The Herd with Colin Cowherd - The Herd - Hour 3 - Remembering Mike Leach

Episode Date: December 14, 2022

2-time Super Bowl Champion Danny Amendola joins the show in studio to share memories about his former head coach Mike Leach   Guest: Danny AmendolaSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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has had an amazing life. He was at one point a Ford model. He's a humble guy. I don't want to talk about that. He obviously an undrafted guy who played in the NFL for a dynasty. Also got eight games in last year with the Texans. He was the oldest player in the league along with Matt Slater. He played with Matt Slater.

He's got a million stories to tell. He is on a new show called Special Forces, World's Toughest Test. It premieres. This is going to be, I can't wait to watch this. January 4th on Fox. So I want to play a clip of Danny in this. If I didn't get a full scholarship coming out of high school, I was going to join the military. Yeah, I know how hard it is to get to the top of the top in my sport.

Go! To be introduced and have the opportunity to work with the 1% of the 1% in the military. It's a dream come true. It's going to be a very humbling experience. I'm here to learn, to adapt, and to grow. Was it fun or stressful? It was wild. I mean, by far the most craziest adventure I've ever been on. We're jumping out of helicopters. You know, you can see we're climbing up into Apache helicopter floating on buoys. We did a lot of crazy adventures. It was basically a bunch of ex-athletes, Olympians, some celebrities got together and tried to, you know, train, fully submerge ourselves in the military lifestyle. You know, we're out in the middle of the Jordanian desert, you know, sleeping on cots. And we wake up every, every, every, every, you know, we're in the military lifestyle. You know, we're out in the middle of the Jordanian desert, you know, sleeping on cots. And we wake up every, every single morning with our feet hitting the sand like i mean we're in the military so we're a full

submission to to to them so it was awesome good for you yeah i i hope people appreciate um the sacrifice people make in our military yeah you're a professional athlete and were you kind of exhausted when it was over i was i lost 15 pounds i mean we they they limited our calorie intake to like six 700 calories a day sleep deprivation kept us up all night me and me and me and Dwight Howard had a lot of laughs. And we stayed up all night, one night on the watchtower, had to secure the base. You know, we were fully in the military lifestyle.

So, you know, I gained a huge appreciation for what the military does for us. And I got back home to Texas, and I was kissing the ground when I got home. And I was just so happy. Let's, from happy to sad, you then went to Texas Tech and played for Mike Leach for four years, right? Yes, sir. Let's take us first of all to your recruiting experience the first time you met Mike. Yep. So he actually, he offered me a scholarship when I was a sophomore in high school.

And I played slot receiver in high school too. So I saw Wes Welker come through Texas Tech. I knew I wanted to go to Tech and catch a bunch of passes. I loved his air raid offense, his aggressive style of passing the ball. I knew I wanted to catch passes and have fun. In college, he offered me a scholarship. I committed when I was a junior. And I knew I wanted to play for him.

I didn't entertain any other. coming out of, you know, high school. And, you know, the recruiting process was awesome for me with him. And we had a great relationship. We have a great relationship up until, you know, a couple of days ago when we unfortunately lost him. But I was with him in Key West at his little bar, went out to see him, and we sat down for three hours and talked about life, talked about family, talked about football.

And he's a very close friend of mine. You know, I'm going to miss him dearly. And he's just a special, special individual. one of America's great sports storytellers. Yeah. Oh my gosh. He can go, he'll go on tangents and he'll try to explain the run game or pass it past game to you and he'll somehow go to girls softball and then it'll somehow, you know, he'll have some crazy tie into it.

And then he'll, you know, come back to, you know, what he's trying to prove. And you'll get a crazy different perspective on life. And he was just an amazing, amazing person. So you know Tom Brady about as well as anybody. I've always theorized with Tom that he likes to be coached hard. I do believe at the end in New England is a very smart guy. He saw what was happening to the league. They didn't have the weapons.

And he was like, you know what? I want a little bit more say. And I need better weapons at 43 years old. That was my takeaway. So he gets that in Tampa. Yeah. But I go back to this. And I said this, Danny, when he arrived in Tampa.

Tom is disciplined, driven, academic, tough, resilient. I covered Tampa for two years. It's squirly. It's loose. It's fun. Yeah. It's you date them, but it's not, it's not who Tom is. Yeah.

And it worked. Yeah. But I honestly think New England or the Niners are at his core what he is. Yep. Does that make any sense? Absolutely. He's from the San Francisco area. Obviously, he grew up there. That's a team that he loved Joe Montana growing up. He's verbal about that. He loves that organization. Obviously, he was drafted by the Patriots and played there for a million years. So, you know, that's in his core. Will we see him play for another team? I'm not sure. But I know he's playing at a high level. I don't think he has the weapons that he had past couple years. You know, he's missing Gronk, obviously. You know, had some injuries with Godwin. early. So, you know, he's got some good tight ends. Braits good. He's got, you know, a good back. And he's got some weapons. I don't think the weapons are what they used to be a couple years ago

when they wanted. But, you know, he's still playing at a very high level. You know, he's throwing the ball well. Obviously, he knows how to operate. So, you know, I mean, as long as he's on the field, he's got a chance to win. So I was, you know, I hold the Patriots, having lived in Connecticut for 10 years through their dynasty. I hold them almost to a different standard. They were always the smartest team on the field. Belichick's brilliant. But even brilliant people make mistakes. Yeah. I don't like a defensive coordinator calling plays. Yeah. And I think Mack Jones has regressed and it's not an indictment on Mac. Yeah. I want you to explain this to the audience that there's nothing against the defensive coach. Yeah. But the offense is a different language.

Yeah. You guys are, it's just, I mean, most of your buddies, aren't they offensive players? They are. Yeah. And I love Matt Patricia. You know, he's a brother of mine, man. I played for him. He brought me over from Miami to Detroit. So I got, you know, I got to link up with them again. And he's a good, he's a good coach, man. He understands, you know, defenses and how to attack the defense as an offensive player.

I think one thing that Josh McDaniels did for us that maybe, you know, can't be replicated anywhere else is that Josh could tell you what to do and why you're doing it. Whereas other organizations and other coaches just, you know, I played for 17. team. Tell you what to do. Yeah, they just tell you what to do. They say follow the indicated line on the page. They don't tell you why recently. I learned so much from Josh McDaniels and Tom being in that offense. And it's just hard to duplicate that, hard to replicate. And, you know, you kind of see it. You know, I watched the game the other night versus the Cardinals on the flight out here. And, you know, I like the play calls they ran in that game. Given, you know, what the Cardinals were doing against them.

They blitz a lot more than any other team. So they're trying to get into these screenplays to the receiver's quick little passes and try to break a long run as opposed to going downfield. I'm more acclimated to going. I love going downfield, vertical passing game, putting stress on the defense. They don't do it. They don't, I haven't seen that. But then again, he hit a couple scene balls last game that looked really good.

I see Mack Jones progressing in terms of he's looking off safeties now. He can anticipate coverages. They're playing tricky coverage. now disguising coverages and he's picking it up. He made a great throw. I think it was to the, to Henry and the scene ball. Two great scene ball throws to Henry downfield. I love to see more of that.

You're pretty good friends with Jimmy Garapolo. Jimmy G., yep, that's my boy. So now he gets banged up again. Yeah, sad. And so his free agent market will be pretty thin. Yeah. You know, I always said, if you grow up and look like Jimmy G,

He's a great looking kid. Seriously. Women fawn over him. But that does create a confidence. He's not an insecure guy. Correct. So he played behind Brady. He literally, last year, they wouldn't give him a playbook.

And I said, do you know how few quarterbacks are secure enough in themselves to let that happen and not get bitter? Take me inside Jimmy G's personality. He's such a unique guy. Like he's been to Super Bowls, but I don't see a lot of public. ego. Right. Yeah. You know the thing about Jimmy is I think he learned a lot from Belichick and Tom in terms of worry about what you can control. And you see him in the preseason working out on his own on the field. They don't want to, they don't want anything to do with him. But he's coming in, he's smiling. He's a good teammate. You know, he's working his tail off

on the side and they're going younger with Lance. But at the same time, he's worrying about what he can control. That's right. And, you know, Lance goes down. Next thing you know, next thing you know, man up. He's up. And I think he's a top 10, 12 quarterback in the NFL. I think he's talented. You know, he made some some great plays, even as a Patriot, as a young player when Tom was suspended.

So you came in. When you played or practiced with him, you felt he threw a big time ball. Absolutely. He came in as a first, second year guy, and I remember we connected on a Blitz Zero check. We're playing Miami at home one year. Blit Zero. He's a young guy. Tom would have got to a, you know, a check

and he did the same thing. And I was like, And we ended up scoring a touchdown on the play. And I'm like, that's a, that's a five, six year quarterback what they're doing. And he's out here, you know, making checks. He's calling all. He's operating. And, you know, I feel like he's a top 10 quarterback in the league. So the, so you're out of the game.

You played eight games last year with the Texans. Now you're doing TV shows. Like Brady, you clearly still have an itch. If you got called by Brady in San Francisco, So trading deadline, Debo down and said, Danny, we need somebody who knows. This is what he wants. Tom wants somebody who knows him. Yeah.

Danny Gray goes down. Yeah. Would you play? Absolutely. Tom, I mean, Tom's done a lot for me. And if he needs me, I'd always play for Tom. You know, I'm happy not playing. You know, I got enough football.

I played for 14 years in the NFL and, you know, played a lot of football. My knees feel better on Monday this year, you know, watching football from the couch. But of course, if Tom called you, I'd have to go back if he'd summon me out of retirement. Well, you had 60 catches in the playoffs. Take me to, like last year you played eight games. I want you to take the audience. So there's a lot of weekend warriors. J-MAC's a weekend warrior.

So take me to a Monday. How old are you? I'm 37. Okay. What do you feel like on a Monday after you had a couple of catches, you had to block, and what do you feel like? Knees are swollen. I had to take like every, every Monday I had to take 20, 25 ccs of inflammation out of my knees. And that just gets old after a while. You know, you're constantly getting your knees drained and you're playing on AstroTurf so it's not real friendly for your body, your joints. And, and, you know, it's a rough game, man. You get hit three or four times. It's like three car X. You know what I'm saying? And it's a rough game. It's definitely taxing on your body. It comes, you come to a a point in your career where, you know, you've played enough football, man. It's, I think, started when I was 10 years old.

I had 26 years of football in my life, a season to get ready for. So it was a long journey. And honestly, I'm very, very happy with how far I've come from being undrafted and getting to walk away on my own and play the game that I love. So it was a dream come true. Okay. January 4th on Fox Special Forces, World's Toughest Test, Series premieres. Wednesday, January 4th.

I really want to watch. I love You know, there was a show years ago. Joe Rogan hosted it. Fear factor. Okay, now that was obviously not military. Right. But they would ask people to do crazy stuff. Yeah. And like, you know, walk on a field of ants

or something. And I always, that was my first introduction to who Joe Rogan was. Yes. And he was doing that show. And I was weirdly attracted to that show. Yeah, very similar. Very similar. It is the same thing. Like, we're asking you to do really uncomfortable stuff without a question you're facing every fear that you have ever had you know water fire tear gas i don't want to spoil it much but at the same time were you ever scared

oh every every day every day and and the one of the most taxing things during the show was that we didn't ever we never knew what we were getting into so we'd pull up to a mission and we'd we'd jump out of the the SUV and we'd run up to the to the mission and we had no idea we have two seconds of debriefing and then we have to respond quickly. Wow. Yeah. It was constantly stressful, exhausting. Well, just like our military.

Without question, yeah, they fully emerged you into the way of the life. You're eating, drinking hot water, like no showers, no bathrooms, no cell phone. We're in the middle of the desert for 10 days. We're sleeping on cots in a tent together. And once you really focus on. surviving, and that's your only job, you know, you tend to lean on other people more and you, and you have to help as much as you can and give as much as you can. That's why military people are so close. Without question. Oh, we have a, we all have a bond together, and we were with each other

yesterday doing some stuff here on Fox. And it's just great to see everybody. Everybody keeps in touch, and we have a lifelong friendship from just the guys that were together. That's incredible. It was unbelievable. Danny Amandola, what an absolute pleasure. Good seeing you, man. to see you too, Colin. Thank you. For all your success. I really am genuinely happy. Thank you, sir. I appreciate it. You bet. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the IHeard Radio app. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human

potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A win is a win. A win is a win.

I don't care which I'll say it. Yep, that's me, Cliver Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger, than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement

to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment. And the next, we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music.

The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast. It's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something better. So if you've ever supported me or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be. Listen to The Clifford show on the IHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. Do you remember when Diana Ross double-tap Little Kim's boobs at the VMAs?

Or when Kanye said that George Bush didn't like black people. I know what you're thinking. What the hell does George Bush got to do with Little Kim? Well, you can find out on the Look Back at it podcast. I'm Sam J. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick it here, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. Including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill, waxing all about crack in the 80s.

To be clear, 84 is big to me, not just because of crack. I'm down to talk about crack on day, but just so y'all know. I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack. So I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have AIDS on the table right now. Thank you for finishing that sentence. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Really?

Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. J-Mac, who's starting to have some success in his life. He's starting to listen to me. He's starting to have more success with the news. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news.

This is the herd line news. Starting to have some success. You know, I did have this little website I sold for over seven figures. But who's counting? Who's counting? All right, let's start with Trevor Lawrence. One of the best games of his career, I think, Colin. 368 yards passing four total touchdowns.

But Doug Peterson isn't ready to say Lawrence has arrived as a star QB just yet. He said this Tuesday on the Rich Eisen Show. He's on his way to there. I would say he still has some room to grow, you know, and get better. But he's definitely taking steps in the right. direction. You go back and look at the beginning of our season, and, you know, we were a little bit careless with the football, and situational ball wasn't quite there yet. Just understanding details of the game and understanding situations of the game, and this is where his

growth has come. So funny how things change quickly, right? Four weeks ago, two was an MVP candidate. Today, he was not looking great, and Trevor Lawrence looks awesome. Yeah, I mean, he was number one high school quarterback, number one college, quarterback, number one pick. He is a, you know, he's Peyton Manning, number one at every level. I think he's going to be really successful. But it does take time for the light to go on. And for him, it was Thanksgiving of his second year. You know, I talked about this with Daniel Jones. To me, because these kids get way more reps than quarterbacks did 20 years ago. So it used to be you'd give a guy three full years. Like Eli pops in year four, let's say.

Now I believe you have to give him until Thanksgiving of their second year, and that is exactly when he popped. If you go back to his last four to five weeks, he's a different quarterback. Do you get that little break during Thanksgiving maybe? You know, people have film on you. You have film on them. He is clearly in the last four to five weeks is a different quarterback. Very interesting matchup with the Cowboys this week.

What do you think? I think Dallas probably wins this one. I do too. I feel like whenever, Dallas is more talented. They're not in a rebuilding mode. They played very poorly. Jacksonville by winning, you know,

nobody's sleeping on Jacksonville. It's very easy to sell your team on. They just blew out the Titans. I mean, the Titans don't get blown out. They pasted it. I mean, they get blown out by like the bills and good teams. Jacksonville laid the lumber. Impressive stuff from Trevor Lawrence.

Next up, NBA recently announced they would be renaming their annual regular season awards, as well as debuting a redesign of the trophies. Because obviously there was a need for. I didn't love the redesign of the trophies, but I like the name of them. So the MVP is going to be named after Michael Jordan and won five MVP. The other award, the Hakeem-E-Lajawan Trophy for Defensive Player of the Year, the Wilk Chamberlain trophy for rookie of the year. That's weird.

Odd. John Havlicek Trophy for the sixth man. George Mike and Trophy for Most Improved. Karim Abdul-Jabar Social Justice Award. Kareem, I mean, nothing wrong with Social Justice, but should be. writing pretty well on social justice. No, I'm not denying me. How is that an award? Kareem's one of the smartest professional athletes in American history. What does that have to do with basketball? I don't. Well, I would say this. You know, to be honest, if you ask Kareem, that may mean more to him. I'm sure it does. But in the context of NBA season awards, it just feels like a little odd.

I will say this. Did you see, show the award again, the MJ award. Do we have the picture of it? It doesn't look like MJ's shot, does it? I don't have a problem with him. Yeah, like, when did he ever shoot like that? That looks like Odell Beckham going back for the cast. No, I mean, I could argue it looks more like Kareem. Yeah. I don't know.

I don't mind the award. I like the people they chose. I have no problem. I just think the aesthetic that the, that doesn't look like a Michael Jordan shot. You know, this feels like a baseball move. Let's not forget the guys from back in the day who were awesome. I know all these young pups are coming up, but let's not forget. George, Mike, and like, all right, sure.

It just feels forced, doesn't it? Okay, a lot of people. I don't want to take shots at the NBA here. You know, Fox doesn't have the NBA. We can fire away. No. Here's why I'll defend the NBA. Because the NBA, more than any sport in for us, is about the individual.

The NFL, it's a collective. Baseball. I mean, your bullpens as valuable as your home run hitter. Yeah. There's two sports in the world where the star really changes everything. Soccer, messy, and basketball. So if you're going to have awards, they should be named after individuals because that's what the sport is based on.

It's based on individual greatness. It's not a shock that Jordan won a bunch and Bird won a bunch and Magic one a bunch, and LeBron won a bunch, and Steph wins a bunch. The greatest all-time generally are part of dynasties, Duncan. And so I like naming awards after individuals, not commissioners or not, because basketball is very much like soccer, the Ronaldo, the Pele, the Messe. What's the NFL MVP award named after? Nobody, right?

Again, but that sport, I never feel like as good as a quarterback is. If he's got a bad old line, I mean, Andrew Luck's the best young quarterback I've ever seen. John Elway didn't win squat. He got blown out in Super Bowls before Terrell Davis. Andrew Luck didn't ever win big because he didn't have a defense. I can start going in on Michael Jordan taking advantage of a down NBA in the 90s after Magic left

and Bird left. It was down? It was the expansion era. They added four teams who were dumpster fires for like three years. You think the Celtics were down and the pistons were down? Well, yeah, the Celtics were done. The 80s run was over by the time that Michael Jordan dominated in the 90s. It was a weak, depressed NBA. Trump Barkley's on record saying this when he was playing.

Barclay. But you can't ask Barclay about that. I'm going to way off topic here. They're going to yell at me. Final story. Moving to baseball. San Francisco Giants, Colin, this was a bit of a stunner late last night. A 13-year deal? I thought this was dumb, but Carlos Carrera, 13 years, 350 mill.

I mean, it's a great player. More than the other short stops on the market in Trey Turner and Zander Bogart. It's the fourth largest contract in MLB history behind Trout, Mookie Betts, and Aaron Judge. Colin, I had to look up Carrera's stats. He's a great player. Correa. Sorry, oh, apologies. Houston and Minnesota.

By the way, yeah, what artist? He's a great. He's an All-Star. He's been an All-Star three times in... No, he's been an All-Star twice in his career. He's never hit over 26 homers, never over 100 RBI. I'm assuming he's a great fielding shortstop. He won rookie the year.

Well, I mean, I'm going to hire... Never finished top three in the MVP? 350 million? What? 13-year deal. Isn't that crazy? I don't even want to go look at my mentions after they. this because I butchered his name and I'm like saying he's not amazing.

No, no, no, no. These stats are pedestrian. Well, he's, what's Bryce Harper worth? Well, Bryce Harper doesn't play short. This kid's, this kid is the center of your infield. He's the key to your infield. He's the new Cal Ripkin, right? Well, I'm saying there's a reason, the two places, the two positions that get paid now,

pitchers, with all the analytics and short stops. So there's a reason baseball execs are paying pitchers and short stops, because the analytics, that's where the game's leaning. So he's a great player. I don't have a problem with the money or the player. 13-year contract? I'm going to hire Scott Boros and go to Fox and say, Coward wants 12 years or he's walking.

13-year. I mean, he's set, his kids are set. The grandkids, the great, great-grandkids, the great-grand. Generations are set up for this guy. That's awesome. I'm happy for him. Who signs, I wouldn't sign Mahomes to a 13-year deal. And you get to live in San Francisco, right?

That's a beautiful place to live. The city, I mean, I don't want to say it's an upgrade from Minnesota. It's only $170 million contract because California is going to take half. Listen, I like it here, but you know, it is what it is. A little outrageous in the old taxman comes. Oh, here we go. Jay Mack with the news. Well, that's the news.

And thanks for stopping by. The Herd Lie News. Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific. Hey, what's up, everybody? It's me, three-time Pro Bowl of LaVoy, Arrington, and I couldn't be more excited. to announce a new podcast called Up On Game. What is Up On Game, you ask? Along with my fellow Pro Bowler, T.J. Hushmanzada and Super Bowl champion.

Yep, that's right. Plexico Burris. You can only name a show with that type of talent on it. Up on Game. We're going to be sharing our real-life experiences loaded with teachable moments. Listen to Up on Game with me, LaVar Arington, T.J. Hushman Zada and Plexico Burris on the IHeart Radio app. Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast from.

Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth.

Listen to Superhuman on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me, Cliford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show.

This is a place for Raw, Unthink. filtered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment, and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast. It's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So, if you've ever supported me, or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be. Listen to the Clifford show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. Do you remember when Diana Ross double-tap Little Kim's boobs at the VMAs? Or when Kanye said that George Bush didn't like black people. I know what you're thinking. What the hell does George Bush got to do a little Kim? Well, you can find out on the Look Back at it podcast. I'm Sam Jette. And I'm Alex English.

Each episode, we pick a here, unpack what you? went down and tried to make sense of how we survived it. Including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill, waxing all about crack in the AIDS. To be clear, 84 is big to me not just because of crack. I'm down to talk about crack on day, but just so you all know. I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack, so I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have AIDS on the table right now, so.

Thank you for finishing that sentence. Yes. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Really? Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Save up to half on your wireless plan. Switch to consumer cellular.com slash the herd. promo code is the herd. So we're going to play Win, Win, Placer Show, sort of an ode to horse racing, right? win, place, or show.

You'll give me three options on a variety of NFL questions. J. Mack, are you ready to go? Of course. All right. Here we go. Of course I'm ready. Win, place or show. Win, place or show quarterback that wins the MVP.

Mahomes, Josh Allen, Jalen Hertz. Win Jalen Hertz, place Mahomes, and show Josh Allen. Here's the reason why. because Jalen's a better story. Mahomes has won it. So my take is writers and media tend to vote for the better story. Hertz is also, by the way, 15 and 1. He's winning more.

Win Placer Show, Hertz, Mahomes, and Josh Allen. Okay, Win Placer Show. Which 2020 first round pick would you want most? Burrow, Herbert, Tua. I would go Burrow, Herbert, Tua. Burroughs the first quarterback ever selected number one and reached the Super Bowl within two years.

He is the ultimate winning quarterback. Herbert's the raw talent. He's place. He gets a medal. He is an unbelievable talent, but he's not winning enough. He's a 500 quarterback in this league. And Tua, no reason to take shots, but I don't get the size, the arm. or what I believe is the playoff pedigree of Joe Burrow.

Win Placer Show, which veteran quarterback would you want next season? Tom Brady, Aaron Rogers, Matt Stafford. I would go, win Stafford Place Rogers Show Brady. Stafford is only 34 years old, has one of the top five strongest arms in the league. When he is upright, he's excellent. his career completion percentage, by the way, is 68%. So I think he's got at least three really good years gas in the tank. I like that they've sat him.

They're going into next year. They're going to give Baker Mayfield some run. I think he'll be healthy and ready to go. So I would go win, play show, Stafford, Rogers, Brady. I wanted to argue with you on that, but I don't, I can't make a case for Brady over Rogers. I give me 46. Yeah.

Win, Placer Show, 2020 first round pick. would you want most? Trevor Lawrence, Justin Fields, Mac Jones. When Trevor Lawrence, place Mac Jones, show Justin Fields. Fields is 5 and 17, and he's still making a lot of mistakes. Mac Jones doesn't make a lot of mistakes and has been to the playoffs. So I feel I have a more refined product now in Jones. Fields has more talent. I'm not denying the talent, but this league's not about talent, about winning games, and Mack has gotten into the playoffs. So you're on record.

Mack Jones over Justin Jones. You're at your fields right now. I've got injuries, very few wins, and a lot of talent and mistakes. Okay. With Mac, I don't have the talent. I have a playoff berth. If you go look at Max opening first year stats without a number one receiver, he threw for 3,900 yards and completed like 67% of his throat.

Also got Benz for Bailey Zappi this season. Hey, nobody disrespects Bailey Zappy on this show. What was the presidential campaign for Zappy? I forgot already. If Mac plays like crappy, go with Bailey Zappy. That was my button I wore. Win Placer's show. Which current backup quarterback has impressed you the most?

Brock Purdy, Sam Darnold, or Mike White? I got to go win, Purdy, place White, show, Donald. Mike White, back-to-back games, without a touchdown pass? Brock Purdy, you got to be honest about this. Just like college, he moves the chains, he's really accurate. And I can make an argument. If you look at the play calling, Kyle Shanahan thinks he's just as good as Garapolo. They didn't change the play calling.

In fact, I'd argue it was more aggressive at the end of the first half, and they wouldn't have thrown to IUC late with Garapolo. If you swap Darnold and Purdy on their teams, that would probably change. Purdy is a more accurate thrower of the football than Darnold. That is in now and now. Sam is bigger, stronger, and more athletic. That, but he's also more reckless. Finally, win-place show, which rookie wide receiver has impressed you the most?

Christian Watson. Woo, he's good. Chris Olave. Whoa. Garrett Wilson. I'm going to go win. Garrett Wilson. Place Christian Watson Olave show.

So Watson has exploded in the last month, kind of invisible for the first month. and Garrett Wilson, considering the quarterbacks he's been dealt with in the old line, you don't get to run the complete route. He's got like almost 900 yards, four touchdowns. Again, Flacco, Zach Wilson, Mike White. I think he got yourself a star. Did you see what he did to Tredavius White this past week? He's just annihilated him.

No, he's really good. And Jets got to get kind of the, they got to get their own line right. The defense is fine. They've got a great corner. They have to clean up the O line, but I like their P. Like the Giants have to clean up the O line and figure out receivers. The Jets, they just got to clean the O lineup. And it's a good year in the draft for the O line.

Three or four great centers, six or seven top tackles. Jets can clean that stuff up. All right. That was fun today. That was a rambunctious show. J. Mack bringing the big, big boy heat. All right. We'll see you tomorrow.

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