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Episode Date: July 7, 2025

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and I am sitting next to the showstop, the King of New York. One half of your main event, July 12th, the Louis Armstrong Stadium, it's Edgar Berlang. What's up, my man? So, baby, good. Chilling, bro. Hey, first off, you didn't have to wear more. You didn't have to have so much ice on you.

I didn't know if it was Edgar Berlanger or a freezer I was talking to. This man got ice, dude. You're wearing my condo on your neck. What are we doing? You just had to stun on me? Like, what are we doing? No, man.

You know, this is my image, you know. I grew up, you know, loving, looking good, you know what I'm saying? I always felt if I look good, I feel good, you know, I could do the things I want good. So you think I could pull it off or not? I don't, you know, I can pull the chain off. Maybe one. Maybe one tennis chain.

Just one, a little bitty one? You can, now, you can pull it all. Okay. But then you're going to go from being like, like, you look like, you probably like do movies and shit. Okay. To like a guy that. I'm going to get a square off here, you know, saying. Yeah.

Have it nice. You put the part, you know. Get the chains on there. You're going to really like a New Yorker. I got a bunch of friends that are, that live up in this area, Puerto Rican, for you, how important is it to put it on for not just the city of New York, but for Puerto Rican heritage, for everything that matters most to you? It's everything.

That's what, you know, I'm not going in there by myself. You know, I'm going in there with my team, with my family for Puerto Rico. There's a lot of Puerto Ricans on the island that's with me, you know, and I'm going in there with them. My ancestors, you know, from the 1800s, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Those people are going in that ring with me. You know, I think.

that, I keep saying, I know that I'm destined for some great, and Homs is just in the way, you know what I'm saying? So we can't overlook him. I can't look what's behind them, and, you know, that's the kind of a rematch and this, and there's a lot of things that's lined up for us that could happen, you know. But right now we've got to focus on him, you know, because if we don't get through him, everything goes out the window.

Facts. A lot of, I think you said, a lot of people in your corner, And before we got on camera, you said, I got to perform. Yeah, I got to. I'm my home. And my home, one thing about New Yorkers, bro, they love a fight. And they love grit. And they love when you put your balls on the table and get it.

You know what I'm saying? And they're, listen, New York is a place where if they love you, they love you. But if they don't like you, they'll shit on you. You see with the Knicks. Now they start doing parades and everything. everything. You all were a little premature. Yeah, they go crazy, bro.

Can't be doing that. You got the Celtics winning last night? Y'all thought the series was over. It ain't over yet, Bigman. But they feel like it's a victory because, you know, the Knicks always been in a dump. So it's like when they get this far, it's like, it's like, is the high- So are we back, by the way, or the Knicks back? I hope they are, you know what I'm saying?

I want them to win. They from New York, you know, I'm not like a big, big, big basketball fan, but, you know, I've rep New York. Are you big, like baseball, football, now? Everything. You know, Jets. Jines. Okay.

Giants, I love. Jets, you know what I'm saying? But Giants is my team. Yankees, you know, I love the Yankees. I love the Mets. You know what I'm saying? There's a lot of players. How are you going to love the Yankees and the Mets?

You got to love, I'm from New York, man. I didn't know if that's a thing. No, one thing about me is that if you get love from both places, you can't try to reciprocate. Yeah, you got to reciprocate. Yeah, you got to be equal. You know what I'm saying? I got to be in the middle and just, you know, love both.

So the Nets, too. obviously Brooklyn, come on. The Brooklyn Nets, basketball team. Yeah, but they're not, oh, yeah, yeah. That's got to be your squad. Yeah, but they just, I don't know. I feel like, but me they, like, new stuff. Expansion team, yeah.

They got a, next is like legend. They used to be Jersey bound. They moved up here. Now you claim in Brooklyn, and they like that, right? Yeah, yeah, it's crazy. So I can't come up here and claim Brooklyn if I just move up here, right? I'm from the South. I'm from Tennessee, so we can't just.

You got to go through me if you want to. No, I got to check in. Okay, I'll check in. I'm off. I didn't know. I had to check out. That's cool. So, yeah, talk to me about Hamza, man.

We just did the face-off. Yeah. We did the press conference. You've been in front of him all day. What's the energy, man? What are you feeling from him? Fight, fight. You know what I'm saying?

I was trying to go away for nine weeks. Going to habination mode. Because he thinks you're crazy, by the way. You can tell. I don't go to fuck what he thinks. You know what I'm saying? I am crazy. A little bit.

You got to be crazy. In this game, you got to be. Look at the legends. Look at every legend. Look at Floyd and Mayweather. Look at Connor McGregor. Look at Michael Jordan Look at Kobe Bryant

Mike Tyson Look at Mike Tyson Look at Muhammad Ali These guys are crazy People thought they were psycho But you can't be a normal And you can't be a normal And they think you're going to be a legend

Ain't no way, bro Being like that Quiet, you ain't gonna be You gotta be a little crazy Roberto Durenne, you got to be crazy You know what I'm saying? Julio Cesar Chavez Gotta be crazy

These guys is crazy You know So you got to be a little crazy to get to that level. I don't think if you're normal, you won't get there. You got to be a little bit crazy to get up there because when you're crazy, you want to do, you want to, you know, try no things in the ring, you know what? If you're a certain way, you're not, you're going to be scared to take that, to take that leap of faith and say, you know what, let me try this. Let me try this. I'm going to be in the gym. Yo, Mark, I want to go 25 rounds and sparring today. You know what I'm

like that's crazy shit. You just told me too before we got on camera. You're like, bro, I'm about to go train right now. Yeah. Today got you, today got you hyped up or you just... No, yesterday as soon as I got here, I landed, my flight got delayed. Me too, by the way. What's going on?

LaGuardia, get it together, you know what I mean? Tripping. And I came from Tampa, so when I got here, I landed like at 10, I caught my strength conditioning coach at my, yo, I'm here. Like, I'm getting to the hotel. I'm dropping my shit off. I'm grabbing my bag and we're going straight to the gym. We was in the gym to like almost two in the gun.

I can tell, man, the gun's popping out. I didn't know those was registered. The state of New York, you know what I mean? You got to get those things checked out, you know. But I came back, 2 in the morning, 8, I got up at 9 in the morning, here with y'all doing all of this. After I'm done, I'm going right back to the train. Just locked in.

That's it, bro. At the end of the day, man, like, you know, all the talk and everything we're doing is, you know, it's cool. But, you know, when it's all sent done to the lot, 12, when me and him is in that ring, it's only me and him. Yeah. I like that, though. I like the talk because, one, to me, it shows you're confident.

And two, I kind of talked to you about this earlier. You put pressure on yourself. can't really anybody else say shit to you. You know what I'm saying? Like if you put, like I'm this, this is what I'm going to go do. That pressure has already been put on you by you. So whatever they say, they say, it don't matter.

Because you already got, put it on me. Go ahead. Say whatever it is. There's nobody that's, yeah, exactly. Everything is mental. As long as you go here, this controls your body. Your mind controls your body.

Whatever you tell yourself you want to do, you're going to do it, you know what I'm saying? If I want to run through this wall, right? No, I'm serious. Right. No, I'm serious. If I want to run through that war right there.

Don't, by the way. We can't have it. Mark always told me, if you want to go through some, you put your mantra, you're going to do it, bro. Like, you see, like, the rats, right? Right. You see the rats when they start digging holes. Okay. Like, I'm from the projects.

Big problem out here in New York, right? Yeah, a big rat at you. I'm from the projects. I used to have a lot of rats. We shoot them where I come from. We take the gun out and just line them up, you know what I'm saying. We chase them with fucking, with bats and, and, and. Being off on the rats?

The mobs. Trying to get them out. But like when we was younger, but, you know, a rat, what it does, it keeps scratching, it keeps scratching until it gets that hole, and then it down is inside the house, right? So it's the same way with us. Whatever we put them onto, we're going to do it, facts. So when it comes to this fight, you know, like I said,

I saw this energy between you and Shiraz. Something you pointed out, and I thought was interesting, you were like, to me, you're Canello. Like, you're the best person, even if you already went to 12 with Canelo, you're the best person I've ever faced because you're the next guy I face. And you felt like he didn't have that same energy for you. I know.

That's how I knew I beat him already. I already beat him. Mentally, you just think... Mentally, I already beat him. He's checked. Like, he's trying to overlook you already, thinking the next thing. Right day I beat him.

I start talking about I just beat you. You don't even know I just beat you, bro. Because I'm looking at you like Connollo. I'm going away for Kent, like I'm not... I'm not part of my word. No, I'm not going on... I'm not going back home. I'm going away.

Like, he's... He's Mocanillo. You know what I'm saying? Once I get him out the way, it's like, all right. All right, no, yo, Turkey, let's sit down, baby. You know what I'm saying? Let's talk, man. What did you say to him?

You said Turkey was what? Turkey's his poppy. You know, that's his poppy right there. Turkey got him like this walking like, hey, hey, don't talk. When I talk, don't say nothing. When I tell you to move, you move. So he's doing that. That's what I'm saying.

He don't want to be in New York. Like, he want to be fighting in New York. Come on. He's just doing this because they're putting the pressure. So I'm like, yo, you got to take this fight, because if not, you're not going to get the Canelo fight. You know what I'm saying? So he's like, oh, fuck, I'm going to take the fight, but. But you think about it, like, the way you talk about how Turkey looks at him,

that says a lot for how Turkey looks at you, that he wants Shiraz to come over here in your backyard and take this kind of challenge of this first fight at 168. That's a big deal, man. Yeah, maybe Turkey's underestimated me. I think, Turkey, I think you're underestimated. Just a little bit. Okay. And it's maybe, you know, it's boxing, so I don't take nothing personal.

But she'll light a fire, too. It lights a fire because then after that we're going to sit down with you. We sit down like this, me and you. We have some dinner. She kicked me out, Turkey, you can sit here. And we, you know, we took real money. We talk real money. They, they, you know.

Listen, I ain't pocket washing. You look like you got it right now. No, no, no. They could buy this right here. A million of these. A million of these, they can buy a million times, you know? So you got to respect, you know. A hundred percent.

The money's different, facts, you know. Now, speaking of the money being different, 100K bet, huh? I watched it go down. The handshake made it official. Well, I don't know if it's official official, but we're going to honor it? You think they're going to honor it? Oh, yeah, yeah. I already spoke to his guy.

Okay. He said, yeah, so. 100K on the line. Does that make it a little more sweet for you? Yeah, hell, yeah. Now I guess we're going. He never did no shit like that. I was going to say you kind of stuck it on him, and it was like,

Do we have to look around and say, yeah? I do shit like that. Okay. You don't even know, I do shit like that. I don't do it. I better myself my whole life. That's why I'm comfortable. He ain't telling me that's better 100K.

I was the one that told him that. Yeah. You know the type of shit I do? I lose like 500 at the casino. That's the shit I'm on. And I don't go back. That's mine. Let's go.

When you're doing 100K, that's stuff. I know, but now is, I did more than that on myself. Like, basically my whole life, I've better on myself. You know what I'm saying? But that's why you are in the position you're in, I think. And that's why you're going to the place you're going. You talked about risk. You talked about being a little crazy.

It's honestly just you saying yes to every challenge in front of you, man. I respect the hell out of it. Yeah, and I want to fight the best. I'm not over here, trying to pick and nobody. I want to fight the best. That's why this. And I want to make the biggest fights happen. Yes.

Where there's a lot of fans and, you know, people can enjoy. That's the part of boxing. You know what I'm saying? People worry about their old. People worry about a lot of different things, man. It's about giving the fans a great fight, bro. Look at me in Connollo. Nobody don't talk about.

They talk about, what they talk about is, yo, you and Conno, man. Y'all need to do a rematch, bro. Why? Bro. In that arena, everybody was on their feet, and I'll tell you. I was in Vegas that night. I remember. You know, everybody in that arena was on their feet.

That's why it went from Bulls to after the 12th round. I was leaving. I felt like a fucking superstar, bro. You earned so much respect. I was walking through the MGM to go out of dinner at a little diner that I was in an MGM. Bro, I had a mob of Mexicans, bro, mobbing me, bro. It's pictures telling me I'm a legend, telling thank you. Like, bro, they don't remember.

They're not remembering, oh, you lost, no. They remember, yo, you're kind of fought a fucking amazing fight, bro. Just like the Guardian Ward. No, I don't, I never spoke about, yo, who won that fight? I just look at the fight. I'm like, yo, that was a fucking war, all those three fights. That's what they talk about. They don't talk about all, but, but Ward 1, no.

They talk about, yo, they went out of it. And that's what boxing is about. What's your relationship now like with Canelo? I'm interested because it felt like there was a lot of respect between you two after the fight. And then I saw you kind of gone off on him on Twitter. What's it like right now? How do you look at Connolly? Now it's hot.

It's back up. No respect. Why is that? Because I gave you too much, I gave you so much respect after. the fight. You know what I'm saying? I tell me, yo, you changed my life. Thank you. Yeah. You know, thank you for the opportunity. Like I, I, and then you went on, on, and you did an interview and you, you said I ran, you're crazy. I'm trying to survive. And it's so funny that he's saying that the whole fight week. And then he fights a guy at a school. He fights a guy that's

really trying to survive. And it's like, then you see him complaining like to school like, yo, bro, come on, man, fight, man. So it's like, who was really trying to survive? You know what I'm saying and you know me I'm a guy that you try to troll me you try to you know make fun of me I'm gonna throw you right back so so that one's now it's back up now yeah hell yeah now it's personal me and him it's personal but I gotta get course I gotta get my shit back of course now now when it comes to fighting in general I've always had this question ready for you because I feel like you're a guy that gets down outside of the ring too you've been in any street fights man I was younger yeah any any any like crazy one that you cared to not maybe you know

I'm saying? We ain't trying to. No, not crazy. But I'm not going to lie, man. Like, a lot of people love me. You know, and I knew how to fight. Remember, I was boxing. I was six years old.

So, you know, when I was younger, my dad went away for prison, you know, in the project and stuff, I had a, I was, imagine me, life skin, like you, no facial hair, pretty boy. You know, these guys was bad little kids, you know what I'm saying? They were breaking car windows, robbing cars, you know what I'm saying, working with bats and stuff. stuff, you know, and it was getting, it used to get crazy, you know, and I used to want to be outside. I'm a kid. I want to hang out outside, you know, and I used to go outside, and I used to prove myself, you know what I'm saying? I had to get my respect, so I used to have to beat people up, you know what I'm saying? And I used to like, yo, and I used to get it. Boom, ba, boom,

right, boom, right? Straight like that. And then after that, just in my project, they was just like, yo, Eger, you used to call me, Eger, you, Eger, you know what I'm saying? Out of school, coming out of school was like a fight, boom, and then I got my respect. got to a point where everybody learned not to mess with you. Yeah, and then also, too, you know, me going to the gym, so I stood a, I stood, it happened a lot when my father went to prison because, like, I used to skip school. I used to try to skip school and also skip the gym, you know what I'm saying, to like, you know, be outside. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know.

It's where everybody else is, yeah. And, you know, that's what, like, drew me into, like, want to be in the streets and fight, you know what I'm saying? And I, one time when I dad, like, my sister, like, was fighting with this, you know, this young kid, like, grabbed my sister by the hair. And, like, my dad was like, yo, my dad told me, like, yo, look, we did it to your sister. I looked.

Went up to him. Boom, knocked him out. One shot. Knocked him out. Boom. Yeah, he, like, grabbed my sister by the hair. It's over. It's over.

You know, my stepbrother was way older than me. He was in the school together. I used to be like, they used to be like, yo, like, one time we was in, like, I was in the class, but my stepbrother was older than me. This is my ex-step brother. He was older than me. And I was like, I used to pretend. check him. So, like, they came to my class and, yo, these two kids are being, was being

the shit out of your mother. I was like, where they are? It was in the bathroom. I asked the teacher. Can I go to the bathroom? Yeah, you go. You know, you got a reason? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I go to the bathroom. They stood there. Demolished them in the bathroom. Bing, bang, I swear they got, beat, bang, bang, bang, boom, boom, boom, both of them. Got suspended, trying to expel me out out to school, you know, so. You've been, you've been in them streets. Yeah, yeah. Listen, I grew up very sheltered. Thank you to my mom and dad. Shelter homes. Shelter.

Country boys, shelter. I've seen like six years old, bro, seeing shootouts. Oh, shelter homes. Different. I was like, wait, well, sorry, completely different. My shelter, your shelter, different. You know, is that, bro, I wake up, and you had fucking car windows in the Bronx. Here, car windows splashing.

Bops. And I get up. It was in a shelter, and I was in the Hunts Point. Get up, I was climbing on top of the where the sink is at. It was a window, and I was just standing at the whole shootout. They was just shooting back and forth. My mom grabbed me crying. get down, get on the floor.

You know, it was like level, it was like almost on the floor. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. On a street floor. By the way, the way you're talking about this is like it's just nothing, which is crazy to me because I would be petrified for the rest of my life.

Yeah, it's like a, shape you though. This is what shaped you. It made me humble too. Yeah. It made me humble because it made me, you know, respect, you know, a lot of things because, you know, that life is not cool, you know, I don't condone it. So me seeing that, like, and then, you know,

my dad going to prison and leaving and coming back. and then leaving again going to prison, I just had a different type of respect, you know what I'm saying, for people that, you know, that's in their life. And then I try to like, you know, talk to these young guys now, you know what I'm saying? And telling them they're, listen, bro, you can't be doing that, you know what I'm saying?

I gotta do this the right way, you know? And a lot of people, like, drawn to me because they see me and I'm a positive guy, you know, I'm not a sucker, but I'm also, because for you to do good in life, you don't gotta be a sucker, you know what I'm saying? A lot, I feel like a lot of people feel like that, Like for you to be a good person and do good in life,

whether you've got a career or whether you're working on a father, they feel like, oh, that's a sucker. No, it's not a sucker. It's a real man. You know what I'm saying? A real man is a guy to take care of his family, take care of his mom's, take care of his father, you know what I'm saying? Take his kids.

You know, that's a real man. Love that. You know, being in the streets and acting like a bad boy, now. It's not cool, you know. Well, now you're doing this. To take care of your family, give me one last, down the lens prediction. July 12th, you step in that ring,

across from you is Hamza Shiraz, the bell rings, what happens? Tell the people. Soros? There he is, man. Edgar Verlanga. Once again, he's won half of your main event. Stay tuned, July 12th from the Louis Armstrong Stadium. Thanks to the ring. It's the way concept. What happens then? I don't have those answers, but I guess we'll find out. Folks, welcome back to the way concept presented by the ring. And today I am sitting with the WBC lightweight world champion. set to defend his belts in Louis Armstrong Stadium on July 12th and one of two big

main events against William Zapata. It is none other than Shakur Stevenson. Shakur, what's up, baby? How you doing, my man? I'm good. I'm good. Just got out of gym working. I heard. I heard.

Today was another day of training. How is, I mean, everybody asked this question. It's the typical, you know, media member to fight her question. But how is training camp going? It's been good, you know. I think this one of the best camp that I'd have had. I think we're ready. We're ready.

It feels like you've got a different mindset for this fight. And, you know, definitely a chip on your shoulder in this one. And you've almost answered every question that I've heard you talk about this fight with, you know, not that you have anything to prove, but something you want to prove in this one. What does this fight mean for your career, for your legacy, and for potentially being a breakout superstar here? I think this fight means everything. I think that Rapeta is a hell of a fighter.

He's going to bring the best out of me. So you up the competition with somebody like me, and I'm going to up the level also. So I think the fans and everybody are going to see the greatest version of me, and I can't wait to show it. Yeah, you know, everybody's talked about Zapata and, you know, his volume punching, is forward pressure, and they've spoken about it almost like it's,

you know, potentially going to be more of a problem. for you. I look at it as more of an opportunity for you as more of a reason for you to to be able to showcase your skills. Go ahead. I think so too. I think that a lot of people going to think I'm crazy when I say this, but you know a guy like his opinion. He has 27 knockouts, right? I have 11 knockouts, right? Yep, 23 and no 11 knockouts. I'll punch harder than him. I'll punch harder than him. And I think that on fight night, that's what's going to be the biggest difference between me. Like that. Now, when it comes to this fight, you know, there's been a lot of talk recently about big stars in boxing and how you perform on the biggest stages.

We've seen some fighters recently not perform, right, in front of the biggest eyes. I wouldn't say, yeah, you know what it is. It's in your backyard. It's right there. Obviously, you got a lot of people coming. Is there any more pressure on you in this fight? Or do you just, again, just feel like it's more of an opportunity to let your star shine? Oh, pressure.

Pressure don't exist. Pressure only exists if you make it. The pressure comes from the mental and the imaging of what you see. So if you believe that there's pressure and all of that kind of stuff, then you're going to feel it and you're going to act like you. But me, I don't feel no pressure. I'm fully prepared. I trusted my training.

I know that. fight night, I'm the better fighter and it will show. You're talking a lot about the mental side of this. Speak more to that. It feels like obviously you're locked in for every fight, but I don't know. This one just feels like to me it's the first time we're speaking one-on-one, but in all your interviews, you just feel locked into a different level this time around. Yeah, it's a chip on my shoulder.

A lot of people have been saying that I'm not the guy. I'm not as good as everybody say. I'm overrated. I heard a whole bunch of stuff. and now everybody got to stand on what they said. They got to see it comes July 12th. I am the best fighter in the sport of boxing name. I will show it.

Yeah, I don't know. I don't know anybody can call you overrated. We're talking about a three-weight world champ, Olympia. That's insane. But, you know, with that, you know, I guess in your mind, something to prove chip on your shoulder. You are sharing this card with a ton of big-name fighters, all looking to put their name out there

and get their opportunity to step up. What about your performance is going to stand out from everybody else on fight night? I think that I'm going to show. I think I'm the guy that everybody needs to see. I think that the fans been waiting for me to get into a fight with somebody that's on a high-scale level and somebody that's a high-level opponent. Someone that brings it to you as well, right? Someone that brings it to you because.

He's not scared. He's going to come in there and give it his off. And that's just going to create more opportunities for a build to add. We're talking. So what are you saying? Straight up, we're just going to say it's a knockout? It can be. It can be.

That's the thing that nobody will bet that. Nobody will bet no money on that. You're telling me now to bet my money on it. Is that what you're saying? But I am telling you, don't be surprised. Okay. I like it, and I like it. There's been a lot of talk recently,

and I wanted your thoughts on this mainly because it's just a big point of contention right now. There's no running rule. Have you seen some of the stuff going around about this? Yeah, I've seen some of it. It's disappointing to see. Tell me why. Talk to me. I mean, I just know guys like Muhammad Ali that, you know, that they're going to live through their entire careers and they believe they float like a butterfly and sting like a bee. Right.

I know that they're looking down on stuff like that and they're probably very disappointed or who's coming up with that kind of stuff. But movement is a part of boxing. For sure. Go back through the history books on the guys that use movement when it comes down in the boxing. Floyd and they're weather. Sometimes me.

So I think it's just disappointing to see. I can't come in that shit. I understand. And I think, too, there's a difference between the way, and everybody's out talking about who they want to point the finger at is who's the reason for stuff like that. I don't see the way you fight as being that kind of style at all. I see you as moving, but I see you setting traps.

I see you being able to create offense, off defense, and vice versa. That is the sport, right? That's the sweet science. Yes. I don't think I'm a move. You can move. I can move. Exactly.

I don't think you're a consistent, just circle or anything like that, but I think you have the ability to set things up and then drop the hammer. I think that you can stand in front. I mean, I just watch you stand right in front. front of Josh Badley and beat him up. I don't think that anybody is looking at you when they talk about that. I just always asked, because I've asked a couple of guys so far what they thought about it. People have different opinions on it, but it'll be interesting to see how that whole thing goes down. But speaking of this July 12th card, your one half of the main event, what do you see

on the other side from Williams-a-Peda? Is there anything, obviously you don't want to give away game plan stuff on your side, but what do you see out of him? when you see him at the press conference, when you see him at the face off, is there anything you can read off of him so far? He's exactly what I think he is. He's coming in shape. He's coming to give it his all.

You know that he's going to bring everything he got and he's been kind of waiting for this opportunity for his entire lifetime. But sometimes when you kind of anxious and you're ready to jump in, you're going to run into something that you don't like. And I think that's what, sometimes, I mean, I don't think he's very prepared for what's going to come back.

He's more that I'm going to just move around the ring. You know, like the fans kind of hype it up and say that I'm a runner. So they kind of think that, but I don't know, I'm just as much as he is. I love it, man. So you think he thinks you're going to be super defensive, not really engage with him, try to hit and move. and you're potentially, depending on, again,

it's a fight, you never know what happens, but you're prepared for whatever, essentially. We can't fight a guy like that is moving all around the ring the entire time because the people will end up losing. So I know that, so he knows that too. When you see your fight being one of the main events, there's another one as well, right?

We have Hamza Shiraz, Eger Berlang. I know you and Eger are good buddies. obviously both of you want to represent New York, New Jersey. What is that fight do you think look like? I think Eger probably will knock them out. Yeah? Hamza is coming up to 168.

Yeah, I think Eger got the punching power, so that's what I think. Got Egger by knockout. What do you think about the ring? 18 by 18 is what I heard. And then I've also just, by the way, I just saw this as happened like 20 minutes ago on Twitter. Edgar adding Turkey Al-A-Shake

saying maybe it's not 18 by 18. We'll just operate on it being an 18 by 18. Because that's what everybody's been saying. What do you think about that? I don't think that she matters. When I came up, I kind of came up in like a little-ass small ring where you barely can't even move. So you've got to learn how to fight right in a little circle.

So, no, I don't think that shit matters. Well, I do want to ask you one more thing. And this is on a question on one of the guys that also. works at the ring. Why'd you have to do my man cop like that, bro? Because he'd be hated. He's a big-ass hater. You got to start being a hater. You know, it's cool to like do your job. Right. No, like, I don't got no issue with that, but when you kind of like purposely go out there and try to attack somebody and

assassinate people's character, but when you see people are friendly, like, oh, Shakur, there is, Shakou. And I'm just not that kind of guy. I can't fake it. I can't be nobody that's like fake and just be cool with that shit like don't fuck with me and what is it just the way he's covered your career you just not you're not a big fan of why it's the way that he do things like um what i was watching i watched him the fans i want to say they posted something right i just give a little example sure sure they posted something they they said that uh ego was the main event the fans kind of criticized them for doing that and oh Oh, you're right. I remember this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember this.

Because you're a WBC lightweight champion of the world. How's it really work? I got you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And when cop kind of went up there, he kind of like defended it. But as he's defending it, he's talking shit about me. Oh, Shakur got booed and blah, blah, like, and then it's like, when I see you and I get on a plane next to you, the whole time you were up there like a fan. Wait, you were on the plane with him? I got my last fight when I fought in Saarty, he was right next to me on the plane. He was literally like both of us right next to each other. He used the whole time like, Shakur, this, and he's acting like a plan and shit. So it's like which one you want to be.

Like I can't think. I'm not a guy that's going to take fake with nobody. Right. No, I did not know that part. All right. Well, listen, I know you've had a long day of training. Let's do this really quick. Let's give, again, without.

giving game plan away. You walk into Louis Armstrong. By the way, before we get there, Louis Armstrong Stadium, I don't think I've ever seen a boxing match inside a tennis stadium. I know that's not going to affect you, but how cool is that for you to be able to do kind of one of the first things, especially in New York? I think that's amazing. I think making history being the first person to fight there, and now I've got to do my job and I've got to put the performance on there and make sure that I leave my staying. I leave my name on top of that stadium. and Shakur Stevenson was the first person to fight at that stadium, and the performance that he had was amazing.

That's what I want to hear for the next upcoming years. I like that. I like that. Now, I know you get this question a lot, and I'm sure you're tired of answering it, but you don't want to overlook William. I get that. But with all the things that are going on right now at 135,

potentially at 140, who knows. But there's a lot of big names out there. Who does Shakur Stevenson over in the next year, year and a half, look at down the line if there is a way to kind of envision that. Who do you see stepping in the ring with you? I ain't even going to say it because I feel like, you know, everybody know who I would play. I'm going to say there's a hundred times. I wanted to ask, but yeah, yeah. Biggest fight in the sport of boxing. So right now. Do you think it happens? It all depends on that person. That guy, he's the guy who makes it happen. Why don't, why don't, why don't, I know you said it a

bunch of times. Why don't you like saying his name? Because he had like a girl. Like if you say his name, he's like he thinks somebody's chasing that drum or something. So all that girl and shit, I'll try not to get into it. We'll leave it there. But tell me this. We get to July 12th. All the media obligations are done. You don't have to look at guys like me anymore and answer our dumb questions. You get to go out there and do what you do. You step in the ring and you look across from Williams of Peta. The bell rings. What happens? I'll pull out my belt and I beat the shit out of them. Just keep beating them all night until the referee jumps in or somebody jumps in to save me. All right.

I volunteer as tribute. I'll jump in and save. Appreciate you, Sikort. Thanks, man. I'll see you on Fight Week. Have a good rest of your camp. I know you're right here at the end of it. Obviously, big prayers to you and all the fighters.

I'm big on that. So hope you guys are safe. And I'll see you on Fight Week. Thanks for doing this, man. Appreciate you, man. All right. So we are back. Today I have some breaking news that I never thought I would be

announcing on this channel and even making a video about but here we are. I can't even begin to tell you how random this is and it just popped up on my Twitter so I'm just gonna go ahead and show you guys. As of about 30 minutes ago, there is a report out from the Department of Homeland Security that on July 2nd, ICE arrested Mexican boxer and criminal illegal alien Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. He is now being processed for expedited removal from the the United States. This Sinolaa cartel affiliate has an active arrest warrant in Mexico for his involvement in organized crime and trafficking firearms, ammunitions, and explosives. What the

hell is going on? I don't know. We're going to get into it. The breakdown, let's go. So, like you guys know, Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. just had a boxing match this Saturday against Jake Paul in the middle of Orange County, Anaheim, California at the Honda Center. He lost that fight. He was disappointingly average in that fight. He once again showed that in big fights, he tends to just kind of hang out and not really do much. I mean, again, it was a normal Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. performance. And Jake wins. Now Jake's ranked in the top 15 at Cruzeaway, which I think is absolutely ridiculous. Jake is not a top 15 cruiserweight by any metric of actual ranking. That's not the point of the video today. The point of the video is to figure out how in the world

Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. has been linked with the Sinaloa cartel and is now being expedited from removal from the United States. This is insane. Okay, let's take a look at the actual department. I thought this was fake. I'm not going to lie to you guys.

I thought this was like a fake Twitter because you never know what's real and what isn't. Here is the actual Department of Homeland Security's Twitter. And there he is. And that mugshot is insane. So we go to the website. And once again, we have this, this headline, DHS, announces ICE arrest of Mexican boxer

Sinolaa Cartel affiliate. And the reason I keep saying Sinolaa Cartel, that's a pretty big deal. You don't want to know why? Because it's El Chapo's cartel, son. Probably the most dangerous in the history of Mexico. Now again, this man just had a boxing match on Saturday. So this is, you know, obviously crazy. We all know that Chavez Jr.'s had his history

with running in with the law and drugs and other things that we're going to get into. But I did not expect this at all. Then again, I didn't really know how deep this goes. So this is from Washington. The Department of Homeland Security announced immigration and customs enforcement, detained prominent Mexican boxer and criminal illegal alien, Julio Caesar Chavez Jr.

and is processing him for expedited removal from the United States. Chavez is a Mexican citizen who has an active arrest warrant in Mexico for his involvement in organized crime and trafficking firearms, ammunition, and explosives. That is crazy. We're talking about the son of the greatest Mexican boxer of all time. Julio Cesar Chavez, Sr., being involved in organized trafficking of ammunition, firearms, and explosives. What?

In a country where Chavez name is already pretty much untouchable from even the car. Like anybody, like Chavez is such a legend, no one gets around him. Why would you involve yourself with something like this? I don't know. But hold on to that organized crime because, well, matter of fact, we'll just look at it now. I didn't realize, because I did a 17-hour live stream the other day, I didn't realize that I actually knew this information already. This is me and my girlfriend, Chloe, watching the walkout of Chavez Jr. on Saturday and hearing what I think he was Todd Grisham and his own announced team said about him as he's walking out. Listen.

Damn. Chavez? Yeah, Todd just... Jesus. He just ran down Chavez. He's out his dirty laundry, why don't you? Big time. That man said he last year got arrested on a weapons charge.

I didn't even know that. So again, I knew that Chavez was having issues with the law in the past and had his drug issues. I didn't know he just got arrested on a weapons charge the year before. And I definitely didn't know that he was in some way linked to the Sinaloa cartel. But the zone announced it on the broadcast. I don't know if that's something like it inverted. triggered the Department of Homeland Security to be like, oh, he's in the country. We need to go get him.

Or just the fight itself being in America was like part of that. But I'm pretty sure Chavez was already living in America. I don't know. But this is just insane to think that this boxing match potentially was a massive part of the reason he has now been, you know, detained and is going to be removed from the United States on, you know, active weapons charges. So we keep reading. In August 2023, he entered the country legally with a B2 tourist visa that was valid until February 24.

Chavez is also believed to be an affiliate of the Sinaloa cartel, a designated foreign terrorist organization. ICE arrested Chavez in Studio City, California on July 2nd. So yeah, Chavez, I guess, is living in L.A. So they arrest him, and it says on April 2nd, 2024, Chavez filed application

for lawful permanent resident status. Chavez application was based on his marriage to a U.S. citizen who was connected to the Sinaloa cartel through a prior relationship with the now deceased son of the infamous cartel leader, Joaquin El Chapo Guzman. Chavez Jr. is married to the former wife of El Chapo's son. Oh, no, bro.

Oh, God, dude. Again, I just keep thinking maybe they made a mistake. Maybe Chavez is being mistaken for somebody else, or it's not that. I don't know how serious this is, but he has a weapons charge, and he's married. Not to say this is connected, but the lady is a U.S. citizen, so she's also the former wife

of the son of the most famous cartel leader ever, potentially, in the world. I did not know any of this leading into this right now, this moment. This is crazy. On December 17th, a U.S. citizenship and immigration services made a referral to ICE that Chavez is an egregious public safety threat. However, in a DHS law enforcement system

under Biden administration, indicated Chavez was not an immigration enforcement. priority. Then on January 4th, 2025, the Biden administration allowed Chavez to reenter the country and paroled him into the country at the San Yistro Port of Entry. Following multiple fraudulent statements on his application to become a lawful permanent resident, he was determined to be in the country illegally and removable on June 27th, 2025. This is a day before his fight. So hold on. They were tracking Chavez Jr. I guess after multiple fraudulent statements on an application for permanent lawful residency. And then the day before he's going to fight Jake Paul, I guess they determine he's here

illegally. Imagine if they found him that day or the day he was going to fight how insane this would have been. Like he's wrapping up getting ready and here comes ice, ice, ice baby freaking walks in and snatches Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. and dips. That would have been insane. Now again, they get to him on July 2nd, which was yesterday at the time of recording this. So he's now been removed, but this is all, I mean, it happened super quick. This Sinolaa cartel affiliate with an active arrest warrant for trafficking

guns, ammunition, and explosives was arrested by ICE. Again, I need to know where this charge is because this is insane. How is he he's trafficking in the country illegal guns, ammunition and explosives? Does that mean like he brought them across the border

or he has illegal weaponry that they assume is not made in the United States or they found out is not made here. What, like, how did he get charged with that? It is shocking the previous administration flagged this criminal alien as a public safety threat, but chose not to prioritize his removal and let him leave and come back into the country. Okay, so they're saying that the Biden administration said he was a public safety threat, then allowed him to leave and come back while having that, uh, information or having that,

you know, categorization about him. Public safety threat. That's crazy. Under President Trump, no one is above the law, including world famous athletes. Our message to any cartel affiliates in the USA is clear. We will find you and you will face consequences. The days of unchecked cartel violence are over.

Yeah, I mean, I wonder how much of this too is like a massive name being attached in some way to the cartel. Is this like more of the DHS sending a message? Because Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. Is the son of a world famous boxer. He did just fight in front of how many thousands of people watch. in the Honda Center in California and you know probably 100,000s millions worldwide. Who knows? But still he can be caught which I guess is again more of a message to say hey

You may not be this world famous athlete, but if you have any affiliations to any cartel We're gonna catch you. Okay, so here's the rap sheet they say below January 22nd 2012 California Highway Patrol arrested Chavez and charged him with a DUI Alcohol and drugs and driving without a license She served 13 days in jail 36 months probation on January 14th 23, district judge issued an arrest warrant for Chavez for the offense of organized crime for the purpose of committing crimes of weapons trafficking and manufacturing crimes in the modality of those who participate in clandestinely bringing weapons, ammunition, cartridges,

explosives into the country and those who manufacture weapons, ammunition, cartridges, and explosive without the corresponding permit. So if this is to believe, leave Chavez was sneaking weapons over the border. This is what I'm trying to gather my brain around. They're saying that he was participating in bringing weapons, ammunition, cartridges, and explosives into the country or manufacturing weapons, ammunition, and cartridges, and explosives without corresponding permits. So either he was bringing them in or manufacturing them here, or maybe both or participating in such with the purpose of, this is nuts. Chavez Jr. is a weapons runner for the cartel. This is what I'm reading. I don't know if that's

true. I don't know what the extent of it is, but I am reading that he is a weapons runner for the Senaloa cartel. I'm not laughing at him. I'm laughing at the unbelievability of what I'm reading. Not because it's, you know, it's so far-fetched, but just because I'm learning it all at once here. On January 7th, 2024, the Los Angeles Police Department arrested Chavez and charged him with a legal possession of any assault weapon and manufacture or import short-barreled rifle. The court convicted Chavez of these charges. So what, he had a sawed-off shotgun? All right folks, well more breaking news on this story. I kind of thought I'd covered everything, but we now have footage of Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. being arrested or detained or whatever the verbiage is by ice. It just hit the web. So let's take a look at this.

Again, this is in Studio City, Los Angeles, California. Oh my God. He has an MVP hat on. Oh, no, most valuable. Jeez You do I want my search If you want to Obviously they're Obviously they're searching him Obviously they're searching him

And remember they would You know They have to search him If they're arresting him too right But you know His previous charges Have been weapon charges so you just want to be careful, obviously.

But again, this whole thing is insane, man. Just days ago, fighting in the main event in the Honda Center. Now being arrested by agents of ICE and soon to be deported back to Mexico facing weapons charges from Mexico, having a gun charge here in the United States, possessing an illegal firearm, a ghost gun, I guess they're calling it. All of this happening again as I'm speaking to you guys.

So the news keeps pouring in, but I had to interject and show you guys, we do now have the video of Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. being arrested by ICE. This is real. This is happening and it's absolutely insane. Now let's get back into the video for more detail on what's going on. All right. So this was a report on January 9th, 2024. Because I've seen all the reports today happening, but this one was from way back in 2024.

Chavez Jr. arrested for ghost gun in L.A. illegal weapons possession. Chavez Jr. was arrested for illegal possession of assault rifle this weekend in Los Angeles. After cops were called to the scene by a concerned fan who believed the boxer may be a danger to himself or others. Okay, he was taken into custody by LAPD around 1.30 after Chavez Jr. permitted responding officers to enter his home where they located the illegal rifle. Law enforcement sources told us the weapon was an untraceable ghost gun. Travis was ultimately transported to the Valley Jail in Van Ice. All right, so let's, again, I'm not, I'm not familiar.

Ghost gun. So this is what a ghost gun is. Ghost guns are unserialized, therefore untraceable firearms that are put together by components purchased either as a kit or separate pieces. These firearms fully functioning guns that are as lethal as fully finished, serialized firearms. These parts and kits have long been intentionally marked as unregulated and untraceable to appeal to those who see. seek to use them in crime.

So essentially, Chavez Jr. was arrested in January 2024 with a ghost gun, an un serialized gun that was apparently a short barrel rifle. You have to think potentially, I don't know, we talk in AR-15s here, we talk in something even more lethal, like a fully automatic, who knows. But then before that, you have January 14, 2023, a district judge issued an arrest warrant for Chavez for the offense of organized crime for the purpose of committing crimes of weapons trafficking, manufacturing crimes, and the modality of those who participate, bringing weapons, ammunition, cartridges, and explosives into the country.

So a year prior, they issued an arrest warrant for him, I guess, on suspicion of trafficking firearms, and then they find one of them a year later in his possession. This is nuts. I mean, the news is breaking as I'm recording, so I don't know how much more I'm going to get details on. But this is a rough weekend for Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. And then we have the Ring Magazine reporting right here. Listen, this is not just, you know, Jake Paul fighting at other.

He fought an organized crime member. Apparently, allegedly. I don't know again how close the affiliation is from Chavez Jr. to the actual Sinaloa cartel, which again, if you don't know, one of the most famous, if not the most famous cartel in the history of Mexico. It's like overnight we just got a backstory of Chavez Jr. I had no idea about it. How long has Chavez been, again, allegedly a weapons runner for a foreign terrorist organization? And what all does this entail? How deep does this story actually go? Because even in these, This article kind of lists out everything that he's been, you know, either charged for or arrest warrant's been made for or detained for, whatever.

This can't tell the whole story because this has been going on apparently for the last two years. Close to three now. This, I feel like this is just scratching the surface. There's got to be more here. But regardless, it seems like Chavez Jr. is going to be removed from the country. And any chance of him becoming a lawful permanent resident probably has gone out the window. Any chance of him boxing here in America probably goes out the window from now on. And yeah, this is just, it's crazy.

I don't know how serious this thing's going to be, but it sounds pretty serious. Sounds like Julio Sager Chavez Jr. might have had the worst 10-day stretch of luck and all the consequences of his actions, I guess, coming to fruition at once. I don't really know. But that's probably one of the worst runs I've ever seen for 10 days in the high-level sports world, maybe ever. That's tough.

And it's kind of a sad story, too, because we've always, looked at Chavez Jr. as a guy that, you know, maybe was a bit of a disappointment of a fighter because of the ability his dad had and because the ability junior had. And just never panned out to be what talent level he should have been in most people's eyes. But even when you have all the advantages, even when you have the upbringing, even when you have all the gifts in life to live a life that's not one of struggle or, you know, having to do things in the criminal world because you have an upbringing that allows you to be away from it, you still get stories like this where Chavez Jr. has affiliated himself,

whether loosely or very tightly, one of the most prolific cartels in the history of mankind in the Sinaloa cartel. And then the weapons charge and everything else. It's a sad story, man. We'll see what happens with this story going forward and how much of it continues to unravel. But once again, a parent affiliate of the Sinaloa cartel with an active criminal arrest warrant,

Julio Cesar Chavez Jr., Not just son of a legend and son of the greatest Mexican boxer ever, but apparently affiliate of the Sinaloa cartel and someone with an active criminal arrest warrant, Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. has been removed from the country by the Department of Homeland Security. What happens next for him? I mean, I think he's probably not going to be boxing anytime soon,

but I don't have those answers. So I guess we'll find out. All right, so we are back on the way concept presented by the ring, and today I have one of the weirdest yet most awesome things things potentially that I could talk about on this channel. We live in such an odd timeline in 2025. We're on one hand, we are on the 4th of July watching Joey Chestnut stuff, 70 and a half hot dogs down his gullet, whilst there is chaos all across the world and politically here in America, it's turmoil. It feels like every day something that's either great for your side of the political

aisle comes out or terrible and you want to just pull your hair out in the same sentence where foreign affairs are all over the place. And it seems like at any moment, World War III could potentially happen. And yet today, or I guess yesterday, we got the announcement that Donald Trump, the president of the United States, would like to hold a America's 250th birthday celebration next year, 26th on the 4th of July, because it will be the 250th anniversary of Independence Day here in America. He would like to hold a UFC event on the front lawn of, the White House. And just as that was announced, two of the UFC's biggest names that have most

recently either retired in the case of John Jones, literally two weeks ago, or been MIA, and I'm not talking about Miami, at least this time, for one, Connor McGregor piped up and said, yes, please, I would love to be a part of that, while Dana White seemingly confirmed that he wants to do it as well. This really may be happening, and it may have just brought John John Jones back to the sport less than two weeks after he retired and brought Connor McGregor back to the Octagon for the first time in three years. What do I mean the breakdown? Let's go. So yeah, I'm just going to start with the video that started this whole thing. Here's Donald Trump talking about celebrating the United States' 250th anniversary with the UFC event.

I even think we're going to have a UFC fight. Does anybody watch UFC the Great Day in a world? We're going to have a UFC fight. We're going to have a UFC fight. I think of this on the grounds of the White House. We have a lot of land there. We're going to build a little. We're not.

Dana's going to do it. Daniel is great. One of a kind. We're going to have a UFC fight. Championship fight. Full fight. Like 20,000 people. And we're going to do that as part of 250 also.

Here's the thing. I don't care what side of the political aisle you're on. To me, this is pretty awesome. Now again, I'm not one to get super political here. And I saw people talking about, oh, this is political. And Dana White says he's, not political. I don't even look at this as a political issue. I look at this as the president of the United States using a sport that he likes to showcase how great America is in 2025, well,

2026 when it'll happen and politically motivated or not. It's something I think goes well with the idea of what America is, a place that is in one hand so beautiful and unique and in the other completely chaotic and almost cartoon-like in a way. And again, I love. We can have a fight on the grounds of the White House in front of 25,000 people. This is awesome to me. And it seems like it's not just, you know, cannon fodder here from Donald Trump because Dana White is reposting it. Dana White reposting it on his Instagram. The UFC retweeting it on their Twitter. This doesn't seem like just a ha ha, great funny moment there, Trump. We're going to move on and act like you didn't say that. It seems like, oh, hey, well, maybe this could potentially be a real thing. And as soon as that

became a real thing, and we're going to focus mainly on John Jones in this video. But it does need to be said that Connor McGregor has been the most vocal fighter about potentially being on this card as he tweeted half a 4th of July USA excited President Trump announcing a UFC fight event at the White House I would love to be honored count me in I would be honored Excuse me count me in and then there's a picture of him and Donald look at He just he just looks like he is Dennis the menace in real form man Connor just always looks like he's up to some weird sadistic shit and then someone asked to Grock will Connor be at the White House Conner's express strong interest in fighting at the White House and then Connor quote tweets it

with a direct message two of which to Dana White and then Dana responds, I love it. So again, you can see Connor, the only place where disputes truly get settled the White House where Connor is yet again goading Michael Chandler into a fight and I feel like we should put the Titanic meme up because it's been 40 years, it feels like

since Connor and Michael Chandler decided they were going to fight each other. I'm pretty sure this is supposed to be AI Trump in the background and both of them facing off on the grounds of the White House. Jesus. And then we have Connor tweeting once again, Fourth of July next year is a Saturday regarding President Trump's UFC White House event. I will be reigning president of Ireland just under one year when I step out on the lawns of the White House to throw down. Epic proportions or as I like to call it Tuesday at the office, vote McGregor. Uh, I highly doubt that Connor McGregor is going to be the next president of Ireland, but I have

no idea about politics over there, just as much as I don't really know about politics here. Regardless, Connor is fired up. I have not seen Connor this fired up about a fight since Dustin Portier two and three. Honestly, he wasn't even this fired up about fighting Michael Chandler while he was coaching against him on the ultimate fighter. Like, this has gotten Conner's attention and you can see clearly when he's invested versus when he isn't. Now, would I like for Connor McGregor to main event, a UFC White House event? Sure, why not? That's Awesome. It would be historic for the UFC. It'd be awesome for the sport of MMA. Again, people are going to cry on Twitter about it being political. I don't really give a...

It's an awesome event in a wacky world that already is MMA. I mean, let's be honest, this sport is not some buttoned-up bureaucratic white-collar sport. And that was kind of the reason people didn't like boxing for the longest time is because it felt too rigid and the high-class kind of bourgeois nature of the sport turned people off. MMA's never done that. It's a fighter's sport. It's a fan favorite. sport. It's a wacky world they live in. So I think this would be an awesome event and Connor clearly is fired up. But the bigger story here is John Jones because why we'll see Connor tweet about wanting to fight here and the pictures of Michael Chandler and all that. On the other side,

we have John Jones who piped up about this fight card and wanting to be a part of it where he said fighting at the White House with the eyeball emojis. And then he also tweeted this is from ESPN MMA. John Jones posted this on his social media less than two weeks after announcing his retirement for MMA. John said just re-entered the testing pool. That lasted for about two weeks, figured we keep everyone's options open. Now again, it's one thing if you're Connor McGregor to tweet about wanting to fight at this as of right now potential UFC White House event July 4th, 2026. But it's another thing if you're John Jones to enter the testing pool two weeks or less than two weeks after you've retired and given up your heavyweight championship belt to potentially fight at this event

or maybe before that. And I'm not saying that either a guy is going to fight in this event or at all. This could just be, hey, I'm bored on social media on the 4th of July. In John's case, probably because no one wants to hang out with him because when they get too drunk, he acts like a complete psycho and endangers people. And for Connor's case, they also, well, yeah, that's probably for both guys, to be honest. But if John really is re-entering the testing pool, this opens up the idea of potential superfights for John Jones.

because the one thing that I think everyone had asked about John Jones and from John Jones when he was stalling the heavyweight division and holding onto the belt was that John dropped the belt if he wanted to do super fights and have Tom Aspinall become your undisputed heavyweight champion. And for the longest time, that's what drove people away from the John Jones show, at least one of the things. On top of the many other things we've talked about in John's past,

his allegations, the things he actually did, the PED. These all of. Now you don't have that obstacle. And I wonder, and I want to ask you guys, would you be more interested in watching a John Jones fight now that he's not holding up the heavyweight division? Would you be more interested in a potential super fight for John Jones if he's not holding up the division? Could it be Tom Aspinall? Sure. Let's say Tom Aspinall goes and beats Surreal God, who's most likely going to be next for him. And then John is there waiting for the actual undisputed champion in Tom Aspinall. Maybe that's the case. Or maybe John wants a super fight with an

incoming heavyweight Alex Pereira, Poetan. Not saying that's even plausible right now because it seems like Pereira wants to have his rematch versus Magabed on Kalaya. The point is, if that fight is there, a year from now in 2026, after Poetan does his business at light heavyweight, would you be interested in that fight?

Because I certainly would. I think it's an interesting fight for John Jones. And one that if he doesn't want to fight, Tom Aspinall keeps him away from doing that. Whilst also allowing us to keep the heavyweight division moving, and Poetton John is a lot of, a one-off super fight. Let's say a year from now, Dana White finds a way to make peace with Francis and Gano. I think he only has one fight left on his PFL Dale, maybe two, I don't

really know. Regardless, let's see if that potentially could happen because Francis walking right back into the heavyweight division, sure, him versus Tom Aspinall would be massive as the fight that probably most people would want. Francis never lost his bell officially. Tom, if he's still the champion at that point, which I assume he will be. That would be a fight to make, but also potentially a super fight there for John Jones as well. What I'm trying to say is this opens up options for John Jones. If he's truly not having any interest in fighting Tom Aspinall, that would be disappointing for sure.

And honestly, the most interesting fight that you can make for John Jones right now is the one that's been avoided like the plague, but now does have a bit of a different dynamic. Should Tom Aspinall go and get two or three more wins at heavyweight the rest of this year in the first part of next year? All of a sudden, Tom Aspinall becomes not only, a viable heavyweight champion, but one that is kind of the big draw for John Jones. The one thing that John has said Tom isn't. He's here today, gone tomorrow. He's not a big draw.

He's not going to be remembered if Tom gets a couple of those wins. All of a sudden, he has a lot of those attributes that John would be looking for in a heavyweight fight. The number goes up. It's at a historic event. Maybe that's the final straw that pulls John Jones into a Tom Aspinall fight. Regardless, I love that fight. I love that idea. And I think it's more honestly right now more of a reality for john to fight than even connor mcgregor as much as he's saying i want to do it i want to do it connor's talking about also running for office in ireland do you really think if he's truly honest and serious about that that connor mcgregor can both balance being a ufc fighter and trying to run for political office in ireland the answer is no because right now

connor mcgregor can't even balance on his yacht while the waves come in while also being a part owner of bkfc and then seriously trying to fight. None of these things are working as it is. If Connor's actually trying to run for political office, it's going to not work even more. Like, if this is the only thing driving Connor's passion for fighting, sure, okay, like, I'm down if you want to do that as the made event. But I'm throwing more cold water on that

and I have to do after a dream I've had about the Chloe concept. The point is, if I'm going to pick between John and Connor on this, I'll call it, fictitious White House event that Donald Trump is potentially creating, I think John's more likely to fight. I'll be honest with you. He doesn't have the money Connor has. Doesn't have the opportunities outside of fighting that Connor has.

And quite frankly, John's a better fighter, even now, at his age, than Connor was. At a division that if he comes back, there's one real threat to him in Tom Aspinall. And if he's able to do that, John goes down. If he isn't already the greatest ever, he will go down as the greatest fighter to have ever lived. So as much as everybody is going to say, please, John, stay retired, stay retired. I'm going to go the opposite way here and say, nah, I want to see it. I can't lie. I want to see this event. Give a shit how many people cry about it being political and all this other stuff. It's cool to me. It's a pretty sick way to celebrate America. And even if it is political,

if you're telling me that that's what it takes is President Trump to say, hey, we're going to do an event on the grounds of the White House to get two of the biggest names in MMA to come back and actually fight? I'm sold. And as much as you guys are probably going to complain about me saying that, you will watch it to and you're lying to yourself. if you're going to sit there and say you won't. Bull shit. So before you get on your high horse and talk about how this isn't needed or we don't want John or we don't want Connor or it's all political and it's this and that,

y'all are the same people that are complaining that the UFC is watered down, they don't do enough unique stuff that they aren't trying to innovate and that they've lost their fastball. You cannot sit there with a straight face and tell me that if the UFC puts on an event at the White House for $25,000 on the front of the front of,

front lawn and get either Connor McGregor or John Jones, potentially in some wacky world, both of them on the card, lace it up with American fighters, championship bouts throughout, and put on one of the most unique cards that's ever been made that you wouldn't watch. Or that it wouldn't pump you up just a little bit. Because that is something the sport is lacking. Not every event needing to be at the White House, but just something unique and fresh. And a little wacky, yeah, I'll say it. I think if the right fights can be made, Connor and Michael Chandler still is a friend.

fight that to me makes sense. John versus potentially really any super fight to me makes sense. Sure, okay, Tom Aspinall should be the one. But if it isn't that, we're talking about a year from now, maybe the UFC can find a way to get Francis and Ganu back in, or let's see what happens with Poetan at Light Heavyweight. Either way, I think this is sick. And if this was the final straw to get John to come out of retirement or to rethink retirement and to get Connor McGregor some passion back into the sport, then you have the answer for what's lacking in MMA. right now. From the fan perspective, from the company perspective, and from the fighter perspective. And no, to me at least, it's not the love for Donald Trump and the Trump Glace Fest or whatever

it is that you guys are going to complain about in the comments. It is something unique that fighters have never done, that they never have imagined that makes them go, you know what, I don't want to miss being on that card. You know what? I don't want to miss being a part of history. That, ladies and gentlemen, is what will bring your big stars back. And hopefully, in front of the eyes of the nation of the United States, obviously, and hopefully the rest of the world can create new stars for you. But again, everything's hypothetical. I don't know if this is even going to happen.

I'm just giving you my thoughts on the news as it comes out. Is this Donald Trump UFC White House event plausible? Yeah, sure. Is it possible? Maybe. Will it happen? And is John Jones really unretired? Is he really coming back to the sport?

And is Connor McGregor actually going to fight on this plausible, possible card? whilst being the president of Ireland. I know it sounds wacky. And quite frankly, I'm not sure I believe any of it. But I don't have those answers. So one year from today in the good old US of A on the grounds of the White House, it's possible that we have an event like no other.

What happens then? Who headlines? Who is on this card? I don't have those answers. So I guess we'll find out. All right, so we're back. The Wake Onset presented by the ring. And today, Tyson Fury is back in the sport of boxing.

and apparently he wants to fight Alexander Usik, and he's not the only one that wants that. In fact, the man himself, H.E. Turkey Alice Sheikh, is hinting that he potentially wants that, and I got a different idea. What do I mean? The breakdown, let's go. As of this was July 2nd. A couple days ago, by the way, happy 4th of July, to all my Americans out there, because I do think this is the greatest country on earth, and yeah, happy birthday America. But two days ago, this report came out from the Ring magazine says Tyson Fury is set to come out of retirement and return to boxing in 2026. Turk Geleshake has confirmed.

Before we go into what Turkey said, is anybody surprised by this? The answer is no. Everybody knows that Tyson Fury probably wasn't retired when he did. And that he's done this before, retired for a bit, come out of retirement, made people think he was done with the sport, then blatantly tells people that he can't beat him with the sport, that he's addicted to boxing, that he trains every day, that he's sparring three times a week without fighting.

This guy loves this sport. He's still relatively young and he's in the heavy, weight division where careers last longer than most sitcoms on american television yes i'm looking at you gray's anatomy it's time to hang it the fuck up but the point is tyson fury is back and according to h e and as we'll see in a second according to tyson fury he wants the usick trilogy and it's not just tyson that wants the usick trilogy it's turk yellow shake like he said quote i talked with him and i have his word to have him in reod season in twenty 26 we have a rabbit to hunt and for those that know tyson fury has referred to under Usick as the rabbit. And funny enough, Usick has kind of embraced the rabbit with the rabbit's

foot and the whole thing kind of embracing Tyson Fury trying to make fun of him, but he kind of flipped it on him and also flipped two fights on Tyson Fury going 2 and O against the Gypsy King. So I don't know if there's much of a need for a third fight other than, you know, the potential eyeballs that are going to be on it. But I will counter you with a fight that I think is even more popular. I think a fight that may even be being set up by his excellent. Z. Turkey-Elas shake, but I don't know any of this. I just think instead of Tyson Fury going and getting the third fight with Alexander Usik, barring a win from Alexander Usik versus Daniel Du Bois on July 19th, why not do Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua? This fight makes all the sense in the world. Both of them

have losses, two losses to Alexander Usik. Both of them have faced points in their careers now where it's a bit of a turning point, right? If Tyson goes into the Usik fight and loses a third, Third time does his drawing power diminish. Anthony Joshua just lost to Daniel Dubois and took a long time off the sport. Tyson Fure and Anthony Joshua was the one fight that got away. It was the one fight we never got. For years and years we talked about this thing,

and it just makes all the sense in the world to do it right now. And again, this is just conspiracy theory. Wade here, you might as well put the tinfoil hat on me, but I feel like Turkey Alashake is being a little too on the nose with saying we have a rabbit to hunt. Because again, think about it this way. Yes, he's talking about 2026, and that's far and away enough time for if Ussick does beat Dubois, which, you know, we'll see.

Du Bois is on a hot streak right now. Maybe he can switch things up. I don't think that was a low blow he hit him within the first fight regardless. That would be far and away enough time, almost a year plus to do the fight in Riyadh season. But what if that isn't the fight they're playing? What if they actually are trying to get Anthony, Joshua, and Tyson Fury together? Because it makes all the sense in the world. And because neither of the guys have a fight lined up, I would argue that,

that Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua would do more in pay-per-view, more in revenue, more eyeballs, and in some ways be more important for both fighters right now, and even Tyson Fury challenging for the heavyweight belt for the third time. And you can give me the argument that Tyson Fury was close to winning the first fight and did well in the second fight as well, and I'm not going to disagree with you. It was a very close fight in the first,

and in the first part of the second fight, the first half of the fight, I thought it was a close fight as well before Usik in both fights put his foot on the pedal and eventually ran away with it, like our rabbit. And obviously, we can remember Tyson Fury did not think he lost the second fight. Do you think that's got to make it too funny? I thought he was dead, so I'm awful he was going to get it from one. I swear to God, I thought I won't at least three rounds.

That was him talking to his former trainer, Ben Davidson. I did not think Tyson Fury was as close in the second fight as he was in the first. Even after getting rocked in the first fight, I still thought he was closer in that one. And so I guess in my mind, just my opinion, I don't know what would be different this time around. Tyson seems to think that he was robbed in the second fight and that if he did it in England, it would be different. I don't know if that's the case. And even if it is the case, Turkey Alashake is saying that I have his word to have him in Riyadh season in 2026. Now, again, I could just be misreading that as a Riyadh season branded event taking place in England.

But that seems to me like Turkey Alashik wants the fight back in Saudi Arabia. So I don't know what would be different the third time around. other than the fact that Tyson may train a little differently, and it may be tough to beat a guy three times. Point is, I just, I don't know, doesn't seem like the fight that makes the most sense. And Turkey Alashik is known so far for making the fights we want to see within his power, right?

He has made the Bivol better Biev 1 and 2. He has made Tyson Fury Ussing. He's made big fight after big fight. So I just don't know if this is a little bit of misdirection from Turkey, or maybe it is just right on the nose. but regardless, I think the fight that I would want to see more, to be honest, is Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua. But again, you also have to give Tyson a reason to come out of retirement. Whether people want to see the third fight or not, Tyson surely wants to have a third shot at the belt, I would think.

I think it probably means more to him than fighting Anthony Joshua for no belt. But this is what Tyson Fury had to say regarding his comeback and why he wants to come back to boxing. I'm happy. I've won everything I've had to do. Listen, my last fight was a clear fucking victory for the Gypsy King. Incorrect. I don't know where he comes up with this idea. Listen, you can say this is a close fight. You can say that Tyson Fury fought well up until the fifth round,

maybe into the sixth and seventh, but as we got into the seven through 12 rounds, this was completely one-sided to Alexander Usik. And quite frankly, if you look back on the first, fight and I know copy box doesn't tell the entirety of the story but if you just look back at punches thrown versus punches landed in this fight. Fury threw more landed less. Usik threw less landed more and he threw less while landing more round by round and you can see his punch stats be deadly accurate from rounds pretty much six on. Seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve. He's throwing fifty percent

damn near in eight through twelve. And it's not just jabs or light punches. Over half of his punches. punches were power punches, landed, flush. So I just, I don't see where Fury gets this idea that he clearly won the second fight. He was clearly, in my mind, outboxed in the second fight, more so than even in the first. You could have the argument for the first fight potentially going to Fury. And that would be more believable than him winning the second fight. So I don't know where he's deluded himself into thinking this was robbed from him, but point blank, period. He lost the second fight.

Anyone in boxing could see that, a complete load of dog shit, yeah? Political, whatever you want to call it, and who sex very experienced fight. By the way, we can't forget that in the ring, Tyson Fury said the reason, or at least paraphrased to say, the reason that Usik won the second fight was because there was a war going on in the Ukraine and they wanted to give him the win. That's the level of delusion we're talking about with Tyson Fury right now. Again, he's coming off for two fights from me, which is debatable whether he won him or not, which he didn't win him, but he got the decision, which is all that matters. If I was going to come back, I'd come back for Usak. But I want a fair result in England.

He'd be the only fighter that you've come back for. That would be the one-on, immediately. That'd be the most fight that I want next. I only want a fucking fair fight. I don't want any favors. I want a fair fight and a fair result, which I believe, and I know I didn't. How did you start that second fight?

I fucking thought I won it by five rounds. I've watched it. Ha ha ha ha ha ha. Tyson Fury thinks he won the second fight by five rounds? Which rounds? Genuinely, like, how you even argue that he won? won it by five rounds. There's no logical argument for that. I mean, again, it's Tyson Fury.

He's talking out of his ass, but the other thing, too, is like, Turkey-A-Shake is clearly saying he wants Tyson to go rabbit hunting. He is saying, we are going rabbit hunting, is in Turkey and Tyson. And let's not forget, Turkey has been on the side of Tyson Fury when it comes to most of the fights. Like, he actively is like Tyson is going to beat Francis and Ganu. I'm sorry. Tyson, going to beat Usik. I'm sorry. And Tyson's sitting here. talking about political this political that has no effect on him winning or losing clearly if turkey wanted him to beat usik and usick beat him twice that has nothing to do with any political anything i don't know what he's talking about there but yeah uh he did not win the second fight at all and let alone

by five rounds literally 250 times and each way i never 250 times he rewatched it 250 times bullshit ever see it there's a way for him to win but i know you can they can do what they want. If they say it's fucking Tuesday, it's Tuesday. I don't make excuses. I don't make excuses. Except the reason that Ussick won is because there was a war going on in Ukraine. Never forget it.

So anyway, here is more of Tyson talking about why he would want to fight Usoc right now. Usec, because I want to be revenge in England. That's all I want. I want a fair show. And I don't believe I've got a fair show because that's two times. So I don't know what I'm going to have to do because I can't be because I can't be because to the decision. Yeah, that's the one I want.

If I don't get that, then it'd be Joshua the biggest bridge fight that will ever happen. And it would break. Yes, it would. Call records. And it would sell out $100,000 in an hour. Yep.

And it's a fight that I think can happen for sure if I decide to come back and the deal's right. If I did come back, hypothetically speaking, if it. That's the one, man. That is the one. And he says the reason why that's the one.

Obviously, personally to Tyson, it means more. to grab the belts off Usik. It means more to write the two losses, the only two losses of his career. It means more for that. And I get it. But 100,000 people, the fight, the fans, and especially the UK fans. Because let's be honest right now, boxing is white hot in the UK.

It is more popular. It has got bigger stars right now in the UK than the U.S. For the most part. Outside of a couple names I can run through and you guys would argue in the comments. But the point is, he's right. They would sell out. Wimley. This would be one of, if not the biggest fight in British boxing history. And it just makes all the sense in the world. Again, personally, I get it. For Tyson, it's a second option,

but for the fans, for the sports, for the right matchups and where both guys are in their careers, this is the best matchup. This is the only matchup that makes sense for both guys right now, coming off the losses they've come off of, the guys that beat them fighting for the belt. And again, I know this is talking about a year from now, but still, for every reason he listed there, and he's right, this fight needs to happen. It would be more of a travesty to the sport if we don't get Tyson and AJ rather than us getting the trilogy between Tyson and Usik. By far, point blank, period. And that should be the only reason. That's the only argument that I should have to make as to why that fight should happen. Because if we don't get it,

it will be one of the greatest fights we never got. If we don't get Tyson, Fury, and Usik for the third time, does it really matter? And I think that's probably all I need to say about this. They're talking about Riyadh season 2026. It makes all the sense in the world to do it at Wembley if they could book it. 100,000 people would definitely sell out, whatever the number is at Wembley, 90,000. I've heard before 100,000. But this one's a grudge match. It doesn't even have to be for the best British boxer ever because that's not the case.

I think that title goes to Lennox Lewis. But for the modern era, this is one of those fights that if we don't get, it will be a damn shame. And it won't have that punctuation mark on either guy's career that it really should have, right? Either guy retiring before we get that would be a disappointment, I think. And even to them, to some degree, right? They've all made millions of dollars. They all have all the money in the world. But if they still have that fire about fighting,

you know that both of them deep down inside, have always looked across the island and said, I could beat that guy. I'm really the face of British boxing. And now both guys have an opportunity to prove. I think Anthony Joshua has done a lot more to keep his fan base strong and come back from adversity over the years, whereas Tyson Fury has a strong fan base. Don't get me wrong.

But sometimes the way he acts and kind of talks, he kind of fluctuates back and forth with him. Regardless, they both have massive fan bases. Both have carried British boxing at points in their career. And both have been the face of British boxing. So I think it's just now time to settle. And then Tyson Fury also says this. I was to return. And I was to box Daniel Dufour.

He wouldn't land a glove on me. It'd be one-sided beat down. But, listen, I wish him look in his fight against two sets. What style is made fights, you know what I mean? And his style and my style don't gel. I mean, that's great to say it all, but it's been a while since Tyson Fury had one of those. You're not going to lay a glove on me performances. Guys that were both good technically and weren't good technically,

everybody laid a glove on him since the Deonté Wilder fight. Deontay knocked him down and he rose up like the undertaker. Francis Ngano, who had never had a boxing match before, hit him with a left hook and knocked him down. Usik has touched him with the left hand and wobbled him, damn near sent him to the floor. I don't know if I believe anymore that Tyson Fury is as slick as potentially he was. early in his career, the guy that outboxed Vladimir Klitsko. I don't know if that guy is still in there. So I don't, I mean, again, that matchup, cool.

But again, I'm just going to put it out there. I think it would mean more if Tyson beat Anthony Joshua and then, or Anthony Joshua beat Tyson regardless, the winner either fought Usik if he beats Daniel Dubois or in some fashion there's some rematches that happen. Either way, it's a clear choice for me. Now, again, my opinion means nothing when it comes to what actually. will happen. Am I glad that Tyson is talking about returning? Yeah, absolutely, because when he's in the sport, it's better than when he's not. I mean, that's just, it's another massive heavyweight name. Yes,

it comes with some, all right, we're going to have to hear Tyson below V8 and sometimes downright lie about things that have happened to him and talk some absolute bollocks here and there. But eventually, he will fight. And when he fights, he is entertaining to watch. He's one of the best fighters at heavyweight in the world. So yes, of course, the sport is better with him in it. I just think the best fight, the most satisfying, I think the one the sport needs the most, and the one that will live on through the history books, regardless of who wins or loses, is Tyson Fury, Anthony Joshua. That's the fight I think needs to happen. I hope that that's the fight that does happen, and I'm not so sure that this tweet from Turkey Alice Shake in the Ring magazine is not more

window dressing. Maybe I'm wrong, but to be so blunt about having him just come back and fight Alexander Usik, I think there may be a little bit more going on, especially hearing people like Eddie Hearn talking about how, at all points, Turkey Alishake wants to make this. biggest fights possible for the fans, for the sport. I think everybody in that circle knows, and really all over the world knows that at heavyweight, there's no bigger fight. Even for a world title right now, I'm going to put my name on that one. I'm going to stamp that. I don't think there's a bigger fight at heavyweight. World title included or not than Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua. That's the fight that needs to be made. If you disagree, let me know in the comments below.

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