The Herd with Colin Cowherd - The Herd - Hour 3 - Week 10

Episode Date: November 13, 2023

The state of Bill Belichick and the Patriots isn't pretty Thoughts on week 10 of the NFL   Guest: Mark Sanchez    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Be sure to catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio in noon to 3 Eastern, 9 a.m. to noon Pacific. Find your local station for the herd at Fox SportsRedio.com or stream us live every day on the IHart Radio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. Now let's get this party started. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. So in New England, believe it or not, Belichick has the worst record in the AFC. So how do you explain that? Well, I do think they call it a brain drain or a talent drain in the Midwest for years.

The Big Ten graduates would go to the coast and certain states would struggle with that. I think Belichick lost the best quarterback ever, the best offensive line coach ever, a top offensive coordinator, and maybe the best tight end ever in a two-year stretch. He's never recovered. It was a brain drain, a talent drain on the opposite side of his expertise. And now, Nick Saban, at Bama, loses a left tackle and a quarterback and a receiver and a coordinator every few years too. But he can recruit a quarterback every two years, every year at Alabama, right, to get it right. So New England needs a new quarterback, and they'll go draft one, I would imagine.

But the second thing is they need a new pair of eyes. They need a new voice. Stop hiring retreads and people you quote trust. Trust more people. Nick Saban could barely tolerate Nick Kiffin, but Kiffin gave him a different perspective on the sport. Belichick is stuck in the past, and this just, he's got his money, his rings, and his legacy. He's not evolving.

Saban acknowledged, I don't have all the answers. I'm going to hire people that may make me a little uncomfortable or that I don't always agree with. Belichick, to me, needs a new quarterback and a new set of eyes. And if he's not willing to do it, I would probably bow out. but here's Bill on the current state of the Pats. We just got back from Germany here, so we'll work through everything. We'll look at everything all the way across the board. Not specifically in one position.

Just try to look at everything. Do the best we can here going forward. New quarterback's the first thing. New set of eyes in the building. A few pair of those. The second thing. J-Mac with the news. No, no, no, no.

Turn on the news. This is the herd line. News. Probably should apologize for skewing negative earlier in the show. We got some positive news here, Kyle. Positive. Let's start with Josh Dobbs. You know his nickname is the Pastronaut.

I think it's one of the great nicknames in the NFL right now. He was unbelievable on Sunday for the Vikings. Listen, I'm the idiot who loved the Saints this week. Thought, oh, Dobbs will come back to Earth. I mean, Dobbs was incredible. You texted me, and I hadn't looked at the score. I was coaching girls soccer at the time.

It was 24 to 3. Dobbs was on fire. Derek Carr was Remember when he was in Arizona and they beat the Cowboys, and we said, I'm probably not going to build my franchise around him. But you could start him for six games. He can win three. It's the Teddy Bridgewater. When you get these backup guys and you're like, a backup quarterback should be,

we're out, are starters out for four weeks? Can you win two of them? The franchise guy needs to win three of them. But Teddy Bridgewater is an all-time great backup. Josh Dobbs is probably the best backup in the league. They have tremendous, if you don't think they matter, week 10 in the NFL, look at the starting quarterbacks. That's a seven-figure gig for a long time, and he is super bright, figures it out, everybody

loves him. If you play them eight straight starts, you start to see some limitations. Which is what happened in Arizona, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll say this about Minnesota. Five straight wins without Justin Jefferson. Let that sink in for a moment. Did I not suggest the trade? There is, I don't know if you're going to get the Hershal Walker Hall.

We'll see. But O'Connell seems to be the kind of guy who can, that's Mark Sanchez's dude. He can scheme up any receiver. Anybody's getting open. I'm just telling you. So they've got the left tackle. They've got two receivers. They've got a tight end they like and an edge rock.

Oh, Hawkinson. Did I not say this a couple weeks ago? What is the one position that college football furnishes the NFL annually with about 20 dudes that can play? Tank Bell, third round. Justin Jefferson, if I could move him and I could get two firsts. Well, I don't know if you... Let me tell you something. What would New England do with Justin Jefferson?

Yeah, do with Judge New England? Say, hey, we're drafted in Drake May and we're going to bring on Justin Jefferson. We're starting over. We'll give you a second and two firsts or second and a first. I'm just saying Minnesota is proving the coach. O'Connell, man, he's got to be a coach of the year candidate. I don't know if he's going to win it, but he's certainly got to be in the main. Dan Campbell probably going to win.

Next up, let's go to Dan Campbell's Lions offense, man. What a performance. And the numbers were staggering over seven yards of play, 500 yards. This team is a juggernaut. And Brandon Staley had no chance of stopping him. I like how Dan Campbell was aggressive. They went for it on fourth down twice on the opening drive. Oh, no, you know.

And they were four for five for the game. Just awesome stuff, including they could have kicked the field goal to go up six late, which is what you never do. And they just went for it. They have a lot of ways to beat you. They have two backs I like. and they have a great O line. They can, they're tight end.

Laporte is great. They have nice weapons on the outside. They don't have a defense. Well, again, Justin Herbert made them look. They're not as bad as Herbert made them look. Are they slowing down Brock Purdy or Jalen Hertz in the playoffs? Well, because the game's going to be in Detroit. Tell me who's slowing down Jalen Hertz last year.

I mean, the Chiefs couldn't slow him down. The great quarterbacks, nobody's slowing down much. So can Detroit come out of the NFC with this defense? I think Detroit can get to the NFC championship, and then let me see where the game is and who they play. But I'm telling you, first half they ran the ball. Second half, they threw the ball. There's a lot to like about this team.

You don't have to be a great defensive team to win the Super Bowl. The Chiefs were not a great defensive team last year. What you can't be is terrible anywhere, because NFL coaching will find it. I wish they were better at corner. But I wish everybody not called the Jets and the NFL was better at corner. You could rule the tape. I said the Lions got to get a cornerback. I thought the Steelers needed one.

And they got Sutton. from Pittsburgh? I mean, at the deadline. Like, he's been a disappointment. Like, Pittsburgh doesn't have a cornerback. I mean, Jordan Love looked playable yesterday. Like, I don't know. I think the quarterback's gonna hold it back.

Anyways, final story, Broncos bills. Tonight on Monday night football. Why do you say it with so much negativity? What do you mean? Well, you're like negative. I get Josh Allen Russell Wilson. Well, what's so negative about that? Is this a great?

Like, first of all, I had a rough weekend except for the Cowboys who saved the day. But I'm on the Broncos getting seven. And I know they're not going to come through tonight. I'm on the Broncos. Why do you say that? I just know it's not happening, man. You've seen Josh Allen enough to know Dick and just drop the hammer on a team and boom, that's 42-10.

Time out. They have lost their best linebacker, their best safety, their best corner. They're not the same defense. And Denver, now I'm not saying Denver's going to win it. I picked him to win it. I'll probably be wrong. But I will say this. Wait, win or cover?

I think I picked him to win. Wow. Now, I'm sure I'm wrong on this because at the time I had been in cough medicine and I was pray a loopie. But Friday, I basically had a sleeping pill. I forgot my phone. It was a mess Friday. But the point is...

I couldn't tell. You know, it's either good America. But the point is, the point is, Buffalo's not the same team. They don't throw the ball down the field anymore over the top. That's not the top. That's not the... You can't lose your best corner, best linebacker, best safety, and a defensive tackle that's good and say,

I don't know what's wrong with the coaching. It's just not the same players. McDermott's good. They lose this game. I think McDermott, you know, DefCon. They're not in Buffalo. No way. They'll never.

It's very small market. No, like Pittsburgh, Buffalo, Green Bay. They all wear dockers. They're nice people. They don't fire. If they lose tonight, like not making the playoffs is certainly in play for Buffalo. Pittsburgh's six and three now. Bengals are five and four.

AFC's barred. AFC North is insane. J-Mack with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Herd Lye News. Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd. in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific

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And all the games were great, except the game I thought was going to be great. San Francisco Jacksonville. You got a great one. I want to talk about Seattle commanders real quick. Yeah. So my take is Washington's going to hire an offensive coach. I think Sam Howell deserves another year. There's something there with him. What is it?

There's absolutely something there. I think he's decisive. I think because he has so much time and experience with the position and reps in college, you can tell he's a little bit accelerated as, and I still, I know he's not a rookie, but he's in his 11th start. so you kind of consider him a rookie, right, right, right. So you just judge him by that lens, number one. And for his position, he knows when a guy's open, when he's not, and when to get out of trouble.

Yeah. Is he making, you know, those next level kind of decisions at the line of scrimmage consistently? I wouldn't say that, meaning getting us out of bad place, consistently, feeling pressure, knowing when it's all out pressure, and inviting that pressure, beating it with a throw because he knew it or is he reacting. I think he's more of reacting right now. I think he can get to a point where the Mahomes, the Brady's, the breeze is, it's, oh, wait a second. You guys are going to pressure me? Okay, watch this. Hey, tight end, come block this guy. Boom. Touchdown, done. Don't ever do that. You're almost looking at the de-coordinator. Like,

don't do that anymore. Right. You know what I mean? You're going to get embarrassed out here. He's not there, obviously, not yet. But he has this ability off script. And you've seen it with Mahomes. I'm not comparing the two players talent-wise. I'm just saying in that offense, because it's a West Coast-based system, it's timing, it's your footwork, all that. There's a specific time clock. And when that time clock is up based on the rush or the coverage, boom, I got to move.

And these guys are masters of scramble drill. They work at a ton in the West Coast system. What do we do? So it's not just streetball. These guys know they have an idea. If the quarterback runs this way, we have an idea of where our routes break off to. And so you can tell they've done plenty of that. But he's still growing.

He's still maturing. And that was a really tough defense he played against yesterday with multiple looks. You could tell he was spinning a little bit. When one or two was open, boom, the kid's money. And that's all you can ask for at his stage of growth. When things got a little muddy, he had to move around quite a bit instead of staying that pocket, hanging that pocket. But you're proud of his effort.

I mean, he essentially won the game. You know what I mean? The defense tightens down at the end. Yes. And it's over. And he did that in a tough environment. First drive of the game, scrambles, throws a huge. play up the sideline to Robinson, who's a checkdown and afterthought.

Like, he's really good on the move. So there's something to him. He's still developing, but he played incredible yesterday. Okay, I want to go CJ Stroud. So Cincinnati, if Boy doesn't drop the ball in the end zone, maybe Cincinnati wins. So I thought Burrow and Herbert played brilliant games, but you know, you don't have to win every week for me. Doesn't always work. But you've got to show me some things. You can't gag Mac Jones. You can't just make that can't make that play. C.J. Stroud is fascinating because you well know this. There is a big difference between playing with a lead, playing with a run game,

playing at home, or playing Burrow on the road trailing. His trailing numbers are like Brady and his prime. Is it innate? Is it coaching? What is it? It's way better than it should be. I think some of that is personality-based. I think some of that is his innate ability that you've mentioned. but some guys just have this ability to turn it on when the stakes get higher.

When the pressure rises, their heartbeat is just steady. And then they turn into this mode of just, okay, fourth quarter time. Like, whew, let's pull up the two socks. Let's rock. You know, like, it's time to go. And they don't do anything different. It's just they hone into their mechanics. Their footwork solid.

Their eyes are so clean and so steady. They're not bouncing around. You can watch their eye placement and the way their helmet moves. We talk about watching the stripe on guys' helmet. When it's crunch time, the really good ones are steady. And it's just boom, boom, boom, slight movement and deliver the football. He's having the kind of rookie year that we haven't seen since Dak Prescott. Their numbers are almost identical, even when trailing.

Dak had a better completion percentage. But C.J. Stroud's throwing the ball probably what, I think he has like 38 more attempts or something on the year throws-wise. So through nine starts, their rookie years, he has 38 more attempts. That's a whole game. 38 attempts, that's like almost a game. The Cowboys also had the best old line in the league.

Exactly right. So this guy's moving around more. And the same thing. For Dak, he was 8 and 1 through 9 games because of the complete team around him. C.J. Stroud is, you know, they lost four or five games, whatever they are. Yeah.

So this is a really good comp on where he can go. But you saw in those crunch times, Dax rookie year. He made plays to win those games, to ice those games. He had to hit big throws, and C.J. Stroud is doing the same thing. He gets streaky. He gets hot. And at the end, he knows when it's crunch time and knows when to deliver.

I said this. I have defended coaches on the hot seat. I have defended the Sarks, the Lane Kiffins. I don't want to see coaches get whacked. But there is a difference. One of the first things I look for is, do you own your side of the ball? Lincoln Riley's offense is fine. They can't get the defense right.

There's promise there. Nick Saban very early at Bama lost to Louisiana Monroe. But the defense very quickly got good. The Chargers defense, I don't see improvement. I see players like Derwin James still make mistakes. I'm like, Derwin, you're better than that. I don't see improvement in players. They have three pass rushers.

You do get to a point with me is I'm watching teams that are like the Jets that are toxic at quarterback, interim coaches and the Raiders. This team is too good to be four and five. I'm not trying to run guys out, but Mark, at some point, don't you lose players? Well, I think the issue was they started to feel a little better after their last two games, right? And they played the Bears and they played the Jets in prime time. And both of those offenses are, you know, bottom of the league. So this defense was looking and feeling a lot better.

Now, you go toe to toe with an NFC North team that's pretty strong in the Lions. I mean, that's a real offense, and they're going to keep coming at you, where eventually you overpower the Bears and the Jets this year on offense, right? They don't have the horses to run the full race, the full length of 60 minutes of that game, and you just overpower them. But these guys kept coming back, and it went back and forth, back and forth. Those are the kind of games where it's not just a scheme, it's one play, it's a tip ball, it's a turnover, but this one turned into almost who's going to have the football last.

Oh, yeah. And, you know, holding them to consecutive field goals is how you win those games. Flipping the field position to milk the clock is how you win those games. And so if it's just going to be an all-out scoring fest, it makes it really hard. It puts pressure on everybody, but that's where somebody's got to make a play. And you have the playmakers to do it, right? It's Joey Bosa. It's, you know, Khalil Mack.

Derwin James. You got to make a play. Kendricks. We brought you over big free agent signing. you got to make a play. Somebody affect this game and play that complimentary football, flip the field and field position, get me a turnover something. So, you know, it's not like they were just completely out of position. It's not like, you know, the defenses they're calling are just crazy defenses that don't make sense and the team walks up and down the field on them. They're in position. They just got to make some plays.

It's an execution thing. And, you know, they go to Green Bay this week. We have that game. That's another chance for them. An offense that's kind of middle of the road, you know, might be struggling. a little bit, younger quarterback, trying to figure it out in his first season starting with Jordan Love, there's a perfect opportunity for this defense to get back on track and align them for the rest of the season. But bottom line is they got to come up with some stops. They got to come up with some turnovers. Yeah. There's so many different things to talk about today. I don't want to beat up on Zach Wilson, but I said this is the kind of the difference. There's two or three, forget traits, aren't moving, all that stuff. There are two or three. There are two or three

things to me that sort of define you got a franchise guy one of them is can you play trailing that's really hard it's and everybody's pin in their ears back herbert yesterday trailing tied trailing tie you know cj stroud joe burrow those are great quarterbacks the other thing is and i and i know people will push back on this but when you do something in life matters they say the first eight minutes of a date she makes her mind up you can't be bad in the first eight minutes you can't a lot more sense now. Okay. Go ahead.

So when it's Mac or Zach, Mac Jones, Zach, it's, I need you late. I don't mind C.J. Stroud, I throw a pick in the third quarter. Boy, he's dialed in late. That's my thing on Zach, the timing. Okay. My only thing is to keep this as fair as I can and not just apologize for quarterbacks, but to keep it an even playing field, the expectation for C.J. Stroud is so much lower than Zach than Mac Jones because of their experience.

So I think Mac Jones and Zach Wilson are on a similar plane of, okay, you guys should be able to win games, you should be able to get us out of problems. All the things I said about Sam Howell, not being able to quite do yet because you're still working your way through it. Same with CJ Stroud.

Those guys kind of get a pass right now. Right, right. And you need more time on task. But these guys are in that mode of third, fourth year starting. It's like, okay, you got to do something for me. The problem is their margin for error. The margin for error in general in the NFL is very small.

But when you're the Eagles, when you're the Chiefs, when you are the San Francisco 49ers, your margin's a little bit larger. You can get away with the Brock Purdy interception. Cleveland can take you down to the wire with a couple interceptions from Brock Purdy and turnovers. The Jets and the Patriots are not built to play that way. You cannot give the ball up, no matter what. Like, it just can't happen.

Right. Or it's so deflating to this team because they don't. have guys that can overcome that right now. They don't have this roster that's just insanely good and hey, man, we'll go figure it out. You know what I mean? And that's no knock on them. That's just the way they're built.

They have a formula to win and they can't give it up. So the other thing I will say about Zach, the one thing in his defense yesterday, he plays in Vegas last night. Yeah. I mean, it looked like a Cirque de Soleil show, some of these throws. Jumping up, throwing, I mean, these throws are elite.

Elite. There aren't meant. He looks a little bit more like Aaron Rogers every game. Yeah. Okay, and it's crazy because he does this little jump throw, and he's starting to hone it in. He really is. But then you miss on a, on a basic, basic read in Spillane just jumps at 41, the linebacker just jumps it right underneath where you're throwing. So in the West Coast offense, there's your first wide vision. That's the clock. That's your alignment. That's where all the defensive players line up. That's your first read. That's the guy you're looking at. Your second wide vision is like this peripheral vision that they talk about. And that's how you avoid tipped balls and interception. And it's Zach's second wide vision. So I know who you're reading. I know who my target is. But what am I feeling out here?

I'm looking at the camera calling, but I can see you right here. And I can see your momentum. Boom. And I hold up on the throat and I dump it underneath. That's to me where Zach still has to graduate. That's second wide vision. That's like West Coast speak.

Yeah. But you know the ones who have it. It helps you eliminate interceptions. And when it happens late like that, I mean, it was just a crushing blow. Even though they don't get points out of it. The defense stopped them. That's right.

They gave you the ball back. So that was really too bad Because of some of those, I mean, even the last throw of the game, most of the league can't get a quarterback to get that throw off, let alone land it where he did. I mean, he gives him a chance. He's given him a chance in some ways. And then in other ways, you know, a couple of bonehead mistakes.

So it's hard, it's frustrating. And you can feel it every time Robert Saw, poor guy gets in front of the podium. I mean, you're just like, oh, gosh, like you feel for the guy. Yeah. Look at J. Mack. Look at that smile on your face. What, no. I tried to tell.

him, Zach was not the problem last night. But I always say, he wasn't the problem. But you've got to be the solution. Quarterbacks have to be the solution of problems. Sanchez talked to me. Help me out here. I mean, that's a tough one. I mean, they were up against it. You know what your offense is.

I just don't, you know, you got to do a deep dive on their red zone because I don't know why they're not scoring. It's, you know. They have one touchdown in 21 quarters. That's what I'm, but it's, yeah, you get down there. They move the ball between the 20s. They have some of these explosive plays that I mentioned. You know, the ball he threw to Lazard coming across the field when he's kind of rolling left and jumps and

throws it. Like, some of these throws are insane. Like, you can't even do it with just you and the receiver on the field. A lot of guys would miss that throw with nobody else on the field. But let alone him getting thrown to the turf right after he cuts his ball loose. I mean, those throws are incredible. So it's, I'd almost take a little bit less of that and a little more like dialed in in the fourth quarter or in the red zone. You know what I mean?

If you could, you know, fill one bucket and empty out another bucket. It's, you know, that's not the way it works. All right. Some tape are experts. Oh, we got good tape, coach. Great tape. Elite tape. This guy brings elite tape.

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Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment, and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show is. isn't just a podcast. It's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told,

and for people who are chasing something bigger. So if you've ever supported me, or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be. Listen to The Clifford Show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. Do you remember when Diana Ross Double-Tap Little Kim's boobs at the VMAs? Or when Kanye said that George Bush didn't like black people. I know what you're thinking. What the hell does George Bush got to do with Little Kim?

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I mean at this point Mark this is the second episode where we've discussed crack So I'm starting to see that there's a through line We also have AIDS on the table right now So Thank you finishing that sentence And yes

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Apple Podcasts Or wherever you get your podcast All right, Mark Sanchez, Fox Sports this week. He's got the Chargers at the Packers Week 11 Sunday. You got some games, dude. Seattle, Washington ended up being... That was fun. It was really good.

It was a dud in the first half. Seattle squandered an opportunity. Right before halftime, they got the grounding call. And then there was only like seven seconds, no time out. So it was a 10-second runoff, ended the half, and they were trying to kick a field goal. Lost an opportunity there. It came back and won it. Fun fourth quarter.

Yeah. So here we go. Brock Purdy. It is interesting. How valuable Debo is. Now, he's not a top five receiver. And Trent Williams. Both of them back makes a huge difference. So this team was finally healthy. Yeah. After a buy. It was. Schemed up a defense. My God. I mean, this is good stuff. I'm sorry. I'm getting, I'm getting too easy. Go ahead. Lead me up. So there's been this big discussion on Brock Purdy. Go to the tape. What do you see? Okay, so one of the cool things about the attack and him understanding the plan of attack. They use 22 personnel quite a bit.

Okay, the league average, 22 personnel, what is that? Two backs, two tight ends and one receiver. Okay, they're doing it this game a ton against Jacksonville with IUC. The league average for 22 personnel is like 2.2%. So defense is naturally, they don't practice against it quite a bit very much. They don't see it very much in games. so it's low on the totem pole of priority, right? On your priority list, you're going to see sub,

you're going to see three wide receivers, you're going to see two tight ends, boom. But 22, that's low. You're going to run the ball out of that. You're going to maybe have a couple quick play actions, potentially on the goal line, short yardage situations. That's 22. But not San Francisco 22.

They can attack out of 22. They'll jump into empty formations. They'll split you out. And they know you have probably two calls out of 22. You're going to play single high man or single high zone. Okay. What do we do with that? Well, watch this first clip.

Roll the tape. They're going to start in eye formation, and they're going to use this shift. It's 22 personnel, two backs, two tight ends, one receiver, and they're going to explode. That's what we used to call this motion. Explode to empty left is the call. Okay, these guys all start moving around. Well, the defense is forced to communicate, and they're like, oh boy. Okay, their auto check is single safety.

All right, guys, we're going to drop eight. That's our empty check, and we're going to zone it all off. Just zone it off, and hopefully we don't get. hit here. So what does Brock do? He knows it's single high. Just like coach has told me all week, I'm going to work my progression. Where's Ayuk? He's number one. I'm getting my eyes to him. He's got three guys around him because they're dropping eight. Now he's going to find this backside safety and this backside corner immediately when he brings his eyes back. And he's got two verticals working up the field. And look at how quickly he assesses that midpoint corner. That corner's

job is the deep third. He has to cut both of those guys in half and potentially make a play on both. there's three defenders triangulating this target and he's got to throw it over this wall right here. We use the soccer graphic on that, dude. We're getting wild here. And then he drops a dime to kiddle like that. The fact that he can go one and then two A, 2B to those seams back down to McCaffrey underneath,

I mean, you can tell this dude is all over this play. So once again, explode, right? You start in your eye formation. Here comes a run. Here comes a quick, easy pass. Oh, boy. Now he's in the shotgun. Everybody's, okay, who's who.

figure it out let's drop eight play single high zone right so you try and zone it off and you're good with all these underneath throws right you're good with your three deep zone boom brock purdy dissect it all the way watch the stripe on his helmet he's looking to the right iuk where's my number one target no he has the ability to progress he has the time to progress you see all those defenders around i yuk and once again that safety's looking where his eyes are he moves the safety finds the backside corner and cuts it loose He's processing it and cutting the ball loose at the same time. That's good stuff. But it's the attack that I love.

Yeah, and we've said this with Brock. He makes too many good throws not to be good. You can talk about system and players. That's a big boy throw. 100%. And watch this next play. This is a counter again off of what they do all the time. It has a man alert.

So we saw 22 personnel versus single high zone on that last one. We're going to see 22 personnel single high man to man. And you'll see how they pass it off. Roll the clip. Here comes basically 22 again. Now they're in bunch. There's your two backs. There's a bunch to the left.

There's two tight ends and a receiver to the right of the screen off the screen. Kittl's going to use crossball motion. You see Purdy move them over. And now watch all the communication by these second level defenders. Instead of running a guy with them, they pass it off. And it becomes man to man right away. Look at their demeanor. They line up right over their target.

So what does Kittle do? He helps his right tackle right here. he's going to give presence on the end, on this Russia, and that's going to come up later in the clip. He also has to miss a beat so he can assess where he wants to go on this option route, that they run all the time. Inside, outside. Well, this is for man to man. This is an alert. Just widen and run by him.

He thinks you're going to break to the out. He's playing for you to break to the out. So go buy him. And here comes Iyuk, his number one read. Brock looks him down the middle, feels the safety, gives a quick pump inside. I would say unnecessary. I think he's adding a little more sizzle that he needs to. But I love it for my clips.

and what does he do? He gets his ball off because Kittle gave that presence. Look at this throw is almost affected at the very last second. But because Kittle knew he had to miss a beat on his option because on option routes, you have choices. You want them to declare on defense. So they tell you miss a beat and you wait half a second and then go. So while he's missing that beat, he gives presence to the end,

helping his tackle, knowing that guy doesn't want to play Red Rover and catch rushers all day long. I mean, this whole thing fits together. You can tell these players are seeing it through the eyes of the coordinator. They're seeing it the way we watch it right now from the sky cam. Like, it all fits together for this team. And it is beautiful to watch. So he gives him the presence, goes up, makes his decision on his option route,

but knows he has that man alert, this little gold line, just run right by him. Dude, he's trying to squeeze him to the out route, force him to the out route. And he runs right by him. And Brock, just going through his progression, ready to throw to Ayuk. eyes the safety, knows he's going to jump it, gives a quick pump, and then this is just get it to the deep third near Kittle. I know he's one-on-one. I know there ain't anybody close. The next closest guy to defending Kittal is the water boy on the sidelines. Just throw it up in the air and go like Kittle, make a physical catch with the extra time he bought you at the beginning. He deserves that touchdown. That is, that is so fun and so good. That's like... How many times do you practice that during the week before you run it in the game? Oh, these guys do it all the time. They've run that. option route all the time. Remember the option route, Kelsey ran for the Chiefs in the Super Bowl? They showed more of the out cut. And boom, there goes the backer playing the outcut, squeezing them, playing them high to low and inside out, forcing him there. And he just wheels it up the

sideline. That was their counter. So people are starting to use these counter moves, but I just, back to what San Francisco does best. They get some of their best 11 on the field, and they have different options at doing that. And it's stuff you don't see. So we're going to get Van Gogh. Miller looks. It limits your coverages, your blitz packages. Brock's going to know exactly what he's going to get and easy progressions for him to dissect it. Couple minutes left, minute and a half, my friends in Seattle always lament Gino Smith. Had a huge drive. Tyler Lockett's been good for so long. I forget when he came in the league. Gino, your thoughts?

Listen, I think everything in that offense starts with the run game, like getting Kenneth Walker going. And he's one of those guys who needs more carries to really go. I think that unlocks a ton for them. I think when they get in a groove, they're really playing with pace, not like full hurry up, but a little less huddle, almost like a muddle huddle where you give quick protection call to the offensive line. Everybody sprints to the line of scrimmage, show like you're going to snap the ball, and then wait, dissect the defense, boom, make a call and go. Gino's been really efficient at that. I think he's got plenty. It's just with that defense, they're going to get them the ball back. You know what I mean? And you've got to capitalize on offense. It starts with the run game,

then comes their play action. It's a very Pete Carroll team. It's a very Pete Carroll team. And that's fine. You can win like that. They did it last year and their team's better this year. So the versatility on defense is huge too. With Jamal Adams and Julian Love,

that lets Jamal Adams play more of that linebacker position. Near the line of scrimmage, blitzing, you know, stuff that they want to do with Derwin James kind of deal. Yeah. And let Julian Love and Quondre Diggs play center field back there and handle all those pass routes down the field. Good stuff. I don't know if you count any of the Cowboys game.

They won. I mean, it was... Burying the headline. It is interesting. I mean, we don't know how many time left, but as a home team, Dallas, like a college team. Yeah.

Like the Trojans at the Coliseum. It's like, yeah, we're going to win this game. It's tough to go in there and win. And the poor Giants, man, they're going through it. Like, teams do it in phases and it's unfortunate, but when everybody on your team gets hurt, it's like, what are you going to do? So it's too bad.

Well, I mean, even the Niners without Trent Williams, it's a different looking office. They looked without Trent and without Debo, they looked a lot more pedestrian, right? I mean, and that's no knock on the other guys. It's just they're so used to playing at that strength. When you don't have those options, it limits what you can do. All right, Mark Sanchez, James Jones stopped by as well.

Mark will have the Chargers 4 and 5. They should not be 4 and 5 at the Packers, 3 and 6. Packers had a very good effort against the Steelers. Comes down to a player or two at the end. They could not make, and the Steelers did. Mark is always great seeing you. Tonight, Jay Mack and I are on the, What do we got?

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