The Herd with Colin Cowherd - The Richard Sherman Podcast - NFL Week 5 Reaction: Cowboys-49ers, Saints-Patriots, Jets-Broncos, Chiefs-Vikings

Episode Date: October 10, 2023

Richard Sherman reacts to Week 5 in the NFL. Richard gives his takes on the San Francisco 49ers' dominant win over the Dallas Cowboys, whether or not the Patriots would fire Bill Belichick if New England continues to bottom out, and if Sean Payton regrets taking the Denver Broncos coaching job. Richard also breaks down the rest of the Week 5 NFL action, including: the Jacksonville Jaguars upsetting the Buffalo Bills in London, Travis Kelce's injury, the Detroit Lions looking legit against the Carolina Panthers, and Joe Burrow's Cincinnati Bengals bouncing back against the Arizona Cardinals. #volume #herdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Super Bowl championship. That should always be the expectation. All right, man. That's going on here. Welcome back to the Richard Sherman podcast. You saw it without me. Now we got my guy, the superstar Mitch Eisenstein. Mitchell.

Richard, this is a pleasure. First and foremost, we had a late-night thriller. Everyone's at the edge of their seat. This is America. because game of the week, your 49ers against Skip Bayliss's Dallas, Cowboys. Richard, I was sitting on pins and needles

because I'm a man, this shit tomorrow morning between Richard and Skip's about to go off one way or the other. Richard, this wasn't even a game. I mean, we were texting in the group chat. That fourth quarter looked like a preseason game because there was names, I'm sure you didn't even know out there trotting out there,

kicking ass still for the 49ers. Mitchell, I wasn't sitting on pens and needles. I was sitting comfortably in first class on a flight on my way, watching the San Francisco 49ers dogwalk the Dallas Cowboys as expected. And I talked about this last night before you got on, Mitchell, I snuck one in. You know what I knew, Mitchell? I knew the margin of victory. This is my theorem, you know, Pythagorean's theorem, you know, quadratic equations.

All this. I was saying Arizona Cardinals, I'm going to use them as my barometer. You know, like team, you know. I'm going to say, they beat the Dallas Cowboys by 12. The San Francisco 49ers beat them by 19. 12 plus 19. 31, Mitchell.

Somewhere I lost a point in there, you know. Plus or minus a point is what I should have left my Martians to be because they beat them by 32. Mitchell, it was everything. And then, you know, I talked about all this last night. Right, it's in there. But the frustrating part is now, you know, this is after the game. It's the next day.

So we hear all the quotes and everything. And you hear the quote from Michael Parsons saying, I don't think they're better than us. You don't think they're better than you. I think we're even both playoff teams, both playoff caliber teams that, like, you are not the same. You are not equal. All playoff teams are not created equal and these two teams are not created equal. I can't imagine a player playing in that game and saying something, something like that, unless he's delusional. And a lot of their fans are delusional, but I didn't

think their players are. And he's an all pro, one of the best players in the National Football League. So I thought if anybody's going to keep it honest with himself, it's going to be him. But he wasn't existing in the game. So I guess he didn't show up for the game and he didn't see what happened to him. But everybody who watched that game understands you guys are not created equal. They are better at every level. They are better on offense, on defense, and on special teams. They have better players in the secondary at linebacker on the D-line.

This isn't like a subjective opinion anymore. You guys played head-to-head. So it's an objective opinion on a head-to-head matchup. Mitchell, this is the most lopsided victory in the history of this rivalry. Dallas Cowboys and the San Francisco 49ers have played 40 times, Mitchell.

It's almost a 50-50. San Francisco has won 20, Dallas has won 19, and there's been a tie. But in those 40 games, this is the biggest margin of victory, 32 points. So a guy who was a part of this game, who was on the losing side of this game, a leader on this team, for him to say something like that is a guy that isn't holding himself and his team accountable. And you can't win like that. You have to be honest with yourself.

It's just like Zach Wilson the other day. Jack Wilson turned the ball over late in the game when he played a pretty good game. He played a pretty good game, and he's had times where he didn't take accountability where he's like, he played a terrible game. And he was like, that one wasn't on me. I played pretty good.

You didn't. This one, sometimes as a leader, even when you play solidly, you got to say, hey, this one was on me. I got to play better. They were the better team today. We'll get back to the drawing board and we'll get better. That wasn't what he said. What he said was like, so y'all the same as them?

They ran the ball. They threw the ball. Three touchdowns. This quarterback shred it, y'all. You didn't get to the quarterback very much at all. I don't know. I think he was sacked one time by J. Ron Curse on a kind of a busted play.

But outside of that, I don't know if y'all touched his jersey. I don't know if your glove or your pads touch Brock Purdy. So I'm perplexed. I'm vexed of sorts. Mitchell? Well, if he thinks they're the same, Rich, I got news for you. And the words of the. great, your friend now, little Wayne, we are not the same. I am a Martian, Rich.

These 49ers looked out of this world last night if they are the same. Richard, another one for you. In the words of the great Denny Green, they are who you thought they were, Rich. This Dallas Cowboy team, I'm sorry, but you're trying to stack up their resume against the rest of the league. Stack them up against my Detroit Lions, Rick. Rich, they beat the Giants, they beat the Jets, they beat the Patriots, they got stomped against Arizona Cardinals, and they got absolutely embarrassed on national television last night against your San Francisco 49ers. They are all talk, all hype, limited production against very, very bottom of the barrel teams this year, Rich. I just, I don't see it. They've got playmakers,

on defense, and sure they suffered a devastating injury to digs. But Richard, I expected more. I expected them to at least stick their necks out there and be in this game in the fourth quarter. And this game was over early. And frankly, Richard, if it weren't for a fumble on the goal line by CMC, it would have been over a lot earlier. It could have got worse.

And then you question a lot of things because in elite defense, even when the Jets, Let's go for the Jets, for example. There were a lot of games where they were so inept offensively with Zach Wilson, especially the Cowboys game. You could just give up. You could just say, man, this isn't our day. We're not going to win this game.

But they battle. They fought to the very end. They did their best, tried to give their team a shot, and they lost the game. But they didn't give up. They didn't quit. This defense quit, Mitchell. They quit. That's the difference between, not that elite defenses can't have bad games.

They can't. But you can't have a game where you quit. For a limited time, Verizon customers can get Netflix and NFL Plus for just $25 a month with Plus Play. That's $120 of annual savings. Plus Play is a platform where Verizon customers can shop, manage, and save on subscriptions you already love, like Netflix and NFL Plus. With NFL Plus premium, you get access to live games on mobile, NFL Red Zone, NFL Network, and more. Just go to Verizon.com forward slash plus play to bundle and save on Netflix and NFL Plus today for a limited time on them. And then this leads me to my point, my next point, because one of the greatest coaches in the history of this game, Bill Belichet, is making history right now, Mitchell.

He's making history in the worst possible way. Since the 1970 merger, the New England Patriots have never lost consecutive games by 30 points. Mitchell, they have been outscored 72 to 3 in the last two games. Defensive genius Bill Belichick has been outscored 72 to 3 in the last few games. If this was anybody else, if this was Sean Payton, Nathaniel Hackett, getting blown out of water like this, Mitchell, you would be calling for his job. Now, Bill Belichick has earned the right to complete any season in which he started. There's no question about that. But there are some questions and concerns. Should he retire or resign before things get even further out

of hand before these teams lose more games? If he goes three win, three and fourteen this year, I mean, three and fourteen or four and thirteen this year, what does that do for his legacy? What does that say about the time with Tom Brady, the time without Tom Brady? Because his record without Tom Brady is only getting worse. And the narrative about his time without Tom Brady is only getting worse because you're playing GM and head coach and everybody gave you credit. Hey, Bill Belichick can pretty much do whatever he wants. He doesn't have to talk into media because that's just Belichick. That's just what he does. And that's fine as long as you're winning. But when you've got blown out. You were held scoreless in the last game. You benched your starting quarterback twice,

but you're saying he's still your guy. You have little to no chance to win the division or going to the playoffs this year, likely going to pick in the top 10. There are concerns. There are questions that need to be asked, and it's up to Robert Kraft to say, how long do you let him go? Do you let him go until Bill doesn't want to coach anymore? Do you let him go until, or do you fire him? I don't think you can fire a Bel Belichick. I don't think, I don't think that's possible. Out of respect to him and the career he's had, it's going to be very, very difficult. And I can't imagine he's going to go peacefully, Rich. I mean, but like you said, this is his legacy here. Maybe he's setting this up. Maybe, just maybe, Rich, listen to me here real quick.

Have you heard of a gentleman's name called Caleb Williams? He said that they need a factory reset. They need to restart. That'd be the quickest restart they could possibly have is getting Caleb Williams. in New England, ASAP. But Richard, that game right there, like you said, Mack Jones, his fourth pick six in Gillette Stadium. You know who also had four picks, sixes in Gillette Stadium throughout his career, Thomas Brady. So he's already over there breaking records for just the wrong ones.

Mitchell, Tom Brady played there for like 16, 17 years. This man did it. He ain't even out of his rookie days. And to think that those over in 49er land were wanting Mac Jones, man, I think they still made the right pick, albeit Trey Lance is no longer on the team. But I think you can make a strong argument. Trey Lance is still the better quarterback than Mac Jones. But Richard, we got to squeeze it in. We got a sponsor here.

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and control defensively, especially for most of that game. Jordan Love made some winning plays. The last couple of drives was able to get some points on the board and win that game. But consistently, over the history of the New Orleans Saints, they've had a very stingy defense and they still do. But you have to give a lot of blame to Bill Belichick in New England Patriots and Mac Jones has not played well, did not play well against the Dallas Cowboys. And you saw what you thought that defense was.

against the elite offense with a quarterback who throws the ball where it's supposed to go, and Brock Purdy, who should be the leading candidate for MVP of the league right now, you see what they did. They put up 42 points and could have put up more if they really felt like it in that game. So it's not that this defense is unflappable, but they did play really well, and they looked like a dumpster fire in New England. Well, that's this week's almost almost perfect defense of the week. And remember, you can order almost, almost anything you want with Uber Eats, the official on-demand partner of the NFL.

Order now. But you can't order an offense and you can't order a franchise quarterback and despite the fact that New England thought they had one, they do not. And now they have to make a decision. Do you pay Mac Jones? Do you not pay them? Do you pick up his fifth year option? That's an answer I don't want to give and I don't want to choose because you're not going to be picking high enough to get Caleb Williams. I'll give you a quick answer on that, Richard.

no, you don't. You don't. You let him sail off into the sunset. You take it is what it is. I don't think he's the answer in New England. But Richard, let's go overseas real quick. We saw a shocker in the early morning number. Six-30-year time, 9-30 my time. Richard, I woke up and I'm like, what is going on here? Jacksonville up early, you know, got up two scores early, took a lead in the halftime and never really relinquished it. The Buffalo Bills just have trouble overseas like a lot of teams do. Richard, did you do? Richard, did you do? You know, see this coming? Bills 20, Jacksonville, 25, and a little bit of an upset there? No, it's a lot of bit of an upset. I mean, Jacksonville, didn't they just lose to Houston? Was that last week? Yeah. I want to say they did. Rookie quarterback, C.J. Straub played a really good game. D'Amico Ryan's defense played a really good game, but no, I did not have them beating the Buffalo Bills who just put the fire out of the Miami Dolphins. You know, people were saying, statistically, through five weeks, they have the most yards in NFL history. One of the hottest offenses in the history of the game, and they held them 20 points and beat them by

28. So, no, I didn't have them going overseas and losing to a Jacksonville Jaguars team that's coming off a bad loss to Houston. But Josh Allen playing Jekyll and Hyde, you know, consistently. A.J. Espinoza, two sacks, Leonard Floyd, two sacks. They're getting a pass rush. They're getting there. Two fumbles by Trevor Lawrence, but he played really well down the stretch. Travis Etyn, Eton, ran the ball really well, 26 for one, three. was big play after big play, especially when they needed in the fourth quarter. I just don't know what to make of the Buffalo Bills because I wanted to give them credit for being an elite defense.

I wanted to give them credit for having playmakers. Obviously, Von Miller hasn't come back yet. He's going to be back soon. And he's going to make a huge difference. But you just can't Jacklin hide it on both sides of the football and just drop the ball like this. Some weeks they look really good. Then you look at the game versus the Jets, first game of the season. And you're like, what happened there?

then you look at this game, and you're like, what happened there? Jacksonville Jaguars are not the better team. They don't have the better quarterback. They don't have the better defense. They don't have the better offense. So what happened? And then you see Stefan Diggs frustrated. Why?

Because he got underthrown by Josh Allen on a play that should have been an easy walkoff touchdown. But it's not. And so you try to make sense of what's happening over there, and I just can't. Well, the biggest problem with Buffalo right now, Richard, like you said, It's consistency, but I think the underlying issue here, Richard, is consistency in the run game. Their running backs had 14 rushes for 29 yards on the game. They get behind early.

They seem to abandon their game plan. I mean, you saw this in week one against the Jets. Yet, when they've had success in their three wins, James Cook is going off. You know, Josh Allen's having a lot easier time when he's got a run game behind him. And it seemed to be like the last four years, the run game has been their Achilles heel. They got to focus on this, Richard. They got to pound the rock. early and often. You look at the NFL landscape, the teams that are doing it and doing it well.

Your San Francisco 49ers, outstanding run game. Philadelphia Eagles, outstanding run game. DeAndre Swift's revelation, right? The Detroit Lions, outstanding run game. You go across the board. That is the number one thing. Consistency in the run game. And this Buffalo Bill's team just hasn't had it and hasn't had it for years. And it's going to bite them in the ass every year until they figure this out, Rich. This doesn't come as a shock to me, but you know what? They get the Giants on Sunday night football. I don't know why the NFL keeps putting the Giants in prime time, but they get an easy layup game next weekend. So maybe they can get right. Yeah, I mean, they'll get right. The Giants are the medicine for every team right now. If you need a confidence boost, you need

somebody to make you feel pretty, to make you feel sexy. That New York Giants are the ones for you, baby. They're the ones that don't make you feel like you're a world beater. You're a champion. Look how they have the Dallas Cowboys feeling after week one. Like they were going into the Super Bowl. Now they're three and two, five games in, and they got a couple games in a stretch where they're going to have a hard time. But I just don't know what to make of them. This game against the Giants won't tell me anything. I mean, I guess no games will tell me anything until the playoffs with the Buffalo Bills. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced

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always were notorious for playing up or down to the level of their competition. You know, you'd see them on Thanksgiving, almost squeak off a win against the Buffalo Bills, and then you'd turn around and lose to Chicago. It's like, what is this team doing? And they just, they took control early, up 28 to 7, you know, uh, Aidan Hutchinson, second overall pick. Makes you wonder what Jacksonville was thinking, taking Trevon Walker first overall. Because Aidan Hutchinson, man, he's all of a sudden put his hat into the ring

for the defensive player of the year. It might be a little early. I know you got Nicholas John Bosa and T.J. Watt and others there. But Richard, the one-handed interception, the sack, you know, this team, they're doing, and they're doing it on all levels, Richard. They've got defensive linemen that are doing it. They got the linebacking core. Unfortunately, unfortunately, in the secondary,

Emmanuel Mosley, your good friend and former teammate, goes down two games in to his Detroit Lions debut. I feel terrible for him, Richard. You know, but this offense is good, and they're doing it without their best pieces. I'm on Ross St. Brown down for the game. You know, Jemir Gibbs, their first over on pick, out. But Richard, they might have struck gold.

They might have struck gold. I don't know if there's any. gold in Iowa, but they sure as hell might have struck gold with Sam Leporta, the tight end out of Iowa. Richard, we talked about it briefly. He reminds me a little bit of our boy, Taylor Swift's boyfriend, Travis Kelsey. You know, I mean, here's a guy that was running the Wildcat at Iowa. You know what Travis Kelsey did at Sincere? He ran the Wildcat.

That's a bit unheard of for a tight end, but a guy that can make moves with a ball in his hand, like a Travis Kelsey, like a George Kittle, the lion struck golden Sam Leporta, and he's going to give him life for the entire season. Richard, I'm excited to hear your thoughts about this team because, you know what, I don't want to speak this into existence, but I have a good feeling they might be creeping into your mind

for the Richard Sherman, the Richard Sherman Power Ranks here. Mitchell, slow your role. I did that before. I fell for that before. I want to put them in there. But slow our roll just a second because the Detroit Lions have done a great job. They have done a great job. They've played hard.

They're well-coached. Dan Campbell got those boys feeling good, looking good. The guy I want to talk about is David Montgomery. David Montgomery has been a revelation. He ran the ball well against Green Bay, put the team on his back, and he's running the ball well against Carolina, and he continues to make a case to be their main back. Everybody's like, they took Jamir Gibbs.

Why isn't he getting more touches? Because at the end of the day, you got a workhorse, and he's working. And he needs carries to soften the defense and to keep moving the football down the field. That offensive line deserves a ton of credit. You guys built it well. You built it from the ground up over the years. Penae Sewell is the main state.

He's the foundational piece, the pillar on that offensive line, but you've got a lot of good players. I'd say they're a top five, top ten offensive line. And I think defensively, I mean, you hate to see what happened in the E-Man. It's just him, C.J. Gardner Johnson, you know, guys that you expected to make huge impacts for him, just can't stay on the field. And it's just such a, I can't, oh, my God, it just breaks my heart talking about E-Man. But overall, that team just seems like they have something. They got Jameson Williams back. Didn't do a ton in this game,

but the weapons that they have, when they're totally healthy, should be intimidating and should be concerning for every team. Well, they're playing the Tampa Bay Buccaneers next week. And the NFL, rightfully so flexed into the 425 kickoff, Richard. I think the NFL sees that the lions are on the up and up.

And I think you're starting to see it, too. I just want to see them in your power ranks, Rich. I know we saw him early this year, but I think they might deserve it. I think they might deserve it a little bit. Mitchell, maybe if they beat Tampa. I mean, I don't think who I would have in there right now.

Maybe if they beat Tampa, but right now, Mitchell, they just, every time I put them in there, I feel like I jinx them. And you know Lions fans, know about jinxes. Let them beat Tampa first, and then you can put them in there easily. Richard, let's travel up north with our pack of Swifties, and let's settle into Minneapolis, Minnesota, where we saw the Kansas City Swifts take on the Minnesota of Viking. Richard,

you know, we've heard the hype. Travis Kelsey is dating Taylor Swift. God bless them. And I don't know if it's a Taylor Swift curse, but we saw a little bit of an ankle roll there. And then the Swifties took to Twitter. And now the NFL might be considering actually shifting to from a turf field to all grass fields. Richard, first off, your thought about all the marketing within,

I mean, you're a marketer, right? I mean, the NFL is taking advantage of this situation right now. They are loving it. I love it. That's what you do, Mitchell. You want to increase your audience. You want to increase your market. You bring somebody in with a different audience, with a different following, and you showcase them.

And you have her at the games because all her followers aren't necessarily NFL fans, but they're Taylor Swift band. So you just increase your audience by, what, 50 percent? The numbers have been insane. Travis Kelsey, jerseys are number one in NFL right now. Ticket sales for the game she comes to are off the wall. The prices are increasing about a second. So, I mean, it's a win-win. Regardless of what the product is on the field, this is a money-making industry.

You want to bring more eyes? You want to bring more attention? People watching your product? That's what she's done. Now, has he played? Okay, he's played fine when she's there or when, you know, he's played pretty good. Their offense in general is down this year.

I think Mahon's numbers are down this year. They just don't have the playmakers they used to. They don't have the consistent numbers that they used to. And so it's all part of the process. I mean, Travis is getting older, but he's still effective and really good at what he does. And in the playoffs, they're still going to be a threat to win the Super Bowl. Regardless of how they play in a regular season, they're still finding a way to win these games. You know, you could nitpick about a play here and a play there, but at the end of the day, it's hard to win in this league.

If they had lost, it may be a different conversation. they're undefeated at Swifty. They sure are. What can I say about that? There's nothing else to say. And Travis comes back, catches the touchdown, you know, they are looking good. Like you said, the offense isn't quite there yet, but Richard, they go on the road, beat a Minnesota Viking team desperate for a win.

And this is a Minnesota Viking team that's so used to winning these tight games last year. We talked about it. It's tough to win these tight games in the NFL. And sure is, heck, they're 0 and 4-1 possession games this year. it's going to be a tough uphill battle for them. And the NFC North, thanks to my Detroit Lions. Richard, we saw another team that needed to get right. Cincinnati Bengals.

Joe Burrow just said, screw it. I'm going to throw it to Jamar Chase every single time. And Jamar Chase comes down with 15 receptions for 192, 3 tutties, albeit against Arizona Cardinals, but Arizona's looking better than I think everyone expected this year. Richard, do you think the Bengals are back or were they just playing the Arizona? Cardinals? I mean, it doesn't matter. The Arizona Cardinals have played the San Francisco 49ers tough. They played the Dallas Cowboys stuff. They've played everybody tough. They're not just a pushover

in the National Football League. I think you got to give Joe Burrell and Jamar Chase a lot of credit. Some of those were really tight windows. They're playing well. Burroughs played his best game of the season. So no, I'm not taking anything away from. Hopefully this is a sign of things to come. when they get T. Higgins back out there healthy, when they're at 100%. Hopefully they look like the team of old. And defensively, they looked a lot better. That's another thing that's been letting them down.

Their defense hasn't been playing well. A defense that's been incredibly disruptive in terms of getting turnovers and sacks over the past couple of years has not been that this year, and they were the other day. Well, Richard, we've got our weekly sponsor, our friends of the program over at Morgan and Morgan. And for this week's Making and Look Easy Player of the Week, brought to you by Morgan and Morgan, America's largest injury law firm.

This week, Jamar Chase, we already mentioned it, made it look super easy against the Cardinals. Richard, Chase had been struggling this year. He voiced his frustration, but he snaps back and it goes for 15 receptions, 192, three touchdowns. He's the fifth player to ever have 15 receptions and three touchdowns in a single game. Richard, the wide receiver is often termed a diva. Jamar Trace voices frustrations. How important do you think it is for them to have that conversation come together and Joe Burrow, just to understand he's got an elite receiver, let's force him the ball at times.

Jamar Chase, do you think this connection is back to stay for the rest of the year? Yeah, I mean, it has to be. He's one of the best receivers in the National Football League and has been for the majority of his career. And so he's just, he wasn't saying anything that wasn't true. I don't think anybody disagreed with his statement. You look at the tape, he's always open. And he's finding a way to get open, whether they double team him, single team him. And until he shows otherwise, that's your job to force feed him to football.

That's why he's going to make the big bucks in the national football league because he's a go-to guy that can make a little bit into a lot. So, yeah, keep forcing it to ball. I think that's your best chance of having success, the best chance to having long-term success. This has been making it look easy. Brought to you by Morgan & Morgan, America's largest injury law firm. If you're ever injured, you can check out Morgan and Morgan.

go to for the people.com slash Sherman or dial pound law. That's pound 529. Richard, winning in this league is hard, but hiring Morgan Morgan is easy. It's easy. Let's call it the Nathaniel Hackett revenge game, Richard. Mile high stadium, the Denver Broncos desperately have needed a win for the last two years or so, it seems, Richard.

And they can't get it against the man. who did the worst coaching job that Sean Payton has ever seen. 31 to 21, New York Jets, led by Zach Wilson, get a double-digit win on the road. Your thoughts, Richard? Well, the Wilson versus Wilson game that everybody was on the edge of their seats about, Mitchell. Everybody knew this would be the game of the week. It was it.

But Zach Wilson played really well. Russell Wilson, before the game ceiling fumble was playing solid football. That defense for the Denver Broncos is letting them down. Brees Hall said, hey, give me the ball. Give me the freaking ball more. They gave him the ball 22 times. I didn't understand why they were giving Dalvin Cook the ball more than Brees Hall when Brees Hall has clearly shown explosive ability last year and even this year.

And they wouldn't give him the ball. I just didn't make sense. I don't know what that was, but they got it corrected. He averaged eight yards a carry on 22 carries for 177 yards. Every time they needed a big play, he gave it to him. Zach Wilson did not lose him the game. He's playing much better football, better controlling the game, managing the game, making sure he doesn't turn the ball over, getting the ball to his playmakers in space.

He should be applauded for that. The Jets defense made plays when they need to. That D-Line was playing ferocious football. You saw the forced safety when Russell Wilson tried to throw the ball away because he was in the grasp and it ended up being an intentional grounding in the end zone. And then you just,

you go back to what Sean Payton said before the season even started. And he showed the Broncos driving off the cliff and how terrible Nathaniel Hackett was. And you start to think, you wonder, do those Denver players probably have a little bit of loyalty to Nathaniel Hackett?

Just a little bit. Because they don't have any loyalty to you yet, Sean, especially when you haven't shown them anything. You haven't shown them love. love and respect. You can't come into a program and say, hey, you guys know who I am. You need to respect me. I'll figure out if I'm going to respect you guys and if I'm going to know who you are. Like, that's not how you, that's not how you build a culture and build a team. You don't just sit there and say, hey, you guys suck last year, but I hear I come to save you. You talk to guys

eye to eye with respect and love and appreciation, and you guys build it together. And I think that's the problem. These guys could be one and eight. They could be one and eight going forward. I mean, they got a tough game against the Packers coming up. They play they play the Packers. Then I think they play the Chiefs. Then maybe it's Buffalo and then the Chiefs again. I mean, they have a schedule where they could lose the next, they could lose five of the next six and be in an uglier spot. And you look at last year when Nathaniel Hackett, they had won two games at this point. They had already won two games. So I think you saw that the New York Jets went out there and fought hard for Nathaniel Hack. You heard the players talk about it. How?

Let's win this one for Hack. that that's a love and that's a respect. That's a thing where guys are going to sacrifice a little more. They're going to dig a little deeper in this game to try to win it. Then you saw the Denver Broncos. They weren't fighting for Sean Payton. You don't see them digging a little deeper for Sean Payton. You don't even see them really disgusted when they lose.

You know, that defense, when they give up big plays, it's just like, hey, well, I mean, whatever. EG.R. Evero had that defense playing a whole different level than Vance Joseph has him playing. And you start to wonder, what changed? because a lot of the personnel is the same. But you still got a guy like at the corner position, Patrick Sartan still playing at a high level. But you just don't see the conviction there

and you wonder what's going to happen if this team is 1 in 8, 1 and 9 going forward. What did they do? This team's been a team without a pulse for the last couple of years now, Richard. And it's got to be unsettling in Denver. You know that? That's a fan base that's used to winning. And this is not what they signed up for over the last couple of couple years. Richard, Sean Peyton was the biggest name on the market. And he promised,

you know, he promised Denver the promised land. And right now it's not looking very good at all. Do you think Sean Payton's regretting taking this job at this point? I'm sure there's a part of him regretting it, but he also knows he has time. He has time. They traded a first round pick and gave him a lot of money. You're not just going to get rid of him. He's not on the hot seat because you can't. If you get rid of him, what you're going to do? Well, Richard, that concludes our week five recap. Thank you, everyone, for joining us on the Richard Sherman podcast. We appreciate

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