The Herd with Colin Cowherd - The Richard Sherman Podcast - Michael Irvin on Dallas Cowboys' Super Bowl chances, Seahawks, Zach Wilson

Episode Date: November 23, 2022

Richard Sherman interviews Hall of Fame WR Michael Irvin and the two debate which running back should be used more for the Dallas Cowboys between Tony Pollard or Ezekiel Elliott, where the Cowboys stack up in the NFC compared to the Eagles, Seahawks, Vikings & Giants, how Geno Smith landed in the perfect spot with the Seattle Seahawks, if Zach Wilson is the right QB for the New York Jets, and the breakups between Tyreek Hill & Patrick Mahomes and Aaron Rodgers & Davante Adams. #volume #herd #colincowherdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Gambling problem. Call 1800 gambler. The volume. Well, I appreciate you coming on with me. Man, I, man. Anytime, come on, man. You know, like anytime for you, brother. I appreciate it.

I see you do on Thursday night, too. I'm trying. Yeah. Yeah, but you be you. As long as you're doing you, I can't, can nobody, it's like Mr. tells me and said, man, listen, can't nobody say you did anything wrong as long as you doing you. And that's all you know.

Right. And they don't know. And they don't know you like you. You know what I mean? So just do you, man. And that, it has to work. It got to work. And that's all I know.

Because that's all it is. I tell people that. me like that's the new list, man. Don't try to change me. Because see, you can leave me, joker. I can't leave me. I got to learn to live with me. You can get tired of Michael and say, I'm out of here.

Michael can leave Michael. Why am I trying to please you? I got to take care of me. You're stupid. I'm saying. That's real talk now. It is. It is.

It is. You go crazy trying to be somebody else. And they'll go crazy trying to make you somebody else when the tide's going to change. So, man, and it's so funny. It's all the people. that many came to this. And there are always the people that get opportunities.

You know, you get opportunities. Well, you know, and when you plan, he talked too much, he didn't see that. Hey, you want a job? You know, you're going to be perfect for this job. So, yeah, it all works. Well, your cowboys, look at them now. No.

They didn't feel, look, I ain't going to lie. After they lost the Green Bay in the three or seven Green Bay Packers, I had a lot of concerns. And then they come out there and beat Kirk Cousers and the boys this way past Thursday. I said, okay. Now, listen, as I said it down, first taking all of it, man. And I started on my podcast. I started on my pocket.

Let's say, get this right now. Right now, that game they played the other day was as close to what I would call a perfect play game as you can get. You saw the power of the run game inside the red zone where it's mostly you saw the explosiveness with people like Tony Poller. That that got to, you saw the intelligence of that controlling the line of scrimmage and making plays from that spot. And this was an incredible thing because I was so disappointed, sir, with what I saw last week. And I don't know if people understand the depth of what we saw last week. Last week, I saw a team that was up by 14. Up by 14.

Now, this is the worst thing you can do. I think that's football league. You're up by 14 and you let a team catch you in the fourth quarter running the football. No, no, no. Running the football. They're supposed to be helping you running the football. This is clock being gone. And you still lose that game.

That's the word. That's why the worst loss. It's the worst. But you bounce back with this game. That's pretty impressive. And also, it's mind-recking. Why the hell can you do that? How can you do that?

And then it's not a green bay. Right. How do you lose the Green Bay? That's the part that blows my mind. In Minnesota, it's things green Bay out. Right. You know what I'm saying? Right.

Something about beginning of year, and we'll do it again when they meet. So that blows my mind. I've been telling people this since the season began. I said Tony Pollard, got to replace Zeke as the full-timeback. Like, Zeke can come in there and pound and ground, do what Zeke has done. But if you're giving him the ball more times

than you're giving Tony Pollard, then you're doing your team of disservice. Both of them are vital in this sense. I'm going to tell you something. I wouldn't trade the physicalness of a football team. That year, y'all won the Super Bowl. Y'all won not because of the razzle-dous, not because of the explosiveness.

You won because you were damn. I ain't giving up physical for nobody. It's the most important ingredient in a national football league. You ought to be, because you've got to pass every grade to win the championship. So even if you are an explosive team, some physical team going to challenge you and say, all right, we can't do all that dazzle around. But we're about to bust your butts in the mouth. Let me hit you.

I'm going to see how you get. When I hit your ass right in the mouth, you got to have physicals. And I'm going to tell you, that's why I say, I don't have an issue with Zee starting. I want to start the game physical. I want to start the game physical. I want you to know we will tear your ass up. They're going to explode all over you. And they're in the physical.

And I wouldn't want to put Pollard in and break down the structure of the leadership for the Dallas Cowboys. Remember that and Zee came in together. So right now, they're a structure in the leadership and everything goes. to them in that locker room, pulling power away from Zich, and pull power away from his ability to lead. You don't mess with the structure of leadership. They're still getting the same amount of reps.

I hear you. But if you tell me, one is averaging 2.80 carry and one averaging six a carry, I hear everything else. But one of them got to get the ball more. I don't understand how you justify. And I love Zique to death. Zieg is a good human being,

great family, great person. But one of them is more. more effective right now as a runner and a receiver. So he had a whole different element. That boy, that boy had a 60-yard touchdown receiving the ball. Right, right, right. All the things that are pertinent to our idea, I like to tell people, you know, so we such reach us with all five of my senses always working.

We want to touch, you know, want to taste, want to smell. We want to hear. But the most important thing is always our eye gate. And I'm going to tell you, I got three eyes in my name, two in my head, all five of my eyes. don't see that it's better for this team to start Pollard over Z. All five of my eyes don't see that. I want them to be explosive.

I want them to be all that you're talking about. But do it under the framework that we're going to be physical. We had a moderate. We were explosive. We were explosive as I don't know what last year. But boy, when the San Francisco 49th tooked their physical asses up in AT&T Stadium, they put a stop to all of them. In this game, the number one ingredient is physical,

and I like to start with that each week. I'm sorry. I just, I just, I'm a guarantee you straight. Tony Pollock got 118 carries this season. Yeah. 701 yards. 5.9 and carried 57 long, six touchdowns. Zeke has 120-fold carries.

485, 6 touchdowns. 27 long. That's it. I own. Right. And let me see what I'm telling you about the I gate, how it also gives us such pleasure, but it also shows you some things you don't see.

Let me show what I mean now. Now, all the Igate material, those runs and those numbers, that's all you're talking about with Tony and Paula. But I don't see you talking about Tony and Paula. Stand it up, and I'm not putting Tony Powell down. I'm just insuring the greatness of Zeke in these categories. I don't see us talking about Tony and Paula standing up and stepping up right in the midst of a blitz and stopping a man cold in his track.

You see, since we don't see this and it's not a touchdown or our yard or a football in the hands, we discount this most important thing. And if I allow too many people hit the quarterback, I don't care how great Tony and Paula running. We ain't going to do anything. So we got to protect that and all of that. And nobody talks about that. and Paul is getting better at that. But if you put them back there, the most physical team, they're going to blitz them and say, let's see what you can do.

They're going to stop you from putting them out in those rocks, and they're going to blitz everybody and see how he can handle that. And you know this, sir. You can't call for these yo-k kid don't. That's what they would do. That's what I would do. That's why Zeke has to be back. But if I know Zeke is not a threat in the past game,

and right now he is not a threat. He got 37 receiving yards on the season. Pollard had a 68-yard catch last week. Yeah. Like, then I'm going to blitz you anyway. Like, I know he ain't called. That wouldn't be correct. That wouldn't be totally true now.

Sometimes you can drop in, have tubes, and people believe it and bite it as a whole apple. But that's not totally true. So when you say he's not totally effective in the past day. Oh, he's effective in the passing day, but he's just not as explosive as Tony Palmer. But he's effective in the past day because he can catch the past. How many past you take off?

30-7 out of the? No, no, no. He got 37 years. on the Z. On the Zid's 7 yards, how many of the past ago? Zika's called him in the NFL. So he's effective in the past again.

He's not just explosive in the past again. We got to make sure that we don't allow certain words that change the whole meaning of things to change the whole meaning of what we're talking about. I understand. I appreciate that. Well, one thing we're going to agree on is this defense of Dan Quinn. And what they got going.

They, that's Michael Parsons is legitimate. And Trey Diggs is legitimate now. Right, right, dog, but now listen, I felt, let's see here again. What do we come back on? Oh my God, God, thank you, Father. Thank you for always laying it back home like that. That's what was revelatory gift she gives me.

It calls it out the ether, just things to pop up and they eat. Boom, boom, boom. It's used this, use this, use, and you. Throw this out of it. And I said, okay, thank you, God, thank you, father. Here again, that defense is great as it is, and it is great. It is great. What shut it down the last couple of weeks?

Suzzle from that. They ran right at it. Physicalness. Don't sit here and ask me to give up physicalness when I'm telling you it shuts down everything. Physicalness. That's what beat our defense the last couple of weeks. They got hit in the mouth with some physicalness, gave a back-to-back 200-yard game. Oh, yeah, you think they were worried about the toilet Pollard? They didn't get to the quarterback before we get the power of Tony Pollard. But when they got hit in the mouth, in the mouth, thank you for.

for that. On the other side, it came down the pipe. Billisup for this is the number one product in this game. Don't ask me to give it up. It's the number one product in this game. I mean, you ain't wrong. You're not wrong. No, I'm not wrong. I'm absolutely Matthew Mark, looking and John in it. I'm giving you the gospel of it.

This is what it is. And we saw it with that deep, great of that defense was something. or the last two teams that were physical winning, put it on. Put it on them. That's the key. I'm telling y'all, we got it with, well, I hope they don't fall for that yokey, dokey. I hope they don't fall for it. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encouraged.

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Really? Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I mean, it's tough to stop the ball, run in this league. You know what I mean? You either got one or other. You either got pass rushers or run stoppers.

You rarely got both. Right. Right. And even the Philadelphia Eagles, who was undefeated and world beaters. You know the Washington Reds here? Washington, Washington commanders, my apologies. They said, they were physical wear. And that, you know what?

That was so cool because that week showed me everything. I said, okay, even now don't get back. Get back this now. Also now. Also, watch commanders did the Philadelphia. Now, now, now, now. Now, also, that same week, remember, the Jets did it to the bill. The Jets said, we're going to be physical.

We're going to beat you all about being physical. And if the Chief didn't have God himself playing quarterback, it would have been a Tennessee titan did it to the Chief. All of those things you all talking about being explosive. They got a taste of physicalness and they wilted under the heat. And the only team that won was God himself. And that's Patrick Mahoney. And it took all of his miracles and all of his, all of his angels

to win that game against Pennessy because they came in and they were physical. I'm not giving up that commodity in the national football league. You would have two rings. If you held on, if they all held on, the one I'm telling you right now, you would have had another ring

because of the day to stay with the physical in and stop trying to give it something to have another ring. Well, talk about my old team. You just went to Germany and talked to them, but they got out physical to a little bit that game. You know, hey, that boy, Vita and Tampa Bay Buccaneers were not letting anything run on that field that day. And that's exactly, and they put it in Gino's hand.

And it was hard. It was hard for Gino. I'm going to say, though, man, I'm proud of Gino in the way he's played, man. I'm so proud of Gino. I was around, you know, when he first got in, man. And it's hard to do this thing in New York. You know, look at one of the young Jackson Wilson going through right now. Because everybody's on top of you in New York.

I told him, I said, Gino. I said, man, I told him you're playing so great. I said, but look how far you and I got away from New York. I said, you went as far as you go. He said, I saw you saying that. I was like, yeah, because that's the truth. You got to wait, but people get respect you and people enjoy you. And people, when you're walking around in the streets, people are saying,

we appreciate that game. Way to play, way to play. In New York, you walk around. You're bum. You're nothing. You're a bum. You know what I'm saying. It's hard, man.

It's hard. But I'm happy for Jim. Me too, man. He tried to bring him back. You know, came out there, slaying Don's in the second half. Some beautiful touchdowns. He didn't throw any, he didn't throw no interceptions. Like, he's going to get an MVP vote this year.

I know he's going to get an MVP both this year. It's going to be beautiful, man. And then he's going to get him a nice little deal. You're going to get him a nice little deal. And you always like to see it. It is time. He was patient. And now he comes back up.

You can pull for somebody like that. You know what I mean? You want to pull for him. So I hope it works out for me. I do, too, man. I'm cheering for him all. all the way. I hope he get a pro bowl. I think he deserves all his, his flowers this year. But speaking of Zach Wilson, man, I couldn't believe that boy the other day. I could not believe

him in that press conference. I said, come on now, kid. I don't know if somebody, and I don't know if they would, why they would not, but somebody, they should have somebody there. That's such a tough situation for a 23-year-old kid to handle it. And the BAP is expected to handle it in such a way that he sets a tone for all of us to understand. He's just 23. I would have to have to say, somebody there to talk to him like, listen, they're going to ask you these questions.

What do you say? Stick to this group. Just stick to a list. We all got to play better. That starts with me. Well, I understand that, but we all have to play better. And that starts with me.

Don't come off that script. Don't come off. You know, do not come off of it, man. And he came off of him. And he came off. But even sauce, the rookie, the corner. It's sitting there like, hey, that's a bad, but he said, hey, this is on me. I got to play better.

I got to make a play when the play need to be made. This is on me. You are a rookie. This is a rookie corner doing this. And I put it all in perspective now with killing young Jack Wilson and all of that and rightfully so for how he handled it, rightfully so he deserves it. I already interjected that he's a young man. And the reality is they're six and four.

Ain't nobody expected it just to be six and four. But I like seeing what I'm seeing with the just that they're saying six and four ain't good enough. We got to beat out with Chuck. Chuck was that dude that I grew up with. You know, 12, third grade, man, we had some, we were selling now layers. Me and my boy, Bernard.

We're selling now ladies a kid boy, we make a big profit off knowledge. Back then, you could buy a nine days. They had like six pieces of now ladies in them with candors. You go to school. where they were shipping us off. That when they first started busting the brothers out. You know, I'm six.

I born a six, six, we're 702 right now. You know, we're just starting to integrate. So me and my enterprising young business, brother, man. Yes, sir. I'm going to take some knowledge over here that I can buy over here. Because I was family then watching us, like over there where I'm going to school. Like the white kid says, can he put out of that kid. I get candy.

So I had a booming business. I was selling now. Chuck was the bully. Chuck was the bully. Everybody was scared of Chuck. Chuck looked at us, say, when we get y'all, me and Bernard, we cut into our nowlayer business.

We put all kinds of nailers in his ship. Don't beat us up. Chuck bullied us from, I don't know, first day and third, fourth grade, all of this year cutting into my business. I was in about the fourth fifth grade. I said, Bernard, we got enough enough. Enough enough.

We got to face chuck. We got the face chuck. We ain't giving up no more his business. We got a face chuck. And we faced Chuck and I won. And I won. It took them in four to five years, but I finally faced Chuck and I won.

And I was fortunate. And it just has to beat their damn Chuck. See, the Patriots have been there Chuck. And when you lose the Chuck like that, everybody's all upset. I thought we were ready to face Chuck. And Chuck beat us both times this year. So it takes down everything you've accomplished this year.

So I understand the temperature was rising. I wanted young Jack Wilson to know that, yeah, I'm in this with my boys, man. We had an opportunity to beat that team. They did I score touchdown. I got to play better. It starts with me. But it starts to tear at the fabric of that locker room. When he not only not take responsibility, like if he bawled out and threw for 400 playmaker

and they lost and he said, hey, do I feel like I let them down? No, I didn't let them down. I threw for 400 and four touchdown. Like, we all got to play better, but they just ain't on me. Then, you know, everybody be sitting there like, well, I mean, what we're talking about? That's true. This is the truth. But when the opposite is true and you're walking around there like you're super 400 and you're super 77, that's the worst thing you could do.

That's the worst thing you do. And then boys are sitting there looking at you like, hey, bro, like, come on now. Right. You know what I like in that too? And I just try to tell you, I don't receive it. Like they ask me, Mike, man, he asks you going up and down on the sideline, man, what determine is that? I said, listen to, dude, the first thing. Number one thing, before you can run over there and say anything,

you got to make sure you do it something. Now, now if I'm bawling, let's go. What's going on? Let's go. Now, I'm asking everybody, come on, man, play with me. Let's go play with me. Let's go. Let's go get because we can do this. But if I ain't bawling, ain't doing that, and I come over here, now I'm saying, dude, y'all go play and study me because I ain't doing that. And ain't nobody going to listen to that.

Ain't nobody don't listen to that. It was a dude, what the hell are you doing? Come on, man. Get out and sit out with all that noise. You know what I'm saying? So it's a different way, man, that you got to handle. But we always, we lament, we ordain, we give that leadership to every quarterback when everybody's not built to lead like that.

That's the whole issue that we have in the national football league. Every quarterback ain't built to lead like that. No, every quarterback ain't. And you give him to see, you give him all this. the responsibility, give them all in his power. And it's like, everybody's like, oh, they voted for him. I'm like, you know, you kind of got to get a quarterback to see all your questions are coming up.

Are you saying we ain't got no chance? We don't even believe in our own quarterback. How we expect y'all ever take any of it? That's what it says, sir. And I'm glad you brought down because nobody ever said that while he was voted. Yes, we got you. We got to put it out. Let's start playing.

We try. We try to make it. We do what it's supposed to do. Right. You're right. And we know it's got to be, yeah, that's funny, buddy. Nobody tells that truth. Nobody says the truth.

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I'm so great. Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me, Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions,

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Because I'm sitting there like, hey, you might play black, old, you might play white because they're going to give you 300. They're going to spread the ball out to all these playmaking receivers, and y'all going to play good defense. You're going to have a chance. But this kid right here throwing 77 yards saying it ain't on me, it's on them. Yeah. That's a hard decision because what is today may not,

is definitely not going to be the possibility of being your tomorrow. So I always say, okay, do you put in like a flag coat And you win a few games right now But are you delaying The delaying the inevitable Soon is going to fall Or do you deal with the pain on the front of it And try to give a young guy

With all of this young great talent you have Look at what Indy did Don't call into this thing And Indy did Kept trying to recycle old guys And they're letting a nice nucleus they had get away. But by this time,

they could have grown a young quarterback or put somebody with that young group and had an opportunity to do something. Now Frank Wright's gone. Your Saturday got the job.

You know, I was talking about number one team on TV today. If somebody, the Eagles, over the Capitol, that's how the Eagles, I know,

I know Dallas lost to Green Bay. That is one of the greatest quarterback to ever play the game over that playing quarterback. But the Eagles, After looting to the commander, they almost lost to Indy, to Indy. They won that game by one point.

Jeff Saturday, a baby at coach. If you talk to him and get too close, you can smell his breast, feel smells like Simulat, Baby at Milk, because he's a baby head coach. And he almost beat you with a baby head coach with a breast metal like Sima lap. So get out of here talking about day to top tip. I don't want to hear that. And they go back to your first point, Playmaker, because they got that Jonathan Taylor boy

and they ran the ball down. They were physical. They ran the ball. They ran the ball. They got their throws. Don't, let's get physical. That's the whole key in football, man. They were.

I just don't know because I just, with this jet situation, I just don't, I feel like because if you get in this situation, you're growing pains with this kid, you had a chance to make the playoff. He's going to throw you out of the playoffs. He's going, you're going to die on this source.

So you went from a really talented, good story to like, really, you stuck with this kid even though you saw it. No, no, what you do, you stick with them and give them the lessons he needs now. Next year when you get Breece Hall back, ain't nobody talking about the Breece Hall. Brief Hall is the key component of their jet team.

Now, now, Bruce Hall makes Zach Wilson look like, oh, we can do something with this. He'll make. So, Breeze Hall, that juggle, bang, that joke. And when they lost Breast, that hurt him. Even though they still found a good run game, but I can't wait to give him back. but you still got to find out what's the ceiling.

This kid is young. He's talented. If you can get him anywhere up in the strategy where he's not so close to the floor or floating in Midway or floating somewhere towards his ceiling, then you got to win. I feel you. I'm looking at the tape.

It's receivers open. He's hitting his back foot and he's not letting it go. So it's not even something where you're sitting there like it's pressure in his face. O' line ain't blocking. The receiver's not open. Are they dropping the ball? I want to come up with something for him.

But these receivers looking at him. That ball got thrown behind. He looked there like, what was that? And you could tell when it was like, like, dude, what was that, man? I ain't trying for that kid. Hey, man, ain't try for this crazy stuff, man. Come on, man, what are we doing out here?

And I'm telling the receiver, you know. I felt that too, man. Once they get there, it's all. It's hard. It's hard to get that back, especially on that slant route. Dude, if I can't trust you on the slant, dude. Hey, I. This thing got to be over.

It's over. So, yeah, I don't say cut out on him yet. I'm going to still ride this way in it. Okay. Well, new. But I'm going to teach him some leadership skills. I want to teach some leadership skills. I want to teach him how to talk that every time.

Because, see, I love the fight in him. I love to see people with fight. I just sometimes, and I hate to learn this about myself, because, you know, I'm a fighter, but I had to learn to know it's great to fight and be a fighter, but no win and who the fight is even better. Wait a minute, you know. So he was stepping up.

He was fighting the media and trying to, because the media getting on him now, and all this is time for him to go. So he's trying to stand up and be bravado instead of fighting for his players. Instead of fighting for, He's fighting the media instead of fighting for the players. And a lot of fight, I just want him to direct me in the better place.

Yeah, you got to find that better. But Christmas Eve, play, man. Philadelphia Eagles playing Dallas Cowboys. Yeah, they're going to see. What we predicted in that now? Listen, I already know. I already know what it is. I really was hoping that Eagles could be, have enough to come back and win that game.

Christmas Eve and then we see them in the playoff. You know, it's hard to beat the team three times. I was looking at all that. But now I ain't worried about it. I ain't worried about it. Cowboys would beat them Christmas Eve and then come back and get them in the playoff. That Cowboys come get them.

What I saw yesterday, that game plan, if you can execute that game plan, we're not even talking about a contest here. If they can execute that game plan, because Cowboys took a step, Michael Gallup yesterday. He called two slant routes, two quick slans, you know what I'm saying? Call him in his hands right in the face of that pressure,

what I call of that quick slant pressure. Because, dude, I try to tell people, man, listen. Running the slant route, there's pressure, even if the dude ain't right up on you. You know he's some damn where. He's somewhere, and he's about to hit you soon. This is a quick, bang, bang, play. It's coming.

You know what I'm saying? So in order to catch balls like that, in your hand that says something to me as a receipt that says something. He's coming out injury that says he dropped this shield now. I'm ready. I'm all the way back because he won't be able to focus on kicking that in his hand, worried about somebody down by his knee or the pressure of somebody being in front of him. Sir, you notice you know this, you're in a corner, you notice that your body has naturally

defense mechanism. If I put my head towards your face, your eyes won't blake, even if you tell him not to blake. So when you run that slant, your body, you put the hands up, your body's going to tighten up. Even if you shall embrace, your body naturally has the defense mechanism. And that's why they drop balls go through the hand so they don't have time to close it on the ball. Or the ball hits the hand and fall right out because there's no gear because of the tension. That's why I ultimately move to catching that ball in my body on slant route because I knew even him in my mouth. I said I'm going to run a first down slant to take it to the house, second down.

But the third down son will get him to the house. on my body. You know, I had to think through all of these things. To take out my natural body defense. That's what I had to do. He caught that ball in his hands, dude. I was like, that says something to me. It sounds like they ready. Now they're ready. Philly got some corners now.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, feeling got stuff. I don't like blood up with a rich boy out there. Oh, with big play? But I told, I told just to jump, too, like, man, why didn't you, when he was sitting on you so much. Dude, run through his butt a couple times. I'm going to run through him, dog. I'm going to run through. You ain't finished just sitting a rocking chair on me. If my ride is 15, I'm going to 16. And you're a rocking chair on 16. I'm going to

17. He'll coming through you before I cut out. You see what I'm saying? He never did that. Just Jefferson never did that. I wanted him to try it. Just go through it. Go through him. Go through him. He has to recalibrate and he has to recalculate, recalibrate his own body position to shift in all the position. just sitting there and he's just in a rocket ship, you give him all an advantage. I was going to go through him. That's just me. Yeah, it's just you.

Hey, playmaker, you might have some coaching in your future. Just, you know what I mean? You might have to go in there as a consultant. Right, right. He'll go through that gentleman. He'll back up one time. It's just go full speed, right on the outside shoulder. I don't want you to hit it right in the middle because we want

to apply laws of inertia, which says a moving object, get it a still object, give it about the same way that size will move. to spill object every time. You 200, he's 200. You're not going to hit him middle man, though 200, even though the laws of inertia say you'll win. We still going to hit them.

Half man, 200 or your 100. You're going to even spin, back up, but you have to recalibrate. It's too late on the call this football. Right, and now I'm caught in a move. And I'm moving. It's too late. Whatever you're doing back there, it's too late.

I'm mad at that. I'm excited for this season. It's been a crazy season already. It's been a crazy season, though. Doc, we had a question I want to ask you this, sir. Yes. We had a question there on the show. And I thought it was a hell of a question and said something.

It said, who are you more impressive with? What this young man that's been bawling out forever over there in Kansas City of the patronage of all this, Doc, or what this young man that has taken all of his talents to South Beach and created in the Miami Dolphers, Tyreek Hill has done, which is more impressive. You got to be in Miami. you know, because I don't know. I don't know if it's because I'm biased a little bit, but we didn't see Patrick Mahon do this.

Right, right, right, right. Everybody keeps talking about he loses number one. No, Pellas Kelsey's always been his number one. Right. Tyreek Hill's been his number two. It's the most explosive number two. And in his career was the number two. Right.

He still got his security blanket right there and 87. Dog. But what Tyreek Hill has done to go to a new. Really? It's, dude, every team is looking for that free agent that can do that in his team, to that team. It's insane. He out there playing like Randy Moss except he five, ten.

Like, they thought it as far and as high as they can. Right. And he just like, all right, over two people, over one person. I take it. Whatever. And then that's what I said. And now got them believe. See, that's been.

See, Patrick Mahomes didn't have to convince all those guys. Every new guy that came on support, we got to do our part. We know this system work. They do what they've been successful around here for a long time. Tyreek Hill took a new head coach, a quarterback that nobody believed, can't really do it, and got them believing in all lovely. Well, we're going to best team in the NFL. And that's from the wide receiver position, a guy that spoke to touch the ball eight to ten times.

It's just, it's a phenomenal problem. And he spoke it into existence. this all season. Like, he was sitting there saying two of the most accurate. He put the best deep ball. Like, and people were calling him crazy. I was calling him crazy.

Like, crazy. You leave him, Patrick, my home saying this. Right, right. Right, right. Right. And then you're getting the season and you're showing you believe in him. He's showing it.

Oh, my God. It's cool. Exactly. It's crazy to watch, though. It is crazy to watch. That's what you say. So many crazy things that are happening in season, those kind of things I think about.

That's insane. And insane on the other side. You see, What Green Bay is, why would you let Devonty out of the... I got old people about this, too, because they all were talking about, you know, now Green Bay always come and talking about, well, we offer more money. I say, stop it, stop it. Because I tell these dudes, always coming out after the fact, right?

And they get everybody in TV to say that. The reality is, after you bruise my ego and you know what I receive is how emotional we all are, the cornerbacks sometimes, you know, so y'all going to be talking to me any kind of day I Wade when I've been in here for the last two years trying to get my money. And now it's all to see somebody else willing to give it to me. Y'all going to step up and give it to me. And I like, well, you were willing to give you the money. No, Joker, you didn't believe in me.

So I can't take your money because now it makes me feel of myself sort. Why would I stay with somebody that didn't believe in me for a dollar? I ain't on the corner. You got to get on the corner and do that. I do my real. You see what I'm saying? Yes. So that's what I'm telling.

So they want a discount. that dude, I said, dude, you grew up, you should have cultivated that relationship the right way. Don't come back after putting this man on franchise tag one year or two years, whatever, and then come back. So we think the world are you, well, why we didn't come to that conclusion before? It's too late now. That's all I do. It's too late.

It's too late. And then I got a chance to play for my hometown team. Team, I grew up watching. I get to go back to the West Coast, to the time zone I want to be in. I'm going to be in Vegas. Like, y'all going to have to be in. And like, y'all gonna have to convince, y'all have to go over and beyond.

Yeah, you're right. Hey, no, no, no. Y'all knew who damn Green Bay. You don't know how cold did. You shouldn't even taking me through that. Like, I'm going to fight to stay in this cold weather. You should have. Your first tears you had, you should have locked me up longer the first time.

Nah, I got to go. That didn't nobody talking about that. And now people are like, what's wrong with Greenback? They lost all pro receiver. They lost the best of the National Football League. And the chemistry that him and Arod had is you can't even qualify that. It can't even qualify, though. And then boys will be playing a two-man game like they got dang Shaq and Kobe

and beating everybody. Going to the NFC championship almost every other year. 13 wins, 13, 13, 13, 13 went three years in a row. I said this last year when I watched them, I said, I got to do it. I never did it. But I finally have to do it. I said, man, watching these two, I never thought I was saying to myself that I'm going to put somebody on the sacred ground of Joe Montana and Jared Rice. I never set another combination up there on Joe Montana and Jerry Rice's level because we've seen them do such insane thing.

But these group, that group belonged up there for what they were doing. They belonged up there. And why you tear that apart? I talk all the time. I can't figure that one out. That's a lose, lose, trade. Both sides, low. Yeah, both sides long.

And I guarantee you both sides, when they put toothbrush the tooth and in the morning, or they lay down and put head to pillow at night, they said, what the hell did we do? Both of them say, what the hell did we do? Why?

Why did we do that? I guarantee you. No question. Playmaker, it's an honor. It's a pleasure. We're going to have to do this again. I'm going to have to jump on your podcast. Absolutely, sir. I would love to do that, sir.

Because I just, man, I love chatting with you, man. I always found you intelligent, you're smart, you see things. I feel you when I was talking through that natural space, how you're always, you know what me, you're taking all kinds of information. So you're saying, man, as long as you're doing that, always knowing you're looking for information and figuring out things and always willing to try to help somebody and give it to somebody, man, you'll be around a long time. Keep doing what you're doing, brother.

I really appreciate that. anytime you need me for anything, please. You got my number. Don't feel free to, don't hesitate. I will do that, man. You know, I love you, man. Keep doing your work, man. Keep doing it up. I love you too, brother.

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