The Herd with Colin Cowherd - The Herd - Hour 3 - Tom Brady has options

Episode Date: January 26, 2023

The Panthers have hired Frank Reich as their new head coach More on the Conference Championship games this Sunday Colin grades the best options left for Tom Brady     Guest: Will BlackmonSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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One of my favorite guys, Will Blackman in studio. Love, he's got great film stuff. All over the Niners, Eagles. It's the herd wherever you may be, however you may be listening. Iheart Radio, Fox Sports Radio, FS1. You know, I was thinking about this. So we have been sitting here. A lot of people are like, why aren't these jobs being filled in the NFL?

usually you get very quick opening coax. Well, the reason is Sean Peyton. So he's interviewed with Arizona. He's interviewed with Carolina. He is interviewed twice with the Denver Broncos. Because Sean is overwhelmingly the best candidate. So if you have, and so everybody's kind of waiting for the domino to fall. And Sean Payton and Denver, a lot of people, I know this, I had dinner with Sean.

He likes Denver. They like him. They would choose him today. Russell Wilson, I'm told, would choose Sean Payton today. It's up to Sean. But when I had dinner with him, you know, we talked about a lot of things, most of them private. But one of the things I said is you do have to be careful about just chasing a paycheck. So they have the Walmart owners.

And the reports are they would have paid Harbaugh $18 million. Sean Payton will be north of $20 million. That's resetting the market. But you have to be careful. I was thinking about this during the break, is that Phil Jackson went to the Knicks for a check. It was an abject disaster. Everything told you.

James Dolan, roster, cap issues, draft pick inefficiencies. Everything told you. There were warning signs everywhere. When Chip Kelly went back to the San Francisco 49ers, he didn't like the NFL. He chose the check. bombed. When he went to UCLA, Florida offered him a job

and more money. He chose lifestyle. He's been successful. He's very happy at UCLA. It fits him. It's not do or die. It's not everything. Right? So he chose lifestyle UCLA. He's got him rolling now in the transfer portal. He chose lifestyle over money. Nick Saban

goes to the NFL. He wanted power, leverage money. Bombed. Robinson Cano jumps out to me. Just took a check in Seattle. Arod. Rod. It's money. What happens is when you choose something for money, not only is there an expectation, but you put stress on yourself.

A lot of the steroid users in baseball take big contracts because of the pressure of the contract. They get into slumps and then they veered in the steroid era toward help assistance, in organic assistance because they felt the pressure of the big contract. I think Sean now, I believe you should take a year off. I think like the Knicks job for Phil Jackson, Phil's obviously a brilliant guy. Sean's a brilliant guy. There's all these warning signs with the Broncos, draft capital issues, salary cap, O line issues, Russell's self-awareness issues, is he washed, new owners, rich, but you don't

know much about him. The GM now is semi-powerless. now we think highly of the Broncos compared to the Knicks, but there were all sorts of like warning signs. Steve Kerr was offered the job with the Knicks to be coach. He's like, get me out of here. Steve Kerr, quality of life, Warriors is great. I'm not taking a check.

Almost as a rule, if money is the leading driver, you're in big trouble. And so my take away to Sean Payton would be selfishly, there's going to be two great quarterback next year. They may have new coaches. You could be one of them. And by the way, once you get a Caleb Williams or Drake May, they're free for four years.

You're not, you can surround a roster and you can build the dream roster. You can't do that now. In Denver, you have complete cap limitations for four years, not just this year. Russell's contract gets worse this year going forward. This was the best year of it. So, word just came down. Tom Pellasaro and Adam Schaeft. the Panthers hiring Frank Reich as head coach.

I think that's a great hire. I love Frank. So that's a very good. A, they got the right side of the ball. B, sometimes in business, you have to take advantage of other people's mistakes. Jimmer says mistake. David Tapper, the owner, is going to take advantage of it. So that's a very strong hire.

They're also very good defensively. So that's not Frank's side of the ball. But he inherits a very weak division, a very weak division, a very well. wealthy owner, an excellent front seven defensively with some young, talented corners. He's got a couple of weapons. You got the coach. Now just go get a quarterback. Derek Carr, Jimmy Garoppolo.

That's a good hire. Carolina also has the ninth pick in the draft. They're going to have free agent money to spend. I think that's a great hire, Frank Reich, smart move. That's a really, really good hire. Yeah, I mean, we said that this year. Carolina is one of those teams that you're a lot of. like, oh, they just need a quarterback.

Yeah. Like the roster is fine. And the division gets very weak when Tom Brady is out of there. It's basically New Orleans. Let's be honest. I'm Derek Carr. That's incredibly attractive to me.

I get a defense. I've never had a defense with the Raiders. Also, they got DJ Moore. Wait, you just talked about moving your family uprooting. That's tough. Carr, mostly a West Coast guy, his entire life. You know, I hear Charlotte's lovely in the fall.

No, it's a nice city. It's a nice city. and it's a weak. I mean, that division, if Brady retires, that is the worst quarterback division, arguably, ever. It's terrible. Desmond Ritter, Andy Dalton, Derek Carr, and, you know, who's a guy in Tampa?

Who's the guy in Tampa? Is it, you said Trask? He might be the starter in Tampa? That is a very good hire. Frank Reich, got a defense, get me a quarterback, ninth pick. By the way, the ninth pick, so mock draft, prime example. So Houston's going to take a quarterback for sure.

The Colts are going to take a quarterback. You wouldn't have to move up far to get like a Will Levis or a C.J. Stroud. Ninth, you probably have to get to seventh or eighth. What do you give up? You're not going to give up much. Yeah, Vegas is at seven. I don't see McDaniels drafting one. Eight, Atlanta, they just took Ritter.

They seemed to like what they saw. Just move over them. Just move. I would move right behind the Colts. And make a run for a quarterback. And then build around him. I think this, I think in that division, that roster with Frank, that's a playoff team. They just got to get a quarterback.

They were in the playoff mix until like week, what, 15, 16. I know, with a mess at quarterback. All right, let's, that's good hire. Let's bring on Will Blackman's Super Bowl champion. One of my favorite people, 12 NFL seasons. There he is. What's up, Guy? He's a fourth rounder.

That's why you're such a grinder, by the way. You were ignored by a lot of these scouts. Not on this show. We never ignore you. You know what's funny is, uh, Speaking of that, go into like games. Like we were playing, we played the Cardinals my last year when I was on the Washington Redskins. I played for the Redskins.

And I forget who it was, but one of the scouts were like, yeah, man, we had a second grade, you know, second round grade on you. Why didn't they take you? Yeah, I know. It's funny when you hear of that. Yeah. I took a, I took a pre-draft visit to the Steelers because Bill Carr liked me as a receiver because they had a 32 pick in the first round. So it's just funny. They ended up getting some 20 of homes that worked out, so it's all good.

Yeah, he's pretty good. You did, yeah. So, you know, you had Mike McCarthy. Yep. So I have said... By the way, they just got rid of all his homeboys in Dallas. He got rid of some coaches. Like, guys that had been with him when I got drafted.

Okay, so that means he's staying. Jerry asked for changes. Jerry wanted some changes. You're not changing Dan Quinn. Of course not. So Jerry basically went to him and said, Mike, you got to make some changes here. So he did. He probably didn't want to, but he did.

did. So I've defended him, and one of the reasons I've defended him is he got beat up so badly in the Aaron Rogers divorce. Well, Aaron's struggling at the end, last couple years at the end of the year, and Mike's got Cooper Rush going four and one. When you look at the Niners in that last play, it looks ridiculous. You're a film junkie. You sit on your phone all day with film. When you look at Dallas, do they look well coached on film? Here's the thing. I think they, they are they can be too simple when they need to be creative okay and they can be too creative when they need to be simple okay if that makes sense that's why they have a lot of penalties are they trying too hard sometimes yeah you know i i would say especially in that game when they lost

tony paul that was massive because he's their number one home run hitter right right right right on offense so that's why it was interesting in halftime when when coach mccarthy was asked like well things changed he said no one's going to change anything i'm like yeah right like a lot's going to change because you don't have that homeowner hitter you can line up all over the field and I felt like maybe they try to use some of the creative runs with Zeke and right now that's not what Zeke does he's a short yardage back now you're not getting any right and and to his credit it's like he hasn't been as healthy as he has been the past three years I would say and and then in terms of using CD Lamb it's kind of like guys were just just spying on it I mean he had a lot of receptions he had or he was a big reason why they were still in that game But I almost looked like he got exhausted towards the end of the game in terms of him having to work so hard because his routes weren't as crisp, you know, as the game went on. Okay. You know, I feel like in this off season, the things that CD can work on, I was big on like, okay, he has, he's super gifted in terms of like the things he can do athletically.

I still go back to that catch he made Oklahoma, the one-hander on the side of the day. Well, he made a catch against the Niners up to the sideline. Oh, right, yeah. Unbelievable. Right. And I just feel like, you know, strength is massive. he should get way stronger and then just learn how to just be crisp in his routes for a full 60 minute. So it was tough.

You know, they got Dalton Schultz, you know, ready in the red zone. They don't look poorly coached when you look at your- They don't. So to answer the question, they don't look poorly coached, I just feel like in terms of just keeping it simple. Because the one thing that Dallas has, Dallas has athletes all over the field, you know. And I just, I don't know, sometimes you just got to line up and just like punch the body. face, you know, versus trying to be super creative. So, um, you faced a lot of quarterbacks.

You paid Packers, Giants, Jags, Washington. And it, it happens a lot. Kyle Allen and Carolina gets a month or five starts. And he kind of wows us. For sure. Heineke. But there's a reason they got drafted lower, undersized average arm. We're all falling for Brock Purdy.

But in the end, he went to Iowa State. He's six one, about two-fifteen. Um. But he's first team, Big 12? He got some accolades. It wasn't like he was out there. By the way, they were one in three his freshman year. He took over.

They went seven and one. No doubt. He's a gamer. But when you face these guys that, you know, they get inserted in their later round picks, you at some point know you can jump a route. I mean, when you look at Purdy, what are the things you see that you're like, okay, that's a hole. That's what he doesn't do. You tell me.

Yeah, I mean... Again, you look at film about as much as any former player. But especially when I look at the quarterback position, the biggest attribute I look at is his mindset. You know, is he ahead of schedule like Joe Burrow? You know, does he see things before they happen, you know, like a Tom Brady or painting man. Like, it's all the mindset because everyone could throw, you know,

for the most part. Everyone could throw in the NFL. So I see him and I look at a guy who is... who's well prepared. I give a lot of credit to Kyle Shanahan for having him well prepared to go into the game. And he just looks super comfortable. Like that's, for me, that's enough. If I have a guy under center who's just comfortable with what we have to do,

that's a big deal, you know? And the one thing that stood out to me too was when Brock Pretty took over, George Kittle was in the media saying like, okay, it is our job. The star is to step up and take over now. You know, we have to step up and do our part. We shouldn't put it all on him having to make all these plays. But he is making plays. So I just, when I look at the 49ers overall, I just see a well-prepared, well-coached team.

Of course, he's the quarterback. You're going to look at him. You're going to, you know, evaluate what he's doing. But overall, they're just well-prepared. And he looks like he knows exactly what he needs to do when it's time. Eagles-niner. So the Eagles have eight pro bowlers and nine alternates. Yeah, it's a 9ers. Nineers have a pro bowler in every single unit, every one.

So it's about as talented a game as I can ever recall. No question. It feels like there were a few Steeler Raven matchup years ago where you had like nine Hall of Famers. Exactly. Right. So I look at, whereas I look at the AFC and it's a battle of great quarterbacks, I think the NFC is a battle of great rosters. Totally.

They're just insane. You have literally potentially 10 Hall of Famers in this game. Go to your career. and you were a very good player. In a game where it was, you're looking around. I mean, Ray Lewis told me a couple of games, he'd look around. It's like, man, I met my match physically. And Ray didn't have a lot of matches.

For sure. Can you go back when you plan these games where it's iconic? I'm sure you have a couple with Green Bay, where you knew there's eight pro bowlers on the field, in Hall of Famers. There was a game. My second year in Green Bay, we went down to Dallas. 2007, and this is when Brett Fav got hurt and Aaron Rogers came in. And just, just the atmosphere. One, I just remember how big the Cowboys football team was. You know, I mean, you had Demarcus

where, you had T.O. You know, we had Charles Woodson. We had Brett Fav. You had just guys all over the place, you know, and it was. And it was, you know, you knew as a pro athlete, it was different. No question. You know, you had, you know, Jay Z was at the game and, you know, just all kinds of stuff. Like, it was just, it was a crazy atmosphere environment. And there was just tons of stars everywhere. and I'm like, okay, like this is, like this is what it is. You know, this is, yeah, I'm like, this is, I got to get myself, you know, right. So I had a few games like that, but that was one that stood out right now when you asked that question. Yeah, I tend to like Phil, I think Brock Purdy's going to be, I think it'll be a little bit of a reality check for him.

Yeah. I think Jalen's played more of these big games. Jailen's a more natural. Jalen's a greater athlete. He's a greater player. I think Philadelphia, I just think to myself, you're asking, a lot of Brock Purdy. You think so?

As a rookie to go to Philadelphia with 17 pro bowl players. He got people to give the ball to, though. That's what helps. And he has a hell of an offense line helping him. Like, that's, it's going to be a... What is the Niners offense do? Because I saw you looking at film before you came on.

Right. It's the power, I mean, even use check. Right. Everyone is on deck. Like, if you're dressed on offense and you're a skill guy, you're getting the football. one way or another. Like, be ready.

Like, you're going to get the football. Right now, what I love, and we'll see how Christian McCaffrey feels with his calf, but I love the fact that Elijah Mitchell got healthy. Yes. And that's a huge because he's a home run hitter. You know, when I saw them drafted, I was like, you know what? Let me look at his film. And I saw he ran a 4-3.

He could hit the home run, and he was perfect for this offense. So that's a one-two punch that I like. Obviously, Debo coming back. So they have a ton of weapons. But I will say this about the Eagles. And I know we love, you know, we love cool stories. we love, you know, like the Niners going through adversity, like all kinds of stuff going on. But the one thing we fail to celebrate is like consistency.

And the Eagles have been the best team all year long. Like from jump. As long as Jaylen plays. But they overall, like you mentioned rosters, though, just built rosters. Like they have been the best team. Sure, they struggle when Jaylin was in the game a little bit. But they have the best roster and they've been the best team. So it's kind of like, I almost feel like it's Philly's time again because they just have the best team and they just know what to do.

Like what they did against New York, they were like, all right, like it's cool. Like, all right, God, let's get rid of you guys. Get out of here. No, I mean, it was like outside of Sequan Barclay, I'm not sure the Giants have a starter on that team. Giants look like what we thought they were going to look like in the beginning of year. Yeah. That's what it was. Yeah. I mean, even Dexter Lawrence would probably start, but the Eagles have really good linemen.

They have like too deep. Every, they're just, it's, it's, it's, I feel the Eagles are a Jalen Hertz GM story, more than a Nick Sariani story. Not a shot of them, but these rosters are, I feel the Niners are a defense. I feel the Niners are a GM and a coach story. Yeah, I mean, how we got the guys and Nick didn't mess it up. The, um, do you have a lean Kansas City, Cincinnati? The video on Mahomes, he's not limping. Full participant in practice. You know this. High ankle sprains. There's grade one is mild. You can play. He had a hundred pass. rating, 108 passer rating, with the ankle sprain. So my takeaway is from the video, Andy Reid said the one four years ago was worse than now. And the one four years ago after the ankle sprained, seven days later, we threw for 440 yards. So my takeaway is Mahomes will be fine. You've played with probably a grade one ankle sprain at some point. Right.

Yeah. I mean, so I don't think, maybe I'm wrong. I'm not, I'm not trying to marginalize the injury. I just, I kind of watched Mahomes fighting on the side. Like, let me in and it might take away us. He didn't want to take that cleat off. For sure, right. What is your gut feeling about his injury in the game going into it?

Well, I mean, the one thing is like, is he able to, you know, step back and throw, play and throw? Like, that's the base thing. And will he have velocity? I think of last year, or even, you know, when they lost the Super Bowl to the Tempe Buccaneers, Mahomes running around scrambling and doing all these things. outside of pocket, it's cool, but it wasn't always as efficient as it needed to be. And even last year, when they were going through that losing streak where everyone was like,

oh, you know, they're not going to do well. They might barely finish above 500. They made an adjustment mid-season where they just got back to the fundamentals. And Mahomes was dropping back and just, you know, thinking and Duncan, going through his reeds, doing all these, doing all these things. And I feel like him not being able to run all over the place is something that it may benefit because he'll be able to sit back and get to the and gets the football to his guys. That team is built of guys who can take the ball 60, 70, 80 yards, even Kelsey. Kelsey has on.

After the catch. Kelsey is on film catching jailbreak screens and taking them 80 yards to the house. So I think it'll just be a matter of efficiency. They have a ton of a whole runnerback room, you know, that can be effective. So again, it's based on his people. management, but I also think it may benefit him because he won't be trying to do stuff above and beyond. Yeah, I think they took away. If you, Greg Kosell came on an hour ago and said, Zach Taylor in the offseason took away a lot of the deep throws for the bingles and said,

let's lean into Burroughs accuracy. And this is the best Joe Burrow we've seen. Oh, I just watched the bills game. And sure enough, I mean, he was, he was beating guys to the punch before guys are out the break. Boom. There was to be a linebacker rate there. boom he was insanely accurate that game because he is he's taking a profit you know yeah we um when you go when you faced a deadly accurate guy drrew brie brie i'll tell you right now okay or the crazy josh allen what kept you up at night accuracy or like lamar or alan or breeze brie's brady what kept you up at night so so so So I'll give you Brady.

I'll give you Breeze and I'll give you Aaron Rogers. Okay. Right. So with Brady, the hard thing going against Tom Brady is that he already knows where you're going to be. Like he knows, okay, if he's two yards, I sell the hash, he's going to be over here. And it's like, well, you can't trick him. So just play it.

Yeah. And play the percentages. That's what's tough going against Tom Brady. Drew Breeze, like you could bear hug the guy and Drew Bees will find a spot. Like he'll, I was covering. I forget who the titan was. I think it was shocking. Jimmy Graham.

Shock. It was one of the tight. in New Orleans. But anyhow, I was draped, and he drew Bies threw it to, like, his right knee. And that's where he caught the ball. And so that was super, I mean, they rocked us. I think it was like 49 to like 10, and he was just deadly accurate. Aaron Rogers is tough because he can put the football wherever he wants,

anywhere on the field at any time, going to his left, going to his right. So it's like when you're going against these teams, like these quarterbacks, you're not so much going, like, defending the scheme, you're defending the quarterbacks. Their skill set. Their skill set. And that's what makes it difficult

going against guys like that. Burroughs very much Breeze in terms of, he literally can throw every route, timing location perfectly. Yeah. But I see, but Breeze is more like the, like the Peyton Manning.

Like they have their structure, they have their system, they have their things they go about it, right? Structure. They're in the command. Burrow is more Brady, just basically. based on the poise and he's like, I know where I'm going and like there's nothing you can

really do about it. Yeah. You know? And so. Buffalo's defense was lost. Yeah, because the two touchdowns, the two early touchdowns, the one that Hayden Hurst and the one to Jemar Chays, guys were wide open. Wide open. Wide open. And by the way, it was 27. And by the way, it was 27. And then on

Haydenhurst touchdown, three guys jumped to Jamar Chase, and Hayden Hurst was wide open in the end zone. So that's tough in the playoff game when you lose, when you lose like that. Like, that's hard. All right, we got to go. Sounds good. We got you before the break. It's pleasure to see you, Will. Yeah, I'm wearing D-Wade shoes. These are pretty cool. Way of weight. What size of you? I've got to eat some shoes. Twelve flat. I got Wolf and Shepherd.

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This is the herd line news. Yeah, I guess what do they say? One man's trash is another's treasure? Is that they saying? Yeah, so the Colts dusted Reich, of course. Listen, he took him to the playoffs two times in four seasons, the fifth when he got fired. Andrew Luck had his best year. Philip Rivers had a good year with him.

Wentz went 27 touchdown, seven picks with him, and then disintegrated. Yeah, Reich essentially every single year started week one with a different quarterback. Like, how are you going to overcome that? That's just too tough. Wentz had his last great year with him. I think Andrew Luck had his most efficient ear with him. Oh, no, wait a minute. Did you just say Wentz had a good year with him?

Do you think Carolina was after? After Wence? No. I would hope not. No. No, but I'm saying Wence and Andrew Luck had, I think, their most efficient ears with him, and Philip Rivers got to the playoffs with him. So you can blame anybody you want.

He's good with quarterbacks. I would say this is definitely a better job than Arizona. Would you agree? Oh, absolutely. Yeah, Arizona's got all sorts of stuff going on. Now, what about Denver or Carolina? Oh, I think Carolina right now. I can start from scratch.

I got cap space, draft picks, bad division. What you don't have is a quarterback. Okay, but again, I can get, I can sign a two-year deal with Garoppel. I would sign a four-year deal with Derek Carr and then draft quarterbacks every year. You know, just say, hey, Derek, you're our guy. Next two years, we're going to start. But we're going to draft somebody eventually too. Now, Carr may not like that, but the market is good for Carr.

It's not six-team substantial for Carr. So I think Carolina gives Derek something he's never had, which is a good defense. If you're Derek Carr, do you want to go work with Nathaniel Hackett and the Big Apple? No. Nope. And the coach. I want a coach who got a new four-year contract. This is a very good hire by them. And they went to the right side of the ball offensive, a guy who absolutely gets the best, most efficient version of the quarterback he has.

And a fun fact here, Frank Reich, through the first touchdown pass in Carolina franchise history back in 1995. That's when you're drinking a bar right there. There you go. There you go. That's a good trivia question. Oh, boy. Joe Burrow, let's go back to Burrow versus the Chiefs. Burroughs trying to get to back-to-back Super Bowl's.

Team owner Mike Brown spoke last week about keeping Burrow in Cincinnati for his entire career, but did hint at a hometown discount. The latest on Burroughs contract extension comes from Jeremy Fowler, who reports that an anonymous NFL executive says, the expectation, oh my gosh, is Burroughs. contract will surpass Aaron Rogers League high average of 50 mil a year. Well, you're not going to keep T. Higgins, but you have Jemar Chase. What you have to do on this is hit draft picks. If you hit draft picks, they don't have a ton of guys I have to keep. I have to keep Jamar Chase. Absolutely. I would keep Henry, the rush end. But this is a roster

that you keep in Joe and you're keeping his favorite weapon. You're probably going to keep your two highest graded old lineman. You eventually will have to probably let Joe Mixen go and Sammy P. Ryan will have to be the new starter. Okay. But I mean, is it much harder? Yes. Jesse Bates in the secondary at some point. Listen, you're going to be losing guys.

Well, that's right. They spent a lot of money two years ago on free agency. You're probably not re-siding those guys. L. Collins, who's out for the season. So you're going to have to hit on draft picks. You can make it work when the quarterback's great. Kansas City had to get rid of Tyree Kael and Ward. You can make it work, but you've got to hit on certain.

Kansas City doesn't miss on a lot of drafts. Creed Humphrey, they drafted him. Best center in the league. Joe Tuny, they brought over. Best guard in the league. Like, Brett Beach had to make some amendments, but he hit on almost all of them. Let me quickly call up the Bengals draft. They got Daxton Hill last year.

He's a solid defensive back. They got another DB, Cam Taylor Britt. He made a couple of nice plays in Buffalo. The year before that, obviously, Jamar Chase, Jackson, Carmen. So it looks like the draft, the recent draft history has been solid. Evan McPherson, Evan Almighty, the good kicker. Yeah. It wasn't awesome this year, but the year prior, he was incredible.

So they've hit on some picks here. Yeah. And you've got to keep doing that. And by the way, they've hit on places like corner and tackle and Jemar Chase wide receiver. It's not just hitting on, you've got to hit on the right. You can hit on linebackers all day. You've got to hit on a corner. The margin for error goes, br.

Yeah. I mean, it's difficult. All right, Colin, the final story is the Golden State Warriors and the Grizzlies. I don't know if you saw this last night. I saw that Steph got. You had a big dinner night and a couple drinks. It was a family night, John and Vinny's. Yeah.

So Curry had 43. Yeah. But in a stunning turn of events, was ejected with about 115 left for throwing his mouthpiece in frustration. He does that once in a while. So I don't know if we have the video, but here's what Curry had to say after the game. Crucial time in the game and the way that I see. is gone. There's questions about the height and says of urgency of every detail matters and when you want something really bad. So I reacted in a way that obviously put myself out of the

game and put the team in a tough place. We needed this win in a desperate way, not just because it's Memphis and all the narratives there, but just it's about how we're playing. But to see the guys bounce back the way they did and, and, uh, finish the job. A lot of celebrations in the tunnel. Listen, I'm the biggest Curry honk ever, okay? Here's Curry throwing the mouthpiece in anger. But the details are what matters.

So Curry, when I started a podcast like over a decade ago, Curry was my first guest. So I've been a long-time fan. I don't like this at all, Colin. And here's why. The reason he threw his mouthpiece was Jordan Poole took a long three, kind of with the game on the line a minute to go. Jordan Poole.

Remember, he got in the fight with Dremont. Not really a fight. I'm not a huge Jordan Poole guy. I like Jordan Poole a lot. The company, the Warriors, they trust him. They signed him. So, Jordan Poole takes his shot. Curry's angry that it wasn't him.

Pool missed, throws his mouthpiece ejected. Jordan Poole eventually hits the game-winning layup, and the Warriors win the game. But the fact that you would get that angry that a teammate took an open-ish three and throw your mouthpiece and get ejected with the game on the line, that was uncharacteristic from Curry.

I don't like the fight. It's like, what, does that mean he doesn't trust Jordan Poole? Well, Steve Kerr, the other night. Yeah, that's right. He barked at Jordan Poole. Remember, you'll get your act together. So here's what I've heard about Jordan Poole.

Trash Talker, even to own teammates. I like that. I don't. That doesn't play with a lot of urgency or self-awareness in big spots. So Kerr barked at him two games ago. Or not, yeah, Steve Kerr, Curry barked at him here. So the brains, I mean,

guys that really run that team are Draymond, Kerr, and Steph. That being said, they need Jordan Poole. Okay, so Draymond's punched him, Curry's throwing his mouthpiece with him, and Kerr's chewing him out two nights ago. So the three guys that run that organization, that really are the, they're the catalyst of it. It's Steve Kerr, Draymond, and Curry.

The core. All frustrated with Jordan Poole. At times. Listen, we've disagreed on some stuff. I don't think we've ever disagreed more on the Draymond punch. I didn't love it. I wasn't a fan of it. You didn't hammer green the way you should have.

Punching out teammates, you know, not really cool. I do worry, though, about Poole's psyche. I got punched out by Dremont, getting chewed out by the coach, and my teammates that pissed, angry that he's throwing... I want to do what I want to do. I just think... It's just not a great thing. It might be too small and not a huge deal,

but going forward, I just... Does that mean that Curry doesn't trust Poole? I don't know. Well, it does tell you. you something, Curry gets frustrated with him, Draymond gets frustrated, Kerr gets frustrated. They will not win the championship without

Jordan Pool. No, no, that's... That's... And in the finals, I know it was the Curry show, he's obviously... Well, he's still... My knock on him is he'll give you 28, the next night he'll give you six. Like, he is inconsistent. He's not a... But, but, on his good nights, when Curry hits the bench, he's a... He can fill a basket.

Well, you know what he's doing? He's actually playing, unlike James Wiseman and Cominga, who are giving you nothing, and they were supposed to be integral this year. So the Warriors need pool. Listen, I'll put it behind me. I'm a warrior's guy. I like Curry. I don't even know.

I wouldn't even throw a day. Why would I get a technical for throwing it away from the action? Why can't I throw my... I guess it landed in the front row. It was a weird ejection with a minute left in a close game. So what are the people... That doesn't feel like a... I wouldn't have teed up a guy for that.

If you threw your mouthpiece to the bench, what do I care? Remember against the Cavs in the finals? through his mouthpiece and got a big tech. I don't remember if he was dejected, but you can't throw stuff into the crowd. I mean, you know, come on, Curry. Not disappointing. I would be the rep that let a lot of stuff slide. Players would like me a lot.

Oh, that's what you need, guys liking you. And then cursing you out, I'll let that slide. I'd be the ice cream for breakfast parent. I don't care. He threw his headband over here. So what you're saying is the day I F bomb you here on the set. You're fine with that. Yeah, I mean, everybody makes a mistake.

I don't care. I didn't say it was a mistake. I said I was upset. Would you tee a guy for throwing his mouthpiece? Of course. Am I wrong on that? Probably. If I throw it to the warrior's bench,

dang it. Well, to the warrior's bench, but this was to like the crowd. This was toward the crowd, like the front row. Like, where do you expect it to go? It was the home crowd. He wasn't trying to... God, you guys are rigid.

I mean, definitely a technical. I would not... I would say this. I would not give out a lot of technicals as a ref. I wouldn't give him... You could cuss me out all the time. You need to draw a line in the same. Were you that lax parent who knows?

You never grounded your kids? No, no, no, no. I bark. But I tend, I never hold a grudge. Like a lot of these officials in the NBA, you feel like they hold a grudge. Ref show. Like, I'm not into that at all you want. Only, don't bump me.

Don't get physical. I mean, if you bump me as a coach, I'll tee you right up. But I'd let a lot go. You could bark to me. Luca barks every time up the floor. Nobody complains like Luca. Yeah. I'm okay with it.

Jay Mack with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The herd line news. Well, what is the precedent for throwing stuff? Like, if I took my headband off and threw it, is that a T? I think it's pretty easy. Don't throw stuff.

Like, if you take off your helmet in the NFL, remember the guy in the end zone? Well, that's a weapon. Well, you're not throwing it. Just taking that helmet off is a penalty. Piazza, Clemens, bats. I'm talking a mouthpiece. We're talking practice here. A mouthpiece or a headband.

I guess it is a T. I don't know. It is, right? I don't know. A couple of rough shows over here. A couple of guys that want attention. Zebras. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific.

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fun down there in Florida but now he wants another ring there you go. All right. Brady hunch. Yes, I like it. Are the bucks a good fit for Tom Brady next? They actually are. Do you know their offensive line allowed the fewest sacks in the NFL?

He gets a new coordinator. He'll handpick him. They have no established quarterback under contract, so they want him. I think that's why they got rid of coaches quickly right after the season to send a message to Tom. So I think that's a fit. Coming back. Okay. Are the Saints a good fit for Tom Brady next season?

No. Defensive coach, least amount of cap space in the league. So Tom's at the point where he's going to come in and go, I need this, this, this. Remember the B? He said, I want Gronk. I want A.B. I want Lenny Fernette. I want a right tackle. They got no cap space. And Dennis Allen has now had two opportunities as a head coach. and it's been a disaster with both. That's fair. All right. How about the Raiders?

Josh McDaniels, good fit for Brady next season. I don't think it is. Josh Jacobs is a free agent. What if they don't bring him back? Because if you got to pay Brady, the other thing, the offensive lines, okay, good at left tackle, but needs a little help. Darren Waller's going to be there,

but he had injuries last year, and you have to win every game by a shootout in a division with Herbert and Mahalms. because the defense is bad. I mean, they had huge double-digit leads all year and couldn't sustain them. It's on the coach, though, buddy. Are the Titans a good fit for Tom Brady? This is one I don't think it's a fit.

O-line struggling, not a lot of cap space. Remember, they would eat. I think it's about 14 million of dead cap money for Tannahill if they moved off him. Tannahill gives them more athletic ability, and they don't have any weapons. I mean, Derek Henry, doesn't Derek Henry feel a little bit? like a pitcher that's pitched a lot of innings. Like at some point, he's going to run up against it. And they only have one receiver, and he's a kid.

To me, I don't think it works. Here we go. Miami Dolphins, good fit for Brady next season. I think it's a great fit. First of all, he's got speed receivers. Jaylon Waddle and Tyreek Hill. Get it to them, bubble screen it. Offensive line, bad, though.

Left tackle's good, rest of it a little regrettable. But what I do like is he's got a lot of guys that are good after the catch. So Tom didn't have to sit in that pocket forever. They are going to address the O line. What they have to address in the draft is the O line. But it's a lot of, and they had some O line injury. So it's not as bad as it looked this year. But they've got guys that are good after the catch.

That fits. And also it runs the San Francisco offense. So as we've often said with Kyle Shanahan. of Mike McDaniel. It's quarterback friendly, not quarterback-centric. How about the Jets? Are they a good fit for Brady next season after adding Nathaniel Hackett the Wizard? Offensive genius to the staff. I'm not handing my career to a young roster, a zany owner, and a coach that has to win this year. It just feels like it's just not, they don't have any momentum. I think Tom wants to join something, either with a lot of talent

or a lot of momentum. Well, wait, they have momentum, but it's just a bad fit. score a touchdown in their last six starts. That's momentum. Like four different starting quarterback. They have no offensive momentum. No offensive identity. But Breeze Hall's coming back, so there's that. How about the 49ers?

Did Tom go back to the Bay Area where he's from? It's kind of, kind of not. Let me ask you, as long as Brock Purdy's not awful, if they lost 24, 23, why would you want to pay your quarterback? You don't have to. Even if he loses. I mean, again, if it's like Brock Purdy loses, I mean, if they get beat 38 to 7 and Purdy's completely over his skis, then you have it a discussion. Well, rookie quarterbacks in conference championship games.

Oh and four straight up. That's why I like Philadelphia. I can't believe you're holding on to San Francisco. You're really in them. Well, we'll see what happens tomorrow. Finally. Oh, I like this. The Brady hunch.

Should Tom Brady retire instead of playing next season? Just not in that shirt. Yes. Yeah, I mean, it's 46. What is that, a pineapple on his shirt? I might have that. What do you got against? Well, you're a former sports writer.

That's how sports riders. Oh, that's a sick bird. If you literally go to, if you go on vacation and see somebody in a pineapple shirt, it's a former sports rider. Stop. I mean, maybe that was too large of a pineapple.

I have a shirt with small pineapples that are cool. Ladies like it, man. It's a money shirt. We're married, so that's kind of irrelevant. I know. Well, that's a fair point.

It's kind of useless. It's kind of useless to look good. You might as well mail it in. I eat pasta. Yeah, you stop working out. right you don't work out ever who cares no i i but i went i did pasta last night and had no no guilt pasta boles of it right to bed why would you ever have guilt for eating pasta well i mean you know

like i said before she's trapped anne's trapped she got me now i'm not going anywhere uh so what's the point of working out is she coming to the super bowl or no and she doesn't no interest neither is my wife so uh we can go out and party be living it up okay well we got got the party wed i'm gonna bring the pineapple shirt okay all right thank you Thanks. Really appreciate that. Okay, good power hour today. Greg Cocell, I thought he was excellent today. Greg Cocell breaks down the Eagles Niners.

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