The Herd with Colin Cowherd - THE HERD - Hour 3 - Talking about the current NFL news and rumors

Episode Date: April 1, 2026

Colin talks to sports analyst Lance Zierlein about the story claiming Jalen Hurts is hard to coach, where Ty Simpson might land in the NFL draft, Fernando Mendoza and more See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Find your local station for the herd at Fox Sports Radio.com. or stream us live every day in the IHeart Radio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. He just got inducted into the Texas Radio Hall of Fame a couple years ago. NFL draft analyst, NFL.com. Dad was a coach in the league, selection committee member for the best college offensive line unit. Very respected, very popular radio host in Houston. I've been using him for years.

I think his draft preview. I'm on it every day, this point forward. Lance Zerline is joining us, and he is joining us live. Okay, so the big story today, last August, I had a source tell me that was close to Harry Roseman. Hertz was not loved. I didn't know why, necessarily, that he could be a little tough to coach. And then there was a reporter that went on the Seth Myers, not Seth Meyer's show,

Seth Joyner Show, and came out and said, he pats the ball, he pats the ball, it frustrates the hell out of the coaches. You remember last year off a buy or the year before they asked him to throw less and all of a sudden, Jeremy Fowler comes out today and it is a dozen sources and it's like he's not well liked, he's hard to coach.

Your take on a team that makes radical moves with quarterbacks and coaches, even if they've been to Super Bowls, what was your first take as somebody close to the league on the Jalen Hurts story and maybe the draft? Yeah, you know, the first time I heard that information was last year before the draft just kind of, you know, just kind of popped up on a conversation I had had with the league source.

And I was pretty shocked to hear it. I hadn't heard anything about that previously. And it hasn't left my mind since then, Colin. When you hear something like that, it kind of impacts when I watch games. I watch, you know, his body language on the sideline, how he interacts with teammates. And we know he has issues with A.J. Brown or A.J. Brown has issues with him, I should say. I don't think whether there's smoke, there's usually fire with these kind of things. And I certainly think Jeremy Fowler's very respected.

Yeah. The, you know, the Ty Simpson stuff is interesting. I said, I think he's going to get drafted in the 15 to 25 space. I think he's better than other guys in recent years who have gone there, not Lamar Jackson, obviously. But he's better than a lot of guys that have drafted there. Jets, maybe. Are you a believer in Ty Simpson? Let's start with that.

Oh, man, it's nuanced. historically, one-year starters just don't cut it. I mean, because you can't really learn on the fly in the NFL. It's very difficult because most of the teams who draft you, you know, the fan base and the media will start to turn on you after a couple of years. We're already seen it with J.J. McCarthy who didn't have, you know, a rookie season. He didn't have a rookie season and didn't start much in college football. I think with Ty Simpson, you need to have an organization that has a plan in place,

someone who's already in place and then you bring him along more slowly. And, you know, frankly, you know, the Jets could be that team because they do have a little bit of a runway. How about we go back to the Eagles? How about the Eagles being a potential team in the second round? If they're not happy with Jalen,

Jalen's under contract until 2028. Tice Simpson could sit there for two years and learn under Jalen. There's not all that pressure for the first couple of years. You get the Aaron Rogers' Rogers treatment? Wouldn't that be an interesting selection there? I wouldn't love him in the first round, though, really for many teams because of the issues I talked about.

Once you draft a quarterback in the first round, they turn the sand or they turn the, you know, they turn the hourglass over on your job if you're a head coach. And if you don't get them developed within the first couple of years, you usually lose your job. Same thing goes with GMs. Okay. I like Fernando Mendoza more than my sources and I trust my sources. He's having his pro day today.

The video's in. Lance, he looks 10 pounds heavier than he played under. He looks, here's the video. That looks like a franchise quarterback. He is, he looks big, shoulders. I mean, you know I love trunky guys. I'm sorry, but when I watch this videotape, that looks like 245, 6, 4 and a half. I'm sorry.

I mean, that ball comes out, Lance. He is such an easy, like a Justin Hurd, Herbert Thrower. Okay, I think he's an A prospect. I'm in a, you know, people are like, you know, next year he could be number four. I think he's, I like the humility, the gratitude. Where are you on him? I'm with you.

I'm with you. And I trust, I trust you, Colin. I trust you. I look, I think what you see is what you get with Fernando Mendoza. There's no real errors. I hear people talk about it. He's kind of corny. He's this or that.

I like guys who throw touchdowns and don't throw interceptions. and who throw with accuracy and who are 6 foot 5, 236 plus pounds. That's just me. So you can keep your corny this at me. You can keep your cool quarterbacks. I'll keep guys who throw touchdowns and don't give it away in the red zone. It was 39 touchdowns, no interceptions in the red zone over the last two years. I mean, and that's incredible.

And one of those years was a cow. That's pretty impressive. You know, he throws a great accuracy. He throws with great placement. I think he's got a lot of poison confidence. It's a touchdown. You just saw him throw right there. he took punishment because he had to deliver it and put it in the only place that Omar Cooper could rise and get it.

I think he checks a lot of boxes, Colin. He's not the most mobile outside of the pocket. You do have to really put a priority on protecting him as a passer. Yeah. Okay. Cowboys, you have them in your mock draft. We can put it up if you want. You have them taken sunny styles at Ohio State.

I want them to go defense both sides of the ball in the first round. Tell me why you think Sunny Stiles works there. I think he works here easily because he's the best inside linebacker in the draft. The question will be will he fall there. If he gets past five and six, it could be a little bit of a fall for Sunny or it could be a move-up for a team to come get Sunny Stiles. But he works great. Does some of the same things Leighton Vander Esch did when he was there with the Cowboys Only. You know, this is a more explosive version of inside linebacker with Sunny Stiles,

this is a former safety who can come up, rattle your cage, he can rush, he can cover, and he's got tremendous sideline to sideline range. He'd be a great pickup for Dallas, even if they had to trade up to get them. And I'm with you. In the second pick of the first round, you got to say defense.

I mean, you've got to go with either a safety or a corner, probably a corner. Dallas must attack defense. And I would make, now, the good thing is here, Colin, it's a really good year for linebackers, unusually good year for linebackers. So if you don't get one in the first, round the second round should offer your offer one up for you okay i this is a mystery to me and this is not

a criticism but i had ryan day on yesterday i thought a year ago i said i think Caleb downs is my is the best player in college football i'm seeing him 16th in your draft every mock draft has him 12 13 what happened what what i thought he was this i thought he and jeremiah smith last year i'm like i think i'd make him one and two and smiths a freshman one Why is down? You know, I think it's really a matter how are you going to use them, Colin. The way that they used him was kind of an overhang nickel where he played there in a slot, which is a, you know, the star position, which is a really big deal.

Mika Fitzpatrick played there. Brian Branch played there some at Alabama. So, I mean, it's a really important position. The question is, can he translate if he moves back, if he plays on the back end a little bit? How are you going to use them? Is he going to be like, you know, are you going to use them like Ohio State, used them around the line of street? scrimmage as an add-on defender against the run.

How does he, what kind of athlete is he? How fast is he? He's not the biggest guy. He's got good size. He's not very long. His speed, I think, you know, he didn't run. I think most people believe he's probably in the 4-5-4 range, which is fine. I don't have a problem with that at all.

But I think one of the reasons he gets kind of hemmed up a little bit is how are you going to use him? And, you know, when I talk to NFL sources and kind of what I saw on tape is he's a really tough, impactful player, but I do question if he has enough impact to be a top 10 type of pick in the NFL draft. So I would, if I was the Giants, I think they have multiple needs. I like Carnel Tate. I'd move down if I could. They have a right tackle need, a weapon need, a tight end need, a corner need. I think now it may be very hard to trade down because we don't have a lot of quarterbacks. I would trade down if I was the Giants. I'm not a big fan of trading up. I've said before, Lance,

heard this rent a thousand times. I've said, I would trade down every draft ever unless I needed a quarterback and there was a great one. You know, bears. Okay, go get Caleb. Dolphins are fascinating. They got a couple first, a second, four thirds. And I'm like, they need everything.

But with Malik Willis, they need a weapon. Jalen Waddle's gone. I could see Miami. I think they're interesting. I can see them saying here, we're going to. give up three and a five. We've got, we've got firsts here, we've got multiple thirds, and go and getting the best right tackle, Fanoa out of Utah. If Jeremiah Love is open at seven, Carnell Tate's available at eight. I think Miami's my team that could say, guys, we got a lot

of pick here. We need four or five really exceptional players. Tackle, receivers. They don't need a back. They don't need a quarterback. Am I efficient on the dolphins? If I said to you, give me a team that you think could move up, has the Capital, the need, is there one for you? Well, I think the Jets at 16 could move up. You know, Aaron Glenn needs to win now. I think Darren Moosie, the GM, has a little bit more freedom. I think they'll be a little bit more patient with him.

They have a ton of capital, draft capital, as well. You make an interesting point with Miami because I think they're a long way away. I don't think they're in a rush right now to, you know, try to make it happen. But they have so much draft capital, and you do have a massive need at wide receiver. Yeah. I could see them tweak in the draft a little bit. like you talked about. You know, the Giants are an interesting tradeback team because they only have two picks in the first three rounds. And so that's one of the reasons I gave them Carnell Tate

there because if you don't get him there, if you don't get a wide receiver there to go with Jackson, Dart, and with Malik neighbors, I'm not sure there's going to be one available that you like the next time you pick. So they are a tradeback. They are a potential tradeback team. And frankly, they're one of the tougher teams. I think the Titans at four, the Giants at five, the Dolphins at 11, those are some tough teams to try to figure out what they're going to do right now. All right. Let me look at this real quick. Okay, finally.

You're in Houston. I like C.J. Stroud. I like him a lot. But, I mean, he got his hair cut after the season. It was almost like he wanted to wash the whole season away. I saw a picture of him. I'm like, he just, he went with the appearance change. I'm like, is he regressing?

Is it coaching? Is it lack of a run game? If Woody Marks didn't play last year, it felt like he didn't have run support. What's going on with C.J. Stroud is huge. I've heard Rams rumors. Are they still all in on C.J.? I think he throws a beautiful ball, but man, he had some bad picks. Man, the turnovers are concerning.

What is going on with him? I think it's a loss of confidence, really. It manifests itself in the footwork, not always being where it needs to be, which threw off some of his accuracy outside the night. numbers, and this is over the last two years. It's not just last year. It just hasn't been the same since his rookie season. I think a couple of things to keep an eye on. They changed quarterback coach. We'll see. Now, so you know who's not in the building now that was in the building in 2023 and is now in Chicago is Case Keenham? And Case Keenum is a phenomenal set of second

eyes. And it's not a surprise that the Bears re-uped Case Keenum because he's basically like another quarterback in that room. He's like another quarterback coach. And I think CJ really misses having a guy like that in his ear, someone who is a second set of eyes on the field to give him some confidence and really give them a different feel from a quarterback standpoint about what the defense is doing. Nick has Arizona a great job. They've added offensive linemen. There's no excuses there. They've added David Montgomery to go with Woody Marks. Yeah.

I like that move a lot. I like that move. Yeah. I do too. I'm a big David Montgomery fan. Tank Dell is back. Jaden Higgins in year two. a Nico Collins is a very good wide receiver. There's really no excuses.

Their offense coordinators in year two. And CJ, this is year four. If you don't play well, it's an official regression for C.J. Stroud. This is a monster year for him. He will get his fifth year option. That's going to happen. But the extension can't happen, Colin, until you see the same quarterback or a better version that you saw when he was a rookie. Okay, Lance Irline, watch his stuff, NFL.com. You're a busy guy. Congrats. I know I'm late on this. the Texas Radio Hall of Fame. All your success, my man. You do great work.

I appreciate it. I appreciate it. Thanks, Colin. Yeah. His draft previews are great. He gave no bull just gets right to it. I thought it was interesting. Philadelphia.

Ty Simpson. I mean, think about it. What are their needs? I mean, their corners are the best in the game. They've got receivers, tight ends, offensive tackles, Sequin Barkley. What are the Philadelphia Eagles need? Answer, nothing.

more efficiency at quarterback. I mean, there are very few teams I look at, I mean, Rams, they don't really have, after they got Trent McDuffie at corner, you're like, they don't have big knees. Even Seattle, as good as they are, you're like, kind of wish they had a number two receiver. You know what I mean? Like Philadelphia and the Rams, I'm not sure what their needs are.

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I don't know. That's an interesting take. That is something to think about. This guy. Oh, boy. All right. So we're 13 months removed from Jalen Hertz winning Super Bowl MVP, and now we're trying to ship it out of town or draft his replacement.

Well done. Set a new record, coward. Hey, when you have standards, can't rest on your laurels. Joe Burrow has made, when was the last time Burrough made the playoffs? Okay. That's right.

Yeah, but look at his owner. Oh, yeah. Now we're blaming the owner. Jay Mack with the net. I love it. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news.

This is just so damn fun. All right, let's go to the NFL draft. 22 days away. Fernando Mendoza doing his pro day. He's looking, he's juiced up. He was working out with me. Look at him. That's big guys who like to get jacked.

He's swole. Dude, he is. Look at the ball. You can almost see him. chem trail when it comes out of his hand. Honest to God, it looks like Boeing's latest plane. It flies out of his hand. I can see passengers on that jet.

I mean, goodness gracious. Now, here's the problem. Clint Kubiak opened his mouth, and he's talking about whether or not Mendoza's going to start right away. I don't like this at all. Here we go. Oh, I hear this. In a perfect world that he's watching a mature adult, you know,

go and he's running offense and run the team. But, you know, you just, you know, the situation is you might have that player, you might not. You might not have that veteran just showing the way. So he might come in and have to play immediately. But you'd rather him learn before he gets in the game. You don't always get to pick. It just doesn't work out the exact way you want it to. But at the end of the day, you want to make sure that you're bringing in an individual drafting a guy that, you know, is mature enough to handle some adversity,

whether it's him starting the first game or him starting the first game or two. What bothers you about that? What are we doing? I mean, it's not like he's a young guy who got one year starting like Ty Simpson. How many years since he started in college? He started Cal, started Indiana. Kubiak used the word mature. I mean, you could argue Mendoza's the most mature quarterback to end of the league in years.

Here's my take on Mendoza. They're going to draft him. He's going to go to camp, and it's going to be like Andrew Luck. they're going to go, holy crap. He is better than we thought and we liked him. I think he's going to blow people away. Yeah. I cannot tell you.

What are they compared to, Gino Smith? Who was the other guy, the guy from Purdue who was there for a minute? He was terrible. I mean, listen, this whole, like, Patrick Mahomes sat, Aaron Rogers sat. They sat behind quarterbacks who were studs. Alex Smith was the number one pick. Went to the playoffs. Britt Farv needs no introduction.

Like, this is not that. The Raiders need to start him from the jump. I don't even like that stat we put up. Quarterback, rookie quarterback starting are 1 in 10. Well, yeah, because they're going to crap teams. Right? Like, most of those are rookie quarterbacks going to awful teams who are drafting high. Mendoza is just built different.

I just don't like this at all. All right. Jay Mack. Jay Mack with the news. Oh, you're not done yet. My bad. My bad. And thanks for time.

We can wrap it up. I mean, my lunch did just arrive. It's my bad. You have another one. My bad. We actually got two more. We are talking about the Cleveland Browns. Do you want to talk about it or no?

Yes, of course. We can do Browns action if you want. I know it's not very exciting. But Todd Munkin is talking about his quarterback room, and it sounds like Dylan Gabriel, he's not doing the things you need to do to get back into position to start. Here he is.

They evenly dispersed, but we'll definitely disperse them to give ourselves a chance to at least evaluate who we have on the roster, whoever that might be as we go through the off-season. Well, it's too early. to really evaluate him other than it's been great that he's been in the building. It's refreshing to see a player that recognizes where he's at and where he wants to get to.

And Gabriel hasn't been in the building? As far as I know he has not, I have not seen him going yet. Deshaun was in early when I got the job, so I got a chance to sit down with him. That doesn't sound great. Something's going on there. Dylan Gabriel, what, is he not showing up? Doesn't seem like him. Maybe they're trading him.

That's interesting. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, listen, and then you've got the owner coming out saying, you're Deshaun Watson. Oh my gosh, he has a decent chance to be the starter. I will say this. I like my owners talking less. Stephansky like Dylan Gabriel.

Dylan Gabriel like Stefansky. Atlanta, perhaps? Third stringer. We don't know if Pennix is healthy. Just collect. They need all the left-handed quarterbacks in Atlanta, basically. Final story, Colin. Let's go to Steph Curry.

He's been out since. January 30th with a right knee injury. And Steve Kirk keeps thinking that he's going to return soon. Apparently, Curry had his first full practice yesterday, and he may show up Sunday against the Rockets. Warriors are 10th in the West. They will face almost certainly Portland in the play-in game. The league without Steph Curry just, I mean, it's not as amazing.

Luckily, Luke has been on fire. Wembe Nyama is awesome. But I miss Steph Curry. You know, every night this guy's just cooking everybody. A real great ambassador for the league. It really, when you think about Steph or Janus, when you think about these guys, doesn't it make LeBron seem more amazing? Like, Steph is beat up this year.

He's had injuries, and he's younger than LeBron, and Janus has had multiple injuries. He's much younger than LeBron. And it's just, it is remarkable to think about LeBron James. He just, he had about a two-year stretch in L.A. where he was getting dinged up. It felt like a couple of years, year and a half, he was kind of getting dinged up. When I watch all these older NBA players, I mean, obviously LeBron does not have the jet fuel. It's not going to play 42 minutes a night, back to back like that. But it just, it goes, and it's a very young league now.

I mean, go to the team. Thunder's young, Spurs young. Even Yokic this year got hurt. Like, it's just, it's just incredible that LeBron never gets banged up. To me, it's remarkable. Kevin Durant gets banged up. Kauai Leonard gets banged up. Damien Lillard got old, very fast.

Somehow, LeBron just stays healthy. LeBron, think about this. This number's crazy. Del Curry's on the show tomorrow. LeBron has played 292 playoff games in his career. So he has played, think about this. Three and a half seasons of playoff games. And those games, you play more minutes,

You guard better players are much more intense. Wait, it means he's working on like season 25 right now when you add the playoff game. That's absurd. She's just crazy. We're never, I mean, that's why when they don't play Wemby all the minutes, I think the spurs are smart. It's not about Wemby's minutes. It's about his impact. And you're saying, I mean, anybody that's 7'4, we have a history in the NBA of like big guys,

getting banged up, clotting. Like, it's stuff you have to worry about. So I don't care what Wemby plays. Wemby averaged 28 minutes a game, but when he's on the floor, they're unstoppable. I don't have a problem. I mean, obviously, if you got to the finals or the Western Conference finals,

you're going to push him physically as much as you can. But, I mean, I just, every time I hear about an old guy getting hurt or a young guy getting hurt, I'm like, LeBronlick just is, just, it's just Iron Man. It's incredible. Are you done now?

Let's see here. Yeah, yeah, we're good. I just, I don't know why I jumped the gun on. And thanks for stopping by. The Hurd-Ly News. You know, I just get very frenetic on this show. I got things to talk about. Just scooting guys out of the way.

I don't even need my lead blocker. Just let me get the hole and I'll burst right through it. Hold on. Yeah, you know what it was? The Fernando Mendoza Pro Day threw me off. so giddy. I can't even see straight. This may be the best

I've ever seen a quarterback look in shorts and a t-shirt. It's like a superhero. Just, I mean, I'm sorry, man. That is what a franchise quarterback looks like. Sorry for the radio audience. I apologize. Just, I mean, just big effortless

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Breaking down the plays, the controversies, and the stories behind the headlines. We go straight to the source, the athletes themselves, their locker room stories, their reactions, the stuff nobody gets to hear. The laughs, the drama, the triumphs, the moments that never make the highlight real. From viral moments to historic games, from buzzer beaters to controversial calls, we break it down, give you context and ask the questions everybody wants answered. Sports Slice brings you closer to the action with stories told by the people who live them. Listen to Sports Slice on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Sliced Life 12 in the TikTok podcast network on TikTok. All right, big drama today was Jeremy Fowler, ESPN came out, 12 sources on things are not great in Philadelphia.

They have been running through coordinators. We've talked about this ad nauseum for years, is that it's a very offensive coordinator-dependent franchise. is that when Nick Seriani called the plays, it was a mess. He gave him to Shane Steichen. It was good. Stuyken leaves. It's a mess.

Hire a new coordinator, Kellen Moore. It works. He leaves. It's a mess. So, you know, Mahomes, Hertz, you know,

certain guys, Herbert, Mahomes, Alan, aren't as coordinator dependent. Jalen Hertz is in the story today is he's hard to coach. And he's frustrating people in the building. And, you know, Philadelphia is insanely aggressive with acquisitions, trades, moving off a coach that wins a Super Bowl against Belichick or a quarterback who did.

Here is Nick Wright earlier on the drama, the story with Jalen Hertz and Philly. One of the reasons A.J. Brown in consecutive seasons could light that locker room on fire and remain popular. amongst his teammates is because I think guys were like, well, somebody's got to say it. I'm glad AJ will take the hit for us. You can never ask question, can you win with Jalen Hertz? They did win. And they at one point won like 21 out of his 22 starts. You need a specific type of team to have peak success with Jalen.

He had that. I don't know that they have it anymore. And what's really interesting, I mean, it's almost a perfect comp with Russell Wilson. Russell had the transfer in college. Neither went first round because of size, both very productive in college. Both very good at the podium, never get in trouble, say the right stuff. Both struggle sitting in the pocket because of size, both very elusive, both have great success early in their career, in their prime, get a lot of credit for it. Both can be a little, as the kids say, cringe at the podium.

You know, let it ride. Go Hawks. Doesn't bother me, but it bothers a lot of people. There have been the same criticisms of Jalen Hertz. It's a little inauthentic, fair or not, you hear it. And then a lot of success, big contract, and some resentment in the room. I mean, I've said this before. It may not be fair, and people have picked on Russell Wilson,

but it is interesting that when he got married, there weren't a lot of teammates there. A lot of guys called him out. He and Pete Carroll will say nice things publicly, but not ideal. It's a lot of the same stuff with Jalen Hertz. And, you know, for the record, there are qualities about both I really, really like.

They're grownups, they're adults. They're very optimistic. They're very positive. They don't start fires. But you hear things in the locker room with Russell. You hear things in the locker room with Jalen Hurts. and these are teammates and respected reporters, and I heard last August,

and I was surprised when I heard it. It was like, he's not that popular in the locker room. And I was like, all right. Yeah, I was surprised when I heard about Russell Wilson. He seemed like a nice guy. I don't get it. Some guys play in the locker room, some don't. Here's Lance Zerline earlier on maybe the Philadelphia Eagles

are looking at Ty Simpson in the draft. How about the Eagles being a potential team in the second round? If they're not happy with Jalen, Jalen's under contract until 2028. Ty Simpson could sit there for two years and learn under Jalen. There's not all that pressure for the first couple of years. You get the Aaron Rogers treatment. Wouldn't that be an interesting selection there? I wouldn't love him in the first round, though, really for many teams because of the issues I talked about.

All right. I know I've been a little gaga on Fernando Mendoza, and I don't think pro days mean anything. But, you know how sometimes somebody walks into a room and you're like, wow, that's impressive. You've been working out, bro. Or, oh, you get your haircut. Or I'm just telling you, when this image goes on the screen, he looks bigger. And we'll find out the stories. He looks a little bigger, a little thicker than he did at college.

And I never thought the athletic has an NFL reporter there and I'm following on the screen what my staff, because they can read it during the show. Jeff Howe, I know Jeff Howe, quote, Fernando Bendoza had an impressively clean throwing session, completed 53 of 56 passes, two drops, through 56 passes in 20 minutes,

two very quick breaks, really impressive workout. So basically, one in completion. 53 of 56 with two drops. My guys like him. I love him. His hair even looks like a franchise quarterback. I'm sorry. It is interesting that, you know, the knock on him is, you know, he's a little robotic.

That's what they said about Justin Herbert. And Herbert, every GM I talk to loves Herbert. is that here's the upside to being a little predictable and a little robotic. I know you're not going to be a guy that just takes off. Think about the psychology of it. If you're not a great athlete, Mendoza, Matt Ryan, Jared Goff, Matt Stafford's a great athlete, but not a mover. What does it force you to do, Peyton Manning? Be better in the pocket.

Right? Like the reality of life, kids figured out very quickly. Let's say you're a seven-year-old boy, eight-year-old boy, nine-year-old boy, 10-year-old boy, and the girls make fun of you. Don't you think it's more likely? You're going to math, science. You're not going to go, you're not, you're not. I mean, I always said, you want to find an unhappy guy. It's not about the parents.

It's about how girls treat him in high school and college. Is that women dictate a lot of men's happiness. And I think when you're a young man, 17, 18, 19, 20, how people treat you figure things out on the fly, is that, hey, I'm social, I'm awkward. I knew very early. I was awkward socially. I'm just awkward. I don't like going to parties.

But some people are very social and handsome and this and that. Mendoza's smart. He knows the textbook to be great is Tom Brady. Obsessive, grateful, humble, prepared. There's a story came out the other day. He's already memorizing the Raiders playbook. And I think, I mean, Peyton Manning figured out very early with his brothers. He was less athletic than his dad.

He was less athletic than this guy. Payton Manning figured out very quickly. I'm going to win with preparation. I mean, I think guys know it. I also think if you're Josh Allen and you're just running over people in high school and it's not that you don't do film study, but you may not grind the tape quite as much as Jared Goff, who knows without the ability. to make quick reads,

Jared Goff's going to get hit. And so I think, I'm just going to speak for men. We figure out at very quick ages where we fit in life if we pay attention. Are we social? Are we not? Are we athletic?

I mean, I remember the first time I went to college and played basketball with Division I like top players. One practice. I was like, yep. Well, I'm going to be a broadcaster. Well, we all change, Colin. and you grow and develop and everything.

I mean, I don't want to go there. Back to your Mendoza point on him as a quarterback looking great and shorts and a T-shirt. If some people out there needed that film, oh, well, that's the guy. That's my Raiders quarterback. I think that's an issue. Go put on his tape against Penn State, that game-winning drive.

Go watch the tape against Alabama carving them up. Or, I don't know, any drive against Miami in the second half. Like, I've felt this way about Mendoza for a while. He's slam dunk number one. All these guys on the fence. Well, I don't know. Well, that's an easy one. That's goofy.

Nobody disputes that. My question is, I'm not saying he's Andrew Locke, but what if he's a lot closer than people think? Well, then the Raiders will be pretty good next year. The feeling is his comp is Matt Ryan. He is bigger, thicker, better arm, stronger than Matt Ryan. And Matt Ryan coming out was pretty damn good coming out of a car. And I'm saying this kid's a bigger, thick. That's my take.

He's better than Matt Ryan coming out. Right. I don't hate it. I mean, and you use the word trunky like six times today. So are you going to go hug a tree like after this show? Sam Darnal, Super Bowl champ, Trunkie. Twitchy. Hey guys, it's us.

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Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and Friends on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Last night, a blown call changed a game. This morning, the internet lost its mind, and nobody's telling you exactly what happened. That's where Sports Slice comes in. I'm Timbo, and every episode, we're cutting through the noise, breaking down the biggest moments in sports and giving you the real story behind the headlines. Going straight to the source, the athletes themselves.

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