The Herd with Colin Cowherd - THE HERD - Hour 3 - Urban Meyer discusses a power shift in College Football

Episode Date: December 31, 2025

Former college head coach Urban Meyer discusses the Kyle Wittingham hire at Michigan, the trouble USC is in under Lincoln Riley and discusses the big matchups in the second round of the College Footba...ll Playoffs. Bowl Game or Bowl-oney?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:26 Ohio State's playing Miami. Let me start with this one before we get into the game. So you, you know, you were an athlete, you golf still, you get out there, you got kids, grandkids, you're active, you're 61. Whittingham, 66. Do you think in five years from today you would have the energy to be a college football coach? Take your, how you live today. Five years, that's a lot of good times. That's a lot.
Starting point is 00:03:53 Five years from today would you have the energy? 66 is a big number there until it is older. What do you make of that? personally no i would not uh just because the way i did it it was all in and uh you know Kyle's a unique breed Kyle is a guy that uh is 66 going on 56 I know him very well obviously he's in great shape uh but me personally no no chance no chance that uh to go back to work in the hours and the and the uh the grind no no chance What's his best asset? What's Kyle best at?
Starting point is 00:04:33 Oh, man. I've been asked this question a lot lately. He is a tough guy. He understands. His football acumen, I would say, is as good as anyone I've ever been around. You know, I'd put, you know, Dan Mullen, Ryan Day and Kyle and probably better in all of them. That's how he's such a smart guy, understands both sides of the ball. But I think the best thing he does is he demands respect. but he still is very close to his players. And I just always admired that about him when he was working for me years ago.
Starting point is 00:05:07 Yeah. Okay, Miami at Ohio State. Very good defenses. I think Julian Sands, the most underrated college football player in the country. I think he's really, really good. You know, everybody knows Ohio State's got great backs last year, great receivers this year.
Starting point is 00:05:25 It's Ohio State. I just don't know if Miami can move the ball much. I don't think Ohio State's going to march up and down the field. I don't know if Miami can move the ball in this team, can they? I don't think they can. I don't know. Unless Ohio State
Starting point is 00:05:41 does something very uncharacteristic and turn the ball over a few times, I don't see them. I did not see Miami driving the ball against Ohio State. I saw very few teams do that. The only team that beat them was obviously Indiana. And our man
Starting point is 00:05:57 Mendoza made some incredible throws. and I don't see Ohio State moving up the ball, moving up and down the field on Miami either. This is going to be a slug fest, and I just don't see Miami scoring. I told people if Ohio State scores two touchdowns, they win that game, and I still believe that. When you go into a game like this,
Starting point is 00:06:16 and you know it's going to be low scoring, you're the favored team, but you know it's going to be low scoring. Do you think Ryan Day will call a conservative game, basically believing, guys, we will eventually make a play on the, the perimeter, but we're not giving them points. I mean, I've seen Ryan do that before a couple times.
Starting point is 00:06:35 It's not a criticism. When you have Ohio State talent and you know the other team's not going to score much, would you be prone to try some fun stuff early or just go into it knowing we'll grind them down and we'll win? Because, I mean, I think Ryan Day watches film, you do. Miami's not dropping 28 here. They're not. So do you think Lionel coach conservatively?
Starting point is 00:06:57 I think he's in a very unique position of being the head coach now to play caller. He's always been very involved in play call. And you ask what would I do? I would do exactly what you just said. I would be very conservative as the game started. I would be such an emphasis on special teams and trying to, you know, I would always tell our offense and people get shocked sometimes that I see this. Your job as an offense is to get two, in this type of game, get two first downs and then see what happens. but you have to get two first downs because Colin that flips the field.
Starting point is 00:07:30 You get two first downs. You're near midfield. You punt the ball. They're starting inside their 10 if you got excellent special teams. And that's where the mistakes are made. Your job is an offense to stay out of that situation and put them in that situation in this kind of game. Now, if they have matchup like a matchup advantage, which I believe they do with those two receivers, there might be times as they cross or get near that 50-R line to show.
Starting point is 00:07:56 shoot the ball down the field. I would not mess around inside your own 10, 20, 25 yard line. Do not do that. Get two first down. Do you get near midfield? Go ahead and take a few shots because this will be a field position game because Miami's defense is legit, legit. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:12 Oh, yeah. And they can't screw around with that defense. I think Indiana is going to blow Alabama out. I think I've watched Alabama play six times and I don't know series to series. what I'm getting. They can't run the ball. They're inconsistent. Now, their receivers are excellent. I think Indiana is really good. I think
Starting point is 00:08:35 Indiana is the second best team in the country. I think if they faced Ohio State again, they'd lose close. You watch the Alabama play. You watched Indiana. Who do you honestly think it's better? Take the names off. Who's better consistently? How about Colin Coward saying Indiana is going to blow on Alabama and you still have a show to
Starting point is 00:08:54 do? That's amazing. 20-25. I think it's going to be very close game. I think on paper, Alabama's got that incredible roster. I'm like you. I was actually at the game with Bob Stoops watching the Alabama-O-Coloma game. I stood next to their players. I watched them in warm-ups.
Starting point is 00:09:11 I'm like, my gosh, that's a great-looking team. But they're up and down. Indiana, this is the most talented Indiana team of all time. Todd McShee said they're going to have eight players drafted, which is more than they had for the past eight years combined. And Mendoza, it's all on Mendoza. Mendoza has one of his days. Indiana wins if he does it.
Starting point is 00:09:33 I don't know if they can beat Alabama. Mendoza has to have a great day like he did against Trial State. So you and I, I think we agree on Lincoln Riley. Smart guy. Gosh. But we're several years in, and we don't see the toughness. They can't tackle. They just lost a good D.C. to Penn State.
Starting point is 00:09:58 I know he's smart. He's on the right side of the ball. I mean, that Jaden Maiav is one of the most improved players in college football. I don't doubt he's very good at the offensive thing. But, man, you got bowl losses to Tulane and TCU. It's really an interesting thing. There's so much I like about him. But you watch that last night at the end.
Starting point is 00:10:22 What do we make of USC Riley this morning? What do we make of them? Or should we just say it's a bull? game. Nobody's playing. They didn't play their starters. I mean, I had nine guys that would never see the field in the regular season game. All they wanted to do is practice with their young guys. Bulls are different
Starting point is 00:10:38 now. How do you view it? I think I've said this on this show and certainly on our podcast and Big Noon many, many times. That's the one job. I don't understand that it's not in the playoffs and we're not talking about them now in the second round of the playoffs. They have everything you
Starting point is 00:10:56 need. They have tradition. They have all the players right there. I think they have an excellent coach. Lincoln Riley has always been a guy looked up to and his football acumen is very high. But there's been a flaw that's followed him from Oklahoma to USC and that's defense, that's tackling and it doesn't seem to be going away. So I don't understand it. To me, that's the one of all, I put Florida probably number two. I just don't understand how Florida's not winning. But USC with the quality coach they have, the quality of talent within two hours of that program. The history tradition, the money, I don't, it makes no sense to me. And I watched
Starting point is 00:11:35 that game last night and I was in, because I have respect for TCU, but what are we talking about? We're talking about USC, with a, with a highly paid coach that's been successful. And how that, you can say it's just a bowl game. I don't look at it that way at all. They lost. U.S.C. shouldn't lose. Yeah. So you coached in the SEC and the Big Ten and it was understood for about 20 years, there were more Sunday guys down south. If Oregon, Ohio State, and Indiana win, can we say indisputably the Powers North, the Big Ten is the best conference? You know, how about Illinois beating Tennessee, you know, and Iowa, you know, they're playing
Starting point is 00:12:24 right now. So I said this last year that the top of the last two years, you don't have to say, you could watch it. The top of the Big Ten was better than the top of the SEC. I still thought the quality of depth of the SEC when you look at the NFL draft picks in the middle of the SEC down to the bottom is much stronger than the Big Ten. I think we need to reevaluate. If those things happen that you just said, well, certainly the top of the Big Ten is going to be better. But when Illinois goes and beats Tennessee, you know, I, it's a lot of it. And Iowa can beat Vanderbilt.
Starting point is 00:12:57 Then you're going to say top to bottom, the Big Ten, the power has shifted up north, which is an amazing thing to say. Okay, I'm looking at the score right now. I'm doing this live. Hold on. Vanderbilt. God, Iowa's hammering Vanderbilt. I just was watching.
Starting point is 00:13:15 And I mean hammering them. Playing great defense, tackling, and hitting a heck out of them. Iowa's tough. I watched Iowa play. Oregon, that was a go-either-way game. It was a crappy weather. That was a good game. It's a good TV product.
Starting point is 00:13:30 Yeah, it's pretty good. Let's see. All right. You know, I was thinking about this. You're friends with Kyle Winnihan, and he's at Michigan. And next year's Ohio State Michigan game. I mean, that's a tough one for you now. Right?
Starting point is 00:13:45 Like, how do you, how are you emotionally? Are you ready for that emotionally? Oh, I have to work on it. But Kyle called me. How about this, Colin? and Kyle called me. And he said, what do you think? And I thought, Kyle, you're 66 years old.
Starting point is 00:14:00 You just stepped down. You've been at Utah for, I want to say, 30 years. As a player, he played at BYU, he coached at BYU, then Utah assistant, coordinator, then head coach. The scrutiny he's going to be under is going to be immense. But there's no better football coach out there in the country than Kyle Winniham. And I'm one of his biggest fans and a very close friend. So, long story short, I am pulling for him in every game.
Starting point is 00:14:23 I just, do I have to answer that now? But he called me and I said, I said, quote, are you kidding me? And then I started putting two into two together that you have one of the premier programs, 110,000 people in that stadium, everything you need, and think what he's done in Utah,
Starting point is 00:14:42 or it's very limited. It's not a great recruiting base, and he's turned that into what he is. So this is going to be amazing to watch, man. It is. Okay, so I'm going, Ohio State, Indiana, Georgia, it's hard to, Oregon's just played the last two years against better players, better teams. And I do think that matters here.
Starting point is 00:15:09 But I don't think, I think Dante Moore is going to be under some duress. I think that game is going to be lower scoring. I guess I like Oregon. If you told me there was an upset, I'd say that. But I do, let me ask you this. So Oregon plays a much better schedule. Does that matter when you get into these kind of games? What you've done in the last 10, 11 weeks?
Starting point is 00:15:29 Of course it does. I think you know your strengths and weaknesses. There are some teams that, you know, if you don't play those strong games early, like Ohio State, I think, still trying to figure out their weaknesses. Their schedule really wasn't that difficult. They had Texas at the front end, they had Indiana at the back end, and in between it was a bunch of teams they were better than. So I think they're still identifying whatever their issues are.
Starting point is 00:15:53 Oregon knows. You know, Oregon had some tough-ass games on the road at Penn State, Indiana. So they've had some tough games. They know their weaknesses. So it's not so much knowing your strengths. It's knowing about where is the flaw in your program. And right now, Ohio State still, you know, they still don't know because, you know, obviously missing a chip shot field goal and the four down, the two red zone misses.
Starting point is 00:16:19 And then I've given up a couple of downfield passes. other than that Ohio State has no flaws. And so as they continue on this progression of Miami and then probably Georgia, it looks like, they're still trying to figure that. To answer your question, Oregon knows their flaws and they've been working on them. The other thing about Oregon that's,
Starting point is 00:16:36 you know, I've watched like seven Oregon games is they're losing both coordinators, which is a little odd. And the other thing is, for a big chunk of their schedule, all their wide receivers were banged up. So I feel like I don't, I've never seen Oregon play fully healthy. So I don't, I keep saying Oregon's beatable and I'm like, well, maybe they're not when they're healthier. So I do get Dante Moore and Lannning. I really like Lanting.
Starting point is 00:17:00 I think Lanning, I got to be honest with you, when they hired Lanning, a Georgia guy, I'm like, that's a weird hire. I'm not, I'm not sure Dan Lanning is going to work. Why is he so successful? I was the same thing when they hired him. First of all I didn't know he was. I heard his name. And then we struck up a relationship. He reached out a few times.
Starting point is 00:17:19 very great conversation. He invited me out. I spent two days with his program. And I walked away and said that is, that's, that's a, not only him, but his coaching staff. And now it's, it's picked apart a little bit. Like what happened to me at Florida, they start taking your coordinators and Tosh Lupoy and excellent defensive coach. And then obviously his offense coordinator. So they're picking him apart.
Starting point is 00:17:42 But Dan Lanny, what makes him, he's a player, he's tough as heck on the players, but he also loves those players and they love them back. So it was a, it's the way college football is supposed to look when I watch that practice. Tough physical and everybody going hard. Yeah. God, he's so, he's easy to like, man. He is, he is so passionate.
Starting point is 00:18:04 He is, it's just fun. All right. Well, enjoy that game tonight. Enjoy that game tonight. I think the Buckeyes to score three touchdowns, they win the game. Yeah, I'm going to go, I'm going to say it right off the top.
Starting point is 00:18:19 I'm going to go Ohio State 24 Miami 13 that's what it feels like that's 2110 yeah I don't know I don't know if Miami I don't know if Ohio State can score 24
Starting point is 00:18:38 maybe I'm we both feel kind of the same way we both kind of feel the same way we don't think Miami's going to score two touchdowns we both agree there yeah which last question how to or for you is which Carson Beck will show up. If he throws that ball to the Scarlet Jersey's, it could be much more than 24.
Starting point is 00:18:57 If he doesn't, it'll be a low-scoring game. Yeah, I kind of sold my Carson Beck stock. I think Crystal Balls had a hell of a year because every time I watch Miami, they got better. I think that's good. I mean, they got better. Oh, I watched that Pittsburgh game. I agree.
Starting point is 00:19:10 And I was like, oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I thought that was going to be, you know, northern Miami up north, and they blew them out. And I was like, wow, they have improved by two touchdowns. from august september all right urban good seeing you borkan you bet yeah i think it's i think it's on the number eight nine ten uh...
Starting point is 00:19:31 we'll see i just i like them i like the kind of flashy tony flashy miami blue blood ohio state i'm telling you i was hammering vandy illinois beats tennessee thank god for u s c so the c can feel good about it Somebody's got to lose in the Big Ten.
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Starting point is 00:25:05 To the division, I remain mystified that Seattle is a one and a half point favorite. It feels like I'm on an island here with the Niners. Every time I look online, all I'm seeing is Seattle, Seattle. Colin, Kyle Shanahan has actually jumped to the second best odds behind Mike Grable for coach of the year. Obviously, if he gets the number one seed, you've got to give it to him. I don't know. I'm surprised Liam Cohen's not getting more love. Jacksonville won like four games last year.
Starting point is 00:25:33 Well, he is getting love. I mean, his odds are plus 1,200. Why is Vrable that high? They've had the easiest schedule in the league. What are we doing? First of all, there are no easy schedule. No, they had the easy. They've played the weakest schedule.
Starting point is 00:25:46 They've played the largest number of teams that have a below 500 record. Give me a break. I've seen the Rams get whacked. by the Falcons and the Panthers this year. Panthers, I believe, have a winning record and could make the playoffs. But yes. I mean, Patriots lost to the Raiders in the opener, okay? Let's slow down.
Starting point is 00:26:04 Like, everybody loses a game. I would probably give it to Vrable, but I think I said as a coaching staff, the Niners have been absolutely ridiculously good. Given the injuries? I mean, Patriots haven't had the injuries that 40. I would go Niners. I would go Shanahan followed by Liam Cohen. That job in Jacksonville, tremendous.
Starting point is 00:26:23 Nobody. Some people had the Patriots like yourself. Zero people had the Jags making the playoffs, much less hosting a playoff game. I mean, Cohen made Trevor Lawrence look like the guy we thought he'd beat. No, that's true. No, that's true. He has.
Starting point is 00:26:38 I mean, Trevor looks like what we thought he was going to be out of Clemson. I think that's a good way to put it. You know, it may come as a shock to you, but I've made some enemies on the interwebs with my chargers are going to beat the Patriots in the playoffs. And now all these Patriot fans are going crazy. Well, Mays be MVP and Brable's a great. coach.
Starting point is 00:26:56 You think Vrable's that good of a coach, Colin? You had a been your super six or whatever it's called? You don't think Vrable's a good coach? I think he's good, but six? By the way, he had Tennessee as a number one seed. Look at Tennessee since he left. It is a tire fire. It's the worst operation in the league.
Starting point is 00:27:12 Big facts. If I said, Colin, you're starting a franchise tomorrow. You can have Kevin O'Connell or Mike Brable, who you have? Brable. And I like Kevin O'Connell. I'm taking K-O-C-Bee, baby. That's my guy. Offensive coordinate. Wait till he fixes J.J. McCarthy next year.
Starting point is 00:27:28 Okay. I know you can't wait for that. All right. Let's go to Tampa Bay and Carolina. I don't know. What's your excitement level for this game? This division has been so warm. I wanted to bet Carolina, but I'm 0 for three, and I'm not going to do it anymore.
Starting point is 00:27:42 I'm never going to bet an NFC South team again. Yeah. I'm not going to do it. Ever again? Ever. That's a little. I don't bet big. 12 football. It's too crazy.
Starting point is 00:27:56 Okay. Well, Baker Mayfield is a huge reason for the demise of the Panthers. It might be the shoulder thing. I don't know. Anyways, here's Todd Bowles calling out his quarterbacks play ahead of the win and in playoff game. It's mistakes. We've got to be better at the quarterback position. We've got to be better at the Sigma calling position. We've got to be better blocking it. Yeah, winning in this league is hard. There's no negativity inside the locker room, inside the building. as far as we're concerned, there's mistakes.
Starting point is 00:28:25 There's things we got to clean up. There's trust. There's belief. We got to play harder. We got to play a lot better. We got to coach a lot better. Sounds like a beaten down man, doesn't it? Like me after I got to take the trash out. I'm like, oh, gee, Bulls just looks like he's been through the ringer, man. It is hard to win. Go watch the Rams to fall behind in the first half. And now the Rams go to Arizona and you have to inspire your players.
Starting point is 00:28:49 Oh, Arizona's dangerous, are they? It's hard. But the Rams are in the playoffs. Tampa's fighting for their lives. By the way, this line is crazy. So it was three. Now it's two and a half. But here's the wacky part. Two weeks ago they played and Tampa was favored in Carolina by three.
Starting point is 00:29:06 Now they're getting less at home. This feels a little, I don't know. I don't know what to do with this game. I'm in a pick-em-pool. Who do you pick in this one? Oh, I don't. It's the MS. No, you have to.
Starting point is 00:29:17 You have to pick every game. It's a pick-em-pool. Every week, you've got to pick every game. I would. I have no feel for the Panthers. I would say bucks, but I have no feel. None. Basically, essentially flip a coin here, right?
Starting point is 00:29:30 Is that what you're saying? Yeah. Final story, Colin. Oh, this is fun. This is really fun. So a lot of reports about Mike McDaniel's future in Miami. Apparently he was gone. Now he saved his job.
Starting point is 00:29:41 Well, we'll see. One report has even linked him to the Cleveland Browns if they were to move on from Kevin Stefansky. Wow. The report suggested, the two could swap teams. So McDaniel, who knows a left-handed quarterback, would go there and maybe work with Dylan Gabriel. And Kevin Cefansky would leave Cleveland for Miami, which is like going from driving like a Civic to a Porsche.
Starting point is 00:30:09 And it's like, oh, hello. I had a coach swap. That's sexy. No? I mean, I just keep, I would keep Stephansky where he's at and Mike where he's at. I'm interested to see who gets the GM job in Miami. Got a few leads on that. Oh, what do you got?
Starting point is 00:30:26 Well, Mike, just throwing stuff out there. The new year. How about this? Instead of texting me updates about the Saints, can you send me something on the GM search in Miami? I mean, the Saints text is, I'm laughing. I'm like, what's going on here? Oh, boy.
Starting point is 00:30:41 All right, J-Mack with a minute. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Hurd-Lie News. Coming up next, Bull or Bowler? These bowl games are hideous. I like college football. I'm not watching them.
Starting point is 00:30:56 We'll explain that. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the IHeart Radio app. Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers, and guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, huge news? We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it.
Starting point is 00:31:20 We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Oh, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band.
Starting point is 00:31:42 Before Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey Jonas, and then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast.
Starting point is 00:31:59 But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL, late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smigel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman
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Starting point is 00:32:35 on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Last night, a blown call changed a game. This morning, the internet lost its mind. Highlights are trending, opinions are flying, and nobody's telling you exactly what happened. That's where Sports Slice comes in. I'm Timbo. Every episode we're cutting through the noise, breaking down the plays, the controversies, and the stories behind the headlines.
Starting point is 00:32:57 We go straight to the source, the athletes themselves, their locker room stories, their reactions, the stuff nobody gets to hear. The laughs, the drama, the triumphs, the moments that never make the highlight real. From viral moments to historic games, from buzzer beaters to controversial calls, we break it down, give you context and ask the questions everybody wants answered. Sports Slice brings you closer to the action with stories told by the people who live them. Listen to SportsLice on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Slic Life 12
Starting point is 00:33:28 and the TikTok podcast network on TikTok. The French Open is one of the toughest tests in tennis. And I know firsthand because I competed there myself. I'm Renee Stubbs, and on the Renee Stubbs Tennis podcast, I'm breaking down everything happening at Roland Garris. Every match, every upset, and what it really takes to win on Clay. Genschen win.
Starting point is 00:33:50 I mean, she went down in three to Rabakina, but I'm delighted. She's an outsider to win the French for me. And she likes Clay. Listen, Lena Rubakina is arguably the best player in the world right now, and I actually can win on any surface. Because if she's serving, well, good luck. Consider this your court side seat to the French Open. Listen to the Renee Stubbs tennis podcast on the IHeart Radio app,
Starting point is 00:34:13 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. by Capital One, founding partner of I-Heart Women's Sports. Jacob Kingston grew up in an isolated polygamous sect. We were God's chosen kingdom on earth. He felt destined for greatness. So when a swaggering Armenian businessman catapults Jacob into an extraordinary world, he doesn't look back. Ferraris and Lamborghinis, private jets, meeting the president of Turkey.
Starting point is 00:34:41 I'm Michelle McPhee, and this is one of the most shocking criminal conspiracies, I've ever come across. When Jacob met Levan this went to a billion dollar fraud. But with two kings from entirely different worlds, just how long can their empire survive? The largest tax investigation in American history. You need to tell me what you know. Is somebody coming after me?
Starting point is 00:35:06 Jacob told Levan, you're ruining my life. Listen to Kingdom of Fraud on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get. your podcast. Today is New Year's Eve in this time of the year. The staff prays on my giving nature. They now I get so wrapped up and giving back during the holidays that I forget to make time for myself and watch all these meaningless bowl games. There were 47 last year. At least we're going in the right direction. There's only 41 bowl games this year. And we're going to play a little game, bowl or baloney. I did not watch the game last night that included USC. I'm
Starting point is 00:35:49 out, can't wait for the college football playoff. Love college football. You ready to roll? So last year I had tears on my eyes at some of these. Let's see if you could do it again. All right, here we go. Throw it out. Sonoco 67 oil bowl.
Starting point is 00:36:06 That's a bowl. I think that is a bowl. Wait, come on. Six-seven. You know the six-seven thing with the kids? That's why they, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, oh, I got burned. Okay, okay, okay. Next up.
Starting point is 00:36:24 Bucked-up, L.A. Bowl hosted by Gronk. Okay, it's too weird to be fake. That's a bull game. Okay, it is. That's a real, but there's no way our staff is clever enough to come up with that. I don't even know what bucked up is. I like the logo. I don't either. But Gronk hosted it. Wow. Okay. All right, so there we go. Sheridan Hawaii Bowl. Okay, that, is the Sheraton still a hotel?
Starting point is 00:36:51 Honestly, is it? I'm going to say There's no way. Again, the logo looks too good to be fake unless it's AI generated. I say that's a real, that's a bowl. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:07 Okay, okay, okay. All right. Next up. Danny's Moon Over Miami, All-American Bull. That is a baloney fake. All right. We're right.
Starting point is 00:37:25 Yeah, you had me until moons over my hammy. If you did just stick with Denny's, I would have been a head. Way Motor City Bowl. Way Motor City Bowl. Now, it's too soon for the Waymo. I'm just starting to drive them six months ago. That is bologna. That's fake.
Starting point is 00:37:47 Nice. Waymos are awesome, by the way. They are. They are great. Very cool. Game above sports bowl. I'm telling the radio audience, all I can tell you is that logo is really good. So I'm going to say that is a bowl.
Starting point is 00:38:06 Yeah, we're right on that one. That's real. Okay. TikTok tokey, siesta bowl. Tick-Tong tachies. I mean, the absurdity, baloney, that's baloney. That's baloney, not bowl, that's fake. By the way, have you had talkies?
Starting point is 00:38:31 my kids love them. I've never had. I don't even know what a talkie is. A walkie talkie. Okay. Go ahead. Snoop Dog Arizona Bowl presented by gin and juice. Call me nuts, but Dave Portnoy bought a bowl. Kimmel bought a bowl. I say that's a bowl. I say that's a bowl. It is. I've seen celebrities buy bowls. My friend was involved in this, so I knew that. Gin and juice. Is that a Snoop Dog drink? Is that his... Snoop Dog song, yes.
Starting point is 00:39:08 Okay, okay. Morton's Salt and Sugar Bowl. Morton doesn't advertise. Salt doesn't advertise. You have to have salt on everything. You don't need to advertise. Wow, that's deep. I mean, honestly, like butter.
Starting point is 00:39:26 You never see a... I guess there's butter ads. I'm going to say Bologna. Nice. Yeah. That's fake. All right. 41 bowls.
Starting point is 00:39:36 Xbox Bowl. Again, great logo. Yeah. There's not even a football there. It's just like that controller. Come on. I think that's a bowl. That's a bull.
Starting point is 00:39:49 Wow. We are hot. I mean, if I missed one yet, it's too bad I'm not going to watch any of these. Because I'm like, I think I'm 11 in a row. Okay. J-Lab Birmingham ball. Oh, I think that's real. They were a former advertiser.
Starting point is 00:40:07 That's absolutely real. Yeah, that's a real. That's a real. J-Lab's got good ear pods. Yeah, yeah. Absolutely real. Days in, do not disturb, durable. First of all, that logo, the marketing director should get canned if that's the real logo.
Starting point is 00:40:28 There's a door with a do-not-disturb handle on it. That's funny. I'm saying that's baloney. What was the last time you said it in a days in, like 35 years ago? No, I've stayed. No, I've stated. Hampton in. Come on, you coastal elite.
Starting point is 00:40:43 No. Stay in a half. Hampton's in a year and a half ago, two years ago, day, absolutely. Dude, if you're by the airport and I got to get out of town, it doesn't matter. Okay. Okay, here's the last, this is the last one. Spirit Airlines Group of Five Ball.
Starting point is 00:41:01 I think they went belly up. I don't even think, is that an airline anymore? Oh, gosh. Spirit Group of Five Bowl. The logo, I'll say this. You guys, our graphics department is putting the work in. So I think I've got 15 right in a row. I'm going to say that's bologna.
Starting point is 00:41:25 That's not a bull. We got it right. Now, which one did I miss? I missed the first one. I don't even remember what it was. I think TikTok tockis was the best one. That is genius. So there were 47 last year down to 41.
Starting point is 00:41:45 Oh, okay. So here's the one I got wrong. That's a, I didn't get the whole six, seven thing. For the record, could somebody explain that to me? Nobody can explain it to you. No. Nobody knows. I mean, the kids don't know.
Starting point is 00:42:00 It's a big, it's just out there. It's just a thing. It's culture right now. Okay. So we've got Bull game tonight, Ohio. Ohio State, I think everybody feels the exact same way, unless you're a hurricane fan. Ohio State wins, just a little too much offense, two good defenses, 2113, 2110.
Starting point is 00:42:23 It's in that, the odds are right. The Raven Steelers is interesting because if Mike Tomlin wins, he'll be celebrated. Think about that if he wins, everybody's going to go, 42-year-old quarterback, no D.K. Metcalf, no Washington, no dependable running. game, and Mike Tomlin deserves a contract extension. If he loses, he's going to get beat up, right? It's going to be ugly. We don't know if Lamar Jackson's going to play. Here is John Harbaugh on that question. There was improvement throughout the week. I mean, it was not good at all early in the week and it improved as a week went on and that was that was caused for, you know, optimism. I think the fact that we have a lot of confidence in Tyler is a real big positive,
Starting point is 00:43:09 a real plus, but it doesn't factor into whether Lamar plays. If Lamar's ready to go, he's playing. That's it. For sure. He practiced today. And there's stories that Lamar wants to play in Miami. There was an NFL general manager that says Minnesota
Starting point is 00:43:29 would be the play. He's won 75% of his games. Eight years. This could be a seventh playoff appearance. I think sometimes you just got to say thank you for the effort. He's got a massive cap hit next year, which limits what they can do, but they draft pretty well.
Starting point is 00:43:48 So it's just been a weird year. It's, you know, practice doesn't practice. I saw a stat during, it could have been Sunday night football or Thursday night football. They were talking about how last year top speed was 15 and a half miles an hour, and this year it's less than 11, so he's not as fast, not as twitchy. And, you know, this league's brutal. I had a lot of conversations for years with Michael Vic when he was at Fox just about that. And he's like, you know, the first high school college in your first three years in the pro, you know, you can, you can, you can make a lot of hay.
Starting point is 00:44:22 But he goes, you'd be amazed how often, you know, you think you can run over a safety in high school or college, and then all of a sudden you try to run over a safety. Forget a linebacker. Forget a defensive end. Just try to run over a safety a couple times in the NFL. It's just not the same. And you just take, you know, a couple hip pointers, break a toe. all of a sudden your shoulders always hurt NFL just beat you up
Starting point is 00:44:46 so I'm excited tonight the college football playoff we have the eight best teams and college football is I think it was the first sport baseball and college football were the sports I initially fell in love with and NFL is just kind of taken over everybody's life but I can't wait for these games Vanny getting beat by Iowa
Starting point is 00:45:08 Illinois beat Tennessee what happens if the Buckeyes, Indiana, Oregon over the next two days, all win. And those aren't the TikTok-talkie siesta ball. I'll tell you that. Hey guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe.
Starting point is 00:45:28 I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it.
Starting point is 00:45:38 We're the first people to do podcasts. We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions. Well, sick and tired of. a strong way to put it, but, you know, tired and sick, tired and sick. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL, late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends.
Starting point is 00:46:01 Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel, help an acapella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and friends on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Last night, a blown call changed a game. This morning, the internet lost its mind.
Starting point is 00:46:30 And nobody's telling you exactly what happened. That's where Sports Slice comes in. I'm Timbo. In every episode, we're cutting through the noise, breaking down the biggest moments in sports and giving you the real story behind the headline. and we're going straight to the source the athletes themselves. Their locker room stories, their reactions in the moment,
Starting point is 00:46:49 and the stuff nobody gets to hear. Listen to SportsSlice on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Sliced Life 12 in the TikTok podcast network on TikTok. Winning on Clay is an art. The rallies are relentless.
Starting point is 00:47:03 And at the French Open, only the toughest survive. I'd know. I competed there for decades. Join me, Renee Stubbs, on the Renee Stubbs Tennis Podcast for no nonsense, breakdowns of the biggest matches, the toughest players, and the moments set to find Roland Garris.
Starting point is 00:47:17 Jen, she's an outsider to win the French name. And she likes Clay. Listen, Lernerabakina is arguably the best player in the world right now, and I actually can win on any surface. Listen to the Renee Stubbs tennis podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHeart Women's Sports. I'm Michelle McPhee, and I've been unraveling the strangest criminal alliance I've ever reported on a Mormon polygamist and an Armenian businessman. Multimillion dollar house, Ferraris and Lamborghinis, private jets, a billion dollar fraud.
Starting point is 00:47:53 But how long can this alliance last? Tell me what you know. Is somebody coming after me? Listen to Kingdom of Fraud on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an IHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human.

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