The Herd with Colin Cowherd - THE W.A.D.E. Concept - WEEK IN REVIEW - JAKE PAUL VS AJ PRESS CONFERENCE MADNESS, RING IV INTERVIEWS AND FIGHT NIGHT BREAKDOWN!!

Episode Date: November 23, 2025

In this weeks WEEK IN REVIEW, Wade interviews both Devin Haney and David Benavidez ahead of their fights on the Ring IV. Breaksdown Jake Paul's delusion ahead of the Anthony Joshua fight, how their pr...ess conference woke up a beast within AJ and how Benavidez DESTROYED Yarde..  0:00 JAKE PAUL VS AJ CONFIRMED 19:53 DEVIN HANEY INTERVIEW 36:02 DAVID BENAVIDEZ INTERVIEW 59:28 JAKE PAUL IS DELUSIONAL  1:25:08 JAKE PAUL VS AJ PRESS CONFERENCE 2:05:54 RING IV BREAKDOWN #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:05:03 Thank you to first form for sponsoring this video and keeping me in great shape, feeling good, and wanting to continue on my fitness journey. Now, let's get back to the breakdown. All right, folks, like I said, Jake Paul Anthony Joshua, it's official. Jake posting this on Twitter this morning. Yes, it's real.
Starting point is 00:05:20 Jake Paul versus Anthony Joshua will go head to head in a pro heavyweight fight live only on Netflix, Friday, December. 19th. They got the hashtag ready. Here's the poster. And even in the poster, you can see this is a David and Goliath story here. I mean, there's times where I thought Jake is
Starting point is 00:05:38 a cruiserweight. There's times where I thought even he could be a light heavyweight. And now he's stepping in with one of the most chiseled, bonafide heavyweights in the world right now in Anthony Joshua. And while you may think this matchup is a monstrosity, I think the real monstrosity is the fact that they spelled judgment wrong. Someone's getting judged for that. Now, you see the details in the poster. It is in Kasea Center.
Starting point is 00:05:58 In Miami, this was the location for Jake Paul versus Gervante Davis. They're going to keep everything the same. They're going to keep the date the same. Time, Netflix. They're changing out the opponent. And obviously, they're changing out the rules. First, Jake, Tank Davis, exhibition. No, serie.
Starting point is 00:06:13 You're not seeing that this time around. And this is why I think Jake has gigantic fucking balls because the rule set is as follows. Jake Paul is actually fighting former heavyweight champion, Anthony Joshua, in 10-ounce gloves, in a professional bout, eight rounds, three minute rounds each, and there is a weight limit. And that's only for Anthony Joshua, but there is a weight limit.
Starting point is 00:06:35 And there's a quote here from Anthony Joshua. I'm about to break the internet over Jake Paul's face. I'm not sure if that makes any sense, but it sounds fucking demented, terrifying, and just in the same tone I would want AJ to take this fight. Being there playing no games, wanting to knock Jake Spark out El Sparco. Coal because that is what makes Jake Paul or any other fights interesting a level of danger that we believe a level of of
Starting point is 00:07:03 Competition that we want to see and the details like I said fire me up. It's a professional bout this is going on people's records AJ got to take him serious because this isn't some exhibition or running out some judges to act like there's a Decision and someone won no someone's gonna win someone's gonna lose here. It's eight rounds three minute rounds again heavy weight pro bout 10 ounce gloves a AJ talking about breaking internet over faces. I think he meant to say breaking his face on the internet. Who knows? Maybe you can do both in the big 2025. But then you have the weight limit. 245 pounds and people are automatically going to go, oh God, here's the thing. Oh, here's the thing in the contract. No, stop all that. And I'm going to go on a rant in a second. For all the people that thought this was fake, for all the people that thought that Jake wouldn't do this, for all the people that thought he was scared.
Starting point is 00:07:49 I'm going to go on that rant in a second. But, okay, yes, 245 is a weird number because Jake has already fought at heavyweight. Tyson at 220-something. But again, I understand it a little bit. We're on short notice here. You don't want to have a Tyson Fury type situation, which AJ would never be $2.90 coming in here. But 260, 270, it starts to get out of the realm of possibility of like, what are we doing here? Even though heavyweight has no limit, I get it. Because AJ has fought at this weight multiple times before. And they're trying to create a similar, at least size matchup to Anthony Joshua and Alexander Usik. And we go back to the 2022 rematch.
Starting point is 00:08:21 Usik weighed in at 221.5. Anthony Joshua weighed in at 2.45, or at least 244.5. Now, this is interesting because it was heavier than the first time they fought. Because in the first time they fought, AJ was 240. Now, again, you see kind of the size they want to replicate. They want to replicate the size of Ussk in this second and first fight, and they want to replicate AJ's size in those fights as well. I thought AJ fought very well the second time around,
Starting point is 00:08:46 better than maybe people remember. And this is why this should not be a competitive fight regardless of that weight or anything else. I mean, look at this picture right here. I know things have changed since this time period. But this was in 2017. AJ was the heavyweight world champion. Jake was on red carpets for bazaard varks on the Disney channel. Looking like every fuckboy that came out of the Vine era.
Starting point is 00:09:09 This shouldn't be the reality that we're living in. Now, I've sat here and I've asked myself over and over and over, you know, what's the upside for Jake here? What's the upside? Because he can make money with everybody, right? Jake can make money fighting Jervante Davis. He can make money fighting freaking Ryan Borland and Andre, August. He can make money fighting Mike Tyson and Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. And I'm just asking myself,
Starting point is 00:09:29 what, what, stop asking me 267 million. Okay, yeah. If that, if that's a real number, there's no context there. I don't know if that's referring to something else, but if Jake is getting paid, $267 million for this fight, I mean, this is Floyd Mayweather, Kahn and Greger territory, without pay-per-view. This is Floyd Mayweather, Many-Pakial territory. again, without it being pay-per-view. That can't be the number. Now, there's also this message from Jake that was on Sky Sports.
Starting point is 00:10:01 We're going to look at a sky sports interview in just a second. Jake said, to all my haters, this is what you wanted. To the people of the United Kingdom, I'm sorry. On Friday, December 19, under the lights in Miami, live globally on Netflix,
Starting point is 00:10:15 the torch gets passed and Britain's Goliath gets put to sleep. Again, I told you guys he wanted this. I told you he'd be confident in it. Hell, I was on a misfit show a couple of months ago, and I told you guys that I thought Jake was crazy enough to believe himself when he said, I'm going to go out and knock out AJ. I want the AJ fight. I believe he meant it because I know how insane this dude is, how his brain has probably been altered from his time and boxing and he's making decisions like this. You don't have to believe me. Jake Paul's biggest op. KSI is even saying it. Like, all right, dude, fair enough. Because you can't hate this kind of level of, again, ballsy attitude, maybe psychotic delusion. inflated ego, whatever is making Jake take this fight. And I don't think it's healthy for him at all. I think this is going to be one-way traffic.
Starting point is 00:11:00 I think AJ is going to hurt him very badly. And speaking of, the insanity of this thing, here is what the first line is. Jake, as a plus 800, I have a feeling that's going to shift even more toward AJ at minus 1,500. Because again, how could you even see Jake winning this fight? Where is the possibility for Jake to actually get it done? I mean, look at this picture from them playing paintball a couple of years ago, I guess? or I don't know if it was paintball, but some sort of like, some sort of Aerosov gunfighting,
Starting point is 00:11:27 but look at the difference in the size. And I get it, you know, size doesn't just win fights, but A.J. doesn't just have the size. He is more experienced at the highest level. He has fought guys that are smaller than him and are more experienced and better than Jake is. Again, Alexander Usik twice. What better experience? I know Ussick is Southpaw, but what better experience to get you prepared to fight a smaller guy than to fight the best, smallest guy coming up to heavyweight in Usoc,
Starting point is 00:11:52 that you could find. Yes, AJ is ploddy and he's maybe a little stiff and maybe his chin is not what it used to be, but that's still Anthony Joshua. So Nekisa Baderion did an interview with Sky Sports, Jake Paul's manager and co-founder of MVP. He had some things to say about the fight. Obviously, they're going to do a massive press tour around this thing. Let's take a look and listen at why Nikisa, maybe a hot take, says that Jake Paul and Anthony Joshua is more winnable for Jake Paul than Jervante Davis would have been. How dangerous is this? for Paul. This is a more dangerous fight than
Starting point is 00:12:25 Durante Tank Davis, but it's a more winnable fight than Durante Tank Davis. Javante was small, fast, super skilled. That is a fucking hot take. I don't know if that's crazy, but it's a hot take. Let's hear his reasoning. Javante was small, fast, super skilled.
Starting point is 00:12:43 Joshua was big, heavy puncher, but not as evasive. So I think if Jake has the right game plan, he has a pretty good shot of winning this fight. crazy. Now first off, you know, a winnable fight with Jervante Davis. It was an exhibition. So, you know, wins and losses, we weren't really going to be able to count there. But saying that it is a risky but more winnable fight, it's so hard to get on board with even the thought of Jake winning this. Like there's only really, I think one, maybe two avenues where Jake possibly can in some way
Starting point is 00:13:13 winning. But when Nekisa says it's a more dangerous but also more winnable, the only thing my mind jumps to is Jake is going to have to stand in front of Anthony Joshua. A literal destroyer at heavyweight, a literal one punch send you to the hospital potentially in your career puncher at heavyweight and take the risk of eating that punch just to land a punch that potentially could knock AJ out. That is why the risk and reward factor I have to think Nikis is talking about there is involved. And you do look at guys like Andy Ruiz, guys like Usig that even hurt A's and obviously Daniel Dubois that hurt him badly and put him down. You do ask the question, is AJ's chin just completely gone?
Starting point is 00:13:56 Is that what MVP? Is that what Jake is banking on? The fact that he can touch AJ on the chin and it's been tested so many times that Jake hits hard enough to put him away. That is a fucking down to your last dollar. All in bet on a hand of blackjack down to your last dollar and you're holding a two and a three. You're betting blind with almost no chance and only on hope that you can get this done. That's how it feels. But again, that would be the path. Taking the risk, at least in pockets,
Starting point is 00:14:22 and being in front of AJ, and throwing on throw. I mean, you have to think he's going to have to throw on throw. When AJ throws, Jake's got to be there to counter and hit him in between when AJ's not seeing the punch coming. It has to be it. Every time AJ's been knocked out, that's how it's been. It's been exchanging throw-on throw.
Starting point is 00:14:39 We're going to do an entire breakdown on how this fight's going to go. And again, the easy answer is, this fight's probably just going, to flat out go one way and one way only. AJ's the 18 wheeler going 90 down the straightaway and Jake is in a fucking golf cart going 10 miles an hour headed right back at the 18 wheeler. It's going to be freaking destruction. But anyway, then you have the tale of the tape, the facts. AJ's 36, Jake's 28, which again, I'm tired of hearing about the age thing with Jake. He's getting to be close to 30 now himself. Like we're going to say here, oh, AJ's past his prime.
Starting point is 00:15:15 Don't give me that bullshit. AJ, me. may not be what he was as a sitting world champion, but he is so far from just completely shot. And I swear if I hear any of that this time around, dude, go fuck off. AJ is 6-6-250. Even if AJ just wants to keep him on the end of a jab. Look at the reach. He's got a 6-inch reach on Jake. And trust me, the Chloe concept has told me the 6 inches is more than enough.
Starting point is 00:15:40 Okay? So that's going to be a problem. Again, not even talking about the fact that AJ is more dangerous with just his power, The jab, the reach, the extent, turn over the right hand. He's going to be able to hit Jake at range. Jake can't even hit him. 43 amateur fights, 32 pro fights. He's 28 and 4.
Starting point is 00:15:59 He's an Olympian. He's a gold medalist. He's won the world title. Delusional, yes. Very rich, yes. It's insane. Here's more from the Sky Sports interview with the Giza Bedarian, looking like my man Steve Jobs.
Starting point is 00:16:12 They'll say it's a real mismatch. What would you say to them? Are we going to be what you're? sport at its purest? I would say it's much less of a mismatch than what you saw with AJ and Francis Nanganu, who a massive man, but relatively no boxing experience. I would say it's much less of a mismatch than AJ's ninth or 10th fight against guys who've been knocked out 20 to 25 times, given AJ's pedigree.
Starting point is 00:16:42 Jake is built for this. Jake is built for the big moment. So do I think it's dangerous for Jake Paul? for Jake Paul? Absolutely. Do I think it's also dangerous for Anthony Joshua? 100%. They'll say, gee, I mean, again, that just sounds crazy. It sounds crazy to say, yeah, Jake is dangerous for Anthony Joshua. It sounds stupid. It sounds insane to say that. Hey, AJ might be in trouble here. But again, they're going to fight. And if AJ does come in and just try to walk right over, Jake, I will agree with the key said that it's not as easy as it was with Francis who, I mean, he would jab and there would be no recollection of, oh, there's a right hand coming back,
Starting point is 00:17:19 and AJ would just pull right hand and flatline Francis. Like, Jake will have a better, at least, skill set than Francis and Gano. Now, Jake's size will be nowhere near France. So I don't know about the power that Jake has in his hands to even hurt AJ. I know that he hits hard, but this is a 240-pound heavyweight. This is not the cruiser weights. It's not the 190s. This is not those guys.
Starting point is 00:17:40 And Jake couldn't knock out Mike. That's the other thing we're not talking about. Jake couldn't knock out 58-year-old Mike Tyson, and trust me, he tried. He tried in the first couple of rounds in that fight. And I know that, you know, maybe he had some things going on and had a foot issue or whatever, but, like, he couldn't knock out Mike. He couldn't knock out Tommy Fury. He couldn't beat Tommy.
Starting point is 00:17:57 And I know, again, that was a long time ago in a different way, but Jake hit him with a flush right hand. He hit Tommy Fury with a flush overhand and multiple left hooks. Couldn't hurt him. And if you can't hurt AJ, if you can't get AJ's respect, especially early in this fight, to get him to walk onto something. make him pay for it, it's going to go very badly. Now, can I see a world where AJ walks onto a right hand? Yeah, I can because I've seen him do it before.
Starting point is 00:18:22 Multiple times. When he gets to feeling himself a little bit and walks forward and Jake throws that looking at the floor freaking overhand or jab to the body overhand, I just don't know how many times you get that miracle punch. So if he gets one off, it better be the one that stops the show if Jake even has a remote chance. I'm talking 5% chance to win. It's going to be off one of those hell-marry,
Starting point is 00:18:42 perfect from the God's punches that just rocks AJ AJ walking forward kind of plotty throwing out the jab Jake goes jab to the body overhand over the top It would shock me to no end to watch if AJ were to just
Starting point is 00:18:55 get outboxed by Jake Paul Or again if it was just one of those things where AJ showed up with the weird mindset and fucking didn't perform But here's another Jake Paul message to Anthony Joshua Santa's got one wish for Christmas
Starting point is 00:19:06 What's that? I'm gonna knock Anthony Joshua The fuck out Are you fucking serious? Anthony Joshua, you're a woozy! I'm gonna calm down your chimney, boy. Whop that ass! Hey, y'all, what the f-f-
Starting point is 00:19:20 Oh, okay, also there's this from Logan Paul's, uh, YouTube channel. When you called out Anthony Joshua, were you on cocaine? No, I don't do that dang. But I would have you got some. Why did you do that? To be the heavyweight champion of the world.
Starting point is 00:19:37 His chin's gone. But he's still Anthony Joshua. Which is stiff and no rhythm. No skill, just power. You're serious about fighting him? Jake has to be trolling when he says that Anthony Joshua is stiff with no skill and just power. AJ has skills, dude. AJ is fucking good.
Starting point is 00:19:55 He's not Alexander Usik, and Jake does live in delusional land. He'll even tell you that he's delusional to a degree that pushes him to be great. And I've said this multiple times on my channel. His delusion pushes him to another level that he would never get to if he just thought, oh, I'm a YouTuber. I'm a stay in my YouTuber lane. is not a great boxer, but it pushes him past the barriers that he would have in place to even be where he's at right now, to even have a fight with AJ. But that in no way, shape, or form means
Starting point is 00:20:21 that AJ is unskilled, stiff, no chin, and just power. I'm going to say this. We're in for one of the greatest nights on boxing Twitter because no matter what happens, if we get a stoppage in this fight, really it just doesn't matter what happens. Twitter is going to go crazy. If Jake were to somehow knock out AJ, the entire internet might blow up. If AJ knocks out Jake, they'll hold a celebration like if the devil had passed. Like it's going to be insane. But I think that's it, man. I think that's all we have.
Starting point is 00:20:49 Jake Paul went from 5-5-134 to 6-6-2-45 on the night of the fight. Yeah, just insane, dude. But yeah, that's it. I'm going to tell you guys this. I'm excited, right? Whatever happens in this fight, again, I don't think it's the right decision for Jake's health and well-being. But you have to give him credit for giving us the fans something to be excited about around his fights and something to end off the year of boxing that has been, you know, hitting this,
Starting point is 00:21:14 I would say, with an absolute banger of an event. This is going to be one of the most watched things this year, no doubt about it. But we got to give credit where it's due. Jake's a madman. It doesn't make sense for him. He's potentially going to get ironed out flat, but he's got some big fucking balls. And for him to do this, I got to say, I don't have a hat on, but I tip my hat to you, Jake. This one's a big one. And I think we all have to give up the credit of like, yeah, bro. He's challenged himself and he's putting on a fucking good show for Also, last thing, we had words from AJ, quote, Jake, or anyone can get this work. No mercy.
Starting point is 00:21:45 Oh, my God. Oh, my God. And then he also said, I took some time out, and I'm coming back with a mega show. It's a big opportunity for me, whether you like it or not. I'm just here to do massive numbers, have big fights and break every record whilst keeping cool, calm, and collected. Mark my words. You will see a lot more fighters take these opportunities in the future. I'm about to break the internet over Jake Balls. And then we have, real quick, we do have a press conference.
Starting point is 00:22:09 In, I don't know where, I guess Miami? Yeah, in Miami at the Casaya Center. This Friday, Ariel Hawani hosting, going to be 1 p.m. Eastern, 10 a.m. Pacific. We're going to be breaking that down. We're going to be breaking so much more around this fight down. Stay to and stay locked in. But folks, as we head out, it's fucking real. Jake Paul versus Anthony Joshua, December 19th, Merry fucking Christmas.
Starting point is 00:22:32 What happens in this fight? I think I know. I think AJ destroys it. But I don't have those answers. So, I guess we'll find out. Welcome back to the weight concept presented by The Ring Magazine. Today, I am with the former undisputed, 135-pound champion of the world. He was champion at 140 as well.
Starting point is 00:22:49 That's two weight divisions looking for his third on November 22nd. And the co-main event as he takes on WBO welterweight champion, Brian Norman Jr. He is Devin, the dream, Haney. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Thank you for having me. Of course, my man. How, I mean, this is the general question, but how are you doing right now?
Starting point is 00:23:08 Where's the mind at? Where's the, how does training camp go for Devin Haney this close to a fight? Yeah, no, I'm good. I'm good mentally, physically. Camp is going great. You know, I'm super excited for the fight. Super, super excited to make my debut at 147 and fight for another world title, win another world title.
Starting point is 00:23:29 And, you know, put my name in the history books once again. I was going to say it's already there, man. You're already in the history books. what when you have achieved all you have achieved so far and you see you know the money that's coming to boxing and everybody fighting uh until they maybe get to that point how do you stay motivated man because it's like you've done everything and then you did it again now you're moving up to do it again again how do you keep motivated for stuff like this yeah i mean this is this is part of it you know this is all part of the plan you know um you know take over each weight class you know
Starting point is 00:24:01 win multiple world world championships and um you know so everything is going to is planned and you know I'm just thankful you know I'm to lie y'all thank I lot for it and you know I'm I'm excited to be champion once again hey speaking to you know weight classes and moving up how's the body feeling it's got to feel good to not see that weight cut coming to go to 35 and all the foods you're going to have to cut out you got to be feeling better about that yeah no I mean you know when when I'm in camp you know now these days you know I wonder you know how I was you know not not only at 135 but just you know what at 1 305 but just you know what at 1 3rd at 135 and successful, you know, for so long.
Starting point is 00:24:40 You're a big dude, man. You're big dude. For sure, for sure. You know, I was fighting that, you know, a percentage of myself. But, you know, I was able to do it and still, you know, be the man in the division, become undisputed. And, you know, it was a dream control, my dude. The sacrifice was worth it. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:24:57 Absolutely. So going into this matchup, like you said, debuting at 147, obviously we know what Brian Norman brings to the table. Power punching. He's coming off a three knockout streak. You've seen him in person. There's a little pushing and shoving, a little feeling out process. You told him, listen, muscle don't win you fights.
Starting point is 00:25:13 That power ain't nothing. Talk to me about when it is fight night, what you're looking at to try to, without giving out game plan, what you're trying to expose a little bit in Brian Norman. Yeah, no, I mean, he definitely has, you know, weaknesses and he has, you know, strengths. You know, I look to handicap him, you know, of his strengths and, you know, bring out his weaknesses. And it's simple as that, you know, you know, I'm, you know, I'm here to show him that I'm just, you know, levels above him and that, you know, he's never, he's never been on this level before. And, you know, he's never beaten nobody on this level before
Starting point is 00:25:43 any, and he won't. Great point. You are by far, in my opinion, the best fighter he's ever faced. Do you think that level of experience you have, like you said, different levels, when it does come to fight night, co-main event, big stage, big name, Devin Haney, do you think that's going to shake him a little bit? Yeah, I mean, he's going to go in there, he's going to do whatever he's going to do regardless. You know, but like I said, I'm just, I'm just a different kind of fighter, you know. It's different at this level. And I'm here to show him that, you know, the guys that he's fought, you know, I've never heard of. I didn't know the guy he fought his last fight.
Starting point is 00:26:19 You know, he did, but he did not, not to take anything away from me. He did what he was supposed to do against a guy like that. Nasty, nasty knockout, yeah. Yeah, he did what he was supposed to do against a guy like that. But, you know, he wasn't Odevin Haney. When you see a knockout like that, like you said, you didn't even, you didn't even know. the guy he knocked out. But when you see something like that, I always, I find it interesting how fighters react to someone they're supposed to fight or potentially will fight, having a massive
Starting point is 00:26:44 performance. Is that get you excited? Because some guys I know they're like, hold on a second. But before that, you know, we didn't, we didn't really, you know, he wasn't somebody on our radar. Okay. So we wouldn't, we wasn't looking at it in, in that approach. But, you know, he's, he's, he's making noise, you know, he, he, he had a great, a great knockout. And, and, and, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he had a great, a great knockout. And, you know, he's the man at 147. And so now what better person to fight than the best person there, you know, and become the man in the weight class. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:27:15 Speaking of the fight, man, I've been seeing some training come out, you know, and we know the dream is known for that nasty jab, that footwork, being able to be elusive and still be there to land punches in combination. But I'm seeing some power in camp. I'm seeing you turn some right hands over. Is there a statement to be made in this fight at 147? Yeah, of course. You know, I'm looking to show, you know, how much better I am at this weight class, how much stronger, how much more I can, how much better I can, you know, my punch resistance is, you know, at 147.
Starting point is 00:27:45 I'm looking to show the best of a Haney. I want to show my full art. Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, huge news? We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas. We invented a podcast?
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Starting point is 00:31:34 that Brian has the best chant out there. We've seen him hurt multiple times. So, you know, I look to go in there and he's looking to test my channel. I was going to say, that's what he wants to do, too. He's talked about the left hook. You've seen it. Everybody's talked about it. He's got a nasty one, but I like that answer. You're saying, we're going to flip the script. You know, you think you're the big power guy here. Obviously, we're going to do it within the reins. of being a good boxer and showing off our technique. But I like this, Devin. I think that there's going to be a lot of people looking at that fight and saying,
Starting point is 00:32:06 what Devin Haney are we going to get here? And because you can fight in so many different ways, I think that's a strength you have that people don't give you credit for us. You can win in a lot of different ways. Yeah. I'm excited. I'm a very versatile fighter. We got a lot of experience.
Starting point is 00:32:21 And I look to shoulder on November 22nd. You know, we don't look forward past this fight, obviously. But, you know, you said you want to become the man here at 147? Does that mean we're going belt hunting in this way? Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Yeah. I want to fight the champions.
Starting point is 00:32:36 You know, I want to fight, you know, Ryan again. I think that that's a huge fight. That's a lot of unfinished business there. It's a big. It's a huge fight. Mass. Yeah. It's a lot of question marks there.
Starting point is 00:32:46 So I think the 147 pound division is a great division for me. And I'm excited for my future in the division. Absolutely. You know, we talk about the Ryan fight. and I know that you've been asked about it by everybody. I always wanted your perspective on what you thought happened with him and Roley. You were sitting there ringside. You saw it.
Starting point is 00:33:06 I don't know. I think we're all, we're all questioning what really happened. We seen Ryan was off the PDs. You know, he was in drug testing protocol for, you know, around 10 months, nine months or something like that. You know, maybe a little less than that. But we've seen, we've seen that, you know, a clean Ryan. and we've seen, you know, a totally different fighter than we've seen against the fight. We've seen in the fight with me.
Starting point is 00:33:33 So I think that played a big part in the outcome of the fight. Yeah. I mean, he was. It was completely different, but also, Raleigh came to fight. And that's a guy that potentially got on your radar as well, too. Yeah, no, take nothing away from Rale. He fought a good fight. He went in there, and he handicapped took the left hook away.
Starting point is 00:33:51 And, you know, Ryan had no answers. When you look at this fight between you. and Brian Norman Jr. There has been a little side story, and I know that this happens pretty much with all of your fights. You know, your dad, Bill Haney, is one of the best talkers, probably in the sport. I'll be honest. He's the most entertaining man anytime I'm on stage with him. He's hilarious. Have you seen some of this back and forth between him and Brian Norman, Sr., and do you make anything of it at all, or is that just business as usual? Yeah, no, I mean, you know, it's, this is the case in all of my fights. So I'm used to it.
Starting point is 00:34:26 Like I said, I'm going there and do whatever. I'm going to do regardless of, you know, what they say or what they don't say. And I think he's going to do the same, you know, in return. So this camp, can you give me a focus for what it's been? Because you've talked about getting better with your power. But what's, when you walk into the gym every day, you know, I've been a part of some different camps where fighters have like a mantra or a saying or a theme for the camp. What's the theme for this camp for Devon Haney? I can't really say a theme.
Starting point is 00:34:55 You know, I just want to be the best Devin Haney that I can be. And this training camp, but that's what I've been, you know, focused on. I've been trying to, you know, improve on the things, you know, my weaknesses and, you know, also, you know, make my strengths even better as well. You know, I'm looking to be the best Devon Haney on November 22nd. And the world is going to, you know, see, you know, we can look back at the Vermearest fight. and you can say what you want to say, but Ryan Norman is not Ramirez. You know,
Starting point is 00:35:27 we fight every guy different. Ramirez is not Loma. Loma is not Ryan. Ryan is in Regis. You know, we've fought every, every fighter different. So,
Starting point is 00:35:35 you know, come to this fight, you guys will see a different Devin hating than you guys seen in every other fight. I think people are really excited for that. Devin, you feel like a guy
Starting point is 00:35:47 that's more mature than the age you are, man. Every time I hear you talk, there's not a lot of controversy. Sometimes there's some pushing and shoving outside of fights, but we're fighters, right? Yeah. But where does that come from? Is that come from Bill?
Starting point is 00:35:58 Does that come from just your life experience? You seem like you got a good head on your shoulders and you don't really partake in a lot of the stuff that usually gets guys sidetracked in this sport. Yeah, I mean, I've been doing this for a while now. I thought at the top level, you know, I got a jump start, you know, in front of a lot of guys my age. Most of the guys my age. So, you know, I just just been through some stuff. learned a lot and this is the result here I am there you go when you get into this fight fight week I should say it's in Riyadh it's a little bit of a change of scenery right so I'm
Starting point is 00:36:36 sure we're trying to get prepared for that but the last time you guys have kind of been around each other for an extended period it always comes to pushing and shoving how do we avoid that during fight week I don't need to see anybody getting atomic wedged or getting their shirt pulled overhead what are we doing we got to avoid that right yeah I mean um it's it's the fight game um yeah at the end of the day when you put two two fighters in the same room together with no security no nothing then you don't know what's bound to happen so um maybe they'll keep us away this time maybe not we'll see i just can't see i can't see anybody getting their head put through their shirt again that was crazy work that was insane um but okay so let's let's
Starting point is 00:37:16 let's do some some mind games here we get to fight night devon haney is across the ring from Ryan Norman Jr., WBO, Welterweight Championship on the line, bell rings. What happens, Devin? We got to see. We got to see. I thought I'd get it out of you. I thought I tried, but I'll think. The road has to tune in November 22nd to see what Devin Haney shows up, what Brian
Starting point is 00:37:38 Norman shows up, how the styles, you know, clash against each other, and who's a better man? Do you think, though, that he'll take, you know, some of the, I don't want to say notes, but things that Jose Ramirez tried to do and walk you down and try to put you in different positions on the back foot do you think that's how he's going to approach this yeah i think um i think he'll you know come come and come and try to come forward and you know do do do the same thing that he's done in his past fights yeah yeah um and i'll be there to meet him i i did want to give you i won't be hard for him to find oh okay talk that talk them i wanted to uh i wanted to say this too i went back and watched the hoseyramere's performance and and granted there wasn't a lot of punches thrown
Starting point is 00:38:19 But when there were moments where you countered off that back foot, you were catching them with some nasty stuff, man. And I was like, it didn't get looked at in real time the way I think it deserved. I was like, oh, snap, when you sat down on punches, I saw some of that power come out then. I can't wait for it at 47. But let's do this. Devin Haney picks, because you're on a card full of champions.
Starting point is 00:38:41 I mean, it's called Knight of Champions, for goodness sake. Yeah. Give me some picks here, if you can. Let's start with Bam Rodriguez versus Fernando Martinez. Who you got, man? I think BAM for sure. I mean, I don't know much of his opponent, but I think Bammish is, you know,
Starting point is 00:38:54 he's crazy talented. I've been knowing him for a while. So I think he's just, you know, one of the best pound fighters in the world. Super, super talented, man. He's going to, I think he's going to get in front of a lot of eyes that maybe haven't seen him yet. He's going to show out.
Starting point is 00:39:07 How about Abdullah Mason versus Sammy Noakes? Same thing with Abdullah. I think that he has, you know, a lot of talent and a lot of potential. I haven't seen, you know, Sam. He's a puncher. He's a big time puncher. I haven't seen a fight. So I see, you know, what my opinion, just off for that, I think Abdullah should win. Now, with your fight, can I get a prediction how it goes down?
Starting point is 00:39:30 Do you know, kind of in your mind what you want to do here? Yeah, I mean, you know, I know that I'll be victorious. And you guys, now you guys got to tune in on. To see how. To see how, right? We got the victory. He's got to see how. I got you.
Starting point is 00:39:45 Main event. David Benavides and Theo. That's a fight I want to stay away from because, you know, I really like Benavides. Benavides is a guy who, you know, we've been training out of the same gym in Miami. You know, I've been a fan of him for a long time. I think that he's, you know, another pound for pound talent, you know, a great fighter. And Anthony Yard is, you know, a guy that I came up with. You know, my dad helped, you know, make this fight, you know, make that fight happen, you know.
Starting point is 00:40:13 Sure. My dad brought that fight to the table to, you know, his excellency, you know. His Excellency, you know, and, you know, Rear season and, you know, making this fight happen. So that's just a fight that I'm happy to, you know, watch, you know, be a fan of. And, yeah. Sure, sure. I hear you. Just a couple more for you.
Starting point is 00:40:32 We'll get out of here. What are your thoughts on this rumored many Pacquiao, uh, roly fight coming up? I think it's a good fight. It's a good fight for boxing. It's a good fight, you know, stylistically. and yeah I'm I would definitely tune in to watch that fight let's just say all right let's just play let's just fantasize here what if if manny were to do it and get a win would you go and fight manny back yeah yeah of course um I think that that's a huge fight for boxing um you know
Starting point is 00:41:04 he would be coming with a role title if he was to be you know roly I would be coming with a role title uh when I beat norman and uh yeah now I think it'll be a great great fight for boxing a huge fight for boxing. And, yeah. Okay, all right. Well, Devin, I don't have anything left for you, but I want you to do something for me. Tell the fans, your supporters,
Starting point is 00:41:25 the people that watch this, why they should tune in. Outside of all the accolades, you're one of the best in the sport. But what's so special about this night, November 22nd? Yeah, no, there's not, you know, outside of the accolades. You know, this is just a great fight for boxing. You know, Brian Norman is the best guy at 147. And I'm coming up to the weight class to be a challenger,
Starting point is 00:41:43 you know and show why I'm one of the best fighters in boxing you know why I'm a pound for pound talent you know why I've been at the top for so long one of the best and I will give you this credit that a lot of people I don't think do you seek out tough fights it's one of the things I think you and bill don't get enough credit for is you have sought out some tough tough people when no one else wanted to do it yeah I mean this is tough fight on paper but uh I let to go in on November 22nd and make it easy he's looking to make it easy November 22nd catch him in the co-man event of Ring 4 night of champions. Devin Haney jumps up another weight class to contend for the WBO Welterweight Championship of the world. He's taken on Brian Norman Jr. You guys will see it November
Starting point is 00:42:25 22nd. Devin, appreciate you joining me, man. Thank you so much. Folks, welcome back to the Wake Kassette presented by the Ring Magazine. Today, I am joined by the WBC Light Heavyweight Champion of the world. He's 30 and O. They call him El Monstro. It's none other than David Benavides. How you doing, my man? I'm doing great, man. Thank you for having me on. And it's just a pleasure and a blessing to be here with you guys. Awesome, brother.
Starting point is 00:42:51 Listen, this is no doubt about it. One of the most fun fights, I think, of the year coming up, November 22nd. You, Anthony Yard, in Riyadh, Night of Champions. You get to headline a card full of champions. Just talk to me really quickly about what that means. It seems like it's now elevation time, finally, for David Benavides. Yeah, I'm just really excited. I'm excited, man. This is something since when I fought in the undercard with Tank, you know,
Starting point is 00:43:18 we had made that happen because that was something that I was kind of trying to manifest. You know, I wanted to be that type of fighter that fights on the card with other great champions. So that was the first step really to making cars like that happened. And after we got that card done, it kind of seemed like everybody started to follow in that direction. There was cards being made of, you know, different champions on the same card. So, and now, you know, I paid my dues. I took the co-main event spot with Durante Davis. And now this time, you know, it's paying off because now I'm the main event on a card full of champions.
Starting point is 00:43:51 You know, you got Devin Haney, you got Abdul Amazin, you got Bamman Rodriguez. And, you know, it's definitely going to be a treat for the fans. And I'm very excited, man. All these fights, you know, they could be main event on their own, you know. So I'm very excited not only for myself, but for the fans, because it's going to be an amazing night of boxing. I agree with you, man. And I also agree with you that, you know, once you had that fight versus Vutzig, and I didn't know if people would really understand how much that win would catapult you because you're fighting a guy whose only loss at that point was to Archer Better Beav. And he was a tough out for Archer Better Beav. It wasn't an easy fight. And you made that fight look a little easier than I thought it was going to be. And I was there that week in Vegas. And I remember talking to you in Vegas. I didn't know how big you were. I was like, oh, man, this guy is, is. really going to step up between the 175 and make some noise, which you already had been before. And that moment and then the Morrell fight, and now it just feels like each fight,
Starting point is 00:44:50 your name is getting bigger and bigger to you. Does that, is that how it feels? And how are you handling all of that? Yeah, definitely. Every fight gets bigger and bigger. With that fight, when I fought, I don't know, we didn't really speak on it because that fight when I fought BOSIC, I had gone through a lot of injuries. You know, in my opinion, I sure stopped them, but I had torn my leg in fit on this hand,
Starting point is 00:45:13 I had an injured left hand. I had got a cut in my eye three weeks before the fight. So it was a tough fight not only because, not because of the fighter, but because everything I had gone through. This is the type of stuff you have to go through as a boxer, you know. Sometimes you're going to have to be dealing with injuries, fighting, you know, with cuts and this and that. So that, not only did that fight taught me a lot about myself, you know,
Starting point is 00:45:38 show me that I have the heart of the champion and no matter what obstacle gets put in front me, I will prevail. But, you know, it was a great performance, you know, it was a great card. And then after that fight, we fought David Morel. So every, every fight keeps getting bigger and bigger. But this is what we worked for. You know what I mean? I knew my time was going to come sooner or later. I mean, I'm professional now 13 years. I've been boxing 25 years. So I've been waiting for my moment, man. And not only been waiting for, I've been working for it. And, you know, since while I was Blading show, you know, I'm just very excited. I'm very happy.
Starting point is 00:46:13 I'm very blessed, you know what I mean? I just continue to work harder because I definitely do want to be the face of boxing. And I know that's possible, you know, with hard work, anything is possible. It absolutely is, man. And there's videos of you when, you know, you're younger, you're a kid and you're in the background of some of these videos and boxing gyms. And I'm seeing you just fall in love with the sport in real time. I think that's the coolest thing.
Starting point is 00:46:36 I mean, there's a lot wrong with social media. in the big 2025, but one of the coolest things we get is we get like a video documented journey of, you know, kids getting into the sport like yourself and, you know, being able to grow in the sport in front of our eyes. And that's what I've really seen. And I've talked to people. I've talked, I don't know, you've been in camp and been in there with BJ Flores. I talked to him when he was kind of on his way out of his career and you were coming up. And he was like, that's when I knew I needed to get out because that kid was a monster. I didn't want any part of him. I mean, like, stories like that. I've heard about you in the sparring rooms. And then obviously now to see it in front of
Starting point is 00:47:10 the bright lights, it's just, it's really cool to see for me. And it does show me that, you know, there are some guys in this game that box for money. There are some guys in this game, especially with the money coming in, that that's the end goal for you. You said you want to be the face of boxing. And I can see that in those videos back then. I can hear it in BJ Flores's voice when he talks to me about the hunger you had then. How do you keep that hunger? For me, I've never really worried about the money. I've always said that if you do your job, right, the money's going to come in on its own. And I've always had that mindset, even since I was a little kid, man,
Starting point is 00:47:44 even since I was 14 years old, Spartan World Champions, I knew that if I did my job right and I beat the guys that people say I can't beat the money will come on its own. For me, what motivates me more in the world is the accolades of boxing, the world titles. You know, I definitely do want to be on that Mount Rushmore of Boxing, that mountain Rushmore of Boxing and by the time I'm done. And so that's really what motivates me and that's what keeps me going every day. Also, what keeps me going is I think people could see in real time who I was back then and who I am now.
Starting point is 00:48:18 You know, when I was a little kid, I was a fat little kid, you know, I was never the first pick. I was never the first pick of anything. I was not the strongest. I was not the fastest. I was really overweight. I had bad eating habits. I had bad habits. and I feel like what's good about me now
Starting point is 00:48:39 what's good about me is that people are able to see that so you know sometimes people have the same habits I have you know people are overweight people they're not the strongest they're not the fastest but what I have of myself is I never gave up of myself I had a dream and I was not going to stop or I was not going to quit until I see my dream manifest and I think just by having the story that I have
Starting point is 00:49:00 I can motivate a lot of people I can motivate a lot of kids. I can motivate a lot of young men that maybe sometimes they don't believe in themselves. Sometimes they might think their dream is far-fetched. But what you can guarantee yourself is how hard you work. You know, for me, I always told myself, I said, you know what, if it doesn't work out, it doesn't work out.
Starting point is 00:49:19 But I'm going to give my heart and soul into this. And if I walk away from the sport and I don't make nothing out of it, at least I know for myself that I put everything into it. Thankfully for me, me putting everything into it, meant me becoming world champion and me making my dreams come true. But I don't feel like I'm different from anybody else. I feel like what just makes me different is that I'm not going to quit. You know, I'm going to keep going and I'm going to keep working.
Starting point is 00:49:45 And no matter what obstacle gets put in my way, I'm going to keep going. But that's something that other kids can learn from themselves too. You know what I mean? And it's not even about boxing. It's about everything in life. If you put hard work, whether it's football, basketball, you know, you want to be a program, or you want to be a car salesman, whatever. The one thing that you got to do is make sure that you put more work in than anybody else.
Starting point is 00:50:10 And you will achieve whatever it is that you're looking to achieve. Yeah, man, I love that message. Is that something that, you know, you talked about, you know, being the kid that no one picked first, being the kid that maybe was overlooked a little bit. Is that what keeps that chip on your shoulder, too, is that maybe some of these other guys when they were younger were looked at as the big prodigy prospect. Like, you're the one that's going to lead, especially the U.S. boxing, which, you know, We have for long times wanted to see the resurgents.
Starting point is 00:50:34 And here it comes with you and guys like Devin Haney and Shakur and others. Is that what, especially early on was able to keep that chip on your shoulder? Like, okay, you're looking at that guy. You're looking at this guy. But here I come. Yeah, I think for me, controlled anger was the biggest motivation I had. Because when I'm walking to gym, like I said, I was big. I was off the way.
Starting point is 00:50:55 People looked at me and I would hear them laugh. And be like, oh, this guy, he's not this, he's not that. Oh, we're going to beat his ass. ass, you're going to do this and that. So that, having that anger, you know, I don't tell myself in my head, all right, they're saying this and that about me. I'm going to go in there and I'm going to show them.
Starting point is 00:51:10 And I've always let that motivate me. I've always fought in this way that I fought, like the way I fight in the ring now, they call me the monster because I'm in there. I'm putting pressure. I'm trying to knock people out. Because this is the way I had to fight when I was a young kid, because that's the only way
Starting point is 00:51:25 that I would win my respect. And it's the same thing now. You know, I mean, I always had that chip on my shoulder, man. And sometimes when you know how to control that, that could lead you into success. You know, sometimes you need people to say you can't do something. You need people to lack of it. You need people to say, oh, no, he's nothing.
Starting point is 00:51:41 He's never going to be nothing. He's this and is that. Because that's what's going to motivate you and that's what's going to catapult you into the next level. Yeah, man, I love that message. Let's transition and talk about this fight, man. This is a big fight for your world title on November 22nd main event. What do you look at this fight and see without, you know, game playing stuff, just in your mind what does Anthony Yard bring?
Starting point is 00:52:02 How do you see the fight kind of playing out in your head? Is this one of those just bangers of a fight? It's a David Morel style where both guys, y'all are going to go toe to toe and whatever happens. Happens? Or are we looking at more of a technical slick kind of matchup? What do you think? No, for me, every fight, like I just, like I said to you right now, every fight for me, I got to go in there and give my respect.
Starting point is 00:52:22 I got to give my respect. I have to put it in the mind of the fighter that I fight that, oh, wow, this dude is the monster. If they're not thinking like that By the time my fight is done with them, I didn't do my job I didn't do my job right You know, so for me, he says He's not going to back up I'm for sure not going to back up
Starting point is 00:52:38 You know, I'm going to take my opportunities If I see any openings, I'm going to go for the kill You know what I mean? But what I want to do is You know, I want to make sure that Anthony Yard remembers me for the rest of his life And, you know, he's going to say That I'm the best fighter in the world And not only him, everybody else in that division
Starting point is 00:52:54 They're going to see that I'm the best fighter than world And you know, at the end of the day, you know, we're the new age gladiators. I don't want to go in there. I've never been that type of fighter where fighters were people, the boxing fans go on there, be like, oh, man, that, that fight was kind of boring.
Starting point is 00:53:10 Every time I go in there and they're like, man, this is a great fight. I can't wait to see him again. And it's going to be the same thing. I'm going to go in there. I'm going to leave it all in the line. I've been training for like about four and a half months. I've been going hard every single day.
Starting point is 00:53:21 So I'm, I'm ready to leave everything in the ring. That's definitely something different about you, David. Especially for American boxing, you don't see as many guys that, take that mentality. Like every fighter has that mentality. Like it's a fight. We got to go in there and lay it all in the line. But you see a, you know, a different mentality from a lot of guys that want to be more technical, slick, don't get hit. You know, the Marcus of Queensberry hit and don't get hit, which is obviously everyone's goal, but your attitude and you got some nasty and some spite.
Starting point is 00:53:47 That's the stuff that fans love. And I think that's the stuff that in the end, boxing should be. Like, yes, I can go and win a match or I can go and win a fight. And every time you step in, it seems like you want to go in and not just, like you said, win a match, make the fighter remember your name. That gives me cold chills, man. Like that right there is some real stuff. Is that stuff you learned, again, just sparring some world champions early on,
Starting point is 00:54:10 just being like, this is what it is, man. Yeah, definitely. I feel like sometimes the fighters that just want to go in there and just have a technical match and just use the ring run around the ring, it's because they don't really train as hard as they need to train. You know, for you to go in there to actually be able to throw as much shots
Starting point is 00:54:27 as you can. You know, you have to work really hard. You know, this is not a game where you could just train five, six weeks. You have to, for you to go in there and throw everything for every single round, for 12 rounds, we have to train for months and months. And that's, I think that's what sets me apart from other fighters. A fighters don't understand that a two-month training camp is not enough. You have to do three, four, even five months. And also what motivates me to fight this way is, you know you remember how it was like when you when you would see a manny pack y'all fight right yeah when you would see uh when you would see a oscar de la hoya you would see a trinidad you know these fighters going out there these are the fighters that really brought excitement to the sport you know i mean
Starting point is 00:55:08 and that's really that's the type of fighter that i want to be i want the young generation to remember me like that like how i remembered oscar delahoya manny pack yowr roy jones junior and you know that's been my motivation, man. And I'm going to do everything in my power to make sure that that happens. And I'm remembered, you know, and I'm going to remember that as one of the greats of boxing history. I love that. Transitioned just for a quick second. I know obviously you saw the Canelo Crawford matchup.
Starting point is 00:55:40 I know now you're at 175, so this conversation doesn't necessarily take shape the same way as it maybe did two, three years ago. What did you think of that fight? And now that Crawford did win, I know that's a little bit of a stretch to make, but would that be something you'd ever be interested in? No, to be honest with you, I'm done with 168. You know, I'm a big guy who's hard for me to make 168. I was at 168. I don't know how you are at a camp, but I'm two whole five.
Starting point is 00:56:06 I stood next to you, and I'm like, he might be bigger than me. So I understand it. I get it. So, but I was at Super Middleweight for 11 years. You know what I mean? There was no big fights. There was time then. If you wanted to do it, do it then. Right. Yeah, there was time then.
Starting point is 00:56:22 You know, I was trying to get a fight with Conello. That never happened. So it's like, you know what? I'm going to let Crawford have all his glory. You know what I mean? He went up three different weight classes. Crazy. Conello. He didn't let him have his glory. You know what I mean? I hate one of people, somebody does something and then somebody from a different weight class. Oh, yeah, I'm going to go back down, this and that. But, you know, it's all. They're just talking about a lot.
Starting point is 00:56:44 You know what I mean? I'm not going to say that. I respect Crawford a lot. know, and I have no business at 168. You know, my business is at 175, you know, with all these world champions and all these other big fighters, you know, but Demetri, people are to better be of, and maybe even even in a cruiser way, you know, I mean, when I go fights through the Ramirez. So, you know, these are what interests me. Come on now. Come on now.
Starting point is 00:57:08 That one right there is a bangor, too. Talk to me about this, though, because you mentioned other world champions, obviously we're not overlooking Anthony York at all. but let's say that, you know, those matchups can materialize. I know that you've spent some time in the gym with guys like Dmitri Bivol. And you're very familiar with that style. Talk to me about what opponents you think would, you know, be next on your radar if and when you get the job done on November 22nd. Yeah, so those are fights that we have on the table.
Starting point is 00:57:37 Dimitri Bibo not, so I was in number one to fight for him. I was in line to fight for his titles, but because he had that back surgery, that doesn't really look like it's going to happen next. So maybe we're looking at Better Beav or Sure du Ramirez. Okay, so right away, you like that cruiserweight division right away potentially. You know, like you said, I'm trying to have every fight bigger than the last. You know what I mean? And I believe in myself.
Starting point is 00:58:04 I believe in my skills. I used to sparse through the Ramirez. So I know hit very well. So maybe. Hey, it's us, the Jonas brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news?
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Starting point is 01:02:06 So I think the other, like Sue of the Ramirez, it'll be in his best interest to fight me as well because that would be a big fight and we can make it happen. You know, maybe it may fit from next year. But first things first, I got to go in there and take care of my job at the yard and then we'll see what's on the table. I love that, man. I know that, you know, it's so tough to plan the future when you got business to handle right in front of you.
Starting point is 01:02:27 But I always think it's such a good idea for fighters to have something in their mind, right? Because you always get to the end of that fight and, you know, God willing, you get the victory and you kind of sit there and you're like, oh, whatever's next is next. sometimes if you're able to create that next thing for fans to latch on to, which you have, it gives them a reason to be excited for that next thing instead of, we'll see David whenever he decides to come back. You have that plan involved. I love that.
Starting point is 01:02:54 But we'll get back to your main event, but I want to ask you one question really quickly. You talked about being on Mount Rushmore, and I keep hearing you talk about greatness. And I wanted to ask you this earlier, and I kind of forgot, who is on David Benavita's in Mount Rushmore? I know you talked about Mani. you talked about Trinidad, you talked about some of these other fighters. Who are the guys that you looked at and said, those are the best boxers I've ever seen? So I'm going to go from the old school boxers first.
Starting point is 01:03:19 I'm going to do, I like Roberto Durand. I like Mike Tyson. Mike Tyson. I like Alexis Arguez. What a poll. And then Roy Jones Jr. Yep. Evander Holyfield, Mark Antonio Barrera, Eric Morales, Juan Manuel Marquez,
Starting point is 01:03:45 Madi Paco. Madi Paciel. So now this is a new age fighters. Oh, oh, I forgot. Floyd Mayweather. You got to throw Floyd Mayweather in there. I got to have Floyd in there. Got to.
Starting point is 01:03:57 Got to have Floyd. And now I like Ussick. Ussick is a great fighter. You know, he has tremendous heart. And, you know, I feel like he's really the pit of me of a wood of a wood of boxer is, not only just strength and power, but heart. Also, Denada de Lufkin, Inouye, Terence Crawford. And yeah, yeah, that's just really it for right now. But those are those are the guys that really cemented themselves as one of the greatest of all the time. Let's do this.
Starting point is 01:04:24 Let's do rapid fire really quick before we end off with your fight. I know you got some friends on this card, so feel free to just tell me, you know what, I'm not picking that fight. But we got four championship fights on this card. And I wanted to ask you, Who are you going with, who you leaning toward? Let's start with Bam Bam Rodriguez and Fernando Martinez. What do you think? Bam Bam Rodriguez. Knockout?
Starting point is 01:04:46 Yeah, I think you knockout. Late stoppage. Lay stoppage. Okay. Abdullah Mason, Sam Noakes. Abdullah Mason, I think mid-fighting stoppage. Okay. And that would be a big one too.
Starting point is 01:05:00 Obviously, you know, world title implication there. And then Sam Noakes a hard hitter too, not, you know, the resume that Abdullah has, but still a hard hitter. Devin Haney, Brian Norman, Jr. I think Devin Haney wins that fight. I'm leaning more towards a decision, but I would have surprised if there's a knockout. You know, there's a lot of animosity towards these fighters.
Starting point is 01:05:23 So sometimes that's what we need to get the knockout out. You know what I mean? So it's going to be a good fight. They met up at the press conference and the head wedgy and the whole thing. I was like, what is going on here, bro? Yeah. But there is. And even the dad, now Bill and Brian Sr.
Starting point is 01:05:35 getting involved. So Brian Norman has to get, Brian Norman has to get that back if he's really about it. But, you know, I think Devon 80 just has too much experience. So I see Devon 80 winning their fight decision. Okay. So let's now go to your fight. And I love doing this at the end of interviews. It's the main event time.
Starting point is 01:05:52 The whole card has delivered. It's your time to deliver. You're in Riyadh. They play your music. You walk out in the ring. Bell rings round one. How does it go? David Benavides versus Anthony Yard.
Starting point is 01:06:04 You know, I'm going to be going there. it's my job to be cautious in the ring because anything can happen, you know, especially in the first rounds. So I'm going to go in there, I'm going to download some information, but if I see any openings, I'm definitely going to take, I'm going to take the chance. You know what I mean? I do want to make a big statement in this fight. You know, I'm not going to guarantee no knockouts or no stoppages, but I'm definitely going to follow my game plan.
Starting point is 01:06:28 And I'm going to be looking to put, you know, as much punishment on Anthony Yard, as much punishment as I possibly can. but, you know, I'm feeling good. Combinations are coming out good. My power is looking good. So I'm definitely looking to have a great performance. I love it, man. Last thing, David, anything you want to say to your fans, people at home that are going to be watching this on November 22nd?
Starting point is 01:06:49 Yeah, also, I want to thank everybody for the love of support. And also, I wanted to talk about something that, you know, I've basically recently, fairly like two years ago I really got into. You know, I really, I found my Lord of Savior, Jesus Christ. And I've been praying a lot, you know what I mean? every single day. You know, I feel like now some people, when you have some blessings, you don't have to wait for something bad to happen
Starting point is 01:07:13 so you could look for Jesus Christ or, you know, you don't have to look for something, you know, to ask for Jesus Christ to help you. I feel like every day, if you, you know, give, you know, the time of day, Lord Jesus Christ, you pray to him, at least 10, 20 minutes a day. You know, I feel like you're able, not able, not are you only more protected,
Starting point is 01:07:34 but you have more strength, within yourself and you know this is a testament you know that I've made to myself because I wasn't really religious when I was when I was younger I'm not gonna lie but you know I started praying every single day at least 10 minutes a day and I've been doing this for like about two years and I feel like this is something I have to speak about because overall I feel like I'm a stronger person I'm more motivated I'm more confident in myself and I know that my family is taken care of I know that my family is protected So I feel like this for a reason, and I feel like it's my job to tell people that, you know, whatever it is, and it doesn't even have to be Jesus Christ, whatever, if you believe in the higher power and you give, you know, you give thanks to the blessings, for the blessings that you have in your life.
Starting point is 01:08:20 I feel like you could co-create with God in your head, you know what I mean? Just ask them to give you the blessing, ask them to give you the power. And like I say, ask, and you shall receive. You know what I mean? I feel like you connecting to the frequency of God is the best thing that you could do for yourself. and for your life. And it also opens up more opportunities for yourself. So it's something that I've felt myself,
Starting point is 01:08:41 and I feel like there's something I have to share to my people and my friends and the people that follow me. You know, it definitely does work. You know, it's not going to, it's not something that it's going to work right away. Or this is something that you really have to be, that you have to do every single day, you know what I mean? But what is it? What is five minutes of your day?
Starting point is 01:08:58 You know what I mean? When you wake up, give the thanks to God, ask them to bless your passage, ask them to bless your family with protection and love and he will give it to. I love that, man. That's such an important message, especially in today's day and age, man, where everything else is money this, views that, clout this, and there's one central thing there that people are missing,
Starting point is 01:09:18 and I appreciate that. David Benavides, ladies and gentlemen, he is the main events of the night of champions ring for November 22nd. His WBC light heavyweight championship is on the line versus Anthony Yard. David, thank you so much. We cannot wait to watch your fight. Thank you, brother.
Starting point is 01:09:35 All right, so we are back on the way concept presented by The Ring Magazine. And today, folks, I want to talk about one word, delusion. It exists to a degree. I don't think I've ever seen in any other combat sports athlete, maybe Connor McGregor, but I don't really see it even that level when we're talking about what Jake Paul is going to try to do versus Anthony Joshua.
Starting point is 01:09:57 Not just beat him, but in Jake Paul's own words, and we'll get into it in a second, he wants to and thinks he will, knock Anthony Joshua out cold. And I think a lot of things are happening right now. People are on one end of the spectrum saying Anthony Joshua is going to flatline Jake in under 30 seconds. And if it goes past that, then AJ's a fraud and his time in the sport is done. I don't necessarily agree with that.
Starting point is 01:10:18 And I'll explain why later. The other side is going, you know what, Jake might actually catch AJ. Jake might actually shock everyone because AJ got put down in his last fight. He got put down by Andy Ruiz. He's been hurt in a couple of different fights at this point. Maybe his chin's completely gone. Jake has the speed and power to still put him down, even at the level Jake is currently residing in, which is only being in the sport for five years. I don't really agree with that either. I'm somewhere
Starting point is 01:10:42 in the middle, but I'll say this. That word delusion, I just talked about a second ago. It's Jake's biggest strength. It's the reason he's even in this fight with AJ. It's the reason that he's gotten as good as he has in the short amount of time he's been boxing. But maybe more importantly than that, this may be where his delusion finally leads to the end of Jake Paul's career. Because delusion and this business can get you hurt real bad. And I think for the first time, Jake Paul's delusional idea about how good he is in the sport and what he can do may have led him a bit too far.
Starting point is 01:11:11 This is the first time where Jake is in real danger. Say what you want about money and prizes and everything else. This is going to end badly. What do I mean? The breakdown. Let's go. All right, so a couple of videos come out. Since the fight has been announced, Jake, put a video out on his channel. We're going to take a look at. Brother Logan put a video out.
Starting point is 01:11:30 We're going to take a look at. And then I want to go into the nuances and really let you guys understand how much a 5 to 6 inch height advantage, you know, 20 to 30 to however much weight advantage AJ will have and just the size and frame of the two. And I want to explain a little bit of why I think Jake isn't necessarily telling the truth when he just says AJ is stiff and plotty and bad footwork and all that stuff that I don't know is true. But where I think Jake is getting that from. Let's take a look. They said fight a real boxer. They said fight someone your size. They said fight a world champion. We looked at a long list of supposed fighters for me to fight.
Starting point is 01:12:09 So there I was on a Saturday afternoon in my $30 million mansion. Oh, it's hot. Okay, weird flex, but all right. By the way, if you're a grown man carrying a bedazzled bag around, dude, you've got to reevaluate something. These all look like purses. I'm sorry. I don't know why you would ever want to be caught carrying that around as a grown man. I understand fashion is one thing, but like this looks like fairy does.
Starting point is 01:12:31 And that looks like something my girlfriend would pack when we go on a trip. I don't know. I know it's probably worth more than my house, but like, what are we doing? But as I look closer at the list, I saw one name that stood out. Anthony Joshua? Anthony Joshua. That's got to be it, Bernard. Fire up the jet.
Starting point is 01:12:49 I'm going back to training camp. I'm fighting Anthony Joshua. MVP presents Jake versus Joshua. judgment day. December 19, live from Miami at the Kasea Center, eight three-minute rounds in a professionally heavyweight sanctioned bout. Here we go! And yes, it's live globally on the biggest streaming platform in the world. My good old friends, Netflix, baby. You guys wanted me to go bigger? How about twice as big? Literally, he's twice as big as Jervante. He's six. Go ahead, Jay. Six foot six, 260 pounds with an 82 inch reach.
Starting point is 01:13:29 I mean, well, he's going to be 245 on the night because he, that's in the contract, apparently that AJ can't be more than 245, which I, again, I'm not, I have no problem with because you're doing this on short notice. Jake was supposed to fight a guy that was way smaller and Jake had to be a little bit smaller at 195. Now, you got to turn around and put on some weight. I get it. Not that Jake was probably walking around at 195.
Starting point is 01:13:50 It's probably still like 215, whatever. But still, I get it. And AJ's fought Usik, a smaller guy at that lower weight a couple different times as well. So no big deal there to me, but don't advertise him at 260 if you're going to fight him at 245. Just look at us next to each other. So Jake uses a cutout of AJ, which why does he have that? He uses the cutout of AJ to see the size difference. But there's actually them interacting in person.
Starting point is 01:14:15 And this was a couple of years ago, but you can see the size difference then. They're playing freaking, I don't know what this is, some sort of like laser tag. And look at this, dude. It looks like AJ is participating in an after school boys and girls club program, dude. He's like, hey, I'm, I'll be your big brother for the day. You know what I mean? He's giving back to the youth. Jake is up to his shoulder.
Starting point is 01:14:40 You know what I mean? Like, that looks like four or five different weight classes away from each other. And then that's not just a cardboard cutout. That's like how they look. This is of Asov's going to be insane. It really is the difference between Jake and Jervante. now Jake becomes Dervante to Anthony Joshua, right? He went from looking down to looking up.
Starting point is 01:14:58 I just can't believe. And this isn't some exhibition, guys. This is a real fucking fight. I don't see how Jake in any way, shape, or form thinks he can win outside of the, again, right hand from the gods. That's the shot right there is the right hand from the gods. Unless he thinks he can go and stay at distance and outbox AJ with footwork and every... I don't know, man. It doesn't make any sense.
Starting point is 01:15:20 Two-time heavyweight champion of the world, an Olympic gold medal. medalist. While he was winning Olympic gold, I was filming vines in high school. Had you said? Legitably fucking insane. Dude. What the fuck? AJ is a knockout artist with fights that have literally, bro, how did he go from? Vines in high school. This face? Like, look at the difference in Jake's face. That's actually crazy. I don't even look at the same person, dude. AJ is a knackout artist with fights that have literally ended in seconds.
Starting point is 01:15:51 He fought legends. Clitchco. Usik, Ruiz, Inganu. Biggest shot I have seen live. I'm not gonna lie. I'm a little scared. And yes, Little Josh is signed to my enemy, Eddie Hearn. And I know Eddie and all of you naysayers were saying that I wouldn't take this fight.
Starting point is 01:16:12 I'm not sure Jake pulls that crazy. That's a fucking bad idea. AJ's gonna knock him out. He's going to get hurt. This might be a step too far. Talk is cheap. Calling Teddy Atlas a haters crazy. But here's the thing that Jake does very well.
Starting point is 01:16:25 well is he very much listens and understands how to respond to quote unquote hate or doubters and usually goes about trying to in his own way right with you know narratives and and other things sometimes prove them wrong this one i agree with teddy atlas is probably a step too far and even doing that right listening to other people say for so long you won't do this you won't do this you won't do this and then answering that call and doing it almost to a different level than even anyone asked for like no one was like, hey, Jake, you'll be a real boxer when you go and fight Anthony Joshua. People were like, hey, go and rematch Tommy Fury again. He tried to. Didn't work out. But they were like, hey, go and fight someone your age, your size, and, you know, your experience level. And Jake went, I'll take
Starting point is 01:17:08 all those things and then just go to a different level with it. Yeah, I'll fight someone around my age, AJ's 36, Jake's 28. But I'll fight the former gold medalist, two-time heavyweight champ and a guy that, you know, weighs more than me because y'all say I weigh more than all my opponents, which is true. This one is the one where I think he went. too far trying to convince everyone that he will do the unthinkable and has done the unthinkable. And I just don't see how he hasn't put himself in the most dangerous, most like health risked spot, life-threatening legitimately spot of Jake's career. And I mean that word life twofold.
Starting point is 01:17:42 I mean his boxing life. And I mean, potentially his actual physical health. All to what? Prove Eddie Hearn wrong? I mean, again, I respect it. But I don't know, man. This is dangerous as fuck. And we saw what happened.
Starting point is 01:17:52 I know that Francis and Jake are. different people and we're going to do a full breakdown on the differences there and why Francis was a little bit more susceptible to being knocked out by Anthony Joshua but I don't know who Jake's taken a page out of like what book is Jake taking a page out of to say I'm going to beat Anthony Joshua is it Ussick because Jake doesn't have Uc talent is and Andy Ruiz because one Jake is not as big as Andy is and two I don't think he has the hand speed or again technical prowess Andy Ruiz has but he can crack and I hope I hope I hope what Jake is not doing is looking at the Daniel Dubois fight and going, I just have to land a right hand. That's all I got to do. And maybe
Starting point is 01:18:26 that's the case and maybe he does land that right hand, but I just think it's so much more difficult than that. And if you try to blend down AJ to just the right hand he took, a multiple right hands he took from Dubois and go, man, his chin is just done. I don't know. Maybe that's a fucking massive risk. Friends, but guess what? You're not alone. My friends and family couldn't even believe I was taking this fight. I'm fighting Anthony Joshua. Are you scared? Are you Scared? No? I'm terrified.
Starting point is 01:18:59 I'm fighting Anthony Joshua. Wait? Yes, the big boy. No way, dude. Yeah. Are you for real? I'm serious. What's the world going to say when he knocked his ass up?
Starting point is 01:19:13 Because it's going to happen. I know it's going to happen too. Jay Paul. Excuse me, Jack. See, that's a little bit of a different thing than I'm going to go in and like outbox A.J. and, you know, like keep it at boxing range and use my feet and try to, you know, jab maybe a Devin Haney. style jab footwork jab footwork stay on the outside again Jake can't even really stay on the outside because he's given up six inches in reach as well but he's actively like yes I am going to knock out
Starting point is 01:19:39 AJ and in any other timeline we'd all point and laugh and some people still are pointing and laughing but I'm just sitting here going what has he seen that makes him believe that not only of what's happened to AJ sure he's been knocked out by Daniel Dubois another 240 pound champion of the world but what is he seen in himself that makes him think he's going to knock out AJ when he hasn't knocked out anyone since Mike Perry. And Mike Perry, as we know, is not a high-level boxer. He hasn't knocked out a high-level box. He could hurt Julio Cesar Chavez, but Chavez knew to cover up and not engage.
Starting point is 01:20:09 Maybe he thinks AJ will engage with him and AJ does do some bad things in the pocket. Again, we'll save it for another video. But the only thing I can think of, and I said it at the beginning of this video, is Jake is absolutely delusional and he's convinced himself of what's going to happen based on very outlying data, right? The Dana-Bois knockout, how he struggled with Usig. Hey, who are you fighting when and why? I'm fighting Anthony Joshua because I'm fucking him.
Starting point is 01:20:34 What? I'm fighting Anthony Joshua because I'm him. Holy shit. Let me take a second. Is this motherfucker out of the line? Dude, it's light work. Light work. Well, at least my good old friend Tyson Fury believes that I can win.
Starting point is 01:20:53 If Jake Paul fights Anthony Joshua, I'm putting a million quid on Jake Paul. I want some free money. Smart man, Tyson. I need to see a bet slip, Tyson I know you got it like that these days And millions like a you know Like a slight 10,000 to the rest of us But or maybe a thousand
Starting point is 01:21:08 After those couple of title fights with Alexander Usik But I need to see the bet slip I saw the line when And this is kind of crazy I saw the line when the fright first got made And we put it in the video Jake was plus 800 to win Jake has now moved to plus 650 to win
Starting point is 01:21:23 That's outright I don't know by knockout I'm not sure But plus 800 was already like Okay that's you know that's a big underdog and Joshua was like minus 1500 but now Joshua's at minus 1250 and Jake's at plus 650 this line is closing and I'm wondering why what are people seeing make no mistake this is the biggest fight of my career I'm walking into the lion's den I'm doing something that no one
Starting point is 01:21:45 else has ever done before I Jake Joseph Paul will knock out defeat and embarrass Anthony Joshua Friday December 19th live on Netflix my voice cracked I'm still going through puberty The biggest fight of 2025, USA versus UK. He's got the belts, the size, the history, but I have the balls. Be careful what you wish for. Jake versus Joshua, judgment day. He has a 90% knockout ratio, but I have 100% chance of drinking this Celsius. Okay, there we go.
Starting point is 01:22:18 Adds only. Yeah, I mean, having balls is good when it comes to making a fight like this, when it comes to, you know, putting yourself out there and, again, just operating on self-belief, but it isn't going to win Jake this fight. Him being ballsy is not going to win him this fight. Like him making the decision to take this fight is ballsy. And we can all say it and we have said it. And I feel like it's starting to become a thing where it's like,
Starting point is 01:22:41 that's the only thing we're saying. I feel like everybody is just pointing out that Jake has big balls for doing this. And that's a ballsy move. And that's correct, but we established that already. So now let's talk about the fight itself. What about Jake's ballziness is going to win him this fight? The fact that he wants to throw, the fact that he'll mix it up, that may be the worst thing.
Starting point is 01:22:57 that Jake could do is mix it up with Anthony Joshua because again you get into 50-50s with a guy that can crack like he can 90% finish rate he'll put you on the canvas he's done it to so many other heavyweights and yes a j sometimes is the one that gets clipped in exchanges like that with the left hook especially but we'll do a more comprehensive breakdown in the future i've just it better be more than that it better be something they are seeing outside of just a j's chin how do you get to it that's the real question if you think his chin is suspect can you get to it and how many times are you going to and get the opportunity before he gets to you. How do you weigh that, everything else? Anyway, Logan actually made a video where he talked to Daniel Cormier, of all people, D.C., my guy. And here's what the consensus of fighters are starting to say about this AJ and Jake fight. Dude, it's real. It's fucking.
Starting point is 01:23:44 It's real. There's got to be some rules in place for Anthony and Anton. Dude, I don't think there's rules. Come on. I swear to God. I keep telling people this, right? And this is where people fucking else. The rest of these M.M.A. dudes.
Starting point is 01:23:54 I keep saying, stop treating Jake like he's... Is D.C. wearing a picture of DC on like embroidered holding a golf flag stick on his shirt is that like his own merch or is that something i'm missing because the guy does look a little bit you know portly a little heavy set that doesn't it look like tiger woods it looks like tiger foods you know not a boxer yeah it's been five years now of pure boxing with great coaches and great training partners he's gotten a lot better he's got a lot better he can fight man yeah but what about anthony joshua that's bad bro
Starting point is 01:24:26 was like like like say that like that like like frances like frances went and fought him oh i said jake i said do you see what he did to francis he's like frances light work too here's also oh my god he is kind of crazy francis wasn't training boxing at the level yeah we get it because because i would imagine if jake gets hurt he knows how to hold like a boxer because in boxing you know you got to go clinch when you get hurt francis was kind of like just standing there listen to me right here let me tell you He fights Anthony Joshua with no parameters in place. I better give Jake Paul his credit.
Starting point is 01:25:00 I will because that's fucking brave. Queen. It's a fair take right there from D.C. He made a couple of good points. Number one, the idea that Jake is fighting AJ with no parameters being all credit to Jake, we've all established that, right? That's number one. The other thing that D.C. knows, which a lot of people that fight Jake,
Starting point is 01:25:18 underestimate him to a massive degree. And they get surprised on fight night. Whatever you want to say about the opponent's selection, about where they're at in their careers versus where they were in their primes or the size difference, whatever. There's only been a few guys that took Jake seriously and didn't look at him as the quote unquote YouTuber. Guys like Tommy Fury, Anderson Silva, obviously Mike Perry. Other people didn't really do that, right? Other people, even Nate Diaz kind of looked at him like, ah, you know, we'll see.
Starting point is 01:25:44 But Jake has been doing this, DC says five years. It's been more like six, almost seven years that Jake has been actively training and fighting in boxing. So the more you underestimate him by going, oh, you know, he's green, he's a YouTuber, he's still got some skill, he still has some technique, maybe not the highest level. And again, because you can't make up for lost time, as much money in time as Jake is thrown at this, there's still a gap of 18 to 19 years where he didn't even think about boxing. So there is going to be a skill gap there, but he's making it up rather quickly, and they believe he has the skill level to hang with AJ, which I think is crazy.
Starting point is 01:26:20 But I do like the idea that DC's bringing up here. You better not underestimate him. And I hope that AJ, who has kind of been around this scene with KSI, even with Jake before, he's been around some of the influencers. I hope he understands that, again, I know this is crazy to say, but you can't just treat him like anybody. Like what AJ treated Francis, like dead serious, I'm here for a job. I'm going to show up and flatline you.
Starting point is 01:26:44 That's the way he has to enter this fight with Jake. You can't come in like, oh, we're just going to move about. Like, this will be fun. No. And I don't expect AJ to do. do that because I watched him flatline Francis. After Francis came in and put down Tyson Fury and kind of made a mockery of boxing, AJ's like, let me go ahead and get that back for the Marcus of Queensberry. So that's a good point from DC. The second good point is that, you know, we keep doing this thing
Starting point is 01:27:04 where we compare the AJ Francis fight to AJ and Jake. And again, we go back to that experience. Francis was not a polished boxer. And we'll do a full breakdown on that fight. And I'm going to show you guys where AJ picked up on very quickly Francis was out of his depth. And it was very simple things that AJ did in the sense of boxing that Francis had never seen before to put Francis on his ass multiple times and eventually hit him with the one hitter or quitter. Jake's going to be a little bit tougher to fool, but again, they both have boxing tools. They both know how to make boxing reads. What it's going to come down to now is that even Jake doesn't have the time and reps and experience and speed power and ability, honestly, that AJ has in this sport. So what makes up the
Starting point is 01:27:45 ground? For Francis, it was size and power and a little bit of speed. Jake doesn't have any of that. I mean, he has speed. He does have power, but he doesn't have it to that level. So is it going to be his feet? Is it going to be, like, what's your X factor to get you to the point where you're dangerous for AJ? Right? The only real danger for AJ is this massive pressure on him to shut Jacob, stop him, don't even make this look competitive. And if you want to say that's pressure and, you know, we've seen AJ in pressure cookers before. He's performed well in some, not so much in others. But this is not like championship pressure. This is you better do away with the quote unquote YouTube. Will that affect AJ? I don't think so. I think he's
Starting point is 01:28:19 He, again, had the same pressure with Francis, but he went and did the business there. But good points from D.C. Again, a realistic look there at like, better take him serious. Because if you don't, he can expose you. He can make you look bad. And again, we've already said if Jake goes three rounds, it looks bad, right? It kind of does for the former two-time heavyweight champion of the world. If Jake survives the whole thing, Jesus Christ, it looks awful, right?
Starting point is 01:28:41 AJ might have to retire if Jake survives the whole thing. Like, that's how bad this would look. You got to take him serious. And just one more thing before we get out of here. You know, I started this video talking about the delusion of Jake Paul and how it's his greatest strength, but potentially his greatest weakness as well, right? And I think this will be the fight where it potentially showcases why it's a weakness, right? It can be a weakness, right?
Starting point is 01:29:01 Delusional people in most walks of life, they're so deeply entrenched in what they believe that they will be successful to some degree. And sometimes to a degree we can't even understand because of that delusion. But eventually, they run into an answer that they didn't expect, right? Jake kind of ran into that with Tommy Furrow and that had to be reset. And now his confidence again is at an all-time high, delusional confidence, I would say. And I think he's going to run into an issue here. But the question about why he's at that point where he's like, yes to the AJ fight. I mean, yes, money, viewers, everything else.
Starting point is 01:29:28 But it's also because he believes in this right hand. If you take you back to a clip from when Jake was sparring for Mike Tyson. Now again, he's not sparring a high-level heavy weight here. Not sparring a guy that's ever won a world championship, competed for one, ever been probably top 50 or 100. But what he does here is what he believes he can do to AJ. guy hits him with a one-two doesn't really hit him with it uh jab lands right hand jake kind of rolls guy gets a little cocky with him kind of drops his guard a little bit boom right hand over the top nasty overhand my man does the stanky leg one time turns into a b-boy bang and it's that quick
Starting point is 01:30:05 off the back foot in probably 18 ounce of gloves with head gear on boom on the chin drops the guy Again, other factors at play here, this guy is walking onto the shot, guards down, thinking, yeah, I just landed that one, too. Let me cock the arm for some reason. Step in on this jab and throw it again, except Jake gets underneath it and clips him right on the chin. Can that happen in the AJ fight? Yeah, it can.
Starting point is 01:30:31 Guess why? Because AJ has the pattern of hurting people, Andy Ruiz. Hell even Francis and Ghanu, if you go back and watch that fight, which we will, clipped him with a left hook after AJ hurt Francis. and then tried to swarm him, there are times where AJ loses his form, especially when he's on the attack after he's hurt someone. There are moments where he loses his form, drops his hands, and wants to swing with his chin up in the air
Starting point is 01:30:54 and his head on center line. And again, the Dubois fight, the first time AJ gets dropped, he's throwing a combination circling out with his hand low, no defense, and Dubois clips him with an overhand on the chin, and AJ hits the camera. This is why Jake believes he can knock him out. 1,000%. the combination of him going, and I'm not just talking about this instance, there's probably
Starting point is 01:31:15 more spars behind the scenes where Jake has had a success with heavyweights. And he probably generalizes the guys he's seen with AJ. And maybe there's some connection there. Hey, he's got heavyweights in camp. Hey, yeah, I sparred, uh, you know, Klitsko. I sparred AJ. I sparred this heavyweight, that heavyweight. And I did okay with them and they weren't that power.
Starting point is 01:31:33 You hit harder than that heavyweight. Those talks happen. And these sparring partners may be telling Jake. And that may or may not be true. That could be them trying to make more money in camp or be there for longer. or whatever else. But again, someone like Jake takes that, takes the fact that he's dropped that guy,
Starting point is 01:31:47 takes the fact that AJ's been dropped in his last fight, knocked out, takes all this talk about how Jake won't fight the guy we want him to fight. Jake is not on the level he thinks he is. Jake is only fighting old retired MMA guys, older retired boxers, smaller boxers, not in his weight class, not at his age, not at his skill level.
Starting point is 01:32:02 And all this morphs into fuck it, I'm ready now. Not I'm ready in the future, not we may do it in 2026. I'm ready now to make that statement. And that's why I think Jake is taking this fight. I think that's why Jake believes what he says. Like, people will get in this comment section later and say,
Starting point is 01:32:19 Jake doesn't even believe he'll knock him out. He's just doing this for the payday. You're wrong. I 1,000% guarantee you Jake thinks he's going to knock him out. Do I think Jake will knock him out? No. I think that's far less probable than the reality of this fight being Jake getting hurt very badly. But I believe he thinks it 100%.
Starting point is 01:32:35 And now we go to the other side of that delusion, which is the big weakness of it, which all that stuff combined. The reason Jake thinks the way he does, you can get surprised in a big way when what you think and what you believe is not reality. I think that's what is probably going to happen in this fight. I mean, you look at AJ, Sim working with Ben Davison, and he doesn't move like a regular heavyweight at that size and frame. Like he's a big, powerful, fast dude, man. He is fast and he's got to reach on him.
Starting point is 01:33:07 And while he's using his inside fighting here, I think he's best when he's using. utilizing his jab and then getting to the right hand. But you see, you know, yeah, okay, maybe AJ doesn't move like a cruiserweight or he doesn't move like a light heavyweight, but I don't see, this is just midwork, but I don't see stiffness, I don't see slow. I see fast and powerful. I see dangerous with both hands, right? I see clubbing shots and I see speed shots. I see up and down shots. We'll get into more videos where AJ does this in his fights. Go back. and watch the Francis fight and watch how he walked Francis under the pole right hand and how efficiently AJ set it up and landed it. Go back and watch him even in the Dubois fight when he was
Starting point is 01:33:51 hurt multiple times and still dangerous after being down on the canvas three or four times wobbling Dubois in the fifth round of that fight. And I don't think Jake hits like Dubois does, but that's not the point. The point is it's not as easy as just the guys that Jake has dropped in sparring. It's not as easy as I can... Hey, it's us to Jonas brothers and guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, Nick? news. We created our own podcast called Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast. Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to us. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts. We're starting a trend. But this one's extra special. So how do we, how do we actually come up with a
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Starting point is 01:37:48 Punch like a heavyweight because I've seen the guys across from me in sparring, AJ will be no different. That dude is different, a genetic freak. And if the only thing you're banking on is he doesn't have a chin, this could be the most rude wake-up call I've ever seen in boxing. Legitimately. This could be one of the most damaging fights you have ever seen in boxing. Career ending.
Starting point is 01:38:07 Life alter. saying that is a joke. I legitimately think that could be a possibility at play here, which is why, again, you have to give respect to Jake for doing it. And you look at the way AJ approached the Francis Ngano fight. You have to respect that as well. But that's it, folks. We're going to wait and see what this first press conference looks like tomorrow. As you see this video, the press conference will be tomorrow. We'll break that down, come back. But the word of the day today was delusion in the form of Jake Paul's mindset. Will it be his greatest strength and propel him to do something that almost no one thinks he can do in this AJ fight? Or will it be
Starting point is 01:38:38 the reason for his perpetual downfall in taking this fight with AJ and thinking he was ready and not only being exposed but being hurt very, very badly. I tend to lead toward the latter but I don't have those answers so we're only 30 days away I think as I record this video December 19th is coming soon
Starting point is 01:38:54 I guess we'll find out. All right so we are back on the Wade concept presented by the Ring magazine and folks Jake Paul Anthony Joshua has felt like a fever dream up until this point I can't even really put into words how unimaginable this fight would have been two, three years ago, let alone even now. I mean, we are talking about the former two-time heavyweight champion of the world and Jake Paul that's had 13 fights. And none of them against the top 40 fighter in the world in his own weight class, let alone one of the greatest heavyweights of this generation.
Starting point is 01:39:26 So with that being said, it was hard to wrap my mind around this thing even being real as it was announced as both guys signed on the dotted line. But today, folks, it's real. It's actually happening. We have our first press conference for Jake Paul versus Anthony Joshua. And I think the tone has been set. What do I mean? Jake Paul, Anthony Joshua press conference breakdown. And why I think for the first time in Jake Paul's career, he stood in front of a real killer.
Starting point is 01:39:52 And reality is setting in. He may have made a terrible mistake. What do I mean? The breakdown. Let's go. Make some noise for the one and only Anthony Joshua. He's a fucking monster Even before, and we're gonna get to at the end of this thing
Starting point is 01:40:18 Them standing face to face Even before you see that, this dude is a Unit this dude is just a legitimate monster of men 6-6-250 plus pounds And again, I know he's supposed to weigh in at at 245 But as we'll learn in a second No rehydration clause meaning AJ can go up to 25 to fucking 60 if he feels like it
Starting point is 01:40:40 Again, it's so hard. for me to even conceptualize it being real, but it is, and there he is, on stage, in fucking sane. He's the one and only the problem child, Jake Paul! Jake Poller, ooh! Whoa! Okay, fit check time, because we usually do this with Jake's press conferences, he gets crazy with the fits and most of the time they're nonsensical. I gotta give him credit. I don't know what's going on with the pants and the shirt, all that. That necklace, while I would never wear it, I couldn't pull it off, I'm an unk, I have no swag, I have no style. This This dude has got, and I saw this on his Instagram, he's got a 50 cow diamond studded bullet.
Starting point is 01:41:23 All of them are diamonds, but the 50 cow in the middle looking like fucking killmonger off Black Panther, dude. This dude is army fatigued out, the 50 cow bullet in the middle, that's nasty work in the entire message behind the fit. I respect it. It's war. Jake, I'm gonna start with you and I want to ask this question and I hope you know it comes from the most sincere and respectful place possible.
Starting point is 01:41:46 Are you all right, my man? Have you lost your mind? This is Anthony Joshua that you just called out. You're fighting Anthony Joshua in less than a month. Why are you doing this? I like to challenge myself. I like to take on the biggest, the best. I said anyone, any time, any place.
Starting point is 01:42:00 I truly mean that. And I'm here to go out there and shock the world. I know what I'm capable of. I see him and what he's capable of. And we're going to go to war. And we'll see the best man that will win. But people say, oh, he's out of his mind, all of these things. I've gotten to where I'm at today.
Starting point is 01:42:16 because of delusional optimism. And so it's delusion until it's not because look at where we're sitting today. No one ever thought that this would be possible that we would be here when I first started boxing. And no one thinks I'm going to win. So join the list and be ready to be shocked. Yeah, okay, this is a great little message to start out for Jake. And again, he is right. And I talked about this in my last video.
Starting point is 01:42:39 Jake's delusion has allowed him to reach places that normal people and people that don't think more of themselves than reality. states they potentially can do won't get to. So Jake gets all the credit for that in the world. Again, I don't know how many times I've said that. But delusion can also get you killed in this sport. And I mean that legitimately too. Like I've seen people die in boxing. It's happened, right? In this sport, people have had serious bodily injuries and unfortunately some people have passed. And again, I'm not trying to be morbid about it. But delusion can take you so far until you do run into reality. And Jake said, you know, it's only delusion until it's not. I agree with him.
Starting point is 01:43:15 But I mean it in a different way. I think this time, delusion has led him into a place where reality dictates. He's going to be separated from consciousness. Unless AJ shows up just out of sorts, uncharacteristic. Again, he's been in big pressure cookers, but maybe the pressure. I don't know. I just don't see a way logically where you can pick Jake Paul surviving this fight, genuinely. AJ, my man, Femi, it's good to see you.
Starting point is 01:43:36 Femmy. It's great to see you. How did this come across your radar? And could I ask, what was your initial reaction when you found out? out that there was a possibility of fighting Jake Paul this year on Netflix. Thank you for having me. Well, you got to give credit to Jake and his team. They reached out to me to be fair. And it was a great opportunity for me. So it's an opportunity for me to fight. I wanted to take 12 years out, 12 months out of the game.
Starting point is 01:44:06 12 years out, Jesus. AJ, you take 12 years out. You come back. That would be the age of a lot of Jake. Okay. I'm coming back to Jake Paul Mike Tyson too, son. done that and then it was time to get back to work so I was planning on fighting anyway and actually I would have been fighting this weekend if I had it my way and this opportunity presented itself and I said yeah why not it's great I think it's massive it's colossal it's making big news we're bringing market ability together with ability those two worlds collide you got Jake Paul versus Anthony Joshua and we're
Starting point is 01:44:40 here in Miami we're bringing Europe Africa Asia in Nigeria, the whole world together to watch this show on Netflix. It's going to be phenomenal. And that's how we ended up here, basically. Two guys that just want to put on a good show. You can't really fault AJ for doing this. I mean, this is a slam dunk opportunity. Outside of the fact that he's going to have massive pressure,
Starting point is 01:45:01 which we'll talk about in this video. And AJ will, and there's times where under massive pressure, AJ has crumbled. Now, again, it's been different pressure. It's been, you know, the Ussic fights, or even the Dubois fight or the Andy Ruiz fight, the second time around especially, even the second time around where he just essentially was relegated to a jab. There are times where AJ sometimes falters on those moments, but he at least tests himself in them, but
Starting point is 01:45:22 when you're talking about a Jake Paul fight, he was already, according to AJ, and I think he actually means he was going to fight on the ring four card. I think that was supposed to be like a surprise fight that was going to happen. And he was just going to do, you know, a fight versus, I think they said a top 100 guy at heavyweight. So AJ was going to knock the guy fucking spark out cold El Spocko. So it doesn't really matter. Like, is it a bad fight for him to be doing this with Jake if that's what he was going to go and do anyway? You're going to get far more eyeballs. You're going to get a guy that's not a true heavyweight in Jake Paul.
Starting point is 01:45:50 And you're going to get, you know, sponsorship, all this stuff. But the potential for AJ to get the attention back on himself for his last run at heavyweight for the amount of money he's going to get for this is no brain. Your longtime promoter, Eddie Hearn was saying, like, we don't think that he is crazy enough. Jake is crazy enough to take this fight. Was that your initial reaction as well? Like, yeah, this is all nice. It's nice to talk. but ultimately he is not crazy enough to fight me.
Starting point is 01:46:12 I don't think Jake's crazy. I think Jake's a logical person. He knows what he can do. He knows something within himself, and he's got good people around him that knows something about Jake that maybe a lot of us sitting here don't know. For example, I know a lot about myself
Starting point is 01:46:27 that many guys don't know. All he needs is belief in himself. All I need is belief in myself. AJ's like, I'm a reader on the weekends. Y'all didn't know that about me. Like, of course. We know what AJ is. He's a fucking,
Starting point is 01:46:40 killer at heavyweight. He's a monster. He's a guy that's, you know, come from rough background and fought his way to the belt, fought his way to a gold medal, refought his way to the belt again. We know. But no, let's be honest about it. Jake does have a screw loose. He is a little crazy. Yes, it's logical for the business side of things to take an Anthony Joshua fight because this will be a massive fight. It'll sell out. They'll do crazy numbers on Netflix. Both guys will get a massive bag, but that's all before the bell goes. When the bell goes, he still has to fight. And that's where the crazy unhinged side of Jake comes in. That's where the, you know, delusional optimism or the delusional self-belief comes in where most people scared for their health or an understanding of
Starting point is 01:47:20 the levels that are at play here. And the weight of this kind of fight would say, not even just literally, but, you know, metaphorically would say, yeah, that's a little too much. Jake is, like I said, got to screw loose. And everybody knows it. What is it about his game, though, that makes you confident that you can shock the world and beat him? Yeah, look, he's one of best heavyweights ever but I believe that fighting a smaller man is oftentimes harder as a heavyweight because of the speed difference and because of the foot speed because of the angles because of the head being off of the center and so all of that power is great and he's knocked people out I
Starting point is 01:47:59 just have to avoid that one shot for eight rounds and I believe that I can do that I know I can pick them apart and score points and make this a very very big contest. People say, oh, I respect Jake Paul for getting in there. No, respect me because I'm about to win. All right. What Jake has seen just based off his comments there, he has seen Usik dance on AJ, especially in the first fight, dance on him, right? He talks about foot movement. He talks about angles. He talks about his jab. He talks about moving his head off center. These are things that Usik tormented AJ with and then eventually brought the power in. I guarantee you, and again, I It is crazy for Jake to think he can fight on the level that Alexander Usik fights at
Starting point is 01:48:43 Because everybody else even the smaller guys that AJ has fought he's controlled him with his jab because he's 6-6 and has like an 84 inch reach or something If he really wants to which would be the the probably worst and most boring style of doing this fight AJ could probably just keep Jake on the end of a jab and win the fight with a decision and we all go what the fuck was that But I'm just saying he's done that before he did it with Ruiz in the second fight and even in the second usik fight a J AJ looked a little better trying to deal with that style. I think this would be a more interesting conversation had AJ never fought someone like Usick so that we could see what happens when they fight and so AJ could adjust. Jake is not Usick.
Starting point is 01:49:20 I don't know if that needed to be said, but it's just not the truth. And yes, you can try to take things that he did successfully, but I don't know, man. Jake was sitting down like you were locked in on him. You were zeroing in on him. I would imagine maybe one of the first times you've seen him in person. I want that chain. Okay. What shit is Dawson.
Starting point is 01:49:35 Facts. Chain is dancing. He said him diamonds is dancing over there, Jake. I mean, true. I mean, I'm like, give me that. We're going to war, baby. This 50 cows going in your head. Woo!
Starting point is 01:49:49 Okay, Jake, that's the energy I need. Talk to him now. I'll put the chain on the line. Uh-oh. I'll put the chain on the line, but you got to put something on the line. I'll put my chain on the edge. Jake should have asked for one of AJ's belts. Listen, I have seen Jake throughout his career do the
Starting point is 01:50:06 betting game and I know his tendencies. I'm surprised he might do it and if he does in the next press conference or sometime during fight week I want my credit but I'm surprised he didn't go yeah I'll put my necklace on the line if you put one of your belts take one of your belts whatever one you don't whatever sanctioning body you can't stand anymore give me that WBC give me that WB whatever I want that belt he's here to do his job I could sit up here as I said and try and address all the things that Jake doesn't do good but I'm fighting there Jake that's going to do everything good on November 19th. So let me focus on that. He's a good person, does his thing, great team around him, puts in the work, and that's why he's sitting here now.
Starting point is 01:50:43 Anyone out there in the world that works harder than the next person deserves to be a frontrunner, and he's a frontrunner in the boxing game right now. All right, now you're glazing, AJ. Now I'm playing. People are going to say that, and I'm probably going to say that in the comments, like, damn, okay, AJ's glazing too much. Is he not taking him? I think that's an indication that AJ is approaching this seriously. I know that sounds kind of weird, but not even going into like the easy route of, you know, when Ariel's trying to set him up to be like, what's Jake even thinking, like doing this? And then AJ could easily be like, yeah, he's not on my level.
Starting point is 01:51:14 Do the whole he's a YouTuber thing. I'm going to introduce him to the real boxing. I'm going to put his face in the dirt, whatever. But AJ is keeping this more cordial. Again, I think is a respect to Jake because Jake is there taking the fight, whatever. But also just to keep his mindset on the fact that he still has to do a job. You keep hearing him. I'm doing a job.
Starting point is 01:51:32 I'm a hired hitman. I'm doing a job here. that kind of focus is where he needs to be. Getting into the mud and doing the whole back and forth with Jake and even taking some of the bets can get you off that game and can add that pressure onto you. What AJ's doing is saying, I'm just going to come in and do a job like I would
Starting point is 01:51:47 if it was somebody else with no name across from me. I'm taking this dude serious because this is my fight, you know, my career. So I like that approach from AJ. Jake, can I ask, you know, it feels to me from afar, you're in a bit of a lose-lose here because it seems like a lot of people What? I'll let Ariel explain, but there is no way, shape, or form.
Starting point is 01:52:07 The only way, and the most dangerous part of this is that Jake gets, like, legitimately career-altering hurt, that would be the lose-lose. But if Jake gets knocked out, and obviously his health is okay, you know, knock on wood, we don't want anyone to come out of here permanently. I mean, again, that's probably not public sentiment, but I actually like Jake, I like Anthony, Joshua, I think they're cool dudes. But that's the only real lose here for Jake, because he is not expected to win a second of this fight, let alone a round or a couple of rounds or the fight itself.
Starting point is 01:52:36 But I don't see a lose-lose for Jake. People want to see you get obliterated, right? A lot of people want to see you get your comeuppance. And if you do pull off the upset or if this fight goes to distance, again, the whispers will start to come. People will discredit you. People will say, ah, this, that, and the other about the fight. How do you balance that and how do you deal with that?
Starting point is 01:52:54 Man, I've already won at every single thing in life. I'm playing on house money. I've accomplished all my dreams. said everything I was going to do from becoming, you know, the first influencer to become an actor on Disney, to becoming the biggest YouTuber in the world, to rising to the top of boxing and having the largest viewed fight in the history of the sport. I've accomplished everything. So this is a win-win and another challenge for myself. I don't actually think they did have the highest viewed fight in the sport. I still think that belongs to the Rumble in the jungle. But we have crossed all of the infinite earths to get to this specific earth where we have.
Starting point is 01:53:31 reside where Jake was on the path to becoming a Disney star and took a side track and became a boxer that has a fight with Anthony fucking Joshua. It's nuts, dude. Even hearing him talking about it, it's nuts. I've never been knocked down or knocked out even in sparring, but I'm in a sport where that happens. And I know this is dangerous. But this is no different than a soccer player, you know, losing. By the way, did you guys hear that? This is a very important thing that I think we should pay attention to. Listen to what Jake just said. I've never been knocked down or knocked out even in sparring, but I'm in a sport where that... I've never been knocked down or knocked out even in sparring.
Starting point is 01:54:10 There is a reality that most guys in the boxing space don't face until they do, right? He talked about earlier, delusional is only until it's not. Jake hasn't been hurt yet. I mean, maybe he's been hurt like pain, wincing, who knows, but broken nose. He hasn't been wobbled yet in a fight, and apparently according to him, even in sparring. If the first time that you get hurt, wobbled, dropped is against Anthony Joshua. How in the world do you deal with that? Mentally.
Starting point is 01:54:39 Physically. He hasn't even experienced it yet. And I'm not saying that, oh yeah, Jake, you should feel what it's like to get dropped. But it changes you. Everything about that fight can change in one instant. Yes, he's lost a fight, but he's never felt real, quote unquote, failure in terms of being sparked out. And I think again, it's not a bad thing because thank goodness he still has his health. but it can be in this matchup because that delusion that, you know, my chin is iron.
Starting point is 01:55:03 I'm never going to get hurt. That mentality that he kind of does need to have against AJ could get him walked on to a punch that shuts the lights off. And are you still being trained by Ben Davidson, Lee Wiley? Well, Ben be in your corner on the 19th of December. So no, I won't be trained by Ben Davidson. I said that London's a bit distracting for me. So I was invited to train with Team Usik. So I've been in Spain.
Starting point is 01:55:26 We've been doing some good training out in Spain. Yeah, buddy, it's over, dog. Hey, I'm gonna tell you right now, it's over, dude. Yes, it can take a while to ingrain yourself with a new camp. But if AJ has gone to camp Usik and his training with Usik's coaches, I don't see how that's not a net benefit. First off, love Ben Davidson, really helped out with Tyson Fury coming back out of retirement to fight Wilder, helped out getting Anthony Joshua's confidence back,
Starting point is 01:55:52 but it never felt like the right fit for him moving forward. And AJ has been with a ton of different trainers. at this point. A ton of different way. But going to the guy that was smaller, a better footwork outbox you to get you prepared for a smaller guy that's going to try to use better footworked outbox.
Starting point is 01:56:09 He's probably the best thing he could have done. We all know AJ's a destroyer. But sometimes he gets in his head a little bit too much. Sometimes he does more thinking and, you know, trying to analyze than fighting. He does need to be a destroyer in this fight, but he also needs to know what he's walking in there with and Jake's going to be a little bit,
Starting point is 01:56:23 he's going to try to be a little tricky. And I think try to walk AJ into the big right hand. That's what I think. get the big man's forward momentum to walk forward, hold the right hand as I, you know, off the back foot. And Jake does have some decent timing with it. But training with the team that produced the best heavyweight of this era? Bro, pack it up. It's over, dude.
Starting point is 01:56:41 But damn, that's a good team to be with. Does any part of you relish the opportunity of perhaps ruining some big plans for AJ and the team in 2026? Yeah, 100%. It's a massive mistake to look past this. Seriously, I'm putting a stint in all of those plans. Don't book anything. Don't arrange flights and hotels. I'm knocking this guy out, becoming the CEO of Matchroom Boxing and changing the plans.
Starting point is 01:57:05 And it's going to be me versus Tyson Fury next year. I like that. He said, I'm going to be the new boss of Matrim, new CEO. That's a little shot at Eddie Hearn. And I'm going to wreck all the plans for Big H.E. In the Ring magazine to get what we have now learned. It's not really a secret now. They want to have AJ fight in February against somebody, not sure.
Starting point is 01:57:27 And then in the summer have finally AJ. versus Tyson Fury. And Jake's trying to wreck all those plans. He said he was going to put a stint in the plans. And I don't know if he knows anything about stints, but stints actually open up blood, like, blocked blood flow and help with blood clotting. So you actually, Jake kind of was like,
Starting point is 01:57:44 I'm going to open up the plans. I've got to put a stint in that. That means that the plans are going to, they're going to flow real smooth. I don't know if he misspoke there, but I like the confidence. Again, it's delusional confidence. I do believe Jake believes that,
Starting point is 01:57:56 that he's going to do whatever he says he's going to do and stomp AJ or, knock him out or, you know, beat him and then go and take the plans that AJ had. And I agree with him that it would be a mistake to overlook this moment and treat Jake as if he doesn't, if he's the same level of boxer as Francis and Hannan. You better treat Jake even more serious, in my opinion, than you treat Francis. And people are going to say that's crazy Wade, but Francis was big and he was strong. Couldn't box very well, at least not on the level of even Jake Paul.
Starting point is 01:58:24 Jake's a better boxer than Francis is. No doubt about it. Can he hit his hard? No. Is he as tall, big, strong? No. But again, in 10 ounce gloves, you never know what can happen at heavyweight especially. So just, you know, AJ's showing up, not taking this seriously, not training and overlooking and how do I get ready for Tyson Fury.
Starting point is 01:58:41 That would be a mistake for sure. And that would be the one way that he could get caught. And this whole thing could flip the boxing world upside down. So that, I agree with Jake on. Yeah, I mean, look at the last time they came to America and what the plans they had were. Andy Ruiz stopped that. So this is Andy Ruiz 2.0. AJ, can I ask you about those plans?
Starting point is 01:59:02 Andrew Ruiz 2.0, son. And again, that is true. You know, they had Andy Ruiz on a bit of a short notice, came to the U.S., thought it was going to be easy work, and then we go, and funny enough, and they were like going to talk about setting up the Tyson Fury fight after Anthony Ruiz and all these big fights potentially wilder at the time, and Ruiz stopped all that. AJ cannot fall into the same trap that he fell into all those years ago. he has to have learned his lesson about overlooking people.
Starting point is 01:59:28 I'm not saying that Jake Paul is at the talent level, skill level, Andy Ruiz. He's certainly in better shape than Andy Ruiz. Good God, it was like a bag of milk watching Ruiz walk around. But again, this is why I say that there's all the pressure on AJ. He can't even look weak in this fight, let alone lose it. He can't look weak in this fight. He can't let Jake win rounds in this fight. Otherwise, again, to the public, that's a loss.
Starting point is 01:59:49 Are you viewing it the same way that the people around you are talking about it? What about fighting February? Well, they're saying we have a date in February, we have a date in the fall, the Tyson fight is being discussed, but you do have a fight already booked that's, you know how the game goes. Yeah, if I'm going to be honest, I'm going to break his face, I'm going to break his body up, I'm going to stomp all over him. That's my mentality, right? That's a fight his mentality, and I know what's in my heart. God, dang, okay. That was the AJ I wanted to see. The tone switch happened immediately. The mask slipped. for a second. All the respectful, hey, Jake has done a lot to get to this point. Respect him as a fighter.
Starting point is 02:00:30 Good luck. He's doing great things, good person. That went by the wayside for a second. And AJ's real mentality creeped out for just a second. I'm going to be honest. I'm going to break his face. I'm going to break his body and I'm going to stomp all over him. That's the AJ that needs to show up to this fight. And if that AJ shows up, those words will be prophetic. That's exactly what he'll do. And that's the exact reason I think Jake is bitten off more than he can change. At the end of the day, it's just what happens at the end of the night. I'm not in there to try and knock Jake out in 10 seconds or eight rounds. I'm going to go in there and do a job.
Starting point is 02:01:05 I'm going to want to hurt him. You know, I'm going to want to really hurt him in the ring. That's what I want to do. That's what I'm here to do. Do you see the difference in mentality when AJ lets the mask slip a little bit? When AJ says, I'm not, I'm going to hurt him. I want to hurt him. That should terrify everybody.
Starting point is 02:01:22 That sends chills down my spot. Because that's the mentality of a real killer. And Jake has seen killers in, you know, MMA coming over, but he's had advantages. Physical advantages in those cases, right? Boxing experience advantages in those cases. Youth advantages. In this fight, you don't really have any. Smaller man, less experienced, less dangerous, less height, less size, all of it.
Starting point is 02:01:43 Do you feel, you know, some of the talk has been the chin, right? Andy Ruiz, Dubois. Do you subscribe to any of that? Do you feel like there is a reset button there or do you- Say it, Jake. You were saying it on your YouTube, channel you were saying he's got a weak chin let's hear it let's hear it stand on base think that that is not fair to a j i don't think it's necessarily fair to a jay i just know that i have the power
Starting point is 02:02:07 and then come on jake you're supposed to be that that that shit talker dude you say it in your videos that he has a weak chin that he has a glass chin come on dude say it now timing it's the shots that you don't see coming that knock people out true and i'm a tricky knockout artists that people don't give me enough credit for. I've won knockout over the year. So he has to be careful. And I do have the timing, the speed and the, you know, the tricks up my sleeve to be able to hit a shot on this guy that he doesn't see coming that can put him to sleep 1,000%.
Starting point is 02:02:44 I don't disagree that Jake can hit him and hurt him. Jake can punch. He's a big kid that can punch. Now, he's not big compared to Anthony Joshua, but Ussick wasn't either. and Usick can punch and he hurt Joshua. Had him on Wobbly leg. Ruiz, a bit smaller, even though he was large horizontally and was able to drop AJ multiple times.
Starting point is 02:03:03 The difference when Jake says, you know, I'm a tricky knockout artist. I've won knockout of the year. There's context that he's leaving out. Yes, he won knockout of the year versus Tyron Woodley in Tyron's second ever boxing match. Yes, he's knocked people out at Cruiserweight. But again, I go back to as the level of competition rose for Jake, his knockout started to fall by the wayside.
Starting point is 02:03:23 Right? as he fought guys that were better at protecting themselves, and better at quelling what he does offensively, yes, he still had that power, but it didn't show up in the form of devastating knockouts. How does that translate not only to heavyweight, but against Anthony Joshua? How are you even going to get to it?
Starting point is 02:03:38 You're going to hope that he overextends on his jab? And you bang the right hand over the top? What's the, I have to know what the tricks are he's going to try to do, because I don't see it. Who's the opponent that you were supposed to fight this weekend? He's in Jake Paul's Cam. Who's that? What?
Starting point is 02:03:53 Yeah. Is he here? Who's come? What's his name? Oh, it's Cassius Cheney. That's right. Okay. And where was that supposed to be?
Starting point is 02:04:04 Already whooped that ass. Sorry, Cassius. Oh, damn. What was that supposed to be? He got a broken knee right now. Where was that supposed to be? That was going to be in Saudi Arabia. Okay.
Starting point is 02:04:15 Yeah, so we had a good plan lined up to fight in Saudi Arabia. Get on there, like, not even announce it, but just. turn up, ring walk. What's he doing? No. Oh shit. They were going to do a mystery opponent on the ring magazine card this week. AJ was going to be like mystery fight on the ring four card happening tomorrow.
Starting point is 02:04:36 Or as you guys see this today. That would have been sick. I'm not going to lie. But obviously you take the fight with Jake over this. And then you hear Jake and their team and even AJ kind of exposed it. Yeah, they brought my guy to their camp. I guess after this whole thing was set up and AJ wasn't going to be fighting. fighting on that card anymore, they found out who AJ was going to fight. And to test Jake against the
Starting point is 02:04:58 guy that AJ was probably going to flatline, they brought the guy in to see how Jake would do with him. And Jake is saying, hey, it's Cassius Cheney. He is 6'6 from Baltimore, Maryland, has a loss to Michael Hunter. That's some decent wins on here. That's some not so great wins. Jake said that was easy work and he broke his knee. Maybe that means Jake hit him and knocked him down and had one of those knockdowns where his knee got caught underneath him, I don't know. But I think, again, I will say, very good plan from Team Jake. Those guys understand the game better than most, and they have the finances to kind of just move things around very quickly.
Starting point is 02:05:31 They're like, oh, we're fighting AJ now. Let's get the guy that he was going to fight and see how Jake does with him. And Jake is acting like he did very well with him. So pretty interesting. By the way, for all these years, we always talked about Jake versus KSI and AJ versus Tyson. Who would have thought in the year 2025 we'd get Jake versus AJ? And the other thing.
Starting point is 02:05:48 facts that has been the most crazy part of this entire thing and when ariel says years Ariel has been talking about Jake and KSI for like the last two years maybe three the rest of us that have wanted to see Jake versus KSI has been talking about it since like 2019 that has been where the talks really have started and then of course yeah AJ and Anthony Joshua should have been fought for hey it's us the Jonas brothers and guess what we have some big news what's the news news news we've created our own podcast called Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast?
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Starting point is 02:09:53 My question to both men is, who has more pressure on them going into this fight? 100% Anthony. Yeah, 1,000%. This is something that's going to weigh on, right? Like, because of what you said, I'm going in there. I can fight free. If he starts getting touched up and losing rounds, I think the cookie will crumble. Okay, here's the mind game starting from Jake Paul.
Starting point is 02:10:21 This is something that he does very, very well with all his opponents. The mind games of I'm not supposed to beat you. And look at the resume Jake was built. This might be the first time where the pressure meets the actual narrative of the fight. Jake should have no pressure here outside of Don't Die. AJ's going to have a ton of pressure from the boxing community. from the UK boxing community, which right now, and pretty much always, is far more vocal, far louder and more involved than the U.S. boxing community.
Starting point is 02:10:50 And everybody already thinks AJ's going to knock him out. So if AJ doesn't do it or rounds go by and he isn't doing it, and like Jake said, he could get a little tense, things could get a little interesting in there, all of a sudden this fight flips. Do I expect that to happen? No. But the pressure is there on AJ and almost solely on AJ. Have the boxing fans you've been speaking to since this was announced been telling you that you need to knock this guy out? Do you know what it is? I don't.
Starting point is 02:11:16 I've seen it. I've heard it. But as I said to Jake, respectfully, I need to cut him up and I need to break him up and I need to hurt him. And that's just what we do. That's it. There's nothing more to it. It doesn't matter what anyone else tells me. Bro, there's nothing more cold than a line served like that.
Starting point is 02:11:35 Without anger, without malice, without theater, AJ just matter-of-factly being like, I'm going to cut you up, I'm going to break you up, and I'm going to hurt you. Because that's what I do. That's who I am. That's what I like. That's a cold motherfucking line.
Starting point is 02:11:48 It is. And it's not even a line. That's just reality. And that's again, going back to the way I thought that this video would play out, why Jake may have made a massive mistake is that in the boxing game, this is the first time he's going to step in front of a guy like that, right? He's stepped in front of guys like that. that if they didn't have the 10-ounce gloves on
Starting point is 02:12:07 and they could use their hands and grapple and kick and punch and elbow and knee, that he would have seen that from guys like Taryn Woodley, from guys like Anderson Silva. When it comes to the boxing game, he hasn't seen that dude with that level of ability and experience and that mentality just yet. Tommy Fury didn't have that mentality. He says he does, but it's different than actually being about that mentality.
Starting point is 02:12:28 AJ has been through the wars at the top level of this game. He's, like he said, come from nothing and fought his way to the top. He wasn't on Love Island, had a ton of money and was like, hey, my brother's a good boxer. I'm going to try this. This is a real killer in front of Jake, and it's completely different than anything he's ever seen. How's it going, Jake, Anthony? Hello. Travis, with weighing in with Travis Hartman.
Starting point is 02:12:47 I actually fought Terrence Crawford and the pros, and I went the distance with him and the decision that I lost. Let's go! I respect with you guys. Thank you, brother. I appreciate it. This first question is for you, Jake. Have you heard of a guy named Sam Girard? No.
Starting point is 02:13:03 Have you heard of a guy named Christian? Salano? No. Derek Campos? No. John Medina? No. Billy Daniels.
Starting point is 02:13:15 No. And the reason I ask that is because in Floyd Mayweather's 14th pro fight, he fought Sam Gerard. Canello fought Christian Solano. Terence Crawford fought Derek Campos. Muhammad Ali fought Billy Daniels. In your 14th pro fight, you're fighting Anthony Joshua. Joshua. How does that make you feel? Real quick, this face right here, believe it or not, this is what Jake wants more than anything. Jake wants the respect of the boxing world and a guy like
Starting point is 02:13:52 this guy, Travis Hartman, who was a pro boxer. People that do this sport, cover this sport, have been ingrained in this sport. He won't say it like this, but he wants that respect. And that's why you see that little grin out of Jake there. And yes, there's a little bit of glaze in that question and, you know, that seems like a very friendly question to Jake. But you know what? It's a fair question. I'm not mad at the guy for phrasing his question that way. And again, yes, that's because Jake has a massive name and a massive spotlight. Without that, Jake is not fighting Anthony Joshua in his 14th fight. But on the other side of that, the risk involved with fighting Anthony Joshua here and some of the fights that Jake had in his first 10 or 11 fights, most pros were either
Starting point is 02:14:30 having or having worse opponents for. So when people discredit Jake's career by being like he didn't fight this guy. He didn't fight that guy. He didn't fight a number of this contender, number that. Look at your favorite fighter in their first 14 fights and you pick out the opponents that they had and the level of them. Sure, you'll have your outliers or Basilia Lamaichankos and other guys that fought tough competition right away, but most, and I mean most meaning 95% of the sport of boxing, had tomato cans until he had 15 to 21. Give Jake his credit. He's fought guys that even more better on his resume than some of your favorite fighters. And now he's fighting Joshua this early. deserves the credit that I know in the acknowledgement that I know Jake is looking.
Starting point is 02:15:10 Do you think if you don't knock him out, that's considered a loss for you? Win or lose, if you don't knock him out, do you think that's a loss for you? Are you asking for me? Are you asking for you? Well, both. But in your opinion, if you go eight rounds and win a decision against a guy who's only had 13 pro fights, it's not, no, no, no, no, it's not that. That's not saying.
Starting point is 02:15:34 That's for you. Are you asking for me? Are you asking from your perspective? From your perspective? From mine? Yeah, is it a win for you if you just, if you just beat him? Or do you need to knock him out? I need to knock him out.
Starting point is 02:15:47 I like that. Why did you stop fighting? What? Why did you stop fighting? I got three kids. Yeah, focus, priorities. I got 46 pro fights, 170 amateur fights. I might get you in for some sparring.
Starting point is 02:15:59 I want to start a podcast because I love doing this. What's that? I might get you in for some sparring for Jake. AJ's going to spark the fucking The guy asking questions I like AJ's answer there And it's the only answer truly That he or anybody else can have
Starting point is 02:16:14 In this situation He was asking like Oh is it from your perspective or mine It doesn't really matter whose perspective it's from AJ loses in the court of public opinion If he goes to a decision with Jake Paul I don't care if he wins the fight He loses in the court of public opinion
Starting point is 02:16:29 Just like Tyson Fury lost so much respect and so much adulation when he took the Francis Ngano fight and then almost lost and arguably could have lost that fight. It was a stain. It was on the sport, on him by proxy. And people made up excuses like, oh, Tyson didn't take him serious. Oh, Tyson was overweight. But it still happened. And you can't take that memory away. And this would be of a similar stature for AJ. And people might even consider it a worse thing for AJ because Jake's not a natural heavyweight, because Jake's never been a champion even in another sport. They may go, yeah, losing rounds to Jake or going to a decision with Jake is even worse
Starting point is 02:17:06 than what Tyson did with Francis. I don't necessarily agree with that, but the point is, AJ has to knock Jake out. No question about it. It has to be the result. And I'm glad that AJ has the confidence to speak that and not go, well, you know, if it is a decision, then it is, and that's what happens. No, this has to end one way and one way only for AJ by knockout. Again, this is why Jake has no pressure.
Starting point is 02:17:29 AJ has to knock him out. And if he can't do it, Jake can go around for the rest of his career being like, okay, yeah, I lost to a guy with far more experience to me, but he couldn't knock me out. Couldn't hurt me. If he can't hurt me, none of y'all can't, you know what I'm saying? Absolutely has to be an AJ knockout. I want to ask a question for Anthony Joshua. Every time you've taken a defeat in your career, have come back better, stronger,
Starting point is 02:17:48 more motivated, and looking explosive. What does that set in you each time you take a loss and how motivated are you to take on Jake Paul in this bout? It's that grip. It's, I want to be out. Just as much as people want to see me down, the negatives, the people that don't believe in me is how much I wanna be where I need to be.
Starting point is 02:18:06 I'm just hungry, devoted, dedicated, and that's why I'm chasing, giving me more, all right, cool. Ben Davis, phenomenal coach, all right, you know what, Usik, Ben, what do you think? Ben said 100%, that's a great move. Went out there, spent time with the free time undisputed champ. They're killing me, drilling me,
Starting point is 02:18:25 but this is where I need to be. And that's how serious, I'm taking Jake. Respect to him. I'm not really fighting Jake. I'm fighting his mind. The psychological aspect of Jake that I need to break. A man who believes in himself, they say he's delusional.
Starting point is 02:18:40 I've got to break that delusion and bring him down to a reality check. Make him have a reality check in the ring. And quick question. Ah. Oh my goodness. And you see AJ understanding exactly what I've been saying is that Jake lives, and Jake even knows this on delusional optimism because he has. hasn't experienced yet what happens when that breaks.
Starting point is 02:19:02 What happens when reality fits its way in to the reality you've created up here? When that shatters and you're in front of a real killer that shows you that it is more than just delusion at this point. It's more than just self-belief that's going to get you past at this point. You're still going to have to have the attributes and the ability and the skill. That's what I like to see out of AJ. Like I'm not even fighting Jake. I'm fighting his mindset.
Starting point is 02:19:25 I'm trying to break that delusion and bring him back to reality. Official prediction. What is it? You got to tune into Netflix, December 19, to find out. We're not going with a specific round. You said knockout already. That's my dream. I'll go to bring it to reality. Jake? I can't say. Official prediction. I think a fourth or fifth round knockout by me. Jake's saying fourth or fifth round knockout. Interesting.
Starting point is 02:19:52 Surviving to the fourth and fifth would be a win again in my book for Jake. The knockout would be unthinkable. Face off time. Let's say. Go. An eight round heavyweight battle that is going down December 19th live and exclusively on Netflix. Oh my God. If you thought the Jake and Tank face off was ridiculous. Look at this.
Starting point is 02:20:15 Jake has got a fresh look at AJ's tities. He's about to motorboat them shits. He is eye level with AJ's pectorials. This is fucking crazy. Bro, looking up. I saw that after the press. AJ had a cold line. He said he went from looking down at tank to looking up at one. Ugh.
Starting point is 02:20:35 And it's true. I mean, again, it's not just the height. Look at the mass and the width and the build. Like Jake is having to build himself into heavyweight. And obviously you can't build height, but he's trying to put on size. Age is just naturally that guy, man. He's naturally just that strong ox motherfucker. AJ's bigger than Jake's bodyguard. You know what I'm saying? Like he's bigger than the guys Jake hired to protect him. And they can't. even protect him in this fight. That's incredible. And again, you know, body language expert time, whatever. I see belief in both guys' eyes. Jake isn't hiding from it. Again, delusional optimism,
Starting point is 02:21:10 delusional confidence. He's not hiding. AJ's not hiding from it. AJ's there to stick it on him. He walked right up on him. Like, yeah, this isn't some play about show. I'm here to knock you the fuck out. Ain't no sympathy here. Ain't no, hey, congratulations. You know, you got big balls taking the fight. No, I'm going to treat you like I treat everybody else. That's exactly what it needs to be. Oh my god It looks like Jake is trying to get into the club And the bouncer's like nah bro I need to see some ID
Starting point is 02:21:35 You're getting escorted from the club Oh my god Look at Nekisa Nika's like what the fuck are we doing Look at him shake his head I was like oh man What are we doing here? Again it's insane dude
Starting point is 02:21:47 Jake barely comes past his shoulder Jake you have officially lost your mind Anyway All right man there it is folks Listen we have so much more to get to with this fight breakdowns of styles, breakdowns of interactions, all types of different stuff that we're going to continue to do as we get closer and closer to this fight. But today was the first press conference
Starting point is 02:22:07 and I want to ask you guys, what did you see here? Both guys respectful for the most part in here. Jake was playing some mind games and honestly showing the delusional confidence that he has. AJ, matter of fact, there to do a job, not messing about with the mind games, not really playing back into him, not taking bets only there to cash checks and take Jake's head off. That's what we want to see from both guys. Confidence and danger on the line. And again, I think Jake has made a terrible mistake here that he doesn't even know yet because of that delusional confidence, because he's put on these big events and all the business around boxing has maybe put him into a corner where this is the event he had to do. Because of the tank fight falling through, because of the numbers of the Mike Tyson fight him, we talk about pressure.
Starting point is 02:22:48 That might be the pressure that Jake is under to build a massive event and to keep his name on that massive scale. But I think this time and this choice of Anthony Joshua, was a mistake. That's what I think. You guys let me know down below. Again, we are just getting started with this fight build. More coming. And the question I'll leave off with, who won this press conference, if anybody, between Jake and AJ? And does it mean anything for the fight? I don't have those answers. But folks, Christmas is coming early because we got Jake Paul and Anthony Joshua in one of the most insane fights I never thought we'd see. What happens on Friday, December 19th? I guess we'll find out. All right, so we're back on the way concept presented by the Ring Magazine.
Starting point is 02:23:27 Folks, David Benavides, El Monstro is back. He just systematically broke down, brutalized, and defeated Anthony Yard in one of the most dominant ways possible. And I'm not talking about a Devin Haney domination where he's putting people to sleep and not inside the ring. Not a shot. I'm just playing. Congrats to Devin Haney.
Starting point is 02:23:47 Winning a belt and his move to 147 pounds. Three division champion that cannot be ignored. He is an extraordinary talent. What he does next? I have no idea. and maybe work on some Xanax commercials. Okay, I'm playing. Bam Rodriguez was also dominant tonight.
Starting point is 02:24:01 And Amnilla Mason's an absolute dog. And I'm spelling that DAWG because that man gets down and throws bombs with people every single fight. Sam Noakes won a few fans tonight as well. But the main story and the only story that we're going to talk about today is David Benavides. As he stops Anthony Yard in the seventh round of this main event, what just happened and what's next for Benavides? Those questions got answered tonight and more. So let's talk about it to break down. Let's go.
Starting point is 02:24:29 All right, so main event time, Anthony Yard and David Benavides. I thought potentially any of the four fights on the main car could be made events. Maybe not Abdullah Mason, but made events for a lot of different cards, but they're packed into one knight of the champions card for Ring 4. A fantastic event that I think, again, showcased the best and brightest in the sport of boxing and from young to veteran to elite. You saw it all here, but David Benavides ends off the night, which was the right call because let's be honest, the Devin Haney, Brian Norman Jr.
Starting point is 02:24:59 Fight left a little bit to be desired as far as the action-packed card that was around it. But nevertheless, this was the main event, and David Benavides and Anthony Yard showed up for a war. That was the talking point leading into this fight that both guys were going to swing it out, that both guys were going to be in there and looking for blood, that both guys were going to showcase the old school of boxing. And that's kind of exactly what happened, at least on the side of David Vez. Anthony Yard, he welcomed to that fight, but didn't necessarily get as fully into it as Benavita. did as the fight started it was a more patient feeling out process in the first round for both guys but
Starting point is 02:25:32 you saw the tempo of the fight you saw how it was going to go from start to end which was david benabides on the front foot and anthony yard on the back foot and that was pretty much the story of this fight anthony yard trying to be a counterpuncher off his back foot i'm not sure what the reasoning was for that maybe okay we walk benavides into some shots and maybe we heard him off the back foot and then change the the tempo of the fight but when you're fighting david benavides you have to stop him in his tracks. If he gets the train rolling down the tracks, it's over with. It's him 18-wheeler going full speed ahead, combination punching,
Starting point is 02:26:05 to the body and upstairs as well. There's not much you can do about that when he is in that flow, when he is dogging it out on the front foot and land in heavy volume. If you're not able to do that and you're looking for that one shot off the back foot on the ropes, you're going to get dominated in a way that Anthony Yard kind of got dominated tonight. He didn't have the power to back David Venevarez off. And it's not to say that Anthony. N-E-R didn't land punches and he wasn't there for the fight.
Starting point is 02:26:28 He was, I just thought it was bad strategy and worse execution because he couldn't land a punch that got the respect to David Benavides. He landed good punches, but not one that would hurt Benavides like a David Morel landed on him or even earlier in his career when he was dropped. So it wasn't like the strategy was proving to be successful and they kept going back to it. Meanwhile, David Benavides started to heat up. As he does in fights, he starts little by little to break you down with that pressure, with that pace and with that volume.
Starting point is 02:26:57 And it was a masterful display. When Benavides gets it going, when he is on the front foot and he's looking for blood, man, he is one of the most special guys to watch because it's devastating intent. Round after round, you saw him back Anthony Yard into the corner, land combinations, bloody his face up. I'm pretty sure he broke Anthony Yard's nose, swelled his eye up and everything else. And at the end of the round, after David Benavides had walked a dog on him for, you know, a good two minutes or so straight, you'd see Benavides look at Anthony Yard's.
Starting point is 02:27:25 Yard like yeah I got more of that coming next round now you thought that was the worst of it I got more for you coming like it was pretty surreal to watch how as the rounds went on more and more David Benavides got more and more devastating more and more brutal as the fight went on and as we got into the sixth round I think Anthony Yard caught Benavides maybe it was the fifth I'm not sure maybe fifth or six caught him with a nasty sneaky counter right hand which was again a lot of what Anthony Yard was doing maybe he was trying to conserve energy because he is a bit of a bigger light heavy weight and he's really muscle bound so maybe he's thinking okay if I can get him into the last part or that last half of the fight, then I can really turn it up. But the problem with David Benavides is, as you trying to turn it up, he turns it up as well and he can go to a level that these other fighters at 168 at 175 and as we'll find out, after the fight at 200 pounds, they can't go to. He's got a VIP floor.
Starting point is 02:28:13 When he presses that button, that elevator keeps going up and there is no ceiling to stop it. And that's probably his greatest weapon. Like, you look at the two guys in the ring and you think Anthony Yard, the beast from the east, this massive muscled up light heavyweight and David Benavides, big guy, tall guy, but looks a bit soft to the midsection, doesn't have a ton of muscles and he doesn't need them. He kind of has the perfect build for this style of fighting, heavy volume punching, muscle memory to turn shots over. There were questions coming into this fight about David Benavides's punching power. He hadn't stopped anyone at 175. Can he punch with these guys at 75? Will his power carry over or was he just a
Starting point is 02:28:47 weight bully at 168? Turns out he got rid of Anthony Yard who stood there with Archer Better Bia and traded punches and he made it look easy as we got into that fifth and six round like I said Anthony Yard caught him with a counter right hand and he cut the bridge of David Benavides's nose and in the post-fight interview David Benavita said yeah that's the moment where I said okay you want to shoot out let's go already winning probably all the rounds I mean you can say yard maybe won one round I don't know which one you'd give him but I thought David Benavides was pitching a shutout and then decided to go to that next level again Anthony Yard you kind of asked yourself is he not letting his hands go because he's a little tentative of what's coming back or is he trying to wait out. Benevides,
Starting point is 02:29:25 we get into that sixth and then eventually the seventh round, you start to understand, oh, this is why Anthony Yard didn't want to get on his front foot. This is why he didn't want to plant in the center of the ring and go back and forth with David Benavides because he's going to lose that fight. The more times you open up to throw, the more times Benavides will counter you and he's going to throw three to four to five punches to your one. He's got incredible hand speed at 175. And again, devastating when it adds up. The more than not. numbers go and again I just maybe I'm wrong but it's not only just the numbers but it feels like he gets more devastating the power starts to hit harder as he goes through the fight and they get to the end of the
Starting point is 02:30:00 sixth round and one of the craziest things I've ever seen and again you see some of these highlights from benavides fights he's in the clinch and anthony yard has pinned david benavides right hand under his left hand and benavides on the other side is like cool you can hold this arm we're in the clinch I'm going to throw 700 left hooks in a row and they're going to all land to the body and upstairs it was like a video game the way he just kept going to the well reference Three wasn't separating him because one guy was working in the clench and one guy wasn't. And Benavides was trying to pop the head off a Pez dispenser. He was lighten Anthony Yard up with that left hand.
Starting point is 02:30:30 And again, you started to see it in rounds four, five, and six. He was breaking Anthony Yard down more and more and more. He started to see the physical anguish on the face and body of Yard. You started to see him not engage as much. You started to see him take that back step and look to play more defense than defense to offense transition. Benavides was systematically breaking him down. We get to the seventh round.
Starting point is 02:30:50 And this is how much of a game. Benavides is. He goes into that seventh round, not looking to let up, not looking to take a foot off the gas pedal, but looking to slam that pedal through the floorboard. As he got even more volume off in the seventh round, had Anthony Yard up against the ropes, hit him with a right hand, left hook, nose broken probably, bleeding profusely, and he punches him down to the ground. Let's say that again, he punched him through the ground. Now again, I think he bladed a couple as Yard was getting to the ground and his knee may have been touching the ground and Benavides landed a couple more. Referee took two points away from David Benavides in that moment, which I don't think I've ever seen
Starting point is 02:31:28 two points on one occasion like that. Maybe he hit him with two illegal shots, which is why. But Benavides was trying to put him through the ground. And again, I don't think it was like bad sportsmanship or he was trying to like, you know, do something against the rules, just got carried away a little bit. But my point is, that's how much violence he wanted to inflict even in the seventh round. And he didn't care that he got the two points taken away because about a minute later, he followed up even more and stops Anthony Yard with a nasty, brutal left hook. I mean, blood was flying through the air. It looked like a horror film in that seventh round. And it was a devastating left hook. The referee saw Anthony Yard start to get dizzy and wobbly. And I think one more
Starting point is 02:32:04 punch would have dropped him for good. But he steps in, the fight is stopped. And David Vez says, let me remind y'all who El Monstro really is. No decision victory. This was an absolute systematic destruction from David Bedevarez. This was huge for his name, for his career, or again, to re-exemplify that El Monstro mentality. And, man, I mean, I get goosebumps watching that kind of performance because that's the type of boxing I like to see.
Starting point is 02:32:34 That man is nasty and he's violent and he knows he is. and that's what he wants to be. That's what this sport is supposed to be. Yes, we have the sweet science of hitting and not getting hit. And there's nothing wrong with that. If that's your type of boxing that you like to watch, I understand. But boy, there is nothing like watching a dude like that. That's just a bad motherfucker.
Starting point is 02:32:54 Excuse my language. Go in there against another bad motherfucker and Anthony Yard, who's been there with other bad motherfuckers, and make him look obsolete. Make him look silly. Just make him look like he's not even in the same league as David Benavides. That's exactly what he did. Benevides keeps his WBC light heavyweight championship,
Starting point is 02:33:13 but then we got the announcement of all announcements. After the fight, you're thinking, okay, maybe Benavides goes and fights Archer Better Beav or, you know, we've heard the stories about him and Bivol sparring, but then we think maybe that Better Biav and Bivol are going to do the trilogy. It is 1-1. Although I'm not necessarily, I don't need to see the trilogy. I think we've seen enough from both guys,
Starting point is 02:33:31 even though if you want to do the trilogy, that's fine. But David Benevides swerves the whole thing. David Benevides says, y'all can have your trilogy. As a matter of fact, y'all can have light heavyweight. I'm going to cruiserweight. And I'm going to fight Zerto Ramirez, son. That's right. The WBO Cruiserweight champion of the world just fought and beat
Starting point is 02:33:48 Junio Dordicos. I think it was this year. Yeah, in June of this year. He does have one loss on his record, and it was to Dimitri Bivol at Light Heavyweight, but then he since moved to Cruiserweight. He's had some very good wins. I'm going to be honest, though,
Starting point is 02:34:02 he did not look great against Dordicos. And the way David Vez fights, with that type of volume, with that type of nasty, with that type of gas tank, he doesn't slow down. David Benavides might win that fight easily. I'm going to say that now. He might win that fight easily. We'll see what type of shape Zordo comes in. We'll see how he approaches that fight. Zordo, when he's on, when he's in shape, when he's taking a fight seriously. And again, I don't know what happened in that Dordokos fight, but he did not look good at all. He looked like a heavyweight in there. But when Zordo is on, his feet are moving.
Starting point is 02:34:30 He's a good volume puncher, great boxer. He better have some of that and more when David Benavita is rolls into town at light heavyweight. If not, that motherfucking monster is going to destroy even at light heavyway. He's got the frame 40. He's got the size. Hell, he's taller than me. I'm 6'4. I don't think David Benavides is going to struggle in that fight even a little bit. So Zordo better pack a lunch because I did not expect that announcement right here.
Starting point is 02:34:51 I'd heard the rumors that Benavides was going to go to cruiserweight to potentially fight Zordo. I thought maybe he'd say around his fight at light heavyweight before doing that. But Benavides is on the move and he said he's doing it. Here's the other interesting part on May 2nd. In other words, he's putting his flag in the ground. That's a Canello fight date. Canello fight time. That's usually May, September. Canello dominates those two dates in a year. David Benavides said, if you're going to run from me, if you're not going to fight me, I'll take
Starting point is 02:35:16 your dates. There's a new sheriff in town. There's a new star in Mexican boxing and his name is El Monstro. So yeah, man, what a fight. What a card. Ring four once again delivered, Turkey Al-Ashek, killing it with the matchups. And these fighters, understanding the opportunity that they have, the guys like Abdullah Mason, even Sam Noakes, even guys like Devin Haney, moving up and getting his third belt, dropping Brian Norman Jr. when all the talk, was about Brian Norman Jr. being the Devastator, being the knockout artist, and Devin comes up, drops him, and essentially shuts him out and wins a decision. Bam Rodriguez absolutely doing a number on Puma Martinez. That was nasty work, treating him like he wasn't even in the same ballpark, even in the same league, even in the same stratosphere. We'd love to see Bam and in a way, even though in a way is probably a little too big, but hey, we need some big fights for the little guys.
Starting point is 02:35:59 All in all, fantastic event. Let me know what you guys think down below. What's next for all those guys? What's next for the Ring Magazine is Ring 5 coming up in just a couple of. weeks. But Boxes is on fire right now. So make you guys stay subscribed here to the way concept and whatever happens next in the sport. Don't have those answers. But I guess we'll find out. Hey guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own
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