The Herd with Colin Cowherd - The W.A.D.E. Concept - Jake Paul vs Tank Davis Is A CIRCUS Fight.. It Makes NO Sense
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Something else that's unfortunate
is the idea that Jake Paul might actually fight
Gervante Tang Davis.
This can't be real.
When it came up a couple of months ago,
I was like, you know what, I'm not even going to cover this because there's no way it's real.
There's no way they're really going to do that.
Because it makes no sense.
Why would you do that for him?
Outside of it, like, okay, you can look at it like an exhibition, which it will be,
and we'll take a look at some of the rule set for it.
But Jervante Davis is one of, if not the best, biggest names at 135 pounds.
And is an active in his prime fighter.
I don't want to hear this similar to Floyd and Logan thing because at that point, Floyd was retired.
Floyd had done all he needed to do in the sport.
Tank is still in his prime.
Still has multiple high-level opponents that he needs to fight.
And you can say, oh, you know, the Jake would be a one-off.
Side-side quest.
That's fine, but that just tells me that Tank doesn't care about being a high-level champion in the sport anymore.
It tells me that he's done competitively in the sport.
If he takes a fight with Jake Paul, it tells me he's done.
And that's unfortunate.
Yeah, Tank has been talking about retirement.
But if he goes this route, it's almost certain.
Like it's, it's, it's, pack it up.
It's over with because the fight makes no sense.
It doesn't even make sense for Jake.
For all the things Jake's talking about doing, it makes no sense for him.
Again, money, sure.
If it makes dollars, it makes sense, okay, fine.
But I want to see Jake in competitive matchups where I, I am interested in the outcome.
I'm not interested in this.
I'm not interested in the outcome of this.
I was interested in Floyd versus Logan because there was an idea that Floyd was a little slower,
a little older, and Logan would be able to knock him out.
If Jake knocks tank out,
So what? What does that do for him? Because he said he could beat Canella. He said he could beat Anthony Joshua.
I just, this one to me, like, I've gotten on board with a lot of Jake fights because they've made sense.
Right. To me, they've made sense. Even Julio Cesar Chavez, after he's already beaten the guy that beat Julio Cesar Chavez,
you beat Anderson Silva. A couple of years back now. That's, this one still kind of makes sense because you're getting a, maybe a better version of Chavez. And, you know, he's around the same weight now.
When you talk about the tank fight, I just, I don't understand it. I don't understand it. But let's, let's see.
take a look at what he said to Ariel Hawani and see how he explains this fight.
Was the next one tank? Yeah. Yeah, I mean, that was on the one yard line as well, but he has to
rematch, you know, Lamont Roach. He wants to get that back. And then we'll be back in discussions
with Mr. Jervante. But, man, this is the nature of boxing. You have massive fights on the
one yard line and things just fall through. Again, I just don't know why. Why would this be where you go?
The Mike Tyson thing I could kind of understand because it's Mike, and it's an exhibition, and he's retired.
Tank still being in the competitive nature of the sport, throws this one completely off for me.
And the fact that Jake is like 60 pounds bigger than he is, right?
Like Mike was obviously far older than Jake, and that was the big knock on that fight.
Mike should not have been in there with Jake.
Said that many times.
Jake has fought so hard against people saying he's bad for the sport, he's bad for the sport.
He doesn't actually want to fight or step up or do any of this stuff.
And I've kind of had his back when I'm like, no, he is doing what most boxers have done early in their career.
But this gives those people more ammo to be like, yeah, bro, look, this is what we're talking about.
When we say he's bad for the sport or when we say that he's doing stuff that doesn't make sense and he's making a mockery of things, this is what they're talking about.
And again, I wouldn't have any problem with it.
The tank was way past the point where he could fight competitively at his weight class and have fights with guys like Shakur Stevens.
Or even, again, rematching guys like Ryan Garcia.
Those type of fights that people want to see that make more sense.
This one doesn't make any sense.
I don't know though, because I never really thought Tank was that good.
It would just take the right fighter to pick him apart, to be honest.
Someone who had high activity and wasn't afraid of his power.
So I always saw so many holes in his game.
So to me, it wasn't that surprising that someone finally gave him some good work.
If you do fight, what weight would have been?
yet.
195.
Oh, wow.
So he would go all the way from 40 to 95?
Yeah, I mean, it would be an exhibition.
Okay, okay.
Yeah, I was going to say it.
No one actually believes that Tank Davis is putting on 50 pounds to come up and fight Jake.
But yeah, what the fuck are we doing?
Tank will at most weigh 155, maybe 160.
They're not going to sanction it because no one, no matter how many corrupt commissions
there are in the United States, no one is going to look at that fight and be like, yeah,
Pro-Bout, no.
It would be an exhibition.
She doesn't make any sense.
And then here's another part of this.
If Jake, like, maybe the PBA,
if Jake was earlier on in his career,
I wouldn't be as harsh with this matchup as I'm being.
Part of the reason Logan and Floyd Mayweather worked
was because Logan was a relative novice, right?
He had had a couple of fights.
Jake is, like, into his double-digit fight pro career now.
He's getting more experience,
whether you think he's good or not.
not, he's getting better.
And so the disadvantages that he would inherently have as a boxer that he could make up for
with size and weight and things like that.
I'm not saying he is the same level as Jervante Davis, but I'm saying they're becoming
less and less to the point where you look at this fight and you're like, what is the point?
Because Jake is getting better.
He knows how to protect himself.
He can box.
And he's bigger by a wide margin.
So it is almost a stacked deck against Jervante Davis.
If Jake knocks out Jervante Davis, like, I don't even know if I would be impressed.
I'd go, uh, okay.
All right?
It's gonna look awful that you like knocked out the guy that looks like someone's little brother compared to you.
And yes, we know it's Gervante, but I just...
Tank can have way more skill, but snags, until you've put gloves on and actually stepped in with people like at a massively different weight.
Unless like Tank just lands a bomb on his chin, which could happen.
It's going to be very hard for him to hurt Jake badly.
It's going to be very hard to do.
Will they let Jake fight Tank with 10 ounces?
I don't know.
I don't know what the rules.
like glove stuff, I don't know. So this is just again, it's like when you start to look deeper into
it, the less impressive it becomes if Jake actually goes in and beats him or like whatever.
This is going to give all the people that Jake tried to like change their minds with how he
approached the sport. This is going to do all, like it's going to do away with all that goodwill
and people are going to go, no, we were right in the beginning. You're bad for the sport.
But and so what does that mean? Is that three minute rounds?
Yeah, 10, 3 minute rounds.
rounds. And when you say exhibition, like, what are the restrictions on that? No restrictions,
just the fact that, like, we couldn't actually get it professionally sanctioned. Okay. Is that still
of interest to you? Like, if he wins the rematch and you beat Julio, is that of great interest
to you later this year? For sure. For sure. Like I said, big events. And, you know, when we had
announcement videos filmed for Canelo and for Gervante, like, both filmed and fully edited. And
my team went into the streets to ask people what they thought of me versus
Jervante.
Every single person was like Jervante would kill Jake.
He's going to die, all of this stuff.
And so just proving people wrong and changing the narrative and showing people that I'm
a better boxer than all these so-called pound for pounds is just fun for me.
Jake has lost it a little bit here because that's not what beating Jervante Davis does.
That doesn't make Jake a better boxer.
And again, I don't even know how this would even look,
but that's not, he knows that that's not what it does.
He says changing the narrative,
but that's not a narrative anyone's saying
unless they don't watch the sport.
That doesn't change the narrative.
That just creates one.
And as much as, you know, there's been a narrative about Jake,
which is, you know, oh, he only fights old men,
or he doesn't fight fighters his age,
or he doesn't fight in his wakel.
Like, there's been those narratives,
but Jake, make no mistake about it.
I think that those have been unfair at times
When people are talking about, you know, how young he is as a boxer versus what he should be doing.
But Jake has also created a lot of narratives for himself.
Like the way he talked about the Tyron Woodley fight, the way he talked about Anderson Silva, the way he talked about Nate Diaz.
And again, he's right and what he was saying, I beat the best striker ever.
Okay, he's right, but there's context missing.
I beat the best baddest man on the planet.
Right, but there's context missing.
You know, I beat a former UFC world, well, the right champion.
Yeah, but there's context missing.
I told you guys four years ago that Jake was the king of creating and spin.
narratives when it came to the verbiage he used around the fight.
You said he's not chasing boxing glory and I have to push back because you're right
that he'll chase massive fights and this would be a massive fight numbers wise and of course
we're going to watch it.
But he has stated he wants to chase boxing glory.
He has stated he wants to become a world champion.
He has stated those things.
So you get to a point where yes, you can take sidetracks and this is why I'm not criticizing
the Canello one as much, right?
Because Canello is at least closer to his weight and closer to the end of his career.
In my opinion, maybe not.
But the Dervante one is such a wide gap.
And it's just, it's such a polarizing middle of the road thing for Jervante.
It's more so Dravante accepting this.
Because of course, Jake's going to call out the biggest names in the sport.
And then if he wins, like I said, we talked about this with the Julio Cesar Chavez Jr.
I fully expect Jake to win that fight.
And he potentially is going to knock Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. out.
And when he does, he'll get on the microphone and he will say,
I did what Canello could not do.
And it will be devoid of context, but he will have actually done that.
He will have knocked out a guy that Canello couldn't knock out.
And so if he does this to Tramante Davis, he will get on the mic and say,
I be one of the best boxers, so I'm one of the best boxers.
At the same time, he'll be flat out incorrect in the context of it.
In the same breath is I'll criticize him for this one because I just don't,
it doesn't compute to me.
And I think it is a bad thing for the sport to just do exhibitions in the middle of
fighters' primes.
I don't think it's a good idea.
Especially if Tank were to not look very good
because then what, like, are you interested in his next fight?
If Jake makes him look relatively mediocre, you know,
if nothing really happens
and both guys come out of there with the old exhibition draw
because there's no decisions.
Do we care about him versus Shakur then?
You know, I don't know.
Does the, we may, but does the buying audience care?
I don't know.
Then Jake will go and challenge Zordo Ramirez
and it's like, what the fuck?
Okay, I guess.
Like, that's a way too big a step up to me, but who knows?
So then ultimately, how did you end up with Julio
and were there other names that were being considered before you did end up with him?
Yeah, I mean, I think Julio, that conversation has always been there,
and fans have always wanted it.
And he's a former world champion, super experienced.
It's a good chip on my belt to test myself in the ring with a very, very tough opponent.
And he has, you know, the name behind him, the Mexican fan base.
Puerto Rico versus Mexico
and he was actually somebody that
Jake's not Puerto Rico
I know I know
that he knows this but he is like
become the ipso facto like
El Gallo de Tarano I'm Puerto Rico
versus Mexico
Jake's from Ohio
but also this is why I like
the Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. fight and maybe
there's not many fighters that can
check this box for Jake
but everything he said is right
there's a big name there's legacy
there. His father is one of the greatest, if not the greatest Mexican boxer ever. There is a bit of a
challenge there if Julio Cesar Chavez is truly off the, you know, that cocaine and all the hard drugs and
everything else and he's gotten himself clean. This would be a tough, a tough night out. And if he was,
you know, he's 39, so he's a little bit over the, over the hill. But these are like good little
boxes to check for where Jake's at. I don't, that's why I don't mind this fight at all. I like it.
But I think the point I'm making with this video is to just ask the question, what are we doing?
This is not a good thing to me.
Moving forward for Tank Davis.
I mean, it's great for Jake if he wins.
It's more exposure.
Even if he's just in the fight, it's more exposure.
It doesn't really matter whether he wins or loses because, you know, people, casual
audience already think Tank is just going to wash him.
But like as a sport, for Jake to now be in the line of pro boxing, MVP, you know, the promotion itself,
the whole thing, integrity of the sport, what are we doing?
Is this good for the sport?
I don't know.
I don't think so.
I don't like it.
I don't think this is a good idea.
Because if this becomes the mainstay, I said this seven years ago,
if exhibitions or just fighters that are championship level taking massive paydays to do exhibition fights
or jumping up in ridiculous amounts of weight fights to have some sort of a circus fight becomes
the norm because there's a lot of money in it, then what happens to integrity of the sport?
What happens to building champions?
What's the point of boxing at that point?
Because everybody says boxing is a business, not a sport.
If things like this continue to happen, it will be for sure.
Like, that'll actually be the case.
I don't know.
This one's a head scratcher for me.
You guys let me know in the comments.
Is this a good idea?
Because to me, Jake Paul versus Javante Davis makes absolutely no sense.
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