The Herd with Colin Cowherd - THE HERD - Hour 3 - The needs of NFL teams, the top prospects of the NFL draft, Todd McShay
Episode Date: February 10, 2026Looking at the top prospects of upcoming NFL draft Colin discusses the needs of certain teams and who should trade up or trade down Thoughts on the Raiders new head coach Klint KubiakSee omnystudio.co...m/listener for privacy information.
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Well, you know, it's one of the stronger drafts in a while,
certainly better than last years.
It is not a quarterback heavy draft.
We've got one star quarterback at the top.
Todd McShay does this for a living at McShay 13's, the Twitter account.
College football analyst, draft guy known for a long time.
So, you know, listen, New England went bad to good very quickly based on coaching hires
and the ascension of Drake May, who was already in house.
I mean, if you look at Clint Kubiak, who doesn't have Vrabel's, you know, pedigree yet, could be great.
Fernando Mennoza, Brock Bowers, Ashton Jentee, Colton Milder comes back.
Defense are, they were banged up, but they've, they've, Max Crosby's obviously elite.
Let's just talk about the offense.
is Fernando Mendoza a good fit for Clint Kubiak?
Darnold was, I don't think they're the same kind of player.
Is Kubiak and Mendoza, does that work immediately to you?
It works.
I mean, I think we should start with the jumping off point,
and I hope we've learned from the Sam Darnold situation.
Like, talent is talent, right?
And I really like Fernando Mendoza.
He's tall, he's 65, 220.
He's got mobility for his.
size, he's got a lot of energy on the ball, and he's smart. But he's not, if we're talking physically,
he's not some of the guys we've seen in the last few drafts. He's not Caleb. He's not Jaden. He's not
Drake. Yeah. He's not even Cam Ward. So there's that to unpack, right? And then the other part is
what you're asking here is the fit. I think he can be a good fit. I mean, you know, with Kubiak,
you're talking about kind of his touch in 2025 on the Shanahan system, right? Outside zone,
play action, on the move, bootlegs, you know, getting the ball out. They want to be physical and
run the ball. And they've got the running back to do it. They've got to improve their offensive
line. They've, you know, there's some things that have to fall into place. I think off of play
action is where Mendoza does a lot of really good work. Now, it's an adjustment to, you know, the play action
off the outside zone versus kind of the RPO stuff he was doing in Indiana.
But both guys, I mean, he's used to, Kubiak, a quarterback who can be overaggressive.
Yeah.
And he was able to manage that in Sam Darnold.
You'll say, well, during the regular season, he didn't.
Yeah, but in the playoffs he did.
And you can see Sam Darnold continue to grow and develop.
And he had his best game of his career, the second to last outing in the NFC championship game.
So I think you'll see a lot of that.
And it's the same thing.
When I watch his tape at Cal, Mendoza's, I loved him, and I was kind of the first on the train.
He could be a first round pick.
But I also recognize it's just far too many turnover worthy plays.
Eyes drop when that initial pressure comes and there's this little quarter count of panic in his game.
Still has that.
But what Signetti and that whole staffer in the end was able to do is bottle up.
Make his reads easier.
let's read the cornerback on this two by two and let's make a decision if it's not there we can take off and run
but we're not going to get in a position where we're asking you to sit in the pocket go through read after read after read
and allow yourself to get into some old habits so kubiak's going to pick up where they left off if mendoza's in fact the pick
yeah is there um i mean outside of mendoza usually the rule is for the top 15 picks just take the best guy on the board
There's about 15 special players every draft.
And then, you know, if they're available, unless you've already got your tackles, take the tackle if he's the best guy.
Is there a definitive second best player?
Here's your mock draft.
You have Reese, who was a remarkable linebacker at Ohio State.
David Bailey's really good.
I mean, Ruben Bain, I like Jeremiah Love.
I don't think he's a second pick.
Is there to you a definitive got to take him at number two?
If you're asking me that, first of all, I think it's the best prize.
in this class is Rvel Reese.
But he is a projection.
He's 6-4-245.
He's one of those guys, like he's going to, if he works out at the combine or at Ohio
State's Pro Day, it's going to get a lot of attention.
He was a one-year starter at Ohio State after kind of backing up two guys that'll wind up
be an NFL guys and playing in a rotation in 2024.
His ability to cover and play sideline to sideline, the power he has, the length he has.
it's unique, man, for an off-ball linebacker.
But what you're doing is you're projecting him as an edge.
Now, is it the same career arc as Michael Parsons?
I think people forget he was an off-ball linebacker
until injuries happened with Dallas as a rookie.
And then he becomes the edge that we all know and love now.
I could see a similar arc.
He's just not developed as an edge rusher.
If you're asking me the best player in this draft, though,
I think it's a different question.
Prospect is Reese.
Player is Jeremiah Love.
but he's a running back coming out of Notre Dame.
I think he's just a stud.
Oh, man.
You think about like NFL films, right?
With the music going with that camera view from behind the defenses,
they're running like a freight train.
It's like this combination of like poetry and beauty with the music going behind,
but also like just like devastation of running through tacklers.
That's what Jeremiah love is.
He's got this like kind of the weave.
in and out the contact balance. You see that long run, obviously, the college playoff a year ago.
He's got all the tools, whether you're going back to like Eric Dickerson or, you know, like the Emmett
Smith, but he's faster than Emmett. If you go to Mod Bijjan Robinson, like he's that caliber of
talent. Most teams I've talked to, if he's not one, he's two or three on their board. Problem is,
again, he's a running back. So maybe he falls to Kansas City and becomes a treasure there.
for the Chiefs at 9 or maybe the Saints
one pick earlier at 8.
Yeah, boy, we agree with that.
I could, there are certain teams here.
I mean, the Jets could trade down and, I mean,
they need multiple players, whereas Kansas City needs a specific
player.
You know, Tennessee Giants.
Could you see the Giants trading down?
Like if I said to you, this team specifically trades up or down,
What's a trade that seems feasible to you?
Here's the deal with this draft, Colin, right?
It is a really good draft.
And it's a lot better than some people may think
because the quarterback class isn't great.
So everyone's already talking about 2027 on the White House lawn
and how special that group's going to be with Arch
and Julian Seine and Dante Moore
and Brendan Sorsby and all these other quarterbacks, right?
This group is really talented at positions that matter
that we're reminded of
in the Super Bowl.
Like edge, interior defensive line.
Yeah.
Offensive tackle.
The wide receiver group is outstanding,
even though there's not maybe a Calvin Johnson in this class.
There are four guys that I think are day one impact starters in the league in
Carnell Tate from Ohio State,
Mackay Lemon from USC, Jordan Tyson from Arizona State, and Denzel Boston,
Boston from Washington.
But the issue is if you're trying to trade back,
and I'll be intrigued to see
does Tom Brady
Kubiak do they look at Mendoza and say
he's absolutely the guy
or do we want to trade out of this spot
to a Jets organization that might
want to move up or
or Cleveland potentially
do we want to trade out of this spot when we get closer to the draft
and load up for next year?
That's going to be one story line to fall.
The other is I don't know outside
who's trading up.
I can get this similar level
or caliber offensive tackle or edge or wide receiver or cornerback,
like later in the first early in the second,
is maybe I can get and pick eight or 12.
So that's going to be interesting.
I don't know if there's going to be a lot of movement in the first round this year.
Yeah.
You know, I look at Ty Simpson at Bama,
and I do think he has a pretty good arm,
but I've always believed you've got to have a wow trait.
Now, that's why I missed on Kyler Murray because I thought he had a wow elusiveness.
And I thought because of a baseball player, the sliding, the elusiveness, the quick release.
I was like, oh, that's a loose.
And he hasn't been that.
So I missed on that.
I thought he would be better.
I thought his trajectory was up.
And then stuff that I didn't know about.
I look at Ty Simpson and I'm like, boy, they had a great offensive coach.
They had great wide receivers.
They couldn't run the ball.
So he, you know, he had an unbalanced offense.
what is the trait with him that Todd McShay goes,
that's a franchise guy.
Is it the arm strength?
It's not a physical trait.
And he's got two strikes against him, right?
Because I do believe in what's the physical trait that's excellent, that's different.
And he doesn't have the physical trait.
The other part is the 15 starts, man.
It is, it's real.
We've talked about it before on this show.
There are a couple guys who are super,
superhuman that have 25 starts that are great in the league, Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen.
He's not that. Bryce Young will see. The verdict's still out, played really well down the stretch
this year and you can see some positive things. He's in that like 28, 29 starts coming out
to college. Everyone else is like 34 starts or more. And so those are two strikes right there.
The thing I will say with Ty, and I'm probably more on board with Ty Simpson than a lot of other
people. If you go back and I can't wait for coaches to get involved, OCs, quarterback coaches,
head coaches that are offensive-minded, you watch the first nine games of the season.
Mendoza was really good. Ty Simpson was the best quarterback in college football. Processing,
ballout, anticipation, had receivers. Ryan Williams is supposed to be as good as Jeremiah
Love at Ohio State drops. He's got like the yips, man. Like he disappeared. So he's got Jeremy
Bernard, who's a really good player, is his only, like, reliable, consistent target for a while.
Run game.
I think they finished like 126 or 18.
Like, how was that Alabama?
And then they faced Venables, Brent Venables, defensive-minded head coach for Oklahoma,
and they were able to show, okay, here's how you beat his protections.
So now I'm behind the line, and everyone after that followed and, you know, fell in suit.
Now I'm behind a line that's not protecting me great.
I'm banged up.
I don't have a run game.
And my best wide receivers decided to disappear.
I'm telling you, this guy's got something in him.
Coach's son, dad's been a lifelong coach,
18 years he's been the head coach at Middle Tennessee State.
He's different than some of those other young,
immature guys that have come out with the fewer than 20 starts.
So I could see him being the exception to the rule.
But I don't know that it's going to be,
I think with McVeigh,
with one year behind Stafford, let's say,
in that offensive system with a coach's son's mind,
I think that could work.
I put him at 13 in this mock draft.
As of right now, I don't think that that's going to happen,
but wait for it.
Like, too many, I've been doing this two and a half decades
as we get closer without other quarterbacks,
someone's going to rise.
And I can see Ty winning over a lot of coaches in those meetings.
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Let's go back to the Super Bowl, wrap it up with this, Sam Darnold.
Listen, when he was in Carolina, and it wasn't working, I was like, I don't know if it's going
work. I really like him.
But I just thought, I mean, size, arm, athletic ability, leadership, toughness.
Like, it's just too many things, too many boxes get checked.
Where were you on Darnold when he was, it was man overboard in New York?
I have a show that's twice a week, the McShay show, right?
And on Monday, we released Mach 2.0, so I didn't really get into it.
I haven't had my bleep you tour like you've, like you've been able to have with Sam Darnel.
I mean, he was in my mind, and I put it, like, I planted that flag on Donald in a class that obviously had a lot of talented quarterbacks, including Josh Allen, Baker Mayfield, Josh Rosen at the time, and Lamar Jackson, right?
I saw something in Sam that I thought was special.
The creativity, the arm, enough mobility in the pocket, aggressiveness.
And I knew the turnovers were an issue, but I thought in the right, you.
you know, coach the right way with the right supporting cast,
we could see something like we're seeing now.
And was he brilliant in the Super Bowl?
No, but he was brilliant and got him there in the NFC championship game.
And here's the thing.
And I'm going to go on a tangent here real quickly.
Two things came to mind is one, stay true to your evaluation.
It's about the talent, but also you've got to figure out what's here,
and you got to figure out what's here.
The mind and like that toughness, the heart, all that.
I saw all those things in Sam.
The other thing is I get so tired of listening to people around draft season saying,
well, if you tell me where he goes, I'll tell you how he's going to be.
We don't put enough emphasis on where he lands and too much emphasis on the player.
It ain't my job, man.
Talent up here and down there.
And Sam Darnold was the best player in that class, in my opinion.
Now, Josh Allen has developed more than I thought he would,
and Lamar has developed more than I thought he would.
All three are phenomenal.
player. So is Baker. But I always saw this in Sam. And so this is my little chance to, like,
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all the people that were just ripping me during his jets and Panthers Day. So I'm waiting on
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All right, man. I appreciate it. Talk to you soon.
Yeah. It's
the Arvel
is an interesting player.
You know, like he's what he's going to do in the NFL.
He may not be currently doing now.
That was,
I like Bain from Miami.
Like that game just translates.
I think both those early Miami guys,
hurricanes are really good day one.
Carnell Tate's another one.
Really good day one.
But it's a good draft.
Good receivers, good tackles,
good edge rushers.
And again,
I think I like Mendoza.
He wasn't the best quarterback in college.
football in the first month. He was in the first month or two. He was in the last two, three months.
I think a lot of that is his ability to improve and be coachable and listen and lead.
And he's not going to wow you with his athletic stuff, but may seem big and athletic
and coachable and a leader and tough and gets popped. And I like him. I think he's really good.
He may not be an A plus plus, but I think Mendels is a really good, really, really good
high-end quarterback prospect.
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So we haven't talked about your guide, Caleb Williams.
It's been like two weeks, the Sam Darno Love Fest.
I wonder if Caleb is not feeling the love, but man, what a good season he had under
Ben Johnson.
Just tremendous upside for Caleb and Ben Johnson together.
Well, Bears legend, Brian Erlacker, love what he saw from Caleb, adding
that he should be in Chicago's future for the next 20 years.
I think that's a little rich.
But we did pull together some stats here, Colin,
in the last 15 starts, Caleb and Ben Johnson.
11 and 4, 255 yards per game.
Look at the touchdown interception ratio.
He was exceptional.
And you can only say they're just scratching the surface.
This is year one.
We believe, you and I believe,
Seattle and the Rams were the two best teams in the league.
Yeah.
I think Chicago's got an argument with about
four other teams, depending on the Sunday, with Caleb Williams' growth, is Chicago third.
They gave the RAM.
I mean, the Rams remember, no penalties, no turnovers, didn't drop a pass.
Maybe it may have had a one penalty.
Rams played perfect in Chicago.
You know, in Green Bay, again, last time they beat, they beat Green Bay.
If you start looking at the third best team in this league, you say, oh, Philadelphia, Ben Johnson's a better.
coach. Caleb's a better quarterback than Jalen Hurts Nick Sariani. I don't think that. Caleb will be better.
Is he better now? Oh, God. Go look at the numbers. He can throw over the middle. He can see.
Super Bowl MVP. I don't think it's wild to say Caleb Williams is on a short list. If I said to you,
by Thanksgiving, Caleb Williams top five quarterback, that's not a reach. That feels I thought at the end.
are basically cemented, right?
We would agree.
The big food.
Five has been open.
I thought it was hurts
after the Super Bowl MVP
when he was great.
Some people thought
Jayden Daniels.
Justin Herbert's always been lingering.
But we have new information on Jayden.
He struggles to stay healthy.
That's new information.
He's got hurt last year.
Boy, I've been hurt.
First year.
Dinged up.
Yeah, I mean, so there's new information
on Jalen Hertz.
He's not great in the room.
He really struggled seeing the field.
There's new information on Kyler Murray
a couple years ago.
He's not really.
I mean, so this idea that I get new information and don't change my opinion,
if you're a pilot, there's a lightning storm, 28 miles out.
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You get new information.
I got new information on the Patriots.
They stink against good teams.
Well, that's a bridge too far for you.
All right, let's go to the next story.
Colin, I love this preface.
Okay, so the Seahawks entered the season as a massive 60-to-one underdog to win the Super Bowl.
So our staff found out the newest Super Bowl odds for next season.
Super Bowl 61.
Now, obviously, we have the draft and free agency.
Here are the top Super Bowl odds.
Rams and Seahawks are tied for the best Super Bowl odds next year.
Followed by the bills, no surprise.
I think Patriots are way too high.
Eagles are up there and the Ravens.
I don't know what they're doing there.
Here's my thing.
A year ago at this time,
If I had told you, hey, Seahawks, you got to bet on them to win the Super Bowl, you would have laughed, and you did like them.
So, Colin, for me, I'm looking at, okay, so who are some long shots?
Chargers.
That's not a bad one.
I don't know if their defense losing Minter is going to be as good.
I don't think their defense will be as good.
I think their offense will be significantly better.
They have a ton of cap space.
They really like the receiver, Trey Harris.
The tackles come back.
Upgraded O.C.
I think the Chargers are the Seahawks.
Okay, I'm going to give you one.
Now, just remember if anybody had said Seattle a year ago, you would have been, come on.
Sam Darnold, the Viking just kicked him to the curb.
All right.
I'm ready.
Okay.
So looking at cheap quarterback with upside, cheap quarterback with upside.
Amazing defense, great defensive coordinator who is in high demand.
Okay.
And they're 60 to 1 right now.
And that's a Minnesota Vikings.
Oh, come on.
See, I knew you do that.
Why wouldn't I say Denver?
Denver's not 60 to 1.
They're going to be one of the favorites.
Well, we know the favorites don't deliver.
Denver is a good bet to me.
Cheap quarterback, great coach, excellent pass rush.
Denver is going to be really good.
I'm just going to remind you who just made the Super Bowl.
Drake May, after last, Drake May's rookie year, nobody would have said that's the team, I think.
Well, if you're going to give me a long shot, what are the bears?
Bears are not a long shot.
Broncos, by the way, are 1800.
That's not a long shot.
Okay, what are the bears?
60 to 1.
Okay, well, that's an outlier.
What are the bears?
So the Seahawks are an outlier.
What are the bears?
Bears are 25 to 1.
Oh, I'm going to, I'm going to bet a lot on Chicago.
I don't hate that.
25, I can get 25 to one of the bears.
Yeah, and you know.
You know, my son's got another year of college.
I think it's time to roll the 5, 2, 9.
Take it to Vegas.
Why you sell some jet skis by Bears' futures?
Bears at 25 to 1 is a bargain.
Right.
But again, so you.
You scoff at Vikings 60 to 1, right?
You just say absolutely no sound.
I wouldn't put a nickel on that.
Okay.
Ryan Flores is back in Minnesota.
Who's the quarterback?
JJ.
Maybe Aaron Rogers.
I think Aaron Rogers.
No, I don't want JJ.
He'll be fine.
Kevin O'Connell.
Can I bet Aaron Rogers to the Vikings on any platform?
I mean, I'll take your money.
I'll book your action.
Oh, you'll book.
Final stories to the NBA.
Listen, this should have been first hour story call.
This is spicy.
Last night, James Hardin and Darius, not Darius Scarlett,
James Hardin and Donovan Mitchell went off and beat Yokic in Denver,
a great win, a monster fourth quarter.
Listen, Hardin and Mitchell all of a sudden is a dynamic back court.
You could stop one, but you can't stop both.
Colin, after the game, Donovan Mitchell talked about integrating Hardin into the offense.
Gene found something that he liked when they played the offense.
Him and J.M.
He would phenomenal.
Obviously, Sam, Jalen, and then it's tough.
you know, to pick. Do you guard him? Do you guard me? Do you help off Sam?
Like, there's so many different things. Jaylin hits a big,
their top of the key. Jay is getting his flovers. I come down
throw Jay and love. Like, there's so many different things that we found
and we still haven't practiced.
We're just hooping off vibes right now. Like, you know what I'm saying? Just figuring it out.
I like Donovan Mitchell. I think this is a...
They won by two. I don't think the Nuggets are a great
defensive backcourt. Well, they don't have Aaron Gordon still,
but that's a great win. Nuggets fans are irate at the coach.
for not playing Yokic more.
He's on like still a minute's restriction.
He just came off an injury.
Yeah, well, you didn't give that
leniency to Austin Reeves.
Also, you're not, you don't,
how do you scout guys that haven't played together?
This is one of these, Denver's like,
we have to watch them play because we don't know what they want to do.
So give me your top three in the east right now.
Detroit, Celtics, Knicks.
What's your,
I don't know what's going on with Jason Tate.
There's so much chatter that he may come back,
30 games, but I hope he doesn't force it,
but I think the calves are a dangerous.
in a seven-game series, give me the Cabs over the Pistons.
You fell for James Hardin.
You fell for the Caves last year.
Well, I didn't fall for it.
They were number one, I know, I know.
They were a good team.
Yeah, I got Nick's Cabs in the conference finals.
No Pistons?
No Pistons.
Fools Gold, my friend.
Sorry, Kate.
I like Cade.
Yeah, I don't buy that at all.
They defend.
James Hardin, you know what he's going to do in the post season.
I do.
Not get the whistle and complain.
J. Mack with the news.
Well, that's the news.
And thanks for stopping by.
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What's the news, new?
Huge news.
We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas.
We invented a podcast?
Well, we didn't invent it.
We just contributed to...
We're the first people to do podcasts.
Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there.
But this one's extra special.
So how did we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys?
I honestly don't remember.
I think it was on a call about what we should call it.
Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band.
Before Jonas Brothers was...
This is how you guys remember it going down?
Yes.
I have a very different memory of this.
We were talking about a thing.
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Steve Nash will get that thing.
That man, hell get the flying.
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Well, Clint Kubiak just took over as the Raiders' latest head coach.
We've seen this year a team that rarely replaces a coach, the Pittsburgh Steelers hire Mike McCarthy,
and a team that regularly does the Raiders choose an offensive guy replacing an Antonio
Pierce or a Pete Carroll, and here's Clint Kubiak.
The main thing is, this is no ordinary job.
You know, this is the silver and black.
This is the Raiders.
This is a historic franchise.
It's something that I'm very excited for.
You know, when you say commitment to excellence,
and you look at the walls around here,
you look at the players on this wall,
and there's a history of Hall of Fame players here.
There's a history of Super Bowls.
And that's what the ultimate goal is,
but you have to be about the work if you want to get there.
Yeah, I mean, if they were in an easier division, I could see them double in their wins easily.
This is the first time and a long time between the quarterback, the offensive coach, Bowers, they'll get Colton Miller back.
They were all banged up last year.
Aston Gentie, draft another running back.
You know, we talked about maybe a Rashid's Heid.
You know, can they go out and get a deep threat?
I think they need a volume receiver.
but the Raiders, again, if they were in the NFC South or AFC South,
I'd say they could win 10 games.
I don't know if they're there.
I like Mendoza a lot.
So, SpyTech, the GM, I think you got a shot here.
He's an impressive guy.
Immediately, though, the Sam Darnold is now going to fall off the flat earth.
Everybody's now bailing on their Sam Darnold.
And I said this.
The AFC's got the best quarterbacks.
The NFC's got the best roster.
But what do we do with Sam Darnold in the NFC now?
You tell me, who would you take it quarterback over the next three years?
Nick Wright came on two hours ago and addressed that real question.
If the question is, hey, NFC quarterbacks you want for the next three to five years,
Stafford's out of it, and then it becomes, like, would I rather have Darnold or hurts?
I would rather have Darnold.
Would I rather have Darnold or Purdy?
I would rather have Darnold.
Dak is a question.
I think Dack has shown more,
but Dack has never had anything close
to the NFC championship game Darnold just had, and he's older.
So then it becomes Darnold against the younger guys.
Darnold or golf, that's a coin flip to me.
And then the younger guy is Caleb, Jaden, Jordan Love,
who's about his age but feels youngs didn't play much.
So those are all debates.
I mean, if you look at DAC and Darnold,
Darnold has a better arm, and Darnold's more athletic.
I would take Darnold.
And I like Dack, but what do I talk about?
Traits.
Well, Darnold's got a bigger arm than Dack.
And Darnold's more athletic.
And Darnold doesn't have as many injuries.
So, and I like that.
But, I mean, the last month of playoff football,
well, I mean, Donald has a great team.
Well, you weren't saying that when the season started.
You weren't saying Darnold could win the Super Bowl.
So they're there.
I mean, Caleb Williams has a stronger arm than Donald and is more athletic.
I think you can say, and that tells you how great.
Caleb is.
Josh Allen's probably got more horsepower.
There's a couple of guys with more horsepower.
Not a lot.
Not a lot than Donald.
He's big, strong moves, arm.
He's got big time talent.
Not Josh Allen, not Caleb Williams.
But then he's in a class of that, you know, maybe not Mahomes.
and we start at four or five, and then you're like, no, no, he is better than most of these guys.
Well, Jalen hurts.
Jalen's not as good in the pocket, and Jalen doesn't have the arm of Sam Darnold.
So he's a really good player.
It is interesting, though.
People are already immediately discrediting him.
Well, he didn't do much in the big game.
Well, he's losing Clint Kubiak.
Can we just admit, since November 27th of, what, 2022, when he was benched by Carolina,
came back, got the starting job.
from that point forward
he's
got the highest winning percentage in the league
with four teams
Carolina San Francisco and Minnesota Seattle
there's a lot of coaches a lot of coordinators
a lot of teammates I thought Christian McCaffrey
said it this week at the Super Bowl J-Mack I don't know if you heard that
Christian McCaffrey said I've played with him twice
my first takeaway is
dude that's one of the best players
I've ever played with and he played with Luke
Keeckley
yeah heard it
what was your response to it?
Well, I mean, I also heard him come on our show and gas up Brock Purdy
greatly.
I think he defended Brockford.
Oh, come.
I wouldn't say he went overboard.
Listen, I get it.
I wish my wife loved me as much as you love Sam Darnold.
I mean, goodness gracious.
I'll stop here.
I mean, I've gone to maybe a little overboard.
Maybe not.
Put up the Super Bowl odds again.
I thought that were very accurate.
I think the Chargers are going to move.
Denver and the Chargers feel like top six or seven.
They've got New England.
But the value, Colin, is in teams that did not make the playoffs,
a.k.a. Seattle and New England.
Like the Ravens, to me, and I like a rookie head coach.
Lamar wants a new contract.
That's not a Super Bowl team.
They don't have a lot of good players on that roster.
Well, they had six pro bowlers.
Okay. And what's going to happen next year?
Are they all going to be back?
I mean, I don't know.
Kyle Hamilton will be.
One or two standouts on defense. That's it.
Are you sure they had six pro bowlers?
I think they.
Derek Henry.
Sorry, timeout.
Pro Bowl doesn't matter.
Shadour Sanders was in the Pro Bowl.
Just because Shadour made it doesn't mean it doesn't matter.
I mean, the Patriots couldn't have anybody in the Pro Bowl.
The Broncos couldn't because of their playoff game.
So, like, I'm not, let's not go to Pro Bowl.
I just don't think the Ravens have a talented roster.
Ravens, League High.
Oh, my bad.
Nine Pro Bowl.
Nine.
Okay.
You've got them being the Titans.
They've got nine Pro Bowl.
I mean, okay, they're not the Titans.
I just don't think they're.
I don't have a pro.
The Pro Bowl now is.
Isn't it some like competition or something?
It's nonsense.
Come on.
Well, we know that.
Yeah.
These Super Bowl odds, where are the bears?
Where are the Broncos?
Where are the chargers?
That to me, those are the three.
I would take those all over New England and Baltimore.
Where are the Vikings?
New York Giants.
A hundred to one.
Wow.
There's one for you.
You love the Giants.
You said they're doubling their win total.
From four to eight.
I didn't say.
You're cheating John Harbaugh like he's split
And I'm serious.
I think the Bears at 25 to 1.
I don't hate that.
Your kids don't need college.
They could easily do a vocational school.
Don't go crazy on a 5-29.
Yeah.
A lot of good jobs down the block.
Kids need to work hard these days.
What are the Jaguars with your guy, Liam Cohen?
Interesting.
See you tomorrow.
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I'm Joe.
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We invented a podcast?
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We just contributed to it.
We're the first people to do podcasts.
We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions.
Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it, but, you know, tired and sick.
Tired and sick.
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It's our favorite time of the year on our podcast point game, the playoffs.
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If we didn't talk ever again, I was crying.
You just understood.
That's how personal it got.
Wow.
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