The Herd with Colin Cowherd - THE HERD - Hour 3 - Robert Griffin III stops by The Herd

Episode Date: November 10, 2025

Heisman Trophy winner Robert Griffin III joins the show to discuss why he believes the Giants should hire Lane Kiffin, and breaks down what’s really going on with Aaron Rodgers and the Pittsburgh Steelers offenseSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We will get to that. I want to start with the Brian Daibald firing. What I don't like about it is Jackson Dart is your guy. They have a great relationship. Just let it play out. You're not a playoff team. Let it play out for the year. Then, you know, if it's Kafka, if it's Mike McCarthy, whatever,

your takeaway on firing a coach now with a very suboptimal roster, scataboos hurt, neighbors can't stay healthy. What do you? Or, you know, Matt Hasselbeck said, bring Koffkin for six games. seven games left. Let him trial run. Where do you land on that? Yeah, I think they need to get rid of everybody. I don't love the fact that they fired Brian Daibble at this point in the season. You're two and eight. Normally when coaches get fired in season, it's because you already know the guy that you want to go get and you want to get ahead of that or you're thinking it's going to spark the team.

This team is out of the playoffs essentially. They're not going to turn this around going if he did down the stretch and find a way to sneak in. So I don't love that part of it. But what I, what I really hate is that they attached a rookie quarterback to a head coach in the GM that were on the hot seat again. And I watched this with Chicago and I brought this up and I got caught a lot of flag for it, Colin, because I said that I didn't think that the bears

should connect Caleb Williams to Matt Iberfluse, who was a head coach on the hot seat. Because then you put your young quarterback in a situation where he's going to have his second head coach and his second play caller in his second year. And the biggest thing for young guys is stability. So now you sit here and I didn't know what the Giants are doing in the offseason when they brought in Russell Wilson and James Winston and then went and drafted Jackson Dart.

But here we are. So I think the only rightful decision for them to make now is to go higher Lane Kiffin as a coach because that's the only guy that knows Jackson Dart better than any other coach in the NFL and is going to be able to get the best out of him to where Dart isn't going to have to now go into a new situation and learn a whole new terminology and a whole new way of doing things. Kiffin knows them better than anybody. Also, you know why? That's a great idea. I had Kiffin in Miami. But Lane's been a head coach, USC, Ole Miss, NFL. When you try to go, it's hard to be a head coach.

To go to New York and be a first-time head coach, I mean, the talk radio, the fans, it's hard. So that is really, that's a great idea. I want to ask you, Caleb has been the opposite of J.J. McCarthy. Caleb's great late. J.J. early. J.J. on the first drive. What is your takeaway on Caleb's performance during this winning streak?

Kind of it unlocks later in the game. Are you okay with that? I am okay with it because it's really about Caleb and Ben Johnson finding a way to win. And, you know, I listen to what all these guys say because you can hear how they really feel in what they're saying after the games. And Caleb Williams talked about Ben Johnson and he said, you know what? We're like a two-punched tandem. And the trust of the guys in the locker room and the coaching staff has been a real big thing for them. He talked about how Ben Johnson's information that he's providing him and giving him, helping him in preparation,

has gone a long way with him to be effective at the end of games. And what that is to say is, if you remember last year, there's the article came out about how Matt Eberflous and the staff weren't really teaching Caleb Williams how to study in the NFL, how to break down NFL defenses and how to do those different things. He's getting that now from Ben Johnson. And it makes it to where he trusts what he sees when he's on the field. Sometimes when you go into an environment that you don't really know, Colin, and you don't really know what you're supposed to be seeing, it's really hard to pull that trigger. Caleb is doing that, especially in critical moments. So I really believe that him and Ben Johnson are winning, and I know that the teams that they've beat over the last six weeks,

then they've won six of the last seven, have a combined record of 1533 and 1. But in the NFL, you never apologize for winning games. Winning games is really hard. So they're building their relationship by winning the games in front of them, and I couldn't be happier for them. I said earlier today, I said, I figured out every team in the league, it took me 10 weeks, except Pittsburgh.

I don't know what I get. I don't know what I get week to week, half to half. Claubbed New England, drop the Colts, lost to the Bengals, blown out by the Chargers, Green Bay. If you ever been on a team, usually you get a sense what a team is. Now, everybody has a stinger, but you kind of get a sense of what a team is. what does it tell you that Pittsburgh week to week is a totally

different team energy focus production performance why yeah Colin it's the first time I've ever felt like the Pittsburgh Steelers don't have an identity right normally when you think of the Steelers you think they're going to

run the football and they're going to play great defense well they can't run the football and on defense they're ranked 30th in the NFL against the pass. So their defense isn't great. They don't have a consistent identity week in and week out. And part of me thinks it is because there might be a little bit of conflict in the play calling. I watched them on fourth and goal and Aaron Rogers through that back shoulder

fade or what looked like a fade to D.K. Metcalfe. And it looked like he signaled that to him or was a decision that he made. But he had Pat Friarmooth coming wide open right around the down marker, which would have put them at first in goal, but he didn't go there. And when I watch some of the tags that they run, Rogers is notorious for adding tags to run plays and being able to have the flexibility to do what he wants in those situations. I don't know if there's a complete trust there between Arthur Smith and Aaron Rogers when it comes to the play calling and how they're executing the offense. And that's a problem because Rogers said he needs to play better.

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and if you're going to be the number one pick, you probably got to come out. And then Dante Moore in terrible Iowa weather is making a throw up the right sideline. You're like, let's talk both those guys. I think you have to come out if you're the first or second pick. I agree. Let's talk Mendoza first and then Dante Moore.

What do you see from those two? Yeah, first thing I see from Fernando Mendoza is his ability to command a room. Like when this guy talks, you know, I think this past weekend he said, I'm willing to die on the field for my teammates. Okay. Well, tell me an offensive lineman or a coach or a GM that's not going to hear that and be like, I don't want that guy.

They would all want that guy because he seems to be all about ball. And I was, the drive was super impressive and his ability to make those big time NFL throws with pressure in his face. But I was even more impressed with the last one for the touchdown. I know it was an amazing catch by Omar Cooper Jr. But the fact that Mendoza made that throw in that moment, literally getting his face knocked off and just gets up and walks off like it's nothing. That to me, it was his Heisman moment, 100%.

But it was also the moment that every NFL scout is going to look at and say, that's my quarterback. He's got all the measurable, he's got all the intangibles. Yeah. And Dante Moore played in lousy weather. He moves better. Yeah. To me, he, again, he's just slick.

he is a 2025 NFL quarterback. And he's supposed to be the nicest, most humble kid. What do you see with him? Yeah, I think for Dante Moore, it's everything that Mendoza has that Dante doesn't, he makes up for with his playmaking ability. I think Mendoza's got the big arm, the big body, the frame, and he's got the toughness. Dante's got all that in a little bit of a smaller package.

But when I watch him throw, because I'm calling their game this week with Jason Benetti and Alex Atlanta story against Minnesota, when you watch him throw, it's just like the ball always gets to the right place. And I'm going to say this, and maybe people might get mad at me about it, but he reminds me of if you put Dylan Gabriel and Shadur Sanders in the same body. That is what he has, because for Dylan Gabriel there in Cleveland right now, there's a little bit of like what's missing. I think Dante has that. He has that special playmaking ability inside of him.

and he doesn't unleash it all the time, but you saw it on like a 40-yard run against Iowa this past weekend. By the way, you've been joined by somebody behind you the couch. Who is the... It's one of your slot receivers. It's my two-year-old Gia.

Gia, come out here. Come on here. Come on, Gia. Come on, Gia. She's over there playing with the Funko Pop. She's having a good time. That is awesome. Hey, great stuff is always, my man. Thank you, Robert.

Appreciate you, Colin. God bless, brother. All right, thank you. Really good stuff. The Aaron Roger stuff is fascinating. All right. J. Mack with the news. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. All right, let's go to the Buffalo Bills, Colin. Brutal loss for them to Miami.

Oh, on the road. Now, the reports coming out that Josh Allen was down with the South Beach flu. so maybe this should be excused. He was quite bad. The brutal Red Zone pick, the fumble. My guy James Cook did not cook, had a bad fumble. It was just an all-around let-down performance, which shouldn't surprise people. We try to educate the folks, don't we, Colin?

Hey, you beat the Chiefs. There probably is going to be a letdown against Miami. Anyway, here's Josh Allen on his team's gross performance. They came ready to play. They wanted it obviously a little more than us. I got to be better I'd be better in the protection game in the past game

and the run game all of it you know it's anytime you turn it over three times and two in the red zone really you could count that last one driving kind of going into the red zone so that's a recipe for disaster it was 90 degrees in Miami

a little hot under the collar for Josh and company well I you know I I get that I mean I do get the northern teams come down and it's hot Like, I do get, but it just, to me, they, no energy. I mean, you have to account for that. Like, if you know, guys, it's going to be hot, we're going to wear out.

Then you have to have a great first quarter. You've got to just sell to your team. We've got to come out. We're going to have 12 scripted plays. We got to be dialed in because we're going to fade in this weather. We don't play in this weather. We don't practice in it. But to be just out, man, 16-0 at half with Josh Allen and James Cook.

that's not good enough. They didn't have 90 yards. 0 for 6 on 3rd down in the first half. 90 total yards against Miami's D. Yeah, it was weird. Now, I'm not excusing the bills, but again, this is a week-to-week league. You know that.

Colin, I'm seeing reports that they were down but at the end of the game as many as five defensive starters. And Tua looked good other than two arm punts. Two will look pretty good. Waddle look pretty good. I got to ask you. Tampa Bay at Buffalo this week.

Buffalo laying five and a half at home. What's the lean there? Remember week to week league. Tampa, by the way, got smashed at home by the Patriots. It's early. I shouldn't put you on the spot. Buffalo's my play here. Yep.

Yeah, Buffalo's my play. Now, we've got to see the injuries. Obviously, they're going to need their defense. Because Baker, Abuca and Baker, they've got some, like, mind meld going on that's very good. But I think Tampa's a little overrated, and I think Buffalo bounces back strong. Don't write them off yet, folks. Next up, the Detroit Lions. I can't tell if people are making too much of this or not,

but let's get into it here. So before the game, there was a port from NFL network that Dan Campbell might be calling the plays. Well, Campbell takes over the play calling. However, there's some dispute as to when it happened. Was it full game? Was it half time? Anyways, here's Dan Campbell talking about calling plays instead of his OC, John Morton. I know what I want to do.

I know how I want to do it. Now, that being said, this is a collaborative effort now. It was honest. It was he and I, and we were good. And it's like I told, man, I need you. You know, I need you. And but I feel like, you know, this is something that I'm going to do. And listen, John Morton's all team, man.

That's all he cares about. Yeah, that's not ideal. Well, listen, you know, at halftime, something seemed to change. Our staff is hot on the idea that Jameson Williams, somebody got the memo at halftime, maybe Dan Campbell, that Jamo was unhappy. He was force-fed in the second half. Did you see him kind of go off? Yep, absolutely.

To a point, you know, they need James and Williams to develop. We know Leporta and Amara Gibbs, Montgomery, but they could use Williams in the postseason against some of the elite teams. I am curious, though, this was against a Washington team that is total crap. They've given up so many points and yards in the last four weeks. they've lost each of those games by 21 or more points. So are you ready to crown Dan Campbell or do you need to see it next week against, I don't know, the Eagles before we say, yeah, Dan Campbell knows what he's doing.

Well, he knows what he's doing. I just think your bigger issue is you lost the best O.C. in the league, and now you're taking over duties. You can put as much makeup on that story as you want. That's not ideal. That's not what you want. And Minnesota, you know, Brian Flores had a good game plan last week. and kind of bodied them.

I don't want to overreact here if I'm Detroit, because again, this Washington team is rotten. Colin, there was a lot of quit on that team. I think Detroit scored on their first seven possessions to start the game. Just up and down the field. Washington's the oldest team in the league. Pittsburgh's the second oldest. They're both fading fast.

Ooh. That's a nice little hot take. Or will Pittsburgh bounce back? I mean, I feel like Washington, it's over. It's over. Pittsburgh could come back next week and win by 14. I don't know what they are. So I only made one bet last night.

Washington, do you want to hear about their game this week? So after that bludgeoning at home, where they were boot off the field, stands were empty in like the fourth quarter. Washington goes to Madrid to face the Miami Dolphins. But after Madrid, Washington has a bye week. So I wonder if the wives and girlfriends are like, hey, let's just make it two weeks in Europe. Let's stay away from Washington. I think Washington's totally done.

I think Miami's the side this week. It's a little early to talk, but when you're hot, you're hot. Any thoughts, Miami, Washington? Well, Mike McDaniel, a bit of a resurrection. We had him fired three or four weeks ago and he's had a couple impressive wins. So remember the coaching staff at Miami. The owner in Miami said GM is gone. We believe in Mike McDaniel.

So he got, now it's a public vote of confidence, but I will say this. By giving the coach a public vote of confidence, he still has leverage with players. or at least some level of respect, well, they responded. So twice since that story came out, Miami's played excellent football. They deserve credit. Yeah. Final story, Colin, is Monday night football. Micah Parsons and the Packers hosting the Eagles.

We're on opposite sides here. But we want to remind everybody that Philadelphia made a push to land Micah Parsons when the Cowboys were allegedly thinking they would trade Parsons. Of course, Dallas said they had zero interest in sending him to a division. rival. According to a report, Dallas did not want him going to the Eagles so badly. They are included a poison pill condition in the trade stating that if the Packers send him to any team in the NFC East, it'll cost them a 2028 first round pick. Jerry Jones really does not want Micah in Philly. So that's a fun little subplot. Well, I mean, you don't even want to

send him to an NFC team. And if you do, you're going to make sure he's not going back to burn you in division. So for years and years, there was kind of a rule. You never trade a star in conference. So the fact that they did that, Dallas is like, okay, we'll do it. You're not sending him to the Giants or the Eagles. It's not going to work out that. And so I think Green Bay doesn't want to trade him. I mean, they didn't give you all these first round picks because they're going to move him. And he's a very good player. He's in his prime for the next five years. And I think it's very, I think Green Bay accepted that for a lot of reasons. It's reasonable. and they're not moving off Micah.

If I told you today, I see Green Bay and Buffalo in the Super Bowl, you would say, not going to happen. If I told you it is Rams and Kansas City, you would say, I think the Rams pick is good. I don't know if KC is a playoff team, Colin. I'm sorry, they got Denver this week. Favored Bigley on the road. Okay.

Jay Mack with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping you. The Herd Lie News. All sorts of stuff. Oh, boy. Okay. Yeah, Brian Daibals out in New York.

These New York football operations, I mean, the Giants looked at the Jets and said, oh, that worked out so well firing solemn mid-season. I think we'll just copy them. Oh, brother. It's the herd. Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd, weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the IHeart

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network on TikTok. So Giants fired their head coach Brian Daebel. The guy that will be the interim former NFL player, Mike Kafka. He's interviewed for several jobs, has not landed those jobs, but Matt Hasselbeck a couple of hours ago on Kafka and the Kafka and the move going forward for the Giants. And they're going to do a full search on anybody on the planet that they think can help get it right but they have this guy that they're this is like a little bit of an audition i mean he's the guy for the last what like three or four years his name surfaces every time because they think that

he's a great quarterback whisperer let's see his personality is completely different than brian dable brian dayball's got it wears his emotion like you see it you know it my kathka's not like that so it's an opportunity for the giants to see what they have yeah um we'll see i mean again quarterback NFL has a connection with Jackson Dart. Let's see how it works. Robert Griffin came on. He's got a different idea for the Giants. I think they need to get rid of everybody.

I don't love the fact that they fired Brian Daibble at this point in the season. You're 2 and 8. Normally when coaches get fired in season, it's because you already know the guy that you want to go get and you want to get ahead of that. Or you're thinking it's going to spark the team. This team is out of the playoffs. But here we are. So I think the only rightful decision for them to make now is to go hire Lane Kiffin as a coach.

Because that's the only guy that knows Jackson Dart better than any other coach in the NFL and is going to be able to get the best out of him. Yeah, I'll tell you, strike when the iron is hot, and right now on Lane Kiffin, the iron is hot. If I'm Lane Kiffin's agent, which I'm sure it's Jimmy Sexton, he's everybody's agent in college, I did the NFL. It was a mess. It was old Al Davis and the Raiders. You can always go back to college.

Lane Kiff and Jim, you can always go back to college. You're not going to get a New York Giants offer again, right? And by the way, Ole Miss, this is about where it's going to be. Kailen DeBore is not going anywhere at Alabama. Kirby Smart, not an NFL guy. He's got to go to college. as good a college job is you're going to have at Georgia. So Kirby Smart and Kail and DeBore are humming.

Texas A&M has boatloads of money, and everybody loves that coach. Sark's going to probably make it for some time at Texas. So it's a very crowded SEC, or you can go to the NFL. You're going to make a lot of money. You already got your quarterback and you like him. now Matt Rule to the NFL didn't work,

but I didn't necessarily, first of all, that organization and that owner at that time, highly temperamental, very erratic. The Mars aren't erratic. I don't know if they're highly competent, but they're not erratic. I don't know. I'm just saying if I was Lane Kiff and I can come back to college,

and Texas A&M's got more money than all, Miss. Georgia's got more money than Old Miss, and Alabama's got a much bigger brand than Ole Miss. Well, what about LSU? The governor runs the program. No, thank you.

So I'd go pro. I would go to Miami or the Giants if I was Lane Kiffin. Colin, can I throw a curveball at you? And I'm not saying that this job is better than the Giants. But the Tennessee Titans job is open. It is in a much

more winnable division. Hold on, Hold on, because we don't know if the Colts are going to be good. Let's just be real. Do we know Jacksonville's mired of mediocrity and the Texans seem to be flailing? Okay? Philadelphia Eagles are not going anywhere. And Cam Ward was the number one pick overwhelmingly. Are we sure the Giants' job is better than Tennessee?

Because the GM right now in New York, I don't know how the hell he's still employed. He has made blunder after blunder, extending Jones, moving off Barkley. I mean, I don't know how he's still got his job. I don't know that I would definitely take the Giants over Tennessee. Well, you would probably have more pull in Tennessee. The media in Tennessee. How are they to deal with? That's what I thought. I mean, you go to New York.

Those guys are rabid. They want wins. They think that this is still a franchise that won a bunch of Super Bowls with Parcells. You know what the New York football operations are now? And like this is understood in the league. You use them to get a better offer. Mike Brable was rumored to be with the Jets. Oh, please.

They didn't want to be with the Jets. He wanted to be the Patriots job and Josh McDaniel. That's what people do in this league. Harbaugh was rumored. Oh, Jim Harbaugh, New York. New York football operations are used by the top guys to end up going places that are better jobs. Just like the New York Knicks for years.

Remember all the Kevin Durant, LeBron, all this stuff. they were never going to go play for Dolan. And now you got Woody Johnson and the Mara family. And honestly, how many wins did you say in the playoffs for the Giants in the last decade? Is it one? Yeah. That Daniel Jones went over Minnesota. Yeah.

I just don't think it's as great of a job as everybody else does. Well, no, I think, I mean, listen, there are, in the NFL, the job is as good as the quarterback. If you have a quarterback that's good in his prime, like when Mike McCarthy got the Packers job, that was a great job. Aaron Rogers, late prime. That's as good as it gets. I think Mike McCarthy getting DAC. That's a really good job. Harbaugh getting Herbert.

That's an A job. But most jobs, that's what I'm saying, Jackson Dart in the building, and you've coached him for three years, Lane Kiffin, that's a pretty good gig. Let me ask you. What's the ceiling on Jackson Dart? Can he be a top 10 quarterback in the NFL? At this current time, he can't.

stay out of the tent. So he can't really be. So I don't, again, I know people are going to be like, you're an idiot. That's fine. I would rather have draft picks galore like the Jets than be wedded to, well, let's see what Jackson Darts got for another year. I just, I'm sorry. Whoever gets Fernando Mendoza from Indiana, that is an A prospect. I like him a lot. He is a nice drive against Penn State. First of all, Brainiac, major league size, big boy arm.

I mean, there's not, and he can move enough. He's an A prospect. Like, Caleb was an A prospect. Drake May was an A prospect. Jayden Daniels was great, but he was spindly, and we worried about that. Jackson Darts a B prospect. Cam Ward, probably a B-plus prospect. You don't get many A's.

You get about every other year. Joe Burrow was an A prospect. Peyton Manning was an A prospect. You don't get a lot of A prospects. Most of these guys, to me, they're all B prospects. I like Dante Moore. Mendoza's an A prospect.

He's got multiple years of starting, though, Mendoza. Well, he's also big with an A arm. Yes. Morin Simpson, like again, I like Simpson a lot, but it's one year. Is he a 22, 23-year-old? The first super senior dominating him.

Ty Simpson when he was Alabama. He didn't play for three years? For three years, if you were all that, 29 of 55 with no touchdowns, he was a 55% completion guy. I mean, he was... Backup duty, yeah, yeah. Or 48, 50, say, yeah. I mean, he just wasn't, and all of a sudden now he gets to bore the right OC, the right receivers. I'm, I, Mendoza's doing it with B-level talent. They don't have a lot of five-star guys in Indiana. Yeah. And here's the best part if you're the Jets. not to take it away from the Giants.

You draft Mendoza and you don't like what you see, and Aaron Glenn doesn't work? You just move on. You got three picks in the first round the following year. Which apparently is a really loaded draft. I don't say this very often. Mendoza is going to work. I like to think he would. Yeah, that's an NFL quarterback.

Mendoza is an NFL. If he goes drafted number one or two, you're like, yeah, that's what it should look like. Can we see him against the Ohio State defense, which is freaking elite? Nobody is going to move the ball in Ohio State. Well, I want to see him do it. he do it? Can he look? No. You don't think he's going to be able to at least be competitive in that game? Competitive.

Well, yes, competitive, but I don't think he's going to move the ball particularly well against Ohio. Ohio State's got one of the best defenses in the last 15 years. If he vomits all over himself, you know, nine of 25, 75 yards passing, I think then we got some real questions because that defense has some NFL dudes on it. Well, you know, Penn State's defense. We saw Indiana play Notre Dame last year. Who had better players? and Ohio State's got

defensively much better players than Notre Dame had last year. Yeah. By the way, Notre Dame's a sneaky team to go deep in the college football playoff. They are built, great coach. How good is that running back love? Jeremiah Love. He's awesome.

Oh, by the way, New York Giants, do you at least call Marcus Freeman? Absolutely. I think you have to. You have to. If you have an NFL opening, you've got to ask Marcus Freeman. He's probably not going to take it,

but he is, I just think that guy's freaking awesome. one of the best coaches in the country. All right, good stuff today. Tonight's Packers, Eagles, I like Philly. I think getting Jalen Phillips. I think they grabbed a corner, Jair, Alexander. I don't know if he's going to play tonight. But yeah, they had some pickups.

I'll go Packers 2723. Your score? Reverse it, Philly 2723. So it was it was that I had a winning, blazing five week. I took all favorites. I took it. One underdog I took, did not work. Yeah, I took four favorites. Three of them won, and I took the Steelers last night, and that wasn't even competitive. Is that five straight winning weeks for you?

No, no. I was 4-1, 4-1, 4-1, 2, and 3, and 2. Oh, okay. Nice that you remember all of your weeks, Colin, huh? You do that when you're hot, right? Yeah. Nobody remembers the start of last season. For the record, I didn't love the numbers last week. you've seen the numbers today?

You mean the lines? The lines, yes. Yeah, yeah. The Patriots are huge favorites against the Jets on Thursday night football. Six of seven winning weeks for Lazing 5. Six of seven winning weeks. Glad the staff is all over that.

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