The Herd with Colin Cowherd - THE HERD - Hour 3 - Top college basketball prospects, why Cooper Flagg is already elite, Jeff Goodman

Episode Date: February 25, 2026

Basketball insider Jeff Goodman joins the show to provide the latest on the mercurial star from Kansas, Darryn Peterson, who’s the projected number 1 draft pick but has only played in 17 of their 28 games this season. Goodman also explains why Cooper Flagg has clearly already shown he’s an elite NBA player in his rookie season with the Mavericks.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Radio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Well, there's a lot of reasons this has been a really good college basketball season. We've talked about this for the last three years. The NIL is taking about 15 good European players out of Europe from bringing him to our college game. And about 15 kids stay in college that would have gone to the NBA. So that would be like late to mid second round guys.

So you're getting kind of a fortified group. And I said it a couple years ago when Yukon won, I said, okay, that's like the best team since that back-to-back Billy Donovan title. Like you've got multiple four or five NBA guys. You have NBA length because I thought college basketball got real lean for about 15 years, 20 years. But the NIL, I'm not saying it saved college basketball, but it has fortified it. This year you've got three minimum elite players. You've got some unbelievable teams. And the teams with money, the schools with money at the top, Illinois and Duke and Michigan,

they are really, really good teams. And a guy, Jeff Goodman's now joining us, insider for the stadium, co-founder of Field of 68 college basketball network. You've been following a story for months that guys like me got into about two weeks ago. And that's the Darren Peterson story. So I was told, I was told by Doug Gottlieb, go watch this kid at Kansas right before the season. And I did. And I'm like, my God was it, Kobe. I mean, you could watch him three possessions, Jeff.

And you're like, oh, that's what Kobe looked like at 1819. But the injuries and the cramps and not playing and ISO act, he admits he's a loner. What is going on? Is this, I mean, you tell me, is it some injuries are real? Give me the skinny on this. So I wish I knew all of it, but I know a lot of it. And I've talked to former coaches, trainers, you name it, everybody, Bill Self plenty. You know, obviously this is a kid who two years ago, I said was the number one player in the country.

I remember seeing him down in Rock Hill, South Carolina. And at that point, it was all A.J. DeBanza. And walking away, I said, like, this kid is going to be better. You know, he's so talented, can do everything. And he's just dealt with a myriad of injuries. obviously you had the hammy earlier this year that kept him out and the cramps flew a couple weeks ago. So I understand everybody taking shots at him.

Here's what I'll say. If this kid was load managing, he would have shut it down six weeks ago. There's no reason he would have played. He was the clear number one pick. He wants to play. I think it's gone from physical, Colin, talking to people and kind of known the situation well enough.

I think it's gone from physical to now mental. as well. Whereas when this happens, he doesn't know how to work through it now. And you're seeing a player that looks, I was out there, I saw them play Iowa State about a week ago at Hilton Coliseum 10 days ago. And he didn't have that burst. Couldn't get by anybody. And one game he'll have it and another game he won't. Most days right now, he hasn't really shown that. Bill Self's moved them off the ball exclusively, sits him in a corner. and I think part of it is to protect the kid and make sure it gets through the game.

But, you know, to me, this is one that is really hard to figure out. I will say this. Everybody I've talked to, Colin, everybody. And every dealing I've had, I've interviewed him multiple times. Great kid, great work ethic, competitor. I think part of it, again, is mental.

I think part of it was the people around him, Colin. His father, you know, maybe some other people around him saying, you know what, the first sign of anything, you get the hell out of a game. Right. Yeah. By the way, it wouldn't be the first instance where it happened. So let's talk about the other kid at BYU.

And again, I've seen him play three or four times. Don't know if I always trust his shot, but athletically he's off the hook, AJ DeBonsa, BYU. And again, came in NIL. Everybody heard about him while he chose BYU. Again, jumps off the TV. And I've always, Jeff, given a kid a pass.

If like when people say, well, he's a good player, but he can't, he's not a consistent shooter. You can develop that. I mean, Ray Allen wasn't Ray Allen in college, right? Like, it happens. Could this kid go number one? What are restraints and liabilities? So he could. I still, I talked to two NBA gyms before the show today to make sure I had enough info here for you.

Both said they would take Darren Peterson still number one. They said there's still enough time left in the game here. You know, he's got a few more regular season games. he'll play a couple big 12 tournament games, probably a couple NCAA tournament games, and ultimately it's going to come down and number one, the physical, right? Obviously the doctors.

And then number two, the due diligence and the digging onto, you know, who's around them, what's got on here, right? Because we see it with Kauai, right? Like Kauai, when I watched him play and when he came into the league, an absolute killer. Like, as tough as it gets,

played every possession, You never would have predicted, not the injuries, because you could have said the injuries because of how hard he played, but that Uncle Dennis would make sure that Kauai wasn't going to play through all these injuries and load manage. So I think they're going to really dig into that. With A.J. DeBonsa, Brockton Masked kid, he's 6-8, 6-9, maybe 6-10, even. Super athletic, like you said, got some pole George in his game. The big thing, like you said, is the consistency with his shot. but man, he can go get one whenever he wants.

Yeah. I mean, he can absolutely just put the ball in his hands and he can get to the basket whenever he wants. And what has really impressed me, and again, seeing this kid since 15 years old back in a EU ball, his maturity. Even when things go bad, like he used to kind of chirp on the refs a little bit and, you know, lose his school.

He has been, I'll give him credit, like really, really poised, mature. Now, last night they got blitzed by UCF at home, probably the worst loss they've had all year. But this kid certainly, if Darren Peterson gives him any more of a reason for NBA guys, I think, yes, it could be AJ DeBanza. Okay, so Cameron Boozer's the third kind of lock at the top of the draft. I knew his dad, smart guy, worked hard, and you can tell from his sons, Cameron's one of those. you know, he plays at Duke, so you see him play on national TV. And my takeaway is resourceful, good feet, good hands, not wildly dynamic athletically, but I look at him and I think, that guy's going to walk into the league,

everybody in the league is going to want him on their team. He's just feet, hands, smart, works. What's his ceiling? What's his comp at the next level? So he's got the highest floor, lowest ceiling of those three. And maybe, honestly, he might have the lowest ceiling of, you know, include Caleb Wilson at North Carolina, Kingston, Fleming's point guard to Houston.

You know, I think he goes three or four. And I think maybe more likely he goes four at this point. Because, again, he's a guy that doesn't, you know, have great athleticism. But, man, it's kind of like his dad a little bit for a cop. Yeah. Like, doesn't blow anybody away. But, man. And this kid just wins, Colin.

Like, he never frigging loses. like it's crazy so like to me what he's done is really expand his game when i first saw him he shooting 12 maybe extend to 15 now he can make three it's like you said doesn't force anything just wins you know great teammate great character create kid great intangibles great everything but again what is the NBA draft on upside upside upside upside upside they look at this kid and they say he could be a great number two can he ever be a top 10 player in the NBA. A lot of NBA GMs have told me

they don't think that's the case where they think, you know, whether it's Peterson DeBonsa, Kingston Fleming's. I mean, this draft is so loaded. If you get the, that's why you're seeing everybody tank, right? Like, you can get the eighth pick and have a guy that

could be an NBA all-star down the road. The next two years, the NBA draft is not going to be good. So everybody's trying to trade into this draft. Okay, so I want to talk about Michigan. So 26 and 2, and again, it could be Illinois. I mean, we know Michigan's always had a rich history. But when you watch them play, they're so big.

It does remind me a little bit of that Yukon team. They're big, they're physical. You know, you're in the weeds on this. Was it NIL? Was it great recruiting? How did they get so good so fast? I mean, part of it is a combination. You've got to have money.

They have money. It's a great job with a great brand. man, Juan Howard ran it into the ground. You know, there's all these former, most of them. I won't say all, almost all of the former NBA guys doing college. They all pretty much stink, right? It's a different, it's a different deal. It just is.

Dusty May, remember, he's the guy who took FAU, terrible program at the time, all the way to the final four a couple years ago. Great hire at Michigan. He had other opportunities. He turned down Louisville at that time to go to Michigan because of the brand, because a great place to live for his family, whatnot. He's done an incredible job, and he's done it with bigs. I mean, last year they did it with two bigs.

You know, they have Vlad Golden. They brought in Danny Wolf, and it worked. And this year, he went with like two and a half bigs. You know, Adomara, 7-3, Merez Johnson, 610, athletic. Yaxel Landonberg, by the way, you got to get out of the Yaxel on your show at some point. One of the best stories in college basketball, played 11 high school games, had no motivation, no nothing, playing video games. Mom says to him, no, no, you're going to Yuma, Arizona,

and Arizona Western to play junior college ball. He balls. He's like, I don't want to go, I don't want to go. He ends up going. Great there. It goes to UAB. Two years at UAB. Now, turns down a year ago, could have been a late first round pick,

turns it down. Now, he's going to make $3 million this year at Michigan, so it's not like he's not getting anything here. But he could have been a first rounder making that money in the NBA. he told me a couple weeks ago, he said, I knew I wasn't ready to go to the NBA. And he's been awesome. Cooper flag, and I had you on last year.

I didn't know he had a left hand that was that good. I didn't know he had that floater. I knew he played defense. I remember saying, Jeff, I said, oh, he'll be better than Jason Tatum simply because he's more aggressive. He's just a very, and I think a lot in the NBA is, I always loved Andrew Wiggins,

and I talked about this the other day, but he just never, I always felt like he'd score 26. I couldn't remember any of them. Cooper flag, I remember, I remember all of them. Just, are you, when you talk to people, are they surprised how good Cooper flag is now at 19? Nobody is. Nobody is.

Myself, nobody is surprised about what this kid is doing because he's been doing at every level, every game, and he can do everything. He can do everything, Like, think about it. He's got a high IQ. He defends. We know he's going to become a better shooter.

He was last year at Duke than we thought. He can put it on the floor. It can make people better. He can do rebound. He wins, intangibles. Teammates love him. There is no hole in this kid's game. And wait till they surround him with actual players.

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Alabama's got the best crew of guards in the country. Remember the whole thing with Charles Betty Ocker earlier this year, you know, the injunction. He's with the team, not with the team. He's done at this point. But their guards are phenomenal. Now, they got a guard a little bit, and that's going to be a big part of it. But they got a kid with Barron Fowlin, great guard. Aiden Holloway can shoot it.

They just, I mean, they got everything you would possibly want on the perimeter. And last I checked, Colin, you know what wins in the NCAA tournament? Guards. Yeah. They got the ball in their hands. Jeff Goodman, Basketball Insider for Stadium at Goodman Hoops, says the Twitter account covered this stuff for over 20 years for multiple networks. Love it.

Going to be a great March. And Jeff, great seeing you. You too. You too, Colin. By the way, field is 60. Field of 68. No longer's stadium. Okay, co-founder of Field of 68. Yeah. We own it.

Yeah. All right. Where to go? Thanks, man. You bet. His daughter, he told me, also covers college basketball. How about that? Huffler. Yeah, it's, I got, I got J. Mack lives for college basketball. Jason over here loves college basketball. Yukon's lost two of its last four. four or five games, got off to a red-hot start.

Hurley is just interesting. I don't know what they're going to be, but they'll be interesting. J-Mac with the news. No, no, no, no, turn on the news. This is the Herdline News. From my love of college basketball to your love of the Chicago Bears and Caleb Williams, Colin. Let's go to Ben Johnson. Man, he rejuvenated Caleb just an unbelievable season last year and year two.

At the Combine this week, Johnson spoke highly of Caleb's growth, believes he's going to ascend quickly, and we're going to see significant growth this offseason. I don't know what that means, MVP, 5,000 yards, but it does look like all signs are pointing to DJ Moore will be playing elsewhere next year. That shouldn't be a huge surprise, given Roma Dunzee, and the other young receiver they have, whose name escapes me right now.

But they have a Luther Burton, thank you. And the tight ends are excellent. The running game is strong, Colin. this is a really good offense, even if they do lose DJ more. Yeah, I mean, they could really, I told you, I think they're in the Max Crosby sweepstakes.

I think they need an edge rusher. They probably have to fortify their linebacking crews not athletic enough for me, not deep enough or athletic enough. But I'll say it again, the Rams played a perfect game. No turnovers. I think one penalty.

And the Bears took him to overtime. This team is ready. I know it sounds crazy, but again, if they can get a more consistent pass rush and get more athletic in the kind of the back, especially at linebacker, I think they can beat anybody. I really do. Go ahead. Say it. They're going to the Super Bowl next year. Go ahead. They're going to compete for the Super Bowl next year. Didn't they do that this year? You need to level up, man. Come on. Now, this is, it's, I don't have to just throw out a big, massive click. They will, right now, when I screw around and do my standings, I have them in the NFC championship. Oh, my.

Who are they facing? I can't see. It's for them. Okay. Where are your Seahawks? Sam Darnold, missed the playoffs? No, they'll make the playoffs, but they'll, you know, you're not going to do back-to-backs. Doesn't happen.

You don't believe in the new O.C., huh? All right, we'll see what happens in Chicago. Let's move on to the Raiders. I'm kind of fascinated by the Vegas Raiders right now. They got the number one pick. Obviously, many needs, many, despite Brock Bowers and Gentie. It's interesting. GM John Spitech said a lot. There are no guarantees that they take Mendoza 1, Colin.

It's a fun topic. Here we go. We're going to build this team the right way, and this league is littered with examples of teams that went from a top five pick to the NFC championship, the Super Bowl. We've seen it the last couple years. I mean, the Patriots won four games last year, and they were in the big game the year before. The Redskins, the Redskins the commanders picked second. We're in the NFC championship game.

So we're going to build it the right way, and we'll see what. comes. Well, they've got 10 picks. They've got lots of money. I think they're going to retain Max Crosby because they have so many picks and can, you know, if they can hit on seven or eight of their picks. I

I mean, when's the last time you were really jazzed for a Raiders draft? I am fired up. I mean, I'm really fired up. So here's my thing. So, you know, the staff's like, well, what would it cost to trade up for Mendoza?

And we touched on this yesterday. What if there's an argument that trading up for a quarterback doesn't make sense? The Bryce Young thing backfired terribly. Remember, they traded up to grab Bryce Young. Their mistake was getting rid of DJ Moore, so he didn't have a number one receiver. So it's taken him these last couple years to rejuvenate their receiving core, which they did when they got T-Mack at Arizona, and he was a star as a... Are you with me that I wouldn't trade up for him?

Does that... He's not a generational guy, prospect at least, right? No, I mean, it's a very fair point, and it's a good debate, is that ideally you don't want to trade up for any player. But you know what? The Chiefs did for Mahomes and didn't the bills for Josh Allen. I think when it comes to left tackle and quarterback and maybe an elite edge rusher, they just, the planet doesn't make many great ones a year. and I'm going to move up. And I, and I, so it's like I would move up for a quarterback,

or if I thought like I had an elite 10-year starter left tackle, or, you know, Aidan Hutchison coming out of Michigan, you're like, yeah, I'm going to trade up for that. But I think to your point, there's been more teams that have done it and failed, but there's also some of the greatest quarterbacks ever people moved up for. So I think quarterback is, in fact, I've said this about Ty Simpson. I think he's like a 45th best player in the draft. Like when I look at the players and I do my little mocks and look at,

Ty Simpson is the second best quarterback, but he's not a first round guy. But if you're the Rams and have two firsts and what are you drafting? Like 13th and like 28th, I can reach 12 spots if I, because I have a second and a third and fourth. And I don't want him to play for two years because I have Stafford. So I think quarterback's the one position I would reach on if I really bull. believed it. So I'm looking into that Mahomes trade at 10. So they swap first round picks with the bills and then added a third and a first. That's not that much. It costs way more than that to go up to one. Like you said, the Bryce Young deal. So to go up to 10, it's not that much,

but I just, I love Mendoza. I would love it if the Raiders passed on him. What would you say the percentage is chance that they do not take Mendoza? Let me ask you. Let's just throw this out, Arizona. So you and I love their tight end. Like they're running back, I think they have good receiving talent, their O-Lines okay. And you're Michael Bidwell, and you're like, man, we got a stink at quarterback. We got the Kyler-Murie situation. How do you get out of a mess at quarterback? Go ask Denver.

You hit on a first-round quarterback. And suddenly, Bo Nix is free for five years, so nobody cares about the Russell Wilson cap hit. Okay. Okay, I'm Arizona at three, and I call the Raiders. And I'm like, all right, you only have to move down two. spots. We're going to change our franchise. We went from a guy that Tyler Murray, the fans didn't love, to the most humble, grateful, aw shucks kid. You're going to get Hoosier fans flying to Arizona on Sundays to watch. You'll sell season tickets from the Midwest. And I'm going to give up two

ones, a couple, too. It could literally change the Arizona Cardinals because they've had this like quarterback situation where he can't stay healthy, is he committed, the owner doesn't like him, the fans don't love him, and you could literally go to T-bow with talent, like this unbelievably likable kid that played in the Midwest and the Big Ten. I can see Arizona going on, we'll give up three first-round picks. That's a lot. What if, what if, just spitballing here.

So the Arizona lost like, I think, seven games by 15 or more last year. It's some ridiculous number. They got a lot of needs. I don't want to give up that many picks. What if I said, we'll give you Marvin Harrison Jr. We've seen it. We like him. And two number ones.

So swapping ones, right? Three and one. So the Raiders get a number one receiver. And another one. And they're at the number three pick. Okay. So that's three ones. And if I was the Raiders, I trade down again and again.

And at about nine, ten, or eleven, I take Ty Simpson. And I sit him behind Brissette for a year. I mean, I get, I wouldn't do it, but if you're Arizona in your franchise right now, outside of the Jets, it may be the biggest mess. Look at your division. Well, the Browns still exists. I got to go up against Seattle, San Francisco, and the Rams. I don't have a quarterback. What if you, yeah, no, it's a fun topic.

We'll wrap up. We'll come back to that because the Ty Simpson stuff is crazy. We'll come back to that. Let's go to Buffalo Bills to wrap it up. This Keon Coleman mess in the offseason, you got the owner taking shots at the kid. just awful. 33rd pick in the 2024 draft, but GM Brandon Bean talking at the combine

says Keon Coleman will have every chance to rewrite his narrative. That is kind of the challenge to Keon. Can you go back and do what you did all off-season and your training camp? And, you know, if you remember, you had a great game, game one against Baltimore. Don't let some of the maturity issues off the field

affect the product on the field. If he does that, he'll have every chance. I know we've got some new coaches, and they're excited to meet him and get to work with him. Yeah, I mean, I didn't like the owner hammering the kid like that. No, that was press. So if I'm the GM, and I know people are afraid to go at management, well, why wouldn't the GM say, listen, my owner put me in a bad spot? I like Keon. He struggled with tardiness.

Just be honest. Don't give me this smokescreen BS. Hey, he can rewrite his narrative. Just be real. Be authentic. We like the kid. We drafted him. Bill, if Brandon Bean gets crushed, but if this kid could play, they have a number one receiver,

a top slot guy, a star back, a great left tackle, and a star quarterback, and you'd be fine. Two tight ends, too. Yeah, I mean, oh yeah, excellent tight ends. So Brandon Bean sometimes can be thin-skinned. They don't have pro bowlers on defense, but yet if you're going to make a mistake in this league, I'd rather have my talent on the offensive side. So this kid really is important because, and again, receivers tend to, whatever it is in the personality, the DNA of wide receivers, you get a lot of this. They're just not quite mature enough when they come into the league.

If this kid hits, then you start looking at the bills differently. You're like, tight ends, running back, left tackle, quarterback, perimeter receiver, you know, boundary guy, slot guy. Okay, then, so I mean, I think you can say what you want about Joe Brady. but Brady apparently is a huge fan of the kid and pounded the table for him. If this kid works out, that's going to be a lot of heat off the gym. Because as much as we banged on him, actually their offensive personnel is pretty damn good. It's better than the Chiefs. Well, listen, even if Coleman hits, I don't know that he's a one.

What if the Niners call the Buffalo Bills? Hey, man, we got Brandon Ayuk rotting on our bench. We'll give him to you for a DoorDash gift card and a Blockbuster membership. Can we interest you in that? No, I'm not, I'm staying away from Brandon Ayyuk for a million reasons. I'm trying to help Niners. Lynch, you know, go on. I'm trying to help you out, buddy. J-Mack with the news.

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We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't. invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts. We're starting a trend. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys?

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Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHart. heart women's sports. So I like people willing to pivot. I think you know that the combine has changed over the years because the Rams were the first to say timeout. When we go to this combine and everybody's all coached up with these interviews, you can really get, you can really get fooled. A guys can cut off time on their 40-yard dashes, add a bench. press reps because all they do is train for the combine. They're not playing any more games. They're training for the combine.

And years ago, Johnny Mansell went to the combine, apparently aced the interviews. Yeah, he's got a lot of BS. He's a good talker. He's a confident kid. And Johnny Manzell's out there telling you, man, let's crush this world together. And Johnny Manzell goes to Cleveland and didn't really like watching film. So teams like the Rams were like, yeah, we're going to go off. game tape. We'll watch senior bulls. We can do our own interviews. We're not going to go to this

hyper, super-coached up event. And Albert Breyer at the Combine for the 18th straight year talked about how the Rams have changed some things. The Rams impact was like they felt like sometimes these 15-minute interviews can be deceiving and can change their view of a player in an undue way, because that player has been trained to interview and to knock the 15-minute interview out of the park. And so why are you throwing seven or eight months of research out the window? I do think like markets are set here, right? Trade markets are set. The financial market for free agency is set.

A lot of agents and teams are going to leave here knowing, you know, what a guy like Kenneth Walker might make on the free agent markets. Yeah, so I think it's just smart. I'm so fired up for the draft. You know what I'm going to do? J. Mack, you and I maybe should do this. I do it with clat, like the day before the draft, is just do our own mock draft. We should do that.

I'm down. And then tomorrow, I was going to do it today, but we have some new technology, futuristic technology. We're going to debut. We were going to do it today. Little bug in the system. We'll do it tomorrow. And I'm dead serious on the Arizona Cardinals. It's not that they don't have the star quarter.

It's that they have an expensive guy who's never healthy, is a little bit moody, and isn't great for the brand. What would solve that? Fernando Mendoza. A Midwest, I mean, he's from Miami, but grateful, humble, the opposite of Kyler. He's big and not athletic, super, super verbal, grateful. He's like the opposite of Kyler Murray to the owner, and you'd have this Midwest Hoosiers following. I guarantee you they'd be people from the big 10 would come pouring in. I could see Arizona going, okay, we'll give you a star receiver, two number one picks,

and a couple of threes, and... What? Oh, come on. That's too much. Let me ask you, hold on. If the Raiders say no, we're not, we need Mendoza, what's plan B for the Cardinals? Do you like Malik Willis with a LaFloor brother? I don't like having to pay Malik Willis $35 million.

Oh, who said $35? By the way, that 35 numbers nonsense, that reporters are floating? It's coming from Willis's agent. You can't throw 35 passes in a season, complete 30, and get 35 million. That's not going to happen. There's no way. You ever heard of the word desperation? You want to, okay, let's make a friendly wager on that.

You owe me like seven steak dinners anyway. I'll bet two of them that he does not get 31 million a year. I think it'll be 30 at the height. Okay, so I say it's 30 or above. You say it's 29 or below. I mean, 30 is the number I like, but fine. You're the big guy. Fine. I'll take under 29 or below. I have never. I'll just say this to you, GM's Malik Willis Pro Bowl.

Get used to saying that. Come on. So I look, I mean, Colin, the sample size on Willis is tiny. It's not like Baker Mayfield. It's not like Sam Darnold. This is a bigger rehab project than we think. If somebody pays him like $35 million, that's their funeral. Like, good luck. And by the way, the numbers are starting to show Miami. would have to move like heaven and earth just to get him. They have no money. They're capped out.

They have to dump all these players. I think Arizona needs to make a call on the number one pick. I really do. I don't know. I think they just wait a year and go for Archmanning. Punt a year. I know that sounds goofy and nobody wants to do that. You're not winning in that division.

Colin, come on. All right. Tank, baby. Revolutionary. New tool to be used on this show, among other places. Hey guys, it's us The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe.

I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts.

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Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and Friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, S&L's Mikey Day and head writer, Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter.

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