The Herd with Colin Cowherd - THE HERD - Hour 3 - Urban Meyer stops by The Herd
Episode Date: February 17, 2026Colin also discusses Mark Cuban’s comments about tanking in the NBA and why he makes a great point about the real problem that league is dealing with He also talks to Urban Meyer about the colle...ge football playoff and what might hurt Fernando Mendoza when he gets to the NFLSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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So Urban Myers coming.
Nick, Nick Wright and I talked, you know, I mean, I don't think you want 27 teams in your league tanking,
but I think Mark Cuban's point is one that we should listen to.
I just, for the record, I just saw the NBA, was it last year,
signed this massive deal with Amazon, ESPN, and NBC.
It's like $75 billion.
Well, there was tanking.
for years.
There's been tanking for 30 years, and they still got their money.
I just watched the All-Star game ratings.
They were the highest in like 15 years, and there's been tanking.
I mean, NBC, the NBA got their money, the NBA got their ratings.
I mean, the Saturday Night Dung contest has kind of played out, but, you know, it lasted for a while.
So what is the tanking really doing to the NBA?
Well, it's anti-sports.
Well, again, it doesn't seem to be hurting the bottom.
line. I mean, the ratings are up and they got their money and nobody in San Antonio's
complaining about Wembe. The bigger issue is, as Mark Cuban points out, as all these aprons
make it impossible to transactionally quickly rebuild your team, you can't do it anymore.
So I said this yesterday multiple times with John, when John was there and JMA wasn't, I said
multiple times. The NBA needs to do more NFL and baseball. Give a,
owners and GM's multiple routes to rebuild.
The current NBA model is draft and develop.
Hope your fans are patient.
And so, I don't know, here's Nick Wright last hour on the tanking problem in the league.
I don't blame individual teams for doing what is logically coherent to the path.
I blame the league massively for allowing these incentives to exist.
I am fine with teams making roster decisions in the offseason or the deadline that say we are looking forward to years down the road.
We are going to trade away older or better players for draft picks.
That's fine.
What I am not fine with is teams actively, once you have the roster that you have, not trying to win games or teams sitting healthy guys that is flatly bad for business.
Mark Cuban disagrees.
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And golfing, having a really good offseason, golfing with Big Schoff.
In fact, Nick Saban last week.
Urban Meyer is now joining us live on the show.
By the way, how's Nick Sabin doing?
I like Nick.
Nick's has a good sense of humor.
What's it like to golf with Sabin?
Is he kicking the ball when you're not looking or is he pretty good?
No, he's actually really good.
I play with him many times and, you know, he even told me.
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So I know this freaks people out.
But when I saw a story last week in the New York Times about potentially the Big Ten's talking about 24 teams, everybody freaks out.
And I said, well, there's one thing I like about it.
It makes the committee less relevant.
I don't like the committee having any power.
Give me more teams and it takes them out of it.
I mean, when you hear 24-team playoff, do you blanch at that?
Do you go, ah, yeah, or do you think, well, it's already big.
What's wrong with, what was your reaction to it?
Yeah, I think that's too many games, too many teams.
I like the idea because I bristled a little bit of 12.
I said, there's really not 12 teams that can win at all.
think we're in the golden era of parody and college football.
I mean, you had the number 10, Miami really should have won the game.
I was there and they should have, they could have.
And I stood there and watched them warm up.
They were a national championship-looking team.
So my initial reaction, that's too much.
But with what's going on in the world and parity in college football right now,
I still think 24 is probably too much.
Because I think one thing we better look at is this darn calendar.
When you're starting to play games in the 25th of January,
and you just keep adding games,
I think that's a little bit too many, too many games.
Yeah, I think the magic number may be 16,
but again, I'm, I agree.
I was like you.
I used to argue I've never heard of a fifth team
being worthy of a national championship,
but with a transfer portal now,
and the thing about the transfer portal, Urban,
is that it takes longer to build chemistry.
So, I mean, we watched Mendoza in the first month,
in the last month, he was a different quarterback.
And we watch Miami midseason to the end of the season.
That's a totally different team.
So the NIL and transfer portal is the same thing with the New England Patriots.
Vrable goes there, buys a bunch of new players.
They're lousy in September.
They're in a Super Bowl in February.
So college football teams, it's not like you always kind of had a sense in September,
kind of what you were.
It's like college basketball.
You don't know what the hell you have by mid-October.
So I argue, to your point, 12 or 14 teams.
you think you know who the best team is.
You don't really know who it is now, right?
No, there was a day calling.
You could say the best four.
I used to call them they lead eight because I'd circle every year.
These are the eight teams, in my opinion,
they could go compete for a national title.
I thought eight was a lot.
And think about last year you had the playoff,
but then Texas and Notre Dame were not in it,
and they certainly could have competed for a championship.
So, yeah, I think you can certainly come up with a scenario
where 16 legitimate teams can go take a swing at it, which I think is great for college football.
So I'm reading a NFL analyst yesterday, and he said, listen, there's a red flag on Mendoza.
He and Justin Fields have the same college numbers.
They hold the ball too long.
They take too many negative plays.
And so I went back and I looked at Mendoza against the very best teams he's played.
And he had some negative plays.
When you watch Mendoza, you're just your initial instincts.
He's not your player.
But if you were looking at tape of him like Kurt Signetti did it, Cal,
do you think those are legitimate criticisms in that he kind of holds on to it?
He takes too many negative plays.
He's too willing to sit in the pocket and get blistered,
which, by the way, everybody loves the courage of that.
It's not recommended in pro football.
What to you is a red flag with Mendoza?
Does he have one?
I get asked about a lot of people, and I know Mendoza.
I feel like he is our quarterback because I spent so much time with him.
We covered him on Big Noon.
We're there.
I got to know him.
I've talked to him mid-year, Tom McShay and I both said this guy needs to come back for another year.
He's not ready.
And then he went on a magical run.
And I mean, he is more than ready.
And once I got to know this guy, I think he's, I compare him to Drake May.
I compare him to, you know, I had Alex Smith.
I just think the guy is a coach on the field and the best version of Mendoza, we've not seen yet.
You look at game five, six, and you look at the last four games of the season.
Other than his jersey number and name on the back, he improved that much.
And I just love this kid.
I like all first picks in the draft, you're going to go and the Raiders were historically lous.
I mean, Mark Ingram made a comment.
That's the worst pro football team he's ever seen.
So my worry is he gets stuck on a really bad team
and then all of a sudden he gets labeled a bust,
which I can't stand that because bad quarterbacks on bad teams are not busts.
They just take turn, you know, until they build that team up around them.
So Mike Elko, coach of Texas A&M said,
and we've talked about this forever,
the difference between the NFL and college football is Roger Goodell.
The difference between boxing and UFC is Dana White.
There's no centralized voice in college football.
That's why the schedules are uneven.
That's why Fox and ESPN are, we have, we have, you know, Elko basically says,
you got to get somebody to run this thing.
It's a billion dollar business.
Why wouldn't you or Nick Saban?
Why wouldn't you be interested to just, you know, I mean, Saban and you both ran massive
college football programs.
You're very good at broadcasting.
If you had to elect somebody, is there somebody out there?
Would you be interested in being that guy?
I would not.
I should ask Coach Saban on the third hole or fourth hole the other day if he'd be interested in doing it.
I would imagine not, but who knows?
I know he loves a game.
And we spent a lot of that day talking about how to improve it.
And the only comment I would say is that you're going to need agreement for everybody to go and cooperate and say we're going to actually listen.
Because right now, the last thing that college football needs is more rules.
The rules are in place.
Now, they're not enforced.
So it's like a big city
where all of a sudden you have laws
that no one's enforcing the laws.
It's chaos.
College football is chaos right now.
And it's not because we need more laws
or more rules.
The rules are in place.
You're not allowed to tamper.
You're not allowed to spend over this amount of money.
You're not allowed to do this.
But people do it and there's no recourse.
So I think it's,
I think Coach Alco has got a great idea.
I think in the perfect world that happens
and everybody lives underneath those set of rules.
But to say we need more
rules,
Colin,
every rule is in place right now
to have a functioning game
behind the scenes.
But there's no enforcement
are zero.
So I'm looking at the first round
and Caleb Downs is going pro
and Reese's and styles
and Tate.
Man, there's a lot of guys.
It's been a talent drain.
Now, Ohio State recruits at a very high level.
Nobody disputes that.
But we saw it this year with Alabama.
You start losing this.
This guy, this guy, this guy.
Suddenly Alabama doesn't have a run game.
They run out of running backs.
So even for Alabama, I saw Georgia this year, and you're like, well, they don't have
the pass rushers they used to.
Georgia, they don't have that second corner like they used to.
When you look at Ohio State with all these great first round picks the last several
years, do you worry that there's going to be a year or a moment where you're like, guys,
we just, we're, I mean, the Big Ten's never been better.
USC is going to be better.
Michigan absolutely is going to be better.
Oregon's going to be,
Dante Moore comes back.
Indiana now is a powerhouse.
Do you worry about the Buckeyes personnel losses?
I do.
And I talked to Coach Day,
obviously, I'm very close with them.
And I said, what's the biggest difference?
And he said, the biggest difference is when Zeke Elliott went down,
we had Curtis Samuel.
When Curtis Samuel went down, he had J.K. Dobbins.
We stockpiled guys.
There is depth behind.
your guys. And so if something
happened to that player or
the reality is when players are playing
80 plays or 75 plus, that's too much.
And when you're, when there's a
huge difference between your starter and your
backup and your three, like
what I mean, I had a bunch of good players.
When I wanted to give Zika break, I jog
Curtis Samuel on the field. When I wanted
to give him a break, hey, JK, I know you're
I know you're on, but come on in here. So we
were, you know, you just get loaded up in Alabama
was that way. And what you're seeing is
that's no longer the case because they leave.
People are off in a more money to play starter money at Indiana.
Starter money at Texas Tech, starter money at whoever, Duke.
And they're going.
And I don't blame them.
So that's the big, and that came right from Coach Day, and I get it.
And other guys have said that as well.
Yeah.
Did you ever before a draft?
Did you ever sit down with players and say, hey, listen, you're going to be famous, you're going to get rich.
Now, the NIL, actually, one of the things I love about the NIL, players get a taste of money before they get a bunch of money.
And so it's not like you go from can't afford pizza on campus to, you know, you could buy six Mercedes.
It's like you get a little bit of money.
And you're like, okay, I got to be a grown up.
And if you make mistakes, you know, you're still in college.
You got, you know, you're going to eat.
You're going to be fine.
You got support.
What would you, when kids didn't have NIL or did you ever give them pre-draft or pre-NFL advice?
Did they come into your office and say, hey, be careful about this and be careful about that?
I did, or especially early in my career when you had.
had that kind of relationship with the player. What happened is I got older and these the agents
became their best friends. So I mean, they never met the agent and all of a sudden the coaches are
out, the family's out and this agent is controlling everything. So it really changed probably the last
five or six years of my career where when you had these drop, you know, Zeke Elliott, a Joey Bose
and Nick Boe, all these guys and you want to start having these conversations with them and you do,
but they're gone. They leave in January.
And they go to the sites with their agents and train for the combine,
trained for the,
they give them fiscal training or financial training.
They give them all that.
So it's really not like it used to be,
but that used to be a big part of our deal is preparing these guys for life after the NFL.
But that really changed when everyone started getting these agents,
and the agents would just take over that.
Hey, I love Kurt Signetti, but I would argue,
I was banging on, you know, Shanks loves Indiana.
And I had to just have a talking to with him and say, hey, you got to settle down.
So the year before Mendoza got there, they lost games, and they did a lot of beating up on Western Illinois and a lot of these lower-ranked schools.
And so everybody said, oh, they got the second best offense in the country.
Then they played Notre Dame in the playoffs, and they couldn't do anything.
So they were a bit of a fraud.
And then this year, they weren't.
They were very good.
But I argued this.
If you take Mendoza out, they do not beat Ohio State.
they don't beat Miami.
I don't know if they win at Otson, and they were...
Penn State, they lose to Penn State.
They lose to Penn State, and I don't know if they beat Iowa.
I think they were tied with Iowa in the fourth.
So my take is this idea that Indiana now is Ohio State's rival.
And I'm like, slow down.
Mendoza changed everything.
I like Indiana.
And they're going to have better players.
Ohio State's got way better players.
And the quarterback's better.
So have we got a little crazy because it was a magical season, but Signetti, they couldn't move the ball when they played Notre Dame in Ohio State, you know, pre-Mendoza.
They weren't moving the ball up and down the field.
They were like every other team that faced Ohio State and Notre Dame.
They couldn't move the ball.
Have we got a little crazy on the Indiana putting them now as a top five program in the country?
Yeah, you're out of our minds, but I am too.
I mean, because I witnessed it.
I will not bet against Indiana.
I kept waiting for that house of cards to fall, and it never did.
And I watched them, and you could say it was Mendoza because he did.
I agree with that.
But that's the case of a lot of schools if you don't have a star quarterback like that.
But I'm telling you, they had one fumble in game one.
They didn't fumble again the rest of the year.
They gave up the two as big plays in college football.
They had least penalized teams.
So I'm banking on that coaching staff to keep them going.
Are they Ohio State?
No.
I don't know if they'll ever be Ohio State because, you know,
Ohio State's one of the top three or four.
But Indiana has certainly solidified themselves as a top ten.
If they get a great quarterback again, I think they'll be pretty close.
It's an amazing story.
Amazing.
I mean, Michigan's not Ohio State.
They think they are, but they're not.
That's Michigan.
You said that, not me.
That's good.
I just said it to be obnoxious.
They're pretty close.
All right.
Plus, they got my friend coaching them now.
They got my friend coaching them.
Kyle Whittingham.
that's right great football coach
elite no nonsense
no nonsense no BS
with that plus you know
you know everybody's like
oh you know he's an older coach
you know what
Kyle's like a workout guy
he's he's a very young
whatever he is he's a
he's a 50 going on 67
but he told me this I talked to him not too long ago
he says we got a hungry group man
he loves his team I was like really
yeah he
he loves that team
already.
Interesting.
All right.
Keep enjoying your golf.
Say hi to Nick Sabin next time you golf with him.
I appreciate that.
I love Nick.
I think Nick's a good time.
All right, coach.
Take care.
Good seeing you.
Yeah.
He didn't just golf with Saban.
There was a bunch of big people in that forsome.
I'm looking at the names of the forsome.
Holy moly.
I mean, I'll go, like,
said, Ron DeSantis was the least well-known.
That's quite a forsome.
I'm trying to get J-Mack to golf with me.
It tells you my status in America.
All right, J-Mack, with the news.
No, no, no, no.
Turn on the news.
This is the Hirdline News.
I haven't picked up a golf club in like two years, and I'll still out drive you, buddy.
Such a great sport.
Rip it and rip it.
Short guys struggle with the distance.
We be short.
These are short, buddy?
Come on.
Let's start with Joe Burrow, Colin.
and your guy, glass Joe Burrow, guy who cannot stay healthy.
It's been a rough go here.
No playoffs in the last three seasons, and Burrow cannot stay healthy.
According to Andrew Whitworth, former offensive lineman,
the urgency this offseason is at an all-time high.
This is the most critical year in this era under Joe Burrow, in my opinion.
It's trading for Max Crosby and something that could be, man, really needing picks.
And a lot, obviously, that'd be a lot of capital trying to figure out how to get that work.
out. But that would be the young guy, tone setter, the example for your defense every single
day. Pay him the money. Spend the draft pick. The 10th pick. Send it if you have to. Put the example
in the room. Yeah, I think it is. Three straight years. You know, as much as we say it's a
quarterback league, Burroughs a top three quarterback. He can't make the playoffs. So it always
goes back to what's upstairs. When George Steinbrenner on the Yankees, World Series tie.
titles. Steinbrenner's kids take it over, more about profits. It's the same city, it's the same
brand, it's the same family. Dad cared more. Dad was more obsessed with baseball. So this is,
this is, Jason, we've been on this for two years. I think Burrow misses the playoffs again,
and he's moving. I think he's just going to say, I'm out. And I think he'll just say,
call the Rams, I'm going to McBay, call the Niners, I'm going eventually to Sanford. It'll be
one of these Kevin O'Connell, McVeigh, high-end offensive coaches.
But the fact that Cincinnati, you think Cincinnati would be embarrassed by it,
that you have Joe Burrow and couldn't get into the playoffs,
that would be kind of embarrassing.
It speaks upstairs not to Burrough.
Well, to defend Burrow just a little bit,
and I joke about Glassboro, Glass Joe.
Colin, in the NBA, one guy can change your whole fortune to the franchise
because he plays both sides, offense, defense.
He's on the court the entire time.
Burroughs only on offense.
He can't fix that defense.
I don't know how you fix it quickly, do you?
I mean, other than getting off T. Higgins or Chase?
Well, how you fix the defense?
All the top GMs in this league always find the money.
Isn't it amazing?
Howie Roseman?
There's a story yesterday.
They're in on Max Crosby.
How?
I mean, the Rams.
They just found room despite paying Matt Stafford,
despite paying Rob Havenstein.
And they just found a way.
to go get Devante Adams and Nate Landman
and the best GMs find money in the sofa.
They figure out a way to provide opportunities
when they've got a star quarterback.
Like the Rams know, we've got a couple more years of Stafford.
We have to load this thing up.
We've got to take swings.
You do get that Joe Burrow off multiple injuries
is one injury away, one big injury away from,
we've got to draft another quarterback.
You think they would get the urgency of it.
And they apparently in Cincinnati don't.
Well, it also, the Rams,
Puka's on the rookie deal still.
So he's cheap.
And he's a mid-round pick.
So is Jared verse, absolutely.
Yeah, so they hit on their draft picks.
Chase, you had your window, you got to a Super Bowl.
Now he's very expensive.
T. Higgins, very expensive.
And Joe Burroughs got his huge contract.
So, like, you can't, I mean,
the Bengals are in a bad spot.
I like your idea of trading Joe Burrow.
My only concern is, Colin,
if we're being honest, like all this talk about trading borough,
We'll get to Tua, Kyler Murray, C.J. Strauss. It's fun. But this stuff never happens, really, in the NFL. It just doesn't.
We get one like every five years, maybe. Well, no, no. I mean, we've had star quarterbacks leave for, I mean, Matt Stafford to the Rams.
Yep, that was one. Quarterback swap, really, golf for staff.
But, I mean, we've had some big moves. I mean, Sam Darnold shows up with the Seahawks.
Well, I mean, he was off an MVP-level season. We have Kirk Cousins go to Atlanta.
Carson Palmer did it once in his career.
I think it's
Joe Burroughs at a different level than Sam Darnold was.
Come on.
It's rare.
I would agree Stafford for golf worked.
But, I mean, I would love to see more player movement.
Like the NBA.
The NBA was incredible when all these guys were switching teams.
I want to see it in the NFL.
I mean, I don't want to see Burrow buried in Cincinnati.
I know.
If they don't win the division, that's, come on.
All right, let's move on to the Dolphins, Colin.
Another quarterback situation is percolating there with Tua.
Obviously, they dump.
Tyreek Hill, Bradley Chubb, shed about 30 million in cap space, but we're going to see what happens with Tua.
Apparently, there's a report.
Now, again, this is just speculation.
Stephen Ross is willing to pay some of Tua's salary to facilitate a trade.
That's spicy.
If they cut him pre-June 1, $99 million in the 2026 in Dead Cap, which as we saw with other teams,
hey, take the dead cap hit and move on.
If they cut him after June 1, the dead cap gets split between 26 and 27, which is in the weeds.
If they trade him, 54 million fully guaranteed.
Woo!
I've got a team for tomorrow.
We're doing headlines early because somebody's taking a vacation.
Do you want to hear my Tua potential landing spot?
Yeah, I do.
NFC.
Minnesota.
Wow.
That's good.
Dome?
Dome?
I think Dome.
Eighth.
He could push J.J. McCarthy.
I don't think it's the worst landing spot.
Now, listen, I like McCarthy, but let's just say confidence is eroding.
You're going to get nine games minimum in a dome, eight in Minnesota, one in Detroit.
So nine games in a dome.
You'll hopefully get either the Bears or the Packers Road game.
September.
One of those is before Thanksgiving.
Yeah.
And by the way, the AFC, all the best teams are in cold weather.
That's not true in the NFC.
So the Rams are very good.
That's decent weather.
You know, lions are good. You're playing in a dome.
So San Francisco's not, you know, awful weather.
How desperate is Miami, Collum? Will they attach a pick to Tua to get off that contract?
God, they need draft capital. They have to rebuild their own line.
Well, they're tanking. That's obvious. I don't care what anybody says. They're tanking.
Okay. They're starting, I mean, Quinn Ewers is going to be their starter. If they move to a, no backup.
There's no, no first round quarterback after Mendoza. That's a tank job.
they're chasing Arch Banning just like the Jets are.
Final story, Daniel Jeremiah.
Mock draft 2.0 touched on it in the first hour.
His big move after Mendoza, of course,
he has David Bailey, the edge rusher from Texas Tech,
who I like a lot.
That guy's an animal.
He moved up from seven to two to go to the Jets.
He moved Arvel Reese from Ohio State.
I do think Reese is very good,
but he's not going to go second.
He's one of these guys who was a linebacker
and transition to edge.
At times, he's looked incredible.
He could be awesome.
I think it's a little Richard, too.
We'll see about Bailey.
I'm going to be honest with you.
If this draft is true, I love the first 10 players.
Well, Carnell Tate to the Giants?
What is that about?
I wouldn't do that if I was the Giants, but I love Carnell Tate.
I think he's a great prospect.
I'm telling you, the top of this draft is outstanding.
I don't know much about the safety from Toledo outside of what I've, you know,
know, red. Yeah, that's a name I did not expect to see it. But I'm telling you, the top of this
draft, there are, usually you can spot a bust. David Bailey is not busting. Tate,
Lemon, love, Caleb Downs. Mackay Lemon at eight? You, you know him as well as anybody,
being a USC guy. Dude, he is going to walk into this league. He is the closest thing to
J.S.N. Interesting. So Tyler Shuck could have Mackay Lemon and Chris Olive, who was very good
last year for my fantasy team.
The only other one, Jeremiah Love, I just don't see it nine to KC.
A lot of people have that.
I don't.
I love him.
You know what I don't like?
They're offensive line.
Colin, they're missing guy.
The offensive line's not good.
Why are you drafted a superstar?
I think this kid, I've said this before.
There's about one running back every year or every other year that is worth the first
round pick.
Love is absolutely worth the first round pick.
Okay, we're not disputing that.
Doesn't Kansas City have more?
pressing needs than a running back?
They need a running back. They need
offensive line. They need a rush end.
That's my take.
I mean, their secondary is not good
at all. Well, it's a very good O-line
and pass-rushing
draft. Can you get that in the second,
third, fourth, fifth, sixth round? You're not getting
you're not getting love
anywhere other than Notre Dame
early in the draft. This is not a good running back
draft. There is one star
running back in the draft. There's six
to eight good pass rushers.
There's seven to ten offensive tackles.
Five of them can play as rookies.
Another five are probably developmental.
It's not a good tight end draft.
It's not a good running back draft.
So if the first or second running back is taken and tight ends taken,
those are the guys that can play next year.
Caleb Downs.
I love it.
That's my guy to move up higher than 10.
I'm just, you watch that Seattle defense in the Super Bowl, Colin?
Those guys can play all over the place.
Caleb Downs is one of those dudes.
J-Mack with the news.
Well, that's the news.
And thanks for stopping by.
The Hurd-Ly News.
Urban Meyer.
Yeah, it's the 2014 playoff, which has been talked about by the Big Ten,
I don't know what the magic number is,
but I will say Miami, the Hurricanes almost didn't get in.
And there's an argument they were the best team in the country,
and it took a heroic fourth-down plays by Mendoza to beat him.
So, and why is that?
Because now with the NIL and the transfer portal, you have 15 new players coming into these teams,
and it takes much longer for chemistry to develop.
That's why I always say, don't watch college basketball until like, you know, late January.
If you watch college basketball in October and November, where these teams have six new players,
you can be totally fooled.
You'll think, oh, Kansas is terrible.
And then you look up two months later and you're like, oh, Kansas is.
is actually pretty good.
You get a totally different team because you got all these new players coming in the transfer portal
in the NIL.
So college football now is very much like the NFL.
The Patriots were awful in September.
End up in the Super Bowl.
Like that used to be college football.
We knew by the second week of October, these three teams can win the Natty.
Maybe there was a fourth.
I watched Miami mid-season.
I'm like, yeah, they're not right yet.
They got to run the ball more.
They're too relying on Carson Beck.
I mean, go look at Mendoza for Indiana.
Much different quarterback late in the year than he was the first three games.
So I think an expanded playoff, I didn't used to think it was important,
but there's always an unintended benefit or consequence of dramatic moves.
Transfer Portal and NIL are dramatic moves.
It's added a lot more players to the table,
and you really don't know what a team is until you get to like Thanksgiving.
And then you're like, okay,
the new right tackle, the new corner, the new receiver,
the now, everything's meshing now.
Miami lost to Louisville and SMU.
And at the end of the year, there's an argument,
as Urban Meyer said, best team in college football.
Nobody thought that in October.
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You know, people could defend Rob Polenka, who I don't care either way whether they want to defend him,
but people say, well, he did get LeBron to L.A.
First of all, give LeBron credit.
That was he and Rich Paul.
They wanted to expand his net worth, his reach from Cleveland to L.A.,
where you have 150 times the size of an economy.
also Magic Johnson reportedly was pivotal in that when LeBron met with Magic Johnson.
That wasn't a Rob Polincom move.
Well, what about Anthony Davis?
That really wasn't him either.
That was LeBron and Rich Paul realizing AD's great.
LeBron doesn't like to defend the rim and rebound.
LeBron likes he likes a rim defender so he can get out up on the fast break and get the offense going.
LeBron doesn't want to be muddying around the basket and drawing contact.
I mean, he just, that's not his game.
Like LeBron wants to get out on the break.
He loves rim defenders.
AD was that guy.
That's not Rob Polica.
Well, what about Luca?
Well, we've heard multiple stories that Nico Harrison was shopping Luca.
It was the Mavericks owners were tired of Luca's injuries, wasn't in shape, complaining to the officials.
They were shopping him.
So the LeBron A.D. Luca acquisitions, the big stuff, a lot of that just based on the Lakers'
Brand and Magic Johnson and the television exposure of the organizations been able to build for
years and years.
The small stuff, the minutia, the stuff that Oklahoma City and San Antonio and Detroit
have been great at, Polink has struggled with.
He's missed a ton.
So, in my take on, my take is the NBA only lets you now build your team through drafting
and developing.
So, you know, I mean, you can go.
big game hunting with Janus.
I'm not opposed to that because I do think if you have Luca, then in Austin Reeves, you
need a rim protector in Janus.
But when I read a story by Dave McMinneman, who's a credible reporter, and one of
the sources says, well, if LeBron wants to come back, he can come back.
What?
What?
That's not the answer.
That is not the answer.
So, and I'll say it again, Luca is aging quickly.
He is not Brady and LeBron.
He is not Steph Curry.
He's aging like Hardin and he's aging like Mellow.
You're going to get, he's 27 in about a week.
You're two years away from looking up at 29 and he's no longer in the MBB conversation.
You go look at James Harden.
He's winning those awards 30 and under.
Carmelo Anthony, 28 and under.
So Luca's more fluctuating weight, fluctuating on defensive effort.
Time is a waste.
Here is Nick Wright earlier on LeBron's future after this season.
I do not believe LeBron James is retiring, and I do not believe LeBron James will be a Laker next year.
I think wherever the final chapter is going to be will be somewhere else.
It is a basketball crime that you had LeBron James on your roster, who Luca modeled his game after,
and the types of players that you need to have around an older LeBron James to succeed
are the exact types of players you need to have around Lucca Dantzich
and they trade for Lucanacic and we're more than a year removed and they're like,
man, we sure don't have the right types of guys around him.
Yeah, it's not real complicated.
If Luke is your star, like Steph Curry, you got us around him with size.
If you go to the Dallas team that got to the finals, it was big.
it was Luca and size.
And that's how you have to build around it.
So if you're going to resign LeBron,
LeBron's not going to defend the rim.
LeBron's not a twitchy wing defender.
LeBron's not a knockdown catch-and-chute-three guys.
You need about four of those guys.
Like Jason Tim said yesterday, they need three new starters.
All of them good defensively.
You're not getting them and resigning LeBron James.
Colin, hot take on the LeBron Luca article
from McManaman who I know well
I played hoops with him and the All-Star.
He's very capable, very credible reporter.
He's great.
The Lakers are reading the Cold War
between LeBron and Luca.
There's some coded words being used.
LeBron's like, we're not a championship team.
Luca came out this past weekend.
We're a very, very dangerous team.
There's some stuff going on back and forth.
I think the Lakers wanted to take down the temperature
with this whole, LeBron, you're welcome to come back.
Everybody take a deep breath.
Okay, let's finish the season.
You know they've only played 10 games this year?
with LeBron, Luca, and Reeves.
I think take down the temperature.
Let's see what happens.
And let's go into the off season.
Let's not try to settle the off season in freaking February.
It's not going to happen.
That's a good take.
I think they're going to be fine.
By the paper clips on Friday.
I'd invite you, but you're going to be, where are you going to be again?
Good job today, Nick Wright, Urban Meyer.
Good stuff.
We'll see you tomorrow.
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