The Herd with Colin Cowherd - The Richard Sherman Podcast - Quandre Diggs on Seahawks' #5 pick, Geno Smith, recruiting Bobby Wagner
Episode Date: April 11, 2023Richard Sherman interviews Seattle Seahawks Pro Bowl safety Quandre Diggs. Quandre dives deep into his recruitment of Bobby Wagner back to Seattle after his year with the Rams, the major difference be...tween the cultures in Seattle and Detroit, and how Pete Carroll was a huge change from the "shitty" coaches he's had in the past. They discuss Geno Smith's new contract, the moment Quandre knew the Seahawks were going to be good without Russell Wilson, Pete Carroll running through a white board to inspire his team before their Week 1 win vs. the Broncos, and who they hope the Seahawks take with the fifth pick in the 2023 NFL Draft. Finally, the two Los Angeles Lakers fan give their takes on how far LeBron James will lead the Lakers in this year's NBA playoffs. #volume #herdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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We back at it again.
Welcome to the Richard Sherman podcast.
We got a special guest in the offseason giving us a little bit of his time.
Juan Dre Diggs, the ultimate recruiter, you know what I mean?
The number one free agent acquirer in the NFL.
Yes, sir.
You know, I just had to take it back some of my college days, sir.
I got to get the recruits, you know.
Right.
This was the five-star recruit that you had to get.
So, you know, I had to put all my time and effort and now.
Yeah, tell me, walk me through that process
because I was behind the scenes just observing and talking to Bob all the time.
But it meant a lot to him, you know, of what you was doing.
Well, it was crazy because I know Peter Jones gets sick of me
because I'm sending pictures, old pictures of me and Bobby together.
Like, in practice.
is, hey, I'm sitting in the pitchers after we played the Rams,
and me and Bobby talking and all type of stuff.
So I go on Twitter and, you know, I'm doing my tweets.
You know, you get the fans behind it.
You know, it's hard for the GM and for the coach
and let the fans down, too.
So, you know, I got the fans all with it.
So, you know, if it don't work out, the fans are going to start,
they're going to start talking trash.
They can't say nothing to me like, I ain't do it, you know.
Right.
So it started getting directed to other people.
So I'm like, yeah, I'm going to get this.
I'm going.
I had a whole day planned out.
Well, I ain't mad at it because it worked.
He appreciated it.
He wanted to be back in the city.
I think it was a great idea for both sides.
You know what I mean?
I don't think the divorce should have happened in the first place.
So I'm glad that got annulled,
and the relationship is continuing because it's a match made in heaven.
You got a great all-pro steal.
You know, he just went somewhere else to show y'all one time,
hey, I'm still an all-pro in case you forgot.
Exactly.
And did it out of high love with it.
To make it even worse, he was doing it.
He did it twice against us.
Made us look crazy out there.
That boy had the games of his life.
He had something on his mind.
Yeah.
And I think for him, it's just like,
it put him at, give him that peace of mind to be back home.
You know what I mean?
Be around the fan, be around all the guys that he's close to,
the cafeteria where you know how it is at the BMX.
So it just puts you in that comfort zone
when you get back to being yourself
and he goes do the all pro thing and just ball out
and be on and off the field.
I don't know if he would have came back
if they gave somebody 54.
I don't know.
I don't know if this would have worked out so sweet
if they gave somebody 54.
I'm going to let you know that.
So thank goodness.
E.K. held it down
and didn't get nobody 54.
Oh, you know that wasn't going to happen.
They couldn't do that, man.
They couldn't do that.
We got to get that 25 with that next, man.
That 25, it got to be up there in the Raptors next.
I appreciate that, man.
Hopefully one day.
But you've been thriving out here.
You know, tell me about that.
Because I ain't got a chance to talk to you as much as I want to
about the differences.
between, you know, your time in Detroit, you shine there.
So I remember meeting you with your cousin, Jammer, when you was a young, young kid.
Tell me about how your time in Seattle and how you've grown, you know what I mean,
you're a captain, you're the leader of that defense now, how things have changed
and how you've grown up since you left Detroit.
Sharon, you know that's my big brother.
Yeah.
No.
Yeah, that's my brother.
I thought it was your cousin this whole time.
That's your brother.
That's my brother, y'all.
That's the crazy thing.
Different last name.
But yeah, we got different dads, but that's my brother.
Grew up in the same house, all that.
So when I met you, I was 17 getting ready to go to Texas.
Yeah.
And I was out there.
I think Greg Camerillo had a camp.
That's exactly.
My brother was, he was coming out there to coach the DBs, and he was like,
you want to slide.
Still remember today, I remember meeting you at the camp.
And it was just like, dang.
And then you got to the league and started doing your day.
I'm like, oh, dang, he had gave me some words the encouragement.
Like before I went to Texas.
It's a small world, ain't it?
Small world, bro.
Being in Seattle, I still remember.
I tell people this all the time.
I remember my first game in Seattle,
we played y'all in 49ers.
And I remember after the game,
you came up to me and you, like,
bro, I'm just glad that you got to an organization
where people can see you shine.
And I'm like, hey, it's crazy that.
You was in Seattle, Legion of Boone,
which made DB.
That ain't a lot.
Y'all boys made DB fun again.
You know what I mean?
I appreciate that.
Because y'all was swag.
second to die, everybody, like, oh, them boys like that.
So as being a young guy, I'm in college, I'm like,
I want to get to a secondary like that, you feel me?
So, you know what I mean?
I still appreciate all that.
Even from 17 to when I was 26, when I had just got this Seattle,
like, that's still made a mark on my career already.
But going to Seattle was huge, bro.
Like, you know how it is.
You leave a place where, you know, it hasn't been a winning organization.
You know, I mean, you have turmoil, you have great players over there,
but you just never can seem to get it together or, you know,
you always feel like you got this curse and, you know,
people don't give Detroit the credit they deserve.
But, I mean, I love it.
I'm blessed that I was able to go there.
But coming to Seattle is just one of those things where you know you got to shine
if you would be beat.
Come in there, you go in the room, you see pictures of you, Earl, Cam, Jay Lane.
You know what I mean, BB, you know, then you got to.
you take it back to Sean Springs and all those guys.
And you started looking around, you're like,
bro, I got a standard up home,
which really reminded me a lot of Texas.
Because it's like that DB tradition at Texas is so proud
that you never want to let them guys down.
So for me, what I got over there is like, bro, I got a ball.
You know what I mean?
Earl, for me, Earl, in my eyes,
that's the second greatest safety to ever do it behind Ed Reed.
You know what I mean?
Talk about it.
E.T. in my mind, that's the second best.
So for me, that's always been a, you know, somebody that I patterned my game after somebody
that I always hit up for advice.
You know, hey, when I first got moved to safety, he was the first person I hit up.
Like, yo, hey, what you wait playing safety?
And I want to know, like, what you see.
And just the advice he given me, it was just like to go over there where he had made
his career.
And, you know, he left and it didn't end on a good note.
But it was like, you know, you bring another Texas guy here to kind of replace the Texas
guy. So I got to do my thing,
bro, right? Like, I can't let me grow down.
You know what I mean? And you're doing it.
Yeah, you know, and I just want to keep doing
it consistently. And, you know, you get over
there and, you know, you get around Pete,
you get around Bobby, you see
KJ, you see them guys in front of you.
I'm like, for me, I can't be
half stepping out here. I can't
have step. I got to do my thing.
So I think just the level of competition,
the players that you're around, that also
makes you a better play. No question.
I mean, I figured you had to be watching
We had Texas' very own ET3.
So I knew you had to be keeping us on the docket.
But you can see how Pete really cultivates the culture.
You know what I mean?
How he lets everybody go out there.
They kind of lost their way for a second.
But they're getting back to just, hey, roll a ball out there,
let everybody go out there and fight for who going to start, who's not,
and it's going to settle.
It's going to settle.
The cream going to rise to the top.
The guys are supposed to be out there going to be out there.
And it's going strong.
Yeah, and that's how it's supposed to be, bro.
It's all about competition.
I mean, you know me, bro.
I'm probably the smallest safety in the league, you feel me?
But at the end of the day, I always, in my mind,
you can't tell me I ain't six, three, two, 15 out there.
You feel me?
Like, I'm going to get it.
Come on now.
That's how you got to be, you know,
when you step into that organization.
Because I remember Will Blackman hit me as soon as I got traded.
He was like, hey, better buckle your cleats up because you're going out.
Well, competition, everything is competition.
And I'm like, oh, let me get right.
You feel me?
But once you step in the building, you understand, like, this old man competitive as hell,
he want to beat you in basketball.
He want to beat you in sprints.
So if my coach acting like this, then I got to bring that too because he competing with
them other coaches that, you know, around the league, the Bill Belichicks.
He wants to compete by his legacy and what he got to do.
So, you know what I mean?
It just brings it.
It bring the best out of everybody.
It definitely does.
And then there's fun.
You know what I mean?
You get to have fun at your job.
I don't know how it was in Detroit.
I'm not going to speak.
on the organization I wasn't a part of, but I can speak on Seattle's.
You know, I was there.
So you got the music in the meetings.
You got the fun videos.
You got Pete making jokes.
Music at practice.
Music everywhere.
You know what I mean?
You're having a good time.
But when you get between them lines, you better strap it up and strap it up tight.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, no question.
It's all fun and games.
You know, you can be fun and have fun with D.K.
And, said, two hours later, that boy trying to crack block you at practice.
It gets real.
So you're like, yeah, that's my brother.
that's my brother. Then you look and he hit you and you're like,
man, I'm about to fight it, bro.
Like, chill out.
Yeah, like, it's totally different.
You know, coming from Detroit, bro, it was no fun at all.
My last year and a half there, we ain't had no fun.
So when I came to Seattle, it was like completely different, bro.
I'm in the meetings like, what's going on in here?
You feel?
It's like, what's y'all doing in here?
Like coaches yelling.
You know, we're shooting hoops.
They got the videos on.
And you're like, bro, ain't no way.
So it just makes it more fun where, you know what I mean?
I can have fun at work, but I can also handle business at work.
And that's how it's supposed to be.
That's exactly how it's supposed to be.
You know, I wish they would have just draft you there in the first place.
You know, who knows what would have been happening then, but that's a story for a different day.
Yeah, I get on about that still.
You're right, right, right.
I mean, shit, look, come on now.
But you still, the first safety in NFL history with six seasons, a three-plus interceptions.
So you still, you know what I mean, no matter where you was at,
you were shining.
Got to get it wherever you can, you feel me?
Tell me about Gino, you know,
because obviously it was, you know,
coming in the last season,
there was a lot of unknowns after Russ left,
and, you know, people didn't know what to expect in Gino.
Gino had played in the league for a decade,
been a backup for a while,
didn't have a great couple years,
but again, wasn't part of a great organization,
didn't have a great support system,
went out there, been putting in the work,
and went out there and shine.
Yeah, yeah.
You had to be excited to see him get resigned
and see his contract.
Yeah, bro.
I'm hell of excited for what's happened for him now.
You feel me with the contract, being able to know that you're the long-time guy in Seattle.
But you could just see the work that he was putting in.
I remember when I first got there, you feel me, I get there,
and I go introduce myself to, you know, because we played against each other in college.
And I go introduce myself.
He's like, bro, I know who you is.
You ain't got to introduce yourself.
You feel, me?
And it's like, I ain't better.
So, you know, we go to practice.
Everybody, you know, you hear the stories.
You know, oh, Gino Smith, you know how they try to play.
paint you a picture of, you know, this guy's a bus, you know, he ain't did nothing.
And I get out there, and he's spinning the bar.
I'm like, ah, leave, like, that dude can spin the ball.
And you get out there, he's running the scout team.
And, you know, we got turnover Thursday.
And, you know, he's supposed to be throwing picks and he's dicing us up.
Dice him us up.
And I'm like, bro, so Pete and him kind of get on him.
Like, hey, you know, it's turn over Thursday.
You got to, gee, like, I'm not throwing picks, brus.
So y'all get rid of me.
Like, I'm out here competing, bro.
I'm trying to get better.
Like, if y'all can't pick the ball off
when I'm throwing it to the open receiver,
then that's on y'all.
And from then on, I knew where his mindset was at.
You feel me?
His mindset was like, bro, I'm trying to get better
because I'm trying to be a starter in the lead.
And for three years, brother, he was just doing it.
Every day, every day, you know what I mean?
Competition, you seen working before at the practice,
doing practice.
Got his op, you know.
Russ got hurt that one year.
He got hurt.
He came in, and we didn't win.
We won one game out of the three, I think.
But you could just see, like, he's knocking some rush off.
You know, he's spinning the ball.
He's making the right reeds.
He ain't throwing kicks.
You know, he's protecting the ball.
You know what I mean?
So we go in.
We play these games, and he's doing a good job,
and he's so hard on himself that he comes in.
He's playing himself.
We're like, bro, we could have played better too.
Gee, it ain't just you.
Like, we could have played better there.
And then, you know, he came out that Jaguar's game.
I think he started, like, 14 for 14 or something like that.
And he was just letting it spin.
And the receivers, they're loving it.
Like, oh, bro, like, you know, he's throwing, we're getting the ball on time.
Right.
Out of his break, out of your breaks?
Yeah, you know what I mean?
Like, you know, we just, we're going.
And, you know, obviously he had to go back to the bench when Rush came back.
But all training camp last year, you could just see it.
I never forget this.
I'll never forget this.
And I know people would be having these things to say with Dan Ogloski and all this.
But Dan was my quarterback, back on quarterback at Detroit.
So me and Dan got a good relationship.
Dan came to practice last.
and Dan was like, bro, I'm telling you all right now,
Gino Smith need to be y'all starting quarterback.
He was like, I could just see for one day of practice, like, what he's on.
I'm like, okay, okay, I feel you.
Like, I see it too.
Did he go out there and start doing that?
And everybody's like, everybody amazed from the outside.
But for us, we like, that's how he was dicing us up doing scout team every week.
So then you get him a good running game.
You got two of the better receivers in the league.
You know what I mean?
And you give him some good tight ends.
young old lineman, you know, I think he was just locked in, ready to go.
And, you know, he's been talking his talk on Twitter for the last two years.
And now people are really just seeing it because now he had this big year.
But he's been talking his talk for a while.
Right.
I mean, he's stepping that step.
So I, talk that talk, you back it up.
Hey, get out of his weight.
Rumble, young man, rumble.
Facts.
That's facts.
Yeah, I'm excited for him.
I mean, because at the quarterback position, you've been healthy.
I mean, he hasn't gotten to play for a couple years, you know.
and then gotten them reps on his body.
So people are like, man, he in his 10th year.
It's like, I mean, he really like in his sixth, fifth or sixth.
So he can play as long as his body will let him.
And the way he's spinning it, don't look like the velocity is going anywhere.
So, y'all, better be watch out.
Right, because he's spinning that rock right now.
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How different was Pete than what you expected him to be?
Oh, it's funny.
Because, you know, you see him on TV, you know, all you see him chewing gum and you see
all the other stuff.
And, you know, you see the excitement and stuff like that.
But when I first got there, I didn't really know, like, how big of a competitor he is.
It's serious.
Yeah.
Like, I didn't understand it.
And it was kind of like, ah, lady like, bro, I ain't never, you know, you always hear
the stories, even from USC and things like that.
But you just don't believe it until you see it.
Then you see how light he is and you see how routine oriented he is, you know.
When, lose, a draw.
You're going to have the same Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday.
You know what I mean?
That's just what it is, which is cool because you know what they expect.
Right.
You know what you're going to get from.
No matter if you lost two games in a row, you're going to get the same peep.
And it's funny because, like, you play for these legendary coaches.
You know, guys have won championship in college, championship in the league,
just winning record, all this.
You see what they're about.
They got their way of doing things, and that's what they believe in.
And he don't try to bite anybody's style.
He's going to be him.
You know what I mean?
He's going to do it his way and he thinks his way is the best way, which to each his own,
that's how it is.
Same way I think, hey, if I do this in a pose, I think that's the right way for me because
that's what works for me.
But that's how Pete is.
And he's a hell of motivated.
You know, I mean, he can get anybody to believe in anything.
Anything.
He can have you thinking that you the best ever.
Right.
Just from the way he talks in.
You know, I mean, when you believe that and, you know, you hear that, you like,
like, okay, like this guy is different.
He's different.
You know, everyone has pros and cons,
but definitely the pros outweighed con, you know, by far,
because I've had three different head coaches.
I've had two great ones and I had one shitty one.
And, you know, I mean, being around Pete and being around Jim Powell,
you know, it's kind of changed my life
and taught me the game a lot more than what I've experienced with another one.
Pete's, like you said, he's a great motivator.
He's consistent.
You know what you're going to get weekend and week out.
He's optimistic.
He coaches optimistically.
competitively, but he coaches optimistically and you feel like it's fair.
You don't feel like, hey, somebody cheating me, somebody running me around.
Like, hey, on that tape, what we're going to see it in front of everybody.
I don't know if they still do it.
During training camp, if you getting cooked, it's on the screen.
If you're bawling, it's on the screen.
Like, you can't hide from nothing.
You can't, the whole team see who you are.
Like, you'd be like, man, I should have made the team.
I don't know, brother.
I saw you on that tape on the bad side of that tape.
Way too many times, brother.
A lot, right?
You see it, and it don't matter who you is.
That's what I love.
Like, if I go out there and get cooked in one-on-one,
they're going to put it on the screen,
and everybody's going to see me get cooked,
which is cool.
They're my teammate.
Just because I got the respect and, you know, I've done this and that,
it's still got to be put out there.
Like, bro, buddy won his rep.
I lost it.
Like, and I got to be cool with that because that's who I am.
Like, and it's going to bring that competitive dog out of you.
And like, hey, I'm not by the bill on that tape.
Right.
Or I'm going to be on that tape because y'all know, hey, come on now.
This is why they paid me the big bucks.
Right.
It's strapped.
But that's what made us and allowed us to be great.
And I hope he goes back to the scheme, man.
I know he, like, man, it's outdated.
People found answers to it.
People got answers to everything.
Yeah.
People got answers to everything.
The way the scheme works, you can cover up the holes.
The holes are there, but at least Pete and the staff know exactly how to cover up those
And when you do it enough, it's just like everything else.
You're wrapping enough, you see the looks enough.
You'd be like, oh, here they come.
Yeah, it's two by two or.
It's three by one, speed at three.
Hey, weak hook, you better bag it up.
Back it up.
Right.
Ain't no pay accident.
You better get back.
You better get back.
Let them have that six yards on that run.
They're going to have his 45.
Yeah.
No, I agree, bro.
That scheme, like, you know exactly what beat you in that scheme.
I mean, it ain't no guessing. You know, you got that hook, but you also got to get in this
run game and this B gap and these 30 allowments. But you got to know tendencies. You got to know
what team's doing. Speed at three, boom. If I got a tight end at three, I ain't really got to move
as much. But if you're at post-sat, you know, you got your scene. You better handle that scene
before you go do anything else, you feel me? But I think when it comes to it, it's just got to be,
yeah, if you're going to stick that scheme, you got to have guys that know that scheme in and out
and it can't be, you know, I'm guessing here
and you guess and you're wrong.
If you guess, you better be right
because my coach would tell me in college,
I used to go get a lot of picks in college
in my first two years,
and I would be doing some stuff I ain't supposed to do.
He was like, I love the ball on skills,
but I tell you what,
if they throw this ball in your man catch it
and you're so well as you ain't supposed to be,
you're going to be sitting right beside me.
And from then on, it was like,
yeah, you got to make calculated guesses.
It can't be.
I thought this because, you know what I mean?
You got to be right.
And you got to be like, you know what I mean?
You're all wrong?
You're all right.
Exactly.
If you guessing and we own the same, until it's fine.
We've had many situations.
People are like, man, y'all running quarters or what you're running?
Because we can't recognize it sometime.
It's like because he told me he was going to chase this.
He was going to sit flat at 10 yards as the middle field safety.
So I had to be over the top.
So when they ran that deep post and I'm over the top,
it's because I knew the deep post was coming and E was going to be standing flat.
So if they run a bang post,
he probably either picking it or banging.
If they run that deep post, I better be there.
We talked about it.
We know.
Yeah, that's how I got to be.
That's exactly how I got to be.
And I just think we kind of got away because, you know,
you get young guys in there and, you know, young guys,
they want to do everything the coaches say, you feel what I'm in?
Yeah, coach might have tell you this,
but coach ain't out here on this field.
So listen to what we're saying out here, you know what I mean?
Like, if you got a blitz and, you know what I mean,
and you feel like something up,
and come out to blitz and go do something to go,
make a play, you know what I mean?
So I think that's just how I play the game.
That's how, you know, Bobby plays the game yourself.
You know, even Jamal.
You know what I mean?
Everybody goes, how the heck, Jamal always in the run game?
He's shooting gaps because he knows that run coming.
You know what I mean?
And he telling me, hey, Diggy, I'm going.
He's good, and I got him, you know what I mean?
But that's how you got to play the game.
You play the game smarter, not harder.
Not harder.
You keep it simple.
And that's what I'm telling the Pete, like, hey, keep it simple, baby.
Like, you got to talent now, you know, you got young,
Rieke is a good player. He's a good corner. He's showing, but don't make him overthink it.
Mike Jack's a good player. Y'all had really good corners. You got good safety play.
You got Bobby back. When Brooks comes back, whenever he comes back healthy, you got
Kevin Bush, really athletic. You got D. Lyman. Jaron Reed just came back. Hopefully y'all can
bring Big Al back. You got dudes that are smart, like veteran, like championship mindset, championship
players, play a scheme where everybody, hey, we all on the same page. Gap, gap, gap, gap.
Gap sound.
Like, hey, read a zebra in the back end.
Hey, you know what's coming.
It's going to be seams.
It's going to be post.
It's going to be seven pump.
It's going to be OVS.
Like, get it covered, deep to short,
make them boys walk the ball down the field.
Eventually, they're going to give it to us.
Yeah.
I know.
Exactly how I go.
Is it true Pete ran through a goddamn whiteboard or something?
Somebody told me that I said,
Pete ain't ran through it now.
I know Pete did a lot of stuff.
He ain't running through the whiteboard now.
He ran through the whiteboard.
Before we played Denver,
the night before the game.
They'd gassed him up,
Sherm, he ran through it once.
All out here, boom.
I'm like, what's going on, bro?
So then they gas him,
but they're like, do it again, do it again.
He set the board back up,
ran through it again.
That's the intensity we got to play with tomorrow
and all this.
I'm like, all right, all right,
you ain't young as you used to be.
You ain't going to make it to the game.
Right, but, yeah, that's just what,
that's what he was, you know,
that game meant a lot to him,
for show, for show.
So he was, he was,
he was, he was,
up. It meant a lot to the program.
Oh, yeah. You start
seeing boys show up that they've showed up in a minute.
I said, you can tell it meant a lot to the program.
That's true. That's true for so.
Hey, I know you've been watching my Lakers now.
Come on, bro. You know that. I'm all Bron.
Hey, we're doing it. You know what I mean?
LeBron and Lakers fans,
unite. For once, I just hope for once
that the LeBron fans and the Lakers fans
can just put all their differences inside.
and just all be one big happy family,
brother.
Like, you know, they over 500,
they finished like three games over 500
at the start two and 10.
Come on now.
They were like, let's go, bro.
Let's just keep going.
Let's keep the positive vibes going.
I think they got them,
they lucked up a little bit
with buddy breaking his hand other day.
The buddy was strapping, bro.
And Gobert.
Yeah.
And Gobert want to punch on somebody.
Hey, make sure you all suspend him now.
Right.
Don't go to the other.
Don't get me.
You're not.
One game.
One game.
He just needs to be suspended.
One game.
He can play the next.
Oh, bro.
That's what I'm saying.
So I'm like, yeah, but they might do something.
I like them though.
They get in at seven, you know, a young Memphis team, which is exciting, but they're young.
You know, they ain't got no championship mentality, so let's go see.
And Stephen Adams out?
Yeah.
That's a big deal for AD.
A.D., with Stephen Adams, it is, you know what I mean?
I ain't saying he bullying, but he's been having his hands full.
He bullied him.
You know what that's mode, now.
Stephen Adams is out there like, hey, my paint, you stay over there, shoot threes or something.
Oh, yeah.
You know that.
So I think they, I mean, they win.
I think that'd be good.
It'd be a good series for sure.
Yeah, it'd definitely be a good series.
I think playoff bronze is going to come out.
You know, I'm happy for Russ, too.
I'm happy for Russ.
Russ got to a situation.
That pressure with a Lagers jersey on is something else.
You know what I mean?
Not that he couldn't handle it.
It's just Lagers fans, as you are seeing, as a Bronn fan, you didn't migrate to
few fan bases.
Lagos fans
I'm one of.
Yeah.
You're tough on them now.
Oh yeah, y'all tough for sure,
but I was tough on Russie too.
You know what I mean?
Like, you go to home.
You got to know what they expect
when you get to the crib.
So all the pressure is gonna be on you,
but I think that was the best of a situation that.
I think he became a scapegoat,
but I also think that, you know,
I mean, they got some good young pieces
for training him.
And I think those pieces get better
around Brown than what Rusty.
I think so, too.
I think that was the problem.
Like, it didn't matter
what Russ, unless Russ changed his whole game
and just became a three-point sniper or something,
you know what I mean?
His game wasn't going to fit.
Y'all both can't just drive the lane every at the day in time.
Right.
Like, that's why DeAngelo Russell,
DeAngelo Russell just be sitting on that three-point line waiting.
Oh, wide open three?
Fuck you.
Yeah.
And Malibu usually got a green light,
but he just need to make some more.
They're going to get him out of the Lankan quick.
Look, they're going to get Lonnie Walker back out there in a second.
Like, hey, if you ain't going,
if you're just going to be shooting to be shooting,
we can put Lani Walker out there.
Skywalker get that thing done too.
Yeah, but what I'm saying?
So they already are his head.
I'm like, all right, that's how it goes.
So I hope, you know, I mean, I hope they have a deep playoff run.
You feel me?
I know the sun's going to be tough, though.
Yeah, that's going to be a good series too.
Because Clippers are a better fit for him, you know what I mean?
You got dudes that can shoot.
Lane going to be open, a good big man that can spread it.
He can get out the way sometime.
And there you go, Russ.
You can drive the lane, pass it out.
Doos is going to hit the shots.
That team, boy, it'd be some nights where I was like, like, we should
Sure these NBA players now.
Y'all sure.
Y'all didn't test it these, dude,
because we getting a lot of wide-open threes,
and I didn't hit, I hit one out of 13.
I hit one.
You give me 13 shots at it.
I hit one.
And I feel like that's where we was at.
No, no question.
That's definitely where he was at.
It was bad.
Boy, hit side of the back board,
all the type of stuff.
So, yeah, I'm glad they did move to around a little bit.
Me too.
Well, I appreciate you coming on.
If you got some questions for me, feel free.
But otherwise, I ain't going to take no more of your day.
Oh, yeah, no, you know me.
You know, if I got questions, I always hit you.
I'll hit you.
You know, the only thing I will say,
hey, I just remember your face.
That pick I dropped against the $40.
I mean, hey, you don't know how mad I was, bro.
Because I couldn't lift my arm.
So, you know, before the game I seen you,
I dabbed you all had my arm like tight,
but I couldn't lift my arm.
So that's why I tried to cradle it like that.
That's the worst one.
and all I can think in my head
when I see you in the video,
I'm like, damn, I didn't let Shirm down,
dropping the pig, bro.
Look, I mean, I was so conflicted to that game,
but I was cheer for you.
I'm always cheering for you.
I'm cheering for you.
I'm cheering for you.
But when you dropped that,
because I was like, oh, people are to half?
You're about to act like that?
No, I was sick.
And the coaches knew.
So when it came to the side,
they were like, you came to lift your arm.
I'm like, I was like,
I wouldn't even try to catch it like that
if I could lift my arm.
It was like, so when I seen the video of you, I'm like, I'm the texture,
but I was so mad in my head that I had dropped it.
I'm like, I ain't talking to nobody all weekend, bro.
Right.
I just had my daughter.
That was going to be, that would have broke their back right there.
That would have been a backbreaker because they were struggling.
Already, y'all was strapping them.
And you would have took that and probably got kind of nasty with it.
He got a little points before a half.
I would have been like, all right, now,
because that's exactly when you got that.
I was about to talk you up the rest of the half.
I was about to go on that desk and be like,
that's why he, man.
Hey, I'm going to get it back, no, I'm going to get it back for show,
so, you know, I always get San Francisco at least once a year.
No question.
And then you got them Rams in the clutch and pointed at Bob said, come back home.
Yeah, that's what I would tell them.
You know, they find me for that, too.
NFL lame for that.
They're super lame.
Because they're going to show it on the highlights,
but they're going to find you for it for sure.
Oh, yeah, that's exactly what it is.
So Bobby appreciated it, though.
He said, he was like, bro, I, I,
I want to trip you.
You were just perfect because, sir, before every series, right,
but I know what Bobby's saying.
So before every series, I would walk out there and I would be looking at Bobby doing this.
Before every series, he's talking about it.
So when I got the pick, it was like, oh, it's perfect.
So I just showed him the ball, you feel me?
But it was funny, bro.
We talked about that for a while.
I bet.
I bet.
That best feel good to call game, boy.
It feels good to call game or the book.
Yeah, that's probably my favorite one
because that got us in the playoffs
and gave the perfect opportunity
to, you know what I mean,
discredit all the people that were out
they ain't making no playoffs and really.
So, I mean, it felt great.
That's one of my favorite ones.
I got that one.
I'm definitely put that one up in the house somewhere.
No question.
You deserve it.
You're going to have many more
and you're going to get some in the playoffs now.
You know what I mean?
Now, you've got, look, a good scheme.
Everybody on the same page.
Trust it.
It's going to be a top 10 defense.
I'm calling it right now.
Top five past defense.
Don't make me crazy.
Hey, let's get it.
You know, I'm with it.
Yeah, I can't wait.
And Gino's going to be slanging.
Who do you think y'all getting with five?
Man, hey, you know what I, what I hope is,
I hope they get four straight quarterbacks
so we can get buddy from Bamma.
Right.
Selfishly, hey, I ain't mad at that.
Look, look, Seahawks got a crazy.
I think if he ain't there,
the boy from Bam ain't there,
that boy from Georgia, they're going to be sitting there like,
mm-hmm, he did that,
mm-hmm, damn, man, I show do with the number five pick,
the Seattle Seahawks pick out of Georgia,
defensive tackle.
Hey, I take him.
They say he's the best player in the draft.
I mean, he's been losing itself some money over the last couple months,
but he getting tilt-tile, he gets around Bobby,
you feel he's coming around, Cliff keep coming around,
you get the right people around, and he'll learn, you know what I mean,
Hey, I'm coming around, y'all boys be around and Bobby and KJ around.
And, you know, all the people we got on the team, I think that'll be a great fit.
Yeah, they're not going to let him leave Seattle.
After the Malik McDowell situation, they're not, that boy ain't getting on the plane once he get here.
They're going to be like, yeah, okay, make sure you say everything you need to to your family.
This is your establishment.
Look, it might get him an apartment right next to the facility.
This is where you live.
You just got to walk to work.
We'll have a security escort with you at all times.
Right.
Welcome to Seattle, baby.
Yeah. Do what you got to do to make it play.
Right, right. Well, I appreciate you, brother.
We got to have you on again.
After you get six picks next year, I'm going to have you.
I'm going to call you again, you know, when you calm down
and all the rest of the media get you and get you back on.
Say less, I'm going for that all pro this year.
I can't wait. I'm going to be hyping you up.
You already said it.
So I'm going to put it out there with you.
I'm going to be, I'm going to be on that desk.
We won't even have y'all game.
I'm going to be talking you up.
Yeah, so I know you saw.
Yeah, so we got the Cincinnati Bengals
in the Pittsburgh Steelers,
but Cuan-Dade digs, I know you had to see.
Yo, I need that.
I need that all pro to my name.
Yeah, yeah, I can't wait.
Yes, sir.
Well, appreciate you for having me, my dog, I'll wait.
Anytime, brother, I'll talk to you soon.
Yes, sir.
All right, though.
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