The Herd with Colin Cowherd - The Richard Sherman Podcast - Week 14 Reaction: Buccaneers-49ers, Eagles-Giants, Chiefs-Broncos, Seahawks loss

Episode Date: December 12, 2022

Richard Sherman reacts to Week 14 in the NFL, highlighted by the San Francisco 49ers' dominant win over Tom Brady and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Richard gives his takes on 49ers QB Brock Purdy's perfor...mance, the injury to Deebo Samuel and why he believes Jalen Hurts is the MVP after the Philadelphia Eagles rolled over the New York Giants while Patrick Mahomes struggled against Russell Wilson's Denver Broncos. Does Richard still believe in the Seattle Seahawks after their loss to the Carolina Panthers? #volume #herd #colincowherdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:31 I think it's, I don't think it is upsets, Rich. I think this is reality. I think we're facing reality and we're far enough along in the season. Some teams are battling adversity with injuries. You see the Niners, you know, battling adversity with injuries. But I think the cream is starting to rise to the top here, Rich. Let's start in Buffalo, you know, a team that has been playing at a high level all season against your favorites. I know you love the Jets.
Starting point is 00:02:59 but they just couldn't get it done today. Rich, talk to me about that game. It was interesting. It was back and forth. You know, some of the most pivotal plays came when Mike White was out of the game. You know, obviously, Flacco had a fumble that gave Buffalo the ball in Jets territory. That was a huge play in the ball game and just some uncharacteristic mistakes by the defense. But Buffalo played well, the conditions.
Starting point is 00:03:22 It was cold. It was a cold game. But the Jets still holding on to the final playoff spot. They still have hope. They're going to be all right. Mike White, you know, had to go to the hospital. They thought his rib was broken, but he boarded the team playing. So that's positive news for them.
Starting point is 00:03:36 Zonovan Knight is still having a really good season. I mean, he was a nobody. He was a no-name, you know, going in. And now he's a really important part of their offense. Quinn and Williams, two sacks, 11 on the season from the detackle position. You'd be talking about defense player at a year any other season. But they, you know, he obviously went out with a calf injury, hopefully nothing too serious. But Josh Allen held 16 for 147, a touchdown, 10 rush.
Starting point is 00:03:59 is 47. Greg Rousseau, two sacks. It was a winnable game, but, you know, that's how division games are. They're greedy, they're grimy, you know, and it's on to the next. But I think it was, it still shows good hope, you know, it still shows positive things for both teams. Obviously, Buffalo 4 straight wins. They're feeling good about themselves. But I'm just trying to figure out, Mitchell, how did your Detroit Lions beat the Minnesota Vikings,
Starting point is 00:04:25 I was waiting for this day, Rich. I have been waiting a long time. I'm rocking the Honolulu Blue. I got a Detroit Lion shirt on. I don't know where this was in my closet. How long did it take to dust that thing off, man? Dude, I had to wash it twice, man. It's been sitting in there for so long.
Starting point is 00:04:42 But, I mean, God bless it. They look good, Rich. I mean, all week long, you know, we're hearing about it. They make national news is one of the first five and seven teams to be a favorite against a 10 and 2. My Minnesota Vikings team. I mean, going in two-point favorite. I saw they were as high as two and a half point favorites before kickoff. And they showed why.
Starting point is 00:05:04 Right out the gates. I mean, dude, this team is getting, they're healthy, Rich, which I think is probably the most vital thing, right? I mean, this team, they got Jameson Williams back, quick hit touchdown, first touchdown of the game. I'm excited, man, but I'm more excited to hear while you have to say about them because I've been drinking the Kool-A for far too long. Well, Mitchell, well, Mitchell, Lions offense has been fun all season.
Starting point is 00:05:28 and they've been fun. It would have been really great if they could have got some of those one-score games and won those. They seem to not be able to pull those out. The Thanksgiving game against Buffalo being the most recent. But they've scored 25 plus in five straight games. That's a good offense. You know, they've won five at the last six. They're rolling.
Starting point is 00:05:46 Jared Golf is looking like a guy. He's looking like he wants Detroit to not draft the quarterback in the first round next year. But will Detroit listen to him and think they're all right and go for another position? Who knows? But they're feeling really good about him. He had 27 to 39 for 3.30 and three touchdowns, no turnovers. DJ Chart had a really productive game, 6 for 94. Aiden Hutchinson had a sack.
Starting point is 00:06:11 And like you said, James and Williams had the touchdown, they look good. But if you would have told me before this game that Kirk Cousins, 31 of 41 for 425 and two touchdowns, no interception. Justin Jefferson has a franchise record 11 catches for 223. Mitchell, I don't see them losing that game. and they lost it by double digits, Mitchell. What is going on? Are they, like, they don't want to play no defense?
Starting point is 00:06:34 Richard, you know, being a Detroit Lions fan and other Detroit Lions fan can sympathize with me on this, the Kirk Cousin stat line is eerily similar to to what Matt Stafford used to put up in Detroit, right? These gaudy, madden-like numbers in double-digit losses. You know, the Lions got ahead. They put pressure on the Vikings. the Vikings were playing behind all day, you know, and Kirk Cousins just had to sling the rock to try to play catch up.
Starting point is 00:07:02 And guess what happens when you do that, Rich? You put up these fantastic numbers that if someone didn't watch the game, they think, how the heck does a team not win with that stat line? It's because the Detroit Lions played aggressive all game, and they put their foot on the Vikings neck. This is what Dan Campbell's been preaching all season long, but he's doing it smart now, right? I mean, it was a little risky, you know, going forward on fourth down from your own 26 on a fake punt.
Starting point is 00:07:30 But that sealed the game. I mean, he's not doing these crazy fourth and five, you know, conversions that he was doing earlier in the season. He's playing to his team strengths. And that's, you know, controlling the clock, you know, running the football, taking her deep shots. I mean, Jared Gough is something I never thought he would be. And that's a very capable quarterback. And I think the Lions just might have to extend them, Rich. I never, ever, ever thought I would be saying that.
Starting point is 00:07:52 Mitchell, they may have to, and they can continue to build their defense up, maybe get another pass rusher in a draft because offensively, they look good. They look like they have the pieces. They'll continue to mature. They'll continue to get better. And, you know, you got to feel good about Dan Campbell. Obviously, the season started really rocky. People were calling for his job and things have evened out.
Starting point is 00:08:12 But then you got the Kansas City Chiefs in the Denver Broncos. This looked like a route, Mitchell, and then it was. Yeah. I mean, we were texting throughout the game and it got away quick. And Denver put themselves in that hole. It was something that we talked about last week. I mean, you come out slow against this Kansas City Chiefs team and people are going to laugh you right off the field.
Starting point is 00:08:34 And we saw some of those emotions starting to boil over. I mean, Jerry Judy was going nuts. I thought he should have gotten kicked out of the game, frankly, for context of some of revenue. I'm sure he will. I'm surprised he didn't get kicked out of the game. But it's a good thing he didn't, having three touchdowns on the game. after that. But, you know, Rich, this just goes to show you what the Broncos has been dealing with
Starting point is 00:08:56 all season. They just can't seem to figure it out. It's great that they put 28 on the board today, but in a losing effort. I mean, you got to give them credit. They got better. You know, this is the time where most teams would fold against a team like that down 28. Oh, you would think a team gives up. Russell Wilson, you're praying for his health, you know, went down with an obvious concussion and it, you know, looked really severe. But before that, he was playing his best game of season, through for 247, two touchdowns, four rushes for 57 touchdowns. I mean, 57 yards, that's something we hadn't seen earlier in the season, and that was him, you know, taking control, and that's him showing his team he's all in. Jerry Judy, like you said, three receiving
Starting point is 00:09:35 touchdowns. Josie Jewel, two interceptions, and Patrick Sertan, the second, PS2, finally got him a book. He's on the board. And that's concern for the Kansas City Chiefs, because they, they collapsed. a bit in the second half. You know, they, they, 28-0, they were up. And then the next 21 points go to the Denver Broncos and three interceptions for Patrick Mahomes. Like, that's uncharacteristic, especially at this time of the year. Jerich McKinnon had a really great game. Everybody's going to see the highlight where Pat Mahomes just tosses it up blindly and Derek McKinnett takes it for the long touchdown. But you, but you're concerned because it's still reckless ball, you know, he's getting away with it. He's, he's not getting away with it at times. But you're concerned when
Starting point is 00:10:19 when that defense gives up 21 unanswered points, the offense kind of gets stagnant in the second half. But again, the Broncos have lost 14 straight to the Kansas City Chiefs. So apparently as nothing has changed, Travis Kelsey, 10,000 career yards, you know, for a tight end. Fewest games to reach it by a tight end. Obviously, been balling for a long time. But again, we're praying for Russell Wilson's health. What, what, what, what, Seattle just cannot stop the run.
Starting point is 00:10:48 Like, good night. Right, Mitchell. We're going to move to Seattle quickly here, Rich. I hate to say, I kind of saw this coming. I mean, again, we kind of go back to this being, that point in the season where we look at teams that are potentially fraudulent. I don't want to call Seattle fraud. I like their team. They're battling injuries.
Starting point is 00:11:09 But they were bound to get caught by one of these losses eventually, Rich. They've been flirting with it. They flirted with the Rams last week. And they finally got caught. I mean, talk to me. Are you nervous? with Seattle going down the stretch? Because it's do or die now, Rich.
Starting point is 00:11:24 I mean, I'm not nervous, but I'm not confident. You know, I'm just not confident in the defense. Offensively, they're getting it done. They're still scoring points. This is probably Gino's worst game, and he still threw for three touchdowns. He threw those two interceptions. One of them, he thought it was a free play.
Starting point is 00:11:36 I think the refs missed one. But his receivers are looking good. You know, six straight game for Tyler Lockett with a touchdown. Marquis got, I mean, Marquis Goodwin had his best game, five catches for 95 yards and a touchdown. looked really good. He's creating another avenue for them, but they cannot run the ball.
Starting point is 00:11:54 They can't run the ball and they can't stop the run. Like, that's the worst thing you can pretty much have, Mitchell. You can't not be able to run the ball and not be able to stop the run. Like, that's going to be hard. Every game, Carolina rushes for 224 yards. You know, you're talking about every week they're giving up astronomical numbers rushing the football. And then you have the San Francisco 49ers coming in on a short week.
Starting point is 00:12:17 and they're going to run the ball. Christian McCaffrey's coming off his best game as a San Francisco 49ers, a lot of long runs, and they're going to feed him. You already lost Rashad Penny. This is a game they desperately needed Rashad Penny. With Kenneth Walker, the third being out this game, they lose their one-two punch.
Starting point is 00:12:34 Travis Homer's never been that guy, you know, pretty much a third downback by nature with his game, and he's expected to tote the rock. They're left in a very tough position. And if K-9's not back on Thursday night full, It might be a pretty tough game for them. I mean, the Niners. Looking to get more out of this NFL season?
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Starting point is 00:15:26 Listen to the Clifford show on the IHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok podcast network on TikTok. Let's talk about the Niners real quick because they look, they look different, Rich, and I'm sure you can agree with that. Yeah, Mitchell, they look pretty good. Mitchell had to. It's just low-hanging fruit. Look, they look great. The kid looked great. And there are people saying that Kyle is opening his playbook more for this kid than he did for Traylands and Jimmy Gorlopolo.
Starting point is 00:16:00 It's a totally different game. He's tossing it up. He got Christian McCaffrey out wide, running go routes, tossing it up to him. He's throwing double moves to Brandon Ayukle on the outside. We hadn't seen that all season pretty much. Like, a little bit underthrown, but, hey, touchdown right before the half, we'll take it. And then you watch him scramble for a touchdown. Like, that's a dynamic that Jimmy G could not have brought, you know, in that situation. You're looking for a touchdown. He created more time. Found a lane, made a guy miss, scored a touchdown.
Starting point is 00:16:27 Dean defensively. My goodness. Nicholas John Vosa went sackless this game, unfortunately. But they held him scoreless in the first half. They gave up a touchdown in the second half. But they played phenomenal. Drake Greenlaw, man, he looks like an all-pro. If it wasn't for all-pro Fred, you'd be talking about all-pro Dre.
Starting point is 00:16:43 Big play Dre is making huge play. plays weekend and week out. I mean, Diomador-Zanor is playing really solid football quietly. He's been starting for the past couple of games since they, you know, got banged up and E-Man went out, and Varet went out, and, you know, we got to figure out what's happening with Dante Johnson because, you know, their depth is getting kind of, kind of slim right now. But he's playing really good football. He's aggressive. He's tackling well. And they're really happening. And then your boy, Tala Noah O'Fanga, Jimmy Ward, Tashon Gibson had an interception a day, a big play. You don't see a lot of weaknesses to this team.
Starting point is 00:17:17 And Kyle Shanahan, if it wasn't for Siriani and the Eagles going 12-on-1 right now and playing unbelievable, we'd be talking about Kyle Shanahan for coach of the year, being able to get to his third string quarterback and beat the goat, 35-7, like nobody are 38, 35-7. Like, nobody's talking about that. They've had every reason, Rich, to just start waving that white flag. You know, every excuse in the world. And they just keep rising and rising and rising. I mean, this is serious, serious story developing right in front of our eyes.
Starting point is 00:17:47 I mean, Mr. Irrelevant, Rich, this guy was drafted with the last pick in the draft and is now called upon to lead arguably the hottest team in the NFL down the stretch and Brock Purdy. And he's not just a passenger on the ship. He's slinging to rock. Like, he had three touchdowns in the first half. He ran one in. He threw for two.
Starting point is 00:18:08 I scored right before the half. He's playing with a lot of confidence. You hear it every week. His teammates are glowing about, you know, the command he's taking in a huddle, joking about, you know, how he's yelling and cursing out receivers and getting guys settled in the huddle, you know, to shut up. But, I mean, that's what you want from a quarterback. You want guys to take command, be confident, and they feel good about him, you know. But I don't want to be controversial, Mitchell. But almost the worst thing that could happen for the 49ers right now is Brock Purdy takes them to a Super Bowl and win it.
Starting point is 00:18:38 Mitchell, if Brock Purdy takes the San Francisco 49ers to the Super Bowl and wins it, I'm going to have to get off Twitter until at least September. Because you're going to have the biggest conflict for 49ers fans in the history. They're barely going to be able to enjoy the Super Bowl championship. The quest for six will be finally over. But all you will hear about is them arguing about Brock Purdy, Trey Lans, Jimmy Garapolo. And what do you do? Mitchell, it's not a problem I want, but it's the problem Calshanahan will have.
Starting point is 00:19:08 And he'll want it. Win a Super Bowl? Good promise to have, baby. It certainly is. I mean, obviously you played under him, Rich. I mean, Kyle Shanahan is a mastermind. The way he simplifies the offense to allow some guy, a rookie, Mr. Irrelevant, Barack Purdy to come in here and play solidly, you know,
Starting point is 00:19:30 and to dominate against Tom Brady. I mean, it's just unbelievable to see. But they seem to be cursed by this. old injury bug. Debo Samuel, it looked like a pretty, pretty gruesome injury, but we're hearing now that he did not suffer any serious knee injury. It's more of an ankle twist. At some point in time, like, how do you overcome all of this? Because Debo's theoretically going to be out at least a couple weeks, I would assume, you know. Mitchell, Mitchell, they did not stop scoring when Debo Samuel went out. I know that. I know that. The way they overcome it is with the weapons they had. They
Starting point is 00:20:07 had a plethora. They had an abundance. They had a smorgish board of riches. And they still do without Debo's Avenue. You still got to, now you're going to see guys like George Kittle come back into the fold and get more targets. You're going to see Brandon I, you, like you saw, get more targets and be involved. You're going to see Ray Ray McLeod.
Starting point is 00:20:29 Danny Gray got involved late in the game. They're going to try to get him going again, you know, the speedster. And you're going to see Calhattan again. overcome it. You know, when we played in 2019, we lost two tackles for almost 10 games in the season. You don't lose two tackles for 10 games and go to a Super Bowl. I don't, not in the National Football League. And we did. We lost, we had so many injuries that year. They always find a way to win. They always find a way to overcome. That's what, six, six games straight, six wins straight. Like, they're hot as fish grease right now, Mitchell. It's going to be tough to beat.
Starting point is 00:21:00 On the other side of the token is this NFC South division. Someone's got to win it, Rich. And unfortunately, we got to talk about it. But I want to start with the Bucks and what we're seeing with Tom Brady, which what could be the last season of his career. Obviously, I don't think there's much debate. He's the goat. But he looks human right now, Rich. Your thoughts on Tom. Well, he looks human because he doesn't have his starting right tackle.
Starting point is 00:21:27 He's all pro, pro bowl right tackle. His left tackle has been very, you know, consistent for the last two years is going through something, you know. It's a bit personal, he says. He's a friend. The offensive line, you lost, you lost Jensen early. You got so many injuries, so he doesn't have the time to throw the ball. His connection with the receiver just seems off. You know, training camp, a lot of them were injured.
Starting point is 00:21:51 He's not seeming like he has the same rapport with them. And defensively, they just didn't play good enough today. They didn't play good enough. You lost Vita Veyta earlier in the game, and he's a huge part of what they do. He's an enormous, literally and figuratively, a enormous part of what they do. When you lose a guy like that, it's just like the Philadelphia Eagles when he lost Jordan Davis. The entire defense changed, and they had to go get Limbaal Joseph. They had to go get in the Dominican suit and then to shore it up until Jordan Davis comes back.
Starting point is 00:22:17 And it was just unfortunate. They gave up plays everywhere. You know, it was just uncharacteristic plays everywhere around the field. And you hate to see it, you know, especially with Tom. But, you know, it's unfortunate. But they're just not playing good enough. And they're still going to be in the playoffs. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:22:34 Carolina Panthers are looking really good. but they're on a role, you may see them in the playoffs. Who knows? Well, that's just it. I mean, the Bucks are playing the Bengals next week. The road's just not getting any easier for this Tampa Bay Buccaneer team. I mean, I'm assuming they're going to be heavy underdogs in that game going into it in a must-win situation. Meanwhile, the Carolina Panthers appear to be the one team in this division that actually wants to win it.
Starting point is 00:22:57 And they go on the road and get a huge one in Seattle. And they're sticking to their identity, which is just run the football. and let's hope Sam Donald doesn't turn the ball over, but they look halfway decent. I mean, Tam Donald's playing pretty good football. I mean, he's not throwing for crazy astronomical numbers, but he's being smart with the football.
Starting point is 00:23:16 He's running it when he has to. He's being conservative with the football. And then you got J.C. Horn, interception. Could have had him two today playing unbelievable football. It looks like he's found his buddy. C.J. Henderson had an interception, it almost had him a second. So you also have young guys developing, you know,
Starting point is 00:23:30 young guys who had a lot of promise, had a lot of potential playing. up to that potential. And that's huge as well. And then you, of course, have Brian Burns. You got Shaq, you got Shaq, you got a bunch of talent on that defense and a bunch of pride. And those guys, they smell blood in the water. They got the Pittsburgh Steelers next. That's a winnable football game. Sure. Yeah, that's just it. And then to the NFC East, a division that certainly has caught us all off guard, at least you and I, I mean, if we want to rerun the tape from week one when we said it was going to be the dumpster fire of the league, I mean, maybe they should have canceled the
Starting point is 00:24:03 podcast on us right then. They're rich. I mean, that was one of our misses, Mitchell. That was a great A miss. That was a wide left. Very much so wide left. I mean, this Philadelphia Eagles Giants game was supposed to be the hallmark of this NFC East, you know, division of rivalry. And the Giants had an opportunity. And they just, they just frankly look like they don't belong, Rich.
Starting point is 00:24:29 This is just a downfall back to Earth. They're one four and one in their last six. But more importantly, the Eagles just continue their dominance. Talk to me about this Eagles team. Are they your favorites right now? Have they risen to number one? Well, they've been number one in the power rankings for like, I don't know, six weeks or so, five weeks, something like that.
Starting point is 00:24:50 So, yeah, they've been number one in the power rankings. I still feel like if we get an NFC championship where they see the San Francisco 49ers coming to Philadelphia, they will have their hands more than full. it'll be a whole different ballgame than what they've dealt with before. It'll be a whole different ballgame than what they've dealt with that offensively. And the secondary defensively, that'll be the best defense they've ever played offensively. That'll be the most dynamic offense, I think they've played. And so they are playing as well as anybody in National Football League.
Starting point is 00:25:19 Jalen Hertz looks like an MVP candidate steal. I mean, more and more each week he's looking like the MVP. The Giants, we knew the Giants weren't going to, you know, continue to be on fire like that. They're coming back to Earth. But, you know, Daniel Jones, they still have hope. You know, but Sequin isn't seeing the holes that he was seeing earlier. They got behind early in this ball game, so then they stopped running the football. But Mao Sanders continuing to have the best season he's ever had, 17 rushers for 144, two touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:25:49 He's the first 1,000-yard rusher for the Philadelphia Eagles in a very long time. I mean, since 2014. And then you got all day, always open. A.J. Brown with another touchdown, another one. And then Brandon Graham, their one loss of the season, he blames himself, he had to play, you know, against the commanders, where he thought he didn't know he was down. They gave him not necessary roughness and gave him a first down. But today, three sacks. Turn back the hand of time. And you continue to see why they're elite on both sides of the ball. They have so many big time players who are just veterans, played the game for a long time.
Starting point is 00:26:30 on the offensive line. You see Lane Johnson. You see Kelsey in the middle. You just see veteran players who just know how to win. You see that defensive line has so many veterans. I mean, you can go who's who on that defense line. And it's great. But, you know, I mean, I'm not really surprised by the Giants, you know, fall.
Starting point is 00:26:50 Well, Jalen Hertz is really carrying the team as well. I mean, he's the first QB in NFL history with 10 plus rush ds and back-to-back seasons, Rich. I mean, this guy has certainly elevated his game over last year. It's kind of starting to shape up with that MVP talk, more and more. Is he, does he have a legitimate shot this year? Is it still Mahomes and Allen's game? No, it's not Mahon's Allen's game. I mean, we just talked about Josh Allen, he threw for 147 a day.
Starting point is 00:27:18 I mean, team won, and he played solid. He made the plays that he need to on third down, some big, huge third down runs, starting 10, putting his body on the line for his team. But you just can't, you, you, you, can't overshadow what Jalen Hertz is doing. His team's record, how he's winning games. I mean, the first quarterback in the NFL history to have back-to-back, 10 rushing touchdown seasons.
Starting point is 00:27:39 And he's just playing. He's leading his team. It's not like he's a passenger on his train. He's the reason, a big part of why they're winning these games. And passing and running the ball, he's just making plays, making the plays that his team needs. You've got to appreciate that. He's putting his team in a position to win football games.
Starting point is 00:27:58 Patrick Mahones. three interceptions today, three touchdowns, but three interceptions. So his stats are going to look great. They're going to look great in Andy Reed's offense. And he has all the talent in the world. He's going to look great. But there have also been games. He's put his team in position to lose those ball games.
Starting point is 00:28:11 So you have to take that into account. You just can't look at the stats and say, well, who has the best stats? It looks like Patrick Mahones. Like, no, whose offense is playing the best? If you put the Philadelphia Eagles versus the Kansas City Chiefs, who would you expect to win that ball game? And I think a lot of people would have Philadelphia Eagles walking out of that building would win. I don't disagree with you.
Starting point is 00:28:31 Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games
Starting point is 00:28:45 and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days I'd put on 10 pounds, I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard Radio app. Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A win is a win.
Starting point is 00:29:01 A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me, Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined.
Starting point is 00:29:17 And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment. And the next, we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music.
Starting point is 00:29:38 The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast. It's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So, if you've ever supported me, or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be. Listen to The Cliverts show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. Do you remember when Diana Ross double-tapped Little Kim's boobs at the VMAs?
Starting point is 00:30:07 Or when Kanye said that George Bush didn't like black people. I know what you're thinking. What the hell does George Bush got to do with Little Kim? Well, you can find out on the Look Back at it podcast. I'm Sam Jett. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick it here, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. Including a recent episode with Mark Lamont.
Starting point is 00:30:26 Hill, waxing all about crack in the 80s. To be clear, 84 is big to me, not just because of crack. I'm down to talk about crack on day, but just so you know. I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack, so I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have AIDS on the table right now. Then you're finishing that sentence. Yes.
Starting point is 00:30:49 I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Really? Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history. to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The team that I thought, frankly, could take it in the NFC was the Dallas Cowboys. And today was a little eye-opening. I don't know if they just weren't on top of their game, you know, didn't take this game seriously.
Starting point is 00:31:17 But they got behind early. They did come back and win, which is huge. Bigger picture here, though, Rich, is the call-out. beginning of season, Tony Pollard, breakout player of the year, does it again. 12TD this season. Can somebody pay this guy, please? Mitchell, somebody's definitely going to pay him. It's just not going to be the Dallas Cowboys because they're paying Zeke $15 million.
Starting point is 00:31:38 Mitchell, so it's not going to be the Dallas Cowboys, but they're going to enjoy him while they got him. And they are doing that. But again, this is going back to the stat that got produced before the game. The Dallas Cowboys are worth 16 and 0 when Ezekiel Elliott has 15. plus rushes. And look. And of course, Ezekiel Elliott, 15 rushes, a touchdown, game winner at the end of the game. So 17 and 0 now.
Starting point is 00:32:03 But Dak Prescott, again, sloppy with football, two interceptions in this game. It just doesn't, you know, it doesn't feel solid, as you know, as you would hope for a team to be a leader. And people are like, why do you have fifth in the power rankings? Because of that. Because it doesn't feel like a team that you're going to. going to be afraid of it feels like a team that will run into the san francisco 49ers again and go home it feels like a team that could run into the philadelphia eagles again and go home like it
Starting point is 00:32:35 doesn't feel where you there aren't many teams that you're like hey i mean they make it out of the wildcar round you would expect that but if they just that you have to be very careful of who they play in divisional to feel good about it you don't feel good about them playing the niners you don't feel good about them playing the eagle so they they have but they they can't be high You know what I mean? They can't be higher because they'll be a Ravel-Card team. So they'll beat a fifth, sixth, seventh seed. So the best they can do is beat the fifth seed and play the NFC South.
Starting point is 00:33:04 So, hey, okay, you got to the playoffs. You play the NFC South team. Maybe you get through them. Maybe it's the Carolina Panthers and they give you a game, but you win. Or it's your Detroit Lions and they give you a game, but you win, okay? Now you're the fifth seed. Now you got to go to Philadelphia. You feel good about the Dallas Cowboys with this team.
Starting point is 00:33:23 they have with everything, with Dak playing the way he is, with Zeke playing away he is, with Zeeke playing away, winning that ballgame. You don't. You don't feel that good. You feel like, hey, they're going home. And so that's why I'm not feeling great about Dallas Cowboys, especially after game like this, but it just confirms what you know. I mean, the Houston Texas are still a national football league team,
Starting point is 00:33:42 but they don't have the most talent in the world. They're playing with a lot of guys who haven't played a lot of snaps in this league, and they gave them a game. I mean, they didn't want to win the game because they still want the number one pick. They don't want to give up the number one pick, because they want to come close to winning, but let's not get crazy, guys.
Starting point is 00:33:59 Rich, do you think the Dallas Cowboys in the event they sign Odell Beckham Jr.? Does that do it for you? Does that tip the needle a little bit more in their favor for you, or just more of the same? Well, first off, first of all, I don't think they have a chance to sign an Odell Beckham Jr. With the information that they leaked.
Starting point is 00:34:17 Like, they're leaking information saying he's not ready, his knee's not ready. It was like a slander campaign. on Odell, Beckham, Jr., when he got to doubt. He had two other visits that we didn't hear a thing about, and then he got to Dallas, and it was like, well, officials in Dallas are very concerned that his knee may not be ready this season. And, you know, then you hear something about the Rams saying they wouldn't assign him in August because they got to fill in his knees going to blow up.
Starting point is 00:34:43 Like, you had so much nonsense coming out. You're like, like, who did he make mad? Like, who did he piss off? Because none of this information that had come out at any. other time. It's like they're trying to lower the price for him. So I'd be really surprised if he goes to Dallas after what happened when he went on his visit. We got a game tonight, obviously, the Chargers and a big game this evening. Who the heck are they even playing? They're playing the Miami Dolphins, the Tua Herbert. Who should you have picked Miami, Tua or Herbert? That's
Starting point is 00:35:11 the question everybody's been asking. It looks like Tua was in the MVP conversation. That San Francisco game kind of brought him back to Earth a bit, Mitchell, but this will be a big went for the AFC. I want to start in the AFC and just talk about this playoff picture here. Obviously, we talked about it last week. The Buffalo Bills, if they can win this out and have home field advantage, that tilts heavily in their favor. Vaughn Miller is now out for the season. You know, how much is that going to truly affect the way they play ball going forward? Because he seemed to be such a difference maker for their defense. I don't know, Mitchell. I don't know. All I know is that they do not want to see the
Starting point is 00:35:52 the Jets again. They don't want to see the Jets again. Like, if they get to the playoffs in the first round and the Jets come to Buffalo, it'll be a dogfighted. It won't be a very uncomfortable game for Buffalo, even after their home stadium. I think they made some mistakes. Buffalo made some mistakes. I think that's going to be a ball game.
Starting point is 00:36:08 But they need to hold on to the one seat. And, you know, they look like they're in control. And if they do that, they'll, you know, I mean, there's a number of teams they could, they could have if they hold on to the one seat. But there's a small chance that they have to play the Jets. And, you know, I just don't, I'm not blown away by them like we were early in the season. Early in the season, they looked freaking like men amongst boys and they were dynamic. They were dominant.
Starting point is 00:36:34 You talk about Gabe Davis, Stefan Diggs. You talk about Josh Allen leading MVP candidate. Their defense playing unbelievable. Von Miller making all these plays. They're linebackers. You talk about all the other pass rushers, Rousseau. And then you get to this part of the season. and you're looking like they're very mortal.
Starting point is 00:36:53 They're very mortal. They're very beatable. You talk about the Thanksgiving game against the Detroit Lions. It took everything for them to win that game at the end, closing seconds. Big plays by Stefan Diggs and Josh Allen. But again, you felt like they've been mortal for the past maybe four or five games. And going into the playoffs, that's not what you want to see. You want to see hot.
Starting point is 00:37:12 You want to see like the Philadelphia Eagles. You want to see streaking. The San Francisco 49ers, streaking. You've got teams that are getting hot. The Cincinnati Bengals. Streaking. Like, teams getting hot at the right time, teams you do not want to see. Like, how comfortable are you as the Buffalo Bills playing the Cincinnati Bengals in the second round of the playoffs?
Starting point is 00:37:29 Are you as confident? No, you're not. You're not feeling good about that. Can your secondary stand up to that onslaught, offensive onslaught that they have? That's questionable. Their defense is also playing good football. Their offensive line playing better than they have throughout the entire year. I mean, it's crazy.
Starting point is 00:37:46 And that's the team I was waiting for you to bring up. I mean, this Cincinnati Bengals team is just replicating what they did last year, but they seem to be, you know, more so on everyone's radar because they proved that they were a real team last year. This team, you know, they're coming on hot. And to me, they look like the surest thing in the AFC. I don't know, you know, if that's going to prove true, but there's certainly not a team you're going to want to see in the second round of the playoffs. That is without a doubt.
Starting point is 00:38:13 On the NFC side, you know, the top dogs are pretty well set. I mean, we know the Vikings are going to win the NFC North. We believe the Eagles are probably going to win the East. The Niners look like they'll run away in the West. The South is just an absolute shit show. But beyond the Cowboys, these last two spots are completely up for grabs. Who do you see taking the final two spots in the NFC? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:38:39 I don't know. It's going to be interesting. That tie, that weird tie between the Giants and the commanders is definitely going to come into play. I think, you know, it just depends on which Seattle Seahawks team shows up this Thursday against 49ers, because if they show up like they have the last couple of weeks defensively, they may get run out of their own building. But, you know, I think the commanders, you know, with Heineke, are a dangerous team, you know, the very dangerous team team with nothing to lose.
Starting point is 00:39:06 A gunslinger at the quarterback position, defense has enough playmakers on that D line to put fear in anybody's heart. And they're running the ball really well. That's where it's scary. You know, you got scary Terry on the outside. You got enough playmakers. Like, they're playing their best football and they're fearless. They have nothing to lose. They feel like they're playing on House money.
Starting point is 00:39:24 A team like that is a team you get into playoffs. And I remember a couple of years ago, Heenke played against Tom Brady and they had their hands more than full in Washington. They found a way to win it on their way to a Super Bowl win. But I would not want to see them. I think they have a chance of getting that seventh seed. And, of course, the Giants, you know, I think it's going to be between those two. Well, Rich, we got a great game tonight.
Starting point is 00:39:46 This concludes. week 14, our Sunday. Hard to believe. It's already 14 weeks into the season. But Rich, I'll let you sign us off. Well, again, we appreciate you joining with us this week 14. We're heading to week 15. We got a crazy Hall of Fame guest next week.
Starting point is 00:40:03 So you're going to want to be tuned in for that one. I don't know many interviews that he's done since he retired, but it's going to be a classic. See you then. Get the sub button if you knew. Mitchell, it may have something to do. if you're Detroit Lions. He's coming on at the right time, Rich. I'll tell you that much.
Starting point is 00:40:24 Right, right, right, right. I mean, I would say they may get him out of retirement, but Mitchell, he ain't coming out. Not for them. See you next week. The volume. Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy, not quite.
Starting point is 00:41:00 Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, Yes, SNL's Mikey Day and headwriter Streeter Seidel help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes.
Starting point is 00:41:18 Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and friends on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast.
Starting point is 00:41:38 Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. On the Look Back at it podcast.
Starting point is 00:41:58 From 1979, that was a big moment for me. 84's big to me. I'm Sam J. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick you here, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it with our friends, fellow comedians, and favorite authors.
Starting point is 00:42:12 Like Mark Lamont Hill on the 80s. It was a wild year. It was a wild year. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an IHeart podcast. Guaranteed human.

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