The Herd with Colin Cowherd - THE HERD - Hour 3 - Urban Meyer Joins The Herd & Tomorrow's Headlines ... Today

Episode Date: October 31, 2025

FOX Sports college football analyst Urban Meyer joins Colin to examine the various high-profile head coaching jobs that are open around college football, Lane Kiffin's possible next gig, can Penn State shock #1 Ohio State, and more! Later, Colin gets his flowers from the Herd staff after being inducted into the Radio Hall of Fame in Chicago on Thursday night! Finally, Tomorrow's Headlines...Today. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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of the week it is Halloween. I will be going as America's honesty broker. Jay Mack is Austin Reeves, undrafted. I have developed a terrible habit. My entire life was not a candy eater. You know, I like cookies and stuff. And, man, it rears its head around these holidays, like Easter and Halloween. I mean, it's just like you're just signing up for a $400 dental bill.

Wait until you're out here next week and you go to the candy drawer they got over here. Oh, boy, it's locked and loaded and I'm emptying it twice a week. All right. Urban Meyer will be joining us in about 30 minutes. He is live from Columbus, Ohio. The Buckeyes take on Penn State. Penn State's got the athletes. I'll tell you, they got the players.

But that program's in a bit of turmoil right now as they're looking for a coach. LSU, so is Florida, and Lane Kiffin's the leading candidate. But I'll tell you, to nobody's surprise, the Ravens thumped the Dolphins last night. But Miami has officially started the rebuild process after parting ways this morning with general manager Chris Greer, which is exactly what they need. They also announced they're going to keep Mike McDaniel for the rest of the year. Very smart. Don't put an interim guy in who reels off four or five wins and everybody goes, I'll hire the interim.

Okay, don't do that. You know what Miami's got to do next? Go hire Lane Kiffin. Everything about Miami's empty calories. Last night, time of possession, yards, first downs, Miami, as many as Baltimore. And they got blown out. They got no alpha. They got no culture.

Mike McDaniel's a great offensive coach. Ah, come on. I'll get the two of later. Here's why you go hire Lane Kiffin. Number one offense in college football last several years. Half the SEC quarterbacks this year, all that first round draft, quarterbacks, everybody's talking about what a great quarterback draft it's going to be for the eight best quarterbacks are from the SEC.

Lane recruited him. Lane faced them. Lane's looked at film of them. Nobody knows the SEC quarterbacks better than the current best offensive coach. So you get all the Mike McDaniel innovation, but you get an alpha. He played the position. he's a guy's guy he's got an attitude

that's what Miami lacks they got a smart guy in the building they got no culture they got nothing they're flimsy it's empty calories last night you look at the yards you look at a lot of the box score

you're like I must have been a close game and ah just all empty calories and by the way for college coaches now it used to be college looked one way the NFL looked another way but now college coaches like Kiffin, they have free agency. It's called the transfer portal. They pay the players.

So Lane Kiffin and Ole Miss doesn't have a great football program. They're good with Kiffin. They've led college football in offense. The NFL is an offensive league. He has been a CEO. Because in the NFL, you want your coach to be a CEO. Everybody's always like, get the GM first, then the coach. Ah, nonsense. Chargers got Harbaugh first.

A week later, they hire the GM. Go get Lane Kiffin at the end of the team. the year. Kiffin can keep bouncing around Florida, LSU, Ole Miss. It's college football. Take a big swing, Lane Kiffin. Take a big swing. College coaches like Harbaugh, they are CEOs.

They got the transfer portal, the NIL, it's all different now. It used to be college coach. He went to high schools. Belichick now, coaches college. He just write a check to get guys. So college and NFL is much more similar in style. This isn't about Tua.

That ship has sailed. They got a clean house. I would move off Tua. I would move off the coach. I would move off the GM. Do not put an interim coach in there. Do not do it because the guy reels off five out of six wins. And everybody in Miami is like, oh, my God, that's how the Raiders, you know, Antonio Pierce.

You get hot. You win a couple games. It's the substitute teacher rule. Everybody's great to the substitute teacher. That's not what you do. So you want the innovation. What does Miami have? Innovation. Don't lose the innovation.

With Lane Kiffin, you keep the innovation. And the other thing is, this idea that the GM selects the coach and the GM selects the quarterback. I got news for you. Lane Kiffin knows the quarterbacks in the SEC better than any GM. Season ends, write a check, get Kiffin. Let Kiffin make sure he likes the GM. I'd have Kiffin pick the quarterback,

then have the GM pick everybody else. Remember, folks, I know a lot of these GMs. I think they're really good. I think they're nice guys. They're smart. Half of them, like Tua more than Justin Herbert. Half of them. I mean, when Justin Herbert walks into a room, 6'6, good-looking, strapping guy,

4-2 biology major, howitzer for an arm. Tua walks into a room, it's like, are you working accounting? Certain guys look like pro-athletes. Half the GMs want to Tua. in the AFC where the best teams are like, you know, Baltimore, Kansas City, when Burrell's healthy, Cincinnati, it's going to be New England. In the AFC? What are we doing? So I think this is the way to do it.

Now, Mike McDaniel, after getting blown out, this was not about Baltimore last night. I told you yesterday, they're going to win. They're going to win comfortably. Lamar Jackson's back. They're going to reel off six straight wins or thereabouts. We knew they were going to win that game. This is about Miami. GM's out.

They're going to keep smartly keep the coach to the end. And I got nothing against Mike McDaniel. I think he's smart. I'd hire him in a New York minute to be my coordinator. He's not a head coach. Here he is after. Listen. The bottom line is you have to cross her T's and dot your eyes in the National Football League

or you get made pay. So it's a very, very disappointing. These are the things that will constantly occur in the National Football League. You won't like the results. No presence. Dan Campbell hits you like a strong drink. Mike Vrable, intimidating. You know, like Sean McVeigh walks to the podium.

He looks and feels like he's 6'8. Harbaugh. Presence. Presence. I said this about Kiffin. Kiffin can be snarky. He can be a smart aleck. Oh, you offend the donors.

You offend the athletic director. Yeah, get out of that world. I love college football. Get out of that space. Just deal with one owner. You know, you got to deal sometime. You know, Miami actually isn't that impulsive. Miami, you know, they gave Mike McDaniel a long runway.

I mean, they gave Chris Greer a decade-plus to be a GM, and I don't think he's very good. I get nothing against him, but if you have two as a car, quarterback, you have to have a good backup quarterback in a great old line. They have neither. So a lot of these GMs, you don't major at GM in college. You're a scout, you work your way up. I mean, first step, GM's out, second step, keep McDaniel, third step, get Lane Kiffin, let him choose the GM. Because these quarterbacks in the SEC, the eight best quarterbacks going into the draft for Kiffin's either recruited them, faced them, watched film on them.

All right. Secondly, Mahomes and Josh Allen faced this weekend again. They faced nine times. Mahomes has won five. Allen's won four. So when these guys came into the NFL, they had a lot in common. Both came, they didn't win a lot in college.

They both went to small markets, Kansas City Buffalo. Both the teams had coaches that had led their team in a previous season to the playoffs. Both are in insanely gifted, our two most gifted quarterbacks. They played nine times, and there have been wild shootouts. The difference to me is that Mahomes has the best offensive coach in league history.

Bill Walsh is the only other one in the running, and Josh Allen has a very good coach. And last year when these teams played, remember that push-push thing, Buffalo tried to do, and it looked unorganized? Remember that? It looked like they just told Josh Allen, Hey, Josh, you're 6-6. It just reach the ball over and get a first down. And that's the difference. I believe if Josh Allen gets Andy Reed and Mahomes gets McDermott, they both win a ton, but somebody else has the trophies.

I really believe that. Kansas City, when they played Buffalo last year, we're better on third down, we're perfect on fourth down, outscored Buffalo in the fourth quarter. Mahomes and Reed do not beat you in the opening drive. They beat you late. When Brady and Belichick were running around winning Super Bowl after Super Bowl, they weren't blowing people out.

They dominated the Rams, but every other Super Bowl, Belichick and Brady were in, were one or lost on one possession. The colder the weather gets, the later it gets in the season past Thanksgiving. Small becomes big. The minutia matters a ton. Situational football is the key to all of it. Again, when the weather's warm, Tua looks like a pro bowler. when the weather's warm at 72 degrees and everybody's healthy and comfortable that's not what the NFL is the NFL is December

half your defense is banged up three or four guys on the IR the weather stinks it's cold and the games come down to inches not feet feet not yards and so to me I look at McDermott I think he's a very good coach I look at Andy Reed as the league gets pivoted to offense as the greatest offensive coach along with Bill Walsh of all time. And so the meetings are always superb. They're the two most gifted guys that have played the position in a long time and perhaps ever. And here's Josh Allen ahead of the matchup this weekend. I think we've played them, I mean, damn near every year since I've gotten here. So, yeah, I mean, I guess you can look at it from a perspective of,

perspective of we kind of understand what they try to do to us. You know, but there's jabs, there's counters. You know, there's different things that you can do throughout seeing each other throughout the years of making things look the same, but being completely different. Listen, you get lucky sometimes where you get, you know, Yankees, Dodgers, big markets, big pressure world series. We all got Brady and Manning multiple times. I can remember some of the Tiger on the back nine,

Phil Mickelson in big tournaments. You don't get a lot of them in sports, but I do think Mahomes and Alan qualifies as a true all-time heavyweight battle. Looking forward to it. Again, I like the Chiefs. I like the over. I think they're going to score points, mostly because the weather is fun in Buffalo.

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Penn State football has got all sorts NFL bodies and players. They're a bit beat up right now. Those are dangerous teams to play. You know, I got to ask you. You know, LSU, you got the governor involved, yikes. You got Florida. You got Penn State. Like, I thought Brian Kelly was a Midwest personality,

and it just never felt like a fit. Of those three jobs, and I'm talking from donors, athletic department expectations, LSU, Florida, Penn State. Is there one that jumps out to you today is the best job? I would, they're all three Blue Blood programs. They're all three that have national championship expectation. But to answer your question, the one that stands out to me,

and you can say I'm somewhat biased is Florida. I just think that's, you know, Florida and LSU to me are right there, and it's all about recruiting base. You know, the problem at Penn State, Penn State's got the same problem, Notre Dame does. You have to go recruit the world. You can't put a little footprint. at LSU, you can fill a team with, you know, with a short plane ride from Baton Rouge, the Gators. You can certainly fill a roster with a three, four hour radius around your school.

So I would put one of those two. It's just the whole dynamics, what's happened with LSU is the reason I have them behind Florida. I don't really understand what's going on there with a governor. Now there's no AD. And I'll tell you, I had Jeremy Foley, Gene Smith, Chris Hill, and Paul Krebs, and you have got to be like this with that AD. and if you don't have one and if you're reporting to the governor

or the board of supervisors, whatever, to me that's just, you'd have to really research that one. What, I mean, I always had a theory on Brian Kelly. I just don't, you know, listen, I think he's a really good coach. I think he went down there and sometimes it happens in life. When you took jobs from Utah to Bowling Green to Florida to Ohio State,

you could have taken another job. But it wouldn't have been authentic because you were kind of worn out from it. You'd done it. You had your mark on college football. Brian and I do not blame him. I think it happens to a lot of men get in their 60s and they go to their family and they're like, listen, we just got offered a boatload of money. We can get a second house now in West Palm Beach. I think I'm going to roll up my sleeves. And I just don't think quite he understood the intensity of LSU. When I, I don't know, these coaching buyouts, I don't like

firing guys in week six or seven. What do you make of the buyouts? Are you surprised by it? I am, but it's all market value. It's something that, It really started towards the last half of my career when you saw all these zeros showing up in your contract. And I'd never been a big money guy and fight for this and fight for that. They would offer me a contract. I'd have someone look at it. And I normally just signed it right then because they treated it fairly. But I can see that if you're going to start getting fired after winning 70% of your games.

And you see James Franklin was, you know, you've got to protect yourself and your family. Because what you're putting yourself through and is it worth that kind of money? there's a lot of argument maybe it's not but it is what it is and i think more than ever now colin when you saw those three coaches get fired you know coach napierre it was a losing record the other two the other two 25 years ago those guys are coaching forever so i i think you're i heard the governor say that we're not going to do that anymore of louisiana that's the market value man that's that's what's happening um i want to ask you about lane kiffin i do believe coaching in college now with a transfer portal.

It's like free agency, and the NIL is like a salary cap. It does give you some experience in college now that you didn't have 10 years ago. And there's a little NFL feel to it. Lane's also an offensive coach. The NFL's an offensive league. And it's a big year for quarterbacks. And he's seen half of these guys. The draft quarterback prospects, according to Mel Kiper, I got a bunch.

I got a Bama guy, a South Carolina guy, Oklahoma guy, Garrett Nussmeyer. I got a bunch of guys, SEC guys, Lanes recruited him, Lane seen them, Lane's coached against him. He's looked at film. What do you think about Lane Kiffin doing the NFL? Lane Kiffin, we've actually become pretty good friends. We talk a lot and text a lot, and I think he has matured. I think he's one of the top coaches, obviously, in the game.

He also, he's got something I'm jealous of. He also enjoys himself. When I was coached, I was a nut job. You know, it was hard for me to get a good night's sleep. and I see him and I admire that how he's first, he's matured, seems like everything's in order, and obviously he's a hell of an offensive football coach and a hell of a coach. So I thought could be successful at every level.

Remember, he went to the Raiders as a very young guy. Yeah. But let me throw this about the SEC quarterbacks. We talked about this a minute ago. Todd McShay is a guy that I respect as well as including GMs. Yeah. His opinions, those quarterbacks in the SEC, I'm not sure neither is Todd. Are those guys the first?

round guys that you take and say you're my quarterback and I'm going to rest my career or not we're not you know I agreed with Todd he said most of those guys could probably get one more year before they can and go back go to the NFL yeah I think I think Mendoza in Indiana and I think Dante Moore feel like first round picks I also think late first round if you're the Rams and have Stafford and don't need a starter today Lenora sellers South Carolina is a guy I could take 25 fifth, sit in for a year, learn from a great pro. That's what I would do. But I think Dante Moran Mendoza to me, I'm like, okay, there's some juice there.

I don't see a lot of juice with Ty Simpson. I think he's fine. It feels late second. You know, there you go. Here's what I worry about with Ohio State. Ohio State's better, but Penn State's got a lot of guys. And, you know, they're a little wounded as a program. And Ohio State kids, they can watch the games, and they can go, guys, hey, I'm going to,

I'm going to have 10 catches. in this one. Do you worry about Ohio State the worst kind of teams to play? You're a big favorite, but they got a bunch of talent and would make their season beating you. Does Penn State worry you if you're the Buckeyes?

Of course they do, because the one thing that's not that in question is talent. I'm going to do this on Big New tomorrow that, yeah, Texas has more five stars than Ohio State. Penn State has as many four or five stars. I think it's like a 67 to 65 or something like that. So it's basically

the same roster. And then all of a sudden, Penn State was three points away from playing a national title last year. The majority of that team came back. They were seven points ahead in overtime against Oregon. And then it fell apart. So the question is not if talent is there now, they lost their quarterback. But here's the issue. You get exposed sometimes when things go bad. And Ohio State last year, it went real bad against Wolverines. What happened? They got exposed and it got better. I worry a little bit about Penn State. The got to expose when they lost that game and they fell off the map and lost three games. So talent is there. What I would do if I was

Ryan Day, I would show them the UCLA film and say this is the same team that lost in New Mexico by 25 points. So don't start questioning talent that you're going to see across the line of scrimmage from you. Okay, so I think I think

USC is going to beat Nebraska because I do I want to ask you a question. I do feel like players feed off a coach, his psychology. And I think Lane, I think Lincoln knows. It's one thing to lose. You know, you can go lose to some big dogs.

You can go lose at Notre Dame. You can lose at Oregon. You can't at USC in year four lose to Nebraska. And I, that is a, you better not lose it game. Because I think, I always say, wake up Saturday night at 9 o'clock.

If USC is lost to Nebraska, I mean, you get phone, Jen Cohen's going to be taking calls. So I tend to think the players will feed off the urgency of Lincoln. Lincoln knows how big this is. You have any feel on that game? I saw, you know, USC to me is a team A. I've said this before about a couple teams, team A and team B.

I witnessed the team A and I witnessed a team B. I saw the team B and live in a person against Illinois. That was not a great team. And then I saw them just beat the mess out of the Wolverines, and they looked like they had it all. The line of scrimmage, they had a skill, the quarterback was playing great, played good defense. If Team A shows up, they're better than Nebraska.

They're just a better team. Nebraska is a really good team, but USC, if Team A shows up, that's a wrap. If Team B shows up, we get a problem. And I agree with you. You lose your fourth year to Nebraska. I'm not sure what's going to happen. I don't know all that, but that's not good, obviously not good.

Columbus. If you're in Columbus, I've only been there three times. Now, since you're the guy there, are you taking the crew out? Is there a place you go every time? You got a little haunt there in Columbus? Oh, yeah. We got the Urban Meyer Pinethouse last night.

We had our podcast there, and then we're going to Jeff Ruby's Steakhouse tonight. So you only been here three times? Listen, I only go. Let's go, man. It's a mecca here of college football. I only go where I'm invited, coach. You know, I've only gotten a couple of invitations there.

I want to talk to Fox about this. That's right. All right. Urban Meyer. Great Urban Mike's senior coach. All right. Thanks, brother. Urban Myers Pinethouse.

Does that sound good on a Thursday, Friday night? Sounds good to me. Of course, J-Mack's in training. Doesn't sound good to him. He's got the gun show here. J-Mack with the news. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news.

This is the herd line news. It's getting crazy on the NFL front. A lot of movement on these injuries on a Friday. And one game to watch is Bears, Bengals. Everybody's very excited for the Bears to bounce back against Cincinnati. Caleb Williams has not been great. This is a great spot for him. Bears legend, Olin Kroote, believes that it's on Ben Johnson to get Caleb going against the bongles.

I would like to see him get in this quarterback going. As you know, that's what we're watching for, right? And Caleb has three interceptions and two touchdowns in the last four games. And that critical interception he threw against the Baltimore Ravens, you know, I put that on. Coach Ben Johnson, I think they're. tied together. I think that offense is all tied together, waiting for the schemes, the concepts, to put the ball in the end zone,

in the red zone. Some news literally in the last three minutes. So the Bengals have activated Sean Clifford from the practice squad. He is a quarterback. That probably means Joe Flacco's not going to go, Colin.

That probably means it's Jake Browning, the immortal. Jake Browning, Washington Huskies, isn't that where he? He was. Jake, I think when Jake came into the league and now people didn't have a lot of film on him. He's a professional. He's a backup. He's a professional.

I do think with backups, and you can have as much video as you want on Justin Herbert or Mahomes. They're going to make plays. But the more video you get, the more looks you get at backup talents, you can minimize the damage they can do. And so I think I really do think this is a really good matchup for Chicago. I think the offense is going to be comfortable. My take is in the games in which D'Andre Swift

has had the ability to pick up chunk yards for the bears this year, he did not last week, putting more onus on Caleb third and long. I think the bears are going to have a very robust run game, and this is going to be the bear fans. This is going to look a little bit at times, a little bit like the Dallas matchup. Caleb's got an extra beat. They're running the ball.

your play action on second and four, third and two. I like the bears here. So one thing that helped me a week ago, Colin, was two teams were heading into a buy and they're bad teams. And I had this feeling, oh, there's got a little quitted in them. They're thinking about their vacation. So here's who's on a buy next week. The Cowboys, I think they're still pretty good, right?

They're fighting for a walk-ards. They're not giving up. The Chiefs, obviously, they're not giving up. But the Bengals have a buy next week. and if Joe Flacco don't start this game, I wonder if we're going to see some shoulder slumped, defensively, offensively. You're thinking about their trip to Cancun,

taking the girlfriend to Hawaii, taking the IG girl side piece to wherever. This to me screams Ben Johnson, Caleb run game. I'm with you. I like the Bears a lot. All right, let's move on. Next game. Denver Broncos,

they are six and two. Lead the AFC West by a game and head to Houston. This is a big game against the Houston Texans. line is kind of flip-flopped a little bit here. Bo Nix, he's been pretty clutch leading record-breaking comeback against the Giants a couple weeks ago. Nix is not overlooking the Texans top-ranked defense. They fly around.

They do a really good job of attacking the football, making tackles in space. They're a fast-flowing defense. They don't do a whole lot, but they do what they do really well, and they're very consistent at it. They have some key players that you definitely have to be aware of, you know, just good football players. Well, I mean, it's Will Anderson. If you can...

He's a menace. Yeah, if you can keep Will Anderson out of the pocket. This is a stayaway game for me. You know, the Texans don't give me a lot of consistency. They'll be hot, cold, great, half, bad half, so I stayed away. I think Denver's got better personnel. But I said it last week, if you can keep the Denver pass rush off C.J. Stroud. Last week against the Niners, he had that extra beat.

CJ throws a beautiful football. So this is a stayaway game for me. I don't have a strong lean. Denver's the better team. Texans at home always dangerous. Yeah, this is a real difficult game to handicap. So Denver at home has been pretty impressive. Now they got to go on the road against a pretty nasty Houston defense. Houston hasn't shown up in their prime time games. Remember they choked against Baker, right? They were awful against the Seahawks. And I feel like that has kind of skewed the perception of them. People think, oh, they're Houston. They're not that good. There's still a lot of good players on this team. I think Woody Marks, the running back out of USC, I believe. He's in line for a big game, not maybe on the ground, but catching the passes

out of the backfield. That's a struggle for the Denver defense. So we'll talk about this game here in about 10 minutes. Yeah, I'll leave it at that. Final story, Colin, You know, there's this thing called the Radio Hall of Fame, and we got to give you a shout out. Big congratulations are in order to the big guy. Colin Cowherd, he's now in the Radio Hall of Fame in Chicago. Here's some images we got from last night for the audience watching on FS1. Pretty cool. There he is accepting the honor.

I had a suit in a tie. You get about once every five years. I wear a suit in a tie. There's Kim Commando. She was the MC. Radio Hall of Fame herself. And there you go. Thanks to everybody, the Radio Hall of Fame.

Julie Talbot, Premier Radio, Iheart Radio. That's a big old head of gray hair. Look at that. Yeah. There's Julie. Yeah, excellent, man. Listen, it's a pretty big honor. It's not like I work with Hall of Famers all the time.

No kidding. You should be a little more respectful. Oh, by the way, Alice Cooper and Martha Quinn So Alice Cooper is to your right. What a great guy that is. He's in, oh my God, he is the greatest guy for handicap. He's a great golf. He does too.

I walked up. I said, Alice, A, where's the python? B, what's your handicap? Is it that python thing? He's like a radio. He went from all the great music. And he has a radio show. He's been doing it.

And he said last night, he goes, radio never gets old. Because I love radio. I've told people that before. You know, TV, there'll be a point when they'll be just like, coward, your teeth fell out during the opening rant. Radio, radio, I can wear a hoodie and be like 104. You're in the Hall of Fame and you're talking to a guy dressed as Austin Reeves wearing a headband, a doofus.

Kind of, huh? Jay Max, a little Jay Much today with the biceps. All right, thank you guys. Thanks, everybody who has supported us and our staff here, and Ryan and Jason and Greg Tooie and everybody back for Shitted. Michael Libby, I'm just forgetting people. We've just got great people everywhere. Thank you very much.

Blah, blah, blah. All right, we're done. Okay. Well, you know, listen, it's a weird year. It's favorites. I'm not a fan of favorites. Jay Max got us picks right around the corner. We wrap it up on a Friday next.

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Colts Steelers can Pittsburgh bounce back? The headline will be Culturegeist. Steelers stay haunted at home. I know everybody's taking Pittsburgh here. I like the Colts. I'm sorry. Colin, listen, if you want to play that whole Mike Tomlin voodoo and this is a great spot and he gets his team up for it, go ahead. That's all you.

The reality is this Pittsburgh defense is. the worst Tomlin's had in a decade. Okay. And the Indianapolis Colts, you know, you could start comparing them, you know, somewhat favorably to that greatest show on turf with Kurt Warner. That's how late it's been for the market to catch up to these guys. Colin, they have six games where they've scored 31 or more points. And it's not only indoors. They're able to move it on the outdoors as well.

I think Jonathan Taylor's a lock to win offensive player of the year. I mean, you've got past catchers all over the place. Tyler Warren's a matchup nightmare for the Steelers. I do think Pittsburgh scores on the Colts defense, which isn't great. And I haven't faced a lot of guys. But I like the Colts here. I mean, all signs to me, six and two against the spread indie, tied for best in the NFL. Don't you think that maybe it's possible?

This is just a really good team. It is. Yeah, it is offensively. It's an exceptional team. Tomorrow's headlines today. Niners at the New York Giants without Scataboo. You know, it's rare, but sometimes Colin Coward has an impact on me. and this game, it was felt big time.

Their headline for Niners Giants will be Kittle Shop of Horrors. Giants plants clipped by Niners. I'm going with you on this. Gosh, I hope it's Brock Purdy. My goodness. I don't know, Mack Jones. It feels like he's kind of sort of falling apart. And I do have questions about this Niners defense.

Colin, we've seen it without Bosa, without Bryce Huff last week. They can't get to the quarterback. Yeah. And if you're not hitting dart, listen, he's making plays. The kid, I know you don't love him as rookie of the year. but the numbers right now and the odds say he's the favorite. I'm not saying he's going to be the franchise quarterback for what he's done this year without Malik neighbors and now no Scatibu.

Listen, they play well at home, right? They showed well against the Chargers. Got kind of lucky there to beat them 2118. And I'm going to rock with the Niners here only because I trust Kyle Shanahan. And I think you said it best earlier this week. He was angry when he stepped to the podium. He had the hat pulled down and he's like kind of gruff. I like Shanahan and the Niners to bounce back.

So this is a stayaway for me. I'm interested in your take. Tomorrow's headlines today. The Denver Broncos at the Houston Texans who are mercurial. You don't know what you get. But man, when they play well at home, watch out for the Texans. That mercurial, what do you drop? A T vocabulary words here in hour number three in a power hour?

Good stuff. The headline for Texans. Broncos will be Texas move the chainsaw massacre. Bo bleeds while CJ leads. It's a battle of young quarterbacks. I give a slight edge to C.J. Stroud here. Colin, listen, I know Bo carved up the Cowboys.

Listen, man, they're terrible. Everybody carves them up. But C.J. Stroud had a good game last week against the Niners. This is going to be, I believe, a low-scoring game. Two outstanding defenses that get after the quarterback. But the big key for me is no Patrick Sertan here. Also, smaller level. Marvin Mims, who excels special teams, wide receiver.

He's in a concussion protocol. doesn't look like he's going to go. He's an explosive player. But the Sertan injury, I think, is big. If you believe that teams can kind of find their footing in the biweek, famously Tom Brady and Bruce Ariens a couple years ago in Tampa. Yeah, yeah. I wonder if Stroud figured out some things because he looked,

the best he's looked all year last week against the Niners. And Nico Collins is back. So that's a big get back. I like the Texans here. I know you love the Broncos, but who are you taking next five years? CJ Stroud or Bo Nix? I think C.J. Stroud is really an elite

armed talent. And I think Bose are more active, better athlete. But C.J.'s, it looks different. It looks very Drake May when it looks like that. Yeah. Tomorrow's headlines today. This one's a sneaky good game. Panthers at Green Bay. This is going to be

sneaky close, in my opinion. You got in my head earlier with this. I'm feeling dumb. The headline for Panthers at the Packers will be silence of the Lambo! Panthers strap in for slaughtering. Everybody knows that's your favorite movie.

So obviously we had to play on Silence of the Lambs. I just, I think the bad teams this season, Colin, are very bad. Yeah, you're right. You're right. The Panthers are in that group. They're just not very good. I know it was Dalton last weekend.

They got their doors blown off. So on the road, at home they've been feisty. Do you remember when they went to New England? Everybody's like, ooh, there's a spot for the Panthers. 42 to 13. Like, this defense can't stop. anybody. And I do believe something clicked with LaFleur. He was run heavy against Pittsburgh in the first half. And second half, he's like, you know, screw it. Let's just unlock Jordan Love.

He had 20 straight completions. And if they just play to their strengths, Jordan Love against his secondary, I think they can roll over them. And then you hammer Josh Jacobs. The big question is, can they stop the run? And I think they answer with Micah Parsons is yes. I like the Packers here. I know it's a big number, 13-ish. But give me the Packers like 37-17. This one seems almost too obvious. Tomorrow's headlines today, Tyler Shuck at the Rams. You know, this is the one that I didn't pick. I think the Rams could take a 34-0 lead,

and those games scare me to death so I stayed away. Yeah, the double-digit favorites this season, I think straight up are 8-0 or 9-0. They're running away with it. And by the way, favorites are on a 12-2 heater. I know this is a big number. You're terrified of it. I'm not.

The headline for Rams Saints will be sour Patch Kids, Saints Puka, after too many butter fingers. Listen, I'm sorry, I don't think Tyler Shuck is a NFL starting quarterback. To me, the Saints are basically doing a soft tank at this point, and I would not be surprised if you hear Alvin Kamara's name bandied about next week ahead of the deadline. There's a receiver they have, a couple receivers they have who could be on the market. They'll keep OLAVe. But I just think this is a Rams team, Colin.

McVeigh off a buy. I know they have the Niners on deck next week, and that's a big revenge spot for them after that humiliating loss at SoFi. But this is a really good Rams team. Puka, obviously getting back is massive. And the thing I loved about the Rams in London is they totally changed everything. They went three tight ends, heavy. The Jaguars were ill-prepared.

I mean, they could pull something off like that against the Saints. And by the way, the Saints losing their center, Eric McCoy, massive. They could do nothing offensively last week. Rams picked their score. I think they roll here. Finally, the game of the weekend. Tomorrow's headlines straight. Chiefs, favor at the Bills.

Yeah, I gave you the stat earlier. Josh Allen has not lost as a home underdog in five years in Orchard Park. The headline for Bill's Chiefs. Oh, boy, here we go. It! The Bills are the Chiefs aren't. Colin getting Buffalo. I'm on an island.

And this is funny. If you look around at who's picking this game, I can't find anybody. taking the Buffalo Bills. I don't, I don't see it anywhere. You love the Chiefs. Everybody at this network's on Kansas City. Why is everybody off of Buffalo? Just because Kansas City, you know, destroyed the Raiders in Washington with their backup quarterback. I mean, was that Detroit win that impressive? Detroit away from home has not been otherworldly. So I don't, I think the bills, I know the injuries hurt. And this Ed Oliver situation stinks. Dequan Jones, I'm seeing. Up the middle, Oliver and Dayquan are good. They're both going to be out.

so they are susceptible to this the linebackers aren't great the safeties are mid the mesh patterns the cross concepts of Xavier Rice they could run wild now McDermott's a defensive guy I don't want to go overboard if he gets like if they get boxed here they lose by two touchdowns and all of a sudden the bills are like

falling down the pecking order I think we start to hear about is this McDermott's final run because Colin they came in as Super Bowl expectations you get the chiefs at home you got to win this game man and how's this for a fun staff for you. Kansas City Chiefs, nine fumbles this year.

They've recovered all nine. Nice luck on their side. It just so happens to always work that way. On fourth down, I believe they're 14 of 17 this season. Is that my homes and read or is that a little lucky on fourth down? Remember Washington last year was the best fourth down team in the league. How they doing this year on fourth down?

It's a little random. I think the fumbles are totally random. Very. Good stuff. Tomorrow. It's headlines today with J. Mack. I think my lead take today is Miami has fired their GM and they're going to keep Mike McDaniel for the season. My big take is instead of hiring somebody that's never been a head coach, Lane Kiffin's but a head coach at Tennessee with the Raiders, with USC,

and now at Ole Miss and a smaller school in Florida, hire a head coach. And it's a big year for quarterbacks, many of them, second round or summer first. Lane Kiffin's seen half of them. I would hire him as the head coach. I think college coaching is much more similar to NFL today because I think the transfer portal and the NIL is like NFL free agency. In fact, that's what Lane said three years ago about this.

It's NFL free agency. You have salary caps now. It's much different. Jim Harbaugh. Also remember when Harbaugh comes into the Chargers, have you seen their first two drafts, these college coaches have an advantage over NFL GMs and NFL coaches. Lane has all these SEC guys.

Lane's recruited him. He knows the. Dominer. He knows the stuff that GMs and coaches in the NFL today do not know. So I think Lane for two to three years, if you gave him some personnel power, then you have to hire a GM, but he would have

to be amenable to working with Lane Kiffin. Lane's going to know that personnel. So I I know I go ahead. Real quick. So Lane Kiffin gets to pick his quarterback, everything at Ole Miss. Anything he wants he gets.

Right? He's the man in the state. you go to Miami. You got an owner. We'll see who the GM is. All Lane cares about is getting the quarterback. They're not even going to be drafting. Top four or five, I don't think. Well, just be careful.

I think, you know, they have, you could trade, you know, next year's first round picking Jalen Waddle to move up three spots and get your quarterback. I mean, there's no dominant Andrew Luck. You know, it's not, I don't think it's as good a class as the Drake May, Jane Daniels class.

I think there's a lot of second-round quarterbacks. The kid at South Carolina is a late first to me, and I think Dante Moore and Mendoza feel like solid first-round picks. But right now, the dolphins have the fourth pick. And by the way, the number one quarterback pick usually isn't the best quarterback. It's often the second or the third quarterback taken. So you could stay with Tua, but the dead cap money is overrated. Denver's got in dead cap, you know, hell with Russell Wilson,

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