The Herd with Colin Cowherd - THE HERD - Hour 3 - The AFC West is a powerhouse, the Broncos and Bo Nix will improve, Mark Schlereth

Episode Date: August 19, 2025

Colin talks to 3-time Super Bowl champion Mark Schlereth about the Broncos and why they expect to contend in the AFC in year 2 with QB Bo NixSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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noon Pacific. Find your local station for the herd at Fox SportsRedio.com or stream us live every day on the iHeart Radio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. So there's been sort of widespread agreement that one of the best camps was the Denver Broncos. And one of the things that's interesting to me, they not only went out and acquired some new players, but really high-end players. Funga is a Pro Bowl safety of healthy. Greenlaw is a Pro Bowl linebacker of healthy.

Evan Ingram should be a perfect fit with Sean Payton. And this was a team that led the NFL in Sacks. and nobody knows the Broncos like Mark Schler, three times. Super Bowl chants multiple times. Pro Bowl with Broncos for several years. Listen, I thought about this driving in today. I thought, you know, if you're Sean Payton, you could say, you know, I'm trying to get my guys ramped up, this young football team.

I want them to believe in themselves, but it's not that young. Garrett Bowles isn't young. Cortland Sutton's not young. Greenlaw's not young. They got plenty of older players here. So I really do believe that Sean Payton believe. this is an excellent top-to-bottom roster. What's impressed you most with the two years of Sean Pate?

What has he done that you look at and go, man, that was fast. I didn't think they'd do that. What would that be? Yeah, well, I think, one, he doesn't care what you think, Colin. You didn't care what I think. He knows what he wants. and he was able to create exactly what he wanted. One of the things the big narratives in Colorado was,

well, we should keep Russell Wilson because you can't afford that cap hit. Like you'll never be able to build a football team. Sean Payton does not care. He's like, that's not the direction of this franchise. That's not where I want to go. We can't win with that guy playing quarterback. And I don't care if we incur a huge, huge, huge.

cap hit. We're going to get the right guys in this franchise. I've talked to Sean during training camp. I've talked to Greg Penner, the owner. And the difference between last year and this year was last year we hope we could win. This year we know we can win. And one of the big moves we made, even if it was a popular player, we got red of popular players that work the right guys. Guys that want to be here, guys that want to contribute, guys that want to work hard guys that want to sacrifice for one another. That's how we're building this roster. And when you start looking at this roster, top to bottom,

and I've been at both scrimmages, you know, I've been at the scrimmages, they scrimmage San Francisco. I wasn't out in San Francisco, but I was at the team scrimmage between Arizona. The difference between the Broncos, second and third teamers in Arizona, second and third teamers, you can see the level of commitment they have made and the level of talent that they have in their backup players. So you can have an injury or two along that football team, and they're still going to be able to perform

because they've got a very, very deep football team. Well, I've been saying this for years is offensive coaches are better rebuilding O-lines. PFF has their O-line as second best in the league. Dan Campbell's an offensive coach. He's got a great O-line. Sean McVeigh has rebooted his offensive line multiple times. Andy Reed, this will be his third rebuild.

They're interesting because the two Super Bowls, Kansas City's got waxed in. They couldn't protect Mahomes. They went and got Josh Simmons. He was an Ohio State kid. Injuries. You tell me, like if he's not good against Denver and their pass rush, Kansas City's in trouble. What do you make? I think this is a really, you know, end of the first.

round mark is no man's land in the draft nobody wants to be there got to pay a first round price it's a second round player what do you make of josh simmons the buck guy now a chief at left tackle is it a problem or not he was my favorite player coming out in the draft wow i studied him i studied him and that dude dispensed justice you talk about feet you talk about hands you Like, I just was like, this was tie on the doorknob. Honey, don't come in here. I'm watching Josh Simmons film. Like, it was that good.

And then he tore his Patel attendant. I think it was around week nine or whatever. I think the Kansas City Chiefs possibly got the steel of the draft. I think that guy's a top 10 player that they got at 31. He is that good. Athletically gifted. But beyond that, man, one of the things you realize when you study film coming out of college is most of these guys don't have nuance, especially to play offensive line. And the game,

it's just different. The college game is different. Most guys don't know how to use their hands, and most guys ultimately don't have great technique because they don't need it. And I watched him, I thought physically he was dominant. I thought he struck guys with his hands, which don't happen very often. And his feet, man, it was like a symphony watching his feet move. When I think of offensive line playing. I always had this kind of symphony in my own head. What I want on my feet to sound like, right? I'm coming off the ball. It's 19 handoff. I want to get my second step down. My feet sounded like, that's what they sounded like, right? And I want to have that in my head or if it's a pass set, what my feet should sound like on a wide three technique or a four-eye

technique versus a three technique or a two technique. Like I want to know exactly what that sounded like in my head. And when I watch this guy play, he's got that kind of footwork as a college player. Most college players don't. I loved him. I mean, I absolutely loved him. And if that dude's healthy, I'm telling you what, they got the steal of the draft. So you know this with John Elway. He had a very good coach in Dan Reeves, but it was a better coach in Mike Shanahan, and a lot of it was just fit. Nobody doubted that Dan Reeves could coach. A lot of it's fit in personality. You talked about Sean Payton Russell Wilson. Personality, style, don't fit.

I've argued, and you see this sometimes where the artist marries the accountant, and it works. You know, like, and sometimes it doesn't. And I look at Ben Johnson, who I think is more, a little bit more like Kyle Shanahan, run my damn play, run my play. And then there's Caleb Williams, who I think has a little Brett Farr, which is sometimes in chaos, he's better, but you can't live that way in the NFL. well. And I've said this. I don't think it's a perfect marriage, but I do think it can work

if Caleb sort of engulfs the offense. I mean, we've heard it practice, bad days, good days, getting better. But not every, I mean, Dan Reeves and Elway both great. It didn't really fit. What do you make of Ben Johnson and Caleb Williams? I think it's an imperfect marriage, but I do think it could work. Yeah, I'm with you, Colin. I think one of the big things coming out of college when I studied Caleb Williams is I thought there was too much improvisation. I thought there was too much playing off schedule. And I think you saw that last year. I've said this many times, taking sacks into quarterback-driven statistic.

He took 68 sacks last year. That's a lot on the quarterback. Most sacks really become play caller and quarterback more than they become offensive line. The first thing, and I've talked to Ben Johnson this offseason, the first thing that Ben Johnson did was, hey, let's reassess what we're doing up front, let's go out and get ourselves some offensive linemen that can play. I think that's big.

But then it becomes play calling. And one of the things you don't see or you don't hear a lot when we talk about Ben Johnson is the way he's committed to run on the football. I'm doing a game, Detroit game a year ago, and I'm thinking, man, this guy, like he's got to be the number one play caller in football from the standpoint of second long and third and long run plays. And sure enough, he's right there in the top two or three in football. What he does is he's going to run the ball, create his play action, take some stress and pressure off the quarterback.

The thing that Caleb Williams needs to learn is he needs to learn what I call the 70-30 rule. 70% of the time, you need to run the play. We need to be on schedule. When things do break down, then you have to be able to improvise and make a play. That's 30% of the time it does break down, then go make a play for us. But if you live, and this is, to me, Kyler's problem in Arizona, Kyler Murray's problem in Arizona, is you want to play on a 50-50 kind of schedule. 50% of the time I want to be free will and make big plays because it's really,

it looks good, and I'm excited. me energy. But ultimately for an offense, you may make two or three big plays, but what you're going to do is you're going to fall to disaster three or four times, and you end up not winning the game, but losing it based on that stuff. So for me, run the play, improvise when only necessary. And I think the run game, the trick plays, all the things that Ben Johnson does, that creates excitement and fluidity in your offense, I believe that's. where he's great. So I think he'll get that eye in from Caleb Williams.

They'll eliminate some of those sack issues that really were a lot of Caleb Williams' problems, not just the offensive line. One more herd? The herd streams 24 hours a day, seven days a week within the I-Hard Radio app. Search Herd to listen live or on demand whenever you'd like. He's by Carmen. I'm Dan Byrd. We have a fantasy football podcast called I Want Your Flex.

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What's the news, huge news? We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. First people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts. We're starting a trend.

But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down?

Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast. We could call in and say, hey Jonas, and then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy, not quite.

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exhausted this series because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup, he has to really guard guys like Nas Reid. He has to guard Julius Randall. And then he has to give us everything he gives us on the night-to-night basis on offense. And when IT's friends stop by, like Quentin Richard We dive into some playoff history too. Steve Nash will get that thing. That man, hell get to fly. He running up the court, licking his fingers while he got the ball.

Like, after you go through a training camp with that, Isaiah, you figure it out real quick. Get your ass up and down the court, and you're going to get the ball. So listen to Point Game on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Agency, the ability to know that we're the experts in our own body. On the podcast, cultivating her space,

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Finally, you played for Washington for several years. I don't love the Terry McClurens situation at all because I think Terry's such a pro. You've done their games before. He's such a productive, grown-up, adult pro at a position sometimes where you get big personality. I think they could be as good as last year but not make the NFC championship

because the NFC's better. What is your kind of forecast for the commanders that have suddenly become a really fun team to watch? Yeah, they're a really good team. obviously, Dayton Daniels is incredible. Dan Quinn has done a phenomenal job out there of reestablishing the culture there.

That was, when I played there for Joe Gibbs, it was a crown jewel. And they went through, you know, they went through years in the desert, obviously. And they're back now. Terry McLauran is one of those guys that you mentioned. Great guy in the community. Just a great, great teammate,

who is unbelievably productive. And when I travel around the league and I've done a bunch of Washington games, when you talk to coordinators around the league, they'll tell you, hey, our number one threat is McCorm. Like that dude just, that dude is, it doesn't matter who the quarterback is. That dude is set for 11,200, 1,200 yards and a bunch of touchdowns. He just, he just a difference maker on the offensive side of the ball. So I believe they're going to get that deal done.

He belongs in Washington. He is one of those guys to me that he has gone through that. that dry desert storm, if you will. He's one of the guys that you want to see have some success with the team that drafted him, and he's got that opportunity. Now, I hope they find common ground to pay him because he belongs to me as a Washington commander. By the way, you're packing up and leaving New York.

What was your favorite little place when you lived in New York and your wife was there? What was your favorite place? Because when I spend time in New York, I would always stay within like a six-block area, and I'd find my places. What was your place in New York? said, hey, Mark, let's go to lunch. Where would it be in New York? Oh, right down the street. I don't even know what the name of the restaurant is. I just know where it's at. It's right, like literally down the block, a little bolognese place that we absolutely love.

I know that I know Samba and Ada are, you know, the waitress and the hostess, and they are awesome. And we always sit in their section, and we go there probably three times a week. and they're so gracious and so kind, and the food is absolutely, like I said, hole in a wall, absolutely phenomenal. And I don't know about you, calm, but I'm this way with movies. If, like, if I watch a movie that I like,

you know, my wife will go, let's find a movie. And she goes, you've seen this six times. I go, I know, I'm not going to be disappointed. I love this movie, right? And if I fall asleep, like, if I fall asleep, I can wake up, you know, 20 minutes later, you go, oh, this is a great part. Let's get dialed in, right?

And it drives her crazy. But on the same way when it comes to restaurants, if I go to a place and I order a meal and I love that meal, I'll never order anything else off the menu. I won't go, let me see what else is on the menu. I go, no, I love the Bolognese. Guess what I'm having Bolognais. I'm having Bolognais again. Yeah, now we talked about that earlier today. Mark Schlarith, as always, buddy, it's great seeing you, checking in with you.

Yeah, my pleasure, call him, take care, buddy. All right. It's so ironic that I brought that up 30 minutes ago. my wife will roll her eyes when I are a chicken farm. And then during the break, what did you say to me, John Middlough? Maria treats a menu like a draft. She tries to pick all these different flavors, all these different things. I pick the same thing.

Every single place I go to, I have the same order. It's got to be a guy brain. It definitely is. 100%. I'm the same way with movies. We don't need to outthink the room here. Give me the steak. I think I've seen casino.

I've seen good friends. fellas, Silence of the Lambs, what's the one I'm thinking of, Shawshank Redemption, Oceans 11, there's about seven, eight movies, some Spielberg stuff, if it's on, I'm like, I got 45 minutes to kill. I got me no hurry to do anything. I'm just going to sit here.

By the way, Spielberg's got a new UFO movie coming out. You know what, when you, this happens to me maybe once every other year, like the second top gun was coming out. I'm like, oh, I can't wait. Or a new mission impossible. or Oppenheimer was like I literally went to the theater the first day I could and that's not usually my vibe. Spielberg's got a UFO movie coming up and I'm telling you right now it is supposed to be incredible. I don't do aliens.

Well, I hope I never confront one but I want to be prepared. I'm going to spillberg's going to tell me what to do how to react. John with the news. No, no, no, no, turn on the news. This is the herd-life-lawful. news. Okay, Drake May, he had a solid, solid rookie season, starting 12 games, throwing 2200 yards, scored 17 total touchdowns, but entering year two, May has a new offensive coordinator, a familiar face in Foxborough, and a former Patriot, Jason McCordy, broke down the duo's

on-field relationship, saying that McDaniels is talking to May as much as possible. McCordy also added that May has gained McDaniels trust, and the OC is heavily communicating with him pre-snap. Do you believe that Drake May will flourish under Josh? I do because Josh has a history of, you know, dealing with high-performing, high-standard quarterbacks. And I think if you look at Drake May's family, comes from an athletic family. Basketball players, right?

Yeah, and I think he was one of the younger kids. You know, older brothers are great for a young athlete. Get picked on a little bit, you know. You have to play against older kids, your brothers, and their friends. And I think that's the vibe, if I recall. I may be wrong on that, but I think Drake May comes from a hyper athletic family. I think he's a very athletic person. I think like Justin Herbert's comp, he doesn't want a lot of publicity.

He just, he loves sports, he wants to play. And Brables, again, a guy that has proven he can build an offensive line in a run game. And, you know, they haven't had a great wide receiver since Randy Moss in terms of down the field wide receiver. Edelman was obviously tremendous. So, you know, it's, they've won a certain. way over the last 20 years and I think Brable and Drake May will provide a lot of what Brady and Belichick did. No nonsense. Committed, physical, relentless, always prepared, really efficient. I think he checks those boxes. You know, I know you have and a lot of people have been critical

of the Patriots with Belichick's drafting over the last couple of years once Brady left. You could argue they really fell apart when Josh went to Vegas. I looked it up when Schlerath was talking. Last year they averaged 17 points. The year before with Bill and Patricia, they average 13 points. Their offense, the last couple of years, has been anemic. And the one thing, because you look at the Patriots too deep on offense, it's not great. Randy Moss, Gronk, Edelman, those guys aren't

walking through the door. But Josh is pretty good at working with random guys. And obviously, you know, the rookie running back is going to be highly touted. But I could see a couple, like, guys that aren't household names becoming pretty good players. Is that kid, Kyle Williams from Washington State? Yeah.

That's the one I think, you know, they may have gotten steal of the draft with Trayvon Henderson in the second round. They may have gotten one of the steals in the draft in the third round. If he pans out, but as a college player, he was a jump off the TV screen player at Washington State. Totally agree. Sticking with the AFCs, the Bills have a ton of expectations this season after getting knocked out by the Chiefs in the title game. And with Josh Allen coming off his first MVP award, ever since Joe Brady took over, Josh

and the bill's offense has soared. Allen posted the lowest interception rate of his career. One thing Brady doesn't want Alan to worry about is keeping track of which receivers are getting how many touches. So, Colin, do you believe this will help the bill's offense be even better this season? I think once you're a veteran quarterback, you can throw wherever you want. I mean, I think there was no question. When you and I were watching the Patriots in their run, older Tom, on third down, you knew it was going to Gronker Edelman. there was no question.

I think even the all-time great quarterbacks have comfort zones. I mean, what's the first thing Tom did when he went to Tampa? Drunk. I need my safety valve. So once you're an older veteran quarterback, I mean, you know who Mahomes is looking for in third down in playoff games. Like I, you throw to whoever you want. I don't have. Josh doesn't need coaching and that.

Once the ball is snapped, I trust Josh Allen. I think Josh and I would put Lamar in this two are two of the better quarterbacks I've ever seen. Same. and they've just ran into Mahomes. I mean, Phil was great. He ran into Tiger a lot. Right? So eventually, one of these two guys is going to get them. The Ravens a couple years ago had that home playoff game, you know, the championship game at home, Chiefs got them.

To me, the bills, watching hard knocks, and again, the highlight packages, they look pretty good. I mean, I could see the bills competing for the number one scene. We know this is the last year in that old stadium. Jets could be a mess. Miami's been wobbly, culture issues, and New England still, they're not necessarily in a total rebuild but they got and they may have solved their issues

and free agency in the draft but they're a young team in a lot of areas I would say it would be stunning if the bills didn't go five and one in the division right six no potentially the athletic one of our favorite sites just put out their top 25 and under in the NFL

and Jamar Chase Jalen Carter and Jaden Daniels lead the way here's the top 10 we got Jamar Chase Jalen Carter Jaden Daniels Aidan Hutchson Brock Bowers Bauer's Patrick Stratin Hennett Hoseul C.J. Stroud, Kyle Hamilton, and Amin-Ross St. Brown, it's a little shocking.

I thought he was like 30 years old. I mean, pretty good list. I noticed one thing, Colin. The Texans and the Lions both have three players on this list. And the Texans, their quarterback, their pass rusher, and their stark corner. Stingley, to me, you know, he's not. I don't want to compare him to like Dionne Sanders or Derel Revis. But I think in the next couple years he can establish himself as one of the better defensive players.

Number 11 better be Jared Burs. Yeah. Yeah. He is going to be, last year there were times you were like, whoa, Jared versus Pass Rush or Rams is going to explode this year. Well, I got a guy for you, Bejan Robinson, and I was talking to a buddy in Arizona who coached against him in high school. And this guy's been coaching forever. He said he's the best high school player I've ever seen. The hype at Texas, the hype when he got drafted.

I think the hype, he needs to start equaling. I got to see it. He's a really talented player, but some of these other. I mean, Jalen Carter was arguably one of the best players in the NFL for the team that won the Super Bowl. I mean, it looks like a Hall of Fame. Yeah, I mean, if you took Chris Jones out, I mean, I think most GMs would take Jalen Carter today as your interior defensive lineman. I think Malik Neighbors has a chance to be like Jamar Chase as a talent.

He's just got to stay on the field. Yeah, he gets banged up. He's banged up again. He gets banged up a lot. Jamar Chase is pretty good. Pretty good player. These are, yeah, it is Amarron St. Brown must have graduated high school at 14. Because I swear to God, he's been in the league six years.

I thought that same thing. I honestly, I thought he was 32 years old. John Middletkoff with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Heard Line News. You had three Detroit Lions on that list. What have we said about the Lion's success?

Look upstairs. Three Lions in the top ten. Develop. And also, they have a young safety. Brian Branch. He could be top 15. He's a good player. I mean, so they could have four of the top 15 guys.

That tells you, everybody looking at Detroit and Dan Campbell it, it's upstairs. They got the right group. They have aced. This year they went heavy on interior offensive linemen, which they had to, so they addressed an absolute need. It wasn't a great draft,

so we'll see how that pans out. Doesn't Jared Goff, I mean, for a little bit of an older guy, have a young vibe, maybe it's the California in him? He just feels like a younger guy. Very chill. Not much stress in his life. Yeah.

Mark Schler has stopped by today. Albert Breer had really interesting comments on Caleb Williams. We'll wrap it up next. It's the hurt. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the IHeart Radio app. Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers, and guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, new? Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas. We invented a podcast?

Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to a... We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band. Before Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember it going down?

Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts,

or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL, late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smigel and Friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel help an a cappella band with their between songs banter.

Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and friends on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas. And I'm C.J. Toledano, and our podcast Point Game is about defying the odds. Like LeBron heading into the playoffs without Luca and Austin Reed.

And finding ways to win no matter what. He's the smartest player to ever play the game. His IQ is at a level that we've never seen before. And he knows without Luca and Austin Reeves, I got to manipulate the game. We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs. I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup,

he has to really guard guys like Nas Reid. He has to guard Julius Randall. And then he has to give us everything he gives us on the night-to-night basis on offense. And when IT's friends stop by, like Quentin Richardson, we dive into some playoff history too. Steve Nash will get that thing. That man, hell get the flying.

He running up the court, licking his fingers why he got the ball. Like, after you go through a training camp with that, Isaiah, you figure it out real quick. Get your ass up and down the court, and you're going to get the ball. So listen to Point Game on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Agency, the ability to know that we're the experts in our own body. On the podcast, cultivating her space, Dr. Dom and Terry Lulman, create a space where black women can show up fully and be heard. I wholeheartedly think, you know, you hit 30.

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and then you went down to the circus in Chicago, and on the day he watched the Bears, he had thoughts about Caleb Williams. What Ben Johnson and his staff were trying to do with Caleb was, let's feed him through a fire hose in the spring and then early in training camp, and let's see what he can handle, and let's see what he's good at, and let's see what he's not good at, and let's see how he learns. Let's see how he takes those early lumps and is able to compartmental. mentalize them. And then over the course of camp, the hope was that they would get a more resilient

player who's playing faster. And as coaches, they would get a better idea of what he was best at so they could build an offense based on that. So remember, it's not always easy initially. Tom Brady and Bruce Ariens through 12 weeks were seven and five and were scuffing. And then they had a buy week and Brady's like, I'm going to do it my way. And he and Bruce Ariens after the Super Bowl, you know, later had a little falling out. But Brady, encyclopedic Brady and Bruce Ariens, stylistically, you know, Ariens wanted to go deep down the field more in his career. And Tom's like, now I want to pick up first downs, move the chains, protect the defense, don't want to get

hit. That was Tom style. And through 12 weeks, remember that disaster they had against the Bears on Thursday night football, Brady screaming at everybody. So like, Ariens and Brady won a Super Bowl. It was not a perfect fit. Terry Bradshaw and Chuck no we're not we're not a perfect fit uh and then you get ekeman and jimmy johnson akeman did exactly what jimmy wanted toughness leadership accurate big plays some i think bow nix and sean peyton feel like that's exactly what he wanted a a younger breeze with excellent feet can move but will run his play so i you know it doesn't have to be perfect the day that albert rear went there he said it was awful um you you very you know again elway had dan reeves dan

could coach. Elway was better with Shanahan. Kyle Shanahan, frankly, always wanted Kirk cousins because he would run his play. So, you know, Goff's first six games under Ben Johnson, he had a 90 passer rating. That's it. 90

passer rating is B in the NFL, especially in 2025. That's just kind of a B. And then Goff grew into Ben Johnson's offense. And I do think it is sometimes I mean, you want a gifted quarterback. Sometimes it's harder.

I don't care if you're a music teacher. It is harder with more talented students. They want to be driven hard, but they, you know, Caleb's got some stuff, some magic, and it works. Lamar, you know, it took years. Year three, finally you're like, okay, he can throw from the pocket now. So sometimes you have to convince players that this is better than that, but when that's been successful in high school and college,

it's hard to talk him off that style. So the next 11 games for golf, after struggling in the first six games with Ben Johnson, the next 11 games, this passer rating was like 104. So it just takes a while. I think Ben demands a lot. Ben is going to be tough on Caleb, and that early schedules a little bit of everything.

They get the Vikings at home winnable game. Detroit, I think, with new coordinators, will be vulnerable early. I mean, then they get the Cowboys at home, Raiders by Saints. There's some winnable games early. But you could see if the Minnesota knocked him off early and Caleb struggled against Brian Flores, you could see this thing going sideways very quickly because of the end of the schedule, Packers, at the Niners, Lions, Packers before that at the Eagles.

There's a lot of teams vying for playoff position from about week 13 on. That schedule is rough. So you've got to make some hay early if you're the Chicago. Bears. I had my herd hierarchy today, my top 10 teams in the NFL. You guys can put it up there. I think Philadelphia has to be your number one. And then after that, I think I would like, you know, I think I would like the commanders and Rams higher if there weren't a Matt Stafford Terry McLaurin situation. I do think the Lions will be good, not special. I don't think it's a diss to the Chiefs putting the Broncos ahead of them. Right now, I think Denver's got a

much better offensive line and a better consistent pass rush. Is anybody missing, John, when you look at that? I'm going to sound like Nick Wright here, but the Chiefs, I mean, five Super Bowls and six years, Colin, five Super Bowls. Okay, if you want to give the Eagles, they just blast them in the Super Bowl. Fifth! All right. The Ravens, remember Homefield two years ago?

Took them out. The Bills, they played them, I think, four times in five years. Chiefs beat them every time. So, yeah, I mean, going in the momentum. I do think, call me to Andy Homer, but fifth, that's Eagles. No one's going to argue with you there. The Bills and the Ravens, to me, always deserve. I mean, they've proven it.

But number two, I mean, you've got to, one of those two teams got to win a big playoff game, eventually, right? Eventually. I think I am higher on the Seahawks than certainly McIntyre. Where are you on the Seahawks? I'll give you the Seahawks. That's kind of a bold move because the NFC is pretty white. open beside the Eagles. I mean, you could convince me the commanders come back to Earth a little bit,

that they might be better, but they win 10 games instead of 12 or 13. But the Chiefs, five. And the Rams, pretty big wild card. You know, I think the Lions, from a talent standpoint, are a top 516. I think if Joe Alt stays healthy, the Chargers will end up in this spot, but I just got to watch. Because that offensive line was one of the best tackle groupings in the least. league. Now you move alt to the left tackle

where he's probably not as deft and now you kind of cross your fingers at right tackle or do you move Bechton to right tackle and then you're weaker in the interior. They were not very good in the interior line. They were not happy as a

staff. Still pretty dependent on some they re-signed Keenan Allen, Mike Williams retires. I don't love their, I love Ladd McConkey, but they you, Trey Harris at Ole Miss, is he going to make an impact? I mean everyone's really high on the first round running back Hampton. in, but I mean, that's a lot of pressure.

Sometimes running backs come second, third, fourth round are the best running backs in the draft. Cleo Max, an older player. They're very dependent on him on defense. But their coaching staff is excellent. Chargers, I could see Jim Harbaugh, so their floor is really high. They kind of feel 9 and 8. Yeah, well, that's my take. Their floor is really high.

We know they're going to be competent. They're going to be above 500, but Denver now is good. Listen, if the Raiders are the fourth best team, Chip Kelly, Pete Carroll, Brock Bowers, Max, Grosby, Gino Smith is, fine if you give them a little time to throw and I think their own lines okay. So I will say this. There are teams that are bad coming into the season. Saints aren't going to be good.

Jets aren't going to be good. I mean, we can write that down. Giants have talent but may not have a good record. Cleveland's going to be bad. But there's some fourth place teams. I mean, if the Bears and the Raiders finish fourth, those are talented teams. How do you have the Broncos over the Chiefs? They're in the same division.

The Chiefs for one of seven years. Well, because they added Evan Ingram, Huffunga, Green Law. Those are elite players. I haven't won a playoff game in about a decade. Well, you know what, man? New group, I get it. But new coach.

Chiefs five Super Bowl, six years. You have made that point during this segment. I don't even know what to do with Green Bay. I'm putting them there out of respect. It gets boring picking the Chiefs, so I get it. Yeah, I'm not bored with him. Isn't there an argument of fatigue? How many snaps?

I mean, they've taken, it's like a baseball. team that goes to the series. You come back to spring training and everybody's arms has fatigue. Kansas City's been in a lot of big close game year after year after year and all the suspensions at wide receiver. I think it's the one pullback year. But they win all those games.

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