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Episode Date: August 10, 2025In this weeks WEEK IN REVIEW, Wade gives his thoughts on why Jake Paul Vs Anthony Joshua is most likely happening, how the Eubank Benn rematch will go, and how Tony Ferguson might have already fallen ...into Salt Papis trap... 0:00 JAKE PAUL VS AJ?! 19:13 CHRIS EUBANK VS CONOR BENN 2 IS ON!! 32:58 TONY FERGUSON VS SALT PAPI FACE 2 FACE #herdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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All right, so we are back on the way concept presented by The Ring.
And today, they're actually going to do this, aren't they?
They really are going to make Jake Paul versus Anthony Joshua.
And it's not just me saying this as if I want this to happen, because I'm truly, like, concerned.
Jake Paul is going to get his actual head knocked off his shoulders.
And now many people in this comment section will be like,
why is that a concern, Wade?
That's what we want.
Well, I think it's probably a bad precedent,
but boxing has already set a ton of bad precedence.
So it may not just be an idea.
It may be reality,
and it may be sooner than you think.
What do I mean?
The breakdown, let's go.
All right, so,
Nikisa Baderian, Jake Paul's manager and the co-founder of
MVP was on Sky Sports in the UK today. Talk about a myriad of things. But the main thing I wanted to
cover today is obviously the Jake Paul Anthony Joshua rumors and now potentially talks going on for
an actual fight. Like there's a difference between Jake Paul saying I want to fight Anthony Joshua
and the rest of us kind of being like, uh, yeah, all right, bud. Although I will say, I know Jake's
delusion. So I know that when he says it, he actually will fight it. I think this is the first time
and Jake's boxing career that his delusion will lead him to a place that's going to get him seriously injured.
Honestly, this is what I think.
I don't understand why they want to take this fight.
Hopefully, Nekisa can try to convince me as to any reason.
Outside of that sweet, sweet denaro, aka money, aka dollar dollar bills, y'all.
To me, there is no feasible answer for this, and I think it's really going to get Jake hurt.
And again, a lot of people will celebrate that, but I just don't understand it.
So let's take a look at what Nekisa had to say.
I think the fight can absolutely happen.
I'm looking at it as Jake versus Joshua, which is quite biblical and it's quite impactful in many ways.
All right, so first off, Nikisa says he looks at this as Jake versus Joshua,
and it has biblical undertones.
I don't know the biblical undertones of Jake versus Joshua.
I know Jacob is essentially Israel, I'm pretty sure, in the Bible,
or it has something to do with, like, the seed of Abraham.
I'm not going to act like I'm a biblical historian, but I'm not going to act.
pretty sure I remember from Sunday school growing up that Jacob is the name given to, I guess,
what would become Israel. And then Joshua is like an assistant of Moses who leads the Israelites
at a certain point through Canaan. I think I could be wrong. Bible knowers let me know down
below, but I'm not sure if there was ever a Jacob versus Joshua thing in the Bible. I know they
both had significance, but I'm not sure the connection there. But then again, this could just be
Nekisa is saying Jake is A-side versus Anthony Joshua,
and I don't really know what to make of that.
It would be a massive fight.
Like if we're talking about who's a bigger star in boxing,
if they do it in the UK, it's going to be Anthony Joshua.
He is a draw there.
Like almost no boxer is here in America.
I think he's sold out 90,000 a couple times out there.
I don't know.
But anyway, we keep going.
Anthony Joshua, I think he is 28 and 4, if I'm not mistaken.
And two of his losses are against Alexander Usik.
Usik weighed in at 220 pounds for those fights.
Jake is not Usik.
A lot more years of experience needed to get to that level.
But Jake walks around between 208 and 210,
and he fought Mike Tyson at 228 pounds.
So I think size-wise, we can get comfortable with it.
And I think experience-wise, Jake is learning very fast and growing,
and Joshua is a little long in the tooth.
So it...
You know, listen, I'm all for...
telling it for your guy, but the reach is here to make any comparison between Jake Paul and
opponents that Anthony Joshua has had and also opponents Jake has had. This is like Nikisa has grown
Go Go Gadget arms and he is stretching to make these reaches. And again, it's what he's supposed to do.
I get it, right? If his client says, listen, I want to fight Anthony Joshua. And Nekisa says,
that's probably not a good idea. And his client says, no, I want to fight Anthony Joshua. You're not
hearing me make it happen, then there's really nothing that Kisa can do other than this.
Do I think that he believes Jake can win? I don't know. I don't think any sane person believes
Jake can win this fight. If you have any frontal cortex brain matter, you probably think Jake
has less than 1% chance of winning this fight. But at the same time, the Kisa's doing what he's
supposed to do. Now, as far as what he's saying, um, Jake weighed in at 228 to fight Mike Tyson,
Ussick weighed around 220s to fight Anthony Joshua. He said Jake is clearly not Ussick, but he's
getting experience and Joshua was a little long in the tooth. Number one, Alexander Usuk,
is one of the greatest boxers we've ever seen. Cruiserweight, heavyweight, 2.20 is a little bit more
natural for him at his age to stay at heavyweight, which is why he's there, but also his ability
to box allows him as an undersized heavyweight in this era. Alexander Usik in the 70s and the 80s is
not an undersized heavyweight. George Foreman in the 70s is 220-something pounds. And I'm saying?
Muhammad Ali was 216. So in those days, Usik's not undersized, but in the era,
of the bigger heavyweight, the 250-pound Anthony Joshua, the 240-pound Daniel Dubois,
the 290-pound, almost 300-pound Tyson Fury. This era of heavyweight is bigger. And Usik,
even with those bigger guys, is able to still hurt them because of his boxing ability,
his speed, elusiveness, his footwork, all the things that Jake just doesn't have,
at least not anywhere close to the level of being competitive.
with one of the more athletic heavyweights,
while no, he doesn't have the greatest feet,
but he has well enough feet to hang with Jake Paul.
In a boxing ring, we're talking about Anthony Joshua here.
We're not talking about random heavyweight Jake has sparred in camp
to get ready for 58-year-old Mike Tyson.
And I just have to say this stuff, because it's, you know,
if the comparisons are going to be made,
I have to point at the holes in the argument
because I don't even make them, they're just there.
Which is that, yeah, okay, Jake was 228 pounds for the Mike Tyson fight,
but it was a two-minute per round fight, and they went,
Eight rounds. I know that that wasn't because of Jake, but at the same time, he's not, he shouldn't be at 228 pounds. It's not great for his body. Not that he can't hold the weight, but if he's gonna try to go long rounds against a power punching way younger, fast explosive heavyweight, you want to call Anthony Joshua long in the tooth.
Jake was trying to hurt Mike Tyson, at least early on in that fight, and he couldn't do it.
And that's 58-year-old Mike.
And I'm not saying that at certain point Jake didn't let off the gas or whatever,
but I watched him in those first couple of rounds, and he was throwing haymakers.
He was throwing kill shots at Mike Tyson, and he couldn't hurt him.
I'm not saying Jake can't knock people out or whatever.
He doesn't have power.
I think Jake does have some power, but this is heavyweight we're talking about.
And it's just, you know, we just watched him fight against Julio Cesar Chavez Jr.
And Chavez was protecting himself, clearly did not want to fight.
He clearly apparently was using it as a way to just avoid ice agents for a couple more days
instead of turning himself in.
But the point I'm making is Jake can intimidate a guy like Chavez Jr.
With his size, with his speed, with his power, and make him go, hey, you know what?
Maybe I don't want to fight this kid and take any risk.
Anthony Joshua is used to fighting the bigger level of heavyweights and has fought the most skilled heavyweight there is.
And in the second fight, looked a little better than some other guys have against Ussick.
And Nekisa has to say what he has to say to make this plausible.
to even talk about doing, let alone starting to actually build toward the fight,
but it's just, I don't see it.
Could be a very interesting matchup, and we're actively discussing it with Matrum.
In terms of those active discussions, how far of things progressed?
Is it something that you can see happening next for Jake and for AJ?
I think we're looking at it happening in Q1 of 2026 is kind of the current discussion.
I think it's public that AJ was taking a little time away,
I think he had a little surgery.
So once he's ready and once he's,
Jake is ready, we're going to squarely focus on that.
This is what I'm talking about, dude.
This has gone past the point of, well, you know, we may want it to happen.
We even had Turkey-A-Lishake saying, listen, I'll make the fight.
I'll put the fight on because Turkey is so invested in it.
He's so sure that Anthony Josh was going to beat Jake.
He called it a 99% to 1% fight because he likes to put on 50-50 fights, right?
Fights that people want to see fights that make the most sense and are the most competitive.
He's not even trying to hide the fact that he thinks this is,
a 99 to 1 and he wants it to happen so he's done with the Jake Paul problem.
That's what he said.
I respect the honesty.
And if you're looking for AJ to have a buildup fight,
which is what everybody's saying,
a fight to kind of get him back on the horse before potentially finally,
hopefully going into the Tyson Fury fight,
would you rather him fight Tony Yoka or would you rather him fight an almost guaranteed
win in Jake Paul?
I mean, again, it's just, it boggles my mind that this can even happen.
How much of a worry is that we thought he did to in Gannon?
So power is obviously the last thing to go.
So obviously AJ has a ton of power and he's still fairly young.
Mike Tyson, much more vicious of a knockout artist than Anthony Joshua,
much older than AJ, but that was a risk that Jake was willing to take.
No, no.
We just can't, we can't do these kind of comparisons.
You just can't.
Mike was 58 years old.
And yes, what Nikisa is saying is true.
when you add context, which is in his prime,
or even fairly in the back end of his prime and out of his prime,
like in the part of his life where he was completely gone from boxing
and gone to prison, come back, strung out, out of shape.
Mike even then was probably a naturally harder, vicious knockout puncher
than AJ has continued to be.
But that's not even what Mike is now.
We're talking 25 years after.
after that. 25 years after the worst parts of Mike Tyson as a professional, AJ's not even as
washed as Mike was at the end of his career. Like, Mike was washed water. At the end of his actual
pro boxing run. It didn't mean he wasn't powerful, but the comparison being made is like Mike
Tyson was anywhere near the threat that we're talking about here. It wasn't even close. Like,
yeah, Mike had a shot of hurting Jake and it was looked at as somewhat competitive because
of Mike's age. We don't look at this fight as competitive because AJ is a bad. A.J. is a
bad mother f*** when his mind is in a boxing match. Now, if he shows up like he showed up against
Daniel Dubois or shows up like he showed up against Andy Ruiz the second fight, even though he won
the fight, it was the most hesitant just get through it type of fight. If he shows up like that
or, you know, I don't know, like the Ussick one fight, then yeah, we may have a real issue here.
Like if AJ's not focused and he's just doing it whatever and off in La La Land, then yeah,
they may have a problem because AJ when he's not locked in,
just foregoes all boxing and just wings it and bad shit happens to him.
But if he shows up with any ounce of respect, any ounce of dignity, any ounce of just,
I'm going to prove that I'm a professional and you can't just walk into this sport
and call out a high-level heavyweight as someone that's not even a true heavyweight
and think you're going to win, then he'll absolutely flatline Jake.
So when Akisa is saying stuff like, yeah, you know, Jake knew going in there with Mike was a risk.
You're talking like a 95 or 96% increase in risk now
versus what you were talking about against Mike Tyson.
It's not even close.
Francis Nangano, amazing MMA fighter, very powerful man,
not an experienced boxer, right?
A lot less experienced than Jake Paul.
So if people were comfortable with Francis getting in there with AJ,
Jake, who is now 13 fights in,
plus one amateur fight, a lot less than AJ,
but much more than Francis Nangano,
I think we're very comfortable with it.
Ultimately, it's not a fight that I want Jake to do.
It's a fight that Jake wants to do.
And that's a discussion we've had at length,
and he feels very confident about where he is in his career
and his chances of upsetting Anthony Joshua.
I mean, listen, that in part is a fair point.
Like, you know, Nekisa has to understand the words coming out of his mouth.
They're like, listen, I'm trying to do my best to convince you guys of why Jake thinks
he can win this fight, but I'm going to be the first to tell you I didn't want this fight for.
I don't know how to even read that,
I agree with that part to be like, hey, listen, this is not my choice.
In fact, I did not want him fighting Anthony Joshua, but we talked and talked, and I tried to,
he's not saying it, but he's like, I tried to tell him, this is probably not the best idea,
tried to talk to him, maybe tried to talk him out of it, and Jake's just not budging.
But, again, the comparisons are what I have to go back to here, you're talking about Francis and Ganu,
who, yes, should not have been in a ring with Anthony Joshua as quick as he was.
Shouldn't have been in a ring as quick as he was with Tyson Fury either.
But the styles make matchups, and like Nikisa said, Francis is a ridiculously strong puncher, a gifted athlete, a freak of nature.
Now, yeah, Jake has better skills, and he has more experienced, and he has 13 fights, and all of that's great.
But the same things that plagued Francis potentially and almost certainly can plague Jake Paul.
His inexperience at heavyweight, not just in boxing, but at heavyweight, and having to adjust with a man like AJ who is powerful and is a bit fast.
than the other heavyweights outside of Usset, cracking you with a shot that's set up that he actually uses his jab to create.
If AJ again shows up in any kind of proper form and you get that AJ the night he fought Francis, it's going to be a train wreck.
Talk about disrupting the sport and getting those eyeballs on it.
Jake versus AJ or Jake versus Joshua, as you call it at Wembley perhaps sounds pretty good to us.
Would that be the dream venue for a fight like that?
I think we're looking at multiple options.
Wembley's definitely a possibility.
Jake has said he'd like to do it there.
He likes the idea of going in and hearing 90,000 people booing him.
He kind of feeds off of that.
But we're looking at the U.S.
Obviously, Saudi Arabia is also an option.
The Middle East is an option as a whole.
But we want to do it in the most impactful way possible.
Now listen, again, this as a spectacle is going to draw ridiculous amounts of viewership.
And for the spectacle of it, because that's what we're agreeing to this being as we go into it.
Everybody knows. It'll be an event. It'll be a spectacle. It'll be must watch for reasons that
probably aren't usually the must watch reasons of boxing, just like Mike Tyson and Jake was.
It was a weird kind of circus clash, and that's okay. Again, I'm watching this shit. I'm intrigued by it.
I want to see it. And with Turkey-Elas shake, if he's going to be involved, and I know he said he wants to be,
I think the right idea is to do this in the UK. Do it in Andy Joshua's backyard. Do it at Wembley.
Run 90,000, 80,000, whatever it's going to be. That's the story.
And it really sucks to me that it's not going to be Jake and KSI at Wembley because that's really the story.
That's the one that honestly should have happened for those that are not familiar with the crossover or influencer side.
That's the fight that's been on the books and off the books and should have happened and could have happened and didn't happen.
But regardless, U.S. versus U.K. always sells.
And especially when someone has hated as Jake by the U.K. audience comes into their backyard and they have a guy that they love and Anthony Joshua.
it's a recipe made in boxing spectacle heaven, I guess.
All right, so that's Nikisa talking about the fight.
Now, if that wasn't enough to convince you that this thing is probably going to happen,
more likely than not, I'm saying, I mean, if I'm putting percentages on it,
unless AJ's team, and I saw Ben Davidson, I don't know if he's still coaching AJ,
but I know he was AJ's coach talking about he didn't want to see AJ do that.
He would rather AJ take more credible fights.
And that's also a fair point in one that a lot of people are also going to hang
on to and say, yeah, we would rather see him fight Tony Yoka or somebody else a heavyweight,
Dyson Fury, I don't know, whoever else. Outside of something like that happening, I'm putting this
at like a 70-30 thing. And again, these are just my percentages, the way this conversation's going,
the way, if you read in between the lines of what AJ's saying, by the way, what Eddie Hearn is saying
about, you know, yeah, we'll sign it. Yeah, let's do it right now. Yeah, they want it. Jake wants it.
I don't think Nekisa actually, I don't know if that's something he wants, but it's going to do right by his
client or at least do what his client's asking him to do. And then you have this, which again,
just is more ammo, more fuel to the fire for me. This was, I think on Instagram,
I'm assuming this was from the Sky Sports interview, some random on Instagram commented underneath
it and said, imagine losing to Tommy Fury, then thinking you have a chance to upset Joshua,
which is a fair point. I mean, Jake fought Tommy Fury at what, 185 pounds and lost. That was a long time
ago, Jake's had a lot of experience since then,
XYZ, but you can
see why the idea
of him beating Joshua is fucking
insane to most people with a
brain, but Nekisa don't like randoms
coming at his boy like that, so he comments
underneath it, imagine being 28
buying a home for 40 million
freaking massive flex, pocket watch to the
I don't even know if Jake announced it was a $40 million
home. Putting on the biggest event in women's
boxing history, fighting in the most viewed
boxing event since Ali
and then fighting a
AJ soon after. Oh, actually, don't imagine it. Jake Paul did it. So again, I don't know how many of you
guys talk like this when you're just wondering about a fight, when you're just negotiating about a fight,
when you're just in talks about a fight, saying things like, imagine you were fighting in the biggest,
most viewed boxing event since Ali, then fought AJ soon after. Oh, wait, don't imagine it. Jake
Paul did it. This is almost a guarantee. Like, maybe Nikis is getting ahead of himself a little bit
and just adding things in to hit back at a troll.
But that seems like almost a freaking done deal.
That seems like this is what's going to be happening.
So again, I'm not trying to over-exaggerate.
I'm not trying to read too much in this stuff.
I'm literally just reading the words that are in front of me
and listening to what's being said.
I can't believe it, but they're actually going to do this shit.
This is insane.
They're going to do this fight.
I think it's a bad idea for Jake.
I do.
And I'm not even trying to like shit on the fight.
Because again, I'm going to watch.
But I just think it's, there's a no one.
situation outside of money, and sure it'll be a big event. But if Jake's goals are to be a world
champion, which, okay, we'll see. I'm still bearish on that. But if that's the goal, outside of the
putting on the big events thing, how do you get to that if you don't get past AJ? And he really does a
number on you. I have no idea. And again, is the money worth that kind of risk to not only this
fight, but the future? I don't think so. But comment section, you tell me if I'm crazy.
His theme's like it's starting to tilt one way.
What was kind of a joke, or at least seem like that,
only a few months ago, is now starting to become reality.
Again, I said it just like Eddie Hearn did.
Someone could get very badly hurt, and I don't think it'll be AJ.
But it looks like this fight's going to happen.
So you guys let me know what you think.
What's the percentage you put on this fight actually happening?
And if it does, what happens in it?
I don't have those.
I mean, I kind of do.
I think everybody kind of does.
Jake's probably going to get hurt really badly.
But we don't know.
Not for sure.
until they finalize this thing or until things actually get set in place.
So is Jake going to fight Anthony Joshua?
I think so.
But I don't have those answers.
I guess we'll find it.
Folks, we are back on the way concept presented by the Ring magazine with breaking news today.
Well, it's about a day old now, but still breaking news.
Chris Eubanks Jr. and Connor Ben are set to rematch.
And it just got it now, so we have to talk about it.
The breakdown, let's go.
All right.
So here it is from the...
The Ring Magazine breaking.
Ring Magazine has learned.
Sella completed the deal for the highly anticipated Chris Eubang Jr.
versus Connor Ben rematch on November 15th in Tottenham Stadium.
The event will be presented as the ring, unfinished business.
Not going to lie, they kind of did finish the business first time around.
I mean, Chris Eugang Jr. won, but it was a great fight.
It was probably fight of the year or one of the fights of the year.
What we've seen this year in 2025, but that being said,
It was interesting and there was always supposed to be a rematch clause, so we're running it back.
Also, the event will be promoted by Sella and sponsored by Riyadh season and the Ring magazine.
Here is the article.
First it was off, then on, then off again.
Now the rematch between Chris E.Bank Jr. and Connor Ben is officially back on.
The Ring has learned the deal to see them run it back from their April 26th showdown was completed through Sella on Tuesday.
They will have approximately three months
to prepare for their sequel to take place on November 15th
in Tottenham Stadium in the United Kingdom.
All right, so this is interesting
because we didn't know we were going to get this.
It looked like...
Because they were originally supposed to have the rematch in September,
and that was going to be set in stone.
That was how it was going to go.
And then Chris Eubank Jr.'s team, I guess, wasn't on board,
or he wasn't on board,
and they couldn't get the deal done.
So it looked like we were moving on.
You know, Connor Ben, staying at 147,
potentially looking to fight.
Big fights at 147, Ryan Garcia out there.
there, who knows. Uh, and then for Chris Eubang Jr., we didn't really know. Is he going to fight again?
Is he going to hang him up? Is he going to look to, to move back to 168 and try to compete at a
higher level there? And we just didn't get any answers. You know, we just, we really did not know.
So having this thing back on is great. Like, I wouldn't have minded if they moved on from it,
but this is great. You know, rematch. A highly contested fight the first time around. Tons of drama
leading into the fight. And, you know, we do have to talk about a lot of that. It's not said here.
In fact, on the website, at the end of the article,
it says that it is unclear
if the rematch will once again take place at 160 pounds,
but it's believed that the way in terms will remain the same.
This is going to be obviously something very controversial for people
because the first fight was already controversial.
A lot of people thinking Chris Eubank Jr.
shouldn't still be fighting at 160 pounds
because it looks like it's a pretty tough weight cut for him.
And then because this is not a natural 160-pounder
and Connor Ben, then you also have the rehydration clause.
From the first fight, that was a massive controversy,
so much so that Chris Ebang Jr. actually missed weight.
It was a half of a pound or a half of a half of a pound.
I'm not exactly sure the number, but he missed,
and it cost him $500,000.
That was insane the first time around.
And again, the rehydration clause makes it very difficult
on, I guess he'll be 35, maybe 36-year-old Chris Eubank,
who clearly is not a natural 160 anymore.
But then again, you have Connor Ben coming up from 147.
He's not supposed to be fighting at 160.
It's just a weird fight.
It is.
As far as trying to make it, it's an odd one.
But I can't lie to you if I want to see it, right?
I do want to see the rematch.
I thought both men looked great in the first fight.
I thought Chris Eubank Jr. pulled out a gutsy performance
and was able to withstand some nasty, I mean, earth-shattering punches from Connor Ben.
People talking about his power not carrying up to 160.
It may not against other people, but against Chris Eubank Jr.
He was lighting him up with some of those shots.
And Eubank not only weathered the storm, but hit him back with even more big shots.
And then outclassed him on the way to a victory.
So it is up to Connor Ben to change the tide here in the rematch.
And I'm going to go ahead and say this, because it's at 160,
because I've now seen the first fight and the skill gap was not as big as I thought it would potentially be
if Connor Ben was going to be outmatched.
He was outclassed, outbursed, outbursed.
in that fight, but the skill gap wasn't bigger than the amount that Connor Ben can make up for,
for, you know, maybe a better approach, maybe a more technical approach, a more set-up approach.
Because throughout the fight, all we watched was Connor Ben throw hammers. There was not a lot of
set-up punching from Connor Ben. There was a lot of hooks, right hands, straight punches,
jab right hand, but there wasn't a lot of faint jab right hand, wasn't a lot of double jab right
hand, wasn't a lot of jab work really in total from Conner-Bin the first time.
around. And I'm going to be honest, I don't know if we would be able to see much different from
Chris Eubank Jr. in the rematch. I don't know that there's much that he can show us in a rematch that we
didn't already see from him. And I'm not, he won the fight. He could probably do what he did in the
first fight and still win, but I just think that the ceiling is kind of what we saw from Chris Eubank Jr.
I don't know that he has much more to push past what we saw. I don't know if he didn't have his
greatest night of fighting. He probably could have boxed more and traded less if we want to say, you know,
more safe route for Chris Eubank Jr.
And one that, again, him being the more technically skilled, it looked like in the first
fight, and that's how he won.
Maybe in a rematch he's more safe and stays behind his jab and doesn't look to engage as
much and plays more defense and, you know, drags out a decision that way.
Definitely could be the case or just outboxes Connor Ben and doesn't take as many risks
because he took some unnecessary risks.
I mean, I don't know if you even want to call him unnecessary because those things needed
to happen.
For Conner Ben to get stopped in his tracks a little bit,
and for Chris Eman Jr. to gain some respect
and be able to have some offense,
he needed to stop the wild swings.
He needed to stop the big-time power of Conner Ben
and sit in the pocket with him.
You know, not all the fight,
but multiple times to reestablish that it was his fight
to slow Conor Ben down to back him off
and take center of the ring again.
He had to do a little bit of that.
So this time around, will we see much different from Eubank?
I just don't know that there's much different.
he can bring. Yeah, he can box you on the front foot, box you on the back foot, sit down in the
pocket. But I think that's what he kind of already did the first time around. Again, maybe more
defensive we'll see. But I'm going to be honest with you guys, when I think about this fight,
way too early, because again, we're about three months away. The same factors that worried you in the
first fight for Chris Eubank Jr., even though he won, are going to be the same ones that worry
you again in this rematch. I think out of the two of them, yeah, I mean, Connor Ben going to
160's not his natural weight class. He shouldn't be there either. But out of the two of them, the
person that's going to be more compromised at that weight is probably Chris Hubeing Jr.
Not even probably is Chris Hubeing Jr.
Because of, again, the amount of weight he's cutting and the rehydration clause.
It's hard to put weight on for sure.
But depriving yourself of water and cutting weight and then depriving yourself for water longer,
do you hydrating yourself?
You know, it's just not, I mean, we saw he got, he's probably getting in trouble with the
British Boxing Board of Control for the sauna suit and him showing how.
how the weight cut affected it.
It's one of the worst practices in combat sports.
I've said it for so long now, but it's just, it is what it is.
Weight cutting is definitely a deterrent more so, I think,
especially in this matchup, because I don't see Chris Ewebake having the power to do much
in terms of shaking Connor Ben.
At least we didn't see that in the first fight.
I think he's the one that's going up against the eight ball again more than Connor
Ben.
I think he's sacrificing more.
But with that being said, this is why I think, and again, way too early prediction,
I'm gonna go Connor Ben again.
I picked him in the first fight,
and again, he was moments away from having some big time success,
and he hurt Chris Eubank Jr. with a couple of punches there,
but for the most part,
Eubank Jr. ran away with it, and he outboxed him.
And Connor Ben, I thought, didn't have a solid approach
to landing his big time power,
because it was all power shots.
It was all haymakers for the entirety of the fight.
There was no speed and defense transition.
There was no let me take some speed off of this one
and use it as a range,
and then, b'bohm, and speed it back up and add some power to it.
It was just hammers.
And I think he knows that in a rematch, if he can do a little bit different,
if he can make some adjustments to his game,
and keep that same tenacity and keep that same tenacity and keep that same
ferociousness forward and trying to take center of the ring
and take the fight to Chris Eugink Jr.,
I think he's got a great chance of winning this fight.
And I'm going to pick him to win this fight here.
I don't know.
I just think there's more opportunity for him to grow.
He is the younger fighter, less experienced,
but that fight gave him a ton of experience.
And now he knows the size isn't a big deal,
and it's not something where he's overmatched size-wise.
Yeah, Chris Eubank Jr. can take some of his punches better than a 147-pounder could,
but he still rocked him with big-time shots.
And again, I just think a tweak in how he approaches the offense,
and a bit of more head-movement defense,
a bit more slipping punches and countering off versus trading in the pocket.
For Connor, Ben, will lead him to the promised land here.
And I just think there's too many things that,
Chris Eubank Jr. he's up against the eight ball with the weight cut, the age, rehydration, the damage from the first fight. He took some real damage. Both guys did, but it looked like Chris Eubank Jr. took more damage. I mean, the good thing for Eubank Jr. is that he's felt probably the most that he could probably feel as far as power from Conner Ben. He's felt what it's like to get hit with a real flush shot. I mean, he got clipped a couple different times. So he knows kind of what to look out for. And again, he may fight a more defensive safe fight this time around. But I'm leaning Connor Ben. And I know people aren't going to like that.
pick, but I just think there's too many things going against Chris Eubank Jr. in this rematch.
And Connor Ben has some stuff going against him too, I guess with the weight, but everything
else, the youth, the speed, the power. He has that. He just needs to be able to box a little
better. And that's the big question of how this fight will go, because the boxing experience
and the technical skill right now clearly go to Chris Eubank Jr. But I do think Conner Ben can make
up a little bit of that gap and fight a bit of a smarter fight this time around. That's just my
initial thoughts on the fight. I do wonder how this is going to go, you know, they both still don't
like each other. Mutual respect from the first fight. And the first fight was such a banger. I don't know
how easy it's going to be for the second fight to live up to it. Like, it's going to be really difficult
to replicate that night, the moment. Here comes Chris Eugink, Senior. He's in the corner after being against
the fight for months and months and that whole thing. And again, the fathers of the two sons being
there history repeats itself that whole deal i don't know if the hype is going to deliver like it did in the first
fight but if it comes anywhere close and they just have another good scrap then this is well worth it for the fan
again a massive risk for both fighters because they're fighting at weights they normally shouldn't be at
anymore and i do wonder how chris eubank senior sees this ultimately he came around and was there on fight
night whether you want to believe that was because it was a work or because he just wanted to be there
for his son or whatever, right?
He was there.
But this time, they've knowingly done the first one.
What does he think about this one, right?
And I know Nigel Ben will be there for Connor.
We know that.
But yeah, when I talked to Connor, when we were in New York,
he was dead set on doing the rematch.
And it was like there was no doubt in his mind that he was going to win it.
And then he also had some other ideas for 147.
So it has to be now.
For Connor Ben, for Chris Ebang Jr.,
and for this rematch,
to be now because again, Eubank Jr. is getting older.
Connor Ben needs to get his 147 career back on track.
He needs to go back down and really, if he wants to be a world champ,
get more experience on there against top level guys.
But if they were going to do it now is the time.
You couldn't really wait until the end of the year because then you're really starting
to put a distance between both guys and what they're trying to do in their perspective careers.
But listen, this one's going to be controversial.
I'm not going to lie to you and say that there's not disadvantages on both sides.
and it is a bit of an odd fight for both guys,
but it was the first time and it created match.
I'm also not going to lie and say,
I'm not excited for this because I am.
I am excited for it.
I'm sorry.
I do want to watch a rematch between the two.
Even though we did get a definitive first fight,
it was a good back and forth.
And Conor Bid did show a good fight.
Chris Eubank Jr. did everything he did to put Ben back in his spot
and showcase his ability.
I just think this time around it's going to be a different story
because I just think this time around,
Connor Ben's going to win it.
Again, two early predictions and I may flip-flop,
but for now I'm holding steady.
I think Connor gets him this time around
for the youth, for speed and power,
for now the experience of being in there
at that way against Chris Eubank Jr.
I think he has more ways to get better
and less things to overcome
than Chris Eubank Jr. to get this one done
in the second time around. I don't know if that sets up
a trilogy. I have no idea.
But I do want to see this fight. I am
excited for this fight. It is back.
Chris Eubank Jr., Connor bin, the rematch.
And it's going to be in Tottenham Stadium again,
which the turnout was incredible for last time.
I was there live myself and my guy True Jordy.
So I don't know exactly how that'll look this time around.
I don't know what the undercard is going to look like this time around,
but they had a great one.
In the first, especially my boy, Vidal Riley,
can he get on that undercard and get his fight again
in his home stadium in Tottenham?
I have no idea.
And also, who wins?
Think the weight will be 160?
I don't know for sure.
And Chris Eubank's senior, will he be there?
Nigel, the whole thing.
Listen, I only have questions right now, but we do have one answer, and that is the rematch is official.
What do you think about this fight?
Let me know down below, and as far as who wins on the night, don't have those answers either,
but I guess we'll find out.
All right, folks, we are back on the way concept presented by the Ring Magazine, and today,
I am taking a look at the face-to-face that went down almost a week ago now.
I don't know how I didn't see this, but I definitely missed it between Salt Poppy and Tony Ferguson.
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Luke Rockhold in the main event. We're going to take a look at the face off for the
co-main event between Tony Furries and Salt Poppy. It also has Dylan Dennis
versus Warren, the mechanic Spencer, and Misfits' first Fourier into
MMA. But today I want to get into the face-to-face that happened between Super Salt Poppy and Tony
Ferguson. Because listen, this fight is interesting for multiple reasons. I want to see if there's
any mental games being played or whatever else we can take away from Tony Ferguson's minds.
Really, I just want to see where Tony's mind is because I think I know where Salt Poppy is. I know
what he's going to bring to this fight when he's super dangerous. But I want to see what does Tony Ferguson
have? What is he thinking is going to be different this time around in boxing versus, you know,
what's going on with him in MMA and the age, experience, wear and tear, all that.
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But now, let's get back into the face-to-face.
Face, let's see what happened.
All right, so let's check this out.
Tony Ferguson saw Poppy face-to-face with our guy, B.L. running the show.
Let's see what happened.
This dude made that walk.
I'm making the wall.
walk for my first time. You have eight fights and I have zero. Everybody's underwriting me. They're saying
he's going to knock me out and everything. 90%. Tony, you're fighting a fucking info.
If we're going to get the Tony Ferguson math again, 90%. Also, they were supposed to,
they're supposed to be using these subtitles to say what he actually said. Tony keeps saying people
are underwriting him. I think he means to say that people are underestimating him for this fight.
I'm not sure who's Tony's underwriter, but I don't know that he understands what that word means.
Everybody's underwriting me.
They even said underestimating.
They got you, Tony.
Those captions saved you.
They're saying, he's going to knock me out and everything.
90%.
Tony, you're fighting a fucking influence.
So there goes the other 20% but all fucking negative.
No, he did it again.
Not even into the video.
It's just a preview.
And Tony is saying that 90-20 again.
Someone needs to get with Tony Ferguson and let him know that 90% plus 20% is not 100%.
It's 110.
Maybe he just thinks 110%
is how his life is, right?
It's 110% effort,
110% of fans,
110% of profit.
I don't know.
Tony has got his own way
of doing things,
so maybe it's just,
you know,
his inner workings coming out.
Any person who's got the fucking balls
to walk through the door
and to stay there
is a fucking fighter, bro.
I'm going to go out
on August 30th
and I'm going to handle everything
that I need to go
and get that victory.
Have you watched any of its fights?
And what do you make of them?
Dangerous?
I'm dangerous.
So,
you know this is your biggest moment i was gonna say we're 32 seconds in i don't know is this like a preview
because salt has said nothing which again i don't expect him to say anything but like tony is carrying
right now also tony's pants look like like football pants with like thigh pads at them i love it
tony salt is a pleasure to see you both to be honest i'm so surprised i'm seeing this face off right now
when this i'm not gonna lie i don't even know salt poppy's actual name that's crazy i've known him for like
five years now and i don't know his name i'm the asshole in this situation but just
hearing Tony, so I don't know his name.
It's got announced.
I had to double check, I had to refresh.
I think the whole world was refreshing,
because they didn't believe this were gonna happen.
So I'm actually gonna come to you first.
When you got that phone call from Mance Taylor
to say you were fighting this man,
that you were fighting a former UFC interim champion.
What was your reaction to that?
I mean, I was shocked.
Like, I really can't believe because,
and obviously not a lot of people get this type of opportunity.
And so I'm like, I'm so grateful.
so grateful for misfit boxing for giving me this fight big fights back to back and um yeah when
when i heard that i was going to fight tony ferguson there's something i couldn't say now i'm
going to be sharing the ring with a legend legendary fighter and um yeah i can wait that's it
and totally i ask you the same question when you got the crew miss fits does clearly think of salt
poppy as like a superstar you look at his social numbers they're ridiculous like he does have a high
level of social interaction. He's got charisma. He's got swagger. He can fight. So they look at him as
someone that can take over the mantle. Potentially, you know, to some degree with, I think it's going to
be more than one person that's going to have to fill the void of KSI when he stops fighting.
But so Bobby, they look at as one of those guys. Even after the slim loss, even after the Anthony
Taylor loss, they look at him as a guy to lead whatever they're going toward in the next two, three
years. So yeah, I mean, he keeps getting these massive opportunities because he does deliver. Even in losses,
He delivers fun fights.
So they clearly see him as a star, which is why he's gotten this opportunity.
And he said, you're fighting Salt Pappy.
Did you even know who Salt Pappy was?
No, Daniel, right?
Nathan.
Nathan, Nathan.
Nathan.
Nathan.
Okay.
I forgot.
Yes, he's told me his name before.
He said Daniel.
Me and Tony Boe, but look at the respect from Tony here.
No, I didn't know.
When it goes in.
Nathan, okay, all right.
Nah, we doing, Salt Pappy is a good stage name, all right?
to YouTube and it goes into influencers and TikTok.
I don't have anything against it.
I'm going to be real.
I wasn't competing.
When everybody was doing everything, I saved it for when it really mattered like now,
which is pretty cool.
So, I mean, nothing against you.
I really don't know, but I know you have, what, eight fights?
Eight fights, and I have zero.
This is my pro debut.
I was never allowed to box.
So it's different.
In MMA, it's different.
We have no shoes in MMA, and we have to worry about takedowns.
So now it's different.
It's an opportunity for me to be able to go in there, play another sport.
I come from multi-sport background when it comes to that way.
So it's awesome.
As soon as I got the phone call to be able to box, nothing against GFL, that's still there.
But I don't need to stay busy.
I like to fight.
I like to compete.
I don't know if anybody needs to let Tony know, but GFL is not still there.
I'm sorry, Doc.
Like, you know, I know that Tony was supposed to be one of the big signies at GFL.
And I think he was even supposed to fight Dylan Danis.
I'm not sure.
but someone has to let Tony know.
That shit is not happening.
That ship has not only sailed, it set sail and crashed immediately.
Nobody's protecting their neck at GFL.
It's not happening, dude.
And this dude went from a lot of big heavyweight all the way down to where he's at.
And I don't think a lot of people give social media influencers a lot of credit because an athlete's...
Sorry, I got to stop again.
What did Dylan say in my interview about what Salt Poppy was?
Because Tony's talking about, you know, Salt Poppy losing weight.
and he started at heavyweight, now he's come down to, I think they're fighting at like 160, 170, I'm not sure.
But when I asked Dylan why he wasn't fighting Tony, he said Tony's fighting someone that started fat to skinny.
I don't even know what Tony's doing.
He's fighting someone that started fat to skinny.
Dylan's the fucking man.
I know, y'all hate him, but he's the fucking goat, dude.
In my opinion, and we're going to go in there.
He's going to try to hit me.
I'm going to try to hit him, so it's going to go out there.
Have you watched any of its fights?
Of course.
And what do you make of them?
Southpaw.
Dangerous?
I'm dangerous.
Can he cause you any issues?
Not unless I want him to.
How about you? You've obviously seen his fights.
Yeah.
I'm not going to lie.
Salt Poppy can cause Tony some issues regardless if he wants him to or not.
I don't think Tony is taking him lightly.
I don't really know.
But the last thing you want to do, especially when you come over as an MMA guy to boxing,
we've talked about it in nauseam.
But to take these guys lightly because they haven't trained as long in martial arts
or they're not as committed to the sport as some of these high.
high level veterans were or are is a mistake.
Again, I'm not saying Tony's doing this, but Saul Poppy has the power, the speed, the timing
to cause Tony some real problem.
And yeah, Tony can be dangerous for sure, you know.
Whatever he's got left, I don't know, we'll see.
But out of the two of them in a boxing ring, I am leaning toward, not even leaning, I am
fully thinking that Salt is more dangerous.
I've seen a lot of his fights.
Like, you know, yeah, it's a big step up for me.
It's a big challenge for me.
but yeah, this will prove that I'm ready for the big challenge like Tony.
Have you seen the online reaction to this as well?
I mean, it's been going all over Twitter.
This is a really...
We said he's going to knock me out.
Yes, I just like, I just can't believe what the fans are saying
because look at Yusik, 38, Pina Paco of 46.
Tony is only 41.
It's going to be strong as hell.
And I'm going to have to like, you know, I'm going to be struggling, yeah, for sure.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That comparison don't work.
Manny Pachiaw at 46, that was an anomaly.
That was insane to see, by the way.
A lot about how good Manny was as a boxer,
eight division world champion,
not an MMA fighter that's 41,
that's already declining in his own sport
and declined in his own sport
to then come over and start boxing.
You're talking about Manny Pachiaw,
who even at the end of his career,
was still fighting, you know, losing some fights,
but fighting at around a top level.
and then came back and fought Mario Barrios
who's probably one of the worst champions in boxing.
But still, I thought, won the fight.
Bucig at 38. Again, been boxing all his life
is a world class, probably one of the best boxers we've ever seen.
So to act like, oh yeah, I can't believe the fans were saying Tony's going to get slept.
When Tony has never boxed and he's 41 and he's on like a seven-fight losing streak in MMA,
that's insane.
I want Salt to address though when Tony's like, yeah, you said you're going to knock me out.
Say it to him.
Salt loves to talk, like talk.
in the ring. He will talk his shit in the ring. But this one, he even said he's going to knock
Tony out. I want to see him, you know, yeah, I am going to knock you out. Yeah, yeah, here's why.
But he's not addressing that. I want to see him address that. He said he's going to knock me out.
So I've got fuel for the fire to be able to train for the last four years in MMA. Like when
Kabib and Connor never wanted to fight because those fucking guys are pussies. You step them forward
in the line and you're, yeah, yeah. A lot of people, they just don't do it. Like a lot of the fights
didn't interest me. This is a new sport. It's a new avenue for me to be able to go if I want to go.
I want to go play pro baseball later on, whatever.
I talk to my agent.
This is another avenue for me.
Did Tony Ferguson just say he wants to go play pro baseball later on?
I love Tony.
I do.
And I love his childlike aspiration to do all the things he never got to do as a youngster as a child.
But you are not playing professional baseball at 42, 3, whenever later on is?
No, in no world and no fantasy is that happen.
I love him.
And I hope he tries.
I really do.
Not even like, I'm not trying to see here and laugh at.
Tony. That's not the thing. I just love the fact that he doesn't ever give up. Honestly, I love it.
It bewilders me. It's nonsensical. It will not happen. Him playing at a professional level,
unless it's like a, you know, a farm league team that kind of gives him the Michael Jordan treatment.
Like, all right, try it. But I just love that he's like, fuck it. I still am going to do these things.
My age doesn't matter. Like, I love that. It's just that will not happen.
And like I said, I'm not going to bullshit in the morning. I can't. So I can't sandbag anymore,
man. So Tony said that you said you were going to knock him out. Now he's in front of you. Do you
still believe.
Good question, Beul.
I mean, I do have a lucky one punch knockout,
and that's all I can do, really.
If it happens, it happens.
But, yeah.
Oh, Salt's playing, like, oh, yeah,
I just got the lucky one punch.
Why is he doing that?
We all know that you're better
than a lucky one punch knockout,
and if it happens, it happens.
Just be about it, you know what I'm saying?
Talk your stuff.
This isn't like a you trying to disrespect Tony thing.
And I know Salt likes to be respectful and not talk,
but he's kind of playing like,
I am just the influencer, da-da-da-da type of thing.
I wish you would kind of stay in on business with it and be like, yeah, you know, listen, I think
I can touch him on the chain.
You know, he's a great.
He's a legend in the UFC and, you know, I appreciate him for that or whatever, but he's
coming into my realm and I'm going to show him why this game's different.
That wouldn't be him disrespecting, Tony.
That would just be stating matter-of-factly what he wants to do.
I want to see that because I know he's confident in what he's going to do.
I just don't know why he won't say it.
Tony, you fought people like Barbosa, Pettis, Gate Cheap, the top of the food chain.
Why now saltpathy?
Because Nathan's cool, man.
Like, he's enough to be able to want to go out there and put his record on the line.
And he was like, yeah, Daniel's pretty cool guy.
He's like, oh, shit, Nathan.
To anybody else that doesn't understand the complexity of walking through a fucking boxing gym door, how hard it is, it's easier to stay there.
It's harder to walk through there, get that first initial walk through there.
This dude made that walk.
I'm making the walk for my first time.
Am I nervous?
Yeah, I was a little nervous.
This is boxing.
But if I didn't have that nervous energy, it doesn't matter if I had here.
him or anybody else in front of it.
I'm not going to fucking do it.
I wasn't even feeling that for MMA anymore.
And it was just fucking boring as shit to me.
It was just like I was just doing it just to fucking do it
so people can see me compete until we both parted ways in a good, not cut,
both ways.
If I got my shit and I wanted my stuff and I go back, yeah, maybe.
I got other things to accomplish.
And I'm going to go out there in August 30th and I'm going to handle everything that I need
to go and get that victory.
He's fired up, man.
He's fired up.
Yeah, listen, Tony left the UFC.
Maybe, you know, the way they, I don't know.
I don't know how it was done, but it was the right decision.
For the UFC, obviously, to not have Tony in any more fights because he was losing,
consistently taking tons of damage consistently.
You know, and Tony, it just didn't, whether he wasn't into it or not anymore, he was going
to continue losing fights.
The competition level in the game had just passed him by.
That's really simply all it was.
Whether they cut him, whether he left, it doesn't really matter.
It was a good decision.
So I'm glad he's, if he's going to compete in combat sports, I'm glad he's doing this versus
doing that if that makes sense. Probably making a shit ton more money over here. I mean, again,
the danger when you step into combat sports is there regardless. So the people that are upset about
him continuing to fight. This would have happened in the UFC. It would have happened in any other
boxing match. It would have happened to kickboxing. So I get it. But at the same time,
if he wants to compete, this is probably the best option for him.
Transition being like from MMA to boxing, because you mentioned multiple times now that it's a
completely different sport. So how are you going to transition in this time against someone that's
already had eight fights and still have a chance.
I've been wanting to box since I was little.
I was never allowed to.
I grew up in Michigan.
My father's raised me in military in the country,
and I was able to have heavy bags unless I bought if I bought them
and speed bags.
I've been hitting the speed bags since I was about 14, 13, 15,
something like that.
And I would always break my bags and stuff,
but my father tells me he's like, I'm not paying for your school.
You're going to go to college.
He's like, in my roof, you're going to go to college.
He's like, you're going to play sports in order
to get yourself a scholarship.
And I did.
pick my choice and I did that.
And all of my stuff
kind of like went down and I collected
every single side quest. You play video games
you understand side quests and you understand all this
kind of shit. I did everything from knockout of the
night, submission, fight of the year,
Ultimate Fighter Trophy,
the UFC belt. Like I'm dude,
I've gone all of this shit.
I don't really care because
I'd love that stuff but I want to collect more.
I got a bunch of medals for wrestling.
I got national championships, state championship
football ring for wrestling and like, like
Does Tony wear his high school football state championship ring around?
Hell yeah, dude.
I actually kind of fuck with that.
Because I don't, I mean, my little brother, what a state title.
And I don't even think he knows where his ring is.
Like, you can tell he, I don't know that Tony wanted to be a mixed martial artist.
I don't know that he, like, the way he talks about other sports he wants to do,
maybe he just wanted to play a ton of different sports.
He wants to be an athlete.
He talks about football.
He talks about wrestling.
Talks about baseball.
Talks about boxing.
This is him, again, being a big kid, getting to live out his dream.
of doing the other sports he never got to do as a kid.
I think that's a cool storyline.
I like collecting shit, and I don't like collecting losses.
I had to demonstrate to everybody what humility was,
so that way everybody could understand that nobody was perfect.
And if they took it with the grain of salt, maybe they learned something.
So when you hear all these accolades.
I don't know what that meant from Tony.
He said he had to demonstrate humility so everybody could understand how to take a loss.
Is he acting like, oh, I had to lose so I could show people how to lose?
I don't think he wanted to lose those fights.
I don't know.
I don't know. Sometimes Tony be saying stuff. I'm like, maybe it's going over my head. I don't know.
And you see what it's achieved. How do you maintain the confidence and the calmness that you have right now?
I'm cook.
Like he said, yeah. And yeah, I do have a chance because I do have one-punch knockout power.
And yeah, we'll just see what happened in August 30th. And I'll be ready for the best Tony Ferguson.
Is that how you win the fight? It's through a knockout punch.
I can try to win like, you know, by point.
but I always want to go for the knockout because of the knockout bonus
right there's a knockout bonus yes you know I was broke when I was in the
ultimate fighter I was a broke in the ultimate fighter I went there like my wife
was helping me pay my rent and I should and I go in there Ramsey Nyjim said
this he's like 5k baby because he went in there and he finished somebody and I was
more I think it's 25 I mean wait wait wait wait wait wait yeah it's like oh shit
it would go we'll make a rent no there's some fighter of the night as well
Fight off the night, yeah.
Two chances, 50K.
It's a big deal, maybe we can make them double it.
Went to crossover box, it tells you that they think.
Yeah, I mean, listen, that's a cooler answer from Salt Hoppy.
Like, yeah, I maybe could win, even though he's still trying to play coy, like,
ah, you know, I just got the one knockout punts.
That's really all I got.
Bullshit.
But saying like, yeah, listen, I want to finish the fight.
I want to get that knockout bonus.
And then Tony being like, let's double it.
Maims, open your pocketbooks.
I'd open up the wallet.
Cut the check.
They can knock you out.
What's your reaction?
to that. Nothing. I've played, I've been wrestling for a long time in freestyle wrestling where you had to
stand next to your opponent, right? So I've had people mean mug me, try to be my best friend, hate me,
fucking not say shit, doing all this stuff. And I've got thousands of wrestling matches with shoes on,
different. So, he has a good point. Like, when Salt says he wants to knock Tony out, Tony's like,
I've heard it all. Like, it doesn't bother me. I've had people try to be nice, be mean, not say anything,
mean mug me. But then he adds the, which, he adds the, which. He says, he wants to knock Tony out. Tony's like, I've heard it all. Like, like, he's
he adds the with the shoes on part i know he's fighting in shoes and it is different than
fighting not with shoes on but i don't know what the if he thinks the ultimate difference between
mama and boxing is i get to wear shoes i mean that's not it but i he keeps focusing on the shoes
maybe he just has some sick boxing shoes he wants to wear he's like yo i'm showing up in jordan's
a manna serrano style what's up dude finally i've been trying to wear jordan in all my fights
no this is your biggest moment on this stage when it comes to miss fits boxing yeah how are you
going to deal with that pressure the anxiety the nerves i can't draw a line on this shit and everything
like that any person who's got the fucking balls to walk through the door and to stay there is a
fucking fighter bro like i'm not even playing anymore i don't give a shit and that's the hardest
part is getting off your fucking couch getting off your ass and getting into a fucking gym i went to
the boxing gym over here it was 12 3 or some fucking gym the guy the guy didn't know who the
fuck i was for one i didn't give a shit i'm just there was asking if i could hit the boxing he's like
and he busted out his laptop and see if he could make a schedule like calling this guy i'm like i just
fucking walked over the bag and kind of hit it and I was like, no, this isn't where I want to be.
You kind of understand where, like, well, people, they kind of think like that.
That's no who I want to be with. They can fuck off.
And I can understand that you've probably been the same way because everybody's underwriting me.
They're saying he's going to knock me out and everything.
I'm, so the question was asked to Salt Poppy.
He didn't even answer.
Tony starts talking about how he walked into a gym in the UK and the guy didn't know him.
So he was trying to figure out if he could let him in.
Tony touched their bag and got a bad vibe and it's like, I don't want to be here.
They can fuck off.
I have no idea what the fuck's going on.
What the hell is happening here?
Can I understand that you've probably been the same way?
Because everybody's underwriting me.
They're saying he's going to knock me out and everything.
90%.
But then everybody's saying, Tony, you're fighting a fucking influence.
So there goes the other 20% but all fucking negative.
Like, come on.
Yeah.
It's all Bobby said, yeah.
Like, I don't know what the fuck to say to that.
The overall message from Tony is like, yeah, I'm pissed that people think this influencer is going to knock me out.
And then something about the fact that, you know, 90% think that I can't even fight anyway.
But the other 20, even though it should be 10, think that the influencer is going to knock me out because he's better than me in boxing too.
So he's frustrated.
I get it.
But he's not articulating it very well.
It's all poppy's confused.
We all are.
Well, I can just do my best, man.
I'm going to do my best.
That's it.
Get me heated.
I'm supposed to get mad at him and I'm not.
Like, when it goes into an athlete, we're going to both prepare and we're going to do our shit
and we're going to go out there and you guys are going to have a fucking amazing show.
So you guys need to fucking buy that shit.
Don't stream.
Like, whenever I fight, I know you guys are buying this shit.
I just fucking know because you guys have that much respect for me.
I'm that OG when it comes into this original genius kind of shit.
So.
Play the pay for view.
Yeah, paper views, man.
Like seriously, like a lot of people, fuck them.
Whatever they got to think and shit like that.
you've got a couple fighters that are on this card
they're going to go out there and they're going to give you the shit
not because I'm just fighting but this is a fucking dope-ass card man
so facts dude and Tony is right
like he has a lot of OG fans
original genius is not one I've heard for OG
original gangster you know what I'm saying but
he's kind of both he's a gangster
always has been in MMA and he does
have a loyal fan base and
I do think that that fan base
will come over and watch Tony
because they've watched him in the UFC they watched him
you know ascend to the highest
of highs and then obviously they watch the losing streak there at the end so they've always stood
by aside i think that the misfits did a great job getting him on this card if he wanted to fight
which it seems like he does i personally don't think tony should be fighting anymore but if he's
gonna fight he's gonna do it somewhere and he's probably gonna make the most money doing it here
at misfits so fair play and i do i think he commands a great audience agree more so i've just got a
couple more question before we wrap things up i'm gonna start off with you ternie we're only if
matter a few weeks away now what's your prediction for this fight when that bell rings
how does the fight go for you?
You're going to have to tune in.
I don't like to talk too much about other shit like that.
You guys are going to have to tune in when it goes into it.
You guys are going to be in for a good fight?
It's going to be amazing camp.
Camp's been cool already.
It's awesome.
Look at my new hairline too.
Thank you, Bosley.
Honestly, how do you not love him?
Look at my new hairline, thanks.
Did he say thanks, Bosley?
That's awesome.
So awesome.
He put a little hair dye in there, too.
you can tell he went a little just for bin a touch of gray right silver fox tony i like it
in question how does this fight go for you i can just do whatever it takes to win and uh
hoping it'll get lucky don't bite me yeah don't bite my here fucking everything just kidding yeah
i'm gonna hit him he's gonna try to hit me that's how it's gonna go from mine well this
gonna be one of the final times you guys hate that salt poppy keeps saying like oh i'm just
going to try to get lucky bro
Just be about it, dude.
We all know you're confident.
Set yourself up.
Call your shot.
If he was just being humble, like, that's not even being him being humble, right?
That's just him being like, oh, you know, I'm just the influencer.
It's like playing a character.
I get it.
But I want him to like, you know, stand on that shit.
We've seen it.
You can't hide it from us anymore, you know?
Face off before we get into fight week.
So can I get some final words from you both?
So, first sir.
Made the best memory, sir.
This is about it.
Do you have any final words for Salt Pappy?
No.
You can see you 30th.
I can see you on the 30th.
Handshake.
Thank you, sir.
It's been an absolute pleasure.
Thank you so much for joining us.
Not a lot of people want to do handshake and I like, you know, I don't know why.
Marge, put your hand up.
Let's get the other one.
Yeah.
My hands are bigger than Brocks.
He got big hands.
My hands are bigger than Brocks.
Tony's so awesome dude.
He's off.
Put your hand up here.
Let me see.
Got big hands.
Well, I appreciate both your time.
Thank you so much.
Being an absolute honor doing this face off and make sure you're getting
your tickets and going and watching it live on the zone august 30th manchester a o arena that's cool uh that was
awesome tony is a pleasure to listen to even if it is a bit confusing if he is all over the place he's still
tony ferguson and the reason you love him as a fighter is because of that his personality is
erratic sometimes doesn't make any sense but you know he's passionate about what he's doing right he's not
doing something he doesn't care about he's always been that way with the ufc uh he's doing that now with
the crossover boxing space.
I want to see him stay safe.
I know that's not maybe even possible because he's fighting and it is combat sports.
But obviously, in my opinion, I'm still sticking with Salt Poppy winning this fight.
I say obviously, and it's only, it's not a disrespect to Tony.
It's just because of the situation in where we're at, right?
Tony's career, his age, the mileage, the wear and tear, the lack of experience,
specifically just boxing.
I mean, he alluded to it.
Salt Bobby's got eight fights.
He's got none.
Jake made a career.
off this when he first started boxing is bringing guys in that had never boxed that were high level
MMA fighters and exploiting the difference between high level MMA and you know entry level box there are
completely different sports you guys just watched me get ragdalled by Dylan Danis after having a decent
enough showing in my first ever little boxing match it's it's not even close and this is why you
don't see boxers go to MMA because they're not the same sport and they would get ragdolled and destroyed so
I expect the same formula I mean if it ain't broke don't fix it time and time again
we've seen it. I expect Salt Pappy to win this, but I could be wrong. And Fight Week is almost
here now. We're a couple of weeks away. I'm going to be traveling all over the country. So it's the last
time you guys will see me in the setup room for a while. But the next time you see me on a broadcast
will be in Florida. I'm going to be doing some stuff with MVP. Their prospects card coming up on
the 22nd. Then I will be in Manchester at the AO Arena for Miss Fits 22. Fun fights, fun week,
fun month ahead. As far as what happens
with Tony Ferguson Salt Poppy, I think I
know, but on August
30th, I guess we'll find out.
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