The Herd with Colin Cowherd - THE HERD - Hour 3 - The World Cup is almost here, QBs on the NFL market

Episode Date: March 3, 2026

Colin talks to Alexi Lalas about the USA chances in the World Cup, his thoughts on England, and more He talks about the free agent QB market and who teams should be interested inSee omnystudio.com/lis...tener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:29 And with that, we are 100 days out. but for the record the World Cup England, Spain, Germany, Brazil, Argentina hasn't soccer always been top heavy? We're not watching the World Cup with all the new teams for the bottom teams.
Starting point is 00:02:47 For the record, the United States currently 14th best odds in Vegas. Alexei Lawless, the Soccer Hall of Famer, been to a couple of World Cups, including ones on our soil. Let me start with that.
Starting point is 00:03:03 is that I, listen, they're going to get out of the group stage. The groups, you know, they're a little because we're adding teams to the World Cup, which I'm okay with. They're going to get out of the World Cup stage. They're 14th best odds. And Nick Wright and I were talking about this about an hour ago. We said there is something about whether you're a boxer or a tennis player or a baseball team or a soccer team in the World Cup.
Starting point is 00:03:26 You're on home soil. You tell me, experienced it. Does it matter a little bit? Is there a sense of pride? I mean, Lake Placid's the greatest example of playing over yourself. You tell me, Alexley, does it matter? Well, greetings, Colin. Yeah, I think you hit the nail on the head here.
Starting point is 00:03:43 There's nothing better than a World Cup except one thing, and that is a home World Cup. And there is a magic. And if you are able to harness that, then, man, you can do things that people don't believe that you can do. When it comes to this summer, obviously we're hosting with our friends to the North Canada, our friends to the South Mexico, but the majority of the games are going to be here in the United States. And from a U.S. perspective, I mean, there's a lot of synergy. There's a lot of stuff that's going on this summer, not the least of which is, by the way, the 250th birthday, what I feel is the greatest country in the world. So there's an opportunity here to celebrate. There's an opportunity for this U.S. men's national team to catch some fire.
Starting point is 00:04:20 We've just seen it happen with the hockey team. I think America wants to celebrate. and they can use this summer and use the World Cup to celebrate our country through the lens of a World Cup. You mentioned, I'm sitting here today because of the 1994 World Cup. It changed my life forever, but I saw what it can do to a country and culture. And that same thing and that same opportunity exists this summer for a whole other generation. So when I'm walking down the street and people say, oh, my God, I remember a 94 World Cup, it was awesome. It changed the way that I think about the game and everything.
Starting point is 00:04:49 That's fine and well. But hopefully there's a whole other generation many years from now when I'm long gone that looks back at summer of 2026 and says, man, that was a party, that was a celebration. Whether you're into soccer or not, you come into that tent and you get infected, if you will, with I think, you know, the greatest thing in the world, which is soccer. And by the way, once you're infected, sometimes it's very, very hard to get rid of. Yeah. We're 100 days out. If I said to you, I think we both worry a little bit about, you know, who's going to be in goal, which has generally been a historic strength for Team USA. If I said to you, though, here is the one thing that,
Starting point is 00:05:24 that I like about this team and I'm absolutely sure of. Because generally speaking, I don't care if it's March Maddeners of the World Cup, you've got to have a foundational piece that every guy in that room, including the staff, knows works. What are you fond of most about this team that you can bank on? Well, to your point about goalkeeping, no goalie, no party. And we just saw that when it came to the men's and women's Olympic hockey team. You've got to have a goalie in there.
Starting point is 00:05:54 As you mentioned before, we have a long history of great goalkeeping. Matt Freeze right now, I think, is the incumbent. I think he is going to start. By the way, if he starts, he could possibly be the first, I'm not mistaken, first Harvard man to start in goal for a U.S. team. We can't hold that against him. Right, exactly. Listen, it doesn't mean you're smart, but you went to Harvard,
Starting point is 00:06:12 and all I care about is that you save the ball, right? And so that's what he has to do. He's yet to prove it on a World Cup stage, but I think he's going to be given the opportunity here. Look, I think a lot of people are going to point to Christian Polisic, I think, as well on his way to becoming the best. best male American soccer player in history, and he's got to show up. And he often does for the U.S., but listen, you know, Colin, you know, you talk about athletes nowadays, and a lot of times
Starting point is 00:06:35 athletes will talk about brands, right? Back in the day, we didn't know what it was or didn't call it that. But, you know, we cultivated a brand, certainly, you know, the way that I looked and that kind of stuff, that was a brand, if you will. But for a lot of these players who are making a lot of money, who have achieved a lot of fame and success elsewhere, this is a home world cup. And as I said, all of these people coming in, that's another opportunity for you to almost market yourself individually. I think a lot of people are going to be introduced, for example, to Christian Polisic for the first time. And I want him to step up. I think he has the talent to be able to do it on a consistent basis. He's a quiet type of leader, but he speaks volumes on
Starting point is 00:07:10 the field in terms of the big moments and his one-on-one ability. So the final U.S. roster, is it May that it's announced? Do you do? Is, do you have have a prediction? Maybe it, will there be any surprises? Yeah. I mean, I think that there are always surprises. And Maricio Pocitino, the new coach, he doesn't suffer fools. And while when he first came in, I was, you know, scratching my head at, you know,
Starting point is 00:07:35 some of what it looked like some madness. And now I've come around to, you know, there is a method to some of his madness. And, you know, in the, in the vein of, you know, Herb Brooks or something like that, I think he recognizes that it's not about the best soccer players. It's about the best collection. that's right of players and so i think that that is going to bode well for this team uh this summer but let's be honest okay going to world cups from from a men's team perspective we've done that plenty of times winning groups we've done that uh we were handball away possibly from going to a semi final back in
Starting point is 00:08:06 2002 so we should expect more i think it's fair to expect more from this generation i'm not grumpy old man in this by any stretch of the imagination i'm actually really really proud of all of the resources and all of the opportunities that this generation has had another reminder at the previous world cup back in Qatar four years ago, it was the second youngest team at the World Cup, our U.S. team. So that team now has matured, and you would expect here on our home soil for that to come to fruition. Yeah, I mean, when we played Netherlands, it was very obvious. They were an older, more experienced team, a more physical team.
Starting point is 00:08:38 I do worry, and I don't know, I worry a little bit about this. I don't, I think our ball skills excellent. I think our speed feels as good as it's ever been. I think we're allowed now to play more of an attacking style because we're a more talented team. I do worry about, I don't know if toughness is the right word, a grittiness. I think that's a more diplomatic word. Clinton Dempsey and you sort of embodied that. Like you were just, you were feisty players.
Starting point is 00:09:13 Do we have that component? Do you worry about that? I do worry about it. And I think it's essential. I mean, you need look no further than, you know, look, if it bleeds, it leads in sports and in news, obviously, but, you know, nothing rallies the troops more than blood. I mean, we just saw it with, you know, broken teeth and blood and all that kind of stuff. You know, it connotates a deeper type of commitment. And these are incredibly skilled players.
Starting point is 00:09:40 So I'm not saying that, you know, you have to be Neanderthal in the way that you approach the game. But there is a element of, give it a name, whatever it is, grit, whatever you want to call it. that has been a hallmark of this team over the years. And that's what's enabled us, even at times where we weren't as skillful or as experienced, to get results. And so now if you marry the two, you hope that it's there.
Starting point is 00:10:01 And you hope that we haven't thrown the baby out with the bathwater in terms of that good American grit that we have seen in the past. And if you get those two together, the sky's the limit. Yeah. England, which is they haven't won a World Cup since the 60s, the mid-60s. I can remember my mom when I was my late mother took me to England for a summer
Starting point is 00:10:25 and it was like 70, 1970-ish. Netherlands was great and England was great. Little did they know that would be the last time they'd win a World Cup. They have great hype and marketing and do you buy England as a team that could win the World Cup? Oh, Colin.
Starting point is 00:10:42 Well, nobody's watching this, right? Or listening to this. I feel comfortable saying this to you right now. as much as it pains me, England's really good, okay? And listen, again, on our 250th birthday, Colin, if we were to allow England to come to our shores and to win a World Cup and for it to, quote, unquote, come home through our shores, I cannot abide. Anybody but England, you think the English are insufferable now when it comes to their soccer? Can you imagine if they were to win the World Cup here in the United States.
Starting point is 00:11:15 The problem is, is that they are really, really good. And they're not sneaky good because it's still England. And they're right below your France's and your Spain's and your Argentina's. But, man, they get on a roll and they start feeling it.
Starting point is 00:11:29 It could be, like I said, great for England, but not so great for us. It's from a 70, 76 perspective. So France has had great success in recent World Cups. And what I've always was found fascinating. The Italian
Starting point is 00:11:46 culture was more of a defensive-minded culture. What is it about the French soccer ecosystem that has globally elevated them? I mean, they've always been worthy, but in recent cups, they've been extraordinary.
Starting point is 00:12:04 Is it a coaching? What has elevated them? A couple of things. It's a culture thing in terms of development at a very young age. They recognize talent and they foster that that talent. So now you have depth. Now that talent, while it may start in what you would call a much more development
Starting point is 00:12:22 league that is the league, uh, league over in France, immediately as soon as they start showing, um, uh, talent, they oftentimes move up to other leagues. And so if you go to the best leagues in the world, they are often populated by a lot of French players. Um, you talk about, uh, diaspora and the way that they have integrated in, uh, all of the talent that has come over, even at times talent that has come from, you know, different types of cultures, but there is a general understanding about how this France team wants to play. They've had a coach now for multiple cycles, so there's a consistency. And they are,
Starting point is 00:12:57 they are scary good. And it's not just Killian Mbapé from top to bottom. And as I said, they could probably field a couple of national teams and be incredibly competitive with both of them. So Marisaa Pocetino is a coach that his history coming to our, team was that he liked, he was good with young players. Well, we're a young team. There's also been some pushback within some of the, you know, I mean, listen, this is, this is big money, it's big visibility, there's one national team. What would you give him, and it's a hard grade, what would you give him as a grade so far? What, what? Because I don't think the American consumer outside of guys like you and the, you know, the, the, the soccer,
Starting point is 00:13:43 high hard has much of a feel for him. Your vibe with him so far. Yeah, so far, I mean, if I have to give him a grade, I'd probably give him a B, a solid B, but the reality is that I would give him an incomplete because nothing really matters. I mean, we will, you know, ring our hands and, you know, in consternation about the friendly games that we have and he's bringing in this player or not playing this player and all that. But the reality is all that he is going to be judged upon is what happens when that first whistle blows and then whenever that next whistle blows to finish off the campaign for this summer.
Starting point is 00:14:17 Keep in mind that this is a coach that's never coached internationally. It's this is his first international job and it's a very, very different proposition when you are coaching internationally where you get the team sometimes two or three days at a time as opposed to day in and day out where he's had most of his success. Yeah, it's difficult. And this is, but having said that, I think that, as I said, there is a method to the madness. I do believe that he's brought in a ruthlessness that I think is a trait of many Argentines in terms of how they view the players and how they want their play to team. I also think he is adamant about the honor and the recognition of representing,
Starting point is 00:14:58 in this case, the United States, but your country and that you need to feel more than just the actual kicking of the ball and the results. So when that anthem is playing, you put your hand over your heart, that has to mean something that then translates to your performance on the field. Are he in Pulisic in a good space? I think so, because I think they need each other, and he certainly needs Christian Polisic to do the things that he can do. But oftentimes the World Cup works in funny ways,
Starting point is 00:15:28 and the soccer gods work in funny ways. And who we are talking about right now might not be ultimately who we are talking about when the World Cup is finished. You know, you got a guy like Weston McKinney, who I think a lot of Americans, again, are going to see for the first time and are going to fall in love with. You got a guy, Chris Richards, who is a centerback.
Starting point is 00:15:46 I think, you know, his smile, but also his maturity now for still a young player. And we need a good defender. I think he is going to come to the four. And then you have, you know, some players in MLS, whether it's a Diego Luna at a Salt Lake or a Sebastian Burhalter, who plays up in Vancouver,
Starting point is 00:16:02 a Christian Roldon, who's been around and plays for Seattle. Sometimes, and I think even this World Cup, there will be some surprises in terms of who creates those magical moments that for many generations we remember. Alexi Lollis, the Hall of Famer, Fox Sports Soccer analyst. Messies 38. Rinaldo is LeBron like at 41.
Starting point is 00:16:25 Messi, pretty remarkable with Miami from, I mean, first night was remarkable. At this point, do you give them a puncher's chance to break through? How do you feel about Messi and Ronaldo? I mean, I do just because of how good they are. However, history has not been kind to repeat or attempted repeats. Last time it happened was 58 and 62 with Brazil. So it's very, very difficult to do, even with arguably the goat for Messi and this wonderful
Starting point is 00:16:57 Argentinian team and even in his new neighborhood and backyard here in the the United States. But you wouldn't put it past him, given the things that he's done. But as you mentioned, you know, Spain will have a say, France will have us, will have us say, Christiano Rinaldo and Portugal licking his chops talk about depth. So it'll be interesting to see also that dynamic. I know you talk a lot about LeBron and the dynamic and how much is he going to play and is he going to start? And if he doesn't start, is it a problem for him and the team? And how do you manage his minutes? And do you say, hey, to one of the greatest players also with an incredible ego, you're not going to start this game and how does he take how does he take that all of those different things are going to be part of the stories that we're going to tell all through these 39 days of the World Cup this summer great seeing you as always Alexi you look wonderful my friend well you know we both have our hairstep we're trying
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Starting point is 00:23:03 With the news No, no, no, no Turn on the news This is the Herdline News Not sure if you saw this But Janus returned last night Colin, they'd been on a bit of a sabbatical Nursing and quote unquote injury
Starting point is 00:23:18 Returned, it was solid 19 and 11 They got blasted by the Celtics By a billion Celtics did not even play Jalen Brown Which speaks to how bad this Bucks team is But hey, Janice was just happy to be out there Here he is talking about the performance. I'm just happy that I'm on the court.
Starting point is 00:23:34 It doesn't matter if I play 18, 20, me, 22, whatever. I'm just happy that I'm out there. I'm just in that, like, a mindset that I try not to take nothing for granted. Obviously, I did not play well tonight. But at the end of the day, I'm just happy that I'm out there. Being able to, you know, help my teammates in any way that I can and just do what I love, which is play basketball. Oh.
Starting point is 00:23:59 Nice guy. Hey, the best chance for them to keep Janus is to miss the playoffs, get into lottery, and somehow win the lottery or get the second pick, right? If you get to Bansa, do you say, Janice, hey, we've got a superstar here potential. Do you want to stick around? Like, that's their best bet, right? Short of that, I don't see why they're playing. Like, what's the point?
Starting point is 00:24:22 I know he wants to play, but I don't care what you want. I want what's best for our team, right? Well, it should be noted. Luca was upset when he was traded from Dallas. He didn't want to be traded, and Janus has talked, but doesn't necessarily want to be traded, and Yokic is loyal, and we've talked about this. International players would rather stay with a team that drafts them. I mean, that is a reality, is that there is something about this not being your home country,
Starting point is 00:24:53 and you come into this country, and you feel a sense of pride and, respect and i mean we can talk about yonis leaving but they love him in milwaukee he is still a top eight seven six player in the league and um you know i i it's funny i'm here i'm here he is great i do think the nicks are a fascinating team because the nicks could give up draft picks a really good player in o g a josh hart and he would solve their defensive issues i mean they had to let go of Hartenstein, so they lost some defense there. And McHale Bridges has been a nice piece on the wing defensively, but Kat and Brunson are liabilities.
Starting point is 00:25:36 I do think not because it's a big market. I think New York does make sense. And if I could get multiple draft picks and a player like OG, a secondary player to make the salaries match, it's a pretty good haul. Let me ask, you just said something interesting. Do you think it's a winning mentality or a losing mentality for young? honest to say, I want to stay in Milwaukee. I want to stay here and win. Because I think of that as a losing mentality. Look what the team is around you. You have no chance. You can say we're going to
Starting point is 00:26:07 compete. You're not sniffing the playoffs. Well, I think, you know, it depends. I think a lot of old-time basketball fans think less of you if you're mobile, which for me, I think everybody else in society is, I mean, if you got a better offer at a better law firm, or you were a principal or a school teacher and got a better offer in a different district, you would take it. But there is a, there is a sense that, you know, you're, in every other sport, we understand if you go play for the Dodgers, you want to play for a better team and have guys that are better hitting in front of you and behind you. You get better pitches. In the NFL, if you're, if you're an offensive tackle, I'd rather have Mahomes behind me than a scrub. Yeah. But there is something about
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Starting point is 00:27:30 They couldn't get the ball in his hands enough. Like, I got it. Yeah, we're in lockstep there. Hey, let's stick in the NBA. This is a fascinating story, Colin. The Charlotte Hornets, who we don't talk enough about, would you believe that they're one of the best teams in the league since January 22nd? 14 and 3, the best record, and they have the second best offensive rating in that time span. Okay?
Starting point is 00:27:51 That's over a month. That's a significant sample size. Here's my angle that I love, Colin. We banged on La Mello Ball for years. He's immature. He takes terrible shots. He's all about goofy, one-legged threes. Colin, quietly, Lamello Ball is growing up.
Starting point is 00:28:07 I mean, honestly, he's got Concanipple, Brandon Miller, and this team is starting to come together. I don't want to say that they're going to throw a scare into someone in the first round. Well, the Lamello Ball now has two finishers on his roster. Yep. So is he growing up or the reality is his passes get finished? and he gets assists. Well, I think it's a little bit of both, but he is now 24 years old.
Starting point is 00:28:27 He came into this league as a young, I don't want to say punk, but he was a young guy who was very arrogant. And you talked culture earlier, Colin, about basketball culture, football culture. Sometimes it just takes five years. When you think about a lot of these college guys coming out in football, they're 23, 24, a little more mature. That is what's so amazing about the NBA draft. Like, Connoffle was a very good college player.
Starting point is 00:28:50 I just looked this up. He's one of five players in the whole league, averaging 18 plus and 40% from three. The others are Yokic, Durant, and Jamal Murray, and then Kong Knieppel. He's now the favorite to win rookie of the year. Like, because you get drafted so young, I mean, you know, you have kids.
Starting point is 00:29:09 The difference between, like, an 8-year-old boy and a 10-year-old boy is two different human beings. The difference between, like, a 19-year-old and a 22-year-old is your brains developing and your majority. maturity's developing. Like, some of these guys in the last two draft classes are like, wow, they are getting much better, much quicker. Yeah, and I'll just say this about Lamello.
Starting point is 00:29:33 This kid, he could play. I wanted to trade him if they got Cooper Flagg. They obviously kept him. Hornets fans were angry with me. They actually played Dallas tonight. Cooper Flag, unlikely to play, so we won't get Cinnipple versus Cooper. And you're right. Con Cinepple's going to win rookie the year, mostly because the Mavs are tanking.
Starting point is 00:29:49 Right. And they want to get a higher pick and Cooper Flag is not going to play. Let's wrap up, Colin, with Kyler Murray, the Arizona Cardinals quarterback. This, you know, you get a lot of speculative stories this time of year. Yeah. Colin, this is the craziest one I've heard. Apparently there's a report that maybe the Steelers could trade, wait for it, multiple picks for Kyler Marie. Now, not high value picks, not early round picks, but like a 20276, then a 2026 fifth, later round
Starting point is 00:30:19 picks for Kyler Murray, okay? Do you think there's any chance anyone's trading for Kyle of Murray? Yeah, I think I think, I think, A, he's talented. And B, if you don't have to pay a full boat, why not? Okay, would you convince Aaron Rogers to come back or trade some later round picks for Kyler Murray? No, with Pittsburgh, I'd play Will Howard.
Starting point is 00:30:44 Yeah, I'm with you on that. Yeah, I'd play Will Howard. They're not comfortable with bottoming. That's not a knock on Aaron Rogers. if I was Minnesota, I would go get Aaron Rogers or Mac Jones. In that Kevin O'Connell system, I think they'd both be really, really good. I wonder, do you think Mike McCarthy got maybe some kind of wink-wink assurances before taking the job? I mean, I don't think he went and it was like, give me Will Howard. I'm ready.
Starting point is 00:31:09 I wonder if they had like a plan, whether it's Kyler or Kirk Cousins, whoever. And that's why McCarthy took it. I think Mike McCarthy, honestly, I think, If you ask Mike McCarthy privately, he would never admit this. He wants to play Will Howard. He may go five and 12. He doesn't care. I mean, Pittsburgh doesn't fire coaches, right?
Starting point is 00:31:32 Like, he's got, he'll end his career as the Pittsburgh Steelers coach, six years. Let's say he gets six, seven years. I mean, Mike's still with it. So I think if you asked him, he'd rather go with Will Howard and just say, guys, let's give this kid a chance. Let's have a whole line or running back room, our tight-end room. It's fine. Aaron proved this year. Pittsburgh's fine if you get the right leadership.
Starting point is 00:31:58 The problem is the owner has said we don't want to rebuild. We don't do rebuilds here. So there's a bit of headbutting there. Steelers are kind of fascinating, Colin. By the way, this Aaron Rogers stuff to Minnesota is starting to pick up again. Remember Kevin O'Connell apparently had liked him? So if Rogers leaves the Steelers from Minnesota. So Aaron in Minnesota is, it is back on?
Starting point is 00:32:18 Well, not on, on, but there's rumblings that, hey, Kevin O'Connell was the one that liked him. The GM didn't like Rogers. And now Rogers is kind of a free agent. He's been very quiet. Have you noticed? Not a lot of Aaron Rogers chatter out there in the ether. Wonder if there's a behind the scenes deal going on somewhere. That's interesting.
Starting point is 00:32:38 We hear a lot of Kyler this week, right? A lot of Tua, a lot of this guy. Where's Aaron Rodgister? I think we're, as of tomorrow, we're a week away from the start of free agency. So, I mean, and for the record, you know this. The official start a free agency deals feel like they're done three days out. Right, right. So, I mean, they're talking now.
Starting point is 00:32:57 So, I mean, it's, you know, it's a hill I've died on. I think Kyler's really talented. I think there's some commitment stuff. I don't want to pay him a ton of money, but I think you can win games with the right protection. I do. J. Mack with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping.
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Starting point is 00:33:37 We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how did we? How do we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys?
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Starting point is 00:37:17 On your phone, let it ring twice. One ring is too scary. Cream a chicken suit. Hey, cream a chicken suit. This is Help from a Hypocrite, the worst advice from the dumbest people you know. Listen to Help from Hypocrite as part of the Mike Coutura Podcast Network available on the IHartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I was saying earlier today, between the draft and free agency, I mean, you're hearing Kirk Cousins and Tua and Kyler Murr. If you told me, I'm a GM, I'm looking around who are the five most acquireable
Starting point is 00:38:00 quarterbacks, age, cost, health, production, ascension. There's a story today that nobody's interested. There's no market on Mac Jones, which I find weird. To me, the best acquireable quarterbacks this year are Fernando Mendoza. You get the rookie contract for years. He's a big, strong, accurate kid. I love his spirit. I'd probably do Mac Jones.
Starting point is 00:38:22 He's more seasoned than a lot of the guys like Malik Willis and Ty Simpson out there. He's inexpensive at least for a year. He's 27 years old. He was the second most accurate quarterback in the league. Now, a lot of that's Kyle Shanahan. But if you've got a decent old line like Minnesota does, I'm interested. Malik Willis has a scarcity of starts. He's got six career starts.
Starting point is 00:38:47 Really athletic. got a nice arm, not ideal size. I'd roll the dice on him. If I had to pay $28 to $30 million, I'd roll the dice. Somebody rolled the dice on Baker, Mayfield, and Tampa. It worked out. Ty Simpson, I think, is draftable. Again, this is not as much I love Ty.
Starting point is 00:39:07 I think he's something there. But it's a cousins, Tua, Kyler, I'm not going to go there. And Aaron Rogers, the downside to Aaron, he may just play for a year. But, I mean, to me, these are the five guys that interest me. You know, Tua, I've said my piece. Kyler, like him more than the market, but there's a lot of questions. Kirk Cousins, I think, you know, been there, done that. Well, your guy, Kylo Murray's going to be a little disappointed to not make the list.
Starting point is 00:39:35 Let me just throw out a curveball and don't freak out, okay? But there seems to be a market, a small one, for Anthony Richardson, who is one of these guys who has not shown anything, but he walks in the room to meet you. He's a big strapping individual. Who the hell's tackling this guy? If we can just clean up a little bit of his mechanics and he goes from completing 50% of his passes to 60,
Starting point is 00:39:59 you might have something. Is there any way Anthony Richardson cracks this list? I go back to the Kyle Shanahan theory. When Kyle Shanahan said, yeah, I can't make Tray Lance work, kind of a warning sign. When Shane Steichen's like, yeah, I mean, Shane Steichen took,
Starting point is 00:40:15 took Jalen Hertz to an MVP level. Why do he say it like that? I mean, come on, geez. Well, I mean, there's... Jalen Hertz, like he's some bum. Well, he's... But no, but he's not an MVP. He's not...
Starting point is 00:40:29 He shouldn't be the most valuable player in the league. Shane Steichen got Justin Herbert out of college who not everybody was high on. They thought he was kind of, you know, stiff. And he broke... I mean, with an average O-line, he shattered. rookie quarterback numbers.
Starting point is 00:40:47 Yeah, that's fair. So if Shane Steichen is telling you and I, yeah, I'm out, I'm going to overpay for Daniel Jones. I have a hard time saying I'm going to embrace it. And by the way, that's, I mean, I, Kyler Murray is the most talented quarterback on the market. Timeout, time out, time out. What are you basing it, like the most talented? Elusiveness, elusiveness, accuracy, movement. I think Malik Willis and Kyler are really unique.
Starting point is 00:41:18 I think Fernando Mendoza is underrated. But I mean, I know what I get with Tua. I kind of know what I get with Mack Jones. Anthony Richardson's got a lot of talent. But let's not go crazy here. In the NBA, you've got to be able to hit an occasional three or your reliability to your offense. I don't have to guard you.
Starting point is 00:41:37 In the NFL, if you're a quarterback, you've got to be able to hit the 15 and under layups. He struggles. he struggles with the layups. So Stuyken's like, I'm out. Well, they're desperate for a quarterback in the Indy. And they're just moving off him. That's a huge red flag.
Starting point is 00:41:55 So if Kyler Murray's so talented, what does it say about these five guys to be ahead of him? Well, he's expensive and brittle. Well, he's about to get cut by the Cardinals, right? Kua is also not sniffing this list. I know, listen, he was health, no health issues last year of memory service. He just got benched. I had nothing against the guy, but Mac Jones is just, cheap. Fernando Mendoza rookie contract.
Starting point is 00:42:16 Aaron Rogers is cheap. Ty Simpson's cheap. And Malik Willis is team friendly. Every one of those guys on that screen has something I like. Mendoza's size and accuracy. Mack Jones, accuracy and inexperance. Malik Willis, electric athletically. Ty Simpson, I don't have to play him for a year. He's not going to cost me anything.
Starting point is 00:42:35 And Aaron, say what you want about Aaron Rogers. The Steelers, turnovers down, intelligence up when he took the offense over. By the way, I had to look this up. Tyler Marie started at Texas A&M. Yeah. He played, but he didn't start much. Then transfers to Oklahoma, he really only started one season in college and did not quite pan out. The other guy that isn't on the list, and again, you know, just rain it in here.
Starting point is 00:43:01 But Joe Flacco was in Cleveland, has had some success. His coach from Cleveland landed where, Colin? Atlanta. Atlanta has a quarterback with an injury. Do you think they roll the dice with Flacco? a proven commodity for Kevin Stefansky?
Starting point is 00:43:17 Yeah, yeah. Flacco is, you know, his age keeps him off my top five, but I don't have a problem with Flacko.
Starting point is 00:43:23 I don't. I think, you know, what's really interesting about this draft, and tomorrow I'm going to give you my top 15 picks. I'm going to do,
Starting point is 00:43:32 every year I do a who I would draft if I was GM of the team. It's not a prediction. It's not a projection. It is, this is who I would draft. Can you give us a tease?
Starting point is 00:43:46 Like, what are you doing with the Jets at two? Just kidding. It's got to be Reese. I'm excited about this tomorrow. If I was the Jets at two, I would trade down. Or sell the team to me, you know, pennies on the cheap, and then I would, you know, make some far. No, nobody's trading up to two, though.
Starting point is 00:43:58 There's no quarterback, Tom. I would say this. Nussmeyer, late second round, Kate Klubnick, Drew Aller, the kid at North Dakota State. Somebody, we know this to be true. if you go to the last 15 years somebody is going to pop in the third, fourth, fifth round.
Starting point is 00:44:18 And it's probably going to be a guy who goes to a really smart offensive coach. Like let's say Cincinnati in the third round, Joe Burroughs had some injuries, and they go say, we're going to get Nussmeyer from LSU, Joe Burroughs got a connection to it. I'm throwing it out there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:35 Or let's say Kevin O'Connell, Minnesota, they draft Cabe Clubnick in the fourth of fifth round. what's interesting about this draft is you know every time we say it's a great quarterback draft it disappoints us when we say it's a terrible quarterback draft we end up finding a DAC Prescott
Starting point is 00:44:52 somebody's going to hit that may not be a star somebody's going to be a starting quarterback in the NFL for years in the second third, fourth, or fifth round at quarterback that to me that's what's interesting hmm interesting wow.
Starting point is 00:45:06 Nussmeyer how many times did Nussmeyer get benched last season I lost track? The situation was so distorted and off. They went and hired Lane Kiffin and paid a pretty penny for it. Interesting. I'm excited for that. When are you debuting that tomorrow? At the top of the show?
Starting point is 00:45:21 No, no, no. It's probably top of the second hour. If I was GM, these are, I'm taking it home tonight and have it in the morning. This is who I would draft. Okay. First things first, Nick right around the corner, Brousard, Kevin Wilde. 100 days out from the world. Cup all fired up at Fox.
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