The Herd with Colin Cowherd - THE HERD - Hour 3 - Three time Super Bowl Champion Eric Mangini joins The Herd

Episode Date: November 12, 2025

Colin talks to 3-time Super Bowl Champion Eric Mangini joins the show to reveal why Bill Belichick could be plotting an NFL comeback with the New York Giants, and what that would mean for the league’s coaching landscapeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Eric Mangini, first things first, is joining us live. So I suggested, I said, I think I would go get Mike McCarthy. It's New York. I want coaching experience. He won with Cooper Rush. He won with Dack. He won with Aaron. That was called boring and uninspiring as an option.

Is Mike McCarthy sound boring and uninspiring? uninspiring. I don't know if I'd want to go with another coordinator in New York. Coughlin was a head coach at Boston College, Jacksonville, New York. He could handle New York. McCarthy's head, Jerry, Big Packers brand. McCarthy feels like the right fit to me in New York. Am I nuts? You're not nuts. For an organization that's had as many problems with the giants to get an established head coach with the experience and who's not going to go through that learning curve is really attractive, but typically guys don't get three head coaching shots. That's,

that's not the norm. To me, this would have, if Bill had sat, if Bill Belichick had sat out a year, another year, and been available, I think this would have been a really interesting story, and it could have gone full circle. And that's not a great fit either because of his age and some of the personnel issues he's had. But, that at least is a compelling storyline and you'd know he'd get the defense fixed at a minimum. Yeah. Yeah, I don't love Belichick. Yeah, I don't love North Carolina Belichick going there.

I think that that has kind of allowed the ship to sail. What do you make the Giants keeping their GM, Joe Shane? I don't understand it at all, Colin. And look, I'm a little bit biased toward Brian Dayball because I've had a long relationship with him, and he's worked for me, and I know what a good coach he is, and he was coach of the year to start. But we all saw on TV that GM wanted to move on from Sequin Barclay, and he definitely wasn't going to go in the division,

and he wasn't worth what anybody was going to pay him, and then he goes and has almost an MVP-type season, and arguably could have been the MVP if we didn't always name a quarterback. And then they do that to keep Daniel Jones, and then they move on from Daniel Jones. They eat all of the dead money, and here we are a year later, and Daniel Jones is doing what he's doing with the Colts.

So that's the guy making the ultimate personnel decisions. Those are two dramatic organizational shaping decisions that not only affect you short-term but long-term because of the dead money, and yet you have your job and the coach is fired mid-season doesn't seem to make a lot of sense. Yeah. Okay, so I said this earlier.

I said, with these young men, quarterbacks, two things are true. It's usually not linear. It's bumpy. It's up. It's down. It's streaky. Second thing, who they get is their opening coach matters, especially like your Sam Darnold, 21. You didn't have a great coach in college. You go to the NFL. It's Adam Gase. It's like, that's a lot. That's a lot. So I said, here's the 11 quarterbacks, 25 and under. If by the end of today, business day, you have to sign a $300 million, you know, 160's guaranteed. I said, Drake May is my absolute.

CJ Stroud and Caleb Williams. Probably my next two, but half of these, I defended Bo Nix. I'm like, he's durable. He never gets hurt. He's excellent late in games, college and pro, and he wins a bunch of games. I know it's not pretty. But if I told you, are there two guys you could write that check for today of those 11? Yeah, I wouldn't be signing a check for Drake May at this point.

Drake May to me is this year's Jaden Daniels, and Jaden Daniels was last year's C.J. Stroud. That's all it was. And he's hot right now, and everybody loves Drake May, just like we love Jaden, just like we love CJ. But you've got to be able to see these guys do it consistently and continue to improve. Look at the list of guys who've gotten big money. Love, Tua, Herbert, Trevor, Purdy. the 49ers paying Purdy over a quarter of a billion dollars, and now Mac Jones goes out there,

and he's playing at a really high level for 3% of what Purdy's making. So you make these decisions that then affect everything moving forward because those guys have to be forced multipliers because you can't then go pay everybody else. The quarterback just makes too much money. So to me, I still like Jaden Daniels a lot. probably be my top guy on that list. And then after that, it's a, it's a crap shoot.

It's, uh, who knows whether these guys are going to continue to elevate or whether we're going to see, you know, the sputtering out. You'd like to think CJ Stroud is a franchise guy, but there's been a lot of ups and downs that I didn't expect, uh, you know, at this level to be. Yeah. Hey, we were talking about Green Bay is that they're broken. They haven't scored on their opening. drive since Dallas week four.

So the scripted stuff's not good. The running game's not good. Kraft is a great tight end out for the year. Reed, a clever receiver. He's banged up. Golden didn't play. Is it LaFleur? Is it love? Is it the injuries?

Like, how do you solve mid-season a broken offense? The Tucker Kraft injury was a really bad one. He was looking like a pretty big safety blanket for Jordan Love. And when you look at Jordan Love over the course of his career, he's typically either red hot or mid.

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And that, to me, big, big arm, can move a little, lots of college starts. That's an NFL quarterback. That last drive against Penn State on the road. I mean, Eric, it was just boom, boom, boom. And I mean, he had people in his face. Like that offensive line got pushed around. They couldn't run the ball. It was like that drive was, that was a Sunday drive.

Dante more reportedly might stay. A lot of these college kids now with NIL, they might stay. And I said, well, I may go Mac Jones. I go Mendoza Mac Jones. But my broader point was that's what Indiana did. They said, we're not going to draft another quarterback. We're going to get somebody in the league Daniel Jones. Seattle said, we're not going to draft another quarterback.

We're going to get Sam Darnal. That's what Tampa said. Jason Light, the GM. Let's go get Baker. So Mendoza, to me, is a slam dunk. Max Jones would be my second pick. The rest of these guys aren't ready to star. Let's talk Sam Darnold, who I would have never, and I stayed with him the whole time. But I don't think he's just a reclamation project.

I think he looks like a top five quarterback. Now, maybe he's not, but you broke down some film this week. What do you see all your years in the NFL? What do you see with Donald? Yes. damn darn old elevation really started at the end of carolina he was four and two at carolina and he and he goes as a good outstanding season last year now the end of the season that that hurt him and i think i think there's that's still the big question mark with him and now he moves to seattle

and what he's been so good at is is the deep ball in and he passes over 10 yards he's first in completions he's first in yards he's first in touchdowns he's first in quarterback rating he's got all all those things going for him. You know, he struggled a little bit in the second half, and we're going to have to see how it goes when he gets to the playoffs. But let me show you a deep ball play that he had against the Cardinals, which is a really good look at what he can do and why he's so effective. So this is actually the first drive of the game,

and they just literally crossed midfield a couple of plays earlier. They're going to run hard sell play action. And with the hard sell play action, they're going to end up blocking 8. So they're going to block the five offensive linemen, the two tight ends, and the running back is going to stay in as well. And then Sam does a really good job on these play action fakes. You can see him extend the arm out here. He's selling it.

And now Seattle's just going to run a two-man route. So they've got Shaheed running the over. And then Jackson Smith and Jigba. He's going to push vertically. Then he's going to drive out to freeze the cornerback. Then he's going to push up the field. But it's simply a two-man route. And then with the Cardinals, they're actually very effective at stopping deep balls.

They're bringing pressure here, and they actually get more pressures because so many guys bite on the play action, and they've got a three-deep zone behind it. So they're in a great defense to stop the deep ball. Seattle rolls Darnold out to his left. He's a right-handed quarterback. Typically, you throw this moving him to his dominant arm, not away from his dominant arm. Looking in Jigba, he pushes out. Now that frees the cornerback, the quarterback who is high on him,

and you can see Darnold's going to let this go. Even though in Jigba's not on top of the cornerback right now, he's got the confidence that he's going to be. But here's what's so important. He's outside the numbers. He's on top of the cornerback, but he's outside the numbers because he's got to stay away from this post safety who could potentially, if he's got a good break and fairly range,

he'd get to the bottom of the numbers or maybe a little bit wider. But watch how Sam places this ball even further away from the post safety is coming over and drops it right. inside of Njigba's arms. It's really impressive, not only his placement, but the fact that he did that rolling to his left as a right-handed quarterback,

and he can hit you at any point with these home-run balls that a lot of guys can't do. Yeah, no, he is, there is no question. John Snyder, the GM, got a third-round pick for Gino. He got Sam, basically, for less money than Gino. they hit it out of the park. And also Sam's in his prime. Sam is still, Sam came into the league.

So I think he's only 27 or 28. When you watch him play, you can see he's right in the middle of his prime. And he hasn't been banged up enough. So the injuries linger. When I watch him play, I see an elite quarterback. That's what I see. And he's given every former first round draft pick who struggled, hope. Because he went through everything.

He had multiple stops. And look, if you stay with these guys that are, extremely talented. Everybody develops at different rates. And you may hit on Gino Smith did it and Sam's doing it. Baker, his second act has been impressive. So all these guys and everybody's labeling as a bust, who knows which one's going to hit next.

Good stuff. Eric Mangini. Thanks, Coach. Great seeing it, Tom. All right. J-Mack, sitting around. He's ready to go with the news. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. Well, technically, I'm not sitting around, listening, researching,

and also paying attention to A.J. Brown, Colin, more drama with the Eagles wide receiver. Are you ready for this? So I know you are up on Twitch and all these videos. Oh, yeah, love it. Well, AJ Brown is popping off everywhere, and he was taking part in a Madden video game live stream with one of these social media influencers who asked him, hey, man, how were things going? A.J. Brown said it's a poop show. Struggling, brother.

This is like on a live stream to hundreds of thousands. I have no idea how many people watch this influencer. Brown also said, if you've got me on Fantasy Man, get rid of me. This came on the heels of the Monday Night Football Game. Where remember, the Eagles called that bizarre play at the end of the game. Instead of punting, they just threw a deep ball to A.J. Brown. It makes you wonder, was that basically? Basically, hey, AJ, just shut the bleep up.

We're going to throw it deep to you. And if we fail, who cares, the package. That's right. That's how I viewed it. Yeah. Just such a weird situation. Now, here we go. Zach Berman, who covers the Eagles, said Nick Siriani is getting bombarded within here

the last hour. AJ Brown questions. Here's Siriani. He's starting to lose it, Colin. I'm close to being done answering questions about this. He's working hard. He's a big part of this game plan, and he'll be a big part of the game plan. forward. He's working crazy when he's here. We have this out.

I'm close to being done answering these questions with us. Like he's working hard and he is a big part of this game plan and it'll be a big part of the game plan going forward and he's working like crazy when he's here and I'm excited to have him. He sure sounds like it, doesn't he? It's like when somebody interviews you, are you excited to have J-Mack and you're like, yeah, Yeah, I'm really excited now. I fired up. Listen, I keep defending. I think it's going to be okay. It's not. It's not okay.

I mean, you seem like a crazy person trying to trade him in like week two. And everybody's like, Coward is losing it. I got crushed for it. I'm like, guys, you're trying to talk yourself into it. It is a bad fit. He doesn't mean he's a bad guy. I like A.J. Brown. I like Stefan Diggs.

But their fit matters for wide receivers. Wait, you can't win the Super Bowl. Obviously, Seekwon Barkley was great. go to another Super Bowl with him and call it a bad fit. No, no, no, no, no. That's false. Everybody's on their best behavior when you're winning and it's early. But relationships, marriages, businesses, you have to view them broadly over the course of time.

A.J. Brown last year, they're winning. He's getting good looks. But now Devante Smith has developed. And now the run game's not as good. And the offense is sputtering. And he wants the ball more. This has developed into a, we've seen this. Tio wasn't a problem with the Niders initially.

Stefan Diggs wasn't an issue with Buffalo initially. Randy Moss was great in New England initially. But temperamental wide receivers, they want the ball, they're on an island, so it is developed into a poor fit. It's so weird, if you look at the contenders, we're like, oh, I don't know, Jordan Love could be a problem for the Packers. questions about the Lions play calling. You know, Dan Campbell's taking over.

There aren't any questions about specific position players on any of these contenders, except A.J. Brown. I will say this, Con, I think we agree. They're going to need him to win the Super Bowl or even get to it, right? What's the path to the Super Bowl without A.J. Brown? Devonte Smith. Oh, please. Come on. He's not even a number one receiver.

Well. I mean, Seekwon Barkley barely can run the football. There's nowhere to go. I don't know. I mean, they're probably going to get a buy in the first round and play the second round. I don't know that there are a lot, Colin. This is loaded NFC Rams, Seahawks. Hell, the lions are not bad.

I'm worried about A.J. Brown. Clean it up, brother. All right. Next story, Colin, is the New York Giants. Big news here in the last 90 minutes. Mike Kafka has announced that James Winston is going to be the starter against the Green Bay Packers this weekend. Jackson Dart in the Concussion Protocol because he, literally lives in the blue tent.

James bypassing Russell Wilson in the pecking order. Russell Wilson filled in. I think he filled in on a drive and then had three drives to end the game against the bears. He had a total of like seven yards or something like that in 12 plays. That's not great for Russ. I think do they cut him and let him go be a backup somewhere else? I don't know. Let me ask you.

Let me ask you. How many quarterbacks have played their way out of the Hall of Fame? That's tough, man. I played his way out of the Hall of Fame. Isn't this the pregnancy thing? You're either pregnant or you're not. You're either in the Hall of Fame or you're not. Russell Wilson was a go either way leaving Seattle.

Denver disaster. Pittsburgh disaster. Giants disaster. Yeah, not great. I mean, Philip Rivers, either way, goes to Indy, goes 11 and 5. And, like, for a year, saves the Colts. That's absolutely a credit. on the argument.

Oh, that's a good one. Russell Wilson or Philip Rivers if you had to. Yeah, Philip Rivers went to a second place and was a one-year wonder. Did he get to a Super Bowl? Well, it can't all be that. Was he ever like a top three MVP finalist or anything? I mean, again, Philip Rivers probably doesn't get in. But one of the arguments for him is, bro, he was least athletic guy in the league went to Indy.

Yeah. And won 11 games and went to Buffalo and was in for a dog fight against Josh Allen. Yeah. Russell would go either way. Denver Steelers Giants. It doesn't help. Yeah, no, no. I'm a russ guy, not just because I look a little bit like him, I've been told.

But I think he had such a good run. An underdog came out of the middle rounds. Spectacular took heat from Richard Sherman and all the Legion of Boone. I'm not saying yes or no. I'm just saying it's just watching him now getting usurped by James Winston. Not great. Drop an S&S. SAT vocab words out here in hour number three.

Geez. All right. Final story is Rob Grunkowski. Pretty cool. He's officially retired from the NFL. He signed a one-day contract to officially retire as a Patriot. Today, here's Grunk on retiring in Foxborough. This means a lot to me big time because I'm a New England patriot. I'm a patriot for life. My career started here 100% needed to end here.

There's no doubt about that. I mean, the whole grunt persona, everything about myself was all because of you guys, was all because of the fans here in New England, was all because of my teammates accepting me and everyone else here, you know, just accepting who I was from the very beginning and embracing it and letting me just play the game of football out on the football field. My favorite part of Grong, because I've been on the set with him a couple times, is when you go back to those New England days and he was, I mean, he was dominant. It was just hard to defend him in his prime.

He would hurt people. And some of his soundbites after games where he knew he was going to get in trouble. And I mean, Belichick's got a couple of laugh-out-loud stories. Brady and Belichick have stories about Gronk at practice. You know, he's a practical joke guy. Yeah. But I'm trying to think of the best tight ends I've ever seen. Kellen Winslow, Grunk, Tony Gonzalez.

Shannon Sharp's guy. Shannon Sharp. Travis Kelsey Antonio Gates Yeah, there's been a lot of good ones I'll say this, I was only on a TV set with him once but somebody smart pointed him and said You see, J-Mack, you see what he's doing?

He's authentic. That's the real dude. He's not faking the funk, he's not trying to clean it up. Just do you. Because Gronk is doing him, he's going to be a TV star And obviously he's doing a great job after his NFL career here at Fox. Genuinely good guy. J-Mack with the news. Well, that's the news.

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but this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers.

This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey Jonas, and then I wrote down on my little notepad Hey Jonas and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast.

But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Hey, I'm Deanna Maria Riva, actress, mother, lover, and a Gen X woman walking through life, one hot flash and hormonal crying jag at a time. You ladies know what I mean. I'll bet you a perimenopausal chin here you do. So let's talk about it.

Join me on my new podcast. How Hard Can It Be with Deanna Maria Riva, where I call on my Gen XX. squads from Ohio to Hollywood as we navigate midlife's most fantastic BS. All of a sudden, I'd had hanginess happening on my own. I was like, what the hell is that? I was married when I had her, so I didn't even consider how empty that nest was going to be. Mood swings, night sweats, fupas, sex drive. Wait, what sex?

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This is a podcast. We're recording it as we tailgate our youth soccer games in the back of my Honda Odyssey. With all the snacks and drinks. Sidebar. Why did you get hard seltzer instead of beer? Oh, they had a bogo. Well, then you got it. Do you want a white color or something here?

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His IQ is at a level that we've never seen before. And he knows without Luca and Austin Reeves, I got to manipulate the game. We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs. I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup, he has to really guard guys like Nas Reid. He has to guard Julius Randall. And then he has to give us everything he gives us on the night-to-night basis on offense.

And when IT's friends stop by, like Quentin Richardson, we dive into some playoff history too. Steve Nass would get that thing. That man, hell get the flying. He running up the court, licking his fingers while he got the ball. After you go through a training camp with that, Isaiah, you figure it out real quick.

Get your ass up and down the court, and you're going to get the ball. So listen to Point Game on the, iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is Saigon, the story of my family and of the country that shaped us. The United States will not stand by and allow any power, however great, take over another country. From IHeart Podcast, Saigon. Please allow me to introduce Joseph Sherman. You don't think I'm serious about a free Vietnam? I should stop talking so much.

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Listen to Saigon on the I-Heart. radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You know, it's interesting through the years, when I've chatted with NFL draft directors or scouts or executives, it's interesting with quarterbacks how often they will point to a specific play or specific drive. I remember this with Josh Allen specifically and say, we're going to draft him based on two throws he made it,

Wyoming. Like he's raw. He makes a lot of mistakes, but he makes a couple of throws at Wyoming where people are like, I've never seen anything like that. Nobody in the NFL can make that throw. And so when I was watching Saturday, watching Fernando Mendoza, Penn State knew he had to throw, he's on the road, major pass rush, and he's just throwing dart after dart after dart. Penn State knows he's throwing. Penn State's coverage all knows. He's throwing the ball. He's not running the ball. You're not fooling anybody. And he's just throwing. is running and moving and throwing and that drive alone to me is like oh that's the number one pick in the draft just big boy throws uh and penn state had all the momentum in that game all of it

uh Indiana couldn't run this drive they had no choice but to throw even the game winner he's throwing it back foot jumping in the air getting clobbered uh and nothing against tie simpson at bama but i haven't seen that I haven't seen a throw where I'm like whoa he's got a cleaner pocket. He's got higher rated teammates. I think, you know, Alabama's Alabama. Ty Simpson's got a cleaner pocket. He probably got better elite quality receiving targets. And I'm not saying the schedule hasn't been tougher. And I'm not saying that Ty Simpson can't play. Ty Simpson spent three years at Bamma as a backup when doing anything. And he's older. So he should be a little bit better. But when I look at those two, a Mendoza just jumps off the TV screen.

and that final drive against Penn State was, wow, that is Sunday stuff. Here's Joel Clatt earlier on those two quarterbacks. Mendoza started two years at Cal and now a year at Indiana, so he's highly experienced. I value that a lot more than even just these few games of tape that Ty Simpson has played at Alabama, who doesn't have that body of work from a starts perspective. Now, that doesn't mean that Mendoza is definitely going to be better than Ty Simpson, It means that those two decisions for Mendoza, whether he wants to come out or not, and Ty Simpson are different because of their experience level and how much experience they have.

You have to be careful about getting sucked in to a big win. Like Johnny Manzell beat Bam at Bam and everybody's like, wow, it's like, well, what are the traits? Johnny Manzell's tiny. Mendoza's huge. Manzell's arm is okay. Mendoza's is huge. Like, like, you can't be blown away by. individual moments, you also have to go back to traits.

But it's hard to watch that and not just see an NFL starting quarterback, like very quickly. And by the way, two years at Cal and then one year at Indiana, he's not playing with five-star guys. He's got good coaches at both places, but he's doing it with a lot of three-star recruits. And I don't know, just on the road, have to throw big pass rush, big, accurate, great throws. you know, that only one person can catch him. I was blown away by it. But, you know, these young quarterback, Eric Mangini was just on, we talked about if you look at the 11 quarterbacks in this league,

25 or under, and if, you know, let's say you're the GM, and you had to make a decision on every one of them, do you give them the big contract today? Or do you just go back to the draft? It's hard. I mean, most of these guys can't stay healthy. Drake May's healthy. Caleb's healthy, Bow Knicks healthy.

Everybody else been banged up. And here's Mangini on young quarterback play and extensions and when to know you got the right guy. You've got to be able to see these guys do it consistently and continue to improve. Look at the list of guys who've gotten big money. Love, Tua, Herbert, Trevor, Purdy. The 49ers paying Purdy over a quarter of a billion dollars,

and now Mack Jones goes out there, and he's playing at a really high level. level for 3% of what Purdy's making. So you make these decisions that then affect everything moving forward because those guys have to be forced multipliers because you can't then go pay everybody else. Yeah, it's just interesting with young quarterbacks. I mean, Jaden Daniels 10 months ago, no-brainer.

10 months ago, Caleb Williams bordering on, oh, this isn't going to work at all. Okay, a lot change. So it's just everybody now is out on Bo Nix and I'm like durable in college and the pros, excellent fourth quarter numbers and wins a lot at Oregon and wins a lot in Denver. Be very careful about just now. Now, I said if this continues for the next seven weeks, what if he's good this weekend against Kansas City?

Last year he had a passer rating at like 130 against the Chiefs and Spags. So the Bo Nix one's fascinating because I really like Bo Nix. But he's really regressed this year. So my take is let's just let's see another seven, eight games. And if this is just what it is, you know, then Denver, with our second or third pick, maybe like let's get some competition in the quarterback room. But you've got to be careful. Undervalued is durability.

Caleb Williams does not get hurt. Bo Nix does not get hurt. that is a that is an under and that is a skill don't kid yourself avoiding contact known out of sack get rid of the ball bo nix does not take sacks he and you can say oh it's the old line he just doesn't take sacks he gets rid of that thing fast and for the record that probably speaks to some of his deep ball issues probably could give it another beat his thing is i don't want to get sacked i don't want negative plays which by the way is the number of one improvement all year for Caleb Williams. It's not flashy plays. It's not accuracy. It's not.

Caleb's number one improvement. He's not taking negative plays. And that's Bo Nix's strength. Durable doesn't take negative plays. Gets rid of the ball. It doesn't get sacked. I did, I hope J. Mack noticed that. But even Eric Mangini noticed that you're paying Mack Jones 3% of Brock Purdy, and Mac looks good. Like, really good. I can't reason with you on this time. So I'm just going to stand down. You don't like Purdy. You have a beef with him because he can't hold the football in rain because he's not 6'4 and strapping and built like an Adonis.

I can't do anything about that. But I can just put his numbers up. If you want to put his career NFL numbers and you don't get to cherry pick, oh, let's pick these stats that make Caleb look better. Unequivocally, Brock Purdy has been a better NFL quarterback than Caleb Williams. Full stop.

It's not even close. For the record, Bo Nix's passer rating over this seven-game winning streak. it's not terrible, it's 87. I mean, C.J. Stroud, the last two years is bordering in 89. So, I mean, it's just the Bo Nix negativity. And when I said it, I'm like, if I get this for another seven weeks, maybe your third pick in the draft.

Hey, Denver's got a pretty stacked roster. Woof. And I like Bo Nix. Hey, guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick.

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It's our favorite time of the year on our podcast point game, the playoffs. We're digging into the biggest surprise of those. the season. And I'm looking back on some of my greatest playoff moments. If we didn't talk ever again, I was part of you. You just understood. That's how personal it got. Wow. Then after that game 7, Marquis come in to him, he's like, you know I love

you, dog. You know, it's all love. This was just playoffs. This was just basketball. So listen to Point Game on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Here's something that should not be as complicated as it is, getting a racist statue removed. And here's

something that should be a whole lot easier than it getting a new one put up in its place. I'm Akila Hughes, and Rebel Spirit Season 2 is about both of those things. As I was watching these statues come down, I was thinking about what it meant that I grew up in a majority black city in which there were more homages to enslavers than there were to enslave people. Listen to Rebel Spirit Season 2 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Every family has its secrets. But what happens when you discover that your dad has been living a double life? That is not the look of an innocent man. Is everyone lying to me about who they are? I felt such desperation. I felt it was what I had to do. Listen to Deep Cover the Family Man on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Someday into right now with Buddy by Jake Radio.

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