The Herd with Colin Cowherd - The Richard Sherman Podcast - Deommodore Lenoir calls out Aaron Rodgers, says 49ers want REVENGE vs. Chiefs

Episode Date: August 17, 2024

Richard Sherman interviews San Francisco 49ers cornerback Deommodore Lenoir. Deommodore updates Richard on the 49ers training camp including the debut of new DC Nick Sorensen, the return of Talanoa Hufanga, and the vibes without Brandon Aiyuk and Trent Williams. They discuss his upcoming contract year, San Francisco's revenge game vs. Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs in Week 7 of the NFL season, Deommodore's Tom Brady encounter, how guarding Justin Jefferson in a joint practice with the Minnesota Vikings was the moment that changed his career, and what Deommodore and the 49ers defense has in store for Aaron Rodgers in their Week 1 matchup vs. the New York Jets. #volume #herdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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New balls for these. Super Bowl. Championship. That should always be the expectation. All right, man. That's going on here. Welcome back to the Richard Sherman podcast, and we got a very, very special guest,

rejoining us, Diomador-Lanour, cornerback for the San Francisco 49ers. Happy to have him. Excited to talk to him about this upcoming season, his goals, and maybe some of the games from the past season. What's up, what's up, man What up, Dima, are you? Doing good, man.

Year 4. It's flying now. Oh, yeah, yeah. Went by fast. Right, right. You're playing a lot of football. I felt like I was just coming in here trying to earn a name. Right, right.

And now it's here and everybody knows me, so it's kind of, it's a surreal feeling. You got to be. It got to be. And you got a little boy. Oh, yeah. Or a big boy. Yeah, just to have him and then, you know, with him noticing, like, you know, the stuff I do now and me playing football and now he want to play catch and stuff, you know, it's, you know, it's a great feeling, you know, a great dad feeling, you know. It is, it is. Kyle still, wait, you, you still at the house or are you at the, it's still at the hotel?

Oh, no, we, we at the house now. He let us, you know, after the first game, you know, he loosened up on us. Okay, okay, yeah, he didn't get soft in his old age. That's good, though. That's good. How are you feeling about training camp? How has it been? Oh, man, I feel like I've been having my best training camp, you know, so far, you know, with me just being in the NFL, and I feel like this is one of those years for me, you know,

ready to take that next step. Right, right. I mean, what next step can you take? You didn't play in every big game. You didn't play really good football. ball in all the big games, you know, played in what, what you play in six, seven playoff games now? Oh, yeah. And play really well.

Tell me about that. Like, how is that feeling now? Because you're not only a veteran, but you're a playoff vet and a Super Bowl vet. So do you feel like even more confidence, even more at ease, you know, going into the city? Yeah. I would say, yeah, I'm more, I'm more poised out there, especially, you know, with just like, when the ball is coming, you know, it's more, it's not like a panic no more. It's like, it's my ball.

Like, so it's like kind of a different feeling. And then like with just the playoffs, everybody is expecting me to make a play or like get a turnover. So I feel like that's, that's what is expected of me. So, you know, that's kind of like my standard. That's kind of how I push myself, you know, with just, you know, just that feeling,

you know, just wanting to get that feeling back. How's the energy around the team? I mean, obviously, It's always some kind of chaos going on in training camp. It was Nick last year. It was, it's BA and Trent this year. But it's a veteran group. So I'm sure everybody handling it pretty good.

Yeah, everybody's under control. They know it's going to get done at some point. We just, you know, everybody just ready for week one, really. Just, you know, the emotions is high, you know, just ready to get that feeling back, get back out there, you know, because we left with a sour taste, you know, with losing the Super Bowl. So everybody just really want to get back out there and just show what we got. Believe you and me, I know what I feel.

It's not good, boy, you're just going to play again. Yeah, that was a tough one. Yeah, I know. What's your thinking, Nick? Oh, he's great. You know, the energy level he brings, you know, to the defense room, and then everybody is more familiar with him, you know, because he was already on staff.

and, you know, he used to always be in front of the team, presenting third down and stuff like. So he has the attention of the room already. So we just need that, you know, that first game, get that first game jitters out for everybody, really. How much different is it having Nick than it was having Steve? Because I know Steve want to bring random zero pressures and pressure and he's all fire zone, fire zone, get to the quarterback, get to the quarterback. I was with Nick for a long time. So I would assume he'd sit back, let the four rush.

Yeah, yeah, it's more of, yeah, let the front eat, you know, we sit back, you know, and play, you know, play our sound defense and you got to literally pick us apart from every angle. So, you know, I kind of like that motto too, also, too, you know, I'm more of like a team player. I'm with, you know, whatever coach call, I'm going to try to execute it. Right, right, as you should be, as you should be. How does it feel? I saw Huff out there for a little bit. I don't know if he out there fully practicing yet, but it looked like he was. in good spirits. How has it been to have him back around?

Oh, man, his energy, you know, Huff, you know, it's a guy, he's a guy like, he's hard not to like, you know, he just, you know, so positive. He brings so much energy to the room and just when he speaks, you know, everybody listen. Like, he's just a natural moral leader. Mm-hmm. And for sure, he for sure is. Hey, all I've been hearing is you've been killing during camp.

Obviously, it's a contract year. They got you playing, inside, they got you playing outside. How are you feeling about that? Are you trying to spend more of your time outside? You know, there were coaches that said, if you were to play inside in the Super Bowl,

that game would have went different. But that's a story for a different day, you know? I'll shoot the message. Yeah, I believe that also, you know, I'm more like whatever the team needs, you know, but like with the contract part, you know, it just got to make sense.

Like, you know, it can't just be, you know, something that that's really not my worth, I would say. Right. But like just, you know, being here and playing here, like, you know, I love this team and I love everything about it, the organization, and just me wanting to execute and be one of those, you know, pro bowl players, all pro players. You know, I just constantly, you know, and preach to myself that I just, just got to work and just, you know, be, be one of them guys.

Like, I got to show up. Like, so that's kind of like the chip I play with on my shoulders. Like, I just have to show up. Right, right. And it's going to be that way. Until you get paid, after you get paid, a couple years later, like, it's going to be that way. You got to stay hungry and you got to stay after it.

But I've been proud of you, man. I've been really proud of your growth. You played really well. You, you showing up and showing out. You got a family now. they said your kid broke the record at Kaiser, which is crazy. Oh, yeah, yeah. How wild was that?

Yeah, it was actually crazy because, you know, they'd be doing it in kilos when they, when they weigh the babies. And I was looking at, I was looking at the numbers, and I was like, and then I'll just put up my phone and I start doing the numbers. I was like, no, this is crazy. No, this can't be, because they was telling us the whole time that he was going to be like seven pounds. So we was like not expecting a huge, a huge baby like that.

So when he came out and it happened and it was like, this is the biggest baby. Like they gave us like a certificate. Like this is the biggest baby that we didn't have, you know, being born here. It was crazy. That's insane. Hey, I hope you got your old lady something because boy. Oh, yeah, yeah.

That don't sound like no joke. It don't sound like no joke. What you name me? A Titan. Okay. I like that. I like that. What went into that?

I really liked that day. Just him being so big, like he was so, so we just, Titan was just one of those names that really stuck out. So who else has been showing out, in your opinion, in training camp? Obviously, you got the rookie per selle who they drafted in the first round. And, you know, I mean, I'm sure you didn't got the up close and personal. But I try to tell people, like, rookie receivers is rare that they're going to come in and have all the craftiness to deal with a veteran corner.

You know what I mean? They might get you every now. in, but what have you seen from him that makes you feel optimistic? I would say his work, his work ethic. Like, he, he, he one of those guys that, you know, I could tell, like, he put time into his craft. Like, just, just, I don't even know if he'd notice, but, like, you know, I was watching, like, his Instagram videos and, like, like, him when he working out, I think he was, like, in Florida or something, or he was working out with some trainer, and I was just watching him, and you could tell, like,

he was real determined. And then when I seen him like in camp, like, he showed, he showed up on film. Like, you know, his, his routes and stuff, like his crispiness and his hands for sure. He ran, he ran like one of those routes. He ran like a seven stop on me. And it was like, it was like blanket coverage. It was tight. And then, you know, he stuck his hands out and caught it.

And then we went down to the ground. And then he like, he like spent the ball after. And then after that, after that. After that, I was like, I was like, oh, yeah, I got to get it. I got to get them back. So then, you know, we've been battling. You know, it's been a great battle. You know, I feel like he's going to come in and be a good guy, you know, to come in and help us.

I like that. I like that. I'm all pro-free, obviously, again, you're playing on such a talented defense, but still making your impact. What's that, what's those conversations like? Because y'all have been a great defense for, I mean, since you've been in the league, is that do you feel like the standards the same? Do you feel like guys are making sure they're deliberate and intentional about keeping

God holding the standard and teaching guys like the rookies coming in, like Renardo, who's coming in, you know, to the standard and teaching them how things are done so that the next group is ready to play? Oh, yeah. Fred, you know, he's, he is the standard, really. You know, I mean, you've seen him work. He's deliberate and walkthroughs, you know, everything about him, you know, it's like he's the standard, you know.

So a lot of people see him and walkthroughs and in practice. And then, you know, coaches, you know, they actually pointed out and it's like, this is like this is how you get it done. Like, and his resume, it shows. So, like, everybody wants that same type of resume. So we all kind of like following, follow in the footsteps. and, you know, try to try to be, you know, be that, you know, but in our own way. Fred is one of those, he's one of those guys, you know, like, you don't, you don't see,

you don't come across him, like, in this league. And it shows, like, you know, he's different. Like, I remember, like, my first time getting in there, it was a preseason against the Raiders. They, my first time at Nickel, it was, it was so much communication. Like, he was calling out so much stuff and it was crazy. Like after that point on, I was like, yeah, he wanted him once. Right. Like, he wanted them ones.

Like, it was just like, it was undeniable. Right. That's how it is. I mean, I'm sure you're communicating like that now. Once you get, you know, what you know. Yeah, yeah, once you get, once you know. Yeah. Yeah.

So, question, because I've never watched it. Did you ever get a chance to go back and watch the Super Bowl? Yeah. Yeah, I went back. I had that. I had to watch it. Like, I just had to have. the seat. But I kind of like, I kind of felt because like I talked to I talked to Wilkes

like before the like before the game and I was just telling them how I was feeling. You know, I was like, you know, me, I just, I watch a lot of film. So I was just seeing where the ball was going. And I was like, it's mainly in between the hashes, you know, it's going to the slots. Like they don't really got no dominant outside guy. So like I was telling them like I feel like I should be in the slot this game. Like I never came to him, never, because I never questioned a coach, never questioning decisions and nothing. I came to him. That was the only time I came to him and I said that.

But, you know, they had their philosophy and what they felt worked, well, what was going to work. And they made that decision. So I was like, I'm going to just roll with it. I'm going to just try to do what I can to help us win. Well, look, I'm going to tell you this from experience. and as an old man who don't play no more, just go talk to Kyle. Yeah, at that point, look,

if you get any kind of feeling in your heart, any kind of inkling, any kind of, just go talk to Kyle. It's his team, is his, what do you want to do with it? Because I think that would have moved a needle next time. Like, if you just said that to him, you would have been playing inside in the Super Bowl. And that would have been the end of it.

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Oh yeah, yeah, for sure. That's all you got? That's all you got, Tom Brady reached out. He said, yeah, it was cool. It's cool. It's good. Like, shit.

Jeez. No, because I kind of have my heart to hurt with Tom Brady, like, after that Bugs game when we, when we played them, it was like my first time meeting them, like, seeing them. It was, like, crazy. That was, like, one of the craziest feelings. I was like, wow, this is Tom Brady. Like, I've been watching him for a long time.

Like, and I'm actually seeing him up in person. And then, like, I'm talking to him and shaking. his hand and like we conversating it was like that was crazy right it don't even feel real when you talking to it right yeah it was like it was like man i didn't see you on tv so many times and never thought i'd be speaking to you right right and he's a good he's a good dude man i like to so this year you know year four you got you established people know who you are opponents know who you are what receivers you're looking forward to facing this year and don't tell me everybody because yeah that's i mean it's the whole schedule the whole schedule on the menu

I ain't going to lie to you. Like week one, we starting all week one, Gary Wilson, he's on there because, you know, the league respect him. Justin Jefferson, of course, you see his contract. But we, Justin Jefferson the most, really, because when we had that joint practice, I felt like me going against him really helped me make the team. Right.

That year, because, like, I was coming off of a, rookie slump or like the doghouse and you know uh my second year they was already you know that we had drafted some guys and uh i was already in a bad position well i felt like it kind of was looking like i was in a bad position right to where i was like fighting for a roster spot right so like like i was seeing like all the articles and stuff and i was like i was like thinking in my head like this can't be true because like i know how good i am like this is crazy like so then like that that whole second year it was like a big drive like I'm like like I'm I'm taking my shot like I'm going in like I'm doing whatever I got to do to make this team because like I ain't never I ain't grow like to be like

I was never trying to be number two like I was always trying to be one like I was always trying to be the one like that guy so so just seeing those articles it was like it was like crazy to me like wow like this is what they think. Like, all right. So then I just locked in. When I moved to Arizona, I had moved to Arizona, I was, my son was like six months and I was just study, I was studying film like, this is the most film I probably ever watched.

Like, I was just studying film. And, uh, I was hitting you up. I hit, I hit you up, you know, I was talking to you. Um, and then I was, I started watching film. Like, I started locking in, start learning concepts and start, like, stuff started making, making sense. Makes sense. So then I start.

I started pairing it with, you know, the playbook. So I put myself through a call to the playbook. And then it was like, it started getting easy. So then I started to see it. So then once we came back, that's when the coaches are telling me, like, you look like a different player now. And I was like, it just had to make sense for me. So that was like kind of like my whole little second year jump and then what drove me into making the team. So when I got lined up against Justin Jefferson,

I remember Kyle was standing right behind him watching. And I was like, this is my shot to make the team really like right here. So then that rep, I think he like he ran like a dig route. I broke it up. And then I looked at Kyle and he was smiling. So I was like, all right, I'm in the plus. So then the whole practice, I was like, like every time, everywhere Justin Jefferson was going, And I'm like, like, I'm trying to, I'm telling Embry, like, I'm trying to follow him.

Like, I need this one. Like, so he mushing over. Uh, he running out. He catch it. But I, it's like tight covers. He catch it. So, yeah, we're talking. We're going back and forth.

Run plays. Going at it. We going at it. Um, he like, this time he run a hitch. I covered a hitch. And then he scramble drill. And then scramble drill. And then he runs.

down the field and then they throw it, they throw a D ball. You know, I did it up. You know, I'm talking. I'm like, we're going at it the whole practice. So then I felt like after that, after that was kind of like respect. And then I went and then I bought in the game. And then that's when I felt like I was in a better position to make the team. Bro.

That's inspiring. Bro, you're going to have to tell that story. You're going to have to tell that story a lot. When you done after 15 years of playing National Football League, however long you want to play, you're going to have to tell that story. you're going to inspire some young man who having a tough camp or having a tough year to go out there and believe he can get it done. That's pretty cool. Yeah, that's, that Kyle, I knew it.

I knew it because, like, he never really watching one. I mean, he watched one on ones, but this one, like, it was like a different position. And he was, like, right there. He was like, like, this is the receivers right in front of me. He was standing directly behind him. And then my position coach, he was, like, off to the right. So I was like, this is the one. This is the rep that I, that.

could say it would be right here. Yeah, 100%. Look, a lot of times what you feel is what it was what it really is. You know what it feels like where you're in that bubble and things ain't going how you want them to go. We don't want to say it, but football is one of those honest sports. You go into that film room every goddamn day and they tell you exactly how they feel about you, good, bad, or indifferent.

And then, like, at that time, I was running with the threes on like, yeah. So it was like, it was looking like, you know, Green Bay. We played Green Bay that year, like, first game. and I didn't play to like the second, I want to say, they put me in in the first quarter because I think somebody got, was tired or they put me in and then, but I wasn't realistically supposed to play to like the second quarter. So I was already feeling like, man, like, ah, like it was already like, I don't know, but I'm like, I'm going. I'm going. I'm going to do whatever I got to do. Like, that's just what it is. Like, I'm going to do whatever I got to do. and then I was like, I knew he was having a joint practice, but I didn't know if Justin Jefferson was going to practice,

but I was like, whoever out there, like. Right, strap. Yeah, like, yeah, I was, that whole camp, like, but I felt like this camp was like more of like me, you know, perfecting up my craft and trying to, you know, just take my game to the next level. But, bro, that's part of the journeys. Like, that's exactly how I was.

I was fifth round just like you was. You come in, you're fighting for your life. You don't know up from down. You don't care. Like, I'm not about to drown. Like, I'm about to scrap. You're going to have to put me out of this place. And in the second year, you're like, hey, I kind of know what's going on.

But still, I'm strapping everybody. I'm about what I'm about. Ten toes. And then your third year, you're like, all right, like, I got it pretty much together. Like, let me, let me lock in. I want to be a press. I want to be a step kick. Let me schematically.

Let me understand the concepts. Understand the scheme. understand the team, you know what I mean, how I can be a leader, how I can impact others. And then you keep going from there. And like you said, like you start to help other guys, bring other people along and continue to elevate your game because you are dog. And that's sometimes what Kyle would want to see. That's why he probably went over there in one-on-ones because he knew he was like, he probably said something about you. And then he wanted to go see if it was true. And so he was like, I got to go see this rep for myself. And you showed him what he

thought he was going to see. And that's, I respect the hell out of that. Because Kyle was a straight shooter. You go talk. I don't know how many conversations did you have with him. Because that same, that same, like, that same training camp, like, in practice, he had, he had, like, called me out. He had called me out. It was, like, like, I know you a dog, but you got to show it, like, show it all the time. And I was like, wait, like, I felt like I've been showing I'm a dog. Like, this is not dog enough for you. Like, so then I'm like, like, leash off now. Like, right? You just gave me the keys.

Now I want to, this, this is, I'm going to give you what you want. Right, right. Now, every time I do something, I'm going to say, hey, this is what you wanted. This is what you want it. Oh, that's, that's cool, man. That's exactly how I was. I was scrapping, scratching and fighting. And then after a while, you feel so dominant.

You're like, hey, I'm in one-on-ones. I'm working tech. I sometimes didn't even use the chin strap. And then I office coordinator would be like, you didn't even buckle your chin strap. How did you stop that route? You're not taking this. serious. I'm like, I'm taking a dead ass

serious. I'm just, I don't give a damn about none of that. I'm locked into my keys. Bang, it's all technical. You ain't going to speed me up. And me not buckling is me just letting you know you not speed me up. Like, I'm not concerned out here. Yeah. Which corners did you? Because we

different body type. So I can try to help you as much as I want. My God, I always meant to talk to you about this. Green Bay game might have been two years ago. They gave you PI. and you used my move and I could not believe they called that on you. You caught.

Yeah, that one was, I was kind of, because I was watching, I got all your tape. So I got everybody, like I got yours. I got Revis. I got, um, champ, like just all the goats. You know what I'm saying? I got all your tape. So I seen you did it one time and I seen they didn't call it. So I was like, that's kind of good.

Like that's a good. And I had the white gloves on. So I was thinking like, I was going to get it. I was going to get away with it. And I was surprised they called it. That's why, because like after the play, I started celebrating. And then I seen the flag and I'm like, whoa, they, he saw all that. Like, how?

Wait, bro, bro. I watched it live and I said, I've never seen him call it. Never. I was sick. I was sick. Oh, I was sick. You did it so clean too. I thought, yeah, I thought I got away with it.

But it's probably because I was, because he was so much taller than me or something and they just I don't know. I just be hating because where he was looking from, because where he threw the flag right, he couldn't have saw. Your body to body. You inside got his hand. I, what are we doing? Yeah, it was crazy.

And that was like my first game. That was my first game at Nickel, too. Right. And yeah, and that was the game that Aaron Rogers had, he had set me down. Like, that was my rookie slump, like, after that game. You know, so that, so I got something. in story for him Monday night week one. I love that. I love that. Hey, this ain't the rookie no more.

It's back. Hey, you got your revenge list. We're going to revisit it during this middle of the season. Like, as you check them off. Oh, yeah. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential.

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You let that out because sometimes that was my biggest thing in a senior bowl. The senior bowl is when I kind of let myself hold. off the leaf because in college, I used to be like, you know, the coach was like, hey, you got to get lower in your technique, you got to do this, you got to do that. And I'm like, bro, if y'all just leave me alone, I promise you I can strap. But y'all won't be bending down to five foot six when I'm six three. And that's tough of place. Yeah, like, sometimes you can't overcoaching. Like, sometimes somebody just got the natural, like, God-given ability to do that, to stand, stand tall and be able to just stop on a dime and, you know, change direction. Like, some stuff you just

can't coach. Right. So that's what happened when I got to the league. I got to the senior ball. I was like, effing it. I'm going to do, I'm going to play in my way. If they're going to cut me and I'm going to get eliminated and get sent home, I'm going to get sent home doing it how I'm supposed to do it. Yeah. And I did that all the way until I retired. It worked out. Yeah, it worked out for sure. So what's your goal this season? Got to be pro bowl, I'm guessing. Yeah, pro bowl, all pro. like I'm setting the bar so high like I want to shoot for the stars yeah you know because I feel like when I held my set myself to a standard like I'll be expecting to do I'm trying to do more than a standard right I'm trying to be higher but I want to pro bowl all pro five interceptions

you know a good amount of tackles because I know they say DB is not supposed to have a lot of tackles that mean you get in the ball caught on you. So, you know, a good amount of tackles were just strapped the whole season. Right, right, right, right. Get you a few TFLs, you know, somehow. Oh, yeah, TFL, sacks. Yeah. I've been doing good, like, on my pass rush moves now and, you know, getting to the

quarterback, so I feel like I can showcase some of that, too. I like that. It all come with experience and time. It all come experience in time. So in your four years or your three years, who's been the toughest receiver you saw? it was it was it was it was Justin Jefferson I would say because uh I felt like that was like the first you know dominant receiver that you know I went against what I was like dominating in the league like I felt like he was the first one that I actually was able to guard

because uh Eman and uh Mooney they they was both hurt they was both hurt so I was able to get out there and, you know, actually, you know, get with them, like, a couple of times. So I feel like, I feel like it was, it was him. But like, it'll be a different, it'll be a different approach this year because, you know, like, I didn't outgrew that rookie stage and that, you know, that second year stage. So it'll be like a different, different battle. So, but so far, yeah, it's, it's been him. I would say him and then, um, I, are you in there? Are you in there? You know, we didn't have our battles. Like, all training camp last year, like, we was having battles.

Like, it was battles. Like, and he was lining up at the X on the right side all the time. And I played the right corner. So I was able to see him, like, majority of, like, every day in practice, every day in practice, we was going at it. Right. So I felt like that that help boosts my game, too. And also, you know, going against Debo, you know, you never know what you,

you're going to get out of Debo, like he can line up anywhere and do anything, really. Like, he's just one of those players. And then he gets the ball in his hand, and now you got to tackle him. Right. So, like, I felt like they all played a part in, you know, making me to who I am, you know, with just building the confidence. So the hyena going from 38 to two, what went into that? Was it just growth?

It was it just like shedding the rookie young kid and going to vet or? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's, that's, that's definitely what it was. It was, it was that. And then it was like the number, the number looked way better. Like, I knew, I knew it looked better when, when Kyle said in a meeting, like, the night before the game, he was like, oh, my God, you look so much better than two. And that was like, he's, he's definitely right. Because I used to see that 38, like, even the players I used to make a play, I used to be like, I wish I had a better number on.

It's like, oh, man, it's like, if I would have just had two on, maybe I would have had a way more jersey sales. Right, right. People weren't buying that 3-8 willingly. I'm telling you. Yeah, I was like, I tried to make it look good. You know, I was trying to do the extra, but then it was just like, nah. I knew it was bad when my video guys was talking about me. They was like, oh, bro, you need to get rid of that.

He's like, you're a vet now. Look, with Charverian, look, I talked about Charverius and Sneed and then boys and Kansas City. I was like, y'all be bowling but got the stankest, 35s, and 38th. Yeah. I said, I was hoping he didn't come over to San Francisco with that 3-5-all. He had it. He had it at first. He had it at first, like, in OTAs, when he first came, he had the three-five, and he's like, I think I'm about to change my number to seven. I was like, seven, I was like, I got to see it. And then he put it on, and I was like, all right, yeah, you see it. Yeah.

Yeah. Oh, I'm glad he did because he gets a lot more love because he used to ball out, but people, he had that three five on it. People just wouldn't have. I think that definitely played a part, too, that, like, he didn't get much love because he had 35. Right. Even when he came to nine.

Seven, like, it's more like, it's a better look for sure. No question. No question. So it's Pat, well, clearly, I'm not going to argue with you. I'm not going to argue who is the best quarterback you didn't seem outside of Pat. And then Brock. Outside of, all right, Patten Brock. Matthew Stafford.

Crafty, Amy. And then Kirk Cousins. Them too, like, I slept on them, too. Because, like, I always grew up, like, oh, he played for the Lions. All right, he played for the Redskins. So I didn't really know, like, when Kyle, like, start breaking down the offense and, like, what, how they have to read? And then, like, you know, and then it's like the edge rushers nowadays is running four three. So you got to do all this and a matter of time quickness.

So I start like, so once we played Minnesota that week and we lost to them at their house and Kirk Cousin was having a hell of a game. I was like I had so much respect for him after because I was like, I didn't think he could do it. Bro, Kirk one and I'm going to be honest. I didn't think he could do it. That don't look, I'm going to let you know some. There's certain quarterbacks that the media get in their little feelings about that they don't get credit. And Kirk is one of them dudes. You will never hear it from me.

Kirk is one of them. Like if he got the right supporting cast, he's going to give somebody a long day. Oh, yeah, for sure. Because I was talking to Trent, Trent about it. And he was like, man, I'm telling you, Kirk is good, bro. I'm like, I'm like, yeah, okay. We got Bosa coming off the edge. Like, yeah, we'll see.

Like, you know, I was, I'm just. just, you know, just being young, just thinking of the Kirk cousins and the redskins, like they having losing records and stuff. So I'm thinking like that. And I'm like, so then once I actually seen him and he was standing in there throwing dots, I was like, wow. That boy can do it. He can be tricked.

But if he, if he own, he going to get the ball where it's supposed to be going. Oh, yeah, for sure. And Stafford just was in Detroit. The difference between Stafford and Ayrod seems good. great outside, you know what I mean? Because A-Rog got the MVP's and all that. On that field, it is not as great as you think. Like, that boy, Stafford can sling the rock.

Side-on here. Yeah, no look. Yeah, he was throwing a couple of no-looks when we played them versus the Rams. He was throwing a, I was like, wow. Like, this is a Hall of Fame quarterback. Bro, he could do it. He was putting a ball, like, he was putting a ball to where it was like, you couldn't even, like, I couldn't even break the ball up.

It was like, he's just putting it there. Right. I'm like, I know that was great coverage. He just putting it there. Right. It's a hitch. He throwing it to his back hip away from you to the sideline. You're like, bro, I drove inside hit.

That could have been a pit. So, yeah, that's why. So when I finally intercepted him, I was happy as hell. I was like, I got him back. No, finally, we even now. You want to hear a good quarterback, man. It's a lot of people that they, it's some people they get too much credit to. And then there's some people that they just think are,

are cheeks and they're not. Like, Dak, they give a, like, a headache. Dak will get, let Dak be on. Oh, yeah, yeah. When Dak is on, he on. He on. And that's why he was second team all pro. But what else?

What else you got for me that you're excited for this season? Really, that game versus KC. I think, I think that's another game that's on the list that I, myself, like, we have to win that game. Right. That game is like a must win. Like, we, we, we got to get some type of get back and then, you know, at the end, get another get back. Right.

And we settled it off. Like, we all in one against them. Well, I mean, since I've been on a team, we're o' and one against them. Yeah, don't bring up the old stuff. Don't bring up the whole stuff. Yeah, yeah. We're 0 and 2 against them against the, you know. Yes, I do.

But I feel like this year, this is our year, and we all determined and focused and we know it's at stake. Like, we know like this could possibly be the last dance. Right. So we know what needs to be done. What you're doing is different this year? To make that result different. Really just being more like vocal. I feel like last year I was kind of in a phase where like, oh, I ain't make enough plays yet to really, you know, say something.

something or really voice how I feel. But this year, I feel like I'm more of, like, being in that, like, trying to be a leader. Like, you know, trying to lead and, like, speak. Because actually some of the guys in the room, well, most of the guys in the room, like, when I do say something, like, they actually do listen. Like, I never thought, like, it was like that, like, you know, just because I was, what I came in, fifth round and, you know, then made a couple of plays, but I wasn't really, like, you know, the guy in the room.

So it was like, I really never really said anything. But like now it's like just like a different approach. And I'm sure they appreciate that. I'm sure everybody appreciate that including DB. Oh, yeah, DB. Well, let me. If you got any questions for me, I ain't going to take too much more your day.

I know you got stuff to do and get back to that baby. Oh, yeah. I wonder how big he is now. How big is he now? Two years old, and he's about, he's knocking on 40 pounds. Oh, God. Yeah. He wearing four-year-old clothes, man.

It's crazy. Yeah, see, I thought you had a DB. You might want to just put his hand in the ground and make him mean. Because it might come off that edge. Got to come off the edge. I don't know where these genetics came from, but that's what we're doing with this, babe. Yeah. I love that.

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