The Herd with Colin Cowherd - The Richard Sherman Podcast - Lil Wayne on Packers-49ers, Cowboys, Kobe Bryant stories, Drake & Skip Bayless

Episode Date: January 20, 2024

Richard Sherman interviews Lil Wayne, a huge Green Bay Packers fan, and discusses the upset win over the Dallas Cowboys in the NFC Wild Card Round, how the Packers will fare against the San Francisco 49ers, and Jordan Love looking like a worthy successor to Aaron Rodgers. Weezy also discusses his early days with Birdman and Young Money, discovering Drake and Nicki Minaj, and explains why everyone loves to hate Drake. Weezy & Sherm share stories about Kobe Bryant and Skip Bayless before Lil Wayne gives an update on Tha Carter VI album.  #volume #herdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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You know this, sir. You're supposed to be. Super Bowl. Championship. That should always be the expectation. I ain't mad at you. Go on here. So I brought you in, because I got to know, you know,

now you're Packers. than beat Dallas, which I'm grateful for in a way, but, I mean, they know how to make it? Dallas is so bad. How are y'all going to mess up my song to talk about when y'all get eliminated? You can't say, go, I'll leave. Y'all couldn't just wait one more around, so we can go make the song. You can't even bet on them for that, man. Can't even bet on them for that.

You can't count on them, man. You know everybody knows that. Right, right. Well, tell me what you was thinking going into the game because, you know, clearly y'all are the seven seed. Y'all been playing well, Green Bay, won seven of their last 10. But did you think they was going to blow them out like that? I didn't, obviously.

I'd be lying if I said I thought they were going to blow them out. But I did say that was going to give us three or four interceptions. He gave us three. I did. C-3? Yeah, but I wouldn't, I ain't allowed. Even when it was 27, when it was 27, nothing to a half, I still, I was not comfortable at all.

I was not. So I was like, yeah, you know, like, that's a good, I said, I looked at it as, that's a good head start. Right. Now I mean? Right. They come right back and got like, well, 10 or something, right? They chopped it down like, they got 10. I was like, see, that's what I mean.

Then when we come right back and answer, that's what my, you know, it wasn't even confidence. It was like the confidence that was already there. It was like I had to tap back into it. And on the, the reason why I said, the reason I tap back into it was number 10, Jordan. He reminded. He reminded you. Yeah. And also, also coach reminding me that he is a beast.

And you know how we like to bring up those, we like to bring up those 12 wins seeding that McCarthy got and all that. Coach Matt got a nice resume as well. Mm-hmm. He's been coaching his brother. This might be his best work right now, you know, because he's doing it without Aaron. He's doing it without, you know,

because you lose a little bit of something when you're doing it with Aaron. They don't get you credit like that. Exactly. Trust me, I know I'm real, you know, I'm real close with coaching, had him conversations with him, and it was some dark talent, but just a roller coaster. But now, you know, from the beginning of this season, beyond that his trust in his confidence in Jordan was what it should be,

obviously, because, you know, he's there every day. But it was like, you know, it was like somebody telling you, you know, somebody telling you, like, I got the best, the best such and such in my house. I'm telling you, man, I got the, you're like, man, I didn't been in a bunch of houses, bro. You know, he was like, I just saw a lot of the best. I don't know.

And, man, he, yeah, he, he, he, he, dog. So take me through your mindset, because I remember us sitting in that suite in Green Bay when they, when they was getting, getting handed to him by Detroit. And you was not happy. And then take me to you how you was feeling when you were sitting there with a mask on looking at Yellow Beezie, why you in that sweetened dance?

You know, it was crazy, Sean? I was, it was, I was there, like, I thought that was, you know, I thought, you know how, you know how on the road, those Dallas fans travel, when there's really just people that live in that place that's all of a sudden, a Dallas fan that day. You know how I go. Man way. But, you know, so I was expecting to be, that's kind of the reason why I had the mess on.

I ain't feel like, you know, I ain't feel like fussing with nobody and on it. But, man, Rich, it was like going, it felt like going, I've been. to a lot of charges games out here in LA. And you know, you're going to a charges game. I don't care how Justin Hurried. I don't know how he's slinging it. It's by the crowd about to be 80% whoever they're playing. They could be playing the Panthers this season.

For real, bro. That's how bad. This season. Yeah. This season, man. Yes. But so when I was, bro, I heard goat pat go. I was like, am I tripping?

And then it got a little louder. So, you know, I heard, then, you know, you hit the Dallas. I tried to come in with the booze. But once it became 27-nothing, man, half-time felt like I was at Lambo. No more, no less. No more, no less. And then the way Jerry got, by the way, Jerry's real is amazing.

The way he got that, the suites that I was in set up, I've never been in a suite like that. Where I still, I was amongst the crowd. I felt like I was still amongst the crowd. And it was so close to the sideline, you could almost. I was, yell at one of them boys. Like, yo, I was like, Jerry got this, this played too cold. But so when, what I was surprised to see, that was one thing I was surprised to see that

it was trumped with, that they even let all those Green Bay fans in there. And also, I was surprised to see that they left, bro. Like, like, oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. It was a lot of, like, four-point. I was waving by, y'all drive safe, now. Y'all drive safe, now. I don't say it's cold out there, now.

Oh, bond a love. Now, told him. Did you forget your jacket? Did you forget your jacket? Go get your gloves in your chair. Go get you, please. Come on now. No.

You weren't telling him to get the jacket on the chair. What, man? You better go, what? Tell me how you feeling about Jordan Love? Because I remember, I was a lot nervous. I didn't believe Jordan Love was going to be the answer. I told you, I remember chopping it up with you. I didn't think he was going to be like this.

He wasn't playing that well that day in Detroit. I was like, he going to, I mean, you didn't have Brett Ford. You didn't have Aaron. Y'all got to take a break somewhere. And you don't look like it now. That's exactly what you're telling me. And you say, you know, you told me,

you know, you knew I was upset. So you broke it down to me like that. You actually did say that you said, man, you know, it's very rare that a franchise go from, you know, the number one position like that and this cheap hitting like that. Now, you told me that. You was like, you know, like this cheap hitting. Like, but man,

what I like the most about them is his poise. Because I ain't even talking about it on the field because what I'm about to say, obviously it's going to show on the field as well. But just to be able to sit behind Aaron for them three of them years like that, you know, and then knowing you got to remind himself, he came in the door already unwanted.

Right. And when he got drafted, that draft night, it was already, ready, what's going on? You know, and Aaron, you know, they made it, he made it uncomfortable. And so just to know the little homie sat and dealt with all that, and they

still to this day, and he never, the first thing he's going to say, Aaron was a great teacher and a great this and a great dad and I learned this and he tell you was, this with him, and so with that, that boy, and then to go through what he went through, obviously in the beginning of the season, and to stick

with it. I heard Romeo answer a question today, they asked them, what do you, so what changed about Jordan, Romeo Dives, a receiver for the Packers? They asked him, what changed about Jordan Love from the beginning of the season up until now? Like, well, it was to be.

He was like, nothing. He was like, totally like nothing. He was like, he's been the same person and he's like, not the beginning of the season. He's like, since the day I walked through the door. Right. He's been the same person on and off the field. He was like, it's just that we all, we all,

We all were clicking now. Then he asked him, he asked Romeo, who's the best receiving that receiving room. And he was like, I come through and I come through. He's come through when he comes through. And he was like, so nobody, we are the best receiving for it. Hey, that boy handled them questions because you don't Skipby trying to set you up. Skip be trying to set him up. And then, you know, also I started he maintained that same, I'm talking about Romeo,

He maintained that same composure on key certain questions. Because he was trying to, he was trying to soften the question of to get more out of. He was trying to get him on the Aaron Rogers question. Like, like, oh, Aaron, here, my head. I said, y'all boy, sad. But what I noticed, Brian said, what he reminded me of was Jordan. I was like, I was like, that pause again.

That's what I was like, that seemed like that's something that I don't know, you know, that's got to be in you regardless. But I'm wondering if that's a, that's a trait that mantra is something that they're taking on in that locker room. Well, it seemed like, especially for young dudes. I'm like, you. I'm going to say young dudes, you got to humble yourself. You have to. Right.

You have to. But, I mean, usually young dudes is the ones to make a mistake in that situation. They usually the ones to stutter or, you know, accidentally say something to be like, man, my bad, I didn't mean that like that. Exactly. He handled that. But you got also remind, we got to remind ourselves that Matt, young, coach him. So they all They remind me

I had my first child I was like 14 They remind me We grew up together You know what I mean They grew up together, man Hey, as they should And they're them boys

Look grown in Dallas They look grown as hell in Dallas What? Man, we all right We ain't satisfied But man We man We like one

We won rice away from being full Man, we're good We're good We're good We're so good. We're so good, man. Chef John got us good right now, man. You say your cup almost run it over, huh?

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and all that and the game, and the best part about it was Yellow Bees his face. That was he looking, why? That's when I noticed that, you know, I was like, he has a foundation of love into this team. You say his soul was hurt, huh? Yeah, that boy was, you know, I faced time a few people, you know,

you know you gotta do it, you gotta face it. Look at him, I face it. So, you know, I face it's face it. When I FaceTime over Diem, I faceTime over Diem. And I'm like, Uncle Dion, I'm like, Uncle Dion, look at you. On the DM on the DM FaceTime me,

I'm like, Uncle Dion, said, I know, I know, I know, I just want to say, I know right now that boy yellow face got to be, I said, oh, he's right here, he's right here. And I said, he ain't, his face ain't changed for Uncle Dion. Oh, exactly. He was for real hurt. He was mad he was hurt.

He was very hurt. He was actually looking at Uncle like, why are you not hurt? It's supposed to be one of us. I'm like, well, Uncle Nana. Oh, speaking of the Niders, how do you feel it going into that game? How you feel it? We got to go now.

Let's go. I mean, man, the feeling going into this game right here is no more to me. I don't know how to, you know, I'm sure that I hope the team don't feel the way I feel actually. But to me, it's David. versus July. No more or no less. No more or no less. And, you know, that that story plays out out the way it played out in that book. But now, it's tough play. It plays out every day in different forms and fashion. So you already know a lot of times of Goli and make David look like David. They look like David. That was the one out of a hundred that he got. Exactly. So I don't,

we don't take it lightly, but, you know, of course, we're, I'm banking on with John Nafsham. the team with the whole team. And so the defense too, by the way. The defense too, they came from some big moments, bro. They came to some big moments in that game, that, that cowboy game. I ain't going to intercept. Oh, my God. I mean, I think that we're going to go back.

I just said that on the angle. He didn't know he was going to give us three interceptions for real. Boy, was feeding families that day. But what we can't expect, and I know they don't, we can't expect Brock to do that. No, because all he's shown us is that he knows how to make the right decision. Now what he's shown me, I don't know about anybody else, but Rock had shown me in the last few games, something I thought I was doubting of him.

I ain't think he could make a play when the play break down. Right. Now he's even showing me that, nah, I'm going to cry. I'm going to, Patrick going to hones you. I'm like, don't you make me, don't you make me, Lamar Jackson. You know what I mean by the way, but I mean, by the last year, take off. if he has to. And you ain't expect, you know, they ain't expecting them.

They're trying to, they worrying about B-Bow and worrying about, because they know he can scramble and still find them. And you already know what y'all do with a yard. You know what y'all do with the two-yard pay. So the only thing I'm glad about that part is that we don't have a problem with tackling. Right. Because, you know, if you're any team that have a problem with tackling, you might as well hang out.

I don't even go out there with a standpoint. Yeah, I mean, I agree. I agree. I think Jai'er Alexander, that boy, a fool. First off, that boy makes me laugh. Every time he gets on a mic, every time he in front of a camera, that boy is a nut.

Interesting. I think he has, he's one of the most, you know, he has a lot of, most of the rhythm on the team. I think it's like him and Lil Watts and him and Christian Watson. Yeah, that boy,

that boy got up there and said, yeah, coach didn't know us from Carolina. Yeah. So I went out there for the coin toss. Exactly. And I told him, put us on defense. You know, they reminded me of, They reminded me of when James was, when James was,

when they, the, that's like, when I started with, it was normal, it was exactly when I started every, I was like, that's what James was reminded. I was like, that reminded me when I don't know him to say, Coach Marleneau's from Carolina. But, like, Coach know you from Carolina, but he's gonna leave you right, right? Right out here. That man, great.

Everyone said, everyone said, so he was like, so he was the captain for the day because you were in California. No, man, I'm the captain of Carolina. I was trying to tell you. I wasn't a captain of the team that day. No, I'm a captain of the Carolina. That's why I'm here. But it's going to us.

Coach didn't tell me to go up there, but I just thought he forgot. Carolina told me, what you mean? I respect his mind. I respect his mind. That's what I do. I respect it. And I respect Coach mine, too,

sticking with that discipline, because, boy, you know, you already, I know coach had a bunch of, like, are you serious? You know, we could have did this at the end of the, you know, we could hit him a nice fine. You know what I mean? Take a game check.

Run a few laps. Run a few lapsing. What? You know if we lose this game now. Exactly, man. You already know. You know who they're going to look. You know what they, you know.

You already know. Because you know what these coaches mess up on a game clock. man, you do this, something, you discipline the plan that we, what?

That's a prayer. We're going to act like we're going to act like he was John Lough if we lose that game. You're all right. You just, you go act like we discipline,

you cut you let join, you suspended Jordan for a game. Right. Look, look, I'm gonna say this. Wayne, you might be

the Green Bay of the rap game in terms of what you did with young money and you got Drake, you got your QB, you got your greats, you got Nikki.

You know what I mean? So you, you're picking them too now. Yeah. I mean, you know, I get that from my, I get that from my, my, my, my, my, my, my, bringing up, being around Birdman and Slim. You know, I mean, that's how they, I always look at how to hell y'all. Y'all saw what y'all saw in us when we was kids. But they saw, and they would, they would not tell us now one day shot up the first,

all the way to the last, my y'all the best. Y'all the best. Wow. And get mad and get mad when we come in. and idolizing somebody else, but not coming to talking about, but not coming to talking about, boy, you saw that past,

Debo Cardin took it for seven and a year. You've been not coming to talk about it. You're the best, man. You're the best. That's why I came with that from day one. I mean, that's wild, though. It's wild to see from where y'all started to where they at now.

I mean, now they two of the biggest in the world. Like, how proud does that make you, you know, knowing that where they came from, knowing you had to spot them out, saw the talent, and now they didn't, you know, took off. No more, no less than, no more and no less than a feeling of a crowd for them. Watching, watching your child going to a, I mean, a perfect, young man, a perfect young, and doing all the things you asked them,

doing, did anything going out and doing it right when you got your eyes closed. You know what I mean? When you got your back turned and they stay here, you got to worry about it. You know, that's one of the great. really still in the world you gotta know when you know that. I can leave you in the house

and I can go run to the store real pants. And you gotta worry about it. You know what I mean? Like, yeah. Why they be hating on Drake like this? That's what I don't understand. He's right. He likes him.

That's true. That's a too show. You know, he likes to. We've been doing that. That's history. That's just America. That's history, man. That's America.

How do I know is because I'm not light skin, I hate it on all light skin dudes in school. So, yeah, that's right. It's American history, man. Hate it on all of them. Hey, your light skin. Shout out. Shout out to y'all, man.

At least yellow. Put it in the name. Especially pretty, like Cornel. But that's something, man. We go ahead. What's wrong with you? What's wrong with you?

Hey. So who is your Mount Rushmore of athletes? Yeah, the football, basketball, baseball, whoever, you know. I want to see if you're a co-beck. or Jordan guy? Oh, Kobe. Because,

it's simply because it's my life, my lifetime. You know, when I came, Jordan was Jordan when I came up, you know, when I got into Jordan was Jordan doing this thing, probably the reason why

even turned on basketball or whatever. But, you know, when else I've gotten to understanding what's going on and not just being wild by it. And now I'm understanding what's going on. Plus, I'm already wilded by you, Jordan. You know what Kobe came in.

And he was, by you as well. So when he came, you know, you kind of relate more to somebody that's trying to be like that's imitate, I mean, imitating you, which is the sign of flat, you know,

I mean, ultimate sense of, so you kind of relate more to, relate and also grew a personal relationship with Kobe too, so, of course, but my Mount Rushmore,

probably will be on there first to put them on there. And then when we go to football, man, it can't, for me, it can't be nobody. else other than them

punk would be on the, I mean, yeah. And then when we go to, when we go to baseball, because I love all sports and I really,

really love baseball. When we go to baseball, for me, it's going to always be a, it's Pedro Martinez and me. That's my favorite player.

Wow. Pedro. Hey, Pedro. All right, Pedro. Yeah. Pedro. And then for the fourth,

I think I'm just, I kind of, iconic with it. And I'm going to go, we don't, since, since it's 20, we can just,

you know, we could do NFT. I'm a, I'm a hologram, NFT-ish to four, they should change to a different phase and these jump be two phases. It's been serenial. Yeah.

I like that. They from the city. I respect. They from where I'm from. So I ain't mad at that at all. They changed the game. Yeah. Imagine an Olympics where

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I was out here in L.A. I was out here in L.A. in the hotel room. And I remember, you know, I remember seeing my phone. Remember seeing a text on United Texts come through your phone. And you just, you go already read and just see a little, remember just somebody texting like you, like, man, they put like, man, Kobe. And they told me, you heard, man. Or somebody else like, man, that's messed up.

And so I'm like, you know, I still don't want to answer. they text, so I don't want to check with it. They're talking about. Right. But then that's when he has to be an alerted. And I was like, oh, no, come on, you know, not only did

the day change, everyone's everybody, if you're a fan of Kobe of basketball and you like change that day. It changed, for sure. It changed, show. I grew up watching Kobe, me and my brother, I mean, we grew up idolizing Kobe and listening to Wayne. We listened in the

Carter's and can't feel my face and droughts and everything. Thank God. Thank God I was lucky enough to, blessed enough to have a sit down with the bro Kobe before. And he told me that exactly what he was going to, listening to, listen, hustler music with his favorite. Hustle music. My brother in the car, yes. I'm mad. I asked what's your favorite.

He can't even say hustle. He can't even say hustle. He can't even say hustle. He can't start. he started rapping on the straight out. Oh, baby, you gotta know that I just, as I tell you, I like, that's my daughter. What I gotta do for me is you.

Yeah. And he was, you know, he was just a cultural icon, man. And we had Brandy, come on, man. What? Man with the Brandy Crown, man. Come on, man. Come on, man. We grew up humble mentality.

Like, you'll be? Man, man, had Brandy dancing at the All-Star game. We didn't even know who Ray J was. He was next to Brandy answering me, no, Ray J. What? What? Come on, man. Kobe did that. Kobe did it, man. Bro, I was so hurt. I was so hurt, Wayne.

Man, I was, we were on the, we were on the plane. We had just got on the plane. We were probably like 30, 45 minutes into the plane right to Miami for the Super Bowl. Oh. Oh. We on the plane to the Super Bowl. And so y'all, you still had, y'all still got the info? still came through. I didn't get nothing.

I'm sitting there half sleep. And John Lynch come in and he come. You know, we're in first class. We're in the laybacks. He's feeling good. He knock on my, knock on like the, whatever luggage cart.

And he's like, hey, I know you had a good relationship with Kobe. I know y'all were close. I just want to drop this before you see it somewhere else. They're saying there's a rumor going around that he may have died in a helicopter crash. When I tell you, like the air went out the room. Right. I already trust me.

Like, he's one of the untouchables. Exactly. And I know exactly like how? It was so, and then that's when you already know the worst part about it was when they added the rest of the news to it. And you're like, nah, nah. Not his baby. Exactly.

You're like, nah, nah, nah. And then the rest of the team as well, other players as well. There's other players like, nah, another. about like, someone, man. That was a tough one right there. Yeah, it was tough. It was, it just, I mean, it's still to this day,

I felt like I was in like an alternate universe for a while. Like, I can't, we're going through Super Bowl practices, and I'm just kind of floating through. Like, what? And then you probably on a team with youngings, I've already know you, I was at, my environment was the most, all people feel, you know, how people felt the same. You're amongst people that, you know,

you're amongst teammates. They probably have young people who don't even get it, don't even care. That's so hard to be around at that time, man. And I don't forget that, having a focus on the damn Super Bowl. What? What a person?

We have the Super Bowl. Like, who we play again? Right. Like Patrick Mahomes in them? All right, like, let me look at the tape. But, like, Kobe, man. For real, for real. I swear, I didn't like, I promise I felt like I was in a haze for a whole week, the whole

everything. I'm sitting there. I wore the jersey to the game and everything. You already know. I know I still had the feeling days after, like, you know, you still be having a feeling like you're going to hear something that it wasn't real or something. Bro, I'm still waiting to hear some fake news. Somebody spot it.

Yeah, exactly, exactly. Bro, it was the craziest thing. But, man, he meant so much to the game. game and just your mindset. Did he touch your mindset? It was actually. Now, period, just the way you approach your date, just your approach it in anything,

especially somebody's doing something or a task or anything. The mentality, you know, if you were a friend like you and I were, the mentality is already instilled. It was just because we are doing it with, you know, like we, like I said, we were all wrong by joining us as he was as well. And he emulating, I mean, we were emulating him. And his mentality was never stopped. Almost like the time of Brady, my child.

You know what I mean? Get it done. Get it done. You won't everybody Mount Rushmore of rappers and all that good stuff. But what was your Super Bowl? Like, what was your biggest moment, your biggest accomplishment in the rap game that you feel most proud of? You know, because y'all got, it's just a different game for y'all. You know, you got five Grammys.

You got number one hits. You got all the mixtapes that you didn't release and all this. But what's the thing you most proud of? For me, I would say, I would say my most proud, one of my most one of my most one of my most proud of, one of the most proud of, one of the most proud moments would be, because I was, oh, mine, we come going to an award show because we thank God we were going to so moving. You know what I mean? So she was like that, you know, it's something you do all the damn time. I don't need to come. You know what I mean?

So when I was nominated for the grandma, it was like, you know, they don't tell you going to win. some people be thinking. A lot of people think that you know that. A lot of people think, you know, they tell you, they do not tell you that. You know what I mean? You get a little, you get a little hint. You know, you kind of, when you start noticing, like,

wow, I'm sitting kind of close to the stage. You know, you know, I mean? So you don't look at seeing you're sitting behind you like, you know, I'm saying, maybe I am about to. And so I remember I bought it. I took it to that and I took it to that. And I was born. I worked four times that night.

Yes. Yeah. So, you have her. that was, I mean, that was just amazing. Elaine, it's just, un-speed you can't. It was like, you know, I couldn't even come over words for that one. That was just unbelievable.

And the other than that, it was bringing her, bringing her my first, when we signed a universal, and bringing her my first, my first, uh, my first universal, so cash money check. And bring, yeah, I remember her,

and I remember that her, like, so, you're about to be making money like this. Like this. Like this. Like you're about to be thinking like, I was like, let's pray we do. That's what they say.

But, bro, it ain't nothing like, like working, working your butt off your whole life and being able to go back and, and spend it

and enjoy with the people that you know you struggle with, you're starved with, your mama sit there and sacrifice. We talked about the Papa Warner games, you know, and you get to raise them up out of it.

You get to show them the other side of life. Went back and read them a whole Pop Warner Park. Just being able to be doing to do things like that, you know what I mean? That's the most beautiful thing. I got to know because I always wonder, how did you and Skip get connected? Because your boys and everything, and I'm like, this is the most random connection in the world.

Yeah, man, I think. I mean, Skip probably met people. Probably met on the, on the, I probably met like once before during the, when he was on the other station. Probably, because, you know, I did a lot of stuff over that, too, but Skip was, skip, this,

he was, he kind of, he had asked, we met each other, I want to do the show and stuff, but he asked me to do the joint. Like, he was like, I want you to do, do the intro. You know, and I was like, you know, once I saw how, you know, I thought it was just a question, you know, I was like, I thought he was going to ask me,

that was that. And when I saw how into it, like, why he's so into, like, but you're about to help me write it? And it's no skill. And, you know, he just indulged in every single thing he's indulged. And then, you know, and we started finding similarities and all that type of stuff. And he also was impressed by my sports knowledge. You know, he was like, I kind of thought you was just a Paco fan.

You know, like, I ain't know you actually. You know, you actually look at your sport. You know more about other sports that I don't even care about. I mean, I was like, I love sports theater. He came to the house I'm in town and, like, come watch a big game

and I got baseball on or something. Like, you're watching this while. Hey, you got a cool setup, though. Your setup is crazy. Love, man. Love. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encouraged.

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What the hell does George Bush got to do a little kill? Well, you can find out on the Look Back at It Podcast. I'm Sam J. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick a here, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. Including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill, waxing all about crack in the 80s. To be clear, 84 is big to me, not just because of crack. I'm down to talk about crack on day, but just so y'all know.

I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack. so I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have AIDS on the table right now. Thank you finishing that sentence. Yes. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Really? Yeah.

For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Look, I got a good in there, and you got to help me write the remix to Divisional and Done since It's going to be one and done. It's one and done now. One and done. Okay. One and done.

Okay. Okay. One and done. They ain't been in the big game in 30 years. Yeah. We just got to make sure we got aspects of every. Yeah. We got to have something.

One and done. We're going to say something about one in one. It's going to be 11. My dog. That's my dog. Hey, he a dog. He a dog. He a dog.

He a dog. One of the best in the game. But he can't be out there and doing it. Ne some more dogs. I think he also need a great dog trainer. You know what I mean? That can put them in a proper place and tell them, you know what I mean, exactly how to be.

Right. But he just, he just such a cool dude and such a well-spoken dude. Like, I need a little bit of ignorance from him. Like, you know what I need you to go out there and like, like you don't need to be that smart. Like, I need you to be just, don't overthink it. I, mm. Wow.

You can get into, like, every, every play, because it just don't seem like sometimes, like, in a regular season, cool, that works. You, you dominate. But in these big games, he didn't just kind of. That's when you got to step up. Even England, it'd be even big games in the regular season. Sometimes you'd be looking for them.

Right. Yeah, so maybe it is, you know, some people it is that, I heard you say, but sometimes it is the likes and stuff for some people, like that stage, you know what I mean, like, man. And all of that, all that actually would be, just pressure. Got to learn how to handle the pressure better.

They're fine. I learn how to be who you trust that you are within those situations. Some people, some people, Wayne, they don't really know, they don't really believe that they are who they think they are. And that's,

their moments is when it gets shown. That's what you get shown. Yeah. You find out who you, what you really think of yourself. Because in the moments of everything going good, it's sweet, you know,

if you win, it's good. You know, I know, yeah. And so when it started going, when it rained, man. stay that same person. Right. Just like dance like it's sunny. It's sunny out there.

100%. That's 100% every single time. I want to know, did you, because most successful people, you know, you go through the ups and downs, but the reason you're successful was because you always believed you would be where you're supposed to be.

So it always makes sense to you in the end. Did you believe you was going to be as big as you are now? Did you believe that it would all work out as it has? fortunately because I was blessed to be signed so young as a kid. I actually did believe I was because I was still the kid. So, you know, my, I had thoughts on the kid. Yeah, I'm going to be a big rapper.

I'm going to be the best rapper. That's why I was saying. I'm my best rap when I was literally around dudes who wasn't rapping about their raps. They wasn't rapping about how good a rapper they were. You know what I mean? But I was a kid. So I'm the best rapper. You know what I mean?

So I did have this. So yes, I did see all that. Not even visualized them, but yes, I did. I didn't see no. This ain't going to work. I was too young to see that. You know what I mean? That would have been, I was so young when I signed to them,

would have been me thinking, me sneak, you even telling me if there's a chance that there's no work, but you would have been you telling a Fabio that Santa Claus is in real. You know what I mean? Right. That's how young I was when we started. And I mean, so they, and then they signed me. level.

Right. I ain't seen nothing else. And also, I viewed all of them, them being like Birdman and Jew, and I viewed all of them as already in my eyes as being a kid. They were already like superstars to me. So, you know what I mean?

So my bar was set there until we moved up to, and I started noticing doing other things. But yeah, I would be lying if I said I didn't do visually. I didn't see this for myself. But there's been a lot of people. There's been kid, like, movie stars. There's been kid, rappers

sign young, but ain't nobody's 15 minutes lasted three decades like yours has. And you're like, to this day, like you can get on the stage right now and pack out. Yeah, that's your wrong. The Cowboys is about to go three decades. Yes.

I've gone three decades without a goddamn, yeah, you already know. So go ahead. I'm sorry. Go ahead. I'm sorry. Go ahead what you're saying. Man, damn, by bad. I appreciate that. But how did you deal with the spotlight? Because you've been in it forever,

like to be in it pretty much your whole life and never fold. You know what I mean? You never folded. You never withered. And that's the answer. Because I was living in my whole life. I think that's the simple and plain. You know, like being that young around those guys,

and they already established people, or established all this stuff. Every time I was even asked to just amongst one of them, you know, let me hear something. That's to me, that's a performance. You know what I mean? So I'm taking Amari. And then when I was young, like five and six, my grand, that's why I started, I must have fell in love with music.

My grandmother would make me kind of like singing, dance and stuff for her and her friends. That was a performance. You know what I mean? So stages, I'm five, six years old already got a stage in my living room with a of adults, you know what I mean? So I can't, I have to impress these adults and they're not looking for me to do something cute. You know what I mean?

And I was also young enough, but young as hell, but kind of wise enough to know that fact, to know that I know what's going to, I know what they're going to laugh at. I know what they're going to yell at. So let me go and do that. So I can go back to sleep.

You know what I mean? So what that said, when we got on stages and, you know, I mean, big stages and spotlights and all that again, starting off as a kid, you like, this is not supposed to be. You know what I mean? Like, so when do we do MTV?

So when do we do this? When do we, you know what I mean? You like that. I have to learn that as a young. I remember I had to learn that. Oh, you don't, you don't do that when you're local. I ain't know that. Just because you, as a kid, you're thinking,

I'm a rapper now. So when do we go to, when I go do cribs? When I go do, you know, I mean? Like, you like, you're like, you know, you all ain't got no nationwide deal yet, but y'all don't do that type of stuff. Yeah. Okay.

I love that. I love it. So a kid from one of the war, which ward was it in New Orleans? 17th Ward of New Orleans. It's a global icon now. What's the most, like the thing you bought for yourself that you're like most proud of. Like, I bought this. I still to this day, I'm grateful that I bought this.

I'm like, it makes me feel good to think about. Like, for me, it was my first car. I mean, my brother, we grew up. We always said we're going to get seven series beamers. Okay. And this was just paid and full. Watch your paid full growing up. Seeing them boys shine like that.

We're just like, we're going to get matching beakers. And when I got to the league, boy, I went and cashed out. It was an older beamer, but it was 745. I felt good about it, Wayne. I can't lie. As you should. As you should. For me, for me, it was, I would have to say,

it was my first truck, my first vehicle period. I had just finished, I had, I just told somebody this earlier. I was watching New Jersey Drive that just came out. Or maybe I had just seen it for the first time, but New Jersey Drive was Biggie and it was in those pathfinders and those rodeos and all that. So I went to a pat finder. So I went out of a pat finder, not a reason why, like it does a story of mine.

So I had a cousin from the country, you know, that just knew out of stickers, you know, I don't know why he'd know how he'd be not to hook speakers up. So, you know, he wanted to get cousin. He's like, you ain't got to go to no stereo shop to pay for this. I'm about to do. I got somebody hooked this up, hook speakers up from him. But, you know, they hooked up.

So he got them hanging from my ceilins. But I'm, I'm, I'm 14. So I'm like, that's hard. You know, I'm like, I'm like, I'm hanging from the ceiling? What? So we, we'd be, we'd be about to go out of town. We would always, baby, baby would always have everybody to meet up at one spot. and everybody

get on the tour buses there like a most likely like a hotel parking lot and so you know everybody's when everybody pull up and you're saying what everybody

putting up in you know what I mean people you ain't talk to him probably two weeks or whatever you're living you know what I mean

so everybody pulling and you saying oh somebody got something new so I'm like well I pulled up in that path find that with them speakers

hanging from that my cell and I'm boy baby look they say shot they come out what you got hanging from a cell

what did it's the speech I was like, I got my smile like that, be like, yeah, yeah. He like, man, said, man, man, said, man, give me your keys. That man, you know, like, send that to tunes. That was the name of the stereo show. He's like, send that to tune show. You can't be riding that like that.

I always saw my little feelings was so. You thought he got you right? When it came back, we came back home from that trip. When he came, we came back, man. I opened a trunk. They had like cash money low. Wayne and lit up, all lying green and all. I was like, oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah. The heart said that was the hardest ride. That ride made my mama make me stop going to school. She's like, you know, you got to get a sheet. Because she was like, she thought it was. She was like, you know, you don't need to go to go to school with that car. Like, you need to go ahead and get your diploma and go to college. She was like, I don't want you going to use my car.

I'm not using your car. A smart woman right there. Smart woman. She would protect her baby. Oh. That was the pat finder for me, man. Boy, cash buddy records. He had to get you right.

He looked out for you. That was good looking right there. A-sab, too. He was not ASAP. Is there anybody you always wish you could have worked with, wish you could have made a song with, made an album with that you didn't get to? That would be an artist from New Orleans.

his name. Oh, he was actually, yeah, he was one, but I forgot that he actually did, was on a nation scale with no limit. His name is Soldier Slim. Yeah, So just enough, I would have loved it did someone, soldier. Oh, man. You don't never, we don't never get the classes. I want, I just want a classic. Yeah, I already know. Are you, are you done or you never done? Is it constant forever? Yes, I'm a musician. I'm an artist, period. Like, I have my, my, life is an art form for me. So I'm going to always create

some form of fashion. It's going to always be music. The music is going to always be a part of it in a song. And I'm going to always try to do whatever I do to the best of my abilities and always believe I'm the best at it. So yeah, they're in trouble. Yeah. I mean, they've been in trouble

for a long for three decades like the Cowboys. So they're going to be they still in trouble, but I mean, sheesh. Come on, Wayne. What's next? What is next? Cardi six. Yes!

Yeah, Cardi six and the next. That's what we are with. I can't wait. Look, look. We could do the one-off of division on done when you find 15 seconds between Carter Six and your time. But I appreciate you joining me, brother.

I know you got busy things to do. It's all love. Anytime you need me, you know that. It's all. Hold on. Yo, I got to, I didn't show you already. I didn't. I forgot you thought I was last. I had to show you. I did show you that I got your feet.

So I still got to get your feet. Yeah, I got to get your feet. Yeah, I'm coming to the house when I get down there for undisputed. I'm going to come by and we get it together. Oh, love, brother. I appreciate you, brother. You have a great day. I talk to you soon. Love, and I see you in the same friend. Yep, yeah. I see you. Come on that way. Don't win this one, though. I don't want you all winning this one.

I'm about saying, I might, if I do, I might, if I might, if I might, if I might, if I might, if I might, if I might, if I might only be, if I'm not looking for you, you know, I'm not, I didn't see you and Sam, friend. I was there, though. I was there. I was there. Right. I know you there. Shout out to, shout to my bro, Kyle, too. You know, you know, Kyle, so it's all love, no matter what. You know, Kyle will make sure you take care of it, San Fran. You'll be the only green fit, Bay fan in the best seats. All love. All that's what I say is all love, no matter. I feel like at this game right here, I feel like how Mama Kelsey be with the split jerseys. I got love for both sides.

And they all got love for you. He named his son. As for you. I said, I got real love for both sides. Man, you know what Coach Matt come from anywhere. Anyway. No question. No question.

Love, brother. It's going to be a fun game. All love. Love all you. Another podcast from some SNL, late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and Friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer, Streeter Seidel, help an

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