The Herd with Colin Cowherd - The Richard Sherman Podcast - Marshawn Lynch on Seahawks Super Bowl loss, Russell Wilson & Pete Carroll

Episode Date: October 12, 2022

Richard Sherman interviews his former Seattle Seahawks teammate Marshawn Lynch and Marshawn opens up like never before on Russell Wilson's infamous goal line interception to Malcolm Butler in Super Bo...wl 49 against Tom Brady & the New England Patriots. The former Seahawks discuss their relationships with head coach Pete Carroll & quarterback Russell Wilson. Beast Mode shares stories about the BeastQuake run, partying after the Super Bowl win & Super Bowl loss, and when Black Panther director Ryan Coogler got him ejected from a high school football game in Oakland. And, of course, Richard Sherman asks Marshawn one more time: "What are you doing for Christmas?" #Volume #Herd #ColinCowherdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:29 Gambling problem, call 1-800 gambler. The volume. Welcome to the Richard Sherman podcast. We back at it again with my guy, Sean, Money Lynch, Beast Mode, all that stuff. First of all, welcome to the Thursday night football family. They say you're going to be joining us every week with a feature called Enyo City, starting this Thursday in Chicago's. Tell us what you up to.
Starting point is 00:02:57 Yeah, well, man, you know, realistically, I got bored, so you feel me. I'm in a holiday at my people. You know, I'm talking about. You got bored. I say, man, look. I say, man, look, check it out. I like, you know, moving around a little bit. Is it a way, you feel me?
Starting point is 00:03:12 We could do something to put me in the mix. I said, well, what you're thinking? I'm like, man, where the cities that you're going to for these Thursday nights? I mean, I like them. I've been there before. Is it some type of way we could make something happen? They say, yeah, what you're thinking? Say, man, let's put something together where, you know, you put something out there.
Starting point is 00:03:29 I'm in your city. And what I do is I just, you know, I pull up to the city, man. and I see what the city got to offer. You feel me? What was some of your, you know, ideas for city suggesting versus their ideas? Because I know they wasn't letting you just do what you want to do. So, I mean, I'm going to tell you like this. I see a city like Atlanta.
Starting point is 00:03:46 And then I'm like, all right, well, look, Atlanta, no. You feel, me, though? You know, it'd be a lot of booty meat out there, you know, he ain't, you know, cheeks clapping out. Man, let me pull up into the, to the strip club or something because they also have great food. So, you feel me? Let me do a food tasting in the strip clubs.
Starting point is 00:04:06 And, you know, we could get a rating on who got the best wings. You feel what I'm talking about, all of you time? Who got the best wings in Atlanta? Yeah. You feel me? Come on, man. I mean, you know they got solid food like that, though. I mean, my boy Lou Wildrod jumped out the bubble.
Starting point is 00:04:23 Made sure he got some wings now. But I'm just saying, though, see, if it'll put you at risk like that, then you know it's official. Right. It ain't just gonna jump out and try to go get any old wings, though. To take that risk, you know they gotta be them ones though. No question. What else you've been up to?
Starting point is 00:04:41 What else you've been up to? I know you keeping yourself busy. Yeah, man, well, you know, realistically, what I've been up to, man, is a side we're putting together this situation with the Amazon thing. You know, I'm still heavy with all my businesses, you know, elevating. I put some time in to one of the high schools, out here, how I've been actually staying active is. I've been padding up.
Starting point is 00:05:08 Sean, I know you ain't out there trying to hurt these kids. No, I ain't trying to hurt them, though, but I'm just, I mean, because I can't talk right that, you feel me? I'm better at just doing it rather than trying to explain it to people. So I feel like, you know, when I put the pads on with these kids, they understand where I'm coming from a little better than me just telling them how to. Right, right, right. Well, stop going pole drill with the kids.
Starting point is 00:05:29 You like a moving car. And I know you still ain't got no abs in the world, but these kids don't understand. Wide body. Right. Like a buickless saber or so. Hey, man, I'm telling you we're foes on that mug. No question. Fishbowl.
Starting point is 00:05:47 You and a fishbow, oh, God. We got to talk about your football playing career. People want to know what you was thinking. When you was to tote in the rock, you know, you got the beast quake. They want to know if you gave all the, all the reliance of Rolexes like they were saying. or did you just, you know what? It wasn't no Rolexes, but I mean, I will tell you this. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:06:07 You know, I wouldn't know jewelry dude like that, you feel me, though? But what I do know is it was some, these Gucci watches. The Gucci watches was going platinum at the time. And I think I think I did throw out. Ooh, shit. Yeah, I did throw them out for sure. Right, I was looking at them. I didn't get out one.
Starting point is 00:06:28 I was like, I thought I was, you know, man. I was blocking on the sideline. I was blocking on the sideline, and I was on my way, bro. He was there. What happened? He said, I was blocking on the side. You know what everybody in their name Mama was blocking on that play? Because for show, my fat-ass shouldn't have got in there.
Starting point is 00:06:49 Right. Every time you run it, I'll be sitting there like, do they really know what he looked like under them pads? Because they wouldn't be just letting you just... Hey, boss, I'm waiting for you niggins to come and tackle me. Right. The more you niggas ain't tackling me, the longer I got to run, the more I'm going to get tired, the more I'm going to be mad.
Starting point is 00:07:05 Right. Well, I remember in Arizona, you was tired and running and stiff on them. And I said, Sean, if you don't get out. Hey, and back tight. Back tight. Hey, back tight. You out there feeling like Mike Tyson. Right.
Starting point is 00:07:22 Spinal. On my mouth. Me and feeling I felt everything he was saying when he said, that shit, bro, I felt that to the core. Like, boy, I, hey, I know what you mean. My back, boy, but now, you know, I don't know. Maybe I'll probably cut some, cut some weight since I ain't, you know. You ain't, you ain't cut no weight.
Starting point is 00:07:44 You ain't got no. You just ain't lifting no weights. No, not. You know what? I'm not lifting no weights like how I used to lift some weights. But I'm putting, I still got to put them up, put them down, bro. Because you feel me? I, they out here, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:07:58 You still just got to make sure you keep yourself. of right. Right, right. Well, you missed the game, are you good? You don't miss it? You don't think about it because we was on some pretty good teams. And, you know what I mean? Let you say, you don't miss playing with us.
Starting point is 00:08:09 And I, like I said, I'm swinging on you when I see you anyway. So I guess I don't just add to it. I don't miss playing football in that type of, you see, to that capacity. But, I mean, you know, I'm a competitor. I'm an athlete. So, of course, you feel me. I miss playing football. But I've been able to, you know, I'm saying, scratch that itch when I go out here and get down with these kids and shit.
Starting point is 00:08:35 So that's always a blessing. And that's how I get my fix because I ain't allowed for a minute. Like, you know, I tried to, when I really stepped away from the game before I had came back the first time, it was like, I ain't, I didn't do nothing athletically, like nothing. And my body started feeling like, you know what I mean, like my chemical imbalance wasn't right. And I'm like, damn, like, what the hell wrong with my shit? Like, you feel me? It ain't like it hurt, but it ain't, yeah, something wasn't right. And I'm like, bro, I went out there and I just happened to go to the high school and get down with the kids.
Starting point is 00:09:16 And I'm like, damn, my body feel hella good. Not only do my body feel good. My presence, like, everything about, I'm like, oh, I need that. Right. I missed, like, something inside of me, like, I need to bang. And I'm like, oh, shit, okay. So then I just, now it's to the point where I know when I start feeling like that, I need to go hit something.
Starting point is 00:09:39 So, you know, I pad up and then, shit, we could be here at the house. And it just me and my cousins, hey, come on, let's throw these pads on. Let's see what's in it. I bet they ain't tired of putting a pads on with your way. I know it. No, I mean, you know, because, you know, everybody ex-affir. Everybody, you feel me, still got them dreams. So, you know, they're trying to one-up me on God.
Starting point is 00:10:01 I'm mad at that. So you miss it a little bit. How you feel about us getting remembered? You know, our time in Seattle, our teams, you know, people argue it's the best team in this decade. You know, they write, obviously. I forgot what I was talking to, yeah. But for Seattle, I ain't gonna lie to you, bro, like, you know, that's probably one of the biggest blessings in my life. And then the biggest blessing in my life was them not giving me the rock.
Starting point is 00:10:30 I ain't even gonna lie to you. Right. Because Sean, they would have saw the real you. That's the big... Ah, niggia. Hey, no, they just would have been, they probably just wouldn't have accepted where I was coming from. At the end of the day, they had to accept it on the, on the, on the, on the simple fact that it's a lot of possibilities about that situation. But the thing is what they did for me in Seattle. And I'm saying that what they did, like as far as the fans and everything, how devastating and heartbroken they was, they always remember, like, I've had situations and plays down there on the goal line where, you know, things didn't go right.
Starting point is 00:11:18 But the thing is, nine times out of ten, if you give me the ball in that situation, I'm not. I'm just saying down by the goal line, period. We coming away with something. You feel what I'm saying? Shine going to make a way. Like, how shit. I feel like he's going to make a way like how LaRussel make away with the damn backyard boogie.
Starting point is 00:11:39 You understand me? Shine going to make a way. Yes, sir. I think it was more so just, you know, them not seeing me get the opportunity to at least try. Right. They felt it. They seen how, you feel me? They seen how I move.
Starting point is 00:11:55 And it wasn't on no, you know what I mean? I want to be the star, the team, I want to be flashy. I want to, blah, nah, it was just, nigger, come on, let's go to work. We gotta do something to win. All right, cool. It's up. It's up. Let's rock.
Starting point is 00:12:11 And then them not being able to see me at least get the opportunity to try that. I think that was like why they empathize with me to the point where it's like, damn, bruh, if they would have just gave you that ball, because, I mean, you, you just, you No, what, it's what, seven, eight years later or something like that? Yeah. Bro, the number one, motherfuckers, don't say what's up to me, like, hey, what's up, Marshang?
Starting point is 00:12:34 Or what's up, B. And be like, why they didn't get you the ball on the wall? Hey, why you didn't get the ball on the up? Oh, man, that nigga Pete Carroll and all that, Belford when them niggas was tripping, like, you feel me? I ain't, like, hey, Marshaw, how you doing? Like, no, hey, bud, why they didn't give you the ball? Like, that's 100%, like, till this day.
Starting point is 00:12:54 Right. They asked me that. And I wasn't even involved in a play. I was just a reaction because I could not believe. Hey, you probably was the, you know what? I didn't seen that reaction twice. Somebody just sent me the picture, bro. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:13:09 I ain't even going to say somebody, bro. Somebody sent me the picture, bro, from the Super Bowl when it happened. And then they sent me a video, a picture of a video from this, what was it? The last week, day. This game? Oh, my God. I tweeted it. Look, Sean.
Starting point is 00:13:29 Oh, there was you, that, that tweeted it. Sean. Did you see it? I see your reaction, bro. You tweaking, brad. No. Did you see the play? But you always been on blood head, though.
Starting point is 00:13:42 So, man, it didn't even, I'm not even going to say it rub me the wrong way. It was more so, like, I wouldn't expect nothing different. But the thing was, I'm like, you know, it's hell of long ago. You feel me? No, it's almost as painful as if that was the play. It was yesterday. Right. As if it was, if that was the last play that you just seen in football. Right.
Starting point is 00:14:05 Like, no matter what, and then the thing about it is for what I say, what it did for me in Seattle, but what that shit do for me in any football country, like, no matter where I go, bro, if it's a football fan and they recognize Beastmo, Marshawn Lynch, the Seahawks, that shit. That's what they could. Hey, I just got one question. I didn't give you that ball. But shot. Let's shot. Imagine if they would have gave it to you, what your love would have been throughout the world. Then you would have been Super Bowl MVP. We'd be sitting up there with your
Starting point is 00:14:39 bottle of privilege and having a blast. You know, to Wednesday. That was pure white. That was pure white. Oh, you would have got the pure white? Who brought you to pure white? You would only get the pure white in certain places. Yeah, man. That was courtesy of Uncle Dee, man. Oh, man. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all,
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Starting point is 00:17:28 See terms at sportsbook. com. Gambling problem? Call 1800 gambler. So what's your relationship now with Beat? Like, yeah, you didn't have to reconcile. You didn't came back. Your left came back again.
Starting point is 00:17:39 Look, I ain't going to lie to you. Like, when I was there, we had a situation where we was misunderstood with each other. Right. Because what he needed, I couldn't give him and what he wanted he couldn't get
Starting point is 00:17:54 right and that's a that's a recipe for disaster but at the end of the day at the end of the day our end go was the same right and for whatever reason
Starting point is 00:18:09 we couldn't get on the same on the same page the same level and you know just when I went back up there to go you know with that run with them through the playoffs. You know, I kind of told him like, bro, I don't know how you do this,
Starting point is 00:18:23 bro, even till this day, like me coming back here after so many years of being gone, after so many years of playing with you like, because, you know, I sneak in and out of the building at random-ass times when I'm probably not supposed to be there. Right. And I see this dude walking around the facility.
Starting point is 00:18:39 I'm like, nigga, you was just walking around like this at practice. Right. Every day, every fucking minute of the time that you, I don't know if he can do, turn something off when he go home. But anytime I seen him outside of that building, I mean, inside that building, he always is the same individual. And I could not understand that. Like, blood, you don't have no bad day. Like, what's you off? Like, I thought brother was off hell of drugs or something. Like,
Starting point is 00:19:08 you got to be popping something, snorting some. You feel me, though. Some, you got to be doing something in order to. He's 70 years old, Sean. He can't snort, sniff. No. Hey, bro. And what's bad is, you feel me, when I went up there to the game, I went up there to a game, bro. And blood was out there on the, uh,
Starting point is 00:19:27 on the field, bro, with the same gloves, them same big ass, them shoes, bro. And he got this gum, and he talked about some, huh, you're going to catch it like, hell no, I ain't going to catch it.
Starting point is 00:19:41 You still, bro, like, yeah, he, he, the only way I could see him going is on the field, bro, at this point of time. Like, but I told him, bro, like, you know, regardless to however our relationship was when I was there, like, bro, I respect you because I've watched you get individuals who,
Starting point is 00:20:03 you know what I mean, who probably didn't even think that they had an opportunity in this league, go turn up and get a bag like, nigger that was a first round draft pick. And to me, bro, that's special, bro. Right. That's special. But I mean, you know. He's a special individual. It just took a while, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:20:23 You're so transparent and so one way, like, you see through everything. Like, you keep it a buck 100% of the time. And it was just a different environment, different way he approached it. That's why I used to always tell you. I was like, bro, Sean, that's just who he is, bro. He's going to be like that. And look, and that's why I meant, like, he wanted something that he couldn't get. And you feel me like,
Starting point is 00:20:44 because you know he wanted me to be on that height. Like, then he wanted me to drink that Kool-A. But I was telling him like, nigga, my cup already full, bro. I'm a crack baby from the town. Like, nigga, I come already high octane. Like, I'm already there, bro.
Starting point is 00:21:01 I just don't, I just don't put it out there until it's time to go. Except when you're throwing up before the game. And then that's all over the story. That's what's because I had too much out. I'm telling you I'm riding high post shit like this. I'm riding turbo, you feel me? I'm riding turbo, not turtow.
Starting point is 00:21:18 But at the end of the day, it was more so like, I see where you coming from. I'm like, I'm already there, though. Like, anything more that I do right now, that's going to become a problem, bro. So just let me, like, just let me kick back. Like, how can you, no, like, how can you be so kicked back? And then just, just ready to go. Like, I understand what it take for me to get. get my body ready to go from Sunday to Sunday.
Starting point is 00:21:44 Right. Like, that's a lot. So, you know what I mean? Just let me get right. You know what I mean? So what was the, what was the wildest night for you? Was it when we won or when we lost? Because both of them was wild.
Starting point is 00:21:59 The one we lost. Yeah, I bet you did. That's enough. That's all you got to do. Don't go ahead. Don't say that you. Mwah. Wow.
Starting point is 00:22:08 Wow. Shut out, bam, cam. Bam, bam. Man, wah-w-wah. Wow. Yeah, man. Yeah, it was the one we lost, bro. Look, look, Sean,
Starting point is 00:22:20 Hall of Famers. And, Sean, I feel like you're a Hall of Famer. You ain't going to argue that you ain't a Hall of Fame or you be talking about you and don't care about it. Yada of y'all. You care. At this point, bro. At this point, bro.
Starting point is 00:22:32 Look, I'm saying, at this point, bro, regardless to what come out of that, Hall of Fame, no Hall of Fame. when I go outside as long as I go outside and they still say to me no matter where I'm at no matter what team
Starting point is 00:22:50 somebody cheering for no matter what jersey they got on individuals say to me damn why they didn't give you that man I'm shit that I mean because shit this Hall of Fame individuals don't
Starting point is 00:23:06 nobody know right His Hall of Fame individuals don't nobody know, wouldn't even think twice about this, that, and the third. But forever, though, but forever. And then that was a good-ass game, too. It was a good game. What did you think of your boy? Right now, because he on a struggle bus.
Starting point is 00:23:27 Man, I want to reach out to dog, bro, because I mean. They'll reach out to it. You know it ain't that. You know it ain't. Man, come on, if I can't, if I, if I can't call you direct, nigga, then I ain't calling you, especially, nigger, if I don't went to war with you. But I do, man, because you feel me, the backlash that bro just got, like, and I know he, one of them heady guys, bro, is more so, like, I just want to, you know, I just want to tap in
Starting point is 00:23:54 with him, make sure that, you feel me, though, that dog solid, though, because, man, at the end of the day, like, I mean, I understand what this football shit is, but you feel me, I want to make sure a dog straight in his, in his mind, though, and don't let that. that shit overshadow, like, you know what I mean? Because at the end of the day, bro, you still a Super Bowl quarterback. You feel me? You know, you got a beautiful family, all the shit. But you know, motherfuckers been going off the deep end with how they been, how they been thinking.
Starting point is 00:24:23 And that's the last thing I would want, you feel, me on dog plate because he lost a couple games. Well, Sean, when they give you 245, they don't expect a load. Yeah, you got to, you got to do that. I'm not going to, you feel me? You know, Sean ain't gonna sugar-coach shit. You gotta do that for the mob, though, ASAP. And I mean, you know, if anything, you feel me, like, you gotta, you gotta go get your bag. Like, you like, let Russell say, nigga, go get that bag.
Starting point is 00:24:50 Right, go get that bag. You gotta go get that bag, man, you feel me, but, I mean, I ain't gonna lie though, bro. Like, the way that things ended there, like, you feel me, like, damn, I know for a fact, like, I don't know, I know it's a lot of Seahawking. A lot of Seahawk individuals. Like, man, I don't want to see. Like, I don't want to see this dude. You feel me, though, succeed in Seattle.
Starting point is 00:25:15 Like, they didn't want to see that because it's like, you know what I mean? We was a team. And the way that it was portrayed was as if it wasn't. So you feel me by him, you know, being in that situation, not succeeding there and then leaving Seattle because I ain't going to lie. I really thought that dog was going to retire a Seahawk. Like, that was the only thing. way. He couldn't. He couldn't. He couldn't. He was in the shadow. He was in the shadow.
Starting point is 00:25:41 They said it was Sean. They said it was the Legion of Boom. He said he got to do it by itself. Hey man, fuck that. You, I, bro, you got to take that on the chin because they're going to say a lot of shit. And then they're saying what they're saying about you right now. But right, you know what I said I want to reach out to him because I mean, you know how I feel it's like right now they're looking at him as a black sheep. And look, though, if there's anybody who knows something about that with being in a league, bro, is me. You feel me? I didn't, I'm been to the bottom of this lead before where motherfuckers done counted you out and talk bad on you and motherfuckers don't write him off all this type of time and all that.
Starting point is 00:26:16 But, you know what I mean? Now that he ain't in no Seahawk uniform, like, I'm pulling for him. Like, yeah, go BCC. Hey, man, go do all that, bro. Hey, go run it up on him. Man, you got your bag. You feel me. Go do all that in Denver.
Starting point is 00:26:32 But, no, I ain't on hold you. I ain't want to see it in Seattle for sure, for sure. show. But then even when I had came back, it's like, all right, I got to put all that to the side. And now it's more so like, all right, come on. Now, let's go do something that we should have done before. Right. But I mean, you know, I'm that type of individual, bro. It was ingredients missing, John. It was ingredients missing from that, you know, from that soup. From that gumbo. Right. You know what I mean? That would have really put that spice on it. That rule, that rule. That rule wasn't right, man. You got to get that rule. You got to get that rule. Got to make that root
Starting point is 00:27:05 writing that gumbo, man, and it just wasn't there, though. It wouldn't. It wasn't. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year.
Starting point is 00:27:28 Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what I'm saying. Yep, that's me, CliverTaylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media.
Starting point is 00:27:53 Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment, and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast. It's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told,
Starting point is 00:28:24 and for people who are chasing something bigger. So, if you've ever supported me or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right what you need to be. Listen to the Clifford show on the IHeard radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. Do you remember when Diana Ross
Starting point is 00:28:44 double-tap Little Kim's boobs at the VMAs? Or when Kanye said that George Bush didn't like black people. I know what you're thinking. What the hell does George Bush got to do with Little Kim? Well, you can find out on the Look Back at it podcast. I'm Sam Jek. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick it here, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it.
Starting point is 00:29:04 Including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill, waxing all about crack in the 80s. To be clear, 84's big to me, not just because of crack. I'm down to talk about crack all day, but just so y'all know. I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack, so I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have AIDS on the table right now, so. Thank you for finishing that sentence. Yes.
Starting point is 00:29:29 I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Really? Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So, okay. All right, enough football. We didn't talk to enough football.
Starting point is 00:29:47 Ryan Cougler. They say you've known him since you was a baby, Sean. Man, Ryan Cougler out of pocket, man. What do you? Because he ain't put you in no movie? No, hell no, man. When we was in high school, dog got me kicked out of the game.
Starting point is 00:30:04 We played in high school, my junior year, bro. How did he get you kicked out the game? Good, bro, started, you feel me? First of all, bro, was holding you. He was holding you. On the mile, bro. I ain't seen a man yet that can hold you that when you don't want to be here. I was at receiver, so you feel me?
Starting point is 00:30:20 I was outside with it. You feel me, though? I was outside with it getting active. Brut, held the shit out of me, bro. All type of shit. So you feel me? I'm like, tell a referee, like, hey, bro, like, you ain't just see, bro, hold me? Like, oh, play football.
Starting point is 00:30:36 I told them, all right, but look, they had threw a flag on me earlier. So when I told the referee, like, hey, man, like, you don't see, broodding me? Like, man, just play football. I'm like, nigga, man, you knicks always fucking with me. Do the flag on me, bro. Through the flag on me. So then you feel me now? What the fuck you throw the flag for?
Starting point is 00:30:57 for, bro. And Coog laughing, though, like a motherfucker. Cool, laughing, you feel me? And, hold on, bro. So now I'm, you feel me? I'm trying to charge the referee up. You're tight. I'm trying to charge the referee up, bro.
Starting point is 00:31:10 He then, oh, he kicked out of his game and he can't play next week. Oh, we start a league next week, bro. You, ah, they, 42 fake me. 42. 42 fake me. But, no, you feel me? Like, man, I did this little thing within our, uh, Within our area, though, you feel me?
Starting point is 00:31:29 I'm from North Oakland, straight up, Ice City, represented phone hunting. But look, check this out. Within our little maybe five-mile, maybe eight-mile radius of North Oakland, you got, you got Ryan Couglar come out of there. You got Andre Ward come out of there. You got Leon Pohl come out of there. You got Ricky Henderson that come out of there. You got Mr. Fab come out of there.
Starting point is 00:32:01 Fabi Davis, Jr. And I know I'm missing, you feel me, though. I know I'm missing a few more. But I'm saying on a grand scheme of thing, you got Kug, too, on a grand scheme of things right there, like, we are like champions. You got a boxer, you got Kug on another level with this directing shit, Fab, platinum artists,
Starting point is 00:32:27 All the shit. Ricky Henderson, Hall of Fame, Leon Poe, NBA champion. Marshall Lynch, all decade team, about to be Hall of Fame. I mean,
Starting point is 00:32:40 I'm saying, but I'm saying for my section, like, right there with, and we all within like a, maybe it's an eight-mile stretch and I might be giving us too much. Right.
Starting point is 00:32:51 But that's just in one section of the town, though, you feel me? That's crazy. And I was just like, damn, bro, I looked at that shit and I was like, bro, you feel me?
Starting point is 00:32:59 Like, we really got something coming about that and we probably the smallest section in the town too, though. And I mean, with the gingerification shit,
Starting point is 00:33:09 you feel I mean, it's probably even smaller than that now. That's special. Yeah, it is. I mean, you know, you get, I mean, shit,
Starting point is 00:33:17 you know, where you from, shit, you got plenty of motherfuckers coming up out of there, but I'm just saying. And you, you part of California Hall of Fame
Starting point is 00:33:24 now, high school Hall of Fame. I know they sent you the email. No. Well, you're on the list. I'll send it to you. Well, look, I do know this. I do know I'm going into the Cal Hall of Fame.
Starting point is 00:33:35 Well, you're you California High School, Kyle, NFL, like, you make it a ball, Sean. Las Vegas. What's the name? The bowl game. I got the trophy in there right now, boy. Why are you still a trophy, Sean? Shit, they get it. It's supposed to be at Kyle.
Starting point is 00:33:55 What you're doing today? Bro, they gave it to me, bro, I ain't going to lie. I got one from, I got a, bro, I ain't going to lie. I don't think I was supposed to take this trophy. You could not be able to. We played down in San Diego at the Pacific. Holiday Bowl. What?
Starting point is 00:34:09 Look, bro, they're talking about, oh, yeah, offensive player of the game or some shit like that, right? And they gave it to the quarterback first, or was it the quarterback? Or it might have been DJ. Yeah, they gave it for A-Rod. No, not A-Rod. It was a long-shoe. It was either Longshore or a DJ. They bet not they gave it the long-shore.
Starting point is 00:34:26 I would have sworn one. Longshore. A longshore to not get no awards. One way or another, bro. I end up with a trophy, right? But I got the trophy and I took that motherfucker over to my mama, bro. She took it home. I gave mom the trophy on the, uh.
Starting point is 00:34:43 Boy, you feel me, I slid through the house, looked like, Mama, where this trophy come from? She's like, boy, you gave that to me and San Diego. I said, y'all don't stole the people, ugh, trope, because I think that's supposed to go back to them so they can put in the Hey, shout off San Diego, man. I fuck with Daego, man. Come on. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:07 Daego are functions with you. Remember that year y'all was supposed to go to the Natty when y'all had A-Rod and they said, man, you're supposed to at least go to the Rose Bowl that year. They figured when S.E went to the Natty and A-Rod played S.C. and went 23 for 24, striking. And on the last play of the game. was when he got his first incompletion. And then, you know, just a little side note on that, man. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:35:33 I had a tug in that game as a freshman. As a young, as a young. Long-lived DG, man. But, yeah, I'm looking at that situation. I'm like, bro, we was really out there active. We was activated. Eden. You feel me, though?
Starting point is 00:35:50 And, you know, I think to pull that off. And then what happened is at the top of the route, the receiver slipped. And the thing is, blood got hands. He got hands. He clutched. That was what he did, though.
Starting point is 00:36:04 You feel me? Wasn't flash. He wasn't hella fast. Just crass. He's going to go get that ball for show. And he slipped on that thing. But that was a solid little moment for me, too. Yeah, y'all was.
Starting point is 00:36:18 To play with A-Rod. Right. I mean, that was one of the best teams in college football history, really. I mean, you go back and look. Y'all had some, boy. What? Because I mean, shit, I was, I damn there rush for a, I damn near rush for a bandika. And then, uh, JJ had had two of them things. So, you feel me?
Starting point is 00:36:38 I, my freshman year, I was behind a, a, a, a, a, a, a thousand yard rush and just trying to, trying to, trying to figure my way out through that thing, trying to, trying to, trying to wiggle my way into a little situation. And, you know, I mean, I had a, I had a, I had a, I had a great mentor in college without even knowing it. Because JJ, I ain't gonna say he was, it wasn't that he was hard on me, but JJ was already, JJ was already in the league. Right. You feel me? He's like, man, this kind of shit, I got this. I know I got this.
Starting point is 00:37:08 You feel me? He stuck to himself, but he kept his head down and he grind and I'm like, okay, this, oh, this how you're supposed to do it. Right. You feel me? But little did I know I was picking up on what the OG was putting down, even though he wasn't saying nothing. So then it really put me in a mind.
Starting point is 00:37:25 in the mindset of like, okay, you ain't got to talk about it, be about it. But I mean, you know, all the way from Pop Warner from, you feel me though, from Lily, Coach Parker, that was our saying, don't talk about it, be about it. Don't talk about it, be about it, be about it, just do it. And you feel me, I mean, if you look at it, you know, throughout, you know, our individual between me, Marcus and Josh, look, Josh, Josh, Josh, over there. That's what I'm saying, but the thing is, you feel me, put his head down and he ground. And then you feel me, Marcus, you're going to look at his situation like, you feel me coming back off his injury, like, you know, I mean, put his head down and he grind.
Starting point is 00:38:03 He's going to do a little bit of, he's going to do a little bit of talking, too, but he's going for sure do what he need to do. No question. Well, what's you doing for Christmas this year? This is going to be my last question. Hey, but hold on, man, before you go and you hit me with the Christmas, brother. Somebody saying me this, though. Hey, hey, remember that one time where number 25 got, got. I got burned by a, my, uh.
Starting point is 00:38:32 I say, man, I say, brother, I don't even, I don't even think people probably be able to understand, like, the level of accountability that each and every one of us held to each other, bro, on a level of this ain't about football, bro. No. Because, man, little do they know, like, bro, like, me, what I, your kids, I call your kid, that's Paw Paul Babies, you feel, me, though. Your wife, that's sis,
Starting point is 00:38:59 your mama, that's my mama, yo pops, where OG pops at? Big, bro, just called, check in on me. They was going to your games when I wasn't even playing. Bro, let me tell you though.
Starting point is 00:39:10 Look, man, you know I don't bring family business outside, bro. You know I don't. Bro, we're going to go play Miami and when I came back for the writers, bro. And my mama, like, man, give me a plane ticket.
Starting point is 00:39:22 I'm going to go to the game. I'm like, all right. She like To Seattle To Seattle I had to tell mama Man hell no
Starting point is 00:39:35 What you mean You're trying to go see these niggas Mama do you forgot I got a game Oh well you know Mama I'm a bed Mama time Man she
Starting point is 00:39:44 Running down the whole Woo-wop I'm Man hell no Mama I ain't buying you no ticket To go see these niggas Play when I got a game
Starting point is 00:39:52 Like Bro mom Bram behind y'all, bro. My mama was at your game. Somehow made it on the field. I said, what are you doing at Sean in Oakland? Because you know, I'm the other other son.
Starting point is 00:40:08 We're Doug. They know what time it is. Like, you feel me? But that's the type of, that's the type of love that I'm talking about. Like, bro, I got, I got all our moms in a group chat, bro. I'm talking to the whole squad, bro. The whole squad, bro. I got the moms in a group chat, bro.
Starting point is 00:40:26 And every now and then I just tap in with them to, you feel me, though, to let them know that I, hey, I'm always thinking about, you feel me, though, my families that I haven't met, you know, through this journey, bro. And I mean, you know, I try to keep, you know, I try to keep up with him. Shout out Tee, too, bro, but you feel me? Like, that's what I'm saying. That type of time, bro, like we really. Yeah, brother. Like, we really built something that was, you know, above and beyond. And that's why it's so hard because it was separate.
Starting point is 00:41:00 And that's why you can't hit him on his line right now. And that's why I kind of, you know, but that's a story for a different day. We ain't got enough time. I got to let you get home. But I will say, though, like, man, I do want to tap in with blood just to make sure that, you feel me. He's not letting this shit affect him in that other way. Yeah, he's strong. But I think, you know, you, and you know what we all believe that, bro, because I thought I was strong, you feel me?
Starting point is 00:41:23 but I ain't on line. I had my moments to where I got to sit back, reflect to make me, you feel, me, though, get a reset. You feel me, though? And then, I mean, you know, just I'm going to put this out there before we get off of here, blood, like, you feel me? If you're my brother and I don't called you, brother, through this league shit, bro, like, don't ever hesitate to hit my phone just to, you feel me, though, tap in,
Starting point is 00:41:44 whether you feeling right or you think that I'm not feeling right, bro, but we probably need to start doing that more often, especially with the way that, you know what I mean? Like, me, dude, me, playing in league, bro, I didn't lost maybe like, you know, four or five teammates and then just individuals who I've played against as well as that, like, you know what I mean? Motherfuckers got to tap in with each other to, you know, I mean, to check on niggas' mentals. Like, I was, I was serious about that shit when I said that, you know, take care
Starting point is 00:42:13 of your body, take care of your mentals. And at the same time, take care of your chicken. I was, I was for real about that shit, bro. So, man, but, hey, I respect you, bro. letting me come on your issue, man. I'm glad to be a part of the Thursday night crew, bro. And I know at some point in time, they're going to bring me on live. I don't know how that's going to work.
Starting point is 00:42:33 I told him not to. I don't know how that's going to work, but... It ain't careful. You know, you might want to just let me do this pre-recorded shit. I told him, give you a 10-second delay and get the beep button ready. Yes, law. And it ain't no disrespect. No, ain't no disrespect.
Starting point is 00:42:52 He's keeping it yonisness. Acacacompo. When you're keeping it a buck. I ain't mad at you. Go on here, Africa. See, look, man, they gave you a bad rap because you went to Stanford, but I don't give a fuck.
Starting point is 00:43:07 Like, I told you, you were one of the smartest individuals I ever done had a conversation with my guy. I appreciate you, African, and I always get you to love and respect you. You deserve. And I'm going to keep telling them because they don't understand what you're doing.
Starting point is 00:43:20 I wish we could have sat here and talk through your business acumen and all the things you're doing for the community and all the deals you're making. I'm telling you, Beast Mode Network. Like, hey, boys ain't got no phone network for themselves. Like, but you're doing so much that boys ain't never even thought to ever qualify to do.
Starting point is 00:43:36 Like, but I appreciate you joining me, brother. Where are you going, France, you said? Germany. Germany. See, this is what I'm saying, Sean. It's this stuff. And you didn't invite me, but whatever, see. See, look, you've got to go to work.
Starting point is 00:43:51 You're supposed to be at work with me I mean you know I got a different kind of schedule though You feel my schedule you a little bit different though You feel me My schedule you a little bit flexible You know what I'm talking about Well send me some pictures from Germany
Starting point is 00:44:06 Man you know that's up team That's up for show bro All right brother Yes love you I appreciate it love you too nigga I love you too nigga Another podcast from some S&L late night comedy guy
Starting point is 00:44:41 Not quite Unhumored me with Robert Smygel and Friends, me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, S&L's Mikey Day and head writer, Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes.
Starting point is 00:44:59 Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and Friends on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all,
Starting point is 00:45:22 embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:45:41 Yep, that's me, Cliford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, my basketball and college football journey, or my career in sports media. Well, now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfilled conversations with athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. So let's get to it. Listen to The Clifford Show on the IHeard Radio app, Apple Podcast,
Starting point is 00:46:07 or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok. Podcast Network on TikTok. This is an IHeart podcast. Guaranteed human.

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