The Herd with Colin Cowherd - THE W.A.D.E. Concept - WEEK IN REVIEW - Conor McGregor LEAKED, Usyk Vs Dubois MADNESS, Misfits return AND MORE...

Episode Date: July 21, 2025

This week on THE W.A.D.E. Concept: WEEK IN REVIEW, Wade dives into the LATEST Conor McGregor controversy, reacts to the Usyk Vs Dubois fight week, Misfits Boxing's BIG return and more... Timestamps;0:...00 CONOR MCGREGOR LEAKED 14:09 KSI COACHES CONTROVERSY 25:51 MISFITS BOXING'S RETURN 37:04 USYK VS DUBOIS PREDICTION 01:04:22 USYK VS DUBOIS KO REACTION 01:17:30 MANNY PACQUIAO ROBBED 💥Join The WADE Concept Media Team to get access to EXCLUSIVE perks: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJb9AgsGZvAIGxP6AGUORAw 💥Subscribe to The W.A.D.E. Concept on YouTube!! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJb9AgsGZvAIGxP6AGUORAw 💥Check Out All of My Content in Audio Form On Spotify & Apple Podcasts!! Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0UAOy35GkG9gqmRpQyr6Fr?si=e3ce2c880ba64e3a Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/ie/podcast/the-w-a-d-e-concept-with-wade-plemons/id1807106061 💥 FOLLOW Me on Twitch!! https://www.twitch.tv/wadeplem 💥I Have a PO BOX!! You can send me things here: "The WADE Concept" 27758 Santa Margarita Pkwy Box 581 Mission Viejo, CA 92691 Follow me on Twitter and hit me up with any questions or feedback on the videos:https://x.com/WadePlem  ✅ Follow me on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/wadeplem ✅ For business inquiries email me here: wadeconceptbusiness@gmail.com ✅ #herdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:19 is something that I'm going to talk about on this channel. I told myself I wouldn't, but it's just too insane to ignore. Because Connor McGregor just exposed. And I don't meet it in a clickbaity YouTube kind of way. I mean Connor McGregor just exposed himself. The McCammer, Mini Connor. Apparently the reason he calls himself muscle Mac these days. What do I mean? I'm telling you what I mean. Connor McGregor just sent himself an unsolicited nude picture in the DMs of Azalea Banks. This is real. And again, believe it or not, it's just a piece. Not like
Starting point is 00:02:53 that of the crazy week that Connor McGregor has had. this weekend. I just feel like we have to talk about it. I don't even know if I want to. We have to talk about it because I have been blessed with the burden of covering combat sports. And I guess that means we have to talk about it. What do I mean to breakdown? Let's go. All right, so let's just cannot believe this is a story, but at the same time I kind of can. Um, all right, so as everybody else did today, I woke up to see Conne McGregor's piece on the internet. I mean, let's just be honest, that's what happened. He's got a couple different pictures that he sent to singer-songwriter Azealia Banks.
Starting point is 00:03:28 Now, number one, probably the worst person you would want to send a DM to is Azelea Banks. For those of you that don't know her, and quite frankly, I'm not a massive fan of Azealia Banks or know a ton of her music. I know she's very popular,
Starting point is 00:03:43 or at least was at one time, but what I do know her for is being a bit of a loose canon. Controversial to say the least. Her Twitter, which we are not going to show, because, well, Connor McGregor's privates are on it, is laced with a ton of controversial statements, and just being off the wall. Crazy.
Starting point is 00:04:00 And she talks about everything from political statements to calling people out, to, I guess, posting Connor McGregor's dick on Twitter. But regardless, if you were going to do something like this, the one thing you wouldn't do is send it to someone with a massive following and that really didn't give a... And I want to reiterate how stupid this really was. Connor not only sent this picture to Azelia Banks, Actually two pictures of his member to Azealia Banks, one of which, this is not a joke.
Starting point is 00:04:29 This actually happened has a dumbbell hanging off of it to show its strength, I guess. There's a reason why I'm talking about this. Please bear with me. And both these pictures had their own caption. The one without the weight says something to the effect of don't be a rat because rats get caught, which clearly shows me that Connor McGregor knew that Azealia Banks is crazy. and will absolutely post a dick pick of his on the internet, and still he decided to send it to her,
Starting point is 00:04:58 which told me that Connor knew Azelia Banks was crazy, and that he probably guessed she would put it out on the internet, which makes me think, is this some big, some Kim Kardashian publicity stunt thing, I don't know. And two, the one with the weight attached to it just said, lifting weights. Lifting weights? What the...
Starting point is 00:05:17 What the... What is wrong with this guy, man? What is wrong with this dude, bro? I'm laughing because I don't really know what else. to do. This is awkward as f***. It's weird. And the fact that I even am talking about it is is completely insane. But it is what it is, man. It is what it is. And here we are. And Connor has since offered a birthday message to himself in the midst of all the controversy. But you know what? I think this stems from some things that happened earlier this week. I think that this is
Starting point is 00:05:42 Connor McGregor taking a victory lap on doing whatever the he wants. And let's be honest. At this point, Connor McGregor has lost all self-respect. He's lost all assembly. He's lost all of a brain and he's lost the people of Ireland. He keeps talking about doing some presidential run. I think right now the only thing he could be president of is a kinks without shame club where a bunch of degenerate Neanderthal freaks show up and do all the crazy shit that's probably illegal. Uh, speaking of illegal, I'm pretty sure what Azealia Banks just did and posted that on Twitter
Starting point is 00:06:12 is illegal. And she since come out and said, uh, that her and Connor have been sending each other solicited naked pictures for years. I think she was bullshitting. I have no idea. The whole situation's weird. But this isn't just another one of the long laundry list of things Connor McGregor's done that disappoints pretty much everyone.
Starting point is 00:06:29 This one goes past that. This one's a little different, but it's textbook Connor McGregor. I'm just going to do whatever I want and y'all are going to have to see it. And why I think this whole thing has spiraled starting this week was earlier this week. When I was in New York, Connor was in Florida promoting BKFC. And he showed up to that press conference on more Kane than an old man with a broken hit. That dude was snorting freaking double black diamond slopes.
Starting point is 00:06:59 I mean, I just have to imagine because this is in one hand one of the greatest promos I've ever seen. And in the other, is completely deranged and psychotic. What's good? I mean, what? You can see beside me and in front of me some of the baddest men and women
Starting point is 00:07:20 to ever grace planet earth. This is what we're about here at Bernoucle Fighting Chat. The alien of combat sport and may we rise above the night sky and rain down blows Vicious rain down what? Listen, BKFC can rain down the blows talking about punches but Connor already had to blow rain down on him by the cocaine guys. He looks like Pablo Escobar. He can't even get through a sentence without taking heavy breaths.
Starting point is 00:07:49 He's screaming into that microphone and sweating turning more red than the Kool-Aid man before jumps through your wall, dude. All our deniers and announce here today that Bar-Nuckel FC has no love for the big glove. So let's get on, Bern-Noggle, let's go Florida, and let's announce some incredible matchups, some shock signings, and the most lucrative tournament in all of combat sport, where we crown in an open weight, the baddest man on the planet. Let's go, give it up. Come on.
Starting point is 00:08:23 So what he's talking about there, by the way, I can't even lie. It's a good promo. That's a better promo than companies would pay for. That's a better promo than any fighter, WWE, wrestler, actor, anybody could cut. Connor is just, he's one of one with a microphone at his head. Jesus. But that little bit right there, and there's more because not only was he feeling himself as promoter for the BKFC, he was also in his bag as fighter because Mike Perry called him out at the same press conference
Starting point is 00:08:52 and this is what he had to say. Yeah, you're welcome back, because I welcomed you back. October 11th is your date, and you'll dance for me, Vorey. You'll dance for the owner, and then we can talk. But your date is October 11th. Michael Perry, the return of platinum. And we've got some hell of an announcement for an opponent for you. One of the baddest men to ever grace the ultimate fighting championship
Starting point is 00:09:13 where it comes to bare knuckle, and he's going to throw down with you in front of me for my viewing pleasure, and then I'll decide if you're awarding. Jesus, man. He's so good, but he's so cracked up on cocaine. But again, you're seeing the theme of this press conference in the mind state that Connor McGregor has been in this last week, and I'm probably a lot more than just the last week. Because God only knows, but I'm willing to assume if this is how Connor's operating off a little snorts of the cocaine, and he's out in foreign land. And by the way, he also stepped out on D. Devlin once again, while out in the United States,
Starting point is 00:09:47 Pissing up on another lady on some beach, which was plain to see without it. Connor wasn't trying to hide it at all. You can kind of see where I'm going with this. It's definitely not his first time snorting any of the blow. Probably not the first time he sent a DM like this, unsolicited to a woman, I guess he fancy. Regardless, he is very comfortable with what he's doing and what he's saying. That is kind of the point I'm getting at. Connor has become comfortable answering to nobody for anything ever.
Starting point is 00:10:16 Whether this was always in Connor's character or it's just something that's come out of him making shit tons of money and having no one to tell him no. This is who he is now. And in the same token, tomorrow he'll be on Twitter talking about praise be to God. Thank you so much. People of Ireland, I want to be your next president. I'm here to save the people. I don't know if he's bipolar. I don't know if it even matters.
Starting point is 00:10:37 I don't know if he even understands what the fuck is the difference between that person who's the wannabe president, loving father, family man. and the snorting cocaine off strippers' buttholes, Connor, and doing don't know. And doing don't know. And what I think is, because you look at these view counts of these videos, Connor got a lot of attention for this press conference. Honestly, if I wasn't in New York, I would have made a video on it. Because when Connor does come out and he's in the limelight,
Starting point is 00:11:08 you can't tell me he doesn't love that feeling. You know, the dawn, yeah, mate. I'm the fucking dawn around here, yeah. You'll dance, Swami, my daddy. You dance. He loves that persona about himself, and that changed somewhere. It used to be Connor McGregor would talk true. I talk truth, not talk she, right?
Starting point is 00:11:25 That was his thing. I speak to truth. And when I speak to truth, it happens. He got away from that when the money came in. And truly, when that boxing match happened with Floyd, he made that $100 million. And then he came back and got flat out embarrassed by Habib. Somewhere in that, in those two fights, Connor changed. As a person he changed, whether it was Habib taken his story.
Starting point is 00:11:44 soul from him that night in Vegas or if it was just the money that he made compounded into more money that he made off the Floyd Mayweather fight something about him completely changed and I think he likes it I'm gonna be honest I think he likes it or at least part of him does the part that's not the family man staying at home dad thing it's like Dr. Jekyll and Mr. High well Mr. Hyde comes out Connor is on a rampage of attention of dopamine I don't know something that gets him in this this, I mean, cocaine gets him in this high state where he's just like, y'all, y'all, you can't tell me nothing. Y'all, I'm going to do whatever the fuck I want. And I mean, yeah, it's, if you take a step back and you remove yourself from the comedy aspect of this whole thing, it is pretty
Starting point is 00:12:25 sad to see because, yeah, I mean, how many times am I going to get on YouTube and talk about how I used to look up to Connor McGregor and thought that the things he practiced and what he preached about self-belief, about willing things into existence, his run throughout the UFC was all inspiring. Connor still draws headlines. He is still, you saw it there, a great promoter, the best talker in combat sports, point blank period, maybe ever. We're watching now because of the train. We're watching the drunk uncle at the party wondering if and when he's going to piss on himself and fall asleep. Like that's the entertainment value of Connor McGregor right now. Sure, it's entertaining. He's a psychopath and he's clearly on some sort of paraphernalia. But the decisions he makes
Starting point is 00:13:05 are just deplorable. They are. Or just idiotic. And I don't want to. just mean that Connor exposed himself by hopping in Azalea Banks' DMs and hanging more hog than a butcher's shop. But what I really mean is that I am starting to believe when we talk about all, you know, Habib broke him, the Floyd fight broke him. I'm kind of also in the same mind going, no, Connor is exposing that maybe this is who he always was. He didn't have the means to be that person. Maybe he wasn't meant for this kind of lifestyle, for this kind of money, where he isn't left in check and no one can really say anything to him because these are the things he does. when he has it. Regardless, it's just an insane thing that Connor continues to do. I mean, listen,
Starting point is 00:13:45 I said it a second ago. Could this be a Kim Kardashian-style publicity stunt? Maybe. What do they say? All press is good press, but I think he should have pressed to delete on all those pictures before he ever sent him out. Uh, because now you even have my personal uncle, Chale, so befuddled in his video that he can't think of anything else throughout his day. Here's Chale. I can't quit staring at Connor's dick. I can't. And a kid, like, this is the, this is the, this is the of the conversation you have to go to because it's so fucking silly that yeah you can sit here and be that oh man look how much of a disappointment connor regregor is and wow look what a fall from grace but then you have this side of it that's like yeah bro this is this is this is fucking hilarious i sent connor's dick to my partner ryan who opened it on his computer right as his wife was
Starting point is 00:14:32 coming in the background and then we have to explain what's happening here but i can't stop looking at I've stared at this dick for the last two hours. Now, I'm not going to go into detail on the physical layout of things and the dimensions of said things. And I can assure you that in no world did I stare at that picture for two hours, but it's my uncle Chaleville different, dude. This train wreck that Connor McGregor has involved himself in, it's going to a bad place.
Starting point is 00:15:04 I don't know where, but it's not going to end up well. At some point, this kind of behavior is going to catch. up to him. I know that there's still ongoing stuff with the sexual assault allegation. I don't know what happens with that, but at some point, Connor's going to land himself and his family and the people around him in such a terrible, terrible spot because of his actions. And we will have all seen it coming. Not like that. But the point is, today is a little bit of a wackier one with Connor's nudes getting leaked. That, for most people, would be mortified. For Connor McGregor, just another day. That's the fucking problem. Uh, yeah, it's going to end up. It's going to end badly. Way worse than just some nudes
Starting point is 00:15:39 being leaked, which again would be the worst for most people, for Connor. Not so much. I got no other words. All I'll say is, Connor probably needs to fight sometime soon, because when he doesn't have fighting, when he doesn't have things to keep him occupied, he clearly
Starting point is 00:15:54 has an issue keeping himself together. So either I hope he fights, maybe that UFC White House guard or he gets his shit together, which is completely unlikely. But either way, that's a story for today. I don't even know if this video is going to be any good, but Conne McGregor just exposed himself
Starting point is 00:16:11 In more ways than one or two And the weight Of this situation Is enough to hang your hat on I'm done I'll see you guys in the next one I don't have any other words Bye
Starting point is 00:16:24 The craziest thing That I saw this week Was the fact that KSI was on Chunks's show Which I didn't know that Chunks had a podcast But it's called The Chunks show And he was talking about His purse from the Tommy Fury fight And folks this is genuinely
Starting point is 00:16:38 fucking insane what he says. Forget the caption. Let's just listen to what he had to say. With my last fight with Tommy Fury, my whole purse, my whole purse, I gave it to my trainers. I was like, bro, cool. Like, I didn't, I didn't. I didn't. One or neither. You should do that with the podcast. No, wait, wait, wait. What, what region? Are we talking zeros? Bo, seven figures. Okay, so listen to. Are we for real? First off, before I, before I, before I blow a gasket, let's just say this. That's a pretty cool thing for KSI to do, right? That's really cool to say, you know what, I have a ton of money. Money is not why I do this. Here, here you go for training me and preparing me for this fight. I get that. That's dope, right? Would I ever do that?
Starting point is 00:17:26 Out of your mind, no shot to put in the amount of work that he had to put in for that fight, to take the time away from other stuff. I'm getting my bread. Now, I'm not in the same financial category probably never will be as Mr. bordering on billionaire over there. But how in the world do you give, now it says 10 mil on the caption and I kind of got baited with that. He says seven figures. Whatever the number was,
Starting point is 00:17:51 how do you get brainwashed into thinking that that head coaching team deserved seven figures after we find out that, you know, months down the line, they're running him ragged in the gym, sometimes training him twice a day, five days sparring him, injecting his hands with anesthetic for him to spar. Like some of the dumbest decisions you can make for a guy like KSI, a cash cow? Clearly like KSI. To then go, here's seven figures.
Starting point is 00:18:21 Fucking crazy. And listen, everybody can do whatever they want with their money, right? I would never look at somebody and be like, unless they were like family or, you know, a close friend and be like, hey, you're probably, you probably shouldn't be spending as much money. years you're spending on X Y and Z. KSI can do whatever he wants with his money, but this is genuinely like stupid to do. Because what it does is incentivizes the way he's being trained, the way they are pushing him, and honestly the brainwashing that's taken place. Because think about it this way. First off, yes, the hand was injured before the Tommy Fury fight. I have no problem with
Starting point is 00:18:54 KSI going through with the Tommy Fury fight with a hand injury. Things happen, you got to push through it. Off the back of it, to continue trying to push through it after you give it a couple of weeks of rest for a month of rest and continue to push and push and push I think is a direct cause and effect situation from the 10 millie seven millie one millie whatever the seven figures was that he gave the trainers they went shit if he's gonna give us this kind of money just to every time he fights why not just keep having him fight why not just push him through whatever the fc hurts who cares we got to make our seven millie we got to make our five million whatever i could be completely wrong this could be even close to the situation.
Starting point is 00:19:35 And I'm sure his coaches care about him, but you can't tell me that there's no money involved when I'm hearing this kind of stuff. You can't tell me there might not be alternate, ulterior motives when this kind of money is involved. Like I said, I think it incentivizes this whole thing. And if you are JJ, you don't know any better. That's another thing too.
Starting point is 00:19:50 You don't know any better. And this is why I think it's extra kind of weird, not from JJ. Like again, paying his trainers his full purse? Awesome. Super generous thing to do. Is trainers accepting the money? Again, I can't blame them.
Starting point is 00:20:02 Sure, accept the money. fine, but I'm just looking at this whole situation and I'm going, man, I feel like he's getting taken advantage of. I just, I look at that and go, yeah, dude, they're running your pockets. JJ's never been an athlete. I'm not saying JJ's not an athletic guy. He's just never done it outside of boxing. He never been in a boxing gym before he met, I think, Leon. And as far as the business side of it, I don't think that I'm out of line saying that he's not very hands-on when it comes to looking into the business side of these things and how boxing business works and how these other financial sectors are. So when he's being pushed at LSF and he sees all these other fighters,
Starting point is 00:20:42 right, he sees Michael Vittam Pays and he sees these M.M.A guys and they're being pushed just as hard as he is. He's probably like, okay, shit, I'm in the right spot. These guys really are, man, and he's having results. Fair play. They got him the result over temper. They got him the result. Well, they didn't get him the result in Joe Fournier, but they beat temper. He's pumped. He comes close to beating Tommy Fury so they're pumped. Look, I've got it. I'm doing something right here. He probably just doesn't know any better. Like he knows better than that trainers get a certain percentage,
Starting point is 00:21:08 but I don't know if he knows any better that they're working him like a freaking mule over there and they're milking him like a cow after. I look at it and I think this is an incentivization and it explains a lot about what happened after the Tommy Fury fight. It explains a little bit more. It explains a bit of opponent selection because let's be honest. After the Tommy Fury fight, there were some names thrown out that weren't. great opponents for JJ to face next and apparently according to you know unnamed sources
Starting point is 00:21:36 that JJ's coaches have a lot of say in who he fights it explains a lot about pushing through injuries multiple different times explains why they were injecting his hands with anesthetics because I've never heard of that ever I'm just saying nefarious or not it explains why the need for JJ to fight like a normal fighter would be on the table He's a cash cow for misfits, but also he's the cash cow for LSF. I think it becomes a bit of a dilemma when you're having him in the gym completely fucking his hand up just so he can get a payday on a 2V1 match with Slim and AT that no one gave a fuck about.
Starting point is 00:22:13 Or, hey, let's get him in there with Wayne Bridge so we could have him fight or even the Dylan Dennis thing. It was like the high level opponent. Fuck him getting better for actually preparing him for a Jake Paul fight. We want to get paid. That's what I don't know their gym. I don't know how they have. operate. I don't know what their situation looks like. I'm sure they're balling now. You know what I'm
Starting point is 00:22:33 saying? I'm sure now money is not an issue for LSF. You know what I'm saying? But yeah, that's a bit of an eye-opener. Not because JJ shouldn't have given them, not because they shouldn't have accepted it, because I know everybody over their works all. But it explains a lot about the way JJ is utilized in that gym and the opponent selection, the anesthetic in the hands, the training when he wasn't even encamped the way he was trying to train and how they, you know, treat him like just a normal, regular fighter when he's not that. Jake Paul is making his entire life boxing. That's not what JJ was doing. And the way they pushed him and pushed him and pushed him to the brink, I'll be honest, I think LSF ran JJ out of boxing. I think that the grind they put him through, the injuries
Starting point is 00:23:15 he got, the way he was lifting weights, the opponent selection, the lack of interest, the wear and tear, and obviously the big fact, him not getting the Jake fight, but I think all of that combined, they burn him out. They burn him out of the sport. They made him feel like this was his life. And that's, he's an adult, he's a big boy. He accepted that. And again, you can call it ignorance his bliss, but he just doesn't know any better. This is what he's supposed to do to get the Jake fight. It's what he's supposed to do to get better because he looks around and nobody else is JJ in that gym. So, okay, they're doing it. I'm doing it. But I think they ran him out. I think they burn him out. It'll be interesting to see if he goes back with him after this hand
Starting point is 00:23:47 surgery. Really, really will be interesting to see. I thought they had him sparring way too much. Now again, he's young in the game, so maybe you got to spar a lot. Fair play, but I think that they were fun. They were, I think they were seriously close to f*** him up by the way they had him lifting. Some of those exercises, I was like, you're going to hurt the kid. I mean, we were talking about this two years ago. We watched those workout vids of JJ and his knee looks like it's going to pop out a socket for him squatting some weight that doesn't ever need to be on his back.
Starting point is 00:24:17 Bench pressing some crazy weight for half a rep for no reason. It all makes sense now, though. And also, too, again, we'll talk about this side of it, the incentivization of coaching JJ at that point. When he gives up that full purse, it can go one of two ways. And I'm not here to tell you which way it's going to go or did go. But you can say, wow, that's super generous.
Starting point is 00:24:39 Thank you. We're going to take care of you better because of that because we don't want to have you hurt your hand. We don't want all these things so that we can, you know, continue this thing on. Or we have to get every single thing we can. out of this guy because his time is short in the sport so we need to run him again if that's the payout we're getting we need to run him again and again and again and again so i tend to think it was the second
Starting point is 00:25:01 part i tend to think they were like we need to really have him fight to make sure we get this payout because it's insane and i think there's a part of it that again j jay just looks at his team like they are above everything else that he could possibly ever get training wise and he and he and he respects it so much that man these guys they deserve that and he's he's just wrong but Then again, you know, they do train KSI as a high profile guy and he got paid a shit ton of money and he gave it all up. So fair play, I guess. But yeah, I saw that and I just couldn't believe it. Could not believe it because I'm pretty sure whatever's going on with his hands is at least somewhat going to be permanent.
Starting point is 00:25:36 Somewhat, there's going to be some permanent damage there. And that's the game. That's boxing. That's what happens when you step into this sport. It's a dangerous sport. But it could have been prevented. It definitely could have been at least managed better if not for the continued mismanagement. I would say that's gone on.
Starting point is 00:25:51 with JJ's career and London shoot fighters. Whether it was opponent selection, whether it was the way he was training, the way he was lifting, the way he was sparring, the way he was being taken care of. And eventually the way I think his career potentially, because I believe there might be a little soft tease
Starting point is 00:26:07 of retirement coming because of the way JJ talks about how he feels when he fights, how he feels when he's boxing, how it's miserable, how he doesn't like the person he is. I think he's burned out in the sport, and I think LSF has a big part of that. But you guys let me know down below.
Starting point is 00:26:22 This was one of the craziest things I saw this week. KSI forking over seven figures to the gym that probably permanently damaged his hand and burned him out on the sport. He's a classic, what do you, you call it Stockholm Syndrome? I don't know. A classic case of ignorance is bliss. A classic case of brainwashing.
Starting point is 00:26:41 A fighter from a gym, I don't know. But either way, it's completely, it's generous. It's a good faith act, but it's completely insane. He's probably done with the sport, at least in the short term, probably in the long term, without saying he's retired because once he says he's retired, Misfits is going to have a real problem on their hands. But that was one of the big things I wanted to make about this video is KSIT's in retirement. Also completely delusional about, you know, his team and their worth compared to what they've actually done for him. And what happens next for him?
Starting point is 00:27:12 Because I'm hearing he's either had surgery or he's about to have surgery. When he comes back, does he go back to L.SF? Maybe, maybe not. I think you would do better with Gibbs team. you could do better with B.J. Flores. They can do better with a ton of different people. But I think LSF's going to break him if he goes back there. It won't just be his hand.
Starting point is 00:27:28 It'll be something else because the way they train, the way they spar, the way they do things, it gets you right. You know, it gets him in a crazy physical shape. But it also leads to him doing and having detrimental things go on in his personal life and his professional life, and his health and well-being. So I just think it's a bad idea all the way around.
Starting point is 00:27:48 And I think they've, They've ran his pockets. And I want to say scammed him. I want to go that far to say they've scammed him. But yeah, and let me know what you guys think down below. And what happens next for KSI? I think he might be done.
Starting point is 00:28:02 I think he's probably done boxing. But that's just me. I don't have those answers. So I guess we'll find out. All right, folks. So we are back. And we have breaking news as misfits boxing is back. Missfits 22.
Starting point is 00:28:15 They're calling it Ring of Thrones. They've only announced two fighters. The Co-Main and the Main. It's only been out for about 10 minutes, and it's already sparking controversy, so we need to talk about it because I, for one, am excited, and I will be watching. What do I mean, the breakdown?
Starting point is 00:28:31 Let's go. So, Misfits 22 just dropped, and here is the poster. Ring of Thrones main event, Darren Till versus Luke Rockhold. Co-main event, Tony Ferguson, versus Super Salt Poppy. Now, they're talking about Misfits'
Starting point is 00:28:49 I don't really give a shit about any of that. I care about the four men in these two matchups and by the way the poster's fire. They're doing a Game of Thrones thing. I don't I never watched the Game of Thrones. Sorry to people that did, but it looks good. It looks pretty damn good. Now, let's talk location August 30th in the AO arena in Manchester. If I remember correctly, that is the city for sure, if not the same arena that I made my second home. That's right. Planted the Wade concept flag right in the middle of Manchester. It came across. Frost the Pond got a double you and said, yeah, Daddy's home. They're going back there, which I think is great because Miss Fitts has a massive UK audience. And listen, they have four big names, at least for this scene on the card. Three of which were either title contenders, interim champions, or in the case of Luke Rockhold, full on, MMA champions. So let's break down the matchups. Number one, Daryntill, Luke Rockhold.
Starting point is 00:29:42 You have former 170-pound championship contender in Daryntill versus at one point, I know it's big 2025 and we don't think about this anymore, but at one point, Luke Rockhold was the baddest dude in the world at 185 pounds. He was nasty. Now, this is boxing, not necessarily his forte, because Luke Rockold had never been a boxing aficionado. I mean, he lost a bare knuckle to Mike Perry, but, I mean, he had great kicks in MMA.
Starting point is 00:30:11 He had a great question mark kick, one of the best question mark kicks and high kicks. He'll ever see, but a high-level grappler in his own right as well. I mean, he beat Michael Bisbing with a one-arm guillotine at one point and strong guy, great grappler, but boxing was never really his thing, which is why, you know, when he came over and did the bare-knuckle thing, Mike Perry knocked his tooth out and beat him in a bare-knuckle fight. But now he's got the gloves on. And Darren Till's looking for more fighters to feast on. I'm going to be honest, I think Darren Till not only beats Luke Rockold here, probably knocks him out.
Starting point is 00:30:42 Because Darren Till has shown himself to be a high-level crossover boxer, if you want to call him. that but he is taken this scene by storm as beaten anthony taylor just beat darren stewart with a walk off k-o there and he's being active darin till right now is carrying misfits it's the truth he is misfits biggest star he's their biggest name ks i's not fighting so darin till has taken the company by storm and taken over this whole thing i was in his co-main event in his debut he since had another main event this is his third main event this year that's crazy darin till's fought three times this year, or will have, by the time August 30th rolls around, knock on wood. But yeah, I mean, listen, this is a great fight name value-wise. A lot of people know who Luke Rockhold is. I think he did
Starting point is 00:31:26 something with karate combat as well. He's done bare-knuckle. He has gotten around after his time in M.A. And I think he trains here on the West Coast. So if I can, I would love to get some sessions in or at least talk to Luke Rockhold about this decision to go and box and see, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe he's got better hands now. Maybe he's just been training boxing than we've ever seen before. But as of right now, I do think Darren Till is the better boxer of the two, and he's probably going to show it. But then we have the co-main event, and this one is very controversial people because it involves, I would say a man that most MMA fans are far more emotionally tied to because of his run and the subsequent falloff of one Tony Ferguson.
Starting point is 00:32:05 But whether you like this or don't like it, meaning him boxing, Tony has a ton of fans. And if this would have been Tony Ferguson versus Jake Paul or Tony Ferguson versus KSI, I probably be in the same boat to be like, yeah, no, I don't think this is a good idea. And to be honest, because of their experience and the time they've had in the sport, and Tony is coming off of a very downward trajectory in his MMA career. And listen, Salt Poppy's very good as well. It's not like he is just random influencer versus Tony Ferguson. Saul Poppy's probably going to knock Tony Ferguson out.
Starting point is 00:32:38 I mean, that's what I think. I think that Salt Poppy's probably going to clean Tony Ferguson's clock in this fight. And again, I don't think Tony should be fighting. gonna say that just like I said with the Mike Tyson fight and some others I don't think he should be fighting I don't think Manny Pachiao should be fighting this Saturday for a world title against Mario Barrios but that's happened these guys are adults they're gonna make the decisions they want to make am I pumped to see Tony go in there and get absolutely slaughtered no and and maybe he won't maybe he won't but all indications at least from here that Sol Pappy should
Starting point is 00:33:05 knock him out for sure and I don't want to see that at the same time I'm not gonna act like I don't want to see him fight and I don't want to see Salt Pobby fight I do I just don't want to see Tony get hurt but that's the fight game and that's what you should sign up for? These guys are grown men at the end of the day. I'm not making excuses for it. Again, Tony shouldn't be fighting. But hey, here we are. He's an adult. He said, yes, good luck to him. Maybe, maybe he comes out with a, with a sense of renewed energy at 41 coming into this fight. And everybody is walking into this thinking Salt Poppy's going to knock Tony out and Tony's a walking dead man. But it's interesting to me when I hear all this controversy pop up online because I was
Starting point is 00:33:39 here long enough to remember when Salt Poppy fought slim and lost and everybody said it was overrated or overhyped. And the same thing happened when, he fought Anthony Taylor and lost. And Anthony Taylor is not a spry chicken in his own right and definitely never had the career Tony Ferguson did. And I'm not trying to compare apples to oranges here. I'm just saying the same people that call Anthony Taylor trash for losing to Darren Till or call Slim trash for losing to Gibb are the same people upset that Tony Ferguson is fighting
Starting point is 00:34:04 the guy that lost to Slim and that lost Anthony Taylor in his debut on Misfits. And again, I'm with you that I think Tall Poppy's probably going to knock him out. But if Tony Ferguson is going to continue to fight, is there a less least? option for him name value-wise to keep you interested, to keep you entertained in watching him fight? Like, is it more safe for Tony Ferguson to go back and fight in the UFC? Is it more safe for him to go fighting karate combat? Is it more safe for him to go and box somewhere else? Is it more safe for him to do bare knuckle? The answer's no. If Tony Ferguson is going to fight, which again, I don't think he should, but if he's going to, it's going to be dangerous
Starting point is 00:34:37 regardless where he does it. But he's fighting the guy in Salt Poppy that has four years experience boxing. Sure, that's more than Tony. But it's, the lesser side of the experience you could have when walking into a new sport like boxing. And for Tony Ferguson, I still think he's going to get knocked the fuck out. But listen, I'm ready for this card. This feels like a, you know, a big move for misfits. At least without KSI in the fold of what's happening or at least, you know, him fighting or whatever. This feels like one of their bigger cards, one of their bigger opportunities to get themselves back on track.
Starting point is 00:35:11 Because KSI has pulled out of his last couple. There's been some great cards. There's been some okay cards. There's been some not so great cards. This one feels like at least at the top of it, it is going to be a good card for misfits. Now, again, they only have shown us the main and the co-main. I have heard rumors, and actually it's not even a rumor at this point
Starting point is 00:35:30 because he's pretty much come out and said it. Aaron the Plummer on Twitter is saying he's going to be fighting on August 30th. And if you guys know anything about what's been going on between B and Aaron the Plummer, I'll be taking a very close look at that fight. But who knows what else is going to be on this car? There could be another couple of bangers, another couple of sleepers on this card. But I can't lie, yeah, I'm pumped about watching misfits-22.
Starting point is 00:35:49 I know it's a freak show. I get it, and I've always got it. And for the people that don't like this kind of thing, that's okay. You don't have to like misfits, and you can call it a freak show. Because, yeah, you're right, it is. It is a bit of a freak show compared to the highest level of pro boxing. But no one's ever said that misfits was high-level boxing. No one's ever claimed that the best of misfits are the best in the world.
Starting point is 00:36:08 We know people that are in this scene and the crossover boxing scene. No, that's not the case. That's not ever been. the case. That's never been where it came from or where it's going. It's just entertaining fights for the sake of having entertaining fights. And also, if we're going to call this a freak show, then you kind of do have to call the rest of the sport of boxing at times a freak show because most of your favorite fighters in their first 10 to 12 fights. They're not fighting anybody of substance. They're not fighting high-level competitors. They're going out and knocking out tomato cans to
Starting point is 00:36:34 pad their record to put them in a position to fight against some of the people that are holding world titles in their next 10 to 15 fights. And the second biggest fight that's ever been presented on paper view in a boxing ring was a freak show. Lloyd Mayweather versus Connor McGregor in a pro boxing match was a complete freak show because why would the greatest of all time or at least one of the greatest of all time at 49 and 0 even be able to or elect to fight Connor McGregor in his debut in boxing and people wouldn't watch anything like that right. Morality would get in the way
Starting point is 00:37:05 they would say no way can we let that no of course not it was like four million people bought it on pay-per-per-view and how about Tyson Fury Francis and Ganoo that just happened like two years ago and The people that were acting like it wasn't a big deal or it wasn't something they were going to watch, they still showed up and watched. And Francis Ngano knocked down Tyson Fury, the reigning heavyweight champion of the world in his first boxing match. So I'm tired of the whole fake purist thing where people act like that some big deal that these fights go on and they're finger waving and safeguarding the sport of boxing. When we all know the sport of boxing, much like the sport of MMA and combat sports in general, have a bit of freak show in them. Because you kind of have to.
Starting point is 00:37:41 Because these sports are not like regular sport. They're just not. It's just a very polarizing thing because Tony Ferguson's 41, and he's coming off a massive losing streak in the UFC. But again, I counter with if Tony is going to fight, and that's something you and I can't control. Is there a safe option out there for him? The answer is no.
Starting point is 00:37:57 There isn't. A fight's a fight. So he shouldn't be doing it, but I'm not going to lie. I'm going to watch. I'm excited for the rest of this card rollout. A.O. Arena, August 30th, Manchester. Darren Till, Luke Rockhold. I mean, listen.
Starting point is 00:38:10 I have a feeling Darren Till is going to win that, but hey, you never know. and let's see what Luke Rockhold brings. But regardless, Misfits is trying, and this announcement was a little bit delayed. But I'm happy that they got something going here and they got a date and they're looking to move forward. And again, I am keeping an eye on that air in the plumber fight. So what happens in these two fights? I've given my opinion.
Starting point is 00:38:29 Maybe it'll change as we get closer if I see something different. Probably not. But I'm excited for it. I'm going to be watching. So yeah, stay tuned. We'll do some breakdowns. I'd love to interview Luke Rockhold. I think he's out here in Orange County.
Starting point is 00:38:41 So hopefully we can get that set up. try to build this thing because you know what I want to have fun watching cards and I want to see misfits continue to grow it's where I started in this scene and I want to continue to try to help them build and I'll always try to do that so misfits 22 breaking news announcement just dropped main event der until Luke rockold and co-main Tony Ferguson makes his return versus salt poppy august 30th a.O arena Manchester aka my backyard what happens when this card fully gets unveiled who wins and why i don't have those answers yet but i guess we'll find out all right so we are back on the way concept presented by the ring and today we are taking a look at the heavy
Starting point is 00:39:26 weight rematch for the undisputed championship of the world elksandre usick versus daniel dubois number two the rematch after some will say controversy in the first fight i kind of agree but we'll get into why after we take a look at their first face off this fight will be a week They sat down face to face, and as we know, both of them are not great talkers, but I want to take a look and see what the energy is. I want to see what Daniel Dubois brings differently to this fight than he brought to the first fight. I want to see if Ussick still has that passion at the top level to take down and reinvigorated Daniel Dubois. But before we do any of that, I want to let you guys know two things. Number one, I am live this Saturday for this fight, Usik Dubois number two,
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Starting point is 00:41:39 Let's get back to the breakdown. like I said, let's see if we can read into the messaging between Daniel Dubois and Alexander Usik and between the two of them, what has changed from the first fight to now? It's the face-off breakdown. Let's go. By the way, I don't know if you guys saw this. I need to find the actual the video. Daniel Dubois screaming in Usik's face when they dropped down yesterday in London. This is actually the first face-off of fight week, I guess. Look at the confidence oozing out of both guys. Usick, very stoic, Daniel Dubois, well, yeah, he's Daniel Dubois. Scream. The way that Daniel Dubois acts, it's unlike any other fighter I've ever seen. He is just
Starting point is 00:42:27 fully himself. I think sometimes he even has no idea the moment that he's in and he's just, I don't know, I don't know how to describe it. He's just himself and it's refreshing. He's not trying to be, you know, a crazy good shit talker. He's not even trying to be intimidating. He's just telling it like he sees it. And even when he says like, and the new it, and he's screaming it in Ussk's face, I don't think that's projection.
Starting point is 00:42:50 I think that's the confidence he feels after his run, after the first fight, or he got knocked down and eventually stopped with the jab from Usook. The run he's been on since, the Miller fight, Hergovich,
Starting point is 00:43:03 Joshua, all these things back to back to back, and all of them being stoppages, has led him back to this moment. And I think that, screaming in Usox's face is letting him know, like, listen,
Starting point is 00:43:13 this is a different, a different Daniel Dubois. So anyway, let's get into the actual face-to-face here. Under Usik, Daniel Dubois, we go again. Do you think you could be getting Alexander at a good time? He's had two hard 12-round fights with Tyson Fury. Obviously, 38 now. Is this your time?
Starting point is 00:43:32 You could say that, but I don't want to even put it down to just being an old man. I've got to prove myself. I love it, dude. Again, Daniel Dubois is not even trying to put down Usik. when he's talking about him. He's just telling it like he truly wants this to be looked at. He's just blunt. That's all it is.
Starting point is 00:43:50 He's like, listen, I don't want anybody to just put this down to him being an old man when I destroy him. Right? Like, he does not want any excuses, but he's not even trying to be disrespectful. He's just,
Starting point is 00:44:01 he's just blunt. And I like it. I like the fact that he's like, yeah, no, we're not going to sit here and act like if I beat him, it's because he went through two 12 round fights with Tyson Fury in that he's 38. Now,
Starting point is 00:44:12 if I win, or I guess he would say, a win, I win, it's going to be because Daniel Dubois got better, not because Usset got worse, right? But just like the way he said it, he's like, we're not going to act like he's just an old man. I don't want to even put it down to just being an old man. I've got to prove myself and, you know, bring chaos in the ring. I bring them the force I have, that will be what's needed, really.
Starting point is 00:44:37 But I stand more to gain. He's at the end of his career. I stand more to gain from a win. Getting all the belts, that means, you know, that's a start for me, really. He's like, I don't want to put it down to Usik being at the end of his career, but he is at the end of his career, and I am not. So he is an old man. What are your memories of the first fight with Daniel?
Starting point is 00:45:00 My winner. Yeah? Did anything surprise you about Daniel? No. No. It's a boxing. Boxing don't have surprise. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:13 How do you approach this fight? Bousick is just, I mean, again, he's never been like a crazy wordsmith. He's trying to obviously speak English and not his native tongue. But it's simple but effective the way that he does these like face-offs. And, you know, if there are mind games back and forth, he usually is getting the best. He got the better of Tyson Fury in the mind game stuff leading up to both of their fights, where Tyson usually is the big talker and, you know, he's calling him rabbit and sausage and all this.
Starting point is 00:45:40 And Bucick was just calm, cool, collected, laughing at it. at Tyson Fury and got the better of him, got Tyson all out of sorts. Even an answer like that, he's like, what do you remember about the first fight? He's like, I won. That's what I remember. And no, Dubois didn't surprise me because it's boxing. I'm ready for whatever. Like, it's simple but effective.
Starting point is 00:45:57 Differently this time. Confidence, I'm ready to seize victory. Is it about throwing the kitchen sink? It's about getting victory. Seriously, you know, I've worked hard for it. And now I want to cause chaos in the ring and restore it with order with victory. So that's my, that's a, that's a, That's my mindset.
Starting point is 00:46:15 That's twice now Dubois said he wants to cause chaos in the ring. That seems like a, you know, a message they've had in camp, something that he definitely wants to try to flesh out in real time. And what I think he means, if I'm just trying to guess, he's going to try to take the fight to Alexander Usik. And I think it's a good idea. You can't let Usik get downhill and push you back. Tyson Fury let him push him back twice.
Starting point is 00:46:36 It didn't go well for him. Anthony Joshua let Usik get on the front foot. And it didn't go well for him. Dubois, when he was in that first fight and things started. started to not go his way, Ussick got downhill and didn't go well for him. You do need to keep pressure on Usoc. He is a technician. And eventually, if he's allowed to walk forward and start the exchanges and keep his
Starting point is 00:46:55 offensive volume up, he's going to find it open. And when he finds it, he's going to go back to the well and it's going to hurt you. So when he's talking about causing chaos in the ring, I have to think he means be first, be on the front foot, and make Usoc adjust to him versus him adjusting to Usoc. Or make Usoc a little hesitant to throw versus him be hasn't been to throw. And welcoming a firefight is what Daniel Du Bois is essentially saying there. I don't know about all that, but I do like the idea of him being first, him being on the front
Starting point is 00:47:23 foot and him pushing and pressuring Ussick versus just allowing Uc to stand in the middle and then eventually push him back. That can't happen for Daniel Du Bois. What was it like sharing the ring with Ucic, everyone calling Alexander a master? What was it like sharing a ring with a master? I look I've come on since then I've resurrected myself so I feel
Starting point is 00:47:51 you know just ready for the ready for a new beginning really I'm ready for a great fight looking forward to a great fight and yeah I'm excited for it it's interesting the way that Dubois
Starting point is 00:48:03 answered that question it's like in his mind he didn't even want to give up the fact that Usik either got the better of him in the first fight or that Usik was a master of boxing I kind of like that mindset to be like, I'm not even going to entertain what happened in the first fight. It's done and over. I've moved on.
Starting point is 00:48:18 But then a part of me kind of looks at that and goes, oh, man, Daniel's having a real hard time except that he lost that first fight. He's like, oh, I've changed since then. And, you know, I'm better now. My confidence is higher now. When you're starting to talk about, like, reasons Daniel lost the first fight, you can say a big part of it, people on the outside say, was, you know, he didn't have the confidence to weather adversity, right?
Starting point is 00:48:38 He didn't have the confidence to stay on task when Ussick started to turn the tide after the low blow and everything else. By the way, I'm still on the fence about that being a low blow. I genuinely don't think he hit him with a low blow. But regardless, I also think Ussick would have gotten up, had the referee started counting in his face. But watching that first fight happen, you saw potentially Daniel Dubois go, okay,
Starting point is 00:48:58 I haven't been to this place before, and I don't like it, so let me get out of here, right? You could extrapolate that there was a bit of a mental switch that was shut off where he was like, ah, I'm kind of done. This is not something I want to do right now. If he's figured that out and mentally, like he's talking about, more confident this time around. That could lead to a different fight absolutely because Dubois was doing
Starting point is 00:49:17 very well in the first fight and then things went downhill and he kind of let it go downhill. He let that snowball build as it was coming downhill. So I like his answer there, but there's also a part of me that goes, has he even accepted that this fight may go back to the same place it was in the first fight? Meaning there's going to be adversity at some point here for Daniel Dubois almost certainly. Is he ready mentally for that moment. I think through the fights he's been in so far, that's prepared. But those fights with Joshua,
Starting point is 00:49:46 Hergovich, and Miller, those guys hadn't beaten him yet. Usik had. It's one thing to battle through adversity in a fight that's back and forth. It's another thing to battle the man that already beat you, and he beat you after you had good moments. Coming back that second time around, how do you face him if things don't go your way
Starting point is 00:50:02 or if things are back and forth even the second time? You get what I'm saying? I don't know. Question asked, Alexander. Did anything Do you think surprise you about him? No, no, to be honest, really, no. No? No. The power, everybody talks about the power of Daniel Dubois.
Starting point is 00:50:21 The biggest puncher you've been in the ring with? I think no. No? Who was the biggest puncher? Bani is Derek. Really? Yeah. Crazy.
Starting point is 00:50:37 Dereggs. She saw her punches harder than Daniel? Crazy Derek, yeah. interesting okay Alexander Usick says Derek Chazora punches harder than Daniel Dubois I mean listen at heavyweight measuring someone's punch
Starting point is 00:50:51 unless you're Deonté Wilder or Ernie Shavers or Archie Moore or you know like George Foreman Mike Tyson unless you're like a one of one of your generation when it comes to power punching and boxing everybody hits hard right like everybody at heavyweight hits
Starting point is 00:51:07 or Usik hits hard Usig had Tyson Fury doing the freaking chicken dance. I'm talking DJ Unk walk it out in that first fight. He was dragging him all over the ring like Tyson was on a three-day bender. That's how bad that Usik had him hurt with a left hand. So everyone hits hard. Obviously, Daniel Dubois hits hard for that division. Has a big time right hand, left hook. He's got power. But as far as like, oh, does he hit harder than, I don't think it matters. Because if Dubois hits you on the chin, it doesn't matter if he hits harder than Chazora or Joshua or Wilder. It's heavyweight boxing and he's 240, maybe
Starting point is 00:51:40 He touched you on the chain, you're going to sleep, or at least you're losing your legs. You're getting the Zab Judah noodle legs. Again, I think this is a little bit of mind games from Usik. He may be telling the truth, but this little laugh at the end of it here tells me that, yeah, like, I think he wants to plant that seed in Daniel Dubois's mind. Like, bro, you don't even hit that hard. For you to be the big power puncher man, that's, that's not something I'm worried about. Crazy, Derek, yeah. Crazy Derek, yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:10 Was you surprised when Daniel didn't get to his feet when you hit him with that jab? No. No. There was a lot of controversy after that first fight with the shot. I'll say this. That jab was not a regular jab from Usik. He put a lot into that jab. That was more of a powerful jab more than just like a touch jab or, you know, something to find range with.
Starting point is 00:52:39 He was trying to hurt him with that jab. Again, I think that. there was a mental component from Dubois to say, I can make a choice right here, and I don't want any more of what I'm going through at this moment. But I do think it hurt it. I think it hurt him enough to send him down. I don't know if it hurt him enough to keep him down,
Starting point is 00:52:51 but regardless, that was a tough shot Usook hit him with. And there were more shots in that round and in that exchange that Usoc was having success with that Dubois just didn't want any more. I don't think it was a one-shot knockout punch. I think it was an accumulation of things that were happening to Daniel Du Bois. He's no surprise for me.
Starting point is 00:53:08 Because my job was hard. Was it a hard jab? I don't want to even go there. We're talking about that's past and gone. Because I don't know what you're trying to... I know what you're doing. You're doing your job. But I'm looking forward to causing chaos in the ring on Saturday.
Starting point is 00:53:27 And that's my whole game. And priority. Man, that question shook up, Daniel. This is what I'm talking about. Now, again, I know mentally he's trying to be like, I don't even want to talk about that. Because that's done and gone. And he said the cause chaos in the ring thing again.
Starting point is 00:53:44 I have to think that's like he comes in the gym every day with that on his mind because he said it like four times in this face off. But again, you just see how he reacts to anything that happened in that first fight. First off, he's like, I don't know what you're trying to pull here, but I know what you're trying to do, your job. And again, every fighter has their way of coping with a rematch that they lost the first fight in or things they need to adjust in in their career to come back stronger. I actually think the loss for Daniel Dubois was such a. good thing for his career. And again, I've been, you know, shouting this from the rooftop when it comes to boxing specifically. A loss does not hinder your career as much as it can help your career if you learn from the loss and come back and implement the things that you did wrong there
Starting point is 00:54:25 and worked on to make them right. I think it is such a big help to fighters. Not that you should go out there with the idea of I should lose, but if you do, it's not the end of the world, is my point. And actually, I think it made Daniel Dubois a better fighter. But I am worried again where he's like yeah we don't i'm not even going to talk about that has he accepted it not that he even has to but i think mentally it does play a part if you get into trouble again haven't accepted it yet the first time or you haven't even you know opened your mind to going back and looking at that and saying okay what could i have done better if it happens again if he gets in a bad spot again where does this fight go i don't know just keep an eye on that your form has been brilliant of late
Starting point is 00:55:07 what would you put that down to hunger and desire and you know just you know as you're a fighter you want to become the best so that and the team i'm around me my dad and that that circle in a circle kept me strong and here i am today do you look at that first fight and think i'm a completely different animal now yeah i've moved past i'm resurrected myself and i feel like i knew a ready a ready fighter ready for anyone in the world this shot that was called low if the referee had started counting, would you have got to your feet? Yeah, see, I just think that that shot is belt-wide to me, man.
Starting point is 00:55:51 The referee had started counting. Like, I know where it touches to begin with. I get that, like, first impact. But, yeah. I mean, I can see it being called low, to be honest. But I just, I think it's very borderline. And one thing's for sure. Ussig did not get punched in the nuts here.
Starting point is 00:56:10 Like for the people that are calling in a low blow, that's not where your nuts are. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like that, even there. Ussick's nuts are not at his V-taper. You know what I'm saying? Like, he didn't get hit in the balls here. I don't know if he's Connor McGregor out here. He might have got punched in the McHogg, but this is not.
Starting point is 00:56:26 The reaction that Ucett gave off this punch to me was more so because he was allowed to have the time by the referee. And I think it hurt him more to the body than it did to the nuts, if that makes sense. I think that's the best way to describe this. Could it have been by letter of the law low? Sure. I still think it's a bit borderline, but at the same time,
Starting point is 00:56:47 I don't think he was hitting the nuts. I do think he was hitting the lower stomach abdomen region, and he did not like that. And the referee gave him time, so he took it, right? That is, I mean, that's smart. That's a veteran move. If the referee got in his face and was one, two, I think Usset gets back to his feet.
Starting point is 00:57:04 Would you have got to your feet? Yes, of course. I would have come him. 100%. It was hard because my, my beau were saying, hey, Alex, whoa, whoa, whoa. So it was pain, but it's not like a body. It's... It's...
Starting point is 00:57:28 It's different. Well, I've heard Don Charles, your coach said... It was interesting. Alex said his corner was like, hey, Alex, whoa, whoa, whoa. So he took the time... I don't know what... Again, Usik, it's sometimes tough to understand, but he's essentially saying it wasn't a body shot. It was different pain.
Starting point is 00:57:44 I'm not him, so I can't, I'm not going to dispute, like, what he felt. Just what I see, I don't know. That doesn't, that doesn't seem like it was a nutshell. He believes that Alexander Condor ref and the boxing time. Yeah, don't even go there. Maybe. Don't even go. No.
Starting point is 00:57:58 No. This is today, this is now. I'm going to enjoy this fight. I want to enjoy this fight, so we'll see. I like that, man. Okay, I like that. That answer from Daniel Dubbo. Like, yeah, no, we're not here talking about the low blow.
Starting point is 00:58:15 We're not here to worry about what he did or didn't do and the rule set and all that. We're here for this fight. That, okay, that's a strong, confident answer. All right, Dubois, we like that. How do you stop Daniel from enjoying it? It was wonderful. I'm going to say, it would be noirno. Your performance will be wonderful.
Starting point is 00:58:42 Yeah. Are you still very hungry? Yeah, I continue, I continue, feel I hungry for boxing. Training not, training too, but my training, I prepare for this fight 23 years all my life. But boxing is like oxygen for me. Just an interesting answer there. He says that I'm still hungry for boxing. And then he started to be like, training, maybe not.
Starting point is 00:59:22 And then he kind of saved it and was like, well, I've been training for 23 years for this. Boxing is what gets me out of bed. Training, but boxing gets him out of bed. That's a little interesting, right? Because, you know, they go hand in hand. You have to sacrifice for however many months your life, potentially, you know, time with your family, all this other stuff to train. And let's be honest.
Starting point is 00:59:46 I can't speak for professionals, but when I had my little rinky dink fight, I hated training. I only trained for like a month or so. And I couldn't stand it, right? I could not stand how tired I was all the time, how irritable I was, how just, it's what it does to you. Boxing is a very hard sport to train, but the payoff is the fight. And Usik is, in my opinion, they're saying, yeah, you know, I'm not as in love with training anymore as maybe I was when I was younger, I still love boxing. Does that mean he didn't commit as hard to this training camp?
Starting point is 01:00:20 Or, you know, I don't know. But it's an interesting answer because, as we all know, we don't think Usig has many fights left. Like Barker said earlier, he's 38. Coming off two big 12-round fights. I don't know. But that's just an interesting way for him to phrase it. I'm not in love with training anymore,
Starting point is 01:00:36 or at least not as much as I was, but boxing is like air to me. It's like oxygen. I don't have an effect. We'll see. Just being more aggressive this time. Being more offensive, letting the hands go. being dominant on the front foot.
Starting point is 01:00:48 Is that how you plan on Yeah Tackling this fight? Yeah And are you prepared for anything that Daniel brings your way? Yes, of course. Listen, it's a young guy. This guy wanna take my belt. I not want to give my belt.
Starting point is 01:01:18 Listen, Listen, Du Bois, I mean, Darren really kind of answered the question for Dubois, but yeah, that's the right attitude to have. You have to be able to throw the kitchen sink at Usik. You need to go forward. You need to be aggressive. Daniel Dubois is talking about bringing chaos to the ring. All that is great, but you still have to maintain some semblance of caution with Alexander Usik.
Starting point is 01:01:37 Not to say you shouldn't go and pressure him and go and put it on him and really try to walk him down and bully him a bit. I think that's the right game plan. I think that's what Daniel Du Bois has to do and not get behind the eight ball with Usik trying to walk him down, but you can't do it recklessly, or at least not for long. Derek Chazora tried that, and eventually it was found out, right? Like, people say that was one of the toughest fights for Usik at heavyweight, but eventually Usik found it and was able to put it on Derek and win that fight.
Starting point is 01:02:02 So I don't like the just go out on my shield type of strategy here for Dubois, or, you know, we got to get it done early before Usik starts ramping up. I don't like that because you're going to be in for a long time. It's going to be tough to catch Usik the way you caught Anthony Joshua, because I don't know what the Joshua was doing in that fight. Just defense was out the window. Usik's going to be,
Starting point is 01:02:23 as Tyson Fury calls him, he's a rabbit. He's going to be tough to catch, right? So like I said, all that's the right idea. From Daniel Dubois. You better have some sort of caution, some sort of mind to,
Starting point is 01:02:31 here comes the counterpunch. Because if you walk on to one, that can change the fight too. If you win this fight Saturday night, will we see you in the ring again? Or not if? When? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:49 And what would it mean? to be the first British four-belt, undisputed heavyweight champion of the world? The best of this, of my era. Right, Alexander, tell Daniel how you beat him on Saturday night. We will see it since Saturday. Yeah?
Starting point is 01:03:12 Yeah. A master class? Of course. Same for you, Daniel. Chaos. Does this fight go to distance? in your opinion. It's chaos.
Starting point is 01:03:22 For as long as it lasts. Yeah. All right, there it is. Now listen, neither guy is a picture of Daniel. Neither guy is a wordsmith, right? And we don't expect them to be. That's not what sells this fight. What sells this fight are these three words,
Starting point is 01:03:39 undisputed heavyweight championship. This is the baddest man in boxing right here. The winner of this fight is the baddest boxer on the planet. And that's kind of what we got here. You didn't get any sort of like circus cell or, any kind of like either guy being outside of themselves to try to sell a fight. What sells it is the goal. The intensity is there.
Starting point is 01:04:00 Du Bois keeps bringing up chaos. I need to bring chaos to this fight. And I like the idea of it. Honestly, I do. I like the idea of shaking things up. And you can't fall into the same things that Joshua did twice. That Tyson Fury did twice with trying to, you know, box with Alexander Usik exclusively, especially if you're going to let him walk forward and take center of the ring.
Starting point is 01:04:21 It's not going to happen. But you also can't get reckless, right, when you are coming forward because Usik is still such a tactician, and he's deadly accurate. And if I'm going to give a prediction right now, because it's two days away from the fight, I am going to go with Usik. I do think Usik wins this fight potentially via decision. I think this one's going to be a little bit of a tougher fight for Usik and a closer fight than the first one. And the first one was a close fight. I still think Dubois has more than just a chance of winning this fight. I think that Dubois, I mean, maybe it's 6040, maybe 70, 30, but I think he's, you know,
Starting point is 01:04:51 He's got some real skill. We all know that Ussick doesn't like body punching. Not to say that he would have been stopped by the body punch that Du Bois hit him with in the first fight. But if you get to his body, he doesn't like it. We've seen it in so many different fights. He doesn't react well. Joshua got to him and he turned and looked at the referee. Like that'll be a massive factor here if Du Bois can get to his body early,
Starting point is 01:05:10 drop the hands and then bring the hammer behind it up top. I still think that Ucic is a spry 38. I think his footwork's going to be key here because Du Bois is going to try to come forward and push him back and pressure him and bully him. think Usik using the entirety of the ring, kind of like he did against Derek Chazora is going to be a major factor. You can even look at this fight as potentially, you know, a very similar fight to the Ussick-Dar-Chisora fight, except Dubois is a lot better than Chisora is. He's not as clunky. He's not as stiff and he's not as sloppy. And that's what makes this interesting.
Starting point is 01:05:40 If he's really going to bring that chaos, be on the front foot, trying to walk Ussick down and have violence in his hands to the body and upstairs, great combo puncher is Daniel Dubois. shit, as I'm saying it, I'm kind of wanting to change my pick, but I'll stay with Usik and I'll say either by decision or potentially another late stoppage when things go awry for Daniel Dubois. If Usick's able to get that ball rolling downhill again, what does the mindset of Dubois do in the latter half of that fight? But regardless, it's a great fight.
Starting point is 01:06:11 And I'm going to be live once again this Saturday for this fight all the way through the end of Mani Pachial Mario Barrios and UFC 318. It'll probably be like a 12-hour stream. I want to see you guys there. As far as what happens in the fight itself, my pick, Usik by decision. But I don't have those answers. Undisputed heavyweight championship on the line this Saturday.
Starting point is 01:06:33 Will it be Usik or Dubois? Guess we'll find out. All right, so we were back on the way concept presented by the Ring Magazine and Alexander Usik just dominated. Daniel Dubois, right? The second time he's done that. And this time he did it in even better fashion. has cleared out the heavyweight division after clearing out to cruiserweight division now three times
Starting point is 01:06:56 undisputed once at cruiserweight twice at heavyweight and i'm feeling the need to say something controversial is it recency bias maybe but it's just what i think it's a crazy statement here it comes i think alexander usick is not only an all-time great he may be the greatest heavyweight boxer ever what do i mean the breakdown let's go so like i said alexander usick is alexander usick Daniel Dubois just wrapped up two days in Wembley stadium in front of how many 90,000 people. Dubois's backyard. Ussick comes over to the UK again, gets the job done, and honestly this time made it look easier than he did the first time.
Starting point is 01:07:35 And he stopped Daniel Dubois the first fight as well. Obviously the controversy, low blow, whatever, stopped him with the jab the first time. This time does it even quicker and even easier. And it was really just based on the fact that Ucic is just. that good. Daniel Dubois had a good game plan. Listen, they wanted to bully Usik. I did new. That's all you heard all week from Dubois. He was confident. He was going to create chaos in his words. He was going to come in and wreak havoc, right? Be an unstoppable bulldozer. And he tried. At points in this fight, especially early on, he tried. He tried to get in Usik's face. He tried to
Starting point is 01:08:13 rough him up. He tried to land the right hand and tried to get there with the jab. The problem is, under Usik has feet and movement and timing and distance control that heavyweight maybe has never seen, at least hasn't seen for a very long time. He put Daniel Dubois in a blender in this fight. When Dubois thought he had Usik trapped in corners early on, Usik would hit him with the lead hand, sting him, not just a jab to fine range, but sting him with the jab in circle. When Dubois thought the time was to throw the right hand and catch Usik slipping, He kind of did. Usoc would slip that right hand and bang the left cross behind it
Starting point is 01:08:54 and hurt Daniel Dubois in that case as well. Everything Daniel Dubois wanted to do, Usik had an answer for, throughout the fight. There were moments Daniel Dubois had where he was able to corner Usoc and really throw some punches that potentially could hurt him. A right hand here or there. Maybe a shot to the body.
Starting point is 01:09:12 Ironically enough, there was another low blow or at least beltline shot, but Usoc didn't hit the ground or he didn't wallow around. He just took it and kept. fighting and Daniel Dubois just did not have an answer for Alexander Usik in this fight and he really just didn't have the tools for Alexander Usik and that's the big difference. Usik at heavyweight is showing the real disparity in skill at this weight class. Like Tyson Fury is the next best thing to him and
Starting point is 01:09:37 trust me those two fights were close but Usick has figured Tyson Fury out at least from what I saw in the first fight to the second fight Usik has his number. Usik has power in his left hand he walked Fury into. They wanted to move more in the second fight and Usik outboxed him. He outboxed the best heavyweight actual sized heavyweight boxer there is right now. He dealt with the two biggest power punchers
Starting point is 01:09:59 with a little bit of skill at heavyweight so he can box you when he needs to. He can sit down on his power when he needs to and he has the total package. He had it at Cruiserweight and he's brought it to heavyweight and that's kind of been the meta. I mean, Evander Holyfield came from Cruiserweight. He was undisputed there, came up.
Starting point is 01:10:16 So that has been the meta guys that are smaller. that can move can take advantage of these slow, stagnant, stiff heavyweights, but Ussick's been able to do it in an era with Tyson Fury. Who's the mover? Whose feet move like a cruiserweight, but he's 6-9-270. Usuk's like real cool. Hold these two losses. So he's done that, and he's taking care of the big bad wolves at heavyweight,
Starting point is 01:10:35 the big punchers, the A.Js, the Dubois. After Dubois beats A.J. This, to me, is starting to solidify why he's one of the greatest, if not the greatest heavyweights ever. No, he's not in a heavyweight, name-dominant era, right? He isn't in the era of Mike Tyson or Lennox Lewis or Evander Holyfield. But when you look at those matchups on paper, Usick's skill set matches up favorably.
Starting point is 01:10:57 Maybe Mike Tyson in his prime with his footwork and his speed and his explosivity could match up well with Usik. Maybe Lennox Lewis with the big three. His jab, his right hand, and his left hook could match up well. But you still got to bring your feet. You can't just reach because today Daniel Dubois reached and got taught. What was wrong with all of that? Every time he tried to walk and kind of plot forward on Usik
Starting point is 01:11:21 and lunge out with that right hand and reaching on that front foot, overstepping, unbalanced. Usik would slip outside the right hand and club him with the left one. He dropped him. I think it was in the fourth round with a right hook, set up off the left hand. Dubois hit the canvas.
Starting point is 01:11:36 I don't even know if it was the next round. I've seen so many fights today. But one of the next exchanges they had, he caught DuBois, the big-time shot, right hand, dropped him. Dubois got back to his feet, and then Dubois made a terrible mistake. He actually made the same mistake that Anthony Joshua made when Dubois was fighting him. Go back to the Dubois Anthony Joshua fight.
Starting point is 01:11:53 Joshua started to trade when he was hurt. When you're out on your feet and you're not making decisions well and your corner's already told you need to be aggressive and he's already dropped you once and you're not feeling like this is going your way and you're throwing freaking hell Marys and Usik is calm, collected. Swinging that lead arm right out in front of you like it's a freaking elephant trunk
Starting point is 01:12:13 and he's fainting and he just drops that nuclear left hand. on Dubois and he even called it. It was a little different than what he normally throws. Usik has three levels of left hand or backhand that he throws. He throws the straight back hand. He throws the backhand hook and he calls that the, I think he said the Ivan punch, the chopping overhand left that kind of goes knuckle down essentially around your guard
Starting point is 01:12:37 and sticks right on the temple. He actually caught Dubois on the chin with it. The mouthpiece goes flying and that's all she wrote. Usik by stoppage. No debate, no controversy, just another dominant win at heavyweight for Alexander Usik. And the question now you have is who can beat him? Who? He's 38 years old. We just saw Mani Pachiao at 46 years old.
Starting point is 01:13:05 School in the new school of lower weight class boxers. Usik could potentially do this for two or three more years. You have Joseph Parker who rightfully should get the next shot at heavyweight. Tyson Fury piped up on. on Twitter, he wants the trilogy. No one wants to see that. It doesn't make sense to give him the trilogy. It should go to Joseph Parker. You have Cabell waiting in the wings there. People think he's going to be something special, but I just look at the landscape and I see Usik beating him all, which is why I came with the crazy take at the start of this video, which was he might
Starting point is 01:13:37 be the greatest of all time. If he's not already, he's going to be by the time he retires, unless somebody like Jay Opataya comes up. And the way Opataya likes to trade, Usik, probably get him. So I don't know. I'm making a lot of generalizations and assumptions right now, but if you look through the history of heavyweight boxing, you're not going to find as many movers, at least good footwork for the size they're at that Ussick is. You might look to a Muhammad Ali, for example, and that would be a good matchup. Again, you look to Mike Tyson, who is a speed and explosive move, whereas Usoc is very relaxed. It's composed, and the movement has a purpose, but it's not super explosive. It almost lulls you to sleep before the cobra strikes, not Carl Frotch. No reference
Starting point is 01:14:24 there, Cobra. But yeah, the point is, again, maybe I'm being, maybe it's recency bias. Maybe I'm being a little too generous to Alexander Usik, but when you are two times undisputed without ever losing, meaning they took your belt off you just because you didn't defend a mandatory. The guy that won it, you came back after you'd already beaten him, you beat him again and made it look easier the second time. When you were the old man, The 38 and all this. The only issue I can think of is that his era of heavyweight won't be looked at as a great heavyweight era, which will penalize him. But you'll have to go to the 90s to look at a quote-unquote great heavyweight era.
Starting point is 01:15:00 And I think that Ussick has the skills and the tools to beat them. You can go to the 80s, the 70s, the 60s. There's not going to be many guys that you can put on that list. And again, bring the Muhammad Ali comparisons and the Mike Tyson's and even the Klitschko brothers, two other great Ukrainians in their prime or the Lennox Lewis is like you're going to have people the Larry Holmes you're going to have people that are good at what they do but Usik almost has every single skill set he has the feet he has the power he has the volume he has the accuracy he can set up and deliver he can fight out the front foot he can fight off the back foot he can get stronger
Starting point is 01:15:37 as the fight goes on he can start quick there are things that make him so special that I just haven't seen it, the heavier weight classes in a very long time. And I don't know if he's getting the credit he deserves because he's not the greatest talker in English isn't his first language, and he's not very extravagant or flamboyant. But again, maybe I'm just being a bit of a recency bias merchant. Maybe it's not as big a deal as I'm making it. And maybe Ussick still has a lot left to prove.
Starting point is 01:16:04 I don't see anyone stopping him soon. Joseph Parker's the next guy. Bring him in. I don't think that one goes different. Usik wants to fight Tyson Fury. I heard him say that name in the ring in a trilogy. Bring that in, I guess. Then Jake Paul decided he was going to pop up
Starting point is 01:16:18 and do a face-to-face with Alexander Usik. And then you learn on Twitter after that that it's because Jake wants to fight him in an MMA match. That might be the only thing that Usik can't be the greatest at at this point. But I don't know anything about that. I don't know why they had Jake face off against Usik. It was a weird look after he defends the undisputed heavyweight championship.
Starting point is 01:16:37 But then again, Jake wants to fight AJ and apparently that might actually happen sooner than we think, potentially 2026. I'm doing a video on that tomorrow. But the point is, I just don't know if I see Alexander Usik losing. For the foreseeable future. As long as he wants to continue being world champion,
Starting point is 01:16:53 I think he will be world champion. Now, you still have to fight the fights and it's a heavyweight, one punch can change everything. Next up should be Joseph Parker. Point blank period. It should have been him to begin with, but it's now definitely should be him. And I'll see where he goes from there
Starting point is 01:17:06 because you have, like I said, Kabiel, you have potentially if Fury and AJ would actually fight like everybody and their mothers in existence want to happen in heavyweight boxing, then you would actually have a reason for Tyson Fury or AJ to get a third fight with Usik. Because as it sits right now, there is no purpose for Usik to do a trilogy with two guys that he already beat twice. Do we realize how insane that is? He beat everybody and then lapped the division like they were on flat tires and a NASCAR race.
Starting point is 01:17:36 And one of them was Tyson Fury. It was supposed to have been this generation's great heavyweight. Lusick was like, cool, here's my undisputed cruiser weight belts. Don't want that anymore. I want to go up there and take his belts. And Joshua's belts. And Dubois's belts. I'll take them all.
Starting point is 01:17:48 Thank you. He's actually incredible. And yeah, it's just insane to see that level of skill at 38. The precision. The fight was never in doubt. He took care of business. And that was a motivated coming off a three-fight win streak, Daniel Dubois. And he just shut him down completely.
Starting point is 01:18:05 Listen, Dubois is by no means done. 27 years old, still so young. But I just don't know if Dubois has the skills right now. He needs to go back to work. I will say this. Again, controversial take maybe. I saw it on Twitter. Turk Al-Ashek is saying he wants the young prospect, Moses Atalma, to fight Alexander Usik.
Starting point is 01:18:22 I say that's a little too early. But in a year to a year and a half's time, because number one, Atalma has a fight versus Dillion White. I think he wins that fight. But, you know, let's get through that. But a year to a year and a half down the line. 21, 22 year old Moses Atama, give him three more fights,
Starting point is 01:18:41 including the Dillian White fight, get him some tough competition, really put him against it. Comes through that, ladies and gentlemen, we have a fight. Because I'm not going to lie, I would love to see Moses of Talma
Starting point is 01:18:53 get fast-tracked, get put, not in easy fights to get him a title fight, but get him in some real competitive fights. Start with Dillian White and move him from there to get him some experience and put him in a position
Starting point is 01:19:05 to potentially be that person. That could footwork for footwork, skill for skill, maybe be the answer to the Ussick problem. But as of right now, there isn't one. And I don't foresee one being the case. Even Moses and Talma, it's a long way away. Right now Ussick rules the roost and maybe it's recency bias, but he might be the greatest, not only of this generation,
Starting point is 01:19:28 but of all time. You disagree? Let me know in the comments down below, but what a performance today? Domination! As he knocks out Daniel Dubois for the second time, He's running laps around the heavyweight scene. Who's going to stop him? I don't have that answer.
Starting point is 01:19:40 So, I guess we'll find out. All right, so we are back on the way concept presented by the Ring Magazine. And folks, I just watched Manny Pachial. That's right, eight division world champion and 46 year old Manny Pachial off a three-year layoff Manny Pachial, off a loss before the three-year layoff Manny Pachial. go to a majority draw with a world champion in a title fight in 2025. What the f f f just happened? The breakdown, let's go.
Starting point is 01:20:20 So like I said, Manny Paciow, 2025 fighting for a world championship is not something you expect me to hear. Number one, especially off the three-year layoff, especially at 147, especially off a loss, and especially not going to a majority draw. This is a win. For Manny Pack, y'all, I'm just going to say it tonight. He fought Mario Barrios on PBC, on Amazon Prime Video, for the WBC World Championship.
Starting point is 01:20:48 Mario Barrios, I like the guy. But it has to be said when you have two of your last title defenses ending in a split draw and a majority draw, you may be the worst title holder in boxing right now. I'm sorry. That's not comparing him to being a shitty boxer. It's just saying that as of right now, he might be the worst world champion in boxing. It may be one of the worst I've seen in a while. Also, kind of unrelated, this kind of looks bad for Tank Davis's record, because that was supposed to be a stalwart win on Tank's career
Starting point is 01:21:21 when he moved up to 140 and beat Barrios for the belt there. But now it's not looking so good because 46-year-old Mani Pachiao. Just went to a majority draw, and you can argue that Mani Pachio should have won the fight. was winning up until the later rounds. Let's talk about it. So like I said, Mani Pachial off the three-year layoff. 46 didn't look great against Ugas in his last one. You had to think, okay, well, Varios beat Ugas kind of decisively. This is going to go one way and one way only. Barrios, potentially by stoppage or decision. That's not what happened. Barrios was so tentative in this fight. He was essentially standing there for some of the exchanges. Mani Pachial came out and did what
Starting point is 01:22:01 Mani Pachial does. By the way, credit to Mani at 46, he still had some feet. He was moving, dancing on Mario Barrios. He was throwing combination punches going forward on Mario Barrios. And when he wasn't doing that, he was countering Mario Barrios, who looked like a stick in the mud. He looked like he couldn't even get out of first gear because Mani was hitting with combinations. Were they hurting super bad? Maybe not. Some of them definitely were. Had a mouse under the eye of Mario Barrios. But other than... were just flurries and they were keeping barrios at bay and when barrios was throwing one pack yow was throwing three when barrios would throw out his jab manny would counter with his lead
Starting point is 01:22:40 right hand stepping on the inside plane doing all the old manny shit it was pretty cool to see and honestly even with the majority draw it's a win for manny because damn if he can do that off a three year layoff at 46 that's that's pretty telling for one where the sport of boxing is when your world champ can't beat 46 year old politician manny pack yow but two jr. just how great he was. Eight Division World Champion started his career at 106, I think, comes up to 147. What are we talking about?
Starting point is 01:23:09 But yeah, in this fight, it was crazy to see. Man, he still had some feet. He still had some pop in his hands. He still had the combinations. He still had the variety. There were points in this fight, especially early on, where Barrios just looked so tentative and almost looked like he was overthinking
Starting point is 01:23:26 what was pretty simple if he just threw his hands. if he just put together some combinations and was the bully in there to a much smaller, much more fragile Manny Pachial than he maybe even could have stopped Manny but for sure could have put him on the back foot for sure could have stopped a lot of the combinations
Starting point is 01:23:43 and for sure would not have gone to a majority draw. In the corner between rounds you're hearing Bob Santos, his head coach, telling Mario Barrios, stop giving him so much fucking respect. Do not respect him. Go out there and execute. and it was just like a block in Barrios's mind.
Starting point is 01:24:02 Granted, some of that is because Paci out was feigning and giving him some different looks and level changing and getting to his body and following up with the left hand upstairs. But that was also because of Barrios' hesitation. Every time Mani went forward, barrios would stand there flat foot at High Guard and just take punishment. It was bizarre to watch because you're holding the WBC belt.
Starting point is 01:24:23 This shouldn't have even been sanctioned, to be honest, in the first place. But it's an indictment at the highest level of welterweight when Duran Boots Ennis is not involved. Honestly, because that right there is rough to watch. If you're a Barrios fan. If you're a Manny Pacquiao fan, this is a fantastic night. And you can even argue, maybe he should have got the belt. But I think where this fight became more close was in the later rounds
Starting point is 01:24:46 when Paciow, obviously, close to being an AARP member, was going to slow down. And if your game plan, if you're Mario Barrios says to go, okay, I'm just going to outlast him eventually he's going to slow down. One, it's psychotic to me to even think I'll wait for the 46-year-old to slow down in the later rounds. Not I'm going to go and do what I should do as a champion and go after this guy. Respect be damned.
Starting point is 01:25:08 It's a world championship fight. I saw some people saying, oh, he's carrying Manny out of respect. Excuse me? That's a sitting world champion. Your respect for Manny means you give him the same treatment you give anybody else coming for the belt. And again, Mario is coming off a split draw on his last fight, so it kind of makes sense.
Starting point is 01:25:24 This is the performance he'd have. But yeah, this was just not a great. a great night for Mario Barrios. Like the worst way you want to retain your belt by doing the least amount possible offensively. I saw them say he was throwing like 400 punches. I don't know where the stats from PBC came from, but I did not see him throwing 400, 500 punches
Starting point is 01:25:41 unless they were like tippy tap little touch punches. But nothing to get Mani to stop a forward onslaught in the middle rounds. It was like rounds one and two, Mani. Three barrios. Maybe four and five, Mani took his foot off the gas a little bit. but still probably won one of those. Then Manny comes back in round six and has new life. Seven and eight look like they're also going Manny's way.
Starting point is 01:26:05 So Barios needs to start really ramping things up in 9 through 12. And while he didn't ramp things up, Manny eventually tired. And Barios was able to just take care of dead space because, well, Manny wasn't throwing and Barios wasn't throwing. So he might as well throw his combinations then. But it took until the 10th round to really see Mario Barios come out of first gear. and really see him try to go after and throw some combination punches at Manny Pachial. Again, credit to Manny, he was able to stick in there when some of those shots looked like
Starting point is 01:26:36 they could have put him out. He got hit with some hooks and some right hands that kind of made him do a little bit of the jumping rabbit dance. But eventually he found his way through it. And he found his way to a decision here. And even in the last few moments of the fight, Manny still had those veteran tendencies. At the last points of all the rounds, really, he would find ways to either steal rounds or look good on the judge's scorecard.
Starting point is 01:26:55 And yeah, some of that was going to be swayed by the, crowd, right? Of course, man, he was going to have a ton of supporters. So anything he threw, if it even looked like it landed, they were going to go crazy. And I kind of half expected for many to get that reception to a fault. But ironically, he was actually landing. He was actually throwing punches that were landing flush on Mario Barrios that were getting those reactions. It was, it was beautiful to watch him go back to the corner and Freddie Roach, give him instruction and him come out like a freaking bat out of hell and go after Barrios. It was awesome to watch on that front. But then you have to cope with the realization that he just did that to a sitting world champion.
Starting point is 01:27:29 And I don't really know which one to feel better or worse about. Do I feel great that Manny still is as great at 46 years old? He may not be as great as he was, but he's still showing these young bupps how it's done. Or am I a little bit embarrassed that the sport has regressed to a sitting world champion being that bad that he has a majority draw with a 46-year-old man off a three-year layoff? I don't know. But I will say it was fun to watch, Manny. As much as I was against the fight happening and going, man, man, he's 46, this is dangerous.
Starting point is 01:28:00 And I guess literally anybody else holding that belt, it probably would have been far more dangerous. But Barrios couldn't get out of first gear and Mandy showed up in shape, ready to fight, as in shape as he could be at 46. His calves look like most people's quad muscles, for God's sakes. He was bouncing around. It was incredible. So that part of it I was super pumped about and it did give you a feeling of like, you know, for people like myself that maybe didn't appreciate Mani. Being a smaller guy, even though he did, was an eight division world champion,
Starting point is 01:28:27 maybe didn't get to see some of his best moments until later on after the fight. To see him live, do that at his age, you get a bit of an appreciation for how great he was just by seeing how good he is right now. And I think that's something special. And the kids that are younger than me that are watching this sport and never got to see him any Pacquiao fight, getting to see him and understand why they're parents, whether they're, you know, Filipino or just fans of, of,
Starting point is 01:28:50 boxing in general. We're so pro-Many. We're such big Manny fans. That's a cool moment. Um, but yeah, I don't really know how that happened. Again, other than just Mario Barrios just really bottling it tonight and Manny's showing up way better than Barios either thought or was prepared for. And that again, I think is more of an indictment on a world champion that it is Manny Pachiao. Congrats to Manny for going the 12 for getting a majority draw out of it. The way I scored it, Yeah, I could have seen a draw coming because I thought Barrios did come to life finally in round 10, 11, 12. He finally decided to put some offense together. But, you know, honestly, it could have been a draw.
Starting point is 01:29:31 It could have been 7.5. Mani could have been 7.5 Barrios. I don't really care. The fact that it was that close is embarrassing for Barrios, honestly. And again, it's a tribute to how good manny is. But as far as where everybody goes from here, I don't know. I have no idea. I hope Mani is, if he's going to fight again, have it be Floyd Mayweather.
Starting point is 01:29:47 And if that's the case, listen, I'm not going to sit here in life. to you guys and act like I'm not going to watch that fight because I absolutely will. If Floyd still thinks he's got some stuff left in the tank and clearly Manny still does and Floyd's been doing the exhibitions, he's technically kind of been more active than Manny has over the last three years. And I say run it. You know what I'm saying? Someone's going to have a bag out there to throw at both of them.
Starting point is 01:30:07 And it's better than sticking, well, listen, maybe Floyd comes back and fights Barios because he saw how good Manny did against him. I don't know. But it's better than trying to stick either of them in with real dangerous world-level competition that isn't barrios because i think that was a one-off i don't think you stick manny in there with the fucking heavy hitters at 47 i mean for god's sakes can we imagine many pack yos gets stuck in there with with uh jerom boots in us before he moved to 54 can we imagine right Brian norman junior for god's sakes devon hayney you know so it's like no let's not do that let's have manny and
Starting point is 01:30:42 floyd if they're going to do it i don't even care if it's a exhibition or pro who cares Floyd's not going to do a pro fight because of the undefeated record, but I'll watch it. Watching Mani look as good as he looked. I'm sold. If you want to do Floyd and Mani, I'm on board. I'm watching that shit. Now, Mario Barrios, I do not care. There's got to be something he needs to do better as a world champion holding the WBC belt.
Starting point is 01:31:03 Your last two fights and your two title defenses have been split draw and majority draw against two people that you should not be going to draws with. Abel Ramos is 26 and 28 and 6 fighting for a world title after going to two. and three to get to the belt. Manny is three years off coming off a loss, 46 years old, at a weight class he shouldn't even be at, and he takes you to a draw. There needs to be some big changes for Mario Barrios, is the point. So I'm not really sure what to do with him next. But that was special to watch. A moment in time that I will not forget, mainly because of Mani, but partly because of just, wow, Mario, Marios, Jesus. But anyway, like I said,
Starting point is 01:31:38 I think that Manny and Floyd, at this point, I'm sold. Go ahead. Do it. Do it this year. I'm not sure where, I'm not sure how, but somebody is going to do it. The rematch, even if it is an exhibition, I'll watch it. But as far as what happens next for Barrios, I don't know. All I'll say is only in 2025. In this simulation, in this multiverse that we live in, can Manny Pachial walk back into the sport of boxing at 46, off the layoff, off the loss, and almost become world title. Be one, maybe two rounds away from becoming world champion. That is crazy.
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