oregon. He's really clever. He kind of could hide in the backfield because he, you know, he reminded me of a guy years ago that played at Oregon State named Rogers. Was it Joquoise Rogers? Jaquoise Rogers. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Now, I thought he was more explosive, but that he was smaller and shifting, he'd come flying out of the backfield. and you couldn't see him behind the big offensive line. So what did you make of Genti? First impression, this dude is made of the right stuff. Obviously, you know, he's a rookie. And, you know, being a first rounder, you have a stature about you, right?

You have a requirement. And, man, he exceeded that. He exceeded his professionalism and his growth and me even trying to implement, you know, my take and everything that I bring to the game. and, you know, my knowledge behind the game, he just absorbed it like a sponge and was really, really focused, dialed in, and listen. Yeah.

He's really a difference maker on that team, and, you know, I got nothing but love for him. He's forever a brother of mine, and he's going to continue to do great things, and I'm excited about the... I'm excited where he goes, man, in regards to his career, because he's exception to the rule.

Let's just say that. He's way better than people think, I think obviously last year, you know, he missed out on a thousand yards. You know, you could see, you know, he was only 25 yards shy. And I'll tell you what, man, if he can get that 25 yards, he would do it in a heartbeat. And no matter who's in front of him, blocking for him. I love that.

Yeah. Rahim Mostert for our radio audience listening. We're on TV as well, FS1. So, Rahim, when you played for the Niners, winning culture, good ownership, great coach. Then you played with the Raiders. and then you play with the dolphins. For our audience,

is there a difference winning team, winning culture to losing culture? Is it the little things? Or is it just like, well, I mean, because I look at the Niners, and it's like they got to a Super Bowl with Garoppolo. Brock Purdy wins. Like, it's not they,

you have to have Patrick Mahomes in San Francisco. Like, you tell me the difference between, you know, the winning cultures you played with and the ones that struggle. Is there something specific? Honestly, it's the details, you know, and the decisions. I think that that's the biggest thing that, you know, when you're looking at these teams that are winning, I mean, think about this. Have you, would you, the past three years, would you ever put together a team like Seattle to win the Super Bowl?

You know? Most people said, but they draft so well. They draft well, and they know how to get their guys in the building, and the head coach knows how to get the guys to go. You know, it's all about those details. And, you know, that's some of the things that winning teams, they figure out, losing teams, they can't really figure it out. And so when you're dealing with the team like, you know, the 49ers, they could figure it out. They could really figure it out, take it to the next pinnacle, get up to that championship mindset and ultimately the game. But they can't figure out that last, you know, drive that really can count for them in order to win the Super Bowl.

And then also with the dolphins, you know, my time there, you know, we had one of the best offenses, you know, to ever be displayed on that 2023 season. And, you know, when it, when it boiled down to those critical games, you know, yeah, people want to say, hey, look, it was the cold that messed you up. You know, you don't know how to play in cold weather or teams above 500. You can't really beat. That's just all, that's hearsay, right? It's all about execution. Yeah, some coaches can tense up in those cities. situations and some players can tense up as well. But, you know, it's all about the details and

trying to figure out how you can execute that game in order to win it. And we were just unable to do it. But like you said, winning culture, it stems from being detailed. And that goes on both sides of the ball. And it also goes within the coaching staff. If you have a coaching staff that doesn't really believe in the system, while the players want to believe in the system, you know, it's, it's relative. So you've played with Nick Bosa. and Fred Warner and George Kittle and Christian McCaffrey and Max Crosby and Brock Bowers and Tyreek Hill. I mean, you've played. The list is crazy.

Is there a player that you played with? And obviously, you're a four-year starter in the Big Ten. You've had a very successful career. You had a 21 touchdown season. If I said to you a professional athlete that you looked at and thought, as a confident player, thought, man, that guy's different. Is there one guy that stands out or two? You know what?

out of all those guys on the list, and to be honest with you, I played this past season with them. And, you know, I believed all the hype. I was listening to all the hype coming in. It would have to be Max Crosby. I mean,

and he's a brother of mine. That's, you know. I love Max. He's a regular, I love him. He's a regular, straightforward dude, his straight shooter that, you know, really, really cares about the game.

And he puts his heart and, when I tell you, he puts his heart and soul into it, he really does. and he's a professional, super professional guy. He wants to just be the ultimate competitor and ultimately win. And he hasn't had that in some odd years. And it's frustrating to see that.

You know, at the beginning of the year, I told him, hey, look, man, like, we're going to do this thing. Like, I want to help you win. Like, I want to win for you. Like, it's not about the game itself. I just want to do it for you because I know what you've been through in your career. And you deserve it just because of the attitude that you. display, the confidence that you have, and the tenacity to go out there each and every day

and put on either in practice or in the game. Now, he's played however many snaps, you know, in the past several seasons, dude does not come off the field. And you got to respect a guy like that. You know, he can go out there with a broken knee, a torn ACL, whatever, and still put it out, put his body out there on the line. Like, you know, there's no tomorrow. So just a guy like him and his caliber. Like you said, I don't play with Fred Warner. Fred is awesome. Fred is a true competitor as well. He wants to win. But when I tell you about this guy named Max, Max Crosby is the ultimate competitor, man. He wants to win, and I love it, man. He boosts everybody up around him. Well, Rahim Moster, I'm telling you, if I was a general manager watching the last 12 minutes,

I would want you on my team. I appreciate that. Led the NFL with 18 rushing touchdowns, 21 total for the dolphins in 2023. And, I mean, San Francisco, is there a team that you'd like to get call you if I said, hey,

this one team is kind of interested. Is there a one? Honestly, I would love, there's two. I would love to go to Miami. I know Halfley and, you know,

Slowick, the offensive coordinator. I know them very well. They were with me at the Niners. You know, I remember when half, he was the DB coach, and, man, I had nothing but respect for him because he had his DB, he had his DBs playing good, you know, and the same thing was slow. I know slow, I was with his brother in Miami too, so I know that family is, they're great people. And then obviously, San Fran, you know, that's, that's, that's just like home to me.

That's, that's where I felt like my career pivoted and did a lot of great things. and I want to continue to do great things. And plus, who wouldn't want to have a Christian and Rahim, you know, duo back together? You know what I mean? Like, well, I appreciate it, man. You hit it out of the park today, and I appreciate it. Absolutely.

I appreciate you. Thanks again for having me. Hey, let's do this again, man. I love the show. I swear. Oh, I love that. I love to hear it. NFL GMs, there's a running back that's interested in playing and he gets into the end zone.

Rahim, thank you so much. Thank you. We also have, by the way, Dusty Maine, Michigan head coach. Basketball coach joining us before the end of the show. They beat up on the Fighting Aligni Friday, and they are, I mean, if you had to make a bet today, I would take Michigan to win it. Michigan beats Duke. Gonzaga, Arizona, there's a handful of teams, Florida, but Michigan, seven wins over-ranked opponents,

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They've beaten 13 straight Big Ten opponent and they're blowing people out. The fighting of line I had had Michigan's number for a while, and they clobbered them Friday. So Dusty May will be joining us as we get ready to head into March Madness. Here's J. Mack with the news. No, no, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. All right, Colin, let's start with some auto racing.

I think you're going to like this. Michael Jordan, I mean, does the guy lose it anything? He just keeps winning yesterday. Tyler Reddick, who's a star driver on MJ's 23XI racing team. made history by winning his third straight race to open the NASCAR season, holding off Shane Van Gigsburne. Oh, not a good job by me. Over the final 20 laps of the Circuit of America's to seal the win,

Colin, obviously Jordan just dominates everything he touches, right? I mean, the guy is quite legendary. Great for NASCAR. Yeah. Absolutely. And he's been fighting them, and they've had a little angst in the relationship, but it's tremendous for NASCAR. Yeah, huge week ahead as well.

All right, let's quickly move to the NFL calling the Cleveland Browns. Everybody wants to know what they're doing at quarterback. Is it Shadour? Is it Deshaun Watson, Dylan Gabriel? What about Ty Simpson? Can we get Ty Simpson in the mix? There's an interesting connection here. Simpson's dad, a coach, knows Todd Munkin, the new Browns coach, very well.

And there's some speculation. Potentially, the Browns picked their quarterback, maybe trade one or two of the other guys, and go Ty Simpson. I don't totally see it. But given the. connection, the family connection, I guess there's some potential for it. What do you think? Well, probably not because they drafted Dylan, Gabriel, and Seder Sanders last year. So my hunch would be no. But, you know, I've said this about Simpson. He doesn't blow me away.

Like, I feel the same way I do about Jackson Dart. He's got a good arm and he moves pretty well, which he was a little bigger. There's no trait that I go, wow. But Jackson Dart is only one and a half percent cap hit to the Giants so you can stack the roster around. And when you get these guys, let's say Pittsburgh drafts him at 21. Well, you're allowed to have a deeper rot. Look at Caleb's roster in Chicago. Look at Bo Nix's roster. Look at Drake May's roster.

Look at Seattle and Sam Darnold with just a team friendly quarterback deal. So the truth is when you get a Jackson Dart or a Ty Simpson, you have to bake in the fact that they're going to have a better roster their first four years in the league than a lot of teams they play. We love Lamar Jackson, but when you start paying people what Lamar Jackson's making, you've got to move off three starters. I mean, Minnesota right now, because they have to bring in another quarterback's going to have to move off Aaron Jones. They're going to move off Hargrove, the defensive lineman who had a decent year. So, I mean, Jackson Dart with one more, I mean, if Scataboo and neighbors can stay healthy, they get a tight end, they've got their left tackle.

You know, Giants will be pretty good. They'll have a very good roster. So I think Simpson, if he goes to a functioning team, could be interesting. I'm just curious. Dylan Gabriel, there's a lot of chatter in Cleveland. He doesn't fit the Munkin profile, given all the quarterbacks historically for Munkin. Dylan Gabriel is a trade piece. I know you loved him at Oregon.

Do you think he would actually be valuable? This is a terrible quarterback draft. Afterman, there's a lot of questions. I don't. I don't. I think the one that's really, that nobody's talking about is Jimmy Garoppolo. Hmm. Jimmy Garapolo, the Rams, he's not playing.

And the Rams are probably, you know, they're going to try to cut costs because Stafford's going to cost some money, right? So they're, and if the reports are true that they're interested in Max Crosby, you know the Rams, I mean, they're looking at the salary cap ledger. I think Jimmy Garoppel is a guy that. They could go somewhere. You're not getting mobility. You're getting experience.

Can he just hold down the fort somewhere for a year? That's a name to keep your eye on. Okay, well, I'll just remind everybody where Dylan Gabriel's old coach ended up. How's our quarterback situation there, huh? Keep an eye on that. Not breaking any news, just floating it out there. All right. J-Mac with the news.

Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The herd line news. Well, they are crushing. crushing it and dominating the Big Ten. Dusty May and the Wolverines are on a big time heater. One of the favorites to win it all, and he'll be joining us next.

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We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember.

I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band. Before Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, for people could call in and say, hey Jonas, and then I wrote down in my little notepad,

Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Hey, I'm Deanna Maria Riva, actress, mother, and a Gen X woman walking through life one hot flash and hormonal crying jag at a time. You ladies know what I mean. I'll bet you a perimenopausal chin here you do.

So let's talk about it. Join me on my new podcast. How Hard Can It Be with the Adamani Areva, where I call on my Gen X squads from Ohio to Hollywood as we navigate Midlife's most fantastic BS. All of a sudden, I'd had hanginess happening on my own. I was like, what the hell is that? I was married when I had her, so I didn't even consider how empty that nest was going to be. Mood swings, night sweats, fupas, sex drive. Wait, what sex? Dating at 45. How high can it be getting naked at 50 with their?

new guy. That one's kind of hard. Well, that's lighting. They say we can't polish a turd, but we're sure going to try. So let's get blunt with laughs, tears, or tears of laughter, and dive into it, unfiltered and unbothered and ask, how hard can it be? I cannot believe I'm about to say this out loud in public. Listen to How Hard Can It Be with Diana Maria Riva as part of my Cultura podcast network available on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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And he knows without Luca and Austin Reeves, I got to manipulate the game. We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs. I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup, he has to really guard guys like Nasree. He has to guard Julie. it's random. And then he has to give us everything

he gives us on the night-to-night basis on offense. And when IT's friends stop by, like Quentin Richardson, we dive into some playoff history too. Steve Nass would get that thing. That man, hell get the flying. He run up the court, licking his fingers why he got the ball. Like, after you go through a training camp with that, Isaiah, you figure it out real quick.

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You know, my first takeaway watching you Friday, I'm thinking, okay, so he's rolling people. Illinois is a good team. They may have lost at UCLA. They're a good team. and I'm thinking to myself, is that coach wondering, you're going to get into the tournament, and you're going to get into close games? How do you prepare your team for, okay, you're a big favorite, the pressure's all on you in the tournament, and it's a four-point game with four minutes to go because that's the reality of the tournament. People get hot.

Is there a way to create pressurized moments when you're winning by an average of 20 points a game? well it's it's less normal for us to feel like that in those moments but we've been in a few of them and we've performed well we've made big free throws and it's such a contrast to last season where every game was four points or less or at least it seemed and so we went into this year thinking that if if a game's under four points or less there's a 50-50 chance you're going to lose the game because you're playing against a like opponent and so we've tried to make sure that we weren't in these one possession games but i do believe Because we have the ability to score at the rim and then also make three. So we don't rely on low percentage shots to win.

And then defensively, we're very sound. I think we're behind Duke now and defensive efficiency in the country. And we also have guys that make better percentage free throws than they do normally. So those things give you some hope and comfort. But hopefully we're not in a one possession game early on, especially. So you started years ago in coaching where you were going to AAU tournaments and maybe even high school. Now it's more administrative. It's, you know, it's NIL.

It's portal stuff. Let me just, I mean, you're a very youthful looking late 40s. Do you miss some of the AAU grind? Is the NIL frustrating where you're sometimes recruiting your own players to stay? How do you, how does it land for you? Colin, just by nature, I just adjust and adapt to whatever I am and try to learn as much as I can about it and enjoy it. I've always enjoyed the different.

It's almost like the season ends and you become a different type of employee where now you're a recruiter and a developer. And then when the season's there, you're trying to win games and you're scouting an opponent. So I've always, it's almost been like seasons where throughout the season, there's three or four different seasons to our job. And so the newness was always, I guess, fresh. And now when I go to city to recruit, I make sure I stop and see a couple maybe donors who own their own businesses because you might need them down the line. Yeah. And so it's just different. You go meet with agents when you're in a certain city,

are big agencies because you know over the course of time they're going to have good players and you want them to have a relationship with them. So the time is the same. It's just different. But I haven't forgotten those 8 a.m. to midnight, sitting in a gym in Vegas wondering what day it is and living off glizzies and popcorn.

By the way, I used to cover UNLV, my first job out of college, and I would see a sea of coaches at the Las Vegas Classic, and you're describing it aptly. So, Yax-Lenoborg is your best player. You've got four different guys that score in double figures. You're very balanced. For anybody that hasn't watched Michigan, they're balanced and they're big.

Your best player could have gone pro. You ended up convincing him, hey, come up to Michigan. And a lot of people, you know, that's not easy. You're staring at, you're staring at NBA money. Most of your players want to play. They want to play professional. what was your sales pitch for a kid that could have gone pro? What was your pitch to stay in college and go to Michigan?

Well, if you take the NBA out of this, the stars were aligned for us, and Yaxel that we lost Danny and Vlad. We had a proof of concept that we played our bigs in a unique style and way where he could benefit. And then he was familiar with our staff, our program, because we competed against him. He knew some of our guys.

So literally, I see everything lined up perfectly. except his desire to go to the NBA. And so he was looking for a first round guarantee. And once he realized that he couldn't get a team to give him a guarantee that they were going to draft him in the first round, then he was going back to college. Now he did get a couple guarantees for the early second round where teams said they would guarantee him and give him multi-year contract.

But he felt like he needed another year of college, especially at this level, playing against the biggest, best, strongest, and wanted to prove himself in the Big Ten. and he held Michigan in high regard because he had lived in Ohio when he was a young player. And so literally, I don't think everything could have lined up any better than it did for us and him. But we loved our roster before. So when he decided to not to come to college, I mean, he decided to come back to college, we felt like our pieces didn't necessarily fit.

We were big. We had three guys that we thought would be three of our best players that had all played the center position at their previous stop. So we thought this is high risk, high reward, but it could go poorly in this era. And his salary was well publicized. So how would that have, you know, what type of impact would that have on our locker room when he's paid so much more than anyone else? And we were very open and honest with all of it. And he came back and just wanted to be one of the guys. I think that's probably the biggest reason it's worked that he hasn't tried to be bigger than the team.

He just simply wanted to be just one of many. and try to do something special together. You know, I said with the NIL, I think not that it saved college basketball, but I said that the Billy Donovan Florida Gator teams, to me were great college basketball teams that could have worked in any era. And then there was a dry spell for about 15 years,

a lot of one and done. I thought the NBA demonized college basketball. It was a mistake. I never liked the G League. In fact, you can't name a single NBA star from it. Ignite over time. You know, I understand kids not wanting to go to college, but I think the coaching in college helps players.

I also think playing in intense arenas. That's like NBA level stuff. You don't get that in the G League or Ignite. You go, you know, your game Friday, that place is a zoo. It's loud. You can't hear. It's, it's caustic. So my take is NIL has actually European guys coming to the States,

keeping guys like your best player in college. I feel like when I watch college basketball today, it is noticeably deeper and better than five years ago. But I'm, you know, I'm a layman here. Does it feel like when you're watching basketball and tape, it's like there's just more NBA dudes on the floor now in college? Yeah, Colin, I think what you, the things you said, the OTE, the Ignite, they're the part of the reason things are the way they are.

And if you just take all the peripheral stuff away, the actual product is better than it's ever been. There are more teams. There's more great players. It's more competitive than ever. I know when I turn on the TV tonight and watch a couple games, and I'll be blown away at how good the teams, the coaching. And then even if these guys come to college at 21 or 22, they're learning a lot as far as being professionals. Even take the classroom out of it.

What we learn from 18 to 24 changes the way we think, the way we move as adults. And so I think the longer people are on college campus is the better for them. Now is it better for an 18-year-old freshman, no. But this has always been a meritocracy. The best players have always been able to get the scholarships or the NIL, whatever the case. And that's never going to change. And it's the same way in the NBA, the best players get the best contracts and play the longest. And then they have the say when it comes to the players union and all the decisions that affect those below them.

All right, Dusty, May coach of Michigan, big win over the fighting a line. Now, they're talking about this whole expansion. And listen, college football playoff, the networks want it. I'm not naive here. I get the whole game. But I kind of like the way it is. I'll be honest with you. When you hear about March expansion, what do you make of that?

Once again, if I died and came back as the czar of college basketball, I wouldn't expand the tournament right now. But if there's a compelling case of why it's better for the interoperable, enterprise of college basketball, then I would be all ears. I think every time there's been change, it's been met with resistance based on nostalgia. Yeah. And if the TV networks want it, if it gets more, if it improves the experience for more players, then it keeps teams more engaged for longer periods, which makes the games meaningful in February,

then it wouldn't be hard for me to change my opinion or be persuaded in that way. I just don't know. I haven't put enough time in it because I don't have any say. So I just, I take it for what it is. If we expand great, if we don't great, we'll have our team ready to play ball. That's kind of how I look at all these issues. Yeah, I like our staff cut some video of Michigan. Your guys' size is incredible for a cut.

I mean, you guys are just big, big and intimidating. Okay, finally, you had a viral moment against Michigan State earlier this year. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say you actually enjoyed this. It was, you were silently taunting Spartan fans. Take me to that moment. Yeah, Colin, it's completely, I'm completely out of how I am by nature when I'm, when I'm coaching now, where I'm a small, fiery Irish guy that probably gotten more fights growing up than I had easy days.

And once I got into coaching and had a family, I basically just left all that behind and became a borderline pacifist. So now I just, when people have road rage, I just kind of, I'll shrug it off. If people get mad in the line, I just shrug it off and let them go in front of me. So if a bunch of 18 to 22-year-olds who were probably overserved beginning of 8 a.m., what a yell and scream acidities at me, let them go ahead. It's all part of the game. I enjoy watching European basketball and the stuff that goes on with that. So I think it's part of it. There's nothing any of those people can say that's going to get a rise out of me. So yes, in a way, I did enjoy it. But just for the fact that

those kids are never going to be able to get under my skin. Yeah. Well, I'm married to an Irish wife. You're an Irish guy. Overserved happens. That's just life. Is it not? All part of it.

Yeah. Great seeing. A great meeting you, coach. Congratulations. You put together a daunting front court and a really interesting program. And congrats, and I love to have you on the show today. Thank you, Kyle. I enjoyed it.

I appreciate having me on. Dusty May, Coach, a man. Michigan, I'm telling you right now. And our staff did a great job cutting some of the video. When you watch Michigan play, Jay Mack, you love college basketball. They are big. They are, I mean, they are a big front line. They've been a cash cow most of the season because they just obliterate teams.

I mean, their resumes are incredible. I think they probably win the title. Rematch against Duke will be fun. Also like Florida a lot. They're dangerous. All right, that was good seeing. Coach. Rahim Moster, way to go, young man.

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