The Herd with Colin Cowherd - THE HERD - Hour 3 - Super Bowl Champion Julian Edelman stops by The Herd

Episode Date: November 4, 2025

3-time Super Bowl Champion Julian Edelman joins the show to react to all the NFL trade deadline chaos and explain why the Kansas City Chiefs will bounce back after their loss to the Buffalo BillsSee o...mnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed Human. Hey guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas.
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Starting point is 00:01:36 What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas. And I'm C.J. Toledano. It's our favorite time of the year on our podcast point game, the playoffs. We're digging into the biggest surprises of the season. And I'm looking back on some of my greatest playoff moments. If we didn't talk ever again, I was funny. You just understood. That's how personal it got.
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Starting point is 00:02:33 Listen to Crimless on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Thanks for listening to The Heard podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio in noon to 3 Eastern, 9 a.m. to noon Pacific. Find your local station for the herd at Fox SportsRadio.com or stream us live every day on the IHeart Radio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. to Fox Sports Radio. If you're a cowboy fan, everybody banged on the cowboys for the Micah Parsons trade. And that was the one thing I defended it.
Starting point is 00:03:14 It gave them flexibility. Just think about this this morning. After the trade, they just did. The Cowboys, in return for Micah Parsons, got an additional first-round pick next year. Still have two first-round picks. Kenny Clark and now Quinn and Williams. that's six Pro Bowls and less than you're paying for Micah Parsons. I said the Micah Parsons deal do not buy into its devastating.
Starting point is 00:03:41 It gives the Cowboys flexibility. So Green Bay got Micah. Dallas got an additional first round pick for this year. So they'll have two firsts and they don't need a quarterback. That is huge leverage. They have Quinn Williams, the best Rush Interior defender in the league. Kenny Clark, another great guy against the run, and they're paying less than they were for Micah. And if you ask general managers in the NFL, if you had a choice between a dominant interior guy or an edge rusher, you'd take the dominant interior guy.
Starting point is 00:04:17 So now the Cowboys have two of them, Quinn and Williams and Kenny Clark, because the interior defensive line position is a rare body type. When you can get a guy that's six, one and a half, 3.30 and has good feet, guys. doesn't make a lot of those. There's a lot of good edge rushers. There's not many Chris Jones and Aaron Donald's and Reggie White on the planet ever. With that, Julian Edelman, Sunday's on Fox, NFL kickoff.
Starting point is 00:04:42 All right, trade deadline's interesting. So, and let's revisit this. So a team like the Colts gets Sauce Gardner. Sauce got a little Jalen Ramsey, can be a little moody, things
Starting point is 00:04:57 goes south, he goes south, But in the next six weeks, next five weeks they face Drake London, Nico Collins. You know, they're facing all these number one ride receivers. How do you think Soss Gardner, hopefully solving a Colts weakness, what does that do to the chemistry in the room in Indy? I think the corner positions, the one position you can bring in and just say, hey, you're going to guard this guy. And I think it's going to benefit them.
Starting point is 00:05:26 Sauce coming from the environment, he was in in New York. probably very unmotivated. Yeah, he's rich, he's got money. But it's tough to lose weekend and week out year after year. And that's what he's experienced his whole career. And we've seen flashes of really good corner. Now you put him on a team that's buying for, you know, pretty much a number one seed, a playoff spot.
Starting point is 00:05:50 I bet you his attitude changes completely. It reminds me when we brought in Akib to lead from Tampa Bay, I think it was in 2011 or 12. Yeah. And instantly made an impact on our team. And if he didn't get hurt in 13, I think the year that we brought him in, we probably would have beat the Broncos in that AFC championship. Like that's how big of the impact he had on our team.
Starting point is 00:06:15 And I think corners, you know, a really good corner. All you got to say is, hey, buddy, cover three or it's cover one, you cover him. And I think he's going to have a great impact on that team. Yeah. The Cowboys, when they made the Micah move, my take was always Jerry's a dealmaker, and he's been trapped for two years. He has no flexibility. Quinn and Williams, Kenny Clark, and they still have two number ones. That feels like, I mean, it's, you know this, Jules, to get two elite interior defensive linemen. Huge. That's, I mean, that we wouldn't have been the New England Patriots if it wasn't for Seymour or Will Fork.
Starting point is 00:06:55 That's right. And there's a bunch of other guys branch and there's a bunch of guys. But the interior part, if you got a guy that can take away two gaps, that's tough on the run game. And once you start to make a team one dimensional and they can't run the football, then you can dial up better coverage for your secondary and you can get more creative. So I think, you know, Jerry Jones, he's been in this league for a long time. and he's put out a competitive product pretty much, you know, as long as I've been around, yeah, they haven't won a Super Bowl, but like you said, he's got a lot of flexibility now.
Starting point is 00:07:33 They got some first rounders. Quinn and Williams is going to be in that same category as Soss Gardner, where he's probably going to up his game now that he's a cowboy and he's got a quarterback like Dak and he's got an offense that can score, like their play is going to raise. So I think that's a win-win for them. So Sam Darnold and the Seahawks gave up a couple of midpicks for Rashid Shaheed, meaning they can move J.S.N. At Ohio State, he mostly played slot because they had good sideline receivers.
Starting point is 00:08:06 So now they can move J.S.N mostly to the slot. I mean, the kid's unbelievable. So your takeaway, how long does it take for a Darnold and Rashid to, like, connect? He is an over the top threat. Sideline guy, no doubt about it. When you got a guy that can stretch the field, the happiest guy in that locker room has got to be J.S.N. I mean, anytime you got another,
Starting point is 00:08:34 because all the coverage right now is going to JSN. Right. You know, and once you have a guy that can blow the top off, it's going to take one big throw from Sam Darnold to Rashid over the top. And then all of a sudden that intermediate. immediate past game with a bunch of their tight ends that they have and Smith and Jigba is going to eat all day. I mean, that's the number one thing you want.
Starting point is 00:08:57 And now that you have Smith and Jigba, you could put him everywhere. So you could have a guy like, he's kind of like the Rishin Rice piece over at the chiefs. And then you got Xavier Worthy who's stretching everything. And that's going to be Rashid Shaheed. So as a guy that ate a lot in the slot, anytime you had a guy now outside that had speed. Once you got one pass on the defense, it changes how defenses play you completely. Yeah. You know, people are banging on the Colts for giving up two first round picks, one next year, one after. It should be noted that 30% of first round picks bust. I mean,
Starting point is 00:09:39 it's hard to get guys right in this league. And even if you do get them right, they very rarely hit early. Generally, it takes a defensive lineman or a left tackle. It takes. It takes a some a year in this league. The Colts going for it, though, is telling me Daniel Jones is our guy. Now, that's much easier for me to embrace in Seattle with Darnold. Darnold right now, analytically, the metric says the best quarterback in the league. Darnold looks like a number one. The Colts are telling you with this move, we don't need a quarterback. We think Daniel is it. Watching the Colts, do you buy that? I do buy that right now. I mean, The Colts for the last few years have been a quarterback way.
Starting point is 00:10:24 Joe Flacco had them pretty competitive a couple of years back, and then they bring in Jacoby Percet. And, you know, Daniel Jones had that little stint over in Minnesota, got to learn and see how this West Coast operation goes. And then Shane Steichen has that kind of same system, and that confidence is showing on the screen each week with Daniel Jones. And I remember going and seeing him in New York. work and it was just a walk through type practice.
Starting point is 00:10:55 And you watch Daniel Jones. First off, he's a big guy. Yes. And you watch him throw the ball. And the ball comes off his hand and it's sexy. He looks like a quarterback. And it just, you know, and it never just, it never worked out for him for whatever reason. I mean, the pieces around him.
Starting point is 00:11:11 And so once you see him in your system doing well like Shane Stuyken is doing, you have, I mean, that's going to be your guy. And he's got some experience. and he's still a young guy. And so I think the soft trade tells you that they're all in for this year. And rightfully so, they're playing really good football. And the AFCs kind of all over the place right now. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:37 So Bill's Chiefs have played 10 times. They've split it at five. I looked at that loss by Kansas City. And my take was they trailed by a touchdown and had the ball late. And they got worked. They got worked in the red zone. They got work time of possession. They got,
Starting point is 00:11:53 Mahomes got hit 15 times. Did you ever have a rival that beat you in the regular season, but in a weird way, you came out of the game flying home thinking, listen, they exhausted. They threw everything they had at us, were the better team. Probably one of those Denver or Baltimore teams may have beat us,
Starting point is 00:12:17 and we always saw them a lot in the playoffs. And what this game shows me, you know, in week nine or week eight is that the Kansas City, or the Buffalo bills are just further ahead than the Kansas City Chiefs right now. Because when they play next, if they play next, they're going to be completely different teams because of the season, because of, you know, a couple of players stepping up and create a name from themselves in these next three, four weeks, injuries.
Starting point is 00:12:46 So I just take from this game, look, Buffalo, last time playing the Chiefs in old. Orchard, you know, on a two-game skid. They needed this win. They're not afraid of playing Kansas City. And they just were on their game and they rushed the ball very well with Cooks. And you look at the Chiefs, they couldn't get anything going on the offensive side of ball. And Patrick Mahomes had his worst game of the year. So this is going to happen. But by no means do I think that this affects the Chiefs the next time they play because they'll be a completely different team when they play.
Starting point is 00:13:20 Games with Names is his podcast. It's exceptionally. He's on Fox NFL kickoff. It's Julian Edelman on a trade deadline Tuesday. Great stuff, Jules, appreciate it. No problem. Good to see you. Get better.
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Starting point is 00:14:28 Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band. Before Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember.
Starting point is 00:14:50 remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys.
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Starting point is 00:19:12 I think the Jags beat the Raiders. It gets a little tight. C.J. Stroud's going to play. I think Chris Ballard wants to win the division. Now, I would rather go a first, a third, you know, and then Mitchell. There is a sense on the internet. The Colts gave up way too much. I think Dallas did well.
Starting point is 00:19:34 J-MAC with the news. No, no, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. All right, let's do a little more trade deadline. So, obviously, the moves that are coming here, fast and furious. sauce Gardner shipped, obviously, to the Colts. Quinn and Williams traded to the Cowboys.
Starting point is 00:19:53 Some more details on that Quinn and Williams pick, according to Adam Schaefter and Ian Rappaport, so that 2027 first that the Jets get, it'll be the higher of either Dallas's or Green Base pick. One of those team flops, Jordan Love goes down, whatever. It's a really, really high pick in 27. Colin, one thing we haven't talked about with the Jets, they had a chance on Sam Darnold. It did not work out. He also flamed out in other teams.
Starting point is 00:20:19 They had a shot with Zach Wilson, didn't work out. He ain't an NFL quarterback. They now have five first-round picks over the next two years. But you know this and I know this. If your coach stinks, it doesn't matter. Yes, but they have bites at the apple.
Starting point is 00:20:32 That's what matters to me. They have five chances. The GM, I think, has done really well today. I know people are like, hey, Geryl Wilson, who's he got? Breeze Hall. How sad are these guys? No, what they're going to do,
Starting point is 00:20:43 the Jets are going to rebuild the defense on the cheap. They're going to get a quarterback and rebuild the defense with all these first and second round picks. That's what they do. And then they're going to go buy offense because they're not paying the quarterback. Well, they have their tackles in place. No, no, no. But they'll go go by a better tight end.
Starting point is 00:20:59 They'll go by. Taylor's good? I would go get a Pro Bowl. I would go get a Pro Bowl center like the Bears did. Drew Dalman. Go get, you got Mendoza or Dante Moore. Get a Pro Bowl center. Look at the first thing Ben Johnson.
Starting point is 00:21:13 did. What did he do? Guard, center guard, acquisition, cleaned up the interior O line. Sean Payton, first thing he did in Denver, cleaned up the O line. Jim Harbaugh, first thing he did, drafted Joe Alt. All the smart coaches in this league, get the quarterback and then protect him. Forget about all this stuff. And so the Jets, get Mendoza, get a center, and then just draft, keep your defense in the NFL. Nimble, cheap. and fast. So their center last year was Tipman. He had to move to guard because AVT went down again.
Starting point is 00:21:48 Yeah. I'm just, you guys, get your shots in at the Jets now. Go ahead. Take all the joke, make all the jokes you want. I'm just telling you, the tackles are in place. They got a top five running back, a top five receiver. They just need the quarterback, and they now have a lot of bites at the apple to make it happen. It's a great day to be a Jets fan.
Starting point is 00:22:05 All right, let's move to the other team in New York, Colin. The New York Giants. Brian Dable has kind of been on the hot seat, but maybe Jackson Dart could say. save him? I don't know. According to one NFL reporter, they're claiming New York is thinking about a reunion
Starting point is 00:22:21 of Lane Kiffin and Jackson Dart in New York. Obviously, Lane Kiffin has flopped out of the NFL, but he's rebounded. That's what the Jets should do? I think Daybo's fine. First of all, why is Lane Kiffin leaving? He's the king in Ole Miss.
Starting point is 00:22:37 Gets whatever he wants, does whatever he want, players, money, private jets, everything. You're going to go and feel You go with the Giants? It's the NFL. There's 32 NFL jobs. There's an argument. And that ain't a good one, though.
Starting point is 00:22:49 You want the good one. Jim Harville went to the Chargers. I go to the Giants and I get Abdul Carter. I get those edge rushers. I have my left tackle. I got neighbors, Scataboo, Jackson, Dart. I take that job in a second over an SEC job. In one second, I would take a Giants job.
Starting point is 00:23:05 The problem is in college football, the money is getting so big for these coaches? I don't have any portal in the NFL. What if you like the portal like Layman? Kiffin. You could get awesome players. You like dealing with an athletic director and the NCAA. I think Lane Kiffin's more powerful than the athletic. I'm telling you right now, the New York Giants, you go into next year. Neighbors, Scataboo, Jackson Dart, Andrew Thomas, and Rush Ends.
Starting point is 00:23:29 It smells like five wins to me. Okay. You get the Eagles to deal with. Jaden Daniels will be back. Dallas is loading up. That Giants job. By the way, bears, this is one of the two bets I have so far this week. I like the Bears.
Starting point is 00:23:42 You see three and a half on the screen against a John. New York can't stop the run. Back end of their defense is hurt. You're Swift playing? I don't know if it matters. I like Monongody or however you say his last name. Kyle, Kyle something. He's on my fantasy team.
Starting point is 00:23:55 How can he be on your fantasy team and you can't pronounce his name? I'm in first place. I'm sorry. I don't care about last thing. All right. Finally, NBA story, Colin, this is spicy here. This John Morant situation. We haven't really talked about it.
Starting point is 00:24:07 But the young man's kind of sort of imploding right now. obviously he was suspended after the Lakers game for some comments he made about the coaching staff and being unhappy. So they suspend him. So they bring him back last night. He was putrid shooting the ball at 18 points, but it doesn't matter. He was shooting tour dates out there. Listen to what happened afterward, Colin. It gets even worse.
Starting point is 00:24:30 What were you in the country staff able to talk about what happened Friday and move on? Y'all ask that question of them, huh? What about for you? Y'all ask their question, so y'all know the answer to that. Do you feel like everything's been resolved? Yeah. They told you that, right? Well, yeah, but we didn't hear from you.
Starting point is 00:24:50 Obviously, they can't go and tell y'all something, I'd say. Listen, another domestic basketball player that isn't mature enough to embrace the chance at stardom. That's what it is. Zion, John Morant, that's on him. The gun charges hit it. These international guys come over, and they're 24. going on 40. They're grown-ups. They're mature. They care about basketball and their teammates and
Starting point is 00:25:15 their culture. Jah Morant's issues are Jah Morant. For the record, I said it when he came in. Small, skinny guys that can't shoot, these point guards that can't shoot that everybody falls in love with Derek Rose, John Wall, they're tremendously fun to watch. They don't win titles. If you can't, the only skinny, spindly small guys that work, Steve Nash and Steph Curry, they can shoot threes. So they don't have to go into the redwoods and get banged up and knocked out. John Morant can't shoot. His shooting's gotten, got, is become, is regressed? 15% on the years.
Starting point is 00:25:53 No, no, no, it's gotten worse the last three years. So the people falling in love, Derek Rose, LeBron shut him down. LeBron's a Ford. He's like, yeah, I'll guard him. Take the bigger, stronger athletes. Do not buy into spindly guards that can't shoot. They'll get hurt. This is a big man's game.
Starting point is 00:26:12 NBA guys are, you know, there are so many 240-pound dudes in that league. You can't be a buck 80 dripping wet. So it's interesting you say all that stuff. I'm looking, obviously Kyler Murray has not had this many off-field issues, but he had the whole playbook thing, didn't want to work. Yeah, but his wasn't criminal. Yes, correct. He did not have the criminal stuff.
Starting point is 00:26:31 But there is some petulence and some answers, we've heard from Kyla Murray. John Moran's is really ugly. I don't know if Kyler Marie has a market, and I'll be honest, I don't know what teams take it on John Morant. I got Miami Heat fans. Oh, we'll take him in the South Beach.
Starting point is 00:26:45 Heat culture, all this. I just don't know. His shooting was bad when he came into the league. It's gotten worse. I mean, last time I watched John Morant, I mean, he, I think it's five straight years. It's regressed. He can't shoot.
Starting point is 00:27:01 And again, people fall in love with these small You know, the guards I like play defense. Dee Wade played defense. You know, and not all of them do. Nash and Curry aren't great defenders. But it's the kid in San Antonio from Yukon, Stefan Castle, that dude dees you up. That guy, I will take.
Starting point is 00:27:21 I'll build my franchise around him and Wembe. But these skinny guys who shoot don't really want to defend. They're not culture guys. I mean, the NBA's had a bad month. Just the Hawks executive just got in trouble for swindling. The league, you got Terry Porter and Chauncey Billups. It's very much a me league, and the NFL's a wee league. Terry Rozier. The NFL's a wee league. The NBA is a me league. And all of a sudden we have another player pouting. I don't want to hear it. I mean,
Starting point is 00:27:52 the Dodgers, they're unity. They're all superstars. Great unity. NBA guy. I don't get my way. I'm out. He's complaining about the rotation patterns. They got a new coach. It's ugly. By the way, Zion, oh, oh, whoa. Don't tell me they traded Breeshole. The Jets are asking for a third round pick for running back Breeshall. No, we're not doing that. I wouldn't give up a third round pick for Bresol. Oh, stop it.
Starting point is 00:28:16 No way. In a heartbeat. No way. It's running back. He's winning somebody a Super Bowl right now. He's that good. It's a running league. We talked about this yesterday.
Starting point is 00:28:25 Hey, by the way, Cheats for shopping. Pacheco out, they can't run the football. Did you see the Bills? I saw a video on it. The Bills played six defensive backs for like, 90% of the game because they don't respect the run game of the Chiefs. If I'm Brett Vej, I go get him. I'll give you a fourth.
Starting point is 00:28:41 Hell no. Get out of town. Enjoy the wild card loss, Brett. I'm not sure if you guys can beat Ole Miss this weekend. Who? The Jets. They're playing the Browns. By the way, the Jets were favored by two and a half.
Starting point is 00:28:53 They're now underdogs. They're now underdogs. And Dylan Gabriel. Nothing like trading away all your good players. Take a loss. Get that number one pick. Mendoza. That's my guy.
Starting point is 00:29:03 J-Mac with the news Well, that's the news And thanks for stopping by The Herd Lye News Sure the Jeff's locker room is joyful and optimistic today It's the Herd Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd
Starting point is 00:29:15 Weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific Hey, it's us to Jonas Brothers And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news? Huge news. We created our own podcast called
Starting point is 00:29:25 Hey Jonas, we invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wild. range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name
Starting point is 00:29:39 Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers.
Starting point is 00:29:53 This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast where people could call in and say hey Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
Starting point is 00:30:15 Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smigel and Friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeterside. help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes.
Starting point is 00:30:39 Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and Friends on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas. And I'm C.J. Toledano, and our podcast Point Game is about defining the odds. Like LeBron heading into the playoffs without Luca and Austin Reed. And finding ways to win no matter what.
Starting point is 00:31:00 He's the smartest player to ever play the game. His IQ is at a level that we've never seen before. And he knows without Luca and Austin Reeves, I got to manipulate the game. We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs. I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup, he has to really guard guys like Nas Reid.
Starting point is 00:31:21 He has to guard Julius Randall. And then he has to give us everything he gives us on the night-to-night basis on offense. And when IT's friends stop by, like Quentin Richardson, we dive into some playoff history too. Steve Nash would get that thing. That man, hell get the flying. He run up the court, licking his fingers why he got the ball.
Starting point is 00:31:38 Like, after you go through a training camp with that, Isaiah, you figure it out real quick. Get your ass up and down the court, and you're going to get the ball. So listen to Point Game on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Keith Giamanka seemed like a mild-mannered suburban dad. But secretly, he became someone else, a master. of disguise who went on a crime spree. At the time, did it seem like a crazy idea? It seemed very crazy.
Starting point is 00:32:09 But I felt so desperate that I felt it was the quickest, easiest way out. Did you allow yourself to think about how it could go wrong on what that might look like? No. I didn't want to manifest that. I was trying to manifest success. Every family has its secrets. But what happens when you discover that your dad has been living a double life? That is not the look of an innocent man.
Starting point is 00:32:38 This is going to change my life and my family dynamic forever because everything that had existed prior in my reality is now untrue. Listen to Deep Cover the Family Man on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The story I've told myself about love or relationships can then shape my behavior, and that can lead me to sabotage the possibility of connection. This Mental Health Awareness Month, tune into the podcast deeply well with Debbie Brown and explore the journey of healing, self-discovery, and returning to yourself. We explore higher consciousness, emotional well-being, and the practices that help you find clarity, peace, and self-mashy. in a world that can feel overwhelming.
Starting point is 00:33:33 The world is becoming lonelier. We're not becoming more social and connected. We're becoming more individualized, but we actually meet people in connection. If you've been searching for a soft place to land while doing the work to become whole, this podcast is for you to hear more. Listen to deeply well with Debbie Brown from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Start your Saturday strong with the unstoppable second-ranked Hoosiers.
Starting point is 00:34:05 All eyes are on Fernando Mendoza as he leads Indiana and continues his Heisman campaign against Penn State. It all starts with Big Noon kickoff at 10 a.m. Eastern. Then it's Indiana Penn State. Big noon Saturday only on Fox. Okay, so the Jets traded Sauce Gardner for the Colts for two first rounders and a player. it's interesting. Two years ago, J. Mack and I, listen closely,
Starting point is 00:34:34 were discussing. J. Mack was theorizing on trading Sauce Gardner as a Jets fan. This is what I said. Watch. But if you can all of a sudden get a one and a four,
Starting point is 00:34:49 a one and a five for sauce gardener, I don't know. Five. A one or four bag and groceries tomorrow. That's nothing. We stop. I need two, ones and a player for
Starting point is 00:34:59 Sauce Gardner. Interesting. That's exactly what happened today. Nostra Colin. Anywho. Yeah. Two years ago. Breeze Hall, Germain Johnson.
Starting point is 00:35:14 They have offers for both. Oh. So right now, the discount store known as the New York Jets has traded Sauce Gardner, Quinn and Williams. they have Zach, a writer for the athletic, who covers the Jets. Germain Johnson, who's been meh, is on the market.
Starting point is 00:35:35 Johnson was hurt all year. And then Brees Hall. I think my take is the chiefs are looking at Brees Hall. Yeah, and the 49ers want Johnson. Robert Sala knows him from his time. Jets are not trading Will McDonald, the young kid out of Iowa State. Johnson's good player, man. He was a top, I think, top 25 pick.
Starting point is 00:35:52 Florida State end. Yeah, he could. I just don't want to give up Reese Hall, Collins. They're going to have a rookie quarterback. No, I agree. Are you watching Cam Ward right now struggle? No. Watch. What the Jets are doing is I'll give them credit for this.
Starting point is 00:36:04 They're moving off defensive players. You want your defense to be cheap. So you're going to have to pay, you're paying Quinn and Williams. You're paying Sauce Gardner. You're going to have to pay Germain. Johnson. They're getting those guys out. That's what you should do.
Starting point is 00:36:17 Don't pay your defensive guys. I've talked to a half a dozen NFL GMs. Pay one great defensive linemen. A Max Cross. a Chris Jones. Go pay one. Jared verse, the Rams are already getting ready in two years to pay Jared verse through a Brinks truck. They get it.
Starting point is 00:36:36 Quinn and Williams is a hard guy to move off of. It is. But I think what they're saying is, let's go draft Mendoza or Dante Moore. We'll buy an offense of veterans around them that are proven that can support him and will just draft defense. And I think that's the right play. I don't like their current coach. but what the Jets are doing and the Cowboys today.
Starting point is 00:36:58 So the Cowboys, everybody's banging on the Cowboys that Mikea trade. The Dowell's Cowboys still have two number ones next year, and they don't need a quarterback, and now they have Quinn Williams and Kenny Clark, and that's less than the Packers are paying Micah. Yeah, but they gave Bland $92 million. He's getting cooked on national TV. I know, but I think he's a good player.
Starting point is 00:37:21 Oh, please. Trayvon Diggs can't even stay on the field. So, like, I get it. You want to load up. Jerry Jones has no idea what he's doing. None. Colin, moving off Micah to bring in two defensive tackles, we've got to stop the run. Every GMI talk to says there are certain body types, 6, 7, 313 left tackle.
Starting point is 00:37:41 There's like one great one a year, maybe two. The Planet delivers. There's an old general manager for the New York Giants named George Young, and he had a planet theory. The Planet gives you certain body types infrequently. left tackles, the top 25 ever, like 23 or first rounders. You can get receivers anywhere. You can get edge rushers anywhere, tight ends anywhere. Even quarterbacks, the best ever, Brady's a six-rounder.
Starting point is 00:38:06 Hard to find undrafted seventh-round left tackles who dominate the league. So I think the Jets and the Cowboys, what they did, I'm going to defend, I think there's an argument the Colts gave up too much. It should have been a, by the way, I said two years ago I thought Sauce Gardner was worth two ones and a player. I did. He has regressed. But I think a lot of that is he was great with Robert Sala
Starting point is 00:38:31 and he'll be great with the Colts coordinate. We know coaching matters beyond head coach. We know the role great coordinators playing this league. Part of the reason I said a one and a four for sauce was that was before they paid him because you would have to pay him, you're not giving up two ones. Now he's got his deal
Starting point is 00:38:47 and you give up the ones. I think the Jets stole majorly from the Colts come. Guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast. Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions. Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it. But, you know, tired and sick.
Starting point is 00:39:15 Tired and sick. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes.
Starting point is 00:39:45 Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and Friends on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Podcasts. Will Ferrell's Big Money Players and IHart Podcasts presents Soccer Moms. So I'm Leanne. This is my best friend, Janet. Hey. And we have been joined at the hips since high school. Absolutely. A redacted amount of years later, we're still joined at the hip. Just a little bit bigger hips. This is a podcast. We're recording it as we tailgate our youth soccer games in the back of my Honda Odyssey. With all the snacks and drinks. Why did you get hard seltzer instead of beer?
Starting point is 00:40:19 Oh, they hit a bogo. Well, then you got it. Listen to soccer moms on the Iheart Radio app. Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas. And I'm CJ Toledano. It's our favorite time of the year on our podcast, Point Game, the playoffs. We're digging into the biggest surprises of the season. And I'm looking back on some of my greatest playoff moments. If we didn't talk ever again, I was part of it.
Starting point is 00:40:40 You just understood. That's how personal it got. Wow. Then after that game 7, Marquis keep coming to you. He's like, you know I love you, dog. You know, it's all love. This was just playoffs. This was just basketball.
Starting point is 00:40:51 So listen to Point Game on the I Heart Radio, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. This week on Crimless, Rory and I welcome a very special guest. When I did podcasts, I wear my sleep masks. I like where this is going. So if you guys will indulge me. That's right, the incredibly talented and hilarious Will Ferrell on an episode dedicated to crimes committed by people named Will Ferrell. You're good for 300 crimes?
Starting point is 00:41:18 Yeah. We've got two. I'm ready to go right up to present. Listen to Crimless on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. This is an IHeart podcast. Guaranteed human.

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