The Herd with Colin Cowherd - THE HERD - Hour 3 - SPECIAL GUEST: Robert Griffin III stops by The Herd

Episode Date: September 29, 2025

Special guest Robert Griffin III (RGIII) joins the show to analyze the rising star power of Oregon quarterback Dante Moore, and explains why AJ Brown is a key offensive weapon for the Philadelphia Eagles defending their Super Bowl titleSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Eight years in the league, now Fox Sports. He's got the cowboy hat on. He is ready to go. RG3. Robert Griffin is now joining us live. It was a cowboy hat weekend. I'll tell you that. It was nuts.

Saturday and Sunday. Let's go back to Saturday. I said this. When Nick Saban left, Robert, I said, Kalyn DeBore was the best, most courageous hire you could do because it would have been easy to go, oh, let's get, let's go get Dan Lannning. He's from the South. Let's go get Davo.

He's got a Bama connection. And Greg Burns, like, no, I'm going to go all the way to the Pacific Northwest. And I said, that takes guts. The Bama people didn't want to hear it. I thought Robert he out-coached Kirby Smart. I thought that was a coaching classic. What do you make a Bama's win on the road? Well, you're making a lot of great points there, Colin,

and that's why you're in the position that you were in. And I'm going to, first of all, I want to say, thank you for having me on the show. I'm completely honored to share the airways with you. But when you look at Kalin DeBore, I agree with you. He did out coach Kirby Smart, but it was more than that. I thought that Kalin DeBore has always been a hell of a football coach.

He's won every single where that he's been. And for him to take on the championship, of replacing the greatest college football coach of all time. Some might argue the greatest coach of all time in Nick Sabin lets you know how much he believes in himself and his staff. But after the loss of Florida State, I thought he was self-aware. He understood, you know what, I'm not getting it done the way that I need to get it done here at Alabama, and he changed his identity.

And for a coach who's won in multiple different places to make that admission and step in and say, you know what, we're going to come up with a new slogan. we're going to say, don't let up, no mercy. Why did he say that? It's because Alabama had kind of lost its luster a little bit. It had lost its fear that it had put into people's souls when they stepped on the field with them. And his quarterback, Ty Simpson, stepped up to the podium, took full responsibility and said, I will be better.

And he's been better. He's been one of the best quarterbacks in all of college football. So I wonder what the Alabama fans are saying now. Right. Listen, success is hard, and it doesn't always happen quickly. I always joke. Sabin lost the Louisiana Monroe's first year and got smoked by Utah his second year. Now, he took over a bit of a mess, but it's hard to take over Alabama, the NIL, the portal. You're losing guys now.

I want to talk about, I said going into the year, I liked Drew Aller's potential. I watched Dante Moore. Robert, if I had a number one pick in the draft, I would take Dante Moore. That kid's composure, I mean, you played in this league. was blown i mean i thought he was good i was blown away by him what say you had yeah yeah dante more is climbing up draft boards faster than any quarterback in the country right now uh and it's because he proved one simple thing he proved that the tools that he has can travel to a big time playoff atmosphere and that his poise overcomes all of it when you look at dante more there at the end of the

game when they needed him the most he went on the play action bootleg we call him naked when you don't have a backside blocker, he stepped up in the pocket and he hit Gary Bryant for a touchdown. When his team needed him the most, he stood tall. And when I watch his tape, what I'm so impressed by is the simple fact that he transferred from UCLA to go sit for a year at Oregon behind Dylan Gabriel. It shows me that he understands he needed to be developed. He understood that it takes patience to make that happen. And what do you see when you watch the tape? You see calm feet in the pocket. You see him staying in rhythm, not forcing the football to any one particular guy, but allowing the ball to go where it's supposed to go on each play versus each coverage.

NFL coaches absolutely love this young man, 14 to 1 touchdown interception ratio, eight guys in this big time matchup caught a pass from him. It lets you know that he's processing it well. And in today's modern NFL, you have to be able to operate in the pocket, but you also have to have off-schedule answers. and Dante Moore has that. He showed that with his ability to run,

with his ability to extend plays. So I'm right there with you. He could very well be the number one pick in the draft. Okay, well, one more college question. Then I want to go to some NFL stuff where I think you'll have a really great perspective. So I defended Lincoln, Riley. I was at this game.

I defend him scoring with a minute 55 left because I think when you're on the road, don't get cute. Like if you can get into the end zone, get into the end zone. The bigger issue is they brought Deanton Lynn on as a de coordinator a couple years ago, and I thought he was tremendous. And the defense is getting softer.

And I don't necessarily blame the D.C. I don't know if it's because of the way they practice. They're now getting pushed around by Illinois. And I know the kind of, I mean, I'm sorry, Robert. I know what their NIL money is. And I know what they recruit. That shouldn't happen. Who do you blame?

Is it, is it this offense that maybe at practice, you know, don't develop toughness, but I feel like, oh, here we go again, another Lincoln defense that can't make stops. And I know you know this very well, Colin. You're out there. You're around a lot. You're around the program. And when I look at this defense, I agree with you.

I think that it's the defense that's holding them back. Look, against Illinois, they gave up 12.4 or 12.6 yards per attempt to Luke Altmyer in that Illinois offense. You're not going to win in those. situations. Yes, they're getting a ton of sacks, but they're giving up way too many big plays in the secondary. And I was able to call their game against Michigan State with Jason Benetti and Alexa Landa story, amazing crew that we have there for college football. And they dominated that game in Michigan State. And I agree with you, it's not the NIL. It's not that they don't have the playmakers.

This team is filled with high-level recruits. But in my talks last week with Kyle Whittingham, the head coach at Utah, he talked about how it's almost impossible. to have a great defense when you truly have an up-tempo offense. Why? Because it's putting your defense out there on the field more often. For Utah, they average some of the fewest plays played per game for their defense. And he really believes that the longer your defense is out on the field, the more opportunities you're going to give up in explosives,

the tighter they're going to get. And guys who aren't fresh don't play well. They say fatigue makes cowards of us all. So I wonder if that's a question that Lincoln Riley has to have. acts himself because at the end of the day, it all falls on him, Colin. He's the head coach. He's the high price money-making guy that was brought in there to make them a championship contender.

So make the decision. Are you going to go truly all the way up tempo and score as many points as you possibly can like we used to do back at Baylor in the day? Or are you going to try to play this game where you kind of slow it down to help your defense not be on the field as much?

I think I know the answer to that. I think you do as well. They're probably just going to try to outscore everybody. So I want to shift to the NFL because you were a profoundly athletic. You could move. You could throw. And I think Caleb has both of those. And somebody told me years ago, they said, listen, if you're born with a great singing voice or develop it at an early age, you'll sing in the car, you'll sing in the shower, you'll sing.

Because God gave it to you and it's special. And I think there's a burden being a great running quarterback. Took Steve Young years to develop the pocket stuff because he was so damn athletic. And I watched Caleb and I watch Ben. and I think Ben's a structure guy. And I think Caleb can play in structure, but man, he's got horsepower. And go back to your career.

How do you balance? Well, I can take off and get a lot of these first downs with, okay, play with the coach's structure. Is it a fight when you have the ability to move? I wouldn't say it's a fight when you have the ability to move, but you've got to have the right relationship between the head coach and the quarterback. So right now, when I look at,

at Ben Johnson and Caleb Williams. I feel like they're the perfect yin and yang. Caleb is the laid back, you know, going to wear the funny, funny clothes and not be super hype type of quarterback. And Ben Johnson's the type of guy who's going to stare a hole through a sideline reporter if they ask him a question about his offense.

Okay? That yen and yang to me works for them because what Caleb lacks Ben Johnson has and what Ben Johnson lacks Caleb has. Now, when you look at the last two weeks for them. He throws four touchdowns and literally eviscerates the Cowboys defense. He's feeling good about himself. Well, guess what happened this week against the Raiders? Wasn't the cleanest game, but in late game execution, he goes and he leads his team on a game winning drive. I still believe

that Caleb Williams is learning how to not color outside of the lines, but they're finding ways to win games, and that's going to make that growth process even better. The more they win, the more success they have, the more belief they're going to have in one another, and the more belief this team is going to have in one another. You can see them celebrating on the sideline and feeling good about themselves. That goes a long way. Winning cures all. And the bears right now at two and two are winning.

So, listen, A.J. Brown is showing to me great patience because, I mean, he really is. We've got to give him credit. Like, I don't care if he's reading a book. Every time they put a mic in front of him, he's very patient. He says the right thing. and I think to myself, they targeted him nine times yesterday. They're trying. They got seven yards.

And it worked against the Rams because the Rams could use length and physicality. It's the only weakness on the Rams. They don't have a kind of a physical corner. They let Jalen Ramsey go. They're a little small. They don't have that. So it works. But I'm watching yesterday, and my takeaway is,

this is a long season, Robert, and AJ's being real patient. I don't know if this thing, would you consider? they're so deep, would you consider saying, listen, we need another corner. It's just not vital to our offense. We're going to move AJ, get a draft pick in a corner, or do you just put your head down and try to make it work? It's like a marriage. It can't be this hard. You shouldn't have to go to therapy every day.

It just feels like it doesn't fit. Yeah. It's the dilemma you get in when you have a guy like Jalen Hertz, who I do believe. as the top five quarterback in the NFL because he makes the winning plays. And sometimes the winning play, unfortunately for the Philadelphia Eagles, is not throwing the football to A.J. Brown or at least throwing it to him and not completing it. It's one of the more confusing things that happened this weekend for me, because when their offense is clicking, who is the guy that is really making it go?

It's not Jalen Hertz. It's honestly, right now this year, not Sequin Barclay. It's A.J. Brown. when they put up points, AJ Brown is involved. When they have to make a drastic comeback like they did last week, AJ Brown is involved.

So I honestly don't put this on Jalen Hertz. I put it on their offensive coordinator. You have to find ways to get him easy completions. I always use this analogy when we call games. You see a team go on a 15 play drive and they've got a couple trick plays and they've got a bunch of different crazy things that they're trying to make it work.

And it's like in a basketball game. You see the teams that do the thumbs down bounce passes, right? And they get the open guys to the basket and they make the easy layups. Well, right now, the Eagles aren't doing that. They're not making the easy plays. They're not getting him the easy screen catches, lining them up in the slot and having them run option routes, keeping him away from double teams and not just putting him on an island on the outside where they can roll coverage to them.

They have to find ways to get him that easy cut to the basket where he can make the easy layups early in the game. So you're not looking at him in the third quarter like, hey, AJ, where you at? He's like, I don't know. You're not getting me easy completions, guys. I'm a dynamic player. You see when he has the ball in his hands how special he is, that is the job of

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And, you know, in baseball again, you can play to your 36. in basketball, you know, a guy can shoot, he can stay in the league forever. I get A.J. Brown being, you know, I mean, I think he's showing, I don't know, I think it's tough. I don't think fans quite understand how hard it is to be this gifted and have seven yards. That is hard. Colin, it'd be like, you know, Kobe Bryant, and you're like, you know what, we're not going to give him 30 shots tonight. We're going to, we're going to give them five. You know what I mean?

Like that's never going to work. You saw how aggressive Kobe was when he played the game. So for AJ Brown, the only reason I don't say trade him and get him out of Philadelphia is because when it comes down to it, when you get late in the season, when you get into the early rounds of the playoffs and potentially try to get to another Super Bowl

to make yourself a dynasty, it's not going to be about the X's and the O's. It's going to be about the Jimmy's and the Joe's. And the Eagles are a better football team when A.J. Brown is on it than they are when he isn't. So that to me is why right now you've got to focus on the X's and the O's. And your exes and O's aren't good enough because your best player is not getting the football. You are tremendous. Robert Griffin knows his college, does his college and pro stuff. You know, many years ago at a volume party, if I recall you and your beautiful family.

That is correct. And it's great seeing you again. I'd love to have you on again. Thank you so much. No, I appreciate you having me on Colin, and I'm honored to be your teammate, brother. All right. That's great stuff. Some good points. You know, it is interesting that he used Kobe Bryant. I think we had talked about this a couple weeks ago.

Like, you know, in most professions, you're an accountant. You can have prime years for 15 years, a painter. But there are professions. Like, you got about six years in the NFL because of all the injuries. You got about six years. about 24 to 30 for a receiver. Those maybe 31. Those are your big years.

So I get the frustration. A J-Mack with the news. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. All right, Colin, let's revisit that Bears, Raiders finish. Just gut punch for me and anybody who had the Raiders. But I will say, listen, it came down to a game-winning field goal.

All these seemed to go against me this year. Here's the call of the blocked kick by the Bears. It's good. Spanppers blocked the kick. They blocked a field goal on fourth and three with 32 seconds to go in the game. The Bears blocked the kick. They're going to sneak out of Allegiance Stadium with a 25-24 win. Yeah.

Go ahead. I know you're excited. Your bears with a big win. They're your bears now, right? They're not mine. They're yours. Not all wins are pretty. Buffalo yesterday did not play well.

Not all wins are pretty. I mean, when Baker led to come from behind win against Atlanta, that's one of the ugliest wins of the year. So take them. Big picture, okay? Last week you went and said Bears 8 and 9, okay? Well, a lot of things changed around the league this week because it's a week-to-week league. I don't want to get dramatic here, but that win could be, you know, the impetus for a bit of a run here.

So they get the buy, then they come out against Washington. Michael Pennix just went up and down the field against Washington. that defense is going to get exposed, okay? They're not great. Colin, after that, it's the Saints. And we know the Bears are probably going to be favored to win that one outdoors. That Ravens game, I don't know what's up with Lamar. I don't know what's up with the defense.

Sure, the Ravens are going to be favored at home, but I don't think they're a slam dunk to win that. And you start looking at that, and you're like, oh, we don't have to face Joe Burrow in week nine, you know? So I'm not saying Bears are going to the playoffs, but I'm just pointing out, like, that win showed me, like Caleb Williams is growing. There is definitely growth from,

from week one to week four. There's some real. I mean, Washington, New Orleans, Baltimore, and Cincinnati, out of the buy are defenses that are trying to find their way. Baltimore's debt was down six or seven, sorry, six seven, huh? Six or seven defensive starters midway through that game against the Chiefs. And then they face a series of teams that aren't offensively consistent. Giants, Vikings, Steelers, Philadelphia. Well, J.J.J. McCarthy will be back for that Vikings game.

Yeah, that's what I'm going to have. My point. So all of a sudden you're like, oh, is there a world that, you know, the early by, because their secondary is beat up. And I think the good cornerback who had one of the interceptions yesterday got dinged up late. I'm not saying they're going playoffs, but I'm saying there is certainly optimism off that win, right? Oh, I think absolutely. I think you feel great if you're Chicago.

They've been a terrible road team for like ever. But I mean, under Iber flus, they were the league's worst road team. So you just take it. And I guarantee you that flight from Vegas to Chicago was a great flight to be on. Yeah, certainly. All right, let's go to Monday night football, Colin. Jets Dolphins tonight, Justin Fields is cleared from concussion protocol. He's ready to go.

Dolphins are favored by two and a half. I'll just, I'm only over here. I don't love anything about either of these defenses. Jets' defense has sneakily regressed badly. It's early. And the dolphins, historically, with Tua, have moved. the football in these guys. So I'm over 44 and a half. I don't really have a feel on the side. There's this Anthony Weaver video going around. He's the defensive coordinator of the dolphins

about how him talking about, we're going to be violent on defense. We're coming out, fired up. We'll see what Breece Hall has to say about that. But I think this could be a really good game. I'll go 30 to 27. Somebody wins. I don't know. Yeah, I think I'm, I think you're in the right space. I think there's going to be a lot of points. and I think Denver, which should have two more wins, has kind of played with their food. I think Denver plays well tonight offensively, and they have not this year.

All right, final story is college football, where your guy, Dante Moore, outdued the immortal Drew Aller. Poor Drew Aller. He ends the Notre Dame playoff game with that bad pick and then just an abomination of an interception in overtime. James Franklin, and I don't think you could kill James Franklin for this,

but they'd have a bad start. I think they were stuck on three points for most of the game. Franklin talked about his woes against top ten opponents, and he owned it in the post game. I get that narrative, and it's really not a narrative. It's factual. It's the facts. I get it, you know. But I try to look at the entire pitcher

and what we've been able to do here. But at the end of the day, we got to find a way to win those games. I totally get it. They're passionate. And when we win, there's nothing better. When we lose, there's nothing worse. So I get it. I get the frustration that comes with a fan base that is invested and cares.

Yeah, my take is you're at home. You have the best backfield in the country, a top five offensive line, and you have really good defensive personnel. To me, that's a game you have to win, and they didn't. And I've defended James Franklin, but you've got to win that game. I mean, Dante Moore had not played in an environment like that. Oregon's young. Oregon's a college team traveling 3,000 or whatever, 3,000 miles, whatever it is.

That's a game you've got to win. Like, it's not Bama, Georgia. Georgia doesn't have to win that. Georgia's won a lot of big games. Ohio State's won a lot of big games. That's a game. You get Oregon. That's the biggest stadium Dante Moore's ever.

played in. You got a ball control offense. And I thought Drew Aller just looked pedestrian. Yeah. They played too conservatively, Colin. There was no imagination in that offense. That's the knock on James Franklin. He recruits, but it's not a lot

of, there's not a lot of, you know, there's not a lot of juice. You didn't not feel like a many Pacquiao fight where neither side wanted to make a mistake and it was just very safe boxing throughout. I'm like, dude, you're at home. You got the whiteout. I get that for Oregon. Like if I was Oregon, I'd go into the first quarter and I would feel out.

I think that's one of those games. If I was Penn State, I'd have trick plays. I would put the pressure on Oregon. And I thought Penn State played a little bit like a road team. And it's like, no, no, no, you're at home. Most of the time in college football, when two good teams meet, take the home team. In the NFL, it doesn't matter. They say now the NFL home crowd is worth a point. I think, I think Penn State, that's a seven, eight point advantage. Dan Lending admitted that after the game. And I think you go in if you're Penn State and you take big cuts. As remember, this was, I think it was 173, Colin, in the third quarter. Oregon was rolling. Like, you can't have that. Now, final note is you have, just repeat your national championship right now.

Is it Oregon and who? I would say, if I had to bet right now, I'd say Ohio State, based on what I've scene. Ohio State, Oregon. I can't trust Penn State. I mean, if you lose to Oregon at home there, I can't trust you. And Texas isn't good enough offensive. Can I give you a sleeper? Alabama. Well, Alabama's for sure. The Notre Dame Fighting Irish. Mr. Carr looked amazing in SEC country. That's Arkansas.

But still, I mean, Arkansas's a good SEC team. They're going to put up to me. They just fired their coach. I know, but still, come on, man. It's Carr. A young quarterback going into Arkansas. You can't go to Fayetteville and expect to get a done. I watched the highlights of that game. Arkansas played with eight players defensive. Stop!

It was eight-man football. Notre Dame had 42 at the half. Listen, man, it was impressive. Carr, he might be like a top five quarterback in the country. It's Beck, Dante Moore, and I think Simpson for sure, right? From Alabama? If you ask GMs, I'll text one after the show. I can't believe Dante Moore would not be the number one pick.

He looks like he's ready to go in the NFL. He was rolling. out. I mean, that kid looks good. And he was a five-star recruit, I think, out of Michigan. He went, I did a UCLA. Then, UCLA, then Oregon, he sat. So he's got some maturity. Imagine that. Sitting for a year helped. Arch set for how many? Okay. I'll stop. That was a, I'm telling you, in college football, that is a hard place to win.

And Oregon, if you have a great coach and a great quarterback in college, you can win anywhere. And I think that's what Bama has. I think that Ty Simpson's really, I don't think he's Dante Moore, but he's good. He's throwing darts. Just like Jackson did. J-Mack with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by.

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Mahomes hasn't done that for over two years just seven on seven pitch and catch it's the herd be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon eastern 9 a.m. Pacific hey it's us the Jonas brothers and guess what we have some big news what's the news news news we created

our own podcast called hey Jonas we invented a podcast well we didn't invent it we just contributed to First people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts. We're starting a trend. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember.

I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band. Before Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast. but could call in and say, hey Jonas,

and then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy, not quite.

Unhumor me with Robert Smigel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes.

Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and friends on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas. And I'm CJ Toledano, and our podcast Point Game is about defining the odds. Like LeBron heading into the playoffs without Luca and Austin Reed.

And finding ways to win no matter what. He's the smartest player to ever play the game. His IQ is at a level that we've never seen before. And he knows without Luca and Austin Reeves, I got to manipulate the game. We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs. I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup,

he has to really guard guys like Nas Reid. He has to guard Julius Randall. And then he has to give us everything he gives us on the night-to-night basis on offense. And when IT's friends stop by like Quentin Richardson, we dive into some playoff history too. Steve Nash will get that thing. That man, hell get the flying.

He running up the court, licking his fingers why he got the ball. Like, after you go through a training camp with that, Isaiah, you figure it out real quick. Oh, yeah. Get your ass up and down the court, and you're going to get the ball. So listen to Point Game on the IHeart Radio app,

Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Will Ferrell's Big Money Players and IHeart Podcast presents soccer moms. So I'm Leanne. Yeah. This is my best friend, Janet. Hey. And we have been joined at the hips since high school.

Absolutely. Now a redacted amount of years later, we're still joined at the hip. Just a little bit bigger hips, wider. This is a podcast. We're recording it as we tailgate our youth soccer games in the back of my Honda Odyssey. With all the snacks and drinks. Sidebar. Why did you get hard seltzer instead of beer?

Oh, they had a bogo. Well, then you got it. Do you want a white collar or something here? Just hit it. Oh, what are y'all doing? Microphones? Are you making a rap album? Oh, I would.

Come on. Could you believe? I would buy it. Cuts through the defense like a hot knife through sponge cake. That sounds delicious. Oh, you're lucky I'm not a drug addict. You're lucky I'm not an alcoholic. You're lucky I'm not a killer.

I love this team and I'm really trying to be a figure in their lives that they can rely on. Oh. Listen to soccer moms on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A couple of Monday night football games tonight. Like Jemak, I think the Jets, the Dolphins, over is the play. And actually, I'll take a favorite, Denver. At home, offense is sputtered. I think Sean Payton will get it right.

Why don't we make it interesting since you're going to be out here soon? What do we make it interesting? You want a little wager? On what? I don't know. Let's go Jets. You love Mike McDaniel and Tua. I'll take Jets.

I don't love you. Mike McDaniel and Tua or the GM. Or the owner or the stadium. I like going to Fort Lauderdale in Miami. I don't like the football team. It was just funny yesterday. The baseball playoffs, regular season's over. Steve Cohen's on the Mets forever.

They've missed the playoffs three times and got bounced in the wild card round. They literally were the only team in baseball that did not have a ninth inning come from behind the wind. With all that money, all that money. Steve Balmer with the Clippers. All that money, playoff disappointment. Everybody fears money.

The both New York teams stink in the NFL, although Giants feel pretty good today. Everybody worries about money, and here you got, you start looking around sports right now. Milwaukee's the best team in baseball. They swept the Dodgers earlier this year. Best team in baseball, great bullpen, good starting staff, hit. I'm just telling you, it's watching that game last night.

Everybody's freaking out in Green Bay, and I'm like, these games now, where the kids are, kickoff comes out to, all you need is a 15-yard completion and a penalty, and you're in field goal range. I mean, Matt Heselbeck talked about that earlier. You get into field goal range now so fast in the NFL. That's why I think betting the NFL is harder than it's ever been. My last year and a half, never been harder.

There's so many backdoor covers. I've had three games this year I thought I had wrapped up. I thought I had the Raiders wrapped up yesterday, and then all of a sudden, you know, that's why I think you're also getting a higher percentage of quarterbacks that can play because they come in with so many snaps on a high school and college and personal coaching. And then the NFL also, the kickoffs, now you get better field position with a kickoff. So between the elevated quarterback play, because of, you know, a million reasons, because of there's more great offensive coaches than we've ever had. That's why you're seeing guys like Sam Darnold and Baker

Mayfield getting second and third chances. And flue. and because of, you know, I mean, the rules are all geared toward the offense is that you get these crazy games. And, I mean, Micah Parsons, what's the impact? I said before, in the NFL, there's three things you have to have to be great. Great coach, great quarterback, and somebody to protect his backside. What about receivers? What about them? How Justin Jefferson do yesterday.

If you don't have the quarterback and he didn't have protection, star receivers don't matter. Jamar Chase did not make the playoffs last year. And also, the bottom line is that's why I defended the Cowboys getting a couple of number ones. Cowboys have four number ones in the next two years. That gives them massive flexibility in the draft, massive flexibility with the cap because they're not paying Micah. Cowboys are going to be fine. I like Micah. I thought he was a good fit.

but I mean you start looking around and you got to have a coach you got to have a quarterback and you got to have somebody to protect the quarterback. Outside of that you don't have to have anything. There's so many different ways to win.

Green Bay wins and they're young. Seattle wins and they're young. Kansas City wins and they can't run the football. Philadelphia is reliant on the run game. Can't throw it consistently. There's a million. I still think I watched yesterday.

I mean, Daniel Jones, He looks like he can play. Daniel Jones, Sam Darnal and Baker-Mayfield would not have happened 15 years ago. There weren't that many good offensive coaches, and the league wasn't as quarterback-friendly, and the kickoffs didn't come out to the place they come out to now. And now because the kickers can kick easily from 55 to 58 yards, the whole offense has changed. I mean, I'm sitting there watching, you know, Green Bay last night, and I'm watching some of these late games, and I'm like, you know, even in college,

I'm watching Illinois has got a great kicker. I'm watching Illinois this weekend, and I'm like, all they have to do is get to the 40-yard line. They'll be fine. I mean, the Raiders, it got blocked, but the Raiders kicker's been a pro-bowler. All they got to get to is a 40-yard line. It used to be like 32-yard line was pushing it. You know, then, oh, it was a 49-yard kick. You wanted to get to, like, the 28-yard line.

And, you know, that felt like a mid-40-yard kick. That's okay. Now it's like 58, 57. to me, and I'm like, it depends on the kicker, but I feel pretty comfortable. It used to be outside of about 43 yards. You're like, oh, no, I don't know if I feel good about this. So, and the big game of the weekend beyond last night was Kansas City dominating Lamar. Matt Hasselbeck came on earlier.

It does feel like the Chiefs are in Lamar Jackson. Spags is in Lamar Jackson's head. I think there are some defensive coordinator. that they don't fear certain great players. Lamar Jackson is no doubt a great player. But for whatever reason, Steve Spagnolo and the Chiefs, I don't think they fear him like the rest of the league does. The Chiefs, they feel like they've got a system

and a game plan that works with the Ravens. And it's tough when it's such a rivalry game. And I wonder, I guess I would wonder, if Lamar feels like he's got to put the team on his back when he goes up against Patrick Mahomes. That's what I would wonder. Yeah, and maybe it's that. I do think Lamar is a unique player.

I don't think there's any answer ever for Mahomes if he has protection. I don't think there's an answer ever for Josh Allen. I do think there are answers for Matt Stafford, put pressure on him. I do think there are answers for Lamar Jackson. Not many, and they're not sustainable, usually over three and a half hours. But there are answers for most quarterbacks, just not Mahomes and Josh Allen. Pretty much ever, if they have reasonable help. Lamar Jackson's status for Sunday against Houston reportedly in question may not play.

See you tomorrow. Hey guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas.

We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We get to ask other people to do podcasts. We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions. Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it. but, you know, tired and sick, tired and sick. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts,

or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL, late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel

help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and Friends on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Joey Dardano.

And on my new podcast, Hope From a Hypocrite, I'll be changing lives, helping people in need with thoughtful solutions. Sike, I'm a comedian. I'm not qualified to give good advice. Join me and my comedian friends as we riff rant and recommend some of the most legally dubious advice

known to me. This is Help from a Hypocrite, the worst advice from the dumbest people you know. Listen to Help from a Hypocrite Wednesdays on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas. And I'm C.J. Toledano. It's our favorite time of the year on our podcast point game, the playoffs. We're digging into the biggest surprises of the season.

And I'm looking back on some of my greatest playoff moments. If we didn't talk ever again, I was fine. You just understood. That's how personal it got. Wow. Then after that game seven, Mark keep coming to, he's like, you know, I love you, dog. You know, it's all love. This was just playoffs.

This was just basketball. So listen to Point Game on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an IHeart podcast. Guaranteed human.