The Herd with Colin Cowherd - THE HERD - Hour 3 - The One Place Lane Kiffin Should Leave Ole Miss For

Episode Date: November 19, 2025

Colin feels that Lane Kiffin should either stay at Ole Miss or go to the NFL. Steve Sarkisian gets fiery in response to rumors of him leaving Texas. Former NFL OL Brian Baldinger joins Colin to preview Shedeur Sanders' first NFL start and look ahead to the rest of Week 12.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Works for the NFL network. There's a really good job of breaking down. I said this three or four years ago. It just popped off the internet. I was watching Baldi's breakdowns. And he's now at the NFL Films offices in the Northeast. So, you know, Quinn Williams, I said, Quinn and Williams is another. escape from New York

success story. Like coaches, players leave and they're just, that's why I said, watch Soss Gardner with a Colts over time.

It'll pay off. I look at Quinnon, and I was like, oh, that's the Robert Salon, Quinnon. That's an elite top five Interior D-Lineman. Many people thought he was regressing.

What did the tape say? Well, I mean, he had one sack with the Jets in the first eight games in season. He had a sack and a half and five quarterback hits, you know, just the other night against the Raiders.

I mean, they couldn't block them one-on-one. The Raiders should know that. It's not a good offensive line. But, you know, him and Kenny Clark and Genevian, and, you know, you add in Logan Wilson and Malik Hooker comes back and DeMarvian and overshone, all of a sudden, this defense might have a chance to be pretty good.

We'll find out against Philly this week. But, I mean, Jerry should be smiling because I think it was a good deal because Quentin can flat out play. He's just sick of losing is what he's sick of, be honest with me. But he's always been able to play. Do you, I said this, I'm more optimistic on the Cowboys because they don't need a quarterback and have two first round picks and people will trade up and overdraft quarterbacks. It's now what we do in the NFL. You just, even good GMs acknowledge, you're going to have to overdraft that position so they can manipulate the draft.

They'll go out and get a Caleb Downs, an edge rusher. And now with Kenny Clark and Quinn and Williams and Overshone, you're like, okay, that's a pretty good front seven. So I'm pretty high on them. A question is, when you watch the film on the Cowboys, C.D. Lamza 1, do they need to sign Pickens? Or it looks like to me, they've got a few of these guys who can run and catch. Do you feel Pickens is a guy despite his personality? Would you re-sign him, or do you think they're pretty stocked at receiver? I'd re-sign them.

I mean, they haven't had an ex-receiver like that, you know, maybe since Amari Cooper first came there. It's been a big void. And it really allows, you know, Brian Schottenheimer in the offense to move CD around where he's best in matchups in motion, the Z position. And so you can really line up a guy on the outside that take on the best corner in some cases. And then, you know, you have CD in the middle of the field

doing what he does because he's just so tough and skilled in there. I think I would resign him. He's having the best year of his career right now. And, you know, I think there's still a lot of good football. to be played this year from him. Yeah. I also think Dax's maturity is that he's dealt with

Des Bryant. Dack makes it easier to have a with a teammate with a big personality. He had Zeke. He had Des. Dax, you know, I always tend to think like that A.J.,

let's talk Eagles. The A.J. Brown drama, to me, would be worse if it wasn't Jalen Hertz, who's a Vegas used to call it a cooler. Somebody was hot at the table. Yeah, yeah. That's kind of a jail.

He's kind of a grown-up. He's got a high-ey-ey-ey-old. IQ, EQ. Philadelphia, it's interesting. They are not good when Lane Johnson doesn't play. Well, you know O'Line. He's a right tackle. What, I mean, right tackles aren't supposed to be that valuable.

What happens when he leaves? Because Jalen's five and nine without Lane starting. What do you make of that? Well, I mean, you just got to look at, you know, some of the edge rushers that go over the right tackle. I mean, you know, whether it was Von Miller's prime or T.J. you're seeing some of the best past rushes. Brian Burns.

You're seeing some of the best pass rushers in this league line up over the right tackle. Now, Fred Johnson is taking his place. No relation, by the way. But, you know, so they have, they've had some, like they lost the Jets one year, a couple of years ago when Lane got hurt in the first quarter, and Bryce Huff went nuts.

And they turned the ball over a bunch of the jets somehow beat the Eagles up at MetLife Stadium. So, I mean, there's great pass rushers over that position. But Lane doesn't get beat. He hasn't been beat once this whole year. Like he's just a complete lockdown elite talent. He's the best tackle in football and has been. And so when you have to take a step down from the very best, you know, it starts to look

a little bit normal some Sundays out there. So people are really mixed on Caleb Williams. Ben Johnson has created a run first team. They're good late. But even the people I bring on, like Matt Hasselbeck, I can tell it his voice. he's still not buying it. What concerns you with Caleb? Obviously the good stuff, the horsepower we can see.

When you break down Caleb, is there stuff that worries you still? He's evolving. He's never played under center before. You know, he's playing under center, and it's a big part of what they do. I mean, they run the ball from him under center. They probably play action pass as much as anybody. Maybe the Rams do a little bit more, but they play action pass off that as much as you can. he's throwing the ball on timing a lot better than he once did. He's not as frenetic as he was at

USC or last year as a rookie. I see an improving player. And his ability to stay on his feet. At this time last year, he had been sacked 41 times. And right now he's been sacked 16. He's not taking nearly as many sacks. He's seen the field. If the guys could catch his ball a little bit better, his stats would be better. But I think this guy's got, I mean, we'll find out. He's not. I mean, we'll find out. He's got a big game against Pittsburgh and that pass rush this week. But I believe in Caleb a lot. And I think he's only going to get better because I think Ben Johnson coaches him the right way. He coaches him hard.

He pushes him hard. I think he's pulled all the right buttons with Caleb right now. So, Bo Nicks, great late. Man, he can struggle. In fact, last week, I think was the first time in nine games they scored in their opening drive, which is strange because Peyton is one of the great play designers in the league. it's on script. Where are you with Bow right now? Well,

I thought that was a great game last week that Sean Payton had. I know you watched it, but if you know, if you listen to Sean, he was really perturbed by some of the national pundits out there saying, ah, they're playing with house money against Kansas City. They don't have to be too wrecked. Well, all he did was attack

from that opening drive when they scored. Got the ball down. They missed Troy Franklin and won. But they took seven deep shots in that game. They didn't connect on all of them, but they kept the safe 50's honest back there. And at the end, when they needed it the most, they got the ball down the field of Troy Franklin

in overtime to go win that thing. I like his approach. Sean Payton is maniacal about red zone offense. They missed a couple, but they also made a couple, and they made the important one when they needed it most. So I like Bo Nix. I like the way, I like his athletic ability. I like his toughness.

I think Sean loves him. When he's thrown to all young Pat Bryant, so rookie Troy Franklin's, a second year player, like a lot of young players that they're building this thing around. They could have gone at the trade deadline and found another receiver. There was guys out there, but they're building it with these young guys. He's building the connection that he has with these guys.

I haven't loved his judgment from the speeding tickets to the legendary draft room, but I thought Shadur was okay. I liked his spin move, and then he followed up with a throw to the end zone that I thought was a big boy throw. Everybody's beating up. People are very tribal. They're either all for him.

He's getting picked on or he's a bum. I'm kind of like, well, he's a backup for a reason. What did you see on film? I tell you all, I mean, look, it was a rough outing. There's no question. I mean, they blitzed him like crazy. There were some breakdowns from past protection with the right guard to the running back where he was under siege.

But, you know, when it was 2316 and he had two minutes to go down the field, he hit Harold Fanon over the middle. I mean, it was as good at any throw you're going to see all year. And it was cloudy in there, too. But he hit Fannin for 25. He hit Judy on 30, 10 for 10. He ran for five when there was an opening there. He did take two shots to the end zone.

One hit a Lovardine right in the hands. It got pulled out. Judy had a drop. I thought, you know, what he said after the game was important. He said, look, he goes, this is a game of details. I need to be detailed with my guys. maybe the throw that was incomplete to Judy on a comeback, maybe he completes that this week with a week of work and timing

because that's a typical route against a cover three zone, the receiver's coming back to the football, and he was a little late with the throw and it got defended. And you're right. I mean, he took another shot to the end zone. I thought he could have hit Judy on the out, could have gotten out of bounds, got a little closer to the end zone, fresh set of downs.

Maybe he can make that a better decision this week with a week of work. But the idea that he's supposed to be great with no work, not a meaningful snap since August, it's ludicrous, honestly, I don't care who it is. Finally, you know, I've always said, if you're the last player taken in the draft, I don't think all the GMs passed on Brock Purdy because they're all nitwits. There's limitations. He was reckless in college. I love college football.

I remember him. He was a winning quarterback, but he was reckless. He doesn't have great signs. He's a little more athletic than people give him credit for. But there is no question last week when he came in. It does look like Kyle can use about 15 more plays. They move the pocket a lot with him. And where have you always landed with him?

I love him. I mean, I love his decision making. I love his accuracy. I love his moxie, the ability to extend plays. He's not the biggest guy. He's, you know, and so there is a little bit of a limitation there, especially with throwing from the pocket. But, I mean, he's as tough as they come.

And honestly, Mack Jones had played really well in his replacement. And the question all week, week after week was, well, is Brock still your quarterback? And he always stood by him. And after watching him against Arizona, he's their quarterback. Like, he didn't skip a beat. He played as well as he's played all year or any time last year. Like, he didn't miss many throws.

It was really well designed. A lot of the routes like this throw, Kittle right here on a little, you know, taking a deep. I mean, it's a great throw. It's a great route combination. Throw him a lot of cheese and hit Kittle behind him. But I thought he hit all the throws that were designed to be made, one-on-one with Kittal against the linebacker,

one-on-one with McCaffrey against Cody Simon. Like, he hit the throws that he had to hit, and it was on time. He was very sharp. And it was, because that's not a great defense, but they are difficult because they do a lot. and they throw a lot of coverages at you and a lot of blitzes, and I thought he handled things really well. Brian Baldinger, it is always a pleasure to talk to you.

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What's going on with the wrist? Well, he does not need surgery, according to Mike Tom. Tomlin, there is a fracture in the wrist. However, in an amazing turn of events, Tomlin hopes that Rogers is able to play this weekend against the Bears despite the slight fracture in his wrist. I don't know what a slight fracture is. It sounds like, based on yesterday's reporting that Rogers wants to tighten the ranks

and not reveal any information. The line is still three, but we're starting to see some two and a halfs in the desert. Yeah. Yeah, the Steelers are a funny team. They go back and forth, like overachieve, underachieve, overachieve, overachieve, underachieve. So they just played really well, got great defensive playmaking. So now they have not been a consistent team.

You kind of get a different team every week. And so this week I feel like now they're going to Chicago, Chicago is feeling itself and playing well. Everybody keeps doubting the Bears and they just keep winning ugly. Can I say something, Colin? So Bears Vikings. Bears lead the whole way, blow the game at the end. Yeah. If they don't get a 60-yard kickoff return in the final minute,

they probably lose to the Vikings. Because remember, Caleb Williams, I don't know that Ben Johnson would have trusted him. He didn't even throw the ball to set up their game-winning drive to set up the field goal. Right. So I don't know if they trust Caleb that much. So now you've got him against a Pittsburgh defense that should have, I think, Highsmith's back, right? You got Watt.

Jalen Ramsey there. Like, they got some dudes. I took a nibble of Chicago, but I'm feeling like this is probably a stay away. Given Rogers, it sounds like they're going to try to get him to go. What about if it's Mason Rudolph? Can the Bears win that one? Bears will win Mason Rudolph. I think Aaron makes it.

Aaron's low mistake, high efficiency. Aaron gives them the shot. Believe it or not, Aaron can still help. Marginally, yeah. All right, let's move on to Scheners, Sanders, the Browns. People are into this, man. Yeah, the Browns. starting quarterback? I don't know. I mean, so his dad, Dion Sanders, is going through it in Colorado.

The Buffaloes are three and seven. And remember, I know Chedore's feeling heat in the NFL. Dion's starting to feel some heat too. And Dion was asked about his team struggles. Here we go. If anybody is built for adversity, I am. If anybody is built to change, I am. is if anybody's built to overcome situations and trial and tribulations, I am. You got the right man. I promise you, you do. And I'm going to prove that to you. I am.

Just give me an opportunity and give me a little more time, and I'm going to prove that to you. So, Colin, this is how much has changed a year ago this time. Colorado riding high. Shadur is going to be a top pick. Dion's great. One year later, Shadur is like. Like, not highly thought of in Cleveland. He was with the practice squad.

Travis Hunter's done nothing. Travis Hunter's done nothing. Dion, 3 and 7 and feeling heat. For the amount of money he's made that university in the last couple years, I'm a little surprised at this. Are you surprised he's feeling heat? No, I think he's made Colorado interesting. Relevant?

I think the recruiting's better. I don't know how relevant they are. I mean, the college football has really become the SEC against the Big Ten and add notary. Notre Dame. That's what the sport is right now. It's two major conferences with most of the good teams plus Notre Dame. You know, when Dion got hired, I don't think anybody thought he was going to be schematically Kyle Whittingham at Utah. That's not what he is, or Lincoln Riley. What he did is he added energy, focus, enthusiasm, and juice. Colorado football's fun. But they don't have a big budget. It's never been that capitalized. It's not. It is, what it is. It's not, you know, it's just, it's, if Colorado football, I'm dead serious, could

win seven games a year, I think you'd have to take that to the bank. I've always said that about UCLA, it's a basketball school. If UCLA can win eight games a year in football, take it now. I said that years ago and it got flack. Yukon right now with Jim Mora, the former Bruin coach, is better than UCLA football. Yukon, a basketball school. So, Colin, like, again, I'm not going after Dion and Shadour here. Is there a whiff of the Ball brothers? Remember how for like two years, Lonzo Ball and company,

they were one of the biggest stories in sports. You were talking about them almost every day. They were huge national. And then it quickly peters out. Right. Do you kind of feel like Dion and Shadur? They had their moment in the sun and it's starting to faith? I didn't think there was any, I mean,

there's both a lot of sizzle and not a ton of steak. I think that there's, but the difference is, Dion is not, I mean, Dion did add juice and Chador was a very interesting prospect. You know, I've thought about this. I don't remember any quarterback out of college where the people I trusted all thought he was going late first, middle second. Smart people. And he tanked. But then you started hearing about the bombed interview with the New York Giants, which was multiple reported.

multiple source. So I just, I never thought Dion was going to take this to a top five program. So I've kind of baked in. It was always going to be more hype than reality. But when they're on television and they're playing somebody, I still watch. Yeah. And I didn't before Dion. I didn't.

That's accurate. That's fair. Final story, Con, is Baker Mayfield has had a career resurrection in the NFL. Remember with the Rams, he popped briefly, flew in for that third. Thursday night game against the Raiders and won it? He ended up starting four games in L.A. before moving on. Sean McVeigh talked about that experience. I just remember a guy that had a pretty impressive, you know,

just mental stamina over a small period of time to absorb a lot of information. And then, you know, it's one thing to absorb it. It's a totally different thing to be able to bring it to life when the enemy has his say. And it was impressive. But I think when you watch what he's done and kind of who he is, I think it's probably more on par for what we expect of Baker than kind of the outlier, you know, when you look at the totality of everything he's done. Yeah, it's an interesting game. The Rams are coming off a very intense division rivalry game with Seattle that came down to the last second, you know, a very physical game on both sides.

A lot of emotion. I would expect the Rams to pull back. But Tampa Bay, as you and I talked about off air today, Tampa's now making their second long road trip. Cold weather Buffalo, now cross-country. It's a tough spot for Tampa, but it does feel like the Saints and Atlanta are a mess. Carolina is charging. You were about a year early on Carolina. They're a real team offensively.

But I tend to think Tampa will be in this game. That Buffalo game, I watched every snap. Tampa was in that game with 10 minutes to go. They were very resilient. They just couldn't make stops. I think Campo give the Rams some pushback. I would caution, I have a feeling this may make an appearance in headlines on Friday. And before you make any wagers, just look at how Matthew Stafford has done historically against one Todd Bowles.

I'll leave it at that for now. That's called a tease, by the way, Colin. Pretty good cheese. J-Mac with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Hurd-Lie News. Live in Chicago.

It's The Hurt. Be sure to catch live editions of The HARD weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific. Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers, and guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, new? Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast?

Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to a podcast. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before

Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast where people could call in and say, Hey Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys.

Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL, late night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform?

We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and friends on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Keith Giamonka seemed like a mild-mannered suburban dad, but secretly he became someone else, a master of disguise who went on a crime spree. At the time, did it seem like a crazy idea? It seemed very crazy, but I felt so desperate that I felt it was. the quickest, easiest way out. Did you allow yourself to think about how it could go wrong and what that might look like?

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He officially got it. He was looking for work. And the advantage for James Franklin and his agent, he was the first big name out there, ready to grab a job. Lane Kiffin's in a weird spot because. Everybody's coming after him. Better jobs than Ole Miss. Florida, certainly, LSU, probably. But the game that gets played here, and it's been played by entire life,

is there's two or three major agents. One of them is Jimmy Sexton. And most of these top coaches, like a Sarker, Elaine Kiffin, most of them have, like a Jimmy Sexton. And so Jimmy Sexton does the work for you. You can deny that you've taken a call. So Elaine Kiffin can say, I haven't talked to anybody. he hasn't he's talked to jimmy sexton jimmy sexton does all the work behind the scene same was sark

so if i was lane kiff and i would stay at old miss or go nfl uh sark today got perturbed with all the reporters talking about well is he even go is he i don't know why sark would leave this is a great job i mean i mean you know i i i think nfl jobs are better than college jobs but there's a couple of them like like texas i would take texas now over honestly over the jess or giants. Those are messes over the Saints, over the Titans. I would take Texas over those jobs. I would take Ohio State over those jobs. But Sark today, earlier on reports, he could leave Texas. People reporting or insinuating that there's a possibility I could leave the University of Texas, and that is absolutely false and untrue. I'm not going anywhere. So moving forward, when some

Joe Blow decides to put something on social media out there. We all don't run with it like it's the gospel. Can we all agree on that on this call? And if you have a question about my future with the University of Texas, ask me on one of these calls, ask Christel Connie. He'll be more than happy to take your call so that we can sec the record straight so that we can focus on our football team, which is really what we should be doing. Yeah, I don't think.

And I also think the NIL. has changed the landscape. So, you know, everybody was talking about Lincoln Riley. Well, they just built $300 million facilities at USC. They're paying $20 million a year for NIL, and they're paying Lincoln $75 million if they had to fire him. Well, they'd have to pay another $80 to get another coach. Like these schools don't have venture capital money, all right?

Maybe they'd have to go get it. But, I mean, you're paying players now, like the top recruits make a million bucks. Quarterbacks make three or four. So now, I think Lane Kiffin, my feeling on Lane is that Ole Miss has a ceiling. He can always get quarterbacks, receivers, at Ole Miss. Offensive players will follow the coach. Lane will always have good offensive players. Defensive players, and I've been told this by coaches, you usually go to the Big Dog Schools.

They want to go to Ohio State, a Michigan, a Notre Dame, an LSU, a Georgia. they don't necessarily follow a coach. They want to go to the big traditional powers. Offensive guys, you know, you recruit them, you put them on the whiteboard, tell a receiver, I'm going to give you 12 targets as a freshman, and you're going to make nine catches. I'm going to drop the plays for you. Offensive guys will follow a coach.

So Lane's concerned at Old Miss, I would guess, is I'm never going to have a Georgia defense. I'm never going to get that kind of defense here. My offenses will carve up anybody. My offense is when I was at Alabama. I was carving up Nick's defense is at practice. But I'll never have an elite defense. I'll always have to be kind of one-dimensional, offense-driven to win.

And I think Lane probably my gut feeling is considering NFL or Florida. I don't think you'd go to LSU. So now, Joel Clatt thinks Lane's already made up his mind. I think they're out. You know, there was this conversation like, well, maybe at 9 and 3, Texas, because one of those losses is at Ohio State. Maybe they could back their way into the playoffs.

No, that's the wrong one. Here is Joel Clatt talking about Lane Kiffin. He thinks he's going to leave Ole Miss. If he wanted to stay, he would stay, and we would have already known it. Look at all the other coaches around the country that have said they're staying or signed extensions. And Ole Miss, I know, has told him money is not a factor here. Whatever you get offered, we will match it. So it's not that he's going to make it.

more somewhere else, which is starting to lead me to believe. And again, I will fully own, I have been all over the map on this and Lane, but Lane is a unique cat. Now, I don't know if he can come back to Old Miss. You can't lead him on for this long. And now there's going to start to be animus. Like, why aren't you signing an extension? What's the problem? And I think he's going to Florida. I think he can go back to Ole Miss. But one of the kind of narratives that's out there And I hear this for a lot of coaches, like Lane Kiffin or Sark or all these coaches as well, I mean, he can be a legend at Ole Miss. Well, he's not from Mississippi. Being a legend is not, I mean, all the young, aggressive, smart people I've ever met in any business.

It could be education, tech, sports casting, coaching. None of them ever talk about, you know, my dream is to be a legend at blank. They want to get paid. they want to be at a place they can compete against the best. And if you're at Ole Miss, you're never going to get consistent recruiting classes like Georgia and Ohio State. I don't think Lane Kiffin wakes up thinking,

hey, I want to be the greatest Ole Miss coach of all time. What's the value of that? That doesn't mean you're a national champion. I think Lane wants to hoist a trophy. I think Sark wants to hoist a trophy. That's why you can hoist a trophy at Texas. I think it's very difficult at Ole Miss. And people, wow, he can be a little.

legend in Oxford. I don't think young coaches care about legend. I think Sean McVeigh is not looking to be a legend. He wants to win another Super Bowl this year in Matt Stafford's last year or second to last year. Whenever I hear that, oh, you can be a legend in Portland, Oregon, or Oxford, Mississippi, or TCU. I never hear anybody talk like that. I never hear that. I hear people want a place where their families happy,

and they think they can win a national championship. And I think Ole Miss is very hard to do it there. I think there are seven or eight college football programs. It is just simply easier to win a natty. And I'll write them down. Ohio State, Georgia, Texas, University of Florida. LSU, although they're taking crazy pills now.

Ohio State, Georgia, Texas, Florida, LSU. I don't think Michigan's that easy. I think Michigan is a great academic institution, and Harbaugh took a long time to build a roster that could compete with Georgia. I wouldn't put Michigan in that class. Ohio State, Georgia, Texas, Florida, LSU. A lot of people would put USC in that class. They're somewhere between, it's like, I'll give you an example, Oregon.

Oregon has the money to be a national champion. They can go buy players, but they're in a state with no high school players. So you have to convince kids to go to rainy weather, or you can just go buy them. That's not as easy as Texas, which doesn't have to convince kids, it turns kids down. So does Georgia. It's always been an advantage, Florida, Louisiana, Georgia, to be in a state where you don't have to convince kids they grow up wanting to be a Buckeye or a Longhorn

or a Georgia Bulldog or play for the Crimson Tide or be a Trojan. Most kids that grow up in Southern California want to play for USC. They just do. Now Oregon pays them more. Oregon's cooler and sexier and the facilities but there are about five or six programs. I guess probably Alabama

is one of those. Although in the NIL I'm not sure Bama is. I'm not sure Bama is. I think in the NIL when money becomes a factor Ohio State, Georgia, Texas, Florida, LSU, Notre Dame, Bama, Alabama does not have big NIL money. Notre Dame is an academic power, and it's, you know, let's be honest about it. South Bend, Indiana, the most fun you can have is the first plane leaving.

So, let's be honest about that. I mean, let's be honest about South Bend. Marcus Freeman can sell it, but it's, you know, it's, you know, it's, you know, It's a small town that it takes a while to get out of there. So I think Notre Dame Bama can win titles, but I don't think it's as easy as it is at Georgia, Texas, and Ohio State. Oklahoma, again, the state doesn't have a lot of five-star recruits. It used to 20 years ago. It doesn't as men.

I think Oklahoma is in that USC, Oklahoma, Notre Dame, Bama, you can win them. Oregon. but I think, I mean, I don't think there's many schools that are like built to win back-to-back Natties. Ohio State, Georgia, Texas, Florida, and Crazy Town LSU, probably. That would be my top five. And then it's USC, Oklahoma, Alabama, Notre Dame, Penn State, Clemson. You can win them, but there's some stuff. I mean, Clemson could be in that list, but they don't want to play the NIO game.

So, okay, then you've made conditions. conditions. And so Sark leaving, when you get those four or five jobs, those to me are better than the bottom three NFL jobs. I didn't used to think that, but the NFL now is so quarterback-centric, so quarterback-reliant, and college football gives you one great quarterback a year, maybe one and a half. So it's just, and when you get them, you got to keep them healthy. Like the Chargers, they're struggling to do that with Justin Herbert, just to keep them on his feet. So there is, it's, let's say the NFL, NFL gives you two quarterbacks a year. Go look at the NFL right now. There's like nine teams desperate for a quarterback. This draft has one surefire. Everybody likes him guy. And if Dante Moore stays at college, it's one.

And if not Ty Simpson. The guys I talk to do not think he's a high top eight, nine pick. So there you go. All right. Kiffin, by the way, denying reports that Old Miss has given him an ultimatum. What they've done is we'd like an answer, you know, weak of the Egg Bowl, which is the Mississippi State game. That's not an ultimatum. They've said, hey, listen, we want an answer pretty quick. Pretty quick is not an ultimatum.

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