The Herd with Colin Cowherd - The Herd - Hour 3 - The NFL offseason

Episode Date: February 2, 2023

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Our guest has plenty of time. He's excellent. He's sitting on some big nuggets here. We'll go to LeBron James first. 89 points away from the all-time scoring record. After the win on Tuesday, he was asked how he's feeling about approaching the historic mark. And he also gave some insight to how much longer LeBron's career is going to end up lasting. It's not getting heavier because it's just a matter of time and when I'm going to do it.

But, yeah, so it's not going to get heavy. I'm not going to be in his lead for at least a few more years. so I'm going to do it, so I'm not, it's not heavy at all. When he's healthy, he's good. The other night thing. I mean, that Boston game, I think they asked him to play 44 minutes. It's like, could you give him some help? He's going to have every NBA record that matters.

It's like Brady's got every NFL record that matters. Yeah. I mean, it's his durability and his health. And, you know, I saw a story yesterday, and I apologize for not giving somebody credit for it because I thought it was fascinating, but I skimmed over it. And I thought it was really smart. They said, he's going to become the all-time.

points leader, and he doesn't have a go-to shot. And I thought, that is fascinating. Jordan had about three stock moves. You know, Kareem, obvious. I mean, I can sit in my head and think of Jordan's moves. Carl Malone, the pick and roll with Stockton. I mean, Dirk Novitsky, the fall away with his knee up. Tim Duncan off the glass, you know, 12-footer off the glass.

I can think of all. Kobe Bryant loved the angle, had good range. Steph Curry, top of the circle. Lucas got moves. You know. Lucas' step back is unstoppable. But LeBron's just the Swiss Army knife. Yeah.

He was very quick. LeBron was very smart. He was very quick. It was at the end of his Cleveland run before he got to Miami. You know, this is LeBron. He started really refining his three-point game because when LeBron broke into the league, I remember telling people that his game is boring. he was so physically great, but he was a freight train.

He was just like big, fast, strong blocking shots off the backboard. And then about halfway through Cleveland, he became a better defensive player. And he really started, before the league shifted to a three-point league, he really started becoming a much better long-distance shooter. Now, he still is hitting miss on that. He has bad stretches. And when he has bad stretches, he goes back to the rim. I think he's 31% from deep right now.

And he's never been a great three-point shooter, but he gets hot. And when he loses it, then he goes back to the rim. Because he knows he can dominate down the way. You can't stay in front of him. Year 20, you can't. I don't know. I just would take umbrage with the word boring and LeBron James. Well, no, I'm just saying at first when he came into the, that's a bad word.

But his game was very power base. Yeah, dominant. Yeah. But if I said to you, what is your shot for, what, if I say LeBron, what's his shot? I think he could pretty much get any shot he wants because he's a freight train. But I don't think of him on the baseline. No. I think of him.

I think of LeBron driving to the basket. And scoring or getting in right-handed, driving to the basket. You can't stop him. He's too big, fast, and strong. Is this a knock? No, no, no. Almost every great score has a shot or two. And LeBron doesn't.

What was Carl Malone's? Pick and roll was stocked and he scored almost all his points. Yeah, mid-range jumper. What is that? Chris Paul, mid-range jumper. Yeah, he's the king of the elbow. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, let's move on. Cardinals. Oh, this is good, Colin. So the Arizona Cardinals are still interviewing options for their head coaching job. Really, there's been no traction. And according to one report, the search is taking longer due to Kyler Murray's contract.

Sure. Many desired candidates reportedly don't want to take the job knowing they're tied to Kyler Marie for the next four seasons. It's a real thing. There's a lot of drama. At least Russell Wilson, like Sean Payton and I talked about this, at least, Russell. You know, he cares about winning. He's all in. He's obsessed with winning. They just got to get Russell right. But you know, Russell's heart, Russell wants to win. Russell Wilson wants to win. He wants a great legacy. With Kyler, he may, but nobody's sure. He's not real verbal. He kind of hides. We got the addendum to his contract. It's, and I've defended Kyler Murray, but there's a lot of mystery here. Any coach that goes in is going to lose that power struggle against Kyler Murray. He's a franchise quarterback. We're paying him a lot.

He ain't going anywhere. So this is not an attractive job. This could be a team that looks at, not tanking because they would never announce that. But hey, let's just not put out a competitive roster. No, no, no. Be very bad. Get Caleb Williams, and then we can move off Kyler as soon as possible. I think this, I think that's very possible because you could say that Tampa's going to tank,

but the division's so awful you can win four or five games in division. So San Francisco, Seattle, with their bevy of picks, and the Rams, be better. Healthy Rams. So if Kyler's not going to play until week seven or eight, just extend it to week 10, if you draft Caleb, you don't have to pay him anything. You could try to move off Kyle. And you just say, hey, Kyler, we're going to, we'll take the dead cap hit for two or three years. Somebody will take Kyler Murray. I think it's, that's one of those where it's. It's crazy how fast we've come around on him. Like in under five months, he's gone from, hey, made the playoffs he's ascending he's really he's a good quarterback he's like a top 10ish quarterback to

nobody wants anything to do i i heard um one of the things that is almost always institutionally true how does great erode it's always ego even if there's a cultural change in our business so we're in cable right right oh streaming fox is making a fortune espn still wildly profitable oh the newspaper business culturally nobody reads the newspaper new york times has never made more money even if they're the airline industry you know during the reagan time the airlines are still very profitable southwest is right was maybe they had a bad ending the point is even with a massive cultural change if you're well run newspapers i've been i've been told newspapers are going to die for 15 20 years wall street journal washington post new york times make a fortune so the only way

that really dynamic, successful people or businesses die isn't cultural changes. It's ego. It is inattentive, arrogance, we're smarter than the market, and this is Arizona. Kyler has, Kyler's ego, you know, he's not willing to be coached hard. Three guys who are going to be at the Super Bowl, doing media, radio row, JJ Watt,

Buda Baker, and Larry Fitzgerald. If anyone can get them to talk off the record about what Kyler Marie's been doing in that organization, organization, it's not going to paint a pretty picture. Colin, this guy whose mom still does his laundry. Well, that's okay. He's not mature. No, it's not.

You've got to grow up, man. He's playing video games. He's not studying the playbook. Colin, it's ugly. At least the stuff I've heard behind the scenes. My mom paid my car insurance until I was 24. You didn't have any money. You were a shock jock in Vegas, weren't you?

I didn't view myself as a shock jock. I was a local TV anchor. Local TV, Vegas. Save deal, right? Final story. My hair hasn't changed in literally. Before the NFC championship games, somebody put a 49ers jersey on the Rocky statue in Philly. It's become common for opposing fans to dress up Rocky.

Most of those teams have not been successful against the Eagles. The Kelsey Brothers on their popular podcast spoke about that trend. I'm convinced that there is a Philadelphia fan who is putting these shirts on the Rocky statue just to get everybody else. fire down. And it's working. It's working to medicine. So keep doing it. That's sick. Forty-nine is it. There's it. There's a year. No way. No way. Right now, Chiefs

do not touch the Rocky Memorial. Okay. Do not do that. All right. Definitely don't put an 87 on there. Do not do that. Interesting. He's got the Cincinnati Bearcats gear. I thought that was a shot at the Bengals. No. He went to Cincinnati. Yeah.

Just looked at a little. A couple gibronies in Cincinnati, but... Couple gibronies? You know, start with the head coach there? Oh, come on. Jay Mack with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by.

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podcasts. All right, Fox Sports Analyst, decade in the NFL, Mark Sanchez is listening to us go back and forth in all of our nonsense. We had all How about this? We got into this argument earlier today. It's a fascinating one.

Did I miss the haircut argument? Did I miss? Seahawk logo. Lieutenant Diane. Oscarie. Lieutenant Dayne. Go ahead. Sorry.

It looks good on you, though. When you're a quarterback, part of it is a willingness to sacrifice, right? No doubt. And I don't want to take money out of a pocket, but I said, we have a clear defining truth in the NFL. top five or six quarterback cap hit, you're not winning,

you're not getting a conference championship. So he said, what about Hertz and what about Burrow? And my takeaway is, I love them both, but I would, in both instances, I would take less so I could keep Jason Kelsey.

100%. So you believe. But the player has to believe in that. And then you also have to look at like, where's the trajectory of their career? I think there's other factors. Like, how long am I going to do this? How long am I going to be at the top of my game?

Have I had that been? payday where a team backs up to Brinks truck and gives you everything. You walk out of there with a wheelbarrow, wheelbarrow full of money. That's, you know, a dream, but part of that dream to make money and do the marketing stuff and, you know, be the face of the franchise and all those other things that also make you money is winning football games. Right. Right. So as long as that's your sole focus, and then the money stuff happens, and I think Hertz and Burrow are in a unique position where both of them are that kind of person. Look at Mahomes.

In a few years, he's going to be grossly, like drastically underpaid. That's right. Compared to the rest of the field. And there's going to be younger guys who have had maybe one or two really good seasons,

maybe not a Super Bowl ring, maybe not an MVP, but they're getting paid $10 to $15 million more than him, which sounds just crazy. But Brady did it for years. He was really the one to set the blueprint for that, saying, hey, dude, take a couple extra,

get me some wideouts, get me some ballers on defense that are going to give me the full. football back and give me more possessions, more shots on target, more attempts, and let's go, let's go handle this thing. And that's really the mentality. And, you know, credit to Tom for setting that bar. So I, I believe it was harder to do that years ago, but two reasons it's easier. One, star quarterbacks now have never been more popular in our sports. Their royalty. No doubt. Basketball stars and quarterbacks are royalty.

They now make seven figures on social. Football players, I read something. Mahomes had 32 endorsements. I can remember Donovan McNabb getting a Campbell chunky soup out. Oh, that was good with his mom. Yes. Yeah, those are awesome. It was the only one out there.

I didn't see it. So it's like there is so much. And I've said this about, I love Steph Curry, but if you can get Wiggins, take less. No, no. There's a shoe deals. Yeah, it's real. But I don't want to.

It's just not enough space. right there's only there's one football to go around there's only so much money to go around like guys this is where we're at here's did you ever lose a teammate with the jets and you knew oh crap we're not going to be as good uh i think this is actually funny i McConnell's now the kevin o'connells the head coached the viking yeah yeah yeah but i remember standing on the desk in tannibom's office saying take money out of my contract we need him on the team he helps us too much i don't care so my age is like what the hell are you doing negotiating a contract. I said, dude, we need it. We'll figure it out, move the money around. I don't care. Defer payment, whatever. Just figure it out. We need them on the roster for our room.

You know, those kind of things, you know when players add value, whether they're starting, whether they're a coach, whatever. And you do your best to keep the guys that you have, especially when you're close or you can kind of taste it and feel it. And you're like, God, we're right there, boys, like, keep this as close as we can. And I'm, Unfortunately, you know, there's just so much turnover every single year. Yeah. But you see teams that keep it consistent. Look at the Chiefs.

You know, look at the Eagles the last year. So, like, they're a tough group, and they keep coming back. And you've got to keep the nucleus and those important pieces. Try not to lose them all right away. What will you, you know, there's so many memories about Brady and you faced him and beat him in games. What is sort of your lasting memory of facing Tom and just Tom? When I say Brady, what do you think? Nobody's done it better.

Nobody's been so consistent at the mundane and the boring without getting bored. Nobody's been so in some ways, like, maniacal about it. And he is this relentless competitor. He is, you know, I've said that I don't think you ever rise to the occasion. I don't think you're suddenly bigger, stronger, faster, suddenly smarter, more accurate, or anything in these big moments, you sink to the level of your training. And you could tell what his training was. Wow. And that's like a military thing.

Like you don't just suddenly know how to handle all these crazy situations. You just go back to what you know and who you are and how hard you've worked. And it will show up. And, I mean, the footwork stuff, the working out in your pads and the off season, throwing in your pads and the offseason, and like until like random videos came out of that like nobody ever did that nobody that nobody that i knew did that i didn't and you think about it you're like well yeah why aren't we doing that you know why i throw with my pads on on sunday i need to throw with my pads on sure you can play seven on and do stuff to get through reads and learn a playbook and all that and get time on task

but if you're really working if you're really working your mechanics and working your arm strength and you know your your biomechanics of a thrower you got to do what he does and it's It's so incredible to see his dedication to that. And he had to get bored at times, but he still went through his same routine. You know, the sacrifice, you talk about sacrificing money to get players on the team in your contract. Talk about the sacrifices he's made diet-wise. How about sacrifices he's made with, you know, his social life, his family life, things that have, you know, he's kind of put to the side and then, boom, laser focus on this thing for 23 years.

hell yeah, he's the best. And that's part of it is the way he approached it. And, you know, we just, we'll try and take it easy on him here at Fox and not haze him too bad when he gets in. Did he, um, did he ever say anything to you when you go to Foxborough that he kind of try to intimidate you along? No, he didn't have to do much. And that was kind of the thing. Like, he didn't really say much. He wasn't like a trash talk or anything. He'd wear, I told you about how he wore out referees and stuff. I think that's the funniest thing ever. But, um, that's just how competitive he is. But I think the mystique and mystery around him, before like the whole TB12 thing launched, before he started, you know, sharing information about his diet, his workout routine,

the pliability stuff that he does with his trainer and all that. Before that, like, you didn't know what the guy did in the offseason. You just know he came back and he was like this monster, just like this machine. Right. And all he did was torch defenses, you know, just carve him up. And so So that kind of like, like he worked out right here at UCLA, but you could like never see it. Yeah. He never knew. Right. Nobody got the invite other than people that were on the team.

You know, he didn't give away anything. And, you know, a lot like Kobe, a lot like Michael Jordan until later in their career when they put their arm around another guy and, you know, help guys in the offseason, start to give away secrets. They write a book. They do this, whatever. Then they kind of let you in. But, dude, that's, that circle was tight, you know? And so that kind of mystique to other people is like, sometimes even scarier or there's even a bigger aura around it than somebody who's in your face trying

to intimidate you because sometimes you can just get desensitized to that. You know, that was kind of like a, ooh, what is he doing over there? Yeah, mystery is intimidating. Oh, it was, it was wild, but that, uh, just the whole Patriots mentality and, and having to play against those guys. And it was, uh, it was something else. You just had to be right. You knew you had to be right.

Because you gave, you gave them anything, they'd make you pay. So, Kellyn Moore, we did this the other day. We had a graph. So of all the quarterbacks that started games under him, it was from Ben Danuzzi, Andy Dalton, Danucci, Cooper Rush, Dak Prescott. It was kind of a jumble I of different guys. With Kellan Moore as the coordinator,

they were like second in points, second in yards per drive, all these stats. And it's like, Kellan's good. It's unique about him because, Normally, you get a coordinator who's had one guy for a long time, and that's all you can base it off of. And it's that one guy with other guys that have been there or a running back that has been there and is kind of hard to judge. And you see when this whole free agency thing takes off every year, there's certain guys that, you know, players can be like system guys and they need the other parts of that system to make them successful. They go somewhere else and people are like, why do we waste all those draft picks on that guy?

Why do we pay all our money to that guy? We just didn't fit in the system. For him, now this is a very different sample size, a much smaller sample size, but he's got multiple quarterbacks who've been successful with his system. That means he's doing something right. Somebody like Andy Reid, I mean, go back to Kevin Cobb, Michael Vic, Donovan McNabb, who nobody wanted, right? And he made him the quarterback.

He made him a successful quarterback. Got him to a Super Bowl, won NFC championship games. the pedigree that Andy Reid has had, that's the mark of a really good coordinator, a guy who when he walks in the room with his quarterback, whether you like the quarterback or not, whether you like his style or not, whether you agree with the decision or not, you will do everything in your power to make that guy successful. And Andy Reid was like really one of the reasons for all those guys doing that. Kellan, now once again, much smaller sample size, but you're seeing it. You're starting to see it. And now Justin Herbert, you get a guy with that talent. Andy Reid, you get a guy with Mahomes talent.

Like, holy cow, if he could do it for these guys, what's the difference in that guy? And this guy's an absolute freak of nature. So now look out with that roster, that's something. Justin's best year was the Shane Steichen year. I mean, Kellan's going to do just fine. I think that's a great move for him. There's no surprise. It was like, okay, Dallas says you're out.

Literally, he job the next day. Same with Andy Reed. Less than eight hours. Exactly. So when you know, you know, and when it's one of those guys who can call plays and dial them up, right sequence. Doesn't matter who's the trigger man for me. I can dial up plays.

That's special. So I know Sean Payton pretty well because he spent like 15 Mondays on the show. Oh, man. Super smart guy. I'm sad with a loser. I barely got to hang with him here. No, he's great. So you go to, I said the Denver job's weird.

You don't have a weird ownership group. It's like the richest. Oh. Their roster. I went and looked on PFF grades. Well, they got players. The cupboards aren't. over there.

You got everything you want. Some are like emerging young stars. Oh, yeah. They got to clean the O line up a little. It's not as bad as people think. It's mostly a Russell thing. Let's get this right. So Russell, you are mobile, but

Russell is hyper-mobile. Oh, he can move way better than that. But does that make it harder? Because from Breeze to really a guy that plays basketball on grass at his best? No, I think what's great for Russell is he's been able to extend plays, and that's been really his mojo, his it factor, his something, right?

When things break down, boom, the guy's nails. Now, when you've dialed up a great play action or something's open, one or two is open, you know, the guy's generally going to hit it. Like he did it. His whole career in Seattle, they had a great run game, the play action stuff, he was nails. But his special thing, his X factor, was extending plays and making you pay when he's on the run. He makes somebody look silly, breaks an ankle, and then, boom, throws a ball right behind your head. Sean Payton is one of the best pocket passing coaches.

Like, I mean, you count those, he's top 10 easily, right? Like, he can get guys to complete balls from the pocket. Guys that are six foot, six one, Drew Breeze. Now, is Russell Wilson the processor of Drew Breeze? I don't know. Sean will know, but he's going to get the best out of him from the pocket. It's not just going to be, you know, a completely different, hey, run around and find somebody open, you know, street ball, stand, go next to the blue Cadillac and turn around. I think there's going to be a real process here.

And if anything, this will be the best type of development for Russ, because that's never been his strong suit. He's never been an absolute killer from the pocket. He's now associated with and directly in communication with one of the best at getting the best out of pocket passers. So I think this is perfect for him to get better at what one of his maybe deficiencies are. So I think, you know, if anybody can do it, it's this guy. He's sharp, man.

And you can tell, he was Joneson. Just watching him on Sunday and stuff and hearing him here, like the stories, like you could tell. He's a lifer, man, and he loves ball, and that's going to be really fun to watch. Stick around with Mark. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. Two NBA insiders podcasting twice a week

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Listen to stuff to blow your mind on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Right, Mark Sanchez, 10 years in the NFL. You were the quarterback for the Jets in their last playoff one, 2010. I'm thinking about lifting. in the playoff curse from the J-MAC pretty soon here for J-MAC because I like Sala a lot. Everybody likes him. They do. Everybody likes it.

Just kidding. There's no curse, man. Okay. J-Mach's freaking out. It's been the longest drought in the league. I think they're tied with somebody. No, no. They're number one.

Oh, are they? 12 years. It's ugly. It's about time. I'll think about it. Hey, who hired Nathaniel Hack up, by the way. Sorry to hijack, cowherd. Was it Woody Johnson or the GM?

Who was it? Coach. Come on. I know you know stuff. I say nothing. Okay. I'll give you a quarterback. From a quarterback's perspective, weather, team, cap,

I'll just throw it out there. Jimmy Garapolo. I'd say his best spot for him would be with Josh McDaniel in Vegas. Good weapons? Great weapons. But I think that Rogers Domino has to fall first.

He won't get the first pick of the litter. You know what I mean? Like something's going to have to happen there. He knows the system. The Justin Fields domino is going to have to fall, and we'll know more of that leading up to the draft. If, you know, new GM, who knows what he wants? So if he moves around, then what?

That's going to really shake up some stuff. Then he goes to New York. Then Rogers can't go to New York. You know, guys are going to be, it's going to be like bumper cars. Josh McDaniels and Garoppolo, no one like you. I like it. And especially in that division, you've got a guy who knows your system, speaks the language, boom.

I mean, you're plug and play. Derek Carr. You know, before I thought New Orleans, I just don't know if that's a, I don't know if that's right for him. I do like the Carolina spot. I just think, yeah, Frank Reich. I think the, all those things matter. Those, there's factors that matter. And having a good defense is huge, would be huge for him.

He's never had one. Yeah, he's never had anybody that's just like locked down. Here's the ballback. And, you know, that spiritual alignment, you know, he's a, he's a, he's a, you know, like a strong Christian dude, and he wants, you know, same with Frank Reich. I think that's, those things are important to people and, and fitting in the right place and feeling appreciated and loved, especially when you're like cast off from somewhere and a little scorned, you know, a little burned. You just feel like, dang, man, like they didn't appreciate

me. And in some ways, you know, they might not have. And that can be his fire moving forward. And somebody like Frank Wright can stoke that fire. That could be a good one. They're going to need a little help on offense, though. I mean, obviously they lost McCaffrey. They got DJ more, but they need some help in the wide-out room. Yeah. That would be interesting. The, I don't think Aaron's going to retire. I think he's too good. There's too much money. Um, it's- But I think if you're smart and you're one of the teams, you've got to get to him. I know he mentioned that the other day, but I thought that would be just like an unwritten rule, like a no-brainer. Like, are you good coming here? because I don't want to get you here and then, you know, you just pull a retirement deal.

Like, we need to know you're good. And there's so many back channels with the way people talk in the NFL, like, they can figure that out. By the way, you mentioned the Justin Fields thing. I have somebody who I trust. We haven't talked about this on the show because I was going to wait a while, but he thinks Chicago is moving off Justin Fields and he feels strongly about it. See, that wouldn't shock me. I'm telling you what the people are like, are you kidding?

such a good player. He is. It has nothing to do with Justin Fields and his toughness, ability, arm strength, the way he plays, it has nothing to do with that. If that is not your guy, and we're talking about polls, the GM. And the coach. Yeah, and the head coach. If he is not your guy, it doesn't matter. It could be Brett Farve. It could be, you know, some, you know, crazy generational talent, which Justin Fields is kind of proven to be with the way he can move around. If he's not your guy, he's not your guy. And if it's square peg round hole, you got to move on. And Justin's going to go be fine somewhere else because I guarantee you there's like at least 20 other teams that want the guy. So I think he'll be just fine, but that would be, you know, a shockwave

through everything and everybody would feel that ripple effect. Yeah. If you don't make the playoffs, one more question. You don't make the playoffs, your season's done. What do guys do for the next month. Ugh, it's the worst. Why? Well, in New York, it was the worst, and this is probably just me and my situation personally, because the first two years were in the championship game, and we're right there. So you just think, okay, turn the page again, boom, we'll be right there.

This time we're going to win it. We'll get a shot in the Super Bowl. Well, we went 8 and 8th the third year, and it was the first time not having those postseason runs, and there was something empty, right? Like, I didn't go back to the playoffs until I was with the Cowboys, I think, later. 16 or something, Dax rookie year. And I wasn't even playing. So once you taste that and then it's gone, like I can only imagine guys who've played for five to 10 years and never go to the playoffs or only played in one playoff game. It makes me so grateful for what I've experienced because there's

like a void. All these other people are playing and you just feel like pretty empty. And people are all getting together to watch games. And you're like, I'm good. I don't, I don't really want to go to your house and answer questions and analyze a game that I think I should be playing in. Like, we should have won that game. That's what Bosa said yesterday. It's the worst. It's the worst. It's just a bad taste in your mouth and you can't wait till, you know, some guys are working out. Some guys are moving around, doing yoga, riding bikes, maybe not like hardcore lifting. Other guys start like a week after. You know the story of Brady. I mean, I can't wait for you to have him on here because I'm going to sit right here and ask him so many questions too.

But he would train all the way through the Super Bowl just so his body was. ready. Like on his own, they get eliminated, not usually, but in the divisional, in the championship game. He's working out until the Super Bowl's over and then takes a little break and then starts up again. So he's ready to go. I mean, that's crazy. It's pretty cool, but that's crazy. Mark Sanchez, you always bring such a great perspective. We're glad to have you on the team. We'll coax Brady to that chair once in. Come on. Come on, TV. That's right. Come on, TB. The other TV. We got Terry already. Okay, that's right.

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