The Herd with Colin Cowherd - THE HERD - Hour 3 - The Broncos defense is legit, the problems with JJ McCarthy, don't give up on Seattle, Mark Schlereth

Episode Date: November 18, 2025

Thoughts on Bo Nix, the great Broncos defense, and if they are the team to take over the AFC West What to make a the Vikings and JJ McCarthy this season. Will McCarthy become a franchise QB with time? Colin gives more reasons to not give up on the Seahawks and Sam Darnold   Guest: Mark SchlerethSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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noon Pacific. Find your local station for the herd at Fox Sports Radio.com or stream us live every day on the IHeart Radio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. We're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Boy, lives in Denver, three-time Super Bowl champ, was with the Broncos for several years. And now Mark Schlarith as Fox Sports NFL analyst. So you get the weekend off this weekend, and you can watch football while many. of us were watching Kansas City and Denver. And, you know, it was interesting about Bo Nex is that, and I think Caleb Williams falls into that.

It's uneven. It's, you kind of feel like Bo Nex should run more. The Bears do run more as a team. I keep coming down. This is something that really impresses me about Bo Nex. He has thrown the most passes in the league since he arrived. And I said this earlier, the greatest company. compliment that a parent can give a child at an early age is responsibility. I trust you

picking up your sister at school. I trust you. I'm leaving babysit your brothers and sisters. Sean Payton is basically done what Andrew Luck felt with Bruce Ariens. Here's the whole playbook. Go for it. And that's hard. They've got a lot of penalties. So my takeaway on all the bow stuff is Sean Payton is telling me, listen, I'm giving you the whole playbook. I'm giving you the Drew Breeze playbook. Big Ben didn't get that. I don't think Caleb's gotten that. That to me is a real thing.

Your thoughts on that, that theory or that opinion. Yeah, I think you're 100% right. You know, I've talked about it. Here are a bunch on local radio on my podcast. There are times when I'm like, hey, man, the answer is always simplify. Yeah.

Like, if you're having issues with penalties, you're having issues with offensive, you know, production, if you're having issues lining up and you've got holding calls and you got procedural penalties and all those things, normally what you say is, amen, it's too complicated. And offensively, you know, by the way, you motion a bunch of guys in there, you're shifting formations, you're getting in play in late, all that stuff, usually the answer, or it's always been in my case, is simplify this. Let's make it easier on our players. And I think one of the things,

John is saying to you is we've got a defense that's a championship caliber defense is a historic type defense, right? So we have that aspect and we've got a quarterback who can handle it. And what he's saying is, I'm not worried right now about the regular season. We'll win games based on our defense in the regular season to get where we want to go, which is a world championship. We need the full complement of offensive plays. We need everything. So if I I simplify, then I'm not developing. If I simplify, I'm not putting my quarterback with the most weapons available when we get to the playoffs. If I simplify, I'm doing disservice to my football team. So I'm going to put us in a tough position. I am not going to, I'm not going to pare down the

offense. I'm not going to quit with my personnel packages. I'm not going to quit using motions and shifts. I'm going to load it on my quarterback. He's going to play in gun because I think this is the best way for us to have a championship run. And I think that's what Sean Payton is telling you right now, is that I'm not going to do the things that make the most sense because those things aren't going to help me come playoff time. So it was a different era, but when you played with Elway, Elway could throw picks.

Peyton Manning threw a lot of picks. Eli Manning threw a lot of picks. In fact, Aaron Rogers was one of the first quarterbacks where you got a lot of upside without picks. Generally, the great ones, the Namath, Favre, John Elway, you threw double-digit picks. And I've always defended. I want my quarterbacks to take risks.

If you go look at Andrew Luck, he had nine games in his career with three plus picks. Same as Sam Darnold. So we look at Darnold and we go, oh, he's a disaster. Andrew Luck, five of his six seasons had double-digit picks. I think Luck's more talented than Darnold, but that was kind of my comp out of college. There's a little bit of Andrew Luck there, a little reckless, but man, has he got an arm and man, is he a playmaker? He is.

I think one of the other... Yeah, I think one of the other things with Sam Darnold is, listen, man, you went to the Jets, and that was a disaster as it is for a lot of people who go to the Jets. And so, you know, that was a mess. And then you go to Carolina, where they're running a collegiate style of offense. Then you choose to go to San Francisco

where you had other options, but you choose because you want to be coached by Kyle Shanahan and progression, a progression offense. Then you go to Minnesota and they decide they don't want you. I think sometimes you get to the point where you're trying to press, where you're trying to earn the contract that you got. And ultimately, for Sam Darnas, you just got to say,

hey, dude, you earn this thing. Man, you're that good. And all you have to be right now is judicious with the football because we've got a football team that is phenomenal. And you think about what happened. I thought the Rams going into the last weekend were the best team in the National Football League. You turn the ball over four times. You give the Rams four short fields and you lose a game 21 to 19.

You should lose that game 41 to 19. That's how you should lose it. That defense is that good. And oh, by the way, Seattle gets into the red zone several times and they end up kicking, what, four field goals? like there are certain games calling you walk away from as a player even though it's a loss where you go we're damn good yeah and i think seattle would look at this game in sofi against the rams team that was hot and you're sitting there going dude we get those guys on a neutral site we win that game we should have won that game right there and you actually feel pretty good about what you were able to accomplish in kind of a tough environment

that didn't go your way. So that's kind of how I would look at that if I'm Sam Darnold. Quit trying to impress people. You've already won the job. You're already that good. You've had a phenomenal season, man. Just don't turn the ball over. So, you know, you were lucky.

You had really good quarterback play. But it doesn't mean every quarterback you played with was the right fit or the right talent. And I think you can fool a lot of people. You can never fool the locker room. You can never fool pro athletes. And I watched J.J. McCarthy, and I'm like, they got a tool set here. That's a good tool belt.

I got Justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison, a good running back, good coach, good left tackle. Give me a time in your career when you just knew the quarterback wasn't it. And what a player say privately that they won't say publicly? What does it do to a locker room? Yeah, it's tough when a guy's, you know, struggling. And I've been in that situation. What you have to remember is J.J. McCarthy didn't play a lot in college. You know, he missed his rookie year with the injury.

And what I would tell you about J.J. McCarthy is he's going to the right place. Like when I watch him on film, it's usually going to the right place. It is just inaccurate at times. And he had some drops last weekend against Chicago Bears. But there are just too many throws that are just all. off target throws. And most of the time, Colin, even in Denver here, and we talked about Bo Nix, when Bo Nix has struggled, it is because he has been so fed up in the pocket that he gets

frenetic. Yeah. And when he gets frenetic, you know, he gets almost, he's so quick with his feet and he's so quick in the pocket and he's climbing the pocket that he's ahead of the receivers, you know, coming out of breaks. he's ahead of the receivers and then he's inaccurate with the football and that's what i see with j j mccarthy just his level of inaccuracy or his level of just being sped up in the pocket almost like he's too anxious yeah you've got to have energy in your feet but you've got to have smooth ability

i used to say this about our colleague tom brady all the time he's the best scrambler i've ever seen that never left the pocket and it just was this fluid nature in the pocket where it never looked, you know, rushed, it never looked hurried, it never looked frenetic, it never, it just looked, you know, smooth. And it allowed him to throw with unbelievable accuracy. And that's what I see the issue being with McCarthy. There's just way too many off-target throws. But the good news for me is I look at it and go, hey, you're going to the right guy.

Yeah. You've got the right thought process here. We just got to put these things on target. and that comes from the feet up. You've got to slow your feet down and you've got to be a little bit more methodical in the pocket so that you can have some accuracy with your throws. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd

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Mahomes is talented. I do think they got to rip the Band-Aid off here with Travis Kelsey. He's really good about six times a year, but he was never a great blocker. He didn't block it all now. When you look at Kansas City, do you still put them in that, oh, they could win the whole

thing bubble? Or do you just, you've been on teams where it's just not right. It's just not the year. How do you feel about them? Right. Yeah. I am. You know, they're sitting at 5 and 5 right and you're right. It's not like, hey, coming off a buy week, Andy Reid was 21 and 4 coming off by weeks.

They've got a buy week going into Denver. They knew Denver's defense was legitimate. They knew that the Denver Broncos are playing pretty good football. This is, you know, you don't win this game. You're probably not winning the AFC West for the first time in what, nine years? Like, they knew all this stuff was on the line, and yet they still could not perform in critical moments. third downs. I think there were five of 16. The Denver Broncos put on

a clinic on third down how to shut down a prolific offense and they've got their weapons back. So yeah, something's off calling. They don't look like the same football team. Now listen, at 5 and 5 could I see them fighting their way back into the playoffs? Absolutely. Will they be dangerous? Yeah, they still have the pedigree of Mahomes and Andy Reed and

spags and like they're still that team but boy they're just they're just a little bit off right now i still think they're better than houston i don't think houston has an offense you see jacksonville up there i think they're better overall than jacksonville do jacksonville did beat them on that monday night game but um yeah they're they're kind of on the outside looking in right now but i still think they're a dangerous football team okay well finally look at denver you cover them you're in that city if they're what denver's gonna win their division. If you said there's one team I don't

want to play, you're not going to probably play New England. They'll probably win their division. If I said there's one team, Denver doesn't match up with as a number one seed, that's not guaranteed. One or two, if they get the one, they get a buy. But is there a team that they've been better in in the regular

season? It's a bad matchup for Sean Payton and Bow Nixon round one. Well, I would say that the team that would scare me on that of all those teams, probably be Buffalo. And I know that they're defensively, they're challenged right now.

They have not been able to shut down the run game. The Broncos can't run the ball. They're not running the ball with great efficiency right now, and they lost J.K. Dobbins. But it's just the overall Superman mentality nature, which is a double-edged sword, as you know, with Josh Allen. I mean, last weekend, three touchdowns passing, I think two rushing.

I mean, the guy was phenomenal. and I don't think that's a way to win a championship, but it certainly can bounce you out of a playoff game without question. They're the team that really concerns me the most. Good stuff, Mark Schlarith. As always, no game this week. You've got to sit home and watch games. How much fun is that?

I know it. How about that? How good is that going to be? Well, last week you had Titans, Texans, and I pity. You did it. Excellent job. I told everybody on our crew, I go, hey, man, at halftime, this is going to be, I guarantee you, Tennessee,

has got a really decent defense. They don't show it because they get worn out, but I guarantee it's going to be a one-score game. I didn't realize there would be only one score, three points. That part I didn't realize. As always, Mark, good seeing you. All right, man. Take care.

Jay Mack with the news. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. Yes, all right, let's get started with the spitting incident from over the weekend. Colin, weird. I think there's like the third.

one of these this season in the NFL. So obviously there was the Jamar Chase. Jalen Ramsey dusted up, which led to Chase spitting. He denied it. After the game, one angle clearly, clearly showed, as you can see on the screen there, Chase spat at him. Obviously,

the NFL decided to suspend him for one game. He's going to appeal it. He ain't going to win that, as you can see the video. And the line on Bengals, Patriots has ballooned up from seven to eight and a half all of a sudden. Patriots have Persia Gonzalez, right?

Put him on T. Higgins and go ahead and beat us, Joe Flacco. I like the Patriots here, Colin. I don't like this from Jamar Chase, who overall seems like a good dude, really good dancer. His celebrations are excellent, but this is, come on. I don't get it. I just, I don't know what drives you to do that. Well, not shown here is a, right before this, Jalen Ramsey kind of hit him after a pass. It was a hard hit.

It was an incomplete pass, really drilled him, and Chase was ticked off, thought it was dirty. So he retaliated with this. But what do they say? Two wrongs don't make a right or something like that? I don't know. I don't make a lot of wrongs, so I'm not from here to saying. But anyway, so Chase suspended. Joe Burrow, no word yet.

We're keeping an eye on that. Now, Burrow all of a sudden, can play. That changes the calculus of this game. Yeah. But I still think the Bengals are toast this season, right? Yeah, they're not a playoff team. No. All right, let's move on to Schneer Sanders.

He had his debut in the second half against the Ravens, Under duress, much of the game, it's starting to look like Colin. Shadour could get the nod for his first NFL start against the Vegas Raiders this weekend. Here's Kevin Stifansky talking about his quarterbacks after practice. Shador is putting in great work on the field, in the meeting room. He will be better with reps that he's getting like any player would be better. But we trust him and he's somebody that's continued to put in the work and will continue to do So, you know, this is the strangest thing.

I always thought Tim Tebow had the most delusional fans. I think Shadoors surpass that. This idea, this criticism of Stofansky, well, he's not getting a lot of first-team reps. Being a backup quarterback means you often don't. Tom Brady would not give his backups first-team reps. Any of them, the great ones are not giving. You think Brett Farr was given Aaron Rogers? First-team reps?

as far was getting poked in the ribs by, you know, snarky, funny Aaron Rogers. Josh Dobbs won a game in the NFL. It's through for 350 yards. Without a practice. Baker Mayfield, with one practice, had a fourth quarter drive to win a game for the Rams. It's a dumb argument. There are certain jobs that you, I mean, it's like, it's a, you remember they used to have beepers? You know, like you, if you were a reporter or a surgeon, you got beep.

Or a. dealer. That's why my parents wouldn't let me get one. Well, I mean, you get beeped at three in the morning. Yeah. You're not always well-rested when you're a surgeon. You're going to go in sometimes in the middle of a night. That's part of the job description. If you're a quarterback in this league, you're not a starter. You're not getting first-team reps.

It's called pre-season. I mean, you may get mop-up duty twice a year. So that is a weak. That's a weak toss at Kevin's to fantasy. His job. By the way, Dylan Gabriel's a rookie. Why would he not give him every rep at every practice? He's trying to make sure that Dylan Gabriel can stabilize his game.

It's not like he's a 13-year veteran. Yeah, I should point out, you mentioned Josh Dobbs, and that was, of course, a memorable game. His nickname was the pastronaut, remember? Because he was allegedly, like, one of the smartest guys out there. He'd just show up boom-bang. Physicist, yeah. Super smart, right.

Yeah. I don't know what Shadur's degree was at Colorado. I'm going to guess it wasn't Astroffiz. Well, yeah. I mean, let's just say this. He was very typical of a rookie who was on the scout team that was injected into a game against a very good team. That's what you look like. Just stop making excuses. You don't get first team reps.

Go look at, you know, I go to Tony Gonzalez's career. Tony Gonzalez was a great tight end who liked a block too. How many times do you think Tony say, hey, back up. We're doing some red zone stuff. Why don't you insure yourself and you can get some reps with my quarterback? That's not the way the sport works. Backups or backups, you don't get first team reps regularly. I'll just say this.

I watched the Raiders last night. You watch that game. Their defense is not good. Dak did whatever he wanted. Now, Dak has better weapons. There's a world where Shador has some success on Sunday, Colin. I'm not going to shock you. I wouldn't be shocked if he throws for 250 yards and they beat the Raiders.

Let me ask you this. You love Brock Purdy. How many first team reps do you think he got before Trey, and Jimmy G. got hurt. None. I'll go with zero. And he stepped in as the last guy taken in the seventh round and was very good first start. He wasn't getting first team reps, so stop making

excuses. If you can play, you can play. Yeah. I'll be rooting for him against the Raiders. No, he was fine. He wasn't as bad as people say, but he runs backwards, and Dylan Gabriel doesn't as often, and that's a lot of what coach, I mean, coaches, what would have Ben Johnson say, the first thing you wanted to get rid of from Caleb, negative plays.

So, Chaturah has a tendency he did in college to take off and run the wrong way. It's like, bro, you're not that athletic. Josh Allen can do that. It's not what you should be doing. Final story comes to the NBA. Well, LeBron James may, may make his season debut tonight against the Utah Jazz at home here at the crypt. LeBron ramped up with the Lakers G-League affiliate.

Was it practice? you can see the videos all over Instagram. I'm excited for this one. I know Utah has been up and down. They got a couple guys. They were in like a triple overtime game the other night. LeBron returning is huge, huge for the NBA. I know some people don't like LeBron.

That's fine. We're talking about the greatest player of all time at his age, coming back to the Lakers, the best brand in the NBA. Luca Reeves. There's a lot of fun storylines here. I'm going to go ahead and go. LeBron plays 15 minutes tonight and you lead the show with the king tomorrow. Hi, May.

He's going to take some shots away from Austin Reeves. Not Luca, but Austin. He'll take shots away from Rui and Austin Roes. Austin Reeves is cool with that. He's a team player. He's not a selfish individual. You want that 40 large. Better get your shots.

He's taking a hometown discount. He's already on record. He loves it in Los Angeles. Doesn't want to go to the Bulls. Doesn't want to go to the Milwaukee Box for Yonis. He loves that. Jay Mack with the news Well, that's the news

And thanks for stopping by The Hurd-Ly News Nobody's saying LeBron's talent isn't An additive to a team But I've said before is that Luca, LeBron And Austin Reeves, there's a lot of duplication They're very good with the ball

I mean Luca is the best offensive player right now in the NBA He wants the ball And you've got to give it to him He's in his prime It's skinny jeans Luca so there is duplication. This team does not have a rim protector

and they're not good enough athletically on the wing defensively. So when you have duplication, you know, it's like a team that's got excellent running backs but needs some perimeter weapons. If you have three good running backs, move one and get a number two or number three perimeter weapon. So it's not that LeBron will make the team worse,

but it'll look different. The spacing will be different. Austin Reeves will get fewer looks, and Austin's very good with the ball. Right now, Lucas, second in Y, usage rate. So the Lakers are winning, giving Luke of the ball a lot. LeBron's going to have the ball some.

He's going to probably drop in usage rate or Austin Reeves is. So the offense won't look the same or feel quite the same. We'll see how it works out. It's the herd. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific.

Hey, it's us to Jonas Brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news? Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts.

Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how did we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band. Before Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember it going down?

Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts,

or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter.

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A cream, cream a chicken suit. This is Help from a Hypocrat, the worst advice from the dumbest people you know. Listen to Help from Hypocrat as part of the Mike Pulturra podcast network available on the IHartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I was kind of, it was funny this morning we were talking about Sam Darnold. and Andrew Luck. And we just came in this morning. We do about an hour and a half prep in the morning. And I said, go look at Andrew Luck's career interception numbers.

Because I had said years ago, when he came into the league, I said, I think Sam, you know, Andrew Luck played at Stanford in the Pack 12. And Sam did at USC. And I said, I bet their interception numbers are kind of similar. I had no idea how similar they were. And again, Luck played in a weaker division. He didn't have Belichick in his division twice a year. and Andrew Luck had Bruce Ariens.

And when you look at the Sam Darnold, Andrew Luck, that's why I've defended Sam Darnold. He's a playmaker. He can be reckless. Farrv was reckless. Elway was reckless. Andrew Luck and Sam Darnold, if you look at their career numbers,

they're incredibly similar. Sam's actually more accurate. But it's crazy. I mean, they're passer ratings. Both have nine games with three plus interceptions. And, I mean, here was, here was, I mean, I just think I like, people love Cam Newton, and Cam Newton never had back-to-back winning seasons.

Sam is now going to have back-to-back winning seasons with two different teams. Like, it's about winning. And if you take the Jets out, Sam was a winner in Carolina, four and two, a winner in Minnesota, and a winner in Seattle. So here was Sean McVeigh yesterday, despite picking off four of his passes, talking about Darnold. I think Sam has done a great job, and I totally agree how well he's played. I think it's the epitome of Russian coverage playing together. And that's why I always think stats are for losers because we had zero sacks. But those four interceptions were such a great combination of.

He gets sped up with Russian coverage. You feel that pocket collapse. He has to deliver the ball earlier than he wants. It was a great job by our group as a whole, bringing it to life. And I think you see on all four of those interceptions, the consistent theme is there's a push in the pocket. There's somebody flashing across his face. And there's guys connected and in their spots on the back end. And I thought Mark Schlerath had a point is, like, Sam, this is a really good team.

Just hold the ball, eat it, dirt it, take a sack. But it is interesting because Andrew Luck, I thought, was the best quarterback prospect I'd ever seen since John Elway. And to give you an example, how good luck was, I don't think people understand this. He went 11 and 5, 11 and 5, 11 and 5. And two of those years, the Colts arguably had the worst roster in the league. is I love Josh Allen. He wasn't that good his first two years. And he had a team that had made the playoffs.

He had a better roster. Andrew Luck is Tom Brady could not have won, and he's the best quarterback ever. Joe Montana could not have won. Peyton Manning could not have won as many games as Andrew Luck did his first two years with that roster. They had one other player that was a Pro Bowl level player. I was a cornerback.

I believe. may have been a special teamer. They just didn't have a lot of talent. So my takeaway is that what Andrew Luck did is all-time unique, and then he just got, you know, he just got lung got, I believe, punctured, and it was just

really sad. But if you go back and look at Luck, he's an all-time talent that got knocked out of the game physically, and yet if you look at Sam's numbers, including the toxic jets, a lot of them are the same. They both had nine three plus interception

games. By the way, the worst game luck ever played, four interceptions against Belichick. Well, Sam had to play Belichick twice a year. So luck didn't. And the worst game Sam's had, he's had two really, really bad games in terms

of interceptions. One was this past week and one was last year in the playoffs against the Rams where he had multiple picks. So, you know, it's just it, and again, I think luck's better. I'm not disputing that. Speaking of great quarterbacks, happy birthday to Caleb Williams.

He is officially 24 years old today. Happy birthday. It's the great Caleb Williams. Come on. Howard, what are we doing? Preparing Donald to Andrew Luck and birthday shoutouts for Caleb. I love this. I don't think Donald's as good as.

Andrew Lark. Yeah, but somebody in an airport walking by the screen is going to see that and be like, wait, what's happening now? I mean, you made a decent argument, but like if this went to court, you would just, you would lose the case for sure. No-brainer. It's not even close. I mean, yeah.

I am acknowledging, I mean, USC before Donald got there was not very good and he got them to win a Rose Bowl over Penn State. I remember that game. He kind of carried him. And then he just went to a place where nobody can win. Yeah, I loved him on the Jets. I was rooting for him when the job. Remember the Giants passed on him?

They were like, we'll take a running back. I was like, oh my gosh, we're doing cartwheels. Donald went 21 and 6 at USC. USC the year before and the year after Donald, 13 and 13. They did not have, I mean, they did not have a lot of talent. I think he played with Michael. Did he play with Michael Pittman? I think he did.

Michael Pickett may have been a freshman or something. I could be wrong on that. So one of the issues with Darnold, and again, we're picking Knits here. But he hasn't faced any good defenses this year, Colin. And then he goes up against the Rams and throws four picks. And the Rams owned him last year when he was in Minnesota. Let me ask you. Name five great defenses in the NFL.

Right now. Okay, well, depending on what metric you want, the Denver Broncos defense is great. The Houston Texans defense is great. Didn't play great last week, but they're great. The Philadelphia Eagles defense is outstanding. Those are three for sure. Seattle has one of the best defenses in the league. I think you would agree with that.

Yeah. The fifth one is tricky off the top of my head. I would say the Rams are up there in most most categories. I think the Rams are really good. Yeah, they would probably be. And I think the Eagles are really good. And I think Denver's really good. He, I think Sam beat did not, yeah, Sam beat

he beat the Texans earlier this year. Sam beat that defense. 2719, yeah, you see that right there. Yeah. Right. Yeah, Pittman was a freshman and a sophomore was Sam. So that was his best teammate, Michael Pittman. But again, I'm not, a luck's better. I'm not, I'm not,

Luck is better. But I'm saying, Sam, his recklessness, the comps on picks are luck. So here's my thing. If they don't win the division, Colin, they will have to go on the road in the first round, right? Now, it might be Tampa Bay, which I think, you know, not inclement weather there. But if he's got to go outdoors to Green Bay, God forbid Chicago, I don't like his chances. Now, the defense will keep him in it. but outdoors Sam Darnold, Colin, I have my concerns.

I never worry about the outdoors with Sam. The outdoors, I worry about Jared Goff or Tua. If it's cold and windy, I don't worry about Sam and cold weather. What I worry about Sam is they lead a game and Sam get sped up, like McVeigh said, Sam, and this was a luck thing. I also think Andrew Luck and Sam are so confident in their abilities, they're not deterred after. after a pick or two. They don't care. Brady had that ability. Brady through pick sixes in Super Bowls. Brady did not care. The ultimate confidence is you throw a pick six. You throw a bad pick or two. And you don't care. So that's

the confidence, almost delusion that a great quarterback needs. One of the criticisms I've had for years of Aaron Rogers, if he throws a second pick in a game, he shuts it down. He's mentally cooked. He starts protecting his passer rating. You can see the body language. He deteriorates. He had one of those games years ago. It may have been against Brady in Tampa. It was windy. He had a couple bad picks. It just kind of like felt he shut down and was protecting his passer rating.

Darnal doesn't do it. Payton didn't do that. Brady didn't do that. Luck didn't do that. They don't care. They have inner scoreboard confidence. They're going to let it rip. And I respect that.

Yeah, one of the problems with Darnal, in the three games against the Rams, two, and I know two were with Minnesota last year. If he falls behind, I don't know that they, yeah, he presses, he's overthinking it. And listen, that's a tough spot. Put up. put up the NFC playoff picture though I'm telling you you do not want to play Seattle in the playoffs

they'll probably be an underdog remember what is Seattle on the road bizarrely great can you imagine being the Rams or the Bears or the Bucks and hosting Seattle

and Seattle's the best road team in the in the league if tomorrow if the Seahawks played the Bears and the Bucks I'd take Seattle on the road yeah I would I would probably agree let me check the Seahawks schedule. The Eagles are going to win the NFC, barring some kind of major injury.

If your schedule lines up, they got the Washington twice. Ask yourself this. If you're the Eagles, and you look at the Seahawks, Packers, Niners, Detroit, and you could ask Philadelphia who they don't want to play of those four. You're not going to play division winners.

You're going to play either Seattle, Green Bay, San Francisco, Carolina, Dallas, or Detroit. I guarantee you, Philadelphia would say, We have no interest in Seattle. Green Bay, Green Bay is, don't scoff at their defense. They have no identity at all.

I mean, you already beat them in Lambo. Coach, Green Bay or Seattle? LaFleur, obviously. McDonald's great, but come on, it's LaFleur, come on. LaFleur's been great. You asked me a question and gave me the answer.

I'd take McDonald. Over LaFleur? Yeah. Based on one season that McDonald's been pretty good. I needed one season with Sean McVeigh. I knew he was better than 90% of the league. Fine.

Quarterback. Darnold or Love? Coin flip. Oh my gosh. Sorry. You're clearly all in on Seattle. Run game. Seattle.

Athletic roster. Wait, is Josh Jacobs healthy? Wait, wait. Wait, wait. What's happening here? Hold on. You think Seattle's better right now than Green Bay? If they played, absolutely.

Absolutely. Oh, damn. Okay. I was not anticipating that. So you give them the edge of coach. quarterback is a toss-up. Run game and roster. And by the way, number one weapon, Seattle.

Run game, Seattle. Seattle does have the best offensive skill position player weapon. Yes, I would agree. JSN is number one. Huh. Okay. Oh, my, that's a bold take. Can you tell our social staff to put that online?

Let's see if people agree with you or not? No, I'm saying Seattle has an absolute identity. What is Green Bay offensively? Their coach doesn't know. Seattle, you know what Seattle is. You tell me how many teams can throw four picks against the Rams and be kicking a winning field goal. How many? Not Green Bay.

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