The Herd with Colin Cowherd - The Richard Sherman Podcast - NFC & AFC Championships Reaction: 49ers-Eagles, Bengals-Chiefs, "awful" NFL playoff officiating

Episode Date: January 30, 2023

Richard Sherman reacts to the San Francisco 49ers losing to the Philadelphia Eagles in the NFC Championship, along with the Kansas City Chiefs defeating the Cincinnati Bengals in the AFC Championship.... Richard calls out the NFL's playoff officiating and blasts the refs for missed calls that decided who advanced to the Super Bowl. Richard also gives his take on the future for the 49ers' QB position – will San Francisco bring back Brock Purdy, or should they see if Tom Brady is interested in playing for the Niners? #volume #herdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:21 Welcome back to the Richard Sherman podcast. My goodness, Mitchell. Super Bowl? We got the Super Bowl, Rich. It's not the finalist that you wanted. I know that. Let's start. with that game in Philly, a beatdown of the 49ers, of the very fragile 49ers. I don't even
Starting point is 00:02:40 know what we call this game. I mean, talk to me, Rich. Well, what we're going to call it is the refs. You know, we're going to call the refs. This is the refs Super Bowl. The refs got involved, way too involved in both games. In this first game, SF had 11 penalties. Philly only had four and crucial penalties. It's drive-sustaining penalties. And the next game, they had drive-sustaining penalties. It just wasn't the way you want a playoff game called. Now, the Eagles earned it. The Eagles earned the win. Obviously, it's hard to get a win in San Francisco.
Starting point is 00:03:10 If your third string quarterback who's been seven and O goes down, and then your fourth string quarterback goes down. And then your third string quarterback who can't throw anymore, has to come back in. Then your running back has to throw the ball. So it was just a set of unforeseen circumstances, but Philly took advantage of it the way they have to. They won the championship and they made it to the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:03:31 Well, you got it. you got to, you know, take your hat off to them. I think Philly is a deserving, you know, participant in the Super Bowl. But I will say the true losers in today's viewing party were the fans, Rich. I mean, first series, Brock Purdy goes out. You know, this game immediately changes. And what we thought the game would be between two juggernauts, turns in between a journeyman, Josh Johnson, you know, I know he's new to the system, whatnot.
Starting point is 00:03:57 But, I mean, he's not going to give him too much of a fighting chance against you. elite in this league and unfortunately play after play drive after drive was just coming up empty rich yeah i mean it's the game started with a first down that shouldn't have been on a fourth and three an incomplete pass that was obviously incomplete at the time you could see it by the reaction of the receiver when he got up devontay smith got up panicking and like hey hurry up let's just hurry up run to play and and clearly you know in any other situation you at least call a time out to say hey take a Look at this. You know, for some reason, we're acting like timeouts are invaluable.
Starting point is 00:04:34 You know, they're, oh my God, we got to save them for what? They use the timeout there. It's a really important part of the game. Let's see what happened. I'll see why he's panicking. Let's take another look at that. But they didn't. And they got to give a touchdown on that drive when it would have been a turnover on downs.
Starting point is 00:04:47 That's the seven-point swing right there. Then you have the really curious play of blocking Hazan Reddick with a tight-in on the first deep developing route that you run. He's second in the league in sacks behind Nichol. John Bosa, and I don't think you would block Nicholas John Bosa with a tight end. And they, for some reason, blocked him with a tight end. And of course, he beats the tight end and gets a sack that not only forces a fumble, but puts your quarterback out for the game.
Starting point is 00:05:12 So that was one of those, it was bad. It was bad. And then it got worse. And you're just like scratching your head. Like, why? Why block him like that? Why not slide to him? Chipp him?
Starting point is 00:05:22 Do something. You know this is deep developing. Like, I would think there's more to it. But those were two huge plays. Hassan Reddick played an unbelievable. game, had two stacks in the game, two huge plays. But that's why I didn't feel like a crazy win for Philly. I mean, Jaylon Hertz had 15, was 15 for 25 or 121 yards, ran it 11 times for 39 yards. Miles Sanders had 11 rushes for 42 yards and two touchdowns. But it just didn't feel
Starting point is 00:05:49 like Philly was in control a lot of that ball game until obviously both quarterbacks go out injured. And then it's like, yeah, there's not much you can do. So, you know, it'll be, it'll be a cool Super Bowl matchup. The NFL playoffs are here. If your team's in, it's going to be fun. But what if you could actually be at the game? That'd be fun. For last minute, amazing deals on tickets to your favorite NFL team.
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Starting point is 00:09:12 Listen to The Clifford show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. Well, Rich, to your point, you know, obviously the emotions of in the game, right? I mean, Purdy goes down. Philly, obviously, you know, looking at it, like you said, that was not a catch-up by Devante Smith. They were the beneficiaries of a touchdown on that drive. And then their second scoring drive, it was penalty after penalty, after penalty on the San Francisco defense that, you know, some of them, justifiably so, some of them, a little bit of a head scratch, Rich. But I want to bring you on the sideline. If you're still
Starting point is 00:09:57 playing, how does injuries to key positions like the quarterback position affect your mindset, you know, with the rest of the game, being it on the first possession of the game, are you guys still locked in mentally or is there a little bit of defeat creeping up? No, I mean, guys are still locked in. I mean, they've done it all year long, you know, they've overcome all year long. They lost their first string, quarterback, second string and quarterback, now lost the third string, and they've responded well every single time. So I think guys still played hard, you know,
Starting point is 00:10:27 but a lot of those ticky tax, the illegal contact penalty on Charverry's Ward was very ticky tack. There was a pass interference on Jimmy Ward that you really don't call in the playoffs. He jammed AJ Brown up. He couldn't get off the jam, so he decided to spin and then spins.
Starting point is 00:10:42 And then Jimmy almost intercepts the past. It's just, it was just one of those games that looked really controversial the entire game where you're like, hey, like, is this the playoffs? Or are we in the preseason? Like, you don't call these calls.
Starting point is 00:10:54 But yeah, I wasn't a fan of that. you know, obviously, you know, a team with the quarterback is going to get to the Super Bowl in that situation just didn't feel like a championship should. Sure. Well, Richard, what? There's a lot of question marks going into the next season for the Niners. You know, this team has got to answer a big one at the quarterback position. I know we liked what we saw with Brock down the stretch, but is he the guy going forward
Starting point is 00:11:17 in the next season or are you taking a peek at other options like Tom Brady? I don't think anybody's taking a peek at Tom Brady, not on this side. I think they'll go with Brock Purdy to start the season. Obviously, they'll treat Tray Lance like a starter as well and get him prepared because obviously they're going to need multiple quarterbacks. They got to figure out what they're going to do at the right tackle position. Mike McGlenshy is a free agent and maybe they'll try to bring him back or maybe they go another direction at that position. That's a huge question mark. They got to pay Bosa. So, you know, there's some things that need to be done this off season. But it was just an unfortunate way
Starting point is 00:11:53 things happen. Even so, you would have loved to see the game finished with the third string quarterback, at least him healthy and having a shot without him having a shot. It is a bad culmination thing. Like you said, it leaves a bad taste in your mouth. And not to take anything away from, you know, our friend of the program, there is big play Slay. I know you got to be happy for him. I know you probably, it's good to see this Eagles team get a chance to go forward and win it all. But like you said, Rich, not the type of game that you would expect between these two elites.
Starting point is 00:12:26 But Richard, let's transition to the AFC. Kansas City Chiefs playing an Arrowhead, as a lot of people calling it Burrowhead this week, against Joe Burrow and the Cincinnati Bengals. And this is another game. Came down to the wire. Big, big penalty call at the end. Huge blunder by Joseph Osai at the end there,
Starting point is 00:12:47 which I'm sure he's beating himself up bad. Richard, your thoughts on this game. It just felt again. weird. It felt like one-sided in terms of penalties. The Bengals had nine penalties for 71 yards. And again, crucial penalties. There was a play where they gave them an extra third down where they said, hey, they were blowing a ball dead because of the clock was supposed to stop. And they blew the clock dead after they didn't get the first down. Like, it was really weird. Then they give them another third down. And of course, on that third down, they give them a penalty. They gets him a first down.
Starting point is 00:13:19 It just was, it didn't feel right. And again, the refs should not be involved in championship games. It shouldn't be involved in playoffs in general. You shouldn't be talking about the refs when you get to the playoffs. It should be like, hey, man, this was an incredible play. Hey, man, this was an incredible play. This guy made a heck of a play. But instead, we're sitting here and talking about, hey, what was that call?
Starting point is 00:13:39 Like, hey, what happened there? And there were two mishholding calls on that same play. So it's like, hey, like, they held two players and no call. And then, of course, you make the call where Burroughs gets pushed out of bounds. But if you make the holding calls, then they negate each other and you replay the downs. And you just hate to see games decided like that. You know, it doesn't feel as earned. I hate the way it happened.
Starting point is 00:14:04 I'm not a fan of the way the league let this one go down. You know, none of them refs. I can't say none of them, but, you know, those refs should not have a playoff game again, both for both games. Yeah, Rich, again, I mean, just watching. this game from my own couch, understanding, you know, how much is on the line, I'm with you. You could see on numerous of those plays that you're referring to holding or, I mean, just tic-tac calls that could have go both ways, but you're just going to let them go. Most importantly was a Mike Hilton PI call at the end, you know, wrapping around,
Starting point is 00:14:37 it was against Baldos Scantling. You see that play every given Sunday in every game and it's not called. And even the commentator said, we don't call that. You know, you look for a lot more aggressive motion and swinging the body around than just having your right arm around his hip. I mean, and those regular season calls, that's going to piss a lot of fans off. Yeah, and it deserves me. I mean, it just doesn't make sense. And, you know, I mean, the league is the league and it's going to be a huge moneymaker and they're going to have a Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:15:11 But it just, it just taints the game. It taints the way you view it and consume it. Kansas City, I'm sure is happy. Philly fans, I'm sure are happy. You know, their teams are going on. They benefited from the way the games are called, and that's cool. You know, nothing against those teams, but these refs called a horrible game and two games. And if you're a casual football fan, not a fan of either team, then you're being objective,
Starting point is 00:15:33 you're like, oh, man, this is kind of, it leaves a bad taste of your mouth. You know, I'm sure it doesn't change anything for those guys. Like you said, Big Play Slay gets to a Super Bowl. James Bradbury goes from cut to a Super Bowl team. Dendalmikensu gets to another Super Bowl. Linvale Joseph gets to one, you know, so it's great for a lot of guys who've been working their butts off to get to a Super Bowl and you're really excited for them.
Starting point is 00:15:56 You just hate for the refs to be such a big storyline and they were the storyline in both games. Obviously, it would have been hard for San Francisco to win even in a perfectly called game with both quarterbacks going down, but at least you wanted to be called clean. Like you wanted to be called fair or just, hey, you know, in the playoffs, you swallow your whistle and let them play. You don't just blow your whistle on one team
Starting point is 00:16:18 and then the other team you swallow your whistle because then that looks obvious. Richard, you've played in a lot of NFL games. You as a competitor, have you ever known a play that you benefited from that you shouldn't have? Is that a wrong?
Starting point is 00:16:31 That's a fucking terrible question, aren't? How am I trying to ask this fucking question right now? I know. Benefits, man. I want the word beneficiaryed to be a guy. Beneficiated. Let's copy right it down because that's what we're going to say.
Starting point is 00:16:47 A terrible officiating call. Any team benefiting from the officials is going to be like, hey, man, they're going to get beneficiary over there. A lot of beneficiary of a bullshit call. The only one I could think of is the fell merry where gold and caught it, didn't catch it against Green Bay. And that was the replacement refs. So you're like, yeah, well, that's why.
Starting point is 00:17:08 And then after that, they brought the real refs back. But these ones felt like replacement refs. You're like, some of those calls, you're like, the Buffalo Wild Wings call in to stop the game and to get involved because that didn't look like a pass and offense. That didn't look like a holding. And then the plays that look like a holding, you're like, oh, that's a holding right there.
Starting point is 00:17:26 And you're like, oh, you guys aren't calling that right there in front of the quarterback while he's swimming. Like, it's not going to call that. And it just, it just so easy. I'm really, I'm really unimpressed. Well, hey, Rich, this is, this is concluded at least our AFC, NFC, We're going to have a week to a couple weeks. We're going to have Pro Bowl here and then we've got Super Bowl after that.
Starting point is 00:17:49 So we're going to have time to let this weekend kind of subside in the emotions of it get removed. But that's all for a championship weekend. Appreciate you guys joining us. Sorry you guys out to watch that beneficiary the game. It's unfortunate. Congratulations to the Eagles and Kansas City Chiefs. We'll see you next week. Volume.
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