The Herd with Colin Cowherd - THE HERD - Hour 3 - Super Bowl Champion Mark Schlereth stops by The Herd

Episode Date: October 29, 2025

Mark Schlereth stops by The Herd to talk to Colin about Sean Payton's coaching style, Drake Maye so far this season, the Chiefs being able to still play at a high level, and moreSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Show him what you spent three hours on today. Law and order. mowing unit. One of my listeners of my YouTube on my YouTube show, The Stick of Truth podcast on YouTube sent me this, is it, could you please wear this the next time you do a podcast? So I wore it today. It'll be out this afternoon. And I tell you what, I'm loving this shirt. This is awesome. And it is so much me because I'm out there. On Monday, I was out in my yard for three and a half hours, working in the yard, mowing, getting the leaves up. Tremendous, just tremendous work.

Yeah. I spent about an hour a week with a therapist. you get it for free on your lawn. I mean, that's the difference. Exactly. You're the smart one. All right, of all the things Sean Payton has done, I mean, he inherited a team that had Russell Wilson, gave up draft capital.

They are really good. What's the one thing? Because you cover them weekly. You see them. You talk about him. What is the one secret sauce to what he's done? Well, he holds guys accountable. First and foremost, Colin, the salary cap of the NFL is fungible.

It is the biggest joke to me when we say, oh, we can't let go with this guy or oh, we're going to be in salary cap purgatory. What are we going to do? Russell Wilson, we're never going to be able to rebuild. You can manipulate that money any way you want to manipulate that money. If you want to get rid of a guy,

you can get rid of him. If you want to pay a guy, you can pay a guy. So that whole salary cap thing is garbage. Then I think from Sean's standpoint, man, he's a great coach. He motivates his players. And he's one of those guys. that has the two types of fear that I always talk about. Biblically, fear refers to kind of awesome

reverence and respect. He's got the respect and the reverence of his players, but also fear. Like, I'll cut your ass in a heartbeat if you don't do what I ask you to do. And over the last couple of weeks, they were abysmal on the edge, bubble screens, wide receivers not blocking. And I guarantee you they had a little come to Jesus meeting inside the walls of the Denver Broncos said if you're not going to do this, if you're not going to execute, if you receivers aren't going to block, then you're not going to get to play. And last week was evidence of that because last week they started Pat Bryant, a rookie wide receiver and said you're going to be the point of attack on our pitch and pull game. We're going to be the point of attack out there,

blocking people on bubble screens. And he absolutely dispensed justice out there as a receiver blocking. You know what they did later? Rewarded him with a touchdown over the top. deep ball over the top. So that's exactly the kind of coach that he is. I'm going to hold you accountable. And if you don't want to do it, be my guess. Don't do it. But you're not going to play for me.

And I love that aspect of Sean Payton. You called Browns at the Patriots. You saw Drake May. He's got to learn out a slide. What, you mean, you obviously played with Elway. What, I mean, I think Drake May is going to be a star if not already. What do you see as somebody that played in the NFL forever, three, three rings, two Pro Bowls.

What do you see that you go wow? What's his wow trait? I think one, Colin, is his ability to throw a deep ball to get that deep ball to turn over and be deadly accurate on that from all kinds of different platforms. The guy has just been amazing.

And there's so much room for growth. Sitting down, talking with Josh McDaniels, their offensive coordinator, he's like, listen, man, at this particular point in time, he's so good on the front side, of saying, hey man, one to two, if it's not open, he'll take off. And he goes, he'll get to three and four occasionally.

But right now it's like, one, two, let me go make a play. Let me go do something positive for my offense. And then he's like, hey, man, when he consistently gets to the third and fourth reading his progression, he's going to be exceptional. Now, the thing about him is he's one of those rare cats. Like most of us can see it when we draw it up on a greaseboard or when we watch it on film. But when you come off the sideline and the coach can explain to you, this is what they were in, and you can visualize it, you can see that visual picture in your brain and you're like, okay, I get it and not make a mistake going forward, basically assimilating that information, being able to process the whole thing with just words that create pictures in your mind. And that's where those elite level processors, those elite level decision makers, they see the game at a different level.

level. I think that's where Drake is right now. And it's not good enough to just call him one of the best young quarterbacks in football. He's just playing like one of the best quarterbacks in football. So, A.J. Brown, there was a story in the athletic today. And A.J. Brown, his words was like, I don't make friends easily. I'm a bit of a loner. The writer said his dopamine is catching the football. And in my lifetime, you can go back to Andre Reisner, T.O. The receivers have always been sort of a little bit of an NBA player. They're on an island. They're often the tallest, longest, best athlete,

often the fastest guy in the team. They're very unique athletes. They don't, you know, a lot of times they're just on an island. You throw it up for them

when they're not open. When reading that article, Philadelphia is such a collective. I mean, their number one play is the tush push. Ugly? All in as a team, right?

And A.J. Brown's the opposite. He's on the edge. He's on an island. I think last week they didn't play him, the offense was great. Did you ever have a teammate who was wildly talented but was a bit of a loner? Maybe wasn't part of the structure of the team. Doesn't make him a bad guy.

But like we always think the more talent, the better. Fit is really important in pro sports. I just don't know if A.J. Brown works in Philly long term. Yeah, I think you might be right. And, you know, I always say this about live receivers. I probably said it on your show at time or two. they're like children. They're dependent, right?

11 guys or 10 other guys have to do their job really well for you to catch a football. And then they're, you know, they whine and cry if they don't get fed. Like, they're just like toddlers. And that's not always a good thing to be that toddler. And I would tell you this. The guy's incredibly talented. But I go back to what wins in Philly. And what wins in Philly is exactly what you said.

Hey, we've got to be a dominant front. we've got to run the football. We've got to control the time of possession. We've got to limit our quarterback. He's not a high volume thrower. He's a low volume thrower off-the-play action stuff. When we get those single high safety rotations to where they're trying to stop the run game,

then we get access to the outside. And you look at it last week, played out exactly like that. They ran the sign on the ball. Seifuan Berkeley hits one deep for a touchdown early in that game. And Jalen Hertz had 20 balls that he threw. 15 completions. That's the formula. And like, listen, man, there's nothing wrong with winning that way. And there's nothing wrong with managing your team that way because that's what your identity is and that's the way you play the best. But that doesn't necessarily lend itself to a guy that wants to be

featured that wants to catch the football like AJ Brown does. You know, I got to ask you a question. It's kind of in the weeds. But I've seen Andy Reid got rid of Joe Tooney and their O line is ranked fourth, and they haven't even had Josh Simmons regularly. I've seen McVeigh rebuild his offensive line. There's something about offensive coaches, yet Tomlin, I'm on year seven. I don't like their O line. There is something about certain coaches, and you played the position at the highest level, and I think it's mostly offensive coaches, have an ability to mold mesh and create cohesion up front.

And again, Andy Reid's had to rebuild that thing four times. in six or seven years. What is the secret sauce? Now, you can always just go draft Penae Sewell. You know, there are ways Tristan worse. Sometimes you've figured out in April. But when I see these offensive coaches rebuilding the O lines over and over and over and over,

what's the secret sauce into building a great O line beyond buying Trent Williams? Yeah. So it becomes one of those five guys working together for, you know, for the, for each, for each other. Like, you've got to be on the same page. So you've got to be seeing things identically. And you've got to all be doing the work together.

You know, I always say this. All five of us can be doing the wrong thing. As long as we're doing the wrong thing together, we're going to get four yards. Like, that's how offensive line play works. And so it becomes continuity. How much continuity do you have as a great? group. The other thing that I think becomes apparent with guys like Andy Reid is there are guys

who call plays and there are guys who call offenses. And when you become somebody who becomes a creator of offense in structure and you understand the issues that your offensive line has and the offensive line faces, you start to call plays in a fashion that takes pressure off those guys. And this is one thing I always said over the course of my, you know, my analyst's career, but as I've traveled around and, you know, talk to different teams and consulted with different teams about play up front, how do you take passive out of pass protection? And the great play callers give you tools to take the passive out of pass protection to create, to create a situation where you're the aggressor, as opposed to just sitting back and thrown in.

40 times and becoming a catcher's mitt. Nobody is going to have success doing that. So it's really the structure of how you call plays, how you tie plays together, and how you let that offensive line come off the ball and actually be the aggressors in those things. When you can play ahead of the chains and a second down and four and your whole playbook is open to you, then the defense has to do what? They have to respond in kind, so they have to defend the run.

They have to defend the play action. They have to defend the play pass. They have to defend the dropbacks. They have to defend the quick game. You know what? You don't do real well when you do that? You don't rush the passer. You don't affect the quarterback when you have all those other things that you have to defend.

And that's the great play callers do that for their own lines. Finally, is there a team and you could include Denver? If you guessed today the Super Bowl, the best of the bet. Now, again, football looks different in late October, November, December. Run games become more important. Downfield throwing not as important. If I said today, Super Bowl, are there a team in each conference that jumps out to you? Yeah, the Chiefs right now jump out to me, which makes me want to puke.

Being a Bronco and living here, but they're really good. And the balance of what they're doing offensively and the way they're playing on the defensively. And the crazy thing about the Chiefs is I want to hate them so much. but I actually really respect and like Andy Reid I really respect Patrick Mahomes' ability to play I respect Spags and what they do on the

defensive side of the ball so I really respect them as a football team I just hit my AFC West ties I hate them with the white hot intensive of a thousand sons but I think they're the best team in the AFC right now maybe in the National Football League the other one is the Rams for me man

the Rams just have that you know the Rams are disguised that this finesse, you know, they've got this finesse football team, this spread it around football team. They're a power run, nasty, physical group, both lines of scrimmage offensively

and defensively disguised as a spread football team. Like they go to Halloween described, are disguised as a spread football team, and then they just punch you in the mouth. I really like the Rams. Love, I have obviously Stafford, but I like the way that

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On Sunday afternoon, it is the game of the weekend. Patrick Mahomes against Josh Allen, they will go head-to-head for the 10th time in the regular season. Josh Allen has dominated going four and one in the postseason. Obviously, it's a different story. Mahomes has dominated four and oh in the playoffs. Colin, I'm surprised the chiefs are laying two and a half. I think a lot of that has to do with everybody, including you, think the chiefs are the best team to leave.

The weather is a non-factor. It's going to be beautiful in 50 degrees. So it's going to be who's got the most weapons on offense. The offenses are going to move the chains, and I'm taking Kansas City. All right. You have the chiefs. I'll go head to head with you with the Buffalo Bills. I think that they're being disrespected just because of a couple bad games,

especially that Atlanta no-show. I mean, hell, they lost to Atlanta and people wrote them off as jokers. Meanwhile, Patrick Mahomes loses to Jacksonville. And it's like, well, you know, we excuse it out of the way. We'll see. I like Buffalo in this one. By the way, I loathe the MVP talk. I think that's stupid and cheap.

I am curious. This is one of the, you know, usually the MVP's decided by like five games. High leverage games where everybody, 30 million people are watching. This is going to be one of them. So I think the winner of this takes an edge in the theoretical MVP race. Would you agree?

Yeah, I think Baker had a lot of momentum early, but I think in terms of sheer production and Lamar's been hurt and Burroughs out and Herbert got sacked too much. Yeah, and Daniel Jones won't get it. Well, wait a minute, wait a minute. Mahomes loses this one. And then Mahom's loses to Daniel Jones.

All of a sudden it becomes, I think, a Daniel Jones, Josh Allen with Jordan Love in the mix as well. MVP discussion. How much money would you have won if you would have said, you know, in a couple years, I believe in Daniel Jones. He'll be. Nobody said. He'll finish second in the MVP voting. I mean, that's the thing. You've got to be careful about saying hot take.

If I'd have told you a year out, yeah, KD's going to go to his rival, the Warriors. Brady's going to leave and go to Tampa. Daniel Jones, if he gets a single MVP vote, is one of the stories of the last five years of the NFL. Oh, you'll get an MVP vote. I know there's people saying, what about Jonathan Taylor? The running backs are nice. They're not MVP caliber. I'm sorry.

Those are the rules. Like, you have to pick a quarterback. It's the most important position in sports. That's like the rule in MVP voting. I would have no problem giving Jonathan Taylor MVP. None, zero. I wouldn't have had a problem given Sequin MVP last year. No problem.

You're a quarterback elitist. I am one of the people. Let's move on to Washington. And Jada Daniels, just Jaden Daniels stuff is a little disappointing. He did not practice last week. Obviously didn't play. Dan Quinn, however, confirmed that his rehab has gone well. And they expect Daniels to return to practice today.

Now, they have an extra day with the game against Seattle. Oh, no, they don't have an extra day. It's Sunday night. I thought it was Monday. So Seattle, Washington, Sunday night. I like Washington. Yeah. Daniels has missed three starts this season. He hasn't been the amazing rookie quarterback we saw, Colin. You definitely like Washington here? Is it the number? Are you betting the number? Or is there something schematically used to. I saw three and a half yesterday on a site. At three and a half, I love the commanders. It's my favorite underdog pick of the week,

the commanders. Those Sunday night, Monday night games, if you get good quarterback play, you're at home. The crowd's lubricated. It's a little louder. It's a long flight for Seattle. Seahawks have been a good road team, though, but if it's three and a half, it's one of my favorite bets of the week, commanders.

Be careful here. Road team off a buy. The good teams coming off by this season have looked good off the buy. The bad teams, there's no hope for them. Be careful here, my friend. I'm trying to help you out. I don't want you to come here at L.A. next week

all broken penniless. Jay Matt, can you pick up a tab and it's not happening. Final story, NBA, Colin. And look at us, wedging some NBA into it. And your guy, Jonathan Cominga. I mean, you mentioned him in every trade possible over the last six months and now he's starting for the Warriors. And you know what?

He's playing good defense. He looks like kind of Harrison Barnes-ish with some athleticism. Steve Kerr has recognized the growth and development of Jonathan Comingka. He's been fantastic. And, you know, last night we put him on jaw. You know, tonight we'll put him on James Harden. He's, I think he's ready to take on that role. He's really putting a lot of pressure on people.

So, you know, the biggest thing is the combination of Jimmy and Draymond and JK. Wasn't great last year, but because of all the improvements JK has made, his passing and the stuff I just mentioned, it's really clicking. and so we're going to stay with that. Here's the thing. He couldn't shoot a three last year. This year he's on fire. Now, it's early.

It's early. And you lose your legs. You know, they're asking him to do big defensive assignments. That is a lot on the other end. So again, over the course of his season, he's not going to shoot 44% from threes. You just get worn down. You lose your legs. You lose your, a little of your arc.

But last year, the one thing about, I've watched him twice this year, much better three-point shooter. The other thing is he's still super. young. Is he like 23 years old or 24 years old? Very young. He is very rarely does a guy walk into the NBA and they're a good passer. LeBron was rare. I mean, LeBron was had an IQ of a 10-year vet. Most young guys come in. They don't have a great outside shot. I mean, Ray Allen didn't shoot threes in college like he did in Boston and with the Miami. He was an athletic guy that could shoot a little. Kaminga's passing and shooting, which take time in the gym and feel

are much better. No question. You've got much better feel offensive. Listen, your off-season NFL picks have been fire. Your off-season NBA takes. You had the Warriors, I believe, missing the playoffs and the Mavericks, I think, in the NBA finals. We'll give you a Mulligan.

You got some time left. Warriors look pretty damn good, Colin. I'm not going to lie. Okay, old team. Okay, they don't need as much seasoning. Yep, yep. Okay. Old team looks good.

early in the NBA season. Okay. Old team will get banged up more. Old team will recover more slowly. Enter load management. The Warriors were going to look, I mean, same coach, Draymond, I mean, it's the same guy. Continuity.

Veteran coach, high IQ team, they brought everybody back, a lot of movement in Dallas with Kyrie's out. Cooper's in. Dallas has all sorts of movement. It's not a shock the Warriors, good early. That's not a knock on him, but they were going to play good, they were going to play well early. You can bet against Steph Curry at your own peril, my friend. I will not do such a thing. He's, I love watching it. Jay Mack with the news.

Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Heard Lye News. You forget, Bo Nix has 61 college starts, SEC, Pac-12. He's a season veteran. Kaminga, you know, these guys that come into the NBA at 18 or 19 years old, they come, you know, they do a year in the G-League or one year of college where they play 35 games. I mean, it takes, they can't go to the hotel bar and have a glass of wine. I mean, literally, it takes these guys. When you watch Cominga, it's a prime example, he just turned 23. He's just figuring out how to play basketball, and the Warriors' offense is one of the most sophisticated in the league.

Young guys have always struggled. So you watch Cummina now, you're like, oh, you can see the time in the gym. He can really shoot at three. but you can also his feel. Draymond's always been a great passer. But Draymond spent, I mean, didn't he spend four years at Michigan State, three or four years under Tom Izzo? So Draymond came into the NBA like seasoned.

Excellent coach, good conference. You know, these young guys come in. It just, like I've said, it's about Jalen Green. It's not the talent. They don't know how to play basketball yet. And for the record, J-MAC, just a reminder, the Warriors last year started 12 and 3. So when you bring back the composition,

smart coach, smart Steph Curry, Draymond Gray. The question with the Warriors is February and March. And they hold up. It's not October. So yes, I agree. I was mostly joking about your Mulligan. I do think, listen, we talked load management earlier, Colin.

You said they're one of the oldest teams in the league. It's smart for the Golden State Warriors to load manage this season. Correct? Or true or false? Yeah. Steph should play 68 games. Yeah, and Draymond should load manage Jimmy Butler for sure. Absolutely.

Yeah. You should Jimmy Butler and Steph and Draymond should be at the 70 game mark. Resort your. Yeah, I mean, I don't have problems with old guys who have been carrying the league with Ty. That doesn't bother me at all. Can you check? I know you're a big baller. Can you text Michael Jordan?

Hey, man, the old guys should load manage, MJ. Stay up, King. You know, just something funny and witty. Yeah, all right. He's got a bag of those. to me. J. Mack with the news, and we'll take a break back finally in Chicago. 15 minutes left, don't go anywhere.

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Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember.

I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, for people could call in and say, hey Jonas,

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Like LeBron heading into the playoffs without Luca and Austin Reed. And finding ways to win no matter what. He's the smartest player to ever play the game. His IQ is at a level that we've never seen before. And he knows without Luca and Austin Reeves, I got to manipulate the game. We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs. I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series

because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup, he has to really guard guys like Nas Reid. He has to guard Julius Randall. And then he has to give us everything he gives us on the night-to-night basis on offense. And when IT's friends stop by like Quentin Richardson, we dive into some playoff history too. Steve Nash will get that thing.

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podcast. I was just thinking about Joel Klatte was talking about what a great job. So LSU, Penn State, and Florida all have job openings. If I did a pie chart of the 10 best jobs in college football

and I consider like quality of life, who's your biggest booster, I would do Texas at the top and then beneath that I would do Ohio State and Georgia. So Buckeyes top or Texas Longhorns first, Ohio State and

Georgia second. All of them, by the way, nice college towns. That matters. The next three, I would say, LSU, USC in Florida. And then the next four, 7, 8, 9, 10, Notre Dame, Oregon, Michigan, Penn State. You say, what about Clemson, Miami? They're in the ACC. They don't get the Big Ten money. They don't get the SEC money. Now, right now, Oregon doesn't get the Big Ten money either, but they have Phil Knight money. So they get the money. So Clemson and Miami just don't, they don't get the money that the SEC or the Big Ten schools. Yeah. And Oklahoma is probably the one on the way out.

The state of Oklahoma, what it used to deliver in terms of high school football players 20, 25 years ago now today, it's not the same and they don't have a Phil Knight. And I think Tennessee volunteers is way up there. Tennessee, Oklahoma, Clemson, Miami.

Tennessee's been so dysfunctional. But I would say all things considered, Texas Top, Ohio State, Georgia, LSU, USC, Florida, Notre Dame, Oregon, Michigan, Penn State. LSU is a little crazy town. The downside of the SEC is that's why I like Texas. They're in the SEC.

They're not of the SEC. They're a little removed. Music, food scene in Austin, a little broader world. You know, they just run through coaches, run through people in the SEC. You know, you said Alabama. With NIL, did I leave out Alabama? Okay, I'll put Alabama fourth over Michigan.

No, no, no, I'll put Alabama fourth over Penn State. So I'll do Michigan and then Bama. And then Penn State can complain. So let's do it again. Texas, Ohio, State, Georgia, LSU, USC, Florida, Notre Dame, Oregon, Michigan, Bama. In the new NIL world, I do, Bama doesn't have the money. Bama does not have the money of Georgia, Texas, Ohio State, USC right now, Florida.

And this is not standings. This is not what did Nick Saban do. Yeah, I guess Penn State, Oklahoma, Clemson, Miami, I'd probably leave out. It's close. Colin, do you think this is a layered discussion? Because I know you have Texas won, but we forget before Sark, they had a run of not being good for like a decade. I think when Arch Manning committed there, Texas was something like five and six or five.

It's coming off a five and seven seasons. Well, I mean, let's be honest. Georgia played with their food for 20 years until Kirby Smart. It was still a great job. I mean, Georgia forever. You're like, come on, let's win a big game. And then they got Kirby Smart and they did. I mean, some of it is how much is the collective willing to spend?

I think that needs to be like one of the top questions before you at any of these job interviews. So Ole Miss has, they're spending a lot of money on players. I mean, what if what they're spending is competitive to what LSU is? And the money's competitive coaching-wise. I don't think LSU's that much of a better job in this era than Ole Miss. I'm sorry. I just, you can't convince me just based on, well, it's a cooler town.

LSU. LSU. LSU. LSU. L-Miles won an Addie, Saban did at Ors. Those are different eras, Colin? Ed Orsron was like, how many years ago? 10 years ago.

No, Joe Brow. With Barrow, fine, that was six years ago, right, in the COVID era. Well, NIL's a little different now, right? Wouldn't you say? If you take Lane Kiffin out of Ole Miss, how often have we ever talked to Old Miss? Well, Lane Kiffin is more valuable to Old Miss than Vice versa. Lane can get a job anywhere. He can get an NFL job, honestly.

Lane, Ole Miss needs Lane more than Lane needs Old Miss. Remember Dan Mullen? Dan Mullen was a hot shot at Mississippi State. They were ranked first in the country, I think, into like November. you can do things if you're a really good coach anywhere. I just think right now this whole like LSU is the best job in the country. I don't know that I'm buying that. I have not heard the compelling argument.

Now listen, if you're in the deep south and LSU is a cool college town and you want to be in a cool area, okay, I'll take that over Oxford. But how much of that factors into like a 40-year-old, 50-year-old guy making a decision? People say Oxford's a great college town. I'm sure it is. The Grove. Oh, man. You're 40 years old.

really care about a great college town, do you? No, I'm saying if you're asking me, if I could have any college football job, me, I would have a different opinion. I would take USC and Texas. And I may take Florida third because I like Gainesville. So let's drill down on Texas. I've never been to Austin, so I don't know. I can't speak about it. Tell me, what is so awesome about Austin, Texas, besides Joe Rogan moved there with a bunch of podcast comedians? Well, it's just, you're saying, it's like saying somebody's never been to London, what makes London so cool? Well, you've got to go to London to know what London... Well, London has an amazing history. Austin's like a last 20 years. It's been amazing. Right? Austin wasn't

some mecca in the 1980s. It's a kind of a new boomtown right now. No, I think Nashville's the newer boomtown. I think Austin's got the river, hill country, the music, the food. I think Austin's just probably the best college town out there. It's one of the best college towns. That's part of it. That's a compelling argument. And it's got no state tax, best athletic director probably in the country. And it's just got an endless reservoir. It's like Amazon, if it was a college football program. There's just a lot of money always.

So they've just got a lot of things. It's got, you know, it's a little hot in the summer for my taste. But it's no state tax, great economy. I mean, it's a great place. There's a reason, even when they're not good, they recruit well. You take a kid to Austin, Texas for the night, or you take a kid to, you know. It's cool. There's a lot of fun stuff to you got it.

So now let's get to the football. Who's more likely to win sooner? Whoever's coaching in Oregon or whoever's coaching in Austin? Well, Texas has advantages. Oh, does it? Yeah. Oregon's in the mix every year. Oregon's tucked in the far left rainy part of the country.

If you took Phil Knight out, Oregon would be winning six games, seven games a year. That's if Phil Knight's still there. Nike's in their backyard. I just think it's easier to win at Oregon by a mile than LSU. I don't understand why someone would go LSU over Oregon. I'm a coach. I want to win. Let me ask you, if it's so hard to win big,

then why did for 20 years the SEC crown the national champion? Nick Saban didn't seem to have a problem. Kirby Smart's not having a problem. Lane Kiffin turned around Ole Miss. If you're a good coach, you win games anywhere. That's a good. Kurt Signetti's crushing. in the Big Ten and Indiana.

So, I mean, if you're confident, it doesn't matter. You're going to get, it's like, it's almost like the world today. If you're good and start a YouTube channel, you don't have to be to network. You'll get an audience. If you start a podcast and you're fascinating, you'll get an audience. So you can't be afraid of, oh my God, we got to play Georgia.

Nick Saban played them a lot and won a bunch of natties. Well, we got to play Ohio State. Jim Harbaugh did really well with that at the end. You got to win games. I'm just saying, I mean, the top two teams in the country right now are in the Big Ten. There's a bunch of good teams. I just watched Alabama struggle this past weekend with an totally average team. Yeah.

And Alabama today doesn't look like Alabama five years ago. They've got a gauntlet of a schedule. Let me ask you about Clark Lee at Vanderbilt. I know Vanderbilt, what he's done, bringing in players, column, with their recruiting. Bruce Feldman just did a story on this. I'm just telling you, I appreciate that what Clark Lee's done at Vanderbilt. than anything that I've seen at LSU from Brian Kelly the last few years. I mean, he's getting four or five-star guys and losing games.

Clark Lee at Vandy, winning with like two-and-three-star players. When you do more with less, that's when I look up to you. And I think Clark Lee is a guy who should probably be in the mix. You used to be a writer, a sports writer. You like stories. You don't think that's an amazing story? Yeah, it is. You like a guy that does more with less.

I like a guy that does more with more. I like Nick Sabin at Bama. You like the story. I like the dynasty. That's okay. I'm an underdog guy. You love heavy favorites. What can we say?

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