The Herd with Colin Cowherd - The Herd - Hour 3 - Super Wild Card Weekend

Episode Date: January 17, 2023

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This is the Herdline News. Talked a lot about the Arizona Cardinals in recent weeks. They just announced they have hired. a new GM. He was the Titans Director of Player Personnel. His name, Monty Austin Fort. Never heard of him in my life until this very moment he was introduced today. Explained how he plans to build a team going forward. We are not just collecting talent. We're going to build a team. We're going to look for the right type of players. Ego will not be tolerated in this organization.

We are going to look for focused, driven, and people that are willing to put the team first at every step of the way. Our goal here is to win, to build a team that can win the NFC West, to advance in the playoffs, and ultimately for everyone in this organization to enjoy in what it feels like to hold that Lombardi Trophy. So Tennessee and New England like physical players. So I was talking to somebody yesterday who had a hell of a career,

and we were talking about the Rams. and he had told me they're going to this offseason get more physical because the Niners right now in the division are literally after you play the Niners, they push you around and you're all banged up. So this guy is going to become, what they're going to do, they're going to start getting very physical players in Arizona. They're going to go from a finesse team, so are the Rams. And they're going to bring in Brian Flores as my guess, another guy who demands accountability and physicality. So I don't love defensive coaches in 2023. But in this instance, this GM and Brian Flores, remember Flores came from the New England tree, they're going to change, they want them to look a little bit like San Francisco.

Because San Francisco now in the division is beating everybody up. So that's why the Seahawks this year went and got a power back, tackles. Everybody in the division now, watch this division get. and during the draft, the Rams will start strengthening their own line. They'll get a bigger running back. They'll get more tight ends. Watch Arizona get physical players, more run game oriented. So what Arizona is going to do here, and I like it, the GM comes from that New England,

Tennessee, butt kickers, physical team first guys, and then the coach who the GM hires in line with that worldview. So I think Arizona is going to look and feel different going forward. And I'm here for it because they're fancy and clever and twitchy and quick and it's not working. Boy, that is, I love the optimism. That's glass, half-full calling for you right there. Because this team is the opposite of that. They have no toughness starting with the quarterback, Kyla Murray,

who did not want to smoke from Aaron Donald in a playoff game that trickled over. There's a multi-year rebuild. And I am always skeptical of former Patriot guys coming in. I know what to do. I know how to build a team. Fair. And he does know Flores from New England, so I would agree with your assessment. Fair.

They pick third in the draft. They have clearly targeting Jailin Carter. There isn't really an offensive lineman to go three. Well, my rule has always been, unless there's a Trevor Lawrence or an Andrew Luck. You always trade down. Always. Well, you could do what the Jets did, trade up for Mark Sanchez and then go to two straight AFC championships. Boom.

Yeah, baby. We got Sanchez coming up next. I had to get him all. But I generally believe if teams that are drafting in the top six have multiple needs, now the Jets could argue, if they get a left tackle and figure out the quarterback position, trade for Lamar. Yeah, trade for them. They solve their issues. Maybe Sanchez will chime in on Lamar Jackson.

I think it's a fascinating. I think Lamar to the Bears or the Jets is a fascinating discussion. I'm taking heat for bashing Joe Namath earlier. I wasn't bashing him. He's no Lamar Jackson. Come on. He had a good career, but he's Lamar Jackson. Come on.

All right. Next up, Cliff Kingsbury. expected to be a hot commodity this off season. He is hot. Commodity. I'll just let that sit out there. Multiple teams allegedly won him, maybe the Jets, the Patriots. He reportedly bought a one-way ticket to Thailand and has respectfully declined all coaching inquiries. A, have you been to Thailand?

No, I tend to buy return flights everywhere I go. I'm not a one-way ticket guy. I'll say Thailand was pretty awesome. Oh, you went there? I went with the wife way back. My mom's sister had a job. there, so we were able to stay there. I always wanted to go to Fiji.

That's not Thailand. I know. I know it's not Thailand. It's called Fiji. I can figure that out. You know what's weird? When the elephant, you know, you walk on this path through the woods or whatever. And then the elephant just starts turning sideways.

I'm like, what the hell's going on? I was a little nervous. Is he going crazy? And then he just, you know, goes to the bathroom and it is like nothing you've ever seen. Because he doesn't want to poop on the trail. He poops like to the side. Wow. Very interesting.

Also, the wife and I got robbed there. I'm not going to talk about it. In Thailand? Yeah. Which is, by the way, not Fiji. Correct. Yes, it's not Fiji. Anyway, Cliff Kingsbury, do you think he just stays in Thailand?

What a trip. You got robbed and saw an elephant poop. Get me a one-way ticket to Thailand. To Thailand. Yeah, no, it's awesome. Final story, C.J. Stroud, he made it official. He's declared for the NFL draft in a statement posted on social media. Was this a surprise?

He said it... No. It was one of the most difficult decisions of his life. Maybe he wants to stick around to throw more to Harrison instead of... Or stick around and lose to Michigan. No, he could go to go... Go, where's he going to go? Houston, Chicago, maybe. Apparently Chicago's not off the table. Isn't that crazy? Well, the GM did not, they didn't draft him. Not his guy.

Yeah, I know. I got my doubts on that whole operation now. Ten straight losses. I got my, I got my issues with Chicago. Defensive coach, first two picks are defense. Starting to feel very Rex Ryan. That's why I'm sorry. Some guys just don't, they don't get offense. Another Jets reference, yeah, we got Sanchez. So real quick, CJ Stroud, 8,000 passing yards, 85 touchdowns, 12 picks. Big Ten defense is kind of spotty. I like Stroud more than a lot of people, but remember what he did to Georgia? No, I would take C.J. Stroud. He's, I would, here's a thing. Bryce Young's more talented.

But Bryce Young's body, he better go to a team with an O-line. CJ Stroud could take hits like Burrow for two years, withstand it. Bryce Young is barely six feet tall in a buck 92. Bears GM calls you after the show. Cowherd, I heard what you said. What would you do? Draft Stroud or keep fields and trade down? No, I would trade down.

I'd trade down against as many picks as I could. What about Will Anderson coming off the edge of it from Alabama? Chicago's always had defense. How's it done for them? Last year they got a corner and a safety. They got a Super Bowl in 1985. Oh, yippee. And they're still celebrating.

And every half time they... A lot of teams like the Jets, they haven't even won a Super Bowl. Come on. The standard of the league shouldn't be the Bears. I mean, I'm sorry, but they've been drafting defensive guys for years. They lost 10 straight games. They drafted a corner in a safety. Both great. How did it work out for you? How many teams do you think have not won a Super Bowl since 85?

The Jets are certainly in there. There's a lot of teams that haven't won one. Bears at least have one. Their identity has been defense, Colin. Look at you. So sour on the Chicago Bears. They've lost 10 straight games. It's impossible in this league. We're taking for the number one pick. Houston Texans were in like six games in their last 10. It's also fair. J-Mack with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Hurd Line. in an Olympics where doping is not only legal

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Playoffs, baby. He got the playoffs and beat Brady and Manning. Fox Sports. All in the road. You were the quarterback for the Jets' last playoff win. I remember him well. You know what game always sticks out to me, and this is so random. It's not the Brady Manning's.

It's coming out the San Diego and the fog. Oh, that was fun. And it was low score. I don't know why that game. It was. Remember how foggy it was? It was really foggy before the game. But you know what was interesting?

That grass, that field, like everything there, smelled exactly like the Coliseum when we went out on the field for pregame. Yeah. And early outs and all that and shorts and T-shirts. And then on the loudspeaker I hear, testing, testing, one, two, three, San Diego Chargers. It's the same announcer from SC from the Coliseum. I'm like, boys, we are good. We're winning today. You know, like it just gave me a.

And you did. A little juice. Yeah. That was fun. That was nice. So, listen. That's about as good as I've ever seen Dak. Now,

Whoa. Now, tell me that. When things go well, you know, they stand basketball. Guy gets in his own. Streaky, yeah. So when I watched that last night, I was like, boy, he's moving. I love that when he moved left, he kept holding, holding. Is it zone?

Is it scheme? Is it, like, why do quarterbacks get super hot for three hours? I think some of it, like, even when you watch that first touchdown pass, he knew the exact coverage. They had two seams kind of working up, both sides put in the middle safety in conflict. And he went longer than normal to the left, to the left. I'm throwing left. I'm throwing left with like two resets.

And you see the safety in the middle of the field is just watching his eyes the whole way. And he's almost like resetting left to throw right, which is weird. But you could tell he just anticipated everything. He had answers for everything. He had a contingency plan. This is what we're expecting. If we don't get that, I'm going here with the football. Okay.

And most of the time, it seemed like it was what he expected. Anything else? He was on such a hot streak that when he did roll out to his left and is backpedaling, backpedaling, ready to throw it away, he's so hot, it's like, oh,

give me one more look, give me one more look. And you can tell he was just in a groove where you're like, I ain't going to miss today, so just keep dialing him up. I thought the back of the end zone throw, that's when you're hot. That was pretty.

That's like a fallaway jump. Oh, yeah. I mean, I mean, that throw, could not have been too. Stroke in the ball. It was awesome. It was so fun to watch a guy like that.

I mean, that's the way you're used to seeing Tom Brady. That's the way you're used to seeing some of those beautiful throws. And it's got to be up in a way like this was nice. Now this is this one little fade away? Watch this. And he left the DB in the dust. And there's not a ton of room there. There's not a ton of room to miss that.

Boom, you keep the guy going in stride. He's wide open. Keep your heel on the ground so you don't overthrow him. You know, a lot of guys get on their. toes and they'll sail it out of bounds. Let me ask you. You saw the one, Herbert in their game, the one that went over Keenan Allen's head, the wide open.

I mean, that would have changed the game. Sure, they shouldn't have been in that game at the end, but he sailed it. And Keen and Allen's wide open. It's one of those ones you remember in those moments, tuck your chin, heel on the ground so you don't overthrow the guy and sail it into the sixth row because you're so amped up, he's wide open. So when you get hot, like, Dak was really in a groove, are you more prone to to say, Mike, I want to do something.

I think it's more of, you get in this flow state almost and things are happening a little slower. You feel like you're in control and you're anticipating so well, whether it's the Rose Bowl game or one of those playoff games where you're just like, it's exactly what I expected. Here comes the guy on his break.

There's the window. Boom. And bam, ball's there. All right, dial it up. And you're kind of looking at the coordinator like, let's go. We got it today, baby. Let's go Sark.

Let's go Shoddy. Come on. Let's go. Keep them coming. Dial them up. You know, and you're just, you're hot, you know, so you don't want it to end. It's awesome. So we were talking about this earlier that Jeremy Lynn, you may have been in. Yeah, I remember. Yeah, I remember. He took the league over for three weeks, right?

Yeah. And there are these moments in time. Who was the guy you were talking about, J. Mack, the Yankee? Kevin Moss. I remember the name. So guys come into baseball, football, and for three weeks, they play out of the game. of their mind, and then they have like semi-redeemable careers or disappear. So you look at Brock Purdy, and you know college football pretty well.

The one thing that jumps out to me is Iowa State literally plummeted when he left. And it's like, are we looking at like a great player? Because Iowa State's got a good coach. How much of this is lightning in a bottle, or do you see stuff, Mark, with his feet, that you're like, this will stick? No, I think his mechanics are solid. I think some of the throws he'll fall off a little bit on and he loses a little velocity on. I still think, you know, some of his deep balls could be a little bit better.

He was definitely better this past game. But it's so hard to judge a guy like that based on the team, right? Like we saw Tua last year versus this year with different wideouts, different personnel. It's so hard to put a stamp on it. Like, is this it forever? Is this sustainable? Is this, you know, can he keep this going? And so every week you're kind of, at least I am.

I'm watching and holding my breath, like, oh, is he still going to do it? Or is he going to come back down to Earth? Or is this really who he is? And so I think we just need a bigger sample size for a guy like that. But it's been fun to watch. And his emotions and stuff, like after the play, he's really into it. He's so calm. And then it, like, just explodes, you know, like a stick of dynamite or something.

This dude's just waiting, waiting, waiting. Boom, the big play happens. And you see him pumping his fist and rallyling the guys up. And they love it. The guys gravitate towards the guy. So you can tell he's got it. He's got some moxies. He's got whatever it takes to grab their attention or else you ain't fooling the dudes on that team.

Like that team is full of alphas. And this dude stepped in and now he's the guy and owning it and grabbing the reins and the whole deal. That is so important. That is more impressive to me sometimes than some of the throws and the execution on the field. Well, by the way. His demeanor. Go back to your career. You had a great defense, a great run game, an experienced head coach,

a very good left tackle, and very similar. It was a quarterback situation where they didn't ask you to carry the team, but they did ask you about three times a game to make a throw. Oh, no doubt. And those windows are tight because you're going run, run, pass on a lot of those. And it's third and ten. It's third and twelve. So, you know, those are big third down conversions.

It feels like four completions and one because they're so tough. So we were watching the Chargers game at our 900 club out in Manhattan Beach. Jay Mack and I were. And the first half, I was sitting there and I'm like, I felt so bad for Trevor Lawrence. I know. And then I thought to myself, you only get about five minutes in the room at halftime. And Doug's a really good coach. But I thought, God, Doug's got to bring him down.

And I've met Trevor one time. And I said this when I met him, he's such an, he's such an adult. I was in an area where there were a bunch of people staring at him. He's just really a grown up in the room. And I'm like, when I watched the second half, I'm like, boy, that personality, helps. Have you ever had a game where you went into half and you had to forget the first half? I mean I want to say Buffalo

at home my rookie year. I'm almost positive. I threw five interceptions. We rushed for like 200 yards and almost won the game in overtime with five picks. And it's almost, I mean, mathematically it's almost impossible. Like the winning percentage was like 968 or whatever it was the other night for the Chargers. There's no way this team's coming back. You see the graph, you know, when you check your phone about the games and stuff,

and it's like, you know, win percentage through the roof. So I remember being in that football game, and the craziest thing is, like, the first one was a tip ball. So, like, the most important thing I think for a quarterback is you've got to get to the truth immediately because people say, like, well, you've got to have amnesia and just forget about it. Well, not necessarily true. You got to get to the truth of it, put it in its place, and then move on, right?

And if you need the 30 seconds or 20 seconds or 20s. 20 seconds or whatever to get a good yell out or, you know, scream in your helmet and just, oh, whatever, whatever you have to get out, get it out. And then, okay, what happened? Bad read, bad throw. Really good defensive play. Generally, not a really good defensive play. Like, those happen rarely, right?

Where a guy just makes a one-handed catch and whatever. But usually you probably underthrew it. Or you just force the ball that wasn't the right read. There's another guy standing there wide open or a better option or throw it away, take a sack, whatever. So you have to categorize them immediately, I feel like. And then this is going to sound crazy. But if you've thrown four, you can't be scared to throw five.

And that's how you have to attack the rest of the game. He totally did it. And that is not easy because you've got to flip it in your head. And you've got to flip it to the point where you're almost convincing yourself because everybody else is watching. As soon as you go in the tank, it's curtains for the whole team. Like you can't even afford to let that happen because everybody's watching it. You're the guy.

You know what I mean? They walk in the room and your head and shoulders, like above everybody else, Everybody knows that's our quarterback. And he acted like it in a really, really tough situation where a lot of guys would have folded up like a cheap suit. Yeah. Over the course of, I was always a Lamar Jackson fan, so I doubted him out of college. Yeah, are you saying Lamar to the Jets?

No, but it's interesting. So out of college, I didn't buy it. And then about, then he came in week 11 rookie year. I think he went six and one. Next year you watch him and you're like, it's not pretty, but I went and watched him live. So I went, I think it was a Chargers game or something. I want to go see him at the call see him. No, it was at the tiny place, the soccer stadium down in the Carson.

I wanted to see him live. I wanted to see him. He made a great throw to Mark Andrews. He made a lot of those throws. And then they played him again that year and the Chargers beat him second time around. And I knew some people on the Chargers and the feeling was the first time you face him, he's way faster and way better than you think. And then you get a read on him.

But I like him because he wins a lot of games. And I've always been a fan of his leadership, intangibles. but there's a Kauai Leonard thing going on I don't like he's nonverbal the communication spotty he I want my quarterback of all positions talk be up front yeah I feel like there's a lot of him he didn't go to the Cincinnati game isn't that odd that was a little strange I mean I would have thought he would be up in the booth right like or is there inflammation on the knee he doesn't want to travel I guess I mean obviously for a flight like you throw the game ready on it you know ice compression sleeve and stuff.

You're a former quarterback. What does it look like to you? That's strange because you feel like it's your family. Like you're leaving your boys. Like those are, I don't know, it just feels. It feels weird. And I just, for their sake, you know, I think you can kind of lose that locker room if you don't sign this guy back.

Like if things don't come together properly for both sides, I think it could be detrimental. And I mean, his offense coordinator, Coach Romance has done a really good job with him. You know, so. No question. These free agent things, it's always interesting because you go to a new system, you go somewhere else and people try and piecemeal some plays for you. And you don't look the same because the environment's different. The way the coaching is different.

And maybe not better or worse, but just different. Yeah, good point. And the result becomes different. And now you're like, maybe this guy's not so good. Maybe we overpaid for this guy. Maybe. and so I don't know but then you you know I'm talking about both sides of my mouth but on the other hand it's Lamar Jackson well he wins 75% of his stars just give him the damn ball and let him do what he does like he's amazing so

it's so weird it's so weird to see him like to think about him not being a raven just think about him being in a jets uniform it just seems odd to he fits culturally so it's a run first physical um I don't know I just feel like like it doesn't have that that, like, personality where he's going to, he's very mild manner. He's very quiet. But Baltimore is a defensive culture. The quarterbacks have never been big talkers. Yeah, and that's fine. I mean, everybody has their own style. You know, some guys are fiery, you know, like Philip Rivers. Some guys are Peyton Manning and above it all and just really sharp. And, you know, and other guys are like Lamar. I mean, Joe Flacco was very, you know, stoic.

And I don't know, there's just a fine line between, like, stoic and apathetic. You don't want to look like you don't want to be there. Right. But he loves it. You can tell he loves it. So I just, I don't want to see him anywhere else. That's just weird to me. Yeah. I think that's just a personal opinion. Okay, more with Mark Sanchez after this. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. Pauly Fusco here with Tony Fusco.

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A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me. Cliver Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment. And the next, we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast. It's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So, if you've ever supported me

or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be. Listen to the Clifford show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. Hey, this is Robert from the Stuff to Blow Your Mind podcast. Joe and I are both lifelong Star Wars fan, so we're celebrating May the 4th with a brand new week of fun, thought-provoking Star Wars-related episodes.

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So, Dak, I congratulated him right before that. Like, you just went down and won the game, son. Like, that was awesome. I'm so proud of you for a rookie to go do that. And then Aaron makes that play. But leading up to those practices, it's by week. We had the first round by. And we're putting our cleats on before practice.

and he goes, dude, I didn't realize this, but like, that was you playing for the Jets when I was like in junior high and I was like, thanks a lot. Like I feel really old now. And he goes, dude, you guys were bowling. And I said, yeah, bro, we were good. He's like, yeah, but you played really well in the playoffs. I was like, yeah, I know. And it's just like, yeah, I guess I just realized that.

I was like, thanks, man. I've been here all year. When you look back, I mean, you were going up against Brady and Manning in their prime. So all of a sudden, Trevor Lawrence is going to go. go into Mahomes in his prime. That's a lot. Yeah. So that's, I mean, and it feels like, so go back to the Brady Manning moments, what Trevor Lawrence, when you're going, you know, what he's expecting, yeah. Yeah, I mean, this is, you were facing Brady, who was every bit as big as Mahomes was now. No doubt. And you have to almost remind yourself, you're not playing against that guy.

You're not playing against him. You're playing against their defense. But it's hard because everybody's building this matchup up about that guy. and he's either the best or second best of all time, like, take your pick. So you also have to, at least I did, had to remind myself not to watch the big screen when they're on offense. Because sometimes you catch yourself watching those guys because they're who they are. Like you can't tell me people didn't watch Jordan and Kobe and all those guys like, ooh, just keep an eye on them when you're on the bench instead of, you know.

But you really got to focus on what you have to do and compartmentalize and put the blinders on and block all that out. But you can't help but want to have a better stat line. You know, you can't help but want to throw more touchdowns than that guy in that one game and beat the best on their field. You know, so Trevor's got that dog in them. And, I mean, they'll give it their best shot. I just feel like Casey's got too much for him.

Is there a difference, like to you, a palpable difference from, you know, like a wildcard round to divisional round? You know what's interesting is as there's less. games, all the media market beat riders from local places. So when we were in New York and if Washington and the Giants were out of it and Philly was out of it, like everybody from all those markets comes to your practice. So like the sidelines full. The press conference, we had to switch to a different room because we needed a gigantic like theater to fit all these people. And you could feel it's just. And you could just feel the, I don't know, the gravity, the brevity of what was about to happen.

And you have this heightened sense of awareness and focus. And I remember there was a hotel across from our facility in Florin Park called the Hamilton Park or something like that. Kind of like a rinky dink little hotel. I would stay there so I wouldn't have to drive home during the playoffs. Just because we'd stay so late. Like we were at the building so late with Shoddy and waiting for the calls on Tuesday night on your off day, waiting for, instead of waiting home for an email to print out the call sheet that you get as soon as it's hot off the press. I'm like waiting in the office for plays,

and I would just go crash next door. So I didn't have to drive all the way home, and I was ready to go in the morning. Like, it was just because it was that important. You just, I didn't want to leave an hour to chance. Like, I didn't want to leave those 30 minutes to and from the facility to chance and think, like, if we lose this game, God, what could I have done in that amount of time? Could I have studied one more play?

Could I have figured out one more bliss? Could I have blocked up one more protection? Like, I don't know. It just was like this thing. I couldn't leave. I couldn't leave. The New York Giants history is they actually sometimes play better on the road in the playoffs. Some of your biggest wins, two of your biggest wins were road.

Yeah, road dogs. And it's interesting. I remember Eli's run. They went to Green Bay. Is there, as the Giants go to Philadelphia, there's a little less pressure? Right, you're an underdog. You go back to your experience. Daniel Jones is going to go in now an eight-point dog.

God, what a game he had to. does it take a little pressure off going on the road in some ways yes in some ways you're just you know 53 against the world and everybody in that stadium and riding into the stadium and everybody's flipping the bird to you and you know moon in the bus you liked it oh i just it kind of just gets your juices going as a competitor you're like sweet let's go whip up on them in their place you know it's just kind of a i don't know a little extra something and um i think the guys can feed off of that unless, you know, you've built up this, you know, where the Seahawks were with the Legion of Boom, like they had this home mentality. Like, we never had that with the Jets. Like, we were, we were

streaky, right? Like, we'd get hot at times. We were really bad at times. So the fan base was kind of all over the place. Sometimes they're there. Half of them leave. And then we come back and beat Houston. The stadium's empty. Like, so it wasn't like a, this home field advantage that's, you know, Lambo. That's, you know, where this, uh, the Seahawks play. Um, The Chiefs, you know, like that home environment is a thing. It is, it is real. They let you in, they lock the doors, kick your ass up and down the field, and then throw you out. You know, like that's the way it feels in those stadiums.

So we never really had that. We had to go on the road and kind of create our own, generate our own juice that way. And that was kind of our mentality. That became our identity. Felt like Daniel Jones got himself an extension, probably made 40, 50 million bucks on that game. Absolutely. And in the season, too, like, he really cut down on the turnovers. Yes.

And it just made them competitive immediately. He finally had a coach that just believes in him and was just breathing life into the guy and confidence. You could see it the way he's out on the field. He felt bad. Yes, he looked big. He looked strong. He looked like the moment wasn't too big.

He was owning the stage, you know, and it was so impressive to watch. And I'm so happy for the guy because he's knowing that. market knowing what he's been through you're just like dude it's hard when you get dogged out there it's like oh my gosh like you can't turn anywhere on a street corner without you know somebody talking about it it's on your phone it's on every news channel every radio channel it's always something and it's like when are they going to get rid of daniel jones when are they going to get rid of daniel jones when are they going to get rid of daniel and the dudes just had to completely block that out and and and own it him and Sequin and

Martin Dale. It's just like, oh my God. And he's a six round pick. They bring him over from Buffalo. Like he didn't get to play. And once again, Daveo, like, Daveo and Martindale are getting these guys to play at this high level consistently. And it's like, guys, if you trust me, I'll put you in the right spots. Just go execute. Don't do anything more than you can physically do. I'm not asking you to be Superman. Just do what I tell you. And then when it's time to make a big play, you know, we can go 50% on some of those big plays. But give me the routine ones.

And you could tell, it just set a different standard. And they're tough. They're just a tough team. They beat you up. They're physical. They're a little like Baltimore in the AFC. Oh, is up for a good fight. They're kind of fun to watch. It's just, it's like a grimy, tough team. I don't know. Mark

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