The Herd with Colin Cowherd - The Herd - Hour 3 - Update on Mahomes

Episode Date: January 25, 2023

Comparing Joe Burrow and Patrick Mahomes Update on the health of Mahomes   Guest: Mitchell SchwartzSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information....

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Starting point is 00:01:38 Be sure to catch us live every weekday from 12 to 3 Eastern, 9 to noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and FS1. Find your local station for the Hurt at Fox Sports Radio.com or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Herd. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Okay, so we have video of Patrick Mahomes walking off the podium today in Kansas City. Is he limping? So for our radio audience, he is not limping. There is no boot. He looks like you and I walking off a podium.
Starting point is 00:02:15 Patrick Mahomes, it's crazy. I thought he was going to have. They told me we had the video and I thought, oh, I want to see him limping. He's not limping at all. He just walks off. What do you make of it? Let me ask you, though. I don't want to get to Zuprooter here.
Starting point is 00:02:28 Most people walk with their right foot forward. He takes a left step down first. If you look, it looked like it was, it was scripted. Watch it again. Can we show it one more time? His left foot walks in front. No, nobody does that, right? You walk with your right foot forward.
Starting point is 00:02:43 Watch this right here. Left down first. Anything? Nothing? Nothing? I give you credit for noticing it. I would have never thought about that. It looked like as he looks down at the step.
Starting point is 00:02:53 That's where he's putting his weight. on his left foot as opposed to the right foot. That's a pretty good call by you. It's minuscule. Are there people in your ears saying McIntyre's crazy, make fun of them? They've been saying that since you showed up. That's something. Mitchell Schwartz is sitting there listening to us with his cow degree thinking we're a couple of blubbering morons here.
Starting point is 00:03:15 I will say, have you ever had a high ankle sprain, Mitchell? Oh yeah, I've had my fair share. They're the worst. I've heard they're terrible. I never have. can you be better a week later? You can be. I mean, I saw that footage along with you.
Starting point is 00:03:30 He looks like he's moving well. I would say he didn't break stride. I think's the biggest thing. You know, he took that first step with the left going down. But the last step, all the way it's on the right, he looks pretty good. I'd imagine he's maybe doing that for a purpose to try to show people that he is feeling pretty good. Okay. Pretty good news.
Starting point is 00:03:46 Now, Mitchell, you've been in these big games with Kansas City, Andy Reed and Mahomes. Is practice different? Andy loves these big moments to show off a little bit. He'll bring out one of his plays. Is practice different for these games? No, it's pretty much the same. I mean, the schedule stays the same. The work is the same, kind of the way you go about the week,
Starting point is 00:04:10 the way you install. All of that tends to be the same. It's just a bit of a heightened energy because you know, if you lose, this is the end of it, and especially this particular game, we're able to get to the Super Bowl if you win and then going up against what's now a new rival. But you try to keep, you know, as much as you can the same, you try to eliminate the exterior distractions.
Starting point is 00:04:29 I think that's one of the biggest things that coach is big on is, you know, eliminate those distractions just when you're in the building, really focus in. In terms of Andy in Mahomes, this is still very much a honeymoon period. When they had to let Tyreek Hill go and the corner award, that is the reality of paying your quarterback a lot. Are you surprised at all how it's been so seamless with, I mean, they rebuilt a defense in a year, an O-line in a year, and a receiving corn a year. Having had multiple coaches, how does Andy, that's usually situationally, Mitchell, it's hard. It's a different, guys are coming from all over the league. Are you surprised that the offense remained best in the league, despite over the last two years between O-line and receiver, there's like nine new starters? Yeah, it's pretty crazy.
Starting point is 00:05:22 And the thing I expected was maybe this isn't the best offense in the NFL this year. Maybe it's the third best, a fourth best, a fifth best. But because you're able to draft two guys in the first round on defense, because you're able to keep bolstering that side of the ball, you know, maybe the defense gets into the top 15, the top 10. You become a bit more balanced of a team. Well, you know, that hasn't necessarily been the case. It's been the offense, the number one offense in basically any category you can look at,
Starting point is 00:05:46 both, you know, traditional statistics and advanced metrics. and the defense has progressed well in the second half of the season. But it is, it's kind of crazy that they're able to be this good and losing the guys that you mentioned, being able to rebuild, you know, a receiver group on the fly. Last year, being able to rebuild an offensive line group on the fly, that's not the way it's supposed to go and you're not supposed to go 14 and 3 and get the one seat. So testament to coach, testament to Pat and also to Travis as well, because I think we're realizing, you know, he's such an integral part of what the offense does. Burrow 3-0 against Mahomes. What is the matchup? For the record, I believe Kansas City has led big in two of those games.
Starting point is 00:06:24 So it's not like, but there is something about Cincinnati that Buffalo maybe doesn't have. Your takeaway on what's the little secret sauce for Cincinnati or the matchup that works here? It seems like defensively they're able to do something to frustrate the Chief's offense. And last year was probably the Chiefs quote unquote down year, which is kind of crazy to think about. And we saw for about a four to five week stretch The teams were frustrating the Chiefs' offense And there would be these weird games Where the offense couldn't get out of a rut
Starting point is 00:06:56 They couldn't continue possessions They were punting a little bit more than normal And it seems like Cincinnati's really honed in on Whatever that magic formula is to frustrate the Chief's offense You know, they can only rush three And they have eight guys in coverage And no one's open And they're able to get home with protection
Starting point is 00:07:11 When they are blitzing, they're effective They're getting free runners And they're forcing Pat to get rid of it And so there's this kind of frustrating bit of football that the Bengals' defense seems to have over the Chiefs' offense. And as you said, you know, the Chiefs have been up early in a lot of these games. It's just the frustration starts to mount on the third and fourth quarter. Obviously, we know Burroughs is a cool customer, and he just keeps marching down the field and he keeps scoring points. And they've come out on top in the first three matchups.
Starting point is 00:07:39 Mitchell, you were in the middle of this as the league became much more of an offensive league. We had Kyle Van Noy on yesterday saying, you know, when you go up at his first year in the league and now, you just, everybody's willing to go over the middle. Tight ends, receivers. I can remember when I was younger, there was a term called alligator arms that receivers did not want to go over the middle. And if you had a Michael Irvin, it was so rare to have a guy that was willing to get his head knocked off, right? Now everybody goes over there. You can't hit anybody. And you've been in the middle of this pivot.
Starting point is 00:08:09 So seven of the last eight coaches were offensive coaches. Sean McDermott was the last one, and they had no offensive game plan. They looked, Zach Taylor took them to the woodshed. It was really no identity, no game plan, deep balls up the sideline in a snowstorm. Basketball, I've always feel like you've got to be a little patient with coaches because you can't fix a team in a draft because you're drafting kids. They're 18, 19. In the NFL, I get you. You're 23.
Starting point is 00:08:38 You're ready to start. You're a man. I can go find five start. good starters in an NFL draft. You can't do that in an NBA draft. So I tend to be in basketball, just let the Celtic thing, the Milwaukee Buck thing.
Starting point is 00:08:52 Just be patient. But the NFL is different. When you look at the Cowboys, a Mike McCarthy, when you look at the bill, Sean McDermott, when you have these penalties, we talked about it yesterday. Do we sound crazy saying
Starting point is 00:09:08 Sean McDermott felt like he doesn't, he just doesn't quite get where the league's gone. Does that sound crazy for somebody that spent a decade in the league? I think at first glance, it does sound crazy because you're like, wow, the bills have been one of the best teams over the last few years. You know, again, you look at some of the data and they've been the best team this year when you combine all three phases. But if you're a Bill's fan and you're thinking about it, you know, conceptually the way you are,
Starting point is 00:09:37 would you rather have Brian Daible as the head coach knowing what Daible was able to do in New York, knowing that he was the one to unlock Josh Allen. He was the one apparently to keep him on track to get him to not make all these crazy plays and not force the ball too much. Would you rather have that guy as the head coach? Because as we've seen with this league, you know,
Starting point is 00:09:54 you started to have the Shanahan McVeigh, and then all of a sudden, hey, we've got to get the next hot young offensive coordinator. Well, the reason is offense, like you said, is what football is about. And so if you've got that brilliant mind as the head coach, he never leaves. The offense is always at their peak potential.
Starting point is 00:10:09 And it just, we're finding it really difficult to be successful as a head coach without that. The Andy Reed is fascinating to me. I think if you could pick a Super Bowl, it would be Andy Reed against Philadelphia, his old team. How long did it take you, as a pretty heady guy from Cal, how long did it take you in the Andy Reed you get there that you knew he was unique offensively?
Starting point is 00:10:38 Was it a meeting? Was it a practice? was it repetition. What was the first thing, Mitchell, that jumped out and you thought, man, this guy is operating at a different level? It was pretty early because the first thing that stuck out to me is as a head coach, you know, he wasn't having 10, 15, 20 minute team meetings every single day. You had the team meeting when you showed up in April and it was like,
Starting point is 00:11:04 hey, guys, this is the schedule, this is how it's going to be laid out. We expect you to work hard. These are the goals for the year. And then that was the last time you saw him in a team meeting. format until the next phase of the off season. And where I came from in Cleveland, we pretty much had a new head coach every year. I had three and four years. And so those guys are trying to meet a bunch.
Starting point is 00:11:22 They're trying to instill their culture. They're trying to talk about, you know, reliability and consistency. But coach has that already instilled, whether it's, you know, from the first few years when I wasn't there or just the way he operates. Like, he tells you, these are the goals. Let's go do it. And then offensively, you get to see that really quickly once you get into the install. The level of detail, you know, the screen game in particular,
Starting point is 00:11:42 out to me because that's an area that as an offense alignment, we get to see him install. And you've got different landmarks. You've got different, you know, specificities for the running back, how to, like, exactly place the ball to him to get him up the field at the right angle. There's so much precise detail. And as a guy who didn't know much about, you know, coach's playbook specifically, all I knew was, you know, Andy Reid, Philadelphia, screen game, passing offense. Like, the first time he installed a screen, I was like, all right, I get it.
Starting point is 00:12:08 Like, I understand why this works. It's because he's so detailed. Yeah. Finally, Aaron Rogers, many are suggesting if he doesn't retire this year, it's close. Brady may retire. So for you or an offensive lineman, it tends to be you had a back injury. It's a physical thing. It's not for quarterbacks usually.
Starting point is 00:12:29 But be that as it may, injury or not for you, I always feel like when a player starts talking about retirement, they're probably close. Even before your injury, you know the interior of that. O line or the O line period, it beats up your hands. It beats up your shoulders. Was there, what was the determining factor if you obviously had an injury? But had you thought about it in your head like, okay, this is 10 years getting beat up. Take me to being an older player. You've had a couple injuries. Aaron's had a couple collarbone, I think breaks or surgeries. Take me to what they're thinking, in your opinion. Yeah, I think everybody does think about what the end looks like and how much you're you're willing to endure. And to your point, once you start
Starting point is 00:13:18 getting serious along, am I willing to walk away? Is it ready? You know, what's so difficult is doing what you need to do in the off season. You know, once you get into the season, even if you don't love the offense lineman in particular, if you don't love training camp and you don't love, you know, the practice schedule of a normal season, you can still get through it. But it's in March, it's in April when you're like, oh, man, I got to go work out today. You know, there's no one around you. There's no friends to go work out with. Are you still willing to put in that kind of commitment. And so I do think most guys, you know, as they reach the end of their career, whether it's, you know, seven years, whether it's 12 years, whether it's 20, you start to think about
Starting point is 00:13:52 the risk reward, have I made enough money, do I have the accolades I want? You know, for me, we had won the Super Bowl and that was one of the lifelong dreams and something that I didn't think was necessarily achievable. And so you think, all right, you know, I've had a pretty good career. I've now won the Super Bowl. I've got these accolades. Like, would I be okay walking away, or is there still something I want to chase? you said, you know, the injury made it pretty easy for me. You know, if I didn't have that, I don't know how much longer I would have kept playing. But I feel like I walked away very fulfilled because I did have all those things.
Starting point is 00:14:23 I did have the Super Bowl. I played on awesome teams. I made a lot of good friends. I made a good amount of money. And so I kind of hit all those checklist things that I didn't feel like I had more to give. I didn't, you know, get screwed over by the coach who didn't play me. I, you know, had a pretty awesome career of starting every game. So there wasn't any one area where I was like, I need to hang around for this specifically.
Starting point is 00:14:42 Yeah. By the way, you made four Pro Bowls. Aaron's got Pro Bowls, MVP's. He's got a ring. He's rich. I mean, it's, I think it's hard to walk away from the money. But to your point, he has checked a lot of boxes, and he obviously has a much broader life beyond football. We know that based on the things he tells us. Mitchell Schwartz, say hi to your brother. It's great seeing you get. By the way, move your head and show everybody that picture behind you. That bit, look at it. There's Mitchell. You don't get many of those. Oh, yeah, look at that. The red jersey. Nice and slimming. Yeah. That's right. Mitchell, good to seeing you again. Thanks for having me. You bet. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the IHard Radio app. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's
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Starting point is 00:18:10 So Colin, I thought we'd wing it on the news this half hour. Wing it? Yeah, we were a little backed up with the Mitchell Schwartz stuff. So should we just start talking about the Lakers? I don't know, should we? Yeah, why not? A disappointing performance last night from LeBron and company. I mean, LeBron was spectacular.
Starting point is 00:18:24 But now all the chatter with the Lakers has turned to, hey, what do we do trade-wise? Should Russell Westbrook be moved? Someone floated a potential. This is just potential. Zach Levine coming out from the Bulls to the Lakers. Now, he's a better shooter than Westbrook. Oh, he's great. But the Bulls are failing.
Starting point is 00:18:43 Now, you'd give up Westbrook and the two future first. Okay, so can I say this on Zach Levine? He's from Ballard, Washington. So I saw some high school stuff because it was interesting that he was such a great player out of high school. So he's vertical, he's spectacular. He's a better shooter. Here's my thing, though. Is he a winning player?
Starting point is 00:19:03 That's always been my knocking. He is the classic, great. You know, we talk about the. this in football. Like some quarterbacks, they're great in highlights. The footworks bad, the mechanics aren't good. I always think he's talented. I never feel like he's a winning
Starting point is 00:19:19 player. Well, he was on the Olympic team last time, and he was part of a winning team. He had to, like, dial in and he couldn't shoot 25 times a game. He likes to shoot. I am a huge, I have a massive crush on his game, because he makes it look effortless. The guy's walking on air, ridiculous dunks. Oh, he's super
Starting point is 00:19:35 vertical. 7-8-3s a game. Now the question is, do the Bulls want to give up on Zach this early, you know, listen, they're not a playoff team right now, and they're going to have a massive luxury tax bill, DeMarre Rosen, you know, it's just not working out there. But if you're the Lakers, you've got to do something to upgrade this roster. We saw Westbrook. He couldn't finish at the rim last night. No, listen. Robert Covington blocking a shot, Kauai Leonard, like... Well, and also, it's come... One of the reasons Westbrook is more dynamic in the regular season than the playoffs, because the playoffs become more about half-court basketball. Everybody cingesges up their
Starting point is 00:20:06 defense. Westbrook is a poor half-court player. Extremely. Doesn't set screens. No, he won't defend. You can pick on them defensively, can't hit shots, won't set screens. Now, full court in his prime athletically, you got about 16 points a night on just beating people down the floor. But so for me with Restbrook is what the Lakers need is because there, I do think they could be trouble in the playoffs if AD is healthy and LeBron. Big time. AD expected to maybe return tonight against the Spurs. But my takeaway is Westbrook in the playoffs, as the sport becomes more
Starting point is 00:20:43 half-court-centric, Westbrook becomes a liability. He's not always a liability in the regular season. Playoff basketball, you pick on Westbrook. Yeah. He's a poor defender, can't shoot, won't screen. So to me, if you look at this roster now with a kid from the Wizards, LeBron, A.D. Addition by subtraction. I think I'd move Westbrook and give the picks up. Because I do think they could be a matchup problem. Yeah. I mean, there's a lot of Denver's, Pelicans.
Starting point is 00:21:16 Think about this. If you have a series where LeBron and AD are healthy, which is a big ask, on the court, what team has two players better than them? Well, Yolkich and Murray are pretty good, aren't they? I mean, it's Steph. Okay. Yolkich and Murray are very good. I'll give you that.
Starting point is 00:21:32 Steph and Wiggins. We saw Draymond Green shut down Yokic. in the playoff series last year for the Warriors? I think the point being, if you're talking about the move, because this is probably, AD gets hurt a lot and LeBron's old. If you do think this team is capable,
Starting point is 00:21:51 and I do if they're healthy of winning a playoff series, potentially in a matchup, Westbrook really becomes an addition by subtraction. He is not, he is no longer, he is now a huge liability in half-court basketball. They'll attack him. They'll be like, send him over for the screen. When you're going to play a team six or seven games, you figure out very quick.
Starting point is 00:22:10 Like I always say about Brooklyn, Kyrie Irving's now is such a liability. When you play Brooklyn in the playoffs, you're going after Kyrie Irving, and you're putting Ben Simmons at the line. Those guys, they fly into town for a game, they can harm you. If I get to play seven games against Brooklyn, they got holes. I can attack over and over. All right. Next up, the NFL has announced the three finalists for this year's coach of the
Starting point is 00:22:36 year award. Colin, we kind of spart about this earlier. Kyle Shanahan, Brian Daibol, and Doug Peterson have filled out the list. I think it's a three finalists. No Andy Reid, no Nick Siriani. Day Bowl's a slam dunk. He got it in his division and won nine games. Daniel Jones and the weakest playoff roster. He took a rebate, a roster that has really one great unit, defensive line, and Daniel Jones of the playoffs and won a game. They were bad. Jags obviously were the worst team in the league last year. Giants are bad. Jags spent $250 or $300 million on free agents.
Starting point is 00:23:13 Trevor Lawrence. They got some players. Jags got some dudes. Giants have Sequin Barclay. And that's about... Dexter Lawrence. They got two dudes. KT.
Starting point is 00:23:24 Thibito, we like him. He's a rookie. So you would go dayball, huh? I think slam duck. I mean, Shannahan did get a third string quarterback. A rookie last pick in the draft to the NFL to the NFL. NFC championship game. It is arguably the best roster in a decade in the league. But quarterback's more important than any other position. Brock Purdy. At any rate, Fox bet,
Starting point is 00:23:47 as Shanahan the slight favorite at plus 100, Daibble right behind him at plus 110. Also, oh, our staff notes, Dan Campbell snubbed for what he did with Detroit. Now, I know he didn't make the playoffs. They were 8 and 9. How many games Brian Daibble win? Brian Daibble won a playoff game with Daniel Jones. Nick Siriani, number one seed? Again, stack roster and Jalen Hurst.
Starting point is 00:24:11 Jalen Hurts, something for an MVP. Stack. I thought I'd have told you before the year. Hey, Daniel Jones not only gets to the playoffs, wins a playoff game. Let's just bet $100. In one second, you'd make that bad.
Starting point is 00:24:25 I thought we talked Giants and we liked them in August. No, no, no. You liked them. I had them fourth. You talked me into third. Right. And I did. That's where they finished.
Starting point is 00:24:34 No, thanks to you, I got that division right. Yes, yes. All right. Final story, Justin Fields took a big jump in his development that season. You did? Really blossomed in the run games, 700 plus yards from last season on the ground, breaking Lamar Jackson's single season record. Bear Center Lucas Patrick has praised Fields for his night and day improvement. Here's what he had to say. I really think it was the confidence in him knowing when certain plays are coming. As a player, you know, this plays being called, this is my time to make the play, and he stepped up in those moments. We saw the explosive plays he made during the latter half of the season and the things he was able to do, both throwing and running the ball. It was excellent.
Starting point is 00:25:13 Not really. No, he's a super athlete, but they lost 10 games in a row. And he's not, nobody questions his size, athleticism, power arm, but you got to complete 63% of your throws. Which on the spot. Bears have the number one pick. Are you keeping fields or what are we doing? I think they have so many needs. My theory on the draft has always been the same.
Starting point is 00:25:37 You always trade down in the first round unless there's a Trevor Lawrence and Andrew Luck, and there's very few of those. I don't think anybody's trading up for Bryce Young. That would be my guess. It's early in the process. So on your mock draft, who's the first? You have the bears. What do they take? I'm going Will Anderson.
Starting point is 00:25:53 Okay, that makes sense. Edge rusher for Alabama? Who's your second pick? Texans? I go CJ Stroud. I like some. Stroud, a lot more than, I know people like, maybe it's recency bias.
Starting point is 00:26:07 Well, that was Herbert. When he ran in the Rose Bowl, you're like, oh. But you were the one, I remember you had put out a tweet during that Rose Bowl and all these people jumped down in your throat, come on, Herbert, he can't, that offense is junk. But again, the offenses they run in college are nothing like
Starting point is 00:26:23 the pros. Well, and also in college, a coach will limit the exposure of getting hit to his quarterback because they don't have a capable backup. So against Georgia, Ohio, State said, kid, run. Last game potentially is a college player. C.J. Stroud did a Herbert. It's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. That's C.J. Stroud?
Starting point is 00:26:41 He's capable of that? So I'm with you. I would take C.J. Stroud over Bryce Young. And I think Bryce Young is more ready year one to play. But I think C.J. Stroud sighs and the game. Yeah, what do you make of this narrative? Ohio State quarterback's always stink in the pros.
Starting point is 00:26:57 There's nothing there, right? There's multiple. Ohio State used to be linebacker, it now is the best receivers in the country. The world's changed. Ohio State. Look at their receivers over the last. Alave.
Starting point is 00:27:12 Garrett Wilson. Harrison. Marvin Harrison coming out. So, no, I mean, Ohio State's whole program now is offense. Their big issue is they can't stop people. They couldn't stop Michigan. They couldn't. Ohio State's an offensive program.
Starting point is 00:27:23 And when Harrison went down in the game against Georgia, like they would own the game. Or they would own the game. Yeah. Yeah. So Ohio State, I don't buy that. It's an offensive program now. And should be. That's the U.S.C.
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Starting point is 00:27:47 I want to see your mock draft. Send it to me. It's not done. It should be done. Sorry. It's not done. It will be done this afternoon. A couple more things to iron out.
Starting point is 00:27:54 By the way, you are aware Miami Dolphins have forfeited their pick because of the Brady-Payton thing. So there's only 31 picks in the first round. All right. So you're going to send it to me? I'll send it to you. Okay. A lot of SEC guys.
Starting point is 00:28:08 Shocker. So I think the interesting one, because I think C.J. Houston's going to take a quarterback. My guess is. By the way, they could take, if they were bad, they could take another one next year. Arizona had three. They got a lot of issues. Jalen Carter, the defensive tackle at Georgia.
Starting point is 00:28:23 Four Colts. And that's where it gets interesting. They're taking a quarterback. Absolutely. So I think they're going to take C.J. Stroud. I'll tell you, the other one, it's very easy to bang on Will Levis at Kentucky. He's going to be a polarizing player. Atrocious O-line this year. Big, strong, A-plus arm, smart kid.
Starting point is 00:28:42 I'm just telling you, like, I know Colts fans are going to be like, we could get Bryce Young. I'd go Will Levis. Tom, did you see what happened to their quarterbacks this year behind that offensive line? I know they acquit in Nelson, but, I mean, Matt Ryan, I think led the league in like every bad quarterback to fumbles. I mean, he's getting destroyed. I don't want Bryce Young going to Indie behind that offensive line. All right. Back in a second live in L.A., it's the herd. live editions of the herd weekdays in noon eastern 9 a.m. Pacific. This is Steve Covino and Rich Davis.
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Starting point is 00:32:27 This is journal. Look at that right there. It doesn't look like he's... Now, J-Mack did acknowledge that his left foot, he had the left foot, the landing foot for a right-hander. Good observation. Here was Mahalms earlier today on powering through his ankle injury. It's doing good, you know, a few days of treatment, a few days of rehab. I'm excited to get on the practice field and kind of test it out and see where I'm at.
Starting point is 00:32:56 You've got to have to mentally just get yourself to focus on what needs to be focused on, and that's the team that you're playing, and you prepare your body all week. And then when you get to Sunday, you focus on playing the football game, and that's what I'm going to try to do this week. Yeah. Remember last week the overreaction to the Bengals being down three offensive linemen? Is there an overreaction to the Mahomes' ankle injury here? Yeah, it looks pretty good.
Starting point is 00:33:20 Yeah, I think, I do think, you know, it may limit some of his, escapeability. But I also think you can change your game plan. For instance, the Bengals, missing three offensive linemen, their game plan was very much short precision passing, combined with the snow, which limits upfield rushers. Their game plan was very precise, very focused. They played into Burroughs short game strengths. So they, you know, they built a game plan around missing offensive linemen. I think what's interesting this week, Chris Jones is so disruptive in Frank Clark on the interior of the O-line. So I wonder if Cincinnati's game plan this week is moving the pocket a little.
Starting point is 00:34:09 If you have to use a backup, O-Linman, against Chris Jones, do you move the pocket more? Do they run outside? Because it's very possible that Chris Jones is going to blow up that O-line for the Bengals. We talked about it last week. It wasn't a factor. Nobody on Buffalo is Chris Jones. He's right now he's probably, I thought Aaron Donald took a lot. a slight step back. Chris may be the best interior
Starting point is 00:34:30 lineman in the league. Right? He feels like half the season. Quirna Williams was dominant for the Jets. He was. Come on. But he's not Chris Jones. Chris is a Chris is a sick. Yeah, I'll give Chris a slight not. Yes. Yeah. Ryan's laughing. Slight nod.
Starting point is 00:34:46 No, I, so you basically if you look at football, we love it so much. It's like our kids. We're so passionate about things. You overreact. We overrated we overreacted to Dax's bad game. He had a good game. right? Then we overreact to Dax good game, and he goes
Starting point is 00:35:02 back to be in Dack, a lot of picks. So we tend to overreact to stuff. We overreact to, you know, the Jags, come back to win, and then they get housed by, you know, we overreact the Eagles dominating the hapless giants. Overreaction? I think there's a bit of an overreaction happening. It's going to be a shock to the system when Jalen
Starting point is 00:35:23 Hertz is like, oh, look at this Niners' defense. There's no holes here. None. Now, that defense is... I'm trying to think of the last defense that had a pro bowler in every unit. Maybe Baltimore, the Ray Lewis. Oh, that was... Yeah, that was a nasty group. Yeah, everybody.
Starting point is 00:35:37 You had Ed Reed in the back end. Yeah, the Broncos the year they won with Peyton. They were good. Von Miller off the edge. I think he was the... Yeah, he was... No fly zone. Akeeb Taleb may have been in that secondary.
Starting point is 00:35:49 Yeah, that was pretty good. All right, we're done for today. Peter Schrager Mitchell Schwartz delivered. The power hour. Hey. It's nothing but going straight to the sky. First things first around the corner. We'll see you tomorrow as they heard.
Starting point is 00:36:03 Another podcast from some SNL, late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter.
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