The Herd with Colin Cowherd - The Herd - Hour 3 - The Dolphins offense

Episode Date: September 26, 2023

Thoughts on Joe Burrow's injury The Cowboys issues against the Cardinals It looks like the Dolphins are reinventing the wheel with their offense   Guest: Mark SanchezSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Seriously, check it out for yourself at Discover.com slash match JMac eloquently with a news. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. I don't know about it, eloquently, but let's talk about the Saints. 17-0-0-0 lead against the Packers. They were really controlling this game. They were dominating.

And then Roshan Gary just throws Derek Carr to the turf. And you can see it. Like, Gary actually jumps and then boom. It's like a wrestling move. You're not supposed to be able to slam guys. I know. But he was dodging someone. I don't know, man.

It's not good. Dennis Allen, the coach of the Saints, addressed Carr's status, his AC joint injury. Derek's got a sprained AC joint. You know, we'll evaluate him as he goes throughout the week this week. I think we dodged a bullet there in terms of anything of real, you know, significance. I think we're kind of saying week to week, you know, but again, he felt better today than he did, you know, yesterday. So we're not making any decisions today.

We're not ruling anything out. We'll see where he's at as a week goes on. It's shaping up to be a James Winston revenge game. I just can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. What do you mean?

I just, I can't. I've seen James. I've rooted for him. I'm over James. I can't do it. He's going to be the guy. Yeah, I know, but I can't do it. Is this a walk away or are you taking Tampa?

Walk away. They're just certain players. I don't want to be involved in the game. He drives me nuts. So I'm just, it's okay. I'm fine with it. I'm not betting. I'm not putting my.

money on a quarterback that makes a lot of mistakes. I can't do it. So Dennis Allen, we know conservative coach, defensive guy. This is going to be a heavy ground game. Alvin Kamara, I believe, returns from suspension, three games. Yes. It's going to be a Taysam Hill Kamara game. Yes. And you just ride that Saints defense to victory.

I just took the Saints three. It looks like it's headed two or three and a half. You don't think this is a slam dunk? We saw Baker against a real defense, Eagles, shrivel up. Well, I do think it was a reality. check. I also think Philadelphia is much better than New Orleans without Derek Carr. I think they could play against Philadelphia for a while with Derek Carr. They're going to get, they'd really get rolled with James Winston against Philadelphia. They get rolled by 20. Yeah. Okay. I like the Saints. Anyways, good luck to James Winston. Next up, Colorado,

let's go to college football. Yeah. Colorado took that L against Oregon. They were blown out 426. Travis Hunter missed the game due to the lacerated liver. against Colorado State. It sounds like he's, he thinks he could go for Saturday, but Dion Sanders talked about how bad he wants to play, and I don't think Dion's going to let him. I need to play this week. We need to get everything we can so I can get back on the field.

I'm not taking no-for-answer. Who you think sent me there? How did you know that? Because what? I ain't ready, and I care about you more than I care about this game. You're going to change the game of football one day when you're healthy and ready. The future is brighter than mine ever will be it ever will.

Relax and get healthy. I love you, son. That's the right move. Yeah, you don't want to rush it back. Let's take a pause. How do you feel about them filming Dion 24-7 and putting stuff like this out? I'm just curious. Well, this is not a big brand.

Dion is making them interesting. So if Dion's okay with it, I'm okay with it. This is right now, they are building a brand. Or I watched the Oregon do this. Attempting to. Yeah, I watched Oregon do this for years with Phil Knight. So Washington and Northwest had Don. James and they had stature. They'd freak out if you changed uniforms to white pants for a game.

And then Oregon came in and said, let's go the opposite of Washington, 30 uniforms, maybe 50, rebuild it. Uniform colors are different than attitude. Oregon was putting billboards in Times Square. So Oregon, and by the way, with Phil Knight's genius and Nike money, it took them 10 years to build a brand, eight to 10 years. So now, they didn't have social media, IG, TikTok. So it'll probably take three to four. So what you want to do is if Dion's not going to be here forever, you let him for four years build this puppy up,

and it creates momentum. So if he did leave, not saying he would, the next coach is like, I'm going to ride some of this talent and inertia and movement and momentum, and Colorado is reborn. So I agree that that's not a bad idea. And as a result, you know, undisputed and speak are going to be there Friday. I think it's great. I can't wait. Okay. Let me ask you, though, this morning, Oregon, I don't know if you saw it online, put out a video.

I saw. And essentially, they're basically taking what Colorado's doing and throwing right back at them. They videotaped the Colorado players talking trash to Oregon before the game on the field. You know, and it was like, what do you got doing? On the road talking trash, stepping on the logo, all that nonsense. But teams are starting to take what Colorado is doing and throwing it back at them. Well, they might as well now. because this is the worst Deon team they'll have.

They're going to get only better. And we're certain that they're only going to get immensely better. He's a good coach and it's a nice staff and you can't turn a program around. LSU and USC couldn't turn it around and they had better players for Brian Kelly and Lincoln Roddy. These guys had no players. So he needs another transfer portal. He needs more recruits.

I got no problem with Deion's guys. It's all in good fun in college sports. It's fun. And getting your doors blown off 426 and exciting the opponent to come after you? Did you watch them in the first couple weeks? Oh, yeah, I'm watching. It's the attention economy.

We just want your attention. We don't care if we get destroyed. Well, a lot of recruiting is attention. You're recruiting 18, 17-year-old kids. On some level that we're... I think it's a larger discussion we can get into. There's a line, and I just wonder if Colorado's just flying past it. We don't care.

Well, let me ask you. Who's getting hurt? Well, I don't know. They just got their doors blown off. 422-6 embarrassed their pants pull down on national television. Outside of like Ohio State and Bama, everybody gets blown out. Okay. I mean, I mean, seriously.

Let's see if it's a recurring theme. If USC does it, if Utah does it, and there's just no mercy. My takeaway is, what's the downside to what Prime's doing? Maybe there is no downside. I don't see the downside. It's the Elon Musk effect. He's a carnival barker just talking about X and Twitter and SpaceX and Tesla. Just talk about it.

Well, yeah, but drive up the price of the stock. Dion's got substance. Elon's got substance. Elons got, yeah, this isn't some Instagram model with no substance. Elon, Tesla, PayPal, Space X, Prime,

Hall of Famer, great recruiting class. Prime's got, Dion's got all sorts of substance. Jackson Stadium was like dominant, like out of the gate. You don't think he has substance? I see a lot of substance.

I think it's more style. When Oregon was being flashy, they had Mike Blottie. They had Phil Knight. They were winning games. They were beating Washington. and there was all sorts of substance to Oregon. So they had steak with their sizzle.

I know, it's more jerseys for Oregon. Colorado is a lot of talking. Oregon was a lot of talking. You know what happens in our men's basketball league when people are talking trash before the game? Yeah, that equates to Dionne Sanders. We had our threes. Anyway, sorry, final story, NBA.

Damien Lillard. This is crazy. I had no idea this was happening. But apparently the Raptors. The Toronto Raptors are now the leaders for Damian Lillard? You think Portland's cold? I cannot imagine. that this is really happening?

Why not? This has got to be a leverage play. No, this is a good organization. Toronto's well-run. Is this even an upgrade? What do you mean? To Toronto? They're not contending for a title?

Well, Toronto in the East has been very viable. That's a well-run organization. Anyways, they expect Damien Loner to be traded by October 2nd, which is NBA Media Day for most teams. It is a bit of a shock for me. Well, listen, Portland has a right to get something in return, too. Sorry, NBA. Can't all be about the star player all the time.

Hey, Toronto, hey, sorry, Dave, hey, this is the Toronto GM. Are you excited to come to Toronto? Hey, if you gave me Pascal Seaccom with... What, Portland wants Pascal Seaccombe? Well, I'm saying, if I gave you Damon, what do I get back?

I'll take Scotty Barnes. I don't want to... I think this makes sense to me. Wow. Portland's got guards. They can use some size and wings. Toronto's got them. I love this move. By the way, Toronto...

I don't have a great history. I mean, I've done a lot of Vancouver. My wife just went to Montreal. Toronto is a great city. Toronto is one of the great international cities in the world. They say it's a clean New York. It's a cleaner New York. By the way, I'm banned in Toronto for some comments I made.

Cannabis is legal in New York. It just smells like a reefer. Why are banging on New York? What do you have a state of the morning? I'm not. I'm just people are saying it's reefer madness. Every week you're like the trash smell. You know, our next guest has a lot of familiarity in New York.

He's going to defend it. But he doesn't do. reefer. All I'm saying is Toronto. Hey, if I get Pascal Seacom for Dame with all those young guards for Portland, home run deal. What do I get from Miami, Tyler Hero? I got enough guards.

Give me a big. I'm excited. Did you take some shots before the power hour here? You are fired up. My goodness. Sanchez is backed out of the interview. That's just too much cannabis talk. He is, it doesn't want his brand to touch this.

All right. Are you done? Jay Mack with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Herd Line. Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged.

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Really? Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, let's bring in Mark Sanchez. Every week, we love having him on on a Tuesday Fox Sports Analyst. By the way, he had the Chargers Vikings game. I listened to all of it.

He was great. We're going to get to that. he's got a clip after the break. We want to address things before there. And I want to start with Burrell last night. So as a former great athlete, I know what a calf injury is all about. They stink. They're constantly reacting.

You're talking about me. Yeah, yeah, you too. So let me ask you, it's funny. You're the quarterback. The team's losing. You've been there. Pressure. Got to play hurt, Mark.

Defensive linemen play hurt. Guards play hurt. Quarterback, you know, you know that pressure. They can't hit you in practice. And I do think Burrell feels like, Dude, everybody in practice hits except me, and there is pressure to play. Well, 100%. And we mentioned this in August.

You're either hurt or you're injured, and everybody's hurt. So you need to decide, can I perform. And he can perform to the ability that helps them win. Now, does it look quite as sexy as before when he's 100% fresh out of the gate? Maybe not. But understanding how to manage your misses, understanding when to take the big shot, how to take a little bit off the ball to change your throwing mechanics a little bit because you can't get as much juice on the ball. If you're pushing off that calf consistently,

guys can make up for it with their arm strength and arm ability. Now, if he didn't have that talent, the balls are spraying all over the place in practice, they wouldn't try them out there. But Joe Burrell is a special guy, and he's going to figure out a way. He has that ability to get to the answer, no matter what it takes, and he's willing to put his body on the line. And I think that juices up his guys. You saw. saw it in college before he has that amazing year. I think the real turning point in his career, I think they played UCF maybe in a bowl game. His junior year. And he got absolutely just pummeled on the sidelines, like, look like he was going to go off in a stretcher or something, walks it off,

takes his breath, and comes back firing. And that's where I think the team realized at Ogeron, the rest of the LSU Tigers, that's a dude. You know, Dionne Sanders puts dog on their chest or whatever. That's a dog right there. He's going to figure out a way to play. You better drag me off this field because I ain't coming out. I'm going to find a way to win. And that's what he did. So you have Arizona this week.

And I like Josh Dobbs. I don't know if I build around him, but he's big, smart moves, can make throws. Faster than you think. Yes, he is. And it's interesting. So last week is you've been in these games. So when I think of your career, a lot of it is Manning, Brady. You had big wins.

That was a good team. But there are these weird weeks when nothing goes right. And there's 12 penalties. And you've probably had one of these and you're like, I got to break a shout of Ferguson. I got this guy. What are we doing? How's this team hanging around with us? And Arizona is a weird team.

So do you look at that game because you have them this week and think Arizona's sneaky or good than we think or Dallas, you've had one. Nothing goes right. A little bit of both. I think both things can coexist and it's not mutually exclusive. Arizona hadn't had a lot of film on tape. You got two games of Josh Jobs and you're kind of trying to figure out. Now, after a couple more games, you'll understand exactly what that offense looks like. I thought they did an excellent job of trying to leave Michael Parsons in space and make him decide

to keep him away from making some big plays. Also, I think, you know, the Cowboys red zone issues, that's where they started to really stack points on teams. Their defense gets a big turnover, potentially gets points. Boom, the offense goes in and seals the deal. When that doesn't happen, or you give it away like they did with an interception late in the game, well now you're kind of looking around like ooh this team's hanging with us these other teams could have hung with us yeah but they made mistakes and we capitalize Arizona mostly mistake free really safe

game plan sharp game plan use Dobbs let them run around and make it difficult for the Dallas Cowboys defense they ran on them pretty easily right so that's something that Dallas is going to have to address but great game plan by Arizona an unpredictable team you know so for san francisco seeing those first three games, they'll have a little better idea. And, you know, they're going to have to have a solid, they don't have as much margin for air maybe as San Francisco or Philadelphia or something like that. But they sure found a formula to win. There's a formula there. It's, okay, how hard is it going to be to get to it? There's a formula for every team. And some teams have a little extra margin for error. We can win with a turnover, guys. We got the talent. We got the scheme. We got the players.

We got the momentum. We have it between our ears. You know, young teams, inexperienced teams, and stuff like that, they just have less margin for air. So because you're doing NFC games, you don't get to see all the AFC games. So you don't get to see at Denver, Miami. You can watch highlights and you do that. But I was saying this yesterday is that when I watch Miami offensively, you ever, you ever, I remember when Jordan was in his peak, Michael Jordan. And I'm like, only six, six, he's not the strongest guy.

Dominique Wilkins jumps higher. Are we going Jordan, too? Oh, boy. But I remember thinking, Hold on. Michael makes it look so easy. So you watch Miami's offense. And I'm like, why doesn't, why doesn't everybody use all this motion?

Is it too complicated? Like, I under people, the NFL is a copycat league. Some of the stuff Miami does, I'm like, how come everybody else doesn't do it? Or is it like, well, you don't have Tyreek Hill? It looks so clever and so much motion. It is. And the plays aren't, he's not reinventing the wheel. Their head coach, right?

he's second year of the system. Offenses grow over time. They evolve. It's not like the static words and lines on a page and a book that just sits there and gathers dust in the offseason. Pages come in, pages go out. You know, you evolve. This thing is a living, breathing animal almost. And it depends what that animal, what their attributes are.

And if you keep those players and attributes together over time, like Kansas City, you keep that core group together, things start to go off script. You add a couple motions. You add a little tweak here. Hey, remember how we were trying to get to this old counterplay we were doing, and they kept blowing it up because the nine technique was just really walling it off, and we couldn't get the full. Boom, the timing was off, whatever.

Let's try it with the motion. Let's try it out of the gun. And we're going to flip the quarterback's mesh point. We're just going to flip him around and turn him around to hand back counter. Boom, and throw a little window dressing on it, a little lipstick on the pig. same damn play, just a little bit of sprinkles on top of your basic vanilla ice cream, right? And every time they've done it, it works because they're all speaking the same language. You can tell the communication is crisp, it's concise, and it's the second go-round.

Right. You're just less nervous to do it the second time. Everybody knows what's going on. You learn how to ride a bike. I know how to ride a bike forever. I learned how to tie my shoes. I can tie my shoes in the car, you know, standing on top of a bridge, standing under the bridge. It doesn't matter. I know how to ride. time I shoes. These guys know this offense and now it's starting to grow with them. And those guys, the them, they got a lot of talent. By the way, Shanahan third year popped in San Francisco. We forget that. Exactly right. And they're both wordy offenses. It takes a little time to digest some of that stuff. And then how am I teaching this offense to Tua? Because you learn it a few times in the

off season, right? You get different installations of the offense multiple times. So like if it takes 12 days to install your entire offense from base game plan, red zone, third downs, you know, backed up, goal line, all that kind of stuff, blitz answers, whatever, coverage beaters. You have about 12 days, maybe two weeks of an install each day to whole offense. You get that three or four times in the offseason, OTAs, you get it in training camp, you get it again when the season starts, you get all these cracks at it. Well, now that you've done it eight times, shoot, I know all that.

I could teach these plays to the players. I know why the splits are this. I know how Tua learn that play and what coverage is he's run it against. Boom, we're just checking off these plays in this Rolodex in his brain. How many times has he seen it versus man to man versus zone versus some of these matching zones, versus a fire zone with pressure versus simulated pressure? Well, now he's starting to run all these plays against all these looks. And now he's just a computer processing 100 miles an hour.

And he's crushing it because they have the talent. They've kept them together. and it's the second year in the system. All right, a lot more with Mark. He's got a tape. He does this. He's going to talk some Chargers Vikings, which was a wildly crazy game.

At one point, I thought both teams were trying to give it away. It was a fantastic broadcast. I spent every second watching it. Mark was tremendous. We'll have a piece of tape. We'll talk about multiple things in that game. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the IHeard Radio app.

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Why? Yeah, instead of us doing that, let's just let our millions of fans do the talking. Yeah, play the tape. You don't know crap about sports. I mean, why am I even on this crap? Whoa, whoa, whoa, that's the wrong tape. Wrong tape. Just forget that.

Look, listen to the Pauli and Tony Fusco show on the iHart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year.

Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping them. muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying.

Yep, that's me, Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show.

This is a place for, raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment, and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast, it's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So, if you've ever supported me, or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be. Listen to the Clifford show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. Do you remember when Diana Ross double-tap Little Kim's boobs at the VMAs? Or when Kanye said that George Bush didn't like black people. I know what you're thinking. What the hell does George Bush got to do a little Kim? Well, you can find out on the Look Back at it podcast. I'm Sam J. And I'm Alex English.

Each episode, we pick a here, unpack what you? went down and tried to make sense of how we survived it. Including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill, waxing all about crack in the 80s. To be clear, 84 was big to me, not just because of crack. I'm down to talk about crack all day, but just so you all know. I mean, at this point, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack, so I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have AIDS on the table right now, so. Thank you for finishing that sentence.

Yes. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Really? Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, Mark Sanchez joining us, as he does weekly and we love it. So the Chargers Vikings game was tension for three and a half hours. His nervous energy everywhere. It was. I mean, I'm on the time texting buddies. I'm on the phone. I'm like, of course the game comes down to a fourth down.

I mean, it was just a fantastic. I'm smacking Kevin Coogler in the booth so many times. He's probably got bruises on his right arm. I feel bad. Okay, so Kellyn Moore comes over for Justin Herbert. Our sense was a young progressive OC. So there's two pieces of film here. The first one, the Vikings were not afraid to put a lot of dudes in the box.

Let's talk about it. Not at all. That's a Mike Patton thing. That's a Coach Flores thing. Brian Flores, they'll pressure you and they want to see if you can handle it, right? If it gets hot, what's his answer? Is he going to panic? Is he going to throw us a job?

cheap one. So Kellan Moore gave him some options, right? He gave him some tools in his tool belt like Batman, his utility belt. They got everybody on the line of scrimmage. Eight guys. No deep middle safety. Here they were walking up to the line of scrimmage. What does Justin Herbert do? I'm going to handle this myself. We're not going to change protection and start screaming and yelling in protection. Let's just signal my guys out here. So what is he telling these guys in a condensed formation? Hey, go protect for this back receiver, right? Palmer, you basically are blocking for Kenan Allen to avoid the interception like we saw in the Super Bowl with Russell Wilson and the Patriots, he's basically servicing for him.

So that's all he's doing. See in the line of scrimmage, boom, Ada, here it comes. It's getting hot in the kitchen, coach. Hot in the kitchen. Just gives a signal. Quick little signal. No, because it's loud. This is early in the game before they really get into the game plan and start making some

adjustments at halftime. Quick little signal. Love the telestrations, guys. Excellent job. Boom, Palmer, go block for me. We're either going to attack inside or we're going to attack outside. This one happens to be an inside quick little slant. Look at Palmer off the ball.

Slow. Collect the defender. Don't attack the defender. So you don't get in trouble for blocking down field. Boom. Quick catch. Easy first down. That's early on.

He had an answer for pressure, right? Just in case. Now, let's go after half. Second half. Okay, these guys want to pressure us. Spread the field out. The thing's 53 and a third yards wide, I want empty formation. I want my quarterback to see it clear as day.

Boom. Everybody on the line of scrimmage. Oh, no. It could be that. Blitz, right? A Sam and a will? No chance. Look at that middle safety. Justin Herbert knows this right away. Okay, great. We're good, boys. We're probably getting a four-man rush. We do. He gets spooked a little bit by protection. All right? I would have preferred he stayed in the pocket and attacked vertically. This is a third and 17 late in the game. So he knows he's got to make a play.

They're going for it on fourth down. But he exits the pocket stage left. Everybody follows them them like moths to a light and this kind of throw. Come on. Every once in a while, what do we say about Josh Allen? Every once in a while, you break out the cape. remind everybody your Superman on 3rd and 17. You're going to go for it on 4th down anyway. Yeah. Hey, if he would have got a little completion to the left, fine. We'll probably still go for it or potentially kick a field goal.

But it's the process that I'm enamored with that I'm really interested in. He's got answers for all this stuff. And he knows when it's clean and when it's not clean. He knows the situation. He understands how to attack defenses, not to react. But now you're going to pressure me. All right, watch this. Bam.

And I got an answer for you. And that's scary. Yeah, that's scary for a defense because now you're, ooh, do we sit back in zone? I don't know. I mean, they missed a couple big plays. And he only had seven incompletions. I mean, the kid was dealing now. And they were coming after.

They're coming over the walls on him. And he still was just calm, collected, had answers. Tools in his tool belt, new one to use them. So I would have punted at the 24. And I'll leave. At the end? Yeah, no, so here's my takeaway. Timeouts matter.

So Minnesota had no timeouts. Increasingly, both and the boys were getting pressure. Momentum. And you needed a touchdown. Agreed. But the second thing was, Echler's out and Mike Williams is hurt. Okay, it's different now.

Now I'm going to a backup powerback, and we haven't run all game. And I do have a veteran across the field who, if we don't make it, Kirk's been in this situation 30 times. Sure. So to me, there were two things. They got no time out. Make them go to the field.

Secondly, I'm missing Mike Williams, who by the way, matchup nightmare, Eckler, clever back, always finds it. So between personnel and no timeout, I didn't like it. Your thoughts? I could argue both ways. I know why he did it. I know analytics would say, you know, 89% says you get this one and games in the bag. If you punt it, it's 82%. But because of momentum, what you mentioned, me personally, I might have punted it, try and pin him back and force this up.

offense to really generate some points. Remember, they have to score a touchdown. Now, the only other thing I would have said here is, if you're going to go for it, don't take it out of Herbert's hands. Just give it, you know, do the Philly sneak play, whatever you got to. Exactly. And it's a healthy yard, so you've got to factor that in. But I like the sneak. I think this is a great example for Kellyn Moore for this offense. It's still growing, still learning. Year one, don't forget, the way we talked about Miami. Same way you've got to apply those rules to all these teams. I think they learn from this one.

And if you're going to go for it, call a better play. If you're going to punt it, fine. I can see both sides. So let me, you have the Niners this week. And when I watch Philadelphia, I know. So when I watch Philly,

I always, because their O-line and D-line plays, and these are like Brandon Graham, Lane Johnson, Kelsey. These are all the names. You can name all the O-Lyman and D-Lyman is a problem. So they can struggle on the perimeter. and they still win the tug of war every week.

San Francisco is the only team that I think physically feels like, oh, they're going back and forth. What I find fascinating about Brock Purdy is not that he was, I mean, Tony Romo was undrafted, so was Kurt Warner, Mark Brunel, Brady. It happens. There's a ton of talent. But I will say this, is that that offense, it feels like to me, is fairly demanding. I mean, again, Kyle took the O'R3 to win.

When you watch the tape, Brock makes the right decision like a lot. It's the processing. And it was funny. We had them two weeks ago. And I asked him in the production meeting, I just said, yo, when's the last time you went up to a play that was just to call it and run it? And he goes, meaning you go up to the line of scrimmage, you're not thinking you just say hike and boom, hand it off to somebody.

And he goes, oh, man. I said, it was a joke. I know. I said, I know you got a lot going on. You go up to the line of scrimmage with a full menu. I mean like, you know, cheesecake factory menu. Think like that, right? Not like a little one-page specials.

Like, we got everything available. And they make you... Oh, 100%. And the way he's doing it as fast as they're doing it now, he's going to get clues along the way to get to the right answer because Coach Shanahan, Kyle Shanahan, is going to leave these little Easter eggs in the formation. I'm going to motion here.

I'm going to shift here. This is the personnel. Here's who we're trying to attack. Here's the purpose of the play. Does this work? Yes or no? Flow chart. No.

Okay. What's our contingency play? It's hard. I got three seconds. You got to do it with a diminishing play clock. You're up to the line of scrimmage with maybe 20, 18, somewhere in there. And then it's those 18 seconds plus the three seconds. In about 21 seconds, you know, it changes the course of a game, essentially.

So when you have an elite processor like him, like Herbert, like Burrow, like Stafford, who I don't think gets enough credit, sidebar, it's so much more fun for a coordinator because generally they're going to put you in the right situation. The coordinator is going to dial you in. with great calls. Five to seven times a game, you got to overrule and basically take over as the coach on the field in between the white lines and go make the coordinator right. And you can tell the teams that have the relationship between coach and quarterback, they make each other right. They bail each other out. And it's the coordinator's job to put you in more positive situations than

negative. And it's the quarterback's job to bail him out the handful of times a game where the defense guess is right, essentially. So one more, one Pete Carroll question. I said today, I don't know what to make of them. But I never thought of Pete as a quarterback guy. I mean, you had him. But Gino Smith again is completing like 69% of his throws. I never thought Gino had it. He's got something.

Are you, you've been on one of their games? Yeah. Are they good? Oh, they're very good. I think maybe one of the best things in two or three months that we'll look back on is that they got hit in the mouth week one. I think that might be the best thing because Coach Carroll is the quintessential underdog, right? He's like Mike Tomlin.

Yeah, like when he started the USC program and brought him back, he was reminding these guys, like, you didn't get recruited to these other schools. Like, they didn't want you. Let's go beat them up for that. Like, let's go remind him. That underdog mentality and shaking the bus on the way to the game and like getting everybody excited, it's easier to do it after you lose, in my opinion, right? you get knocked down a rung, and it's like, oh, man, there's something.

We're chasing something. Instead of being on top of the ladder looking down and staving off all these people trying to jump you on the ladder, you're climbing, you're fighting, you're clawing for it. And I think when they're in that mode, that underdog kind of overlooked type of mentality, I think that's their sweet spot. And that's the magic to Coach Carroll. He can do it when you're winning as well. But, you know, as that underdog role, they're dangerous.

Well, and this week, I think they traveled in New York. The Seahawks do. And I think they may be an underdog. And it's kind of the classic. Perfect. You know what I thought. You wanted me? Like, good.

And their weakness passed. The Seahawks, who? Great. Great. Let's just fly under the Raider, radar B-2 bomber style. And before you know it, everybody's just disintegrated. Were you on the USC team that went to like Virginia Tech? That was a year before I got there.

But yes, I know exactly what we mean, yeah. They went to Auburn. Yes. Some of the best game. Every year we take a big trip. That was like a big test. And it was often the best game you played all season. Oh, 100%.

It just brought you right into this perfect mind frame for the rest of the season. Like we did it in some tough circumstances on the road, you know, chaotic environment. And we did it, boys. We got it. We got everything we need right here. There's nowhere else to look. Nothing else to worry about. We can figure it out.

You know, because you have that experience. You have that knots in your belt and we can handle anything. And that's, I think, after they. they, you know, took a step backwards to start the season. It's okay, well, it's reassess here. Let's get back to some fundamentals and play our style of football, and that's what they've done. Had the Chargers win at the Vikings,

has the Cardinals at the 49ers, that Sunday for Eastern on Fox. Arizona is Joshua Dobbs is one of those guys that's moved around a lot, easy to root for, a little bit of a gamer. First win all time? I know. Seventh year.

But I was, I watched them at Tennessee, and I thought he's, gamer, he can make plays, he can move. If you can move the pocket, you create dimensions that defenses don't want to face. Mark Sanchez. Great seeing you again. Yes, sir. As always. All right, Jay Mack, first thing first is around the corner. We'll give you one more look, probably at our herd hierarchy. Today, I think Jay Mack said it was the best one I've ever done, so I would love to pat myself on the back at least one more time. We need Sanchez's thoughts on. This is your forum, guys. See you tomorrow.

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