The Herd with Colin Cowherd - The Richard Sherman Podcast - NFL Week 17 Reaction: 49ers-Raiders, Jets-Seahawks, Panthers-Bucs, Vikings-Packers

Episode Date: January 2, 2023

Richard Sherman reacts to Week 17 of the NFL season. Why is Richard concerned for the 49ers after an OT win over the Raiders? Aaron Rodgers and the Green Bay Packers are getting hot at the right time, but can they make a run in the NFC if they make it to the playoffs? What about Tom Brady and the Buccaneers? The Seahawks eliminated the Jets from playoff contention but Seattle needs some help from the Lions if they're going to make it to the postseason. #volume #herd #colincowherdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Rich, it's do or die time. It is do or die time. We got that extra week. This stuff is coming down to the wire drastically. And we saw it in the NFC South. You know, we've been talking smack about this division all season long, and we had a barn burner down in Tampa, Rich. Your thoughts on these buccaneers?

Well, it looked like Tom Brady finally understood that, hey, sometimes you can just throw it up to Mike Evans over and over and over again, and it will work. And throughout the season, people were wondering what happened, because they had such a great rapport and a great rhythm in the last season going into the playoffs, you know, made some huge plays. And this year, kind of, you know, Mike was getting his yards, but there weren't the explosive plays that you're used to.

And then this game, it was like, hey, you got nothing to lose. Toss it up to him over and over and over. I mean, at some point, as the corner, you got to just start bail and say, hey, hey, come on now. You'll catch everything but a goal ball today. But, man, it was great to see Tom Brady, vintage Tom Brady, right when he needs it. He got it. He's shirt at 432 yards and capped it off with a rushing TD 2. And Rich, to your point, I mean, this is the Mike Evans of the last several years, right?

I mean, I thought I was watching replays. Every time I looked up, he was catching a goal ball down the right sideline. And I was like, oh, that's another touchdown. You know, so these are the days you're used to seeing with Mike Evans. And now you got Tom Brady entering, you know, the offseason on a little bit of a, a little bit of a hot streak here. Can Tampa Bay realistically make any noise in the playoffs? Well, if Mike Evans is playing like that, he's unstoppable. I mean, he's going to, they're going to need to double him. They're going to need to back up that maybe that'll open up the run game

for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. But if they keep singling him and playing eight-man box football, eight men in a box football, then, I mean, Mike, he might not have 207, like he had this game, but he's going to have a day. And it was a had to have a game. You know, this was for all the Marbles, and it was cool to see them come back because they were down early. They were down 14-0-0. You know, a team can quit. A team can give up and say, hey, you know, this isn't our day. This isn't our year.

And Tom Brady doesn't have any quit in him. And so it was great. It was great to see that from the team. Great game for Mike. But look at your Detroit Lions, Mitchell. Oh, talk about another half-to-have-it game. I mean, going into this game, you know, the let-down game last week, it was bound to happen. The team was hot.

They stumbled in Carolina. And now they got to win out and get some love from Seattle in the loss column. That didn't happen today. But in Detroit, they're at home. They look like a great team. I mean, their offense is clicking on all cylinders. Jared Goff looks like Matt Stafford out there. I mean, my goodness, Rich, if this team could only play at home every game of the season,

they might be a serious, serious contender. But unfortunately, they can't. I mean, the Bears. got off rolling quick, Justin Fields, 100 yards running in the first quarter. But the Lions calm things down. You know, the offense coordinator, Ben Johnson, does a hell of a job. And the Lions are still, still have a glimmer of hope. I mean, does this, have you have any more faith in this team after last week, Rich,

with this big win this week? Mitchell, Mitchell, that's just a appreciate. Come on, you got to give me salt in here, man. Come on. Mitchell, you got something. You got the win against Chicago's. Bears teams that is going to pick two in the draft. But like, let's go, Mitchell.

We're not going to go crazy here. But it was great. It was great offensive production. Jared Gough, eight straight games without interception. I mean, it's going to be very hard for, it's going to be a hard decision for the Lions, what they're going to do this off season because they're going to, they're going to have to figure it out. They're going to have the Rams pick, which will be top five.

Will they need a quarterback with Jared Gough playing like the number one pick that he was? I doubt it. I doubt you go that way, that direction. You've got other holes to fill. Hopefully you're able to fill them. James Houston, three sacks. Josh Pascal, two sacks. DeAndre Swift came through for your fantasy team, Mitchell.

Came through. I think he came through for a lot of fantasy teams, Rich. This is championship weekend. We can't forget that. But Rich, I know you're high on Tyreek Woolen, but let's not forget about Aiden Hutchinson. I mean, this guy's got his third interception as a defensive end. I mean, that's relatively unheard of it in this league.

speaking fast. I think he's the first player to have three interceptions combined with a certain number of sacks, et cetera. And then you like giving love to random players every now and again. How about this rookie James Houston, Rich? He comes in. He's, first off, out of Jackson State, Dion Sanders Air. You know, I think this is a seventh or eighth sack of the season. He's only played since week eight or nine. I mean, three sacks today, Rich. So got to give kudos to these guys. You got to give him a lot of love. Three sacks is hard to get for anybody. And for him to come on the scene like that, I mean, it's awesome. But that's why Detroit is playing well.

They're finding gold. They're finding these late round gyms. These young guys are playing outside of their mind. It's cool to see. It's really cool to see. It's cool to see Jared Golf play well. Jamal Williams is playing well. It's exciting football.

And you talked about it earlier. Justin Fields was having a field day in the first quarter. I think he had 105 or so in the first quarter. You know, kind of slowed it down after that. Through interception late in the game, wasn't very efficient passing the ball. And, I mean, Detroit still needs some help. But going to Green Bay and beating Green Bay would be big for their psyche,

for their record, and for their playoff hopes, man. But it's a stretch, Mitchell. Well, let's stay in that division. Let's talk about Green Bay. We like to call them Kirk. I'm going to call him Kirk. No, Rich, three interceptions. This is Vikings team.

I'm just going to let you take the floor here. This is 12 and 4, Rich. What do you think of this Vikings team at 12 and 4? Mitchell, I think they're either a first round exit or second round exit team. They're not a Super Bowl team, but it was fun. It was a fun run. You know, they got a lot of veterans, a lot of guys I like on that team, but they're not winning the Super Bowl with this team. You know, you wanted to believe in them last week.

You know, they played hard. They, you know, had a balanced attack. You're like, hmm, maybe they figured it out. But then this game shows you they have not, you know. And it's not even like Aaron. Aaron just killed them and sliced and diced them. Aaron wasn't going off like that. Their defense played really well.

Aaron Rogers only had 159 yards passing and one touchdown. They gave up a lot of yards on the ground, and the Green Bay defense played outstanding. You heard all the trash talk early in a week, all the trash talk earlier in a week, Jair Alexander, you know, talking about Justin Jefferson's stuff was just a fluke. Hey, you say that? You better show up, and their whole defense showed up.

Justin Jefferson didn't even have a catch in the first half, which is crazy. He had one catch for 15 yards in the entire game, and I think he had six targets. Hey, that's backing up your talk. That's, you talk about it, you be about it. And like you said, Kirkos struggled, three interceptions. Like, you can't have that, but that's good Kirk versus bad Kirk. You know, it's Jekyll and Hyde. They've won, I think, they're undefeated in one-score games, you know.

But then they got these disgusting blowouts, you know, Dallas blew them out, 40 to three. you know, this game got out of hand. And you're like, I can't trust a team that gets blown out so easily. I certainly haven't seen anything like this, Rich. I mean, they're 12 and 4. They have a minus 19 point differential on the season. I don't even how that is statistically possible, but the Vikings have found some way to do it.

Rich, Aaron Rogers, 18 and 1 in December, him in the floor, in December and January. And this team, again, we talked about it last week. Rogers seems to speak things into existence. You know, he's got this quiet confidence about him, a little bit of cockiness, if you will. But Richard, he backs it up and he gets his teams wins in crucial positions. Now they control their own destiny.

You know, they win against Detroit. They are in. Do you foresee them winning against Detroit? And if so, what kind of noise can they make in the? postseason. It's just so unpredictable. But, you know, there's a cool stat, you know, with LaFleur and Aaron Rogers, 18 and 1 in December and January.

And that's when you want to be playing your best football. I think they've won five in a row. It feels like a much better team than their record shows, but I still don't think they're complete enough to really do a ton of damage now. Now, sure, they can run into Minnesota in the first round. Again, repeat matchup. I think they can win that game. But I think a much better Green Bay Packers team played against San.

Francisco last year in the playoffs and went home. And they were at home, you know, with Devante Adams and the boys, you know, there wasn't young receivers. But I still think, you know, when you got Aaron Rogers and you got Tom Brady, you got a chance. And they'll have a chance, but it's going to be a long shot. Now, Rich, I don't want to stray too far away from this playoff picture, but we had a team that eliminated themselves from contention today in the Washington commanders. We talked about it last week. You bench, your boy, Heineke, who for Carson Wentz. And you questioned it.

I questioned it. It didn't seem to make a ton of sense. And then we see it on the field today with Carson Wentz struggling mightily against the Browns resulting in a loss. Your thoughts on that coaching decision? I don't want to play Monday morning quarterback here, but I think we have to.

Your thoughts on Carson Wentz going forward. I mean, the same way I felt about Carson Wentz before. You know, I don't think he's a great quarterback, you know, but people keep thinking. they can save and people keep thinking they can be, they got the answers. You know, not that Taylor Heineke is, is perfect. You know, he's not Tom Brady by any stretch of the imagination, but the guys played for him. They fight for him, but they hadn't been winning. So I think Ron Revere is just trying to get a spark. The thing that is more stunning and surprising is that

it didn't seem like Ron Revere knew that they were eliminated from the playoffs, which is, I mean, that's a whole story for a different day. But, I mean, it was great for the Browns defense. They got turnovers. Miles Garrett played a really good game. Nick Chubb. Deshaun Watson played his best game to date. Still, not a great completion percentage, but three touchdowns, 169 yards. Amarie Cooper, one of his best games of the season. So as a rounds fan, I'm sure, you know, I mean, you can get excited about it. You can get excited about how this team is playing. You're not going to the playoffs this year. You're doing all right. I'm like, it's okay. It's the last Monday night game of the regular season. So make sure. you make every moment more by downloading Fandul, America's number one sportsbook.

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Listen to the Clifford Show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. Well, Rich, let's talk about a team that might be going to the playoffs. Your hometown, Seattle Seahawks. Get it done against Mike White. Your home boy, I know you love you some Mike White. But the Seahawks just came out the gates dominated. You know, gave it to our boy K-9, runs right down the field, 60-yard gasher right on the first possession.

And the Seahawks never looked back. This team, I didn't believe in them a week ago. I didn't believe in them two weeks ago. But now they're looking like a team that maybe, maybe they get hot at the right time, Rich. Your thought on the Seattle Seahawks. I mean, the thing that's really exciting for that team, you know, I mean, Mike White struggled mightily, you know, looked uncomfortable the entire game. Just didn't look like the quarterback he had looked like against Buffalo in the games. He started against Chicago.

But that's the league every week. You know, it's a week-by-week league. And if you, you know, the great ones show up week after week after week after week. It was unfortunate that Mike, Mike didn't play well. Two interceptions, and I mean two interceptions that just, one was really behind. Garrett Wilson was open. He threw it way behind him. Great play by Mike Jackson.

Then Quandre Diggs made a heck of a play, you know, cutting off one of the routes. But those are mistakes you can't make. But on the flip side, Gino played a really solid game, as always. Pro Bowl season, he did exactly what they needed to do. They revived the running game with Kenneth Walker. to third, 133 yards on 233 carries, and DJ Dallas also did some damage in the past game, had a career high in total yards. That was huge.

Darrell Taylor, two and a half sacks. His best game as a pro was all over the place. Huge sack at the end of the game to pretty much nip it in the bud. Quentin Jefferson, veteran. And they're playing better against a run. You know, they didn't, I don't think they gave up a hundred yard rush a day, which is huge. You need that kind of confidence. And it just seems like they're excited to play.

but the Gino Smith Revenge Tour. He's played three teams, three of his former teams. He three and O. That's a good year for you, baby. He's done. He certainly, I mean, I know you were higher on him than most were, but he's certainly revitalized his career. What I love about this more than anything, though, Rich,

is that you have to be a Detroit Lions fan going into next week because the Detroit Lions must win in order for Seattle to have a shot at getting into the playoffs. Let's keep it in the division. We saw a great game, a great finish, and certainly not a game I expected to be close at all. The San Francisco 49ers pull off a very close, tight win in overtime against the Las Vegas Raiders. Your thoughts on this game? Well, it's concerning for the 49ers defense, you know, because like we've been talking about, they got healthier.

Jared Stidham is first start of his career. And unless he's coming out here developing into Aaron Rogers or Tom Brady or Drew Breed, or one of the all-time, great. This is going to be cause for concern because they were running beaters. You know, they were finding holes in the San Francisco 49ers defense. They were still solid against the run.

But, I mean, every team doesn't have a Devonte Adams. He had seven for 153. Majority of it came against Diomador Lenore, who just, you know, when you're young and you're dealing with the best receiver in football, you're going to struggle. You know, you're going to learn throughout the game why he's the best receiver in football.

He just set a franchise record for receptions. but the 49ers are on a nine-game win streak. The offense put up 37 points with Brock Purdy, needed and had to have it drive at the end of the football game. Ice in his veins, drove it all the way down the field. Unfortunately, Robbie Gold, which is the conversation. You can't miss that one, you know, regulation. Thank goodness.

Tashon Gibson gave them another opportunity, you know, on a pass that was forced to be errant because of Nicholas. John Bosa, huge play in overtime, right when the team needed. it just freaking destroys the tackle into the quarterback, can't step into the throw, lobs up a gimmie for Tashon Gibson, he returns it to the seven. The rest is history. Kick the field goal. Let's go home.

And I mean, CMC, CMC. I mean, they've lost one game since CMC has been traded for. And now it's against the Kansas City Chiefs on his, I mean, he was a couple days in. So some people count it. Some people don't. But since then, they have not lost the game. And he's been really efficient. Brandon Iyuk plays his best game, nine receptions for one-on-one in a tug.

And guess what, Mitchell? Next week, Tyshan comes back. Debo Samuel is back in the fold next week. And everybody's like, oh, my God, you forgot about Debo. You're going to hear the music. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. You know what I mean?

Kind of like Joles. But they're going to show up, and it's going to be interesting. I like the 49ers, Rich. I think they needed a game like this. It's a gut check. You know, everyone's been pumping up their tires, talking about how great this defense is. I mean, we've certainly been doing it for weeks on this podcast. They deserved every bit of it, you know, but maybe this was a perfect mismatch for him.

You know, you got a perfect compliment of Josh Jacobs and Devante Adams. By the way, Devante Adams set a franchise record, toppled Tim Brown in his first season there. So kudos to him. And in this game, I think a huge story here as well, the 49ers are now the second seat. They're going to be playing at home more and they're not going to have to have to deal with going to Minnesota. You know, this is a big, big win for them. on the road against a team, obviously, and the Raiders that wanted to win, you know? It's even bigger because the Philadelphia Eagles are struggling right now.

And it's not just offensively. It's defensively. They're finding holes in his defense. But offensively, they're struggling. They scored 10 points against the Saints today. The Saints were fighting for that last playoff spot in the NFC South, but you cannot lose that game. They had just played a really great game, scored 34 against the Dallas Cowboys.

It almost makes that game seem worse because the Dallas Cowboys. Cowboys gave up 34 to this offense that the Saints only gave up 10 to. And if they lose this last one, they play the Giants, I think, at the end of the season. They lose this last one. The 49ers are now the one seed, and the Philadelphia Eagles drop all the way down to the wildcard. Oh, my goodness. This is disastrous for the Eagles. And you talked about it last week.

This is a team. Everything was clicking. They were healthy. And then all of a sudden the J. and Hurts injury happens. And then the Lane Johnson injury happens. These things are happening at the wrong time, unlike the 49ers who dealt with injuries early on in the season, were able to build their depth, get back, be healthy at the perfect time. This Philly team is reeling, Rich, and you hit on it. I mean, they're reeling on multiple levels. Their defense, you know, played okay today, but they're

O line. I mean, without Lane Johnson, they gave up five sacks in the first half. I mean, they hadn't allowed four sacks in a game prior to this, Rich. I mean, the offensive line without Lane Johnson is going to be a big, big issue. And now they got a win against a division foe in the New York Giants to just maintain this number one seed. This could be disaster zone for this team, Rich. It could be bad because now you may have to force Jalen Hertz in earlier than you wanted to. You were sitting there in a comfortable position. We talked about a few weeks ago, comfortable position, everything's all good.

You can take your time. And I told you, Mitchell, if you have a shoulder injury, you miss more than one game, you miss two games. Mitchell, it is serious. It's serious. These are tough individuals. They know what it takes to win. They know the high playing tolerance and he's out. If he misses this next one with everything on the line and they potentially lose, this could ruin.

They all of a sudden are on a road team in every playoff game. If you want to make it to the Super Bowl, you're going to have to go to Dallas, potentially. You're going to have to go to San Francisco, potentially. You're going to have to go on the road. You're going to have to show that you deserve this Super Bowl. Because your quarterback guy, that's why it's so hard to win a Super Bowl in the National Football League, because when you get injured, how you get injured, who gets injured. Lane Johnson is not just one of the best players on that old line.

He's one of the best players on their team. So you're going to feel his loss. And you're feeling in a tremendous way. You can't protect the quarterback. Hard to win. I want to talk about the quarterback. And I want to talk about the style of the quarterback. Jalen Hertz. He's a dynamic game changer. But guys like this that get out of the pocket and

create stuff on their feet are more and more injury prone. I mean, I am watching the Lions game to gay. Justin Fields has taken hits that, you know, 225-pound running back shouldn't be taken. And he's taken 10 of them a game. You're bound to be injured at some point. I mean, we saw it with Lamar Jackson. You weren't spot on with Lamar Jackson. You said he's going to sit down. He's going to sit down for the rest of the season. I don't know if he's going to sit down for the rest of the season. But he hasn't been back yet. How do you prevent this as a running quarterback? Because they are the nice, shiny objects that totally transform offenses.

But with one wrong hit, that offense is back to Gardner-Menschu or, you know, Andy Dalton or Tyler Huntley. You know, these are one wrong play away from ruining a team season. How do you coach against this? There's nothing to say, Mitchell. It's the risk you take when you get that style of quarterback. Cross the fingers. You cross the fingers. You have a competent backup that has a similar skill set.

That's with the Baltimore Ravens. That's the strategy they went with. It's weird that the Philadelphia Eagles didn't go with that strategy to go with a similar body type. So somebody that can come in and be able to do at least some of the things he could do. You know, maybe not everything, but he can get some of the things done. He has some mobility. But, you know, it's nothing to plan for. You know, I mean, the San Francisco 49ers had a running quarterback.

He got hurt. And they had a pocket port. a pocket, as pocket of a quarterback as you can be pocket, and he got hurt. You know, so quarterbacks get hurt in the National Football League. You got to have a good old line. You got to block for him. And freaky things happen. But the key is having capable backups that can get it done.

That is the sign of any successful team. You're going to have guys played that weren't expected to be starters. And if you want to win in this football league, they better produce at a level comparable to the guys they were placing. Well, we saw it. Miami, Tua, is out again with another concussion. This is becoming a huge storyline in his career, and I don't want to speculate on what's going on, but certainly that number of concussions and big-time hits in a season take their toll.

But Teddy Bridgewater came in, inevitably got knocked out, and they're left with Skyler Thompson. Now Miami is on the outside looking in, and the New England Patriots, who we just flat out rode off a few weeks back are now a win away from getting into this playoffs. Do you like either one of these teams here? Is it done with the Dolphins and Patriots? We're in playoff season, Mitchell, and they're prey right now. You know, they're just part of the cycle of life at this point. You're not expecting either of those teams to go compete for a Super Bowl.

They will be, you know, maybe they have a win in the first round and, you know, they upset somebody, ruin somebody's season. But we're talking about from the AFC side, we're talking about the Buffalo Bills. We're talking about the Kansas City Chief and the Cincinnati Bengals. Those are the teams that you're expecting to do damage. And then you got the Baltimore Ravens. We talk about Lamar Jackson. What he does, if he's not back, you don't really feel that they're a threat to dethrone anybody.

Their defense is playing okay down the stretch, but they need points. And without Lamar Jackson, Tyler Huntley is doing his best impression, but Lamar Jackson was an MVP candidate for a reason. He's not having his best season, but he creates an element that few people can. So, I mean, I still think, you know, NFC is San Francisco, Philly. Dallas is there. Green Bay is probably right after them. And if Tom plays like he does, then anything can happen with those boys.

I love to see it because everyone was writing off the NFC. I mean, there seemed to be only one true team, at least two true teams, the Eagles and the Niners. And now we're seeing these quarterbacks of old, Aaron Rogers and Tom Brady all of a sudden turning them old selves and giving them a shot. And Rich, we got a huge game tomorrow night, and probably the best Monday night football game.

of the year. Buffalo against the Cincinnati Bengals. I want to talk about this game because I know it's going to have serious implications on the playoffs. It's going to have serious implications on the Richard Sherman Power ranks. Rich, who do you like in this game going into Monday night? The way Josh Allen has been playing down the stretch, he's second or third in the league and interceptions thrown in the game. He's thrown 13. And majority of them, probably half of them is come in the red zone at the most inopportune times, and it's not seeming like he's going to stop anytime soon. And Joe Burrell is hot as fish grease right now.

He's playing well. His receivers are healthy. His old lines playing as good as they played in a really, really long time. They're explosive. Their defense is so scrappy, and they're playing at a high level. They're getting hot at the right time. That's why it's nobody wants Cincinnati to come to their stadium in the playoffs.

Nobody wants to see that bangle, those bangles stripes come into their stadium because it's going to be, you're likely going to go home. And he's proven it against my own. I know Kansas City don't want to see him again. They've lost to him three times in this calendar year. And I don't think they want to see him again. There's just something different about Joe Burrow, Rich. I mean, even in college, he just is unwilling to lose, you know,

and he has taken the Cincinnati Bengals team, an organization that was a relative lacking stock for a couple decades and turned them into an NFL power, you know, I don't see that changing any time in the foreseeable future. I mean, this might be Joe Burroughs League if he's able to bring home a Super Bowl trophy, where it's just going to be a heck of a game, certainly going to the next week. This NFL season is getting wilder and wilder by the week. I'll let you sign us off as we conclude week 16.

Well, another weird thing that's going to happen is the Bengals don't pay anybody passed guaranteed money passed one year into your contract. So Mike Brown is either going to have to trade Joe Burroughs. or figure something else out where he maximizes this contract because he's likely going to be making $55 to $60 million, and a lot of it is going to need to be guaranteed. But that's against everything the Cincinnati Bengals have done in the past. Jamar Chase is also coming up.

So it's good problems to have, but it's going to be very interesting to see how that shakes out going forward. But thank you again for joining us on a Richard Sherman podcast. It's me, my guy Mitch Eisenstein, and we'll see you next week. Volume. Another podcast from some SNL, late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and Friends.

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