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Floyd Mayweather and many pack yow. are in talks for a rematch in big 2026. This is real. I am not lying to you. I would never do such a thing. But we have to talk about it. What is going on? Why is this happening?

And where is it happening? And it's not just that this is a potential rematch in talks. It's apparently supposed to be on Netflix. So what is happening? Why is it happening? Let's get to all of it. The breakdown. Let's go.

All right. So like I said, on the inside the ring, show on the ring magazine's YouTube channel, Malik's got Max Kellerman, Shady McCoy still doing his things somehow there. He's fair play to Shady. He's bringing the heat from the football world

into the boxing and copp himself Mike Coppager sat down to talk about this exclusive announcement from the Ring magazine. Let's take a listen. However, today Mike Coppinger has a cop bomb or what do you I don't know. You said I have singles.

It's like what is this? A double? This is big news, actually. But go ahead, tell the people. All right. So I am hearing from a reliable source is that Floyd, Mayweather and Maddie Pachiao, yes, more than 10 years later, a rematch is being seriously discussed to take place next year on Netflix. And Netflix, of course, is very much into eventizing these, wherever they put on, whether it's boxing or tennis.

And so far, they've done Jake Paul, Mike Tyson. They just did Mayweather. Sorry, they just did Canello against Crawford. And obviously, a rematch to Natewether and Packard. Pachiao, even at this stage, would classify as a big event for Netflix. And I think it's a real possibility this is going to happen. Mayweather is now 46, I believe. And Pachial is around the same age.

But look, this was the biggest fight in boxing history when it happens. And I think all these years later, a rematch if it happens, especially after the way Pachio looked in July against Barios, there would be serious interests. Yeah, I mean, all right, so there's the announcement. Apparently in talks, in serious talks. Sometime in 2026 on Netflix, Mayweather Pack you out to. And what cops said there,

I agree with a lot of it. Number one, I agree that this, regardless of the skill level, regardless of the time out of the ring, regardless of all of that, this would still be a very sought-after fight. And I don't know if that's a good thing for boxing that we continue to have to find,

I don't want to call it a gimmick fight, but we continue to have to rely on the past, the greatness of the past versus the greatness of the present to provide big monumental events. And yes, I'm referring to Mike Tyson, Jake Paul. But to be fair, we did just have Canello and Crawford on Netflix. So there's that. But I don't know.

I really don't know how to feel about this. Like, am I upset about it? No. Is it the thing I'm most excited for in 2026 for the sport of boxing? No. Will I watch it? Yeah, I will. Because this is a bit of a different thing than Mike Tyson, Jake Paul.

Both these guys are old. Both these guys, I mean, I'm just saying it like it is. They are. Both these guys were at one point, the highest level in the world. But when they fought, it was about five years too. late then, that was 11 years ago, and we saw how the fight went thin, what would make it any different now? The only thing I can think of is because they're a little older, a little slower, and they're still willing to get in there and do it, that maybe we would get more of a slug fest.

I still don't know if Mayweather's reflexes have diminished that much. I mean, we saw Manny Pachial go toe to toe with a sitting world champion in the sport of boxing right now in Mario Barrios. That may be more an indictment on the sport than this fight would even be. The fact that 46-year-old Manny came out of retirement after three years and went toe-to-to-to, really beat Mario Barrios, let's be honest. That's probably more of an indictment on the sport than this fight would ever be, but you're still going to get that feel of like, oh man, here come the Novelty Act fights, all right, this is what we're doing. I don't necessarily feel that way. You're going to get that feel with a lot of the hardcore boxing fans, but just like a Mike Tyson, Jake Paul,

just like a Jervante Tank Davis, Jake Paul, just like a Floyd Mayweather, Logan Paul. You're going to get more of an attention outside of your hardcore fan base from casual audiences to watch a fight like this. And in that way, it is a net good for boxing. It just means more eyes on the sport. That is a good thing. And again, this doesn't feel like as much of a gimmick because they are two legendary names in the same or around the same weight. They had already fought before. You're talking about pound for pound number one, number two greatest all time in those weight. I mean, you can argue for the heavier guy. I'm just saying these are two of the greatest. And if they want to do it, even in their old age, I wouldn't recommend it. But then again,

man, he just fought a world championship fight and looked okay compared to what he was in there with. So I don't mind it. I will watch this. I will. break it down, I will enjoy it. And yes, you can call it a novelty fight. You can say it's a one-off. You can say it's an entertainment fight. But what the difference in this and something like a Jake Dervante fight? There isn't an inherent advantage weight-wise, experience-wise. There isn't a sitting world champion involved in this fight if you're taking time out to do it. There isn't a massive age difference. This is two of the best in their time fighting years later. This is almost more so like the Roy Jones Jr. Mike Tyson exhibition that happened in 2020, I think. This is more like that

than it is, you know, Jake versus Mike. And the Netflix thing is a great move. I mean, Netflix is, I think, doing it right. When it comes to finding things that people want to see, grabbing attention when procuring sports for their platform, you don't see Netflix going out, no offense to, you know, smaller events in boxing or MMA or really anything, but you don't see Netflix going out and grabbing, you know,

a regular fight night to put on their platform. You don't see Netflix going out and showcasing high school football or even college football. You see them going after the biggest and, most watch events they can possibly make. And I think, again, that's a good thing that boxing is included in it at all, right? You're seeing these exhibitions with Jake and you're seeing the Mike Tyson, Jake Paul, fighting. And those do bring a ton of audience. Whether you like the fights or not, they do. And again, it brings more people to the sport. Do I wish that more people came to the

sport for, you know, championship bouts between guys like Tiafimo Lopez and Chaucor Stevenson, or that we could showcase the ring four card on Netflix for David Benavides and Anthony Yard and Devin Haney and Brian Norman Jr. Of course I do. But you have to find a way to remind people about the sport of boxing. You have to find a way to get it in front of a massive audience to then have that trickle-down effect of the people that come for to Mike Tyson Jake Paul, the Jake Paul Giovante Davis,

the Lloyd Mayweather Mani Pac-Yow. 16 years after it should have happened. Or even the Crawford-Conello fight and hold on to as many of those people as possible that are interested in this sport. And in that way, again, everyone eats. And I think it is good for boxing. Now, you're always going to have this discussion.

of like what's better for the sport is it a good thing is it a bad thing you're gonna have people that go no i don't want to see this because they're two legends and are gonna look like lesser versions of themselves than we remembered and in that way it may hurt their legacy i'm not one of those people i can separate the best from when they were the best to what they are now and if these guys were i mean Floyd's close to 50 he might be 50 at this point i don't even know this is going to be a lesser version of that but it's not like you know someone in their 60s doing this or even mike in his late 50s doing this and even then i could separate like jake paul b Meeting Mike Tyson in a probe out was not in any way, shape or form me looking at his legacy and being like, damn, Mike lost to Jake Paul's legacy done. No, he was 58. You know, I can still go back and see 21-year-old Mike Tyson or in his 20s in general and how that guy looked and who he was and what he meant to the sport versus what he was at 58 and they're two different people. You should be able to separate those.

But some people won't. And there will be a generation of kids that do watch this fight and go, well, these are supposed to be the greatest of all time. They don't look like that. These guys don't even look as good as whoever, you know, name the person that they want to watch, you know, whatever. So there is that risk you run, like, oh, that this is supposed to be the two goats, like, Manny Packyout, 8 Division World Champ, what are we talking about? And he doesn't necessarily look like that, but I will say, man, he looked decent enough. I get 46 years old versus Mario Barrio, so he still got it at least to some degree.

And we've seen Floyd in these exhibitions, you know, with Leah Gotti's stepbrother. If you know, you know. John Gotti, the third. We've seen him against Logan Paul. We've seen him in these, these edgy, these exhibitions where he still has his reflexes. He still can fight, but oddly enough, this might be a hot take. When I watch it this second time around, you know, Manny had the shoulder issue the first time in 2015, and they were still at the top of boxing, but their skills were fading.

But this time around, they mean a little older, a little slower, you may get a better fight out of it, not necessarily a better looking aesthetically or higher skilled, but you make it a better, just a generally better fight. And again, you do something like this because it was at the, time, it still is, the most watched behind pay-per-view fight ever. They generated $600 million, I think, or something like that, for that fight.

And that was the fight that everybody wanted to see. And if you can capture that same feel behind Netflix, which doesn't, I mean, yes, it has a paywall, but it's not paper view behind that, you're going to get a lot of people that tune into this thing once again, just for that last go-around, that last ride off into the sunset.

So, listen, I don't think we're going to see anywhere near the skill that we would have seen, had this been 2011, You know 2010 when it should have happened But we still are gonna get a decent enough fight and I you know I get both sides of the argument here when you're talking about Do we want to see it? Is it really good for the sport? Do we really need to see it? Are we gonna have a better way of building the next generation of fighters? To where we don't have to rely on these big one-off You know exhibition type fights? I get all that and I hear it all

But I also think there's something to be said for if guys still have the ability if they still are with it Mentally and physically and they still can draw a crowd who's to say that we should stop them from fighting. It may not be the best look that this is who you get the biggest viewing numbers for, and that should be an indictment on boxing building its next generation of stars, but just like a Jake Paul Mike Tyson card, just like a Canelo and Terrence Crawford card. You use those big names in the main event

to have the trickle-down effect of all the fighters underneath that card. So yes, you have the novelty act kind of way too late rematch at the top of the card, but then you have potentially a Shakur Stevens, a Tiafimo Lopez, potentially a Ryan Garcia Devin Haney, potentially a Abdullah Mason, Emiliano Vargas, potentially a Moses at Talma, Gio Pataya, like these names of the great boxers that currently reside in their divisions

that we don't necessarily look at as those guys that are coming up or maybe that the casual audience doesn't necessarily know yet, you utilize that undercard for those type of guys and hopefully the eyes that are on that card, just like a Jake Paul Mike Tyson, get to see 75 million people watch Katie Taylor and a man of surround.

you get that same kind of a trickle-down effect for those fighters, and they become more popular because of it. That, I think, would be the best case scenario. Here is Malik Scott talking about what he thinks of the fight. I piggyback off of what Shady was saying. I actually believe people will feed into it heavy because we're talking about two of the elites of all time. They both are extremely technically sound.

They both are known for what they have done in the ring. Obviously, Mayweather got the huge promotion market behind him. So does Pacquiao. I just think it does numbers. And I also would be like a huge fan of it. I think the way how Floyd is looking lately, whether it's in a gym and the way how Pacchio has been looking in his last fight, I'm really into the fight if they're going to do it again, especially if it's going to be on the best stage in the world, the ring, the Netflix, and the same type of numbers. Again, I kind of agree with that. Now again, I know it's not the most consequential fight ever.

But if they still are with it and both guys have shown physically and mentally, they are still with it. If they still have an ability, if they still have a hunger to fight, and yes, it's a money fight. We get that. But this time, the stakes aren't as high. We don't have world championships involved. You can kind of free up the rest of the division because people are talking about Manny Pachiaw fighting for another world title. Let's not do that.

Let's have him go over here and fight this thing with Floyd because they're at the same stage of their career. They're at the same or similar skill level. And we always ask the question, what happened if they fought earlier? But now we would get the answer to what happened if they had fought again with a healthier or relatively healthier Manny Pachiao or later in age when Floyd slows down. I don't know.

But you are going to potentially get. some of the questions answered there of one of the greatest tundoms of fighters that we never got to see at their prime. But hey, if we get one more time around and one more doci do, I'm not going to say no to it. I am fully aware and into this fight. I like this fight. And again, it doesn't mean that it has to be consequential for the sport. And maybe in the grand scheme of things, you want to get away from stuff like this because it does outshine the current talent in the sport, right? You don't want to have to rely on hitting the old fateful, which is let's pull somebody out of retirement because everybody knew them. No, you want to create new stars so that people do know them. But for this, because it really

doesn't affect the sport as a whole, because it's almost off on its own island, I say yes, I'm into it. You guys let me know down below what you think. Breaking news, 26. It was supposed to be Floyd and Mike Tyson, which I was not into at all. Thank goodness that's not happening because I just don't why. It makes no sense. We're talking about Mike who's going to be 60 and Floyd, who yes, is still going to be close to 50 and the weight difference and that seems like a lot more of a circus freak show than this ever would. Give me this fight if we're going to do something like this, put it on Netflix, have the boxing people that recognize those two names come in, see a very talented undercard, become fans of those guys, and elevate the sport. That's what I

think you guys let me know down below. What happens? Does this thing even get off the ground? Is this for real? Lloyd Mayweather versus Manny Packow 2026 on Netflix. I don't have those answers, but I guess we'll find out. All right, so we are back on the way concept presented by the Ring magazine and today I wanted to make this video I really wanted to make it in the last video we did I know I'm talking a lot about UFC 321 and Tom Aspen all surreal gone John Jones this entire saga but I can't get enough of it I'm enjoying dipping my toe back in the MMA space as well who knows maybe maybe it's not a toe dip maybe we dive in but today I I said something on Twitter after UFC 321 that I am starting to see more and more as a reality of the situation and that is

that Dana White hates Tom Aspinall. I can't unsee it. It seems like every time I look at an interaction with those two, and especially had the post-fight press conference with Dana White, after Tom Aspinall gets poked in his eyes, and again, not his fault, can't really do anything about it, and can't continue fighting because he can't see, because both of his eyes have been poked.

Dana had a, let's just say, less than supportive response, which I pointed out here, uh, seems pretty insane because that's his heavyweight champion of the world. and I just quote tweeted a Happy Punch tweet by saying, oh yeah, no, Dana hates Tom Aspinall because of the video we're about to watch. Why does this keep happening? It's a familiar pattern, Dana White,

having issues at the top of the food chain, especially with his heavyweight champions, and I'm going to get into what I think is exactly why. It's not just money. That's part of it, but it's a long list of things. What do I mean? The breakdown, let's go. All right, so here is Dana White

talking about the surreal gone Tom Aspinall situation after the fight on Saturday night. And let's just hear his response to what it is that happened. And the questions being asked and just how the head man of the UFC goes about answering what clearly was not Tom Aspinall's fault, getting poked in his eyeballs and how he's there to either support or promote his heavyweight champion. Let's take a listen at this. Obviously, not a way we want to see a main event and any fight. And give us your reaction to the eye poke and how it all went out. I mean, I feel the way everybody feels. Great showing, a shitty ending, you know.

I think that after the Jones fight, a lot of people wrote Cyril Gone Off. He looked damn good tonight. Yeah, what did you think about the... All right, so first off, yes, what Dana says is true. Like, a lot of people did write Cyril Gone Off for this fight. Surreal performed better than a lot of people thought he would. Tom, I thought, performed how I assumed he would in the first round. I thought the second would be a little bit of a different story.

But Cyril was better than I thought he would be. And a lot of people thought he would be. And for the people that thought Tom was just going to bulldoze Surreal, this was a reality check that MMA math doesn't work. Just because John Jones beat someone in two minutes doesn't mean that because Tom, you feel, is better than John Jones, he's going to beat him even quicker, right? It's not how it works. Stiles make fights.

And that's why you can't make the comparison on the other side, that John Jones is so much better than Tom Aspinall because he beat Surreal Gan. Yes, it's a common opponent, but by that logic, like, it took John Jones' decision to beat, and he really didn't beat Dominic Reyes or the Gus of some first fight. Like, you could do that all day and be like, well, this guy beat him better. It doesn't really matter.

But notice there, Dana didn't answer his thoughts on the eye poke. He just said, I feel how everybody feels, and Surreal looked good. Nothing about Tom there. What did you take from those four minutes? Good. Look like we were in for a few rounds and it was going to be a good fight. It would seem obvious that a rematch is right on the cards. Would you like to just rebook these guys as soon as Tom is able to get back in there? Yeah. Total pain in the ass, but yes.

Yeah. Have you got any meddle? Again, it's a total pain in the ass. And he's right, yeah, it's a pain in the ass to have to do this again. But there is a silver lining that, yes, you now get maybe a bigger fight than you would have. This is one of the worst things that could have possibly happen on this, card for sure, especially seeing as the UFC has this relationship with, you know, Abu Dhabi and the Middle East, and this is them paying a shit ton of money for this fight to kind of flop like it,

not even kind of, it flop. And so did the majority of the card, really. There were great performances, but as far as name value, monetary value, the whole thing, wasn't a ton of star making performances. Outside of Quillin, uh, Sal killed, that guy, I'm going to be watching everyone of his next fights. But look at Dana's attitude toward it. It seems like he's just more upset, like, you know, pain in the ass, we got to do this again. Not like, oh, I hope my heavyweight champion is all right. I don't know. Just watching him answer these questions,

there isn't really any thought given to the actual eye poke and how it's affecting Tom, more so just like, oh, got to do this shit again. Like it seems like he doesn't want to deal with this situation and not just Aspinall gone, but really Tom Aspinall. Again, I could be reading too much in, but that's just the way I'm hearing him. It almost seems distraught and kind of like I'm fed up with it.

update on Tom or is it still in too soon? He's on his way to the hospital. It's a bit of a weird question, right? It was ruled in no contest because of an unintentional ipoke. What does it take to make an ipoke intentional? And is there even a way you could ever prove that? Who gives a shit? What are you going to do?

What? I don't mind the answer. You can tell he's fed up. He's pissed that this is the way the thing ended. And I get it. We're all pissed. That's not the way we wanted that fight to go. But it's a good question.

That's Oscar Willis with the... MacLife asking about the intentionality of strikes and how do you even determine it? Because essentially this fight was ruled in no contest because they determined that, and I think rightfully, that Cyril accidentally I poked him, and because the intention was not mal, malintent pars, that you can't disqualify him. And because Cyril was probably winning that round. Now there is a bit of a gray area when you talk about the intentionality of strikes landing and what that means.

Like does it matter if you intentionally foul someone because you still fouled them, you still have to pay the price for fouling them. This is why I'm in favor of taking points. Immediately no warnings involved. But if the fight is stopped, should that not be a DQ? Should it be a no contest? I really don't know. I feel like a no contest is the right call because it was so early in the fight,

because, again, to me, was a mistake that if Cyril Gahn makes that mistake whilst winning, I don't know. It just doesn't feel right to go full on DQ, but he is the reason that the fight was stopped. He is the reason that the fight could not continue, and it was because of a foul. So it's a good question, but you hear, Dana like, ah, who gives this shit? It just, I don't know, it feels like a checked out Dana White. It does when he answers questions like that. Like, not even giving time to answer in a way that, you know, he could spin it into promoting the next event or spin it into, all right, you know,

we do have to figure this out because I'm tired of this shit happening. Here's what I'm going to do. Here's how I'm going to make a difference to eliminate this from the sport. And I don't know that you can with Ipokes. I don't know that you can in any way assure it's not going to happen, but just that the answer itself is what I'm talking about. He's like, I don't, who gives this shit? Who the fuck knows who gives a shit? That doesn't scream a guy that's locked in when his heavyweight champ. Potentially at this point, he doesn't know.

He's got a really bad eye injury. And he's like, ah, who gives a fuck? You know, like, that's kind of crazy to hear. I know we, you know, tried to do new gloves before and that kind of didn't work out. Is there anything we can do to stop these eyepokes? Would you ever look at maybe trying to change the gloves again? Or is it just part of this sport? Just shit happens.

Yeah. I mean, no matter what you do with the glove, I mean, they're going to happen. And what did you think for the rest of the... It is going to happen. Regardless, I do think they should change the gloves. I think that the pride-style glove where they cup the hands purposely, even if your hands are open, that they're going to have the fingers kind of bent back towards you more than straight out. But then again, if you raise the hand up and those curved gloves are this way, if you're trying to catch stuff, then... I don't know.

You're never going to fix it completely. But it's funny when Oscar Willis talks about, you know, we tried the new gloves for a little bit. And the new gloves, when the UFC introduced them, were a bit more curved. They did have a bit more of a curvature to him. And funny enough, the guy that had the most trouble with them and didn't want to wear him. And I'm not, I don't know if it was solely because of him, but they tried them out. John Jones fucking hated them. Didn't want to wear them.

Refused to wear them against Cyril Gone. And then they did go back to the original glove. Most people said that was because of the issue of guys not knocking people out and, you know, fights not being as explosive. I don't know the reason, but one of the bigger people that had an issue with the new gloves when they tried him was the serial eye poker himself. The man that should be in a mo and curly three stooges skit, it's John Jones. He was gouging eyes, dude. It was almost like sign language the way he was poking fingers out at people. It was clear. He was a problem and still is if he ever fights again. So I don't know if that has anything to do with why the gloves went the other way, but we all know that

Dana, he fancies himself some John Jones as the goat. So you can tell where he's leaning in that back and forth. If John or Tom were to have an issue, he's going to side with John Jones. And I know that you said you'd want to do the rematch between Tom and Cyril. It's very fresh, but any potential timeline for that, like maybe January, the kickoff the Paramount card? Yeah. I mean, they're both in shape other than whatever's wrong with his eye. You know, both guys are not injured or so as soon as possible.

Thank you. Thank you. Then I, what about, what about? Yeah, I think that if Tom, which we've seen Tom's video now, we did a breakdown on that a couple days ago. I think that if Tom is healthy, then it would be a perfect situation. I mean, knock on wood, nothing bad happens again because you can't have a, you can't have, oh God, I'm going to put it out there.

You can't have another flop for your first fight on Paramount. If you guys remember the JDS and Kane fight, I think was the one on Fox. when they debuted and it was a something, I forgot what happened, but it was a shitty first debut when the UFC first went to Fox. It was not a great night. You can't have that kind of thing happened. So again, hopefully nothing

bad would happen again for these two. But that would be a perfect landing spot for Tom Aspinall and Cyril Gan is that first Paramount card in January because you're kind of booked out to the end of the year and you do want to make a splash on that first card. They were thinking maybe it'll be Ilya, maybe not. Now you have

a perfect opportunity to slide this. fight in there people are going to be more interested in it and there's going to be a bit more of a buzz based off this first fight based off the controversy and based off the performance of both guys did the time that we saw them fight so i think that would be a perfect spot of the rule it's only the second time in a championship fight that we do have a no contest for such thing uh we just have to go by the judges and the fighters will that's just the way it is for him to say after five minutes i can no longer continue. What I'm trying to figure out is, is there different levels of Ipox? You see what I'm saying? Nobody sees what you're saying, sir.

What kind of question was that? I guess what the guy's asking is like, is there a way to determine severity of Ipox and is there a way to, based off that, delineate between no contest and disqualification. And the answer, as of right now, I don't think, unless you saw like a John Jones thing where his hand is fully extended and his fingers are parallel to the ground, he is like, you know, on purpose, like, I'm going to stab you in the eyes of you come any closer type of thing. Like, he's jabbing with his hand open and he's like, ah, I don't know if there's a way to determine intentionality, but that would be the way to delineate between no contest and disqualification. I think it was MMA guru that said he would like to see if you're down on the

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I actually thought it was. I got that wrong. Listen to the Nick Dick and Paul show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You're up, then no contest. But I don't know, man. I think there just needs to be a clear, one rule application for everything. If that means you get DQed as soon as you eye poke someone and they can't continue, then fair. Okay, if that's what we need to do to make a concrete rule on these things, yeah, it's going to suck.

But that at least discourages it to a point of like, I may lose if I do this, even if it's an accident. So let me be extra cautious on it, right? Like, we have these kind of things in place for head kicks when people are on the ground or, you know, what used to be 12 to 6 elbows. Like those things are pretty hard stance. You don't do them. Or you get DQed. Maybe we can do something like that for eye gouges. It's only up to the fighter to stay whether or not he wants to continue.

Yeah. That's just the way it is. Oh, yeah. What am I to say? Hey, Tom, yes. No, you're going to keep fighting. Serial tried to tell him or go toward him and Jason Ersox said don't talk to the opponent at that point. So I guess they were trying to figure out to one another.

You can't. Just like, you know, I can't make people fight. Right? if I want to put together a fight, I can't make people fight. And you definitely can't make somebody continue if they feel they've been injured. Only Tom knows what happened. You know, could he see, couldn't he see, could he continue? Only he knows that.

This is what I'm talking about, man. Again, you see the way he answers that question. Now, again, the question was asked really weird. Like, oh, only the fighter can determine that. And he kind of walked Dana into saying, like, again, how do we make a concrete ruling here. But again, we're talking about Tom's choice, in Dana's words, choice, only he can decide whether he wants to fight or not, to continue fighting with no vision in one eye and blurry vision in the other versus again, I don't think Surreal did it on purpose, but Surreal committed

the foul. He is in the wrong here. Tom is not in the wrong. And the same way I said this about Henry Suhudo and Song Ya Dong where he got Song Ya Dong in his fucking eyeballs, you can look at this fighter as a referee and ask him what he wants to do. And that's a terrible way of judging in my opinion because the rules should protect a fighter in this moment more so than the old you know pull yourself up by your bootstraps and get on with it fighter because in every scenario where a fighter not every but a lot of scenarios where a fighter continues on after being eye gouged they lose dc in the steepe fight steepa in the dc trilogy as well henry sohudo song yodong these are things that continually happen because they're compromised and for dana

to sit there and talk about well only tom knows if he could see or not and i can't make guys fight. I can't make them while not giving any sort of like, hey, yeah, surreal fucked up. It's his fault that this happened. And if he doesn't do that, then we're not having this discussion. We don't hear that from Dana. I mean, he's not saying it, but he's kind of saying, only Tom knows if he was really hurt or not. Only Tom knows if he was looking for a way out or not. Like, he's not saying those specific words, but he's essentially doing that. And that's fucking crazy. Tom, we saw go to the doctor. He described it as his eyeball, feeling like his, his eyeball was poked into the back of his skull. That's what happened.

Again, I don't think the intentionality really matters when we're talking about who should be, you know, receiving the blame for this. And it really shouldn't even be like who should be receiving the blame. How do we go forward having confidence in the heavyweight champion of the world? If not only the online fan base is like, oh, look at Tom scared, quitter, blah, you have the freaking head of the UFC being like, well, I don't really know. I can't make him fight. You know, only he knows. What are we doing? I was disappointed in the way this fight was built up.

I'm more disappointed in the way this is being handled at the presser. This is crazy. You try not to venture into having personal bias, but Dana clearly likes some fighters and doesn't like others. I don't know how you look at this and don't think Dana has a bias. So like not like Tom Aspinall because that's what he's telling us here. First of all, I can sit here right now. The fight just got over over long ago.

What makes sense is to do the rematch. It makes sense. You know, sitting here tonight, I said, yeah, that makes sense. I'm not saying that's what's going to happen. Anything that happened between now and, you know, when I get him, we're not talking. this Tuesday, I go from here to Saudi. I go to Qatar, then Saudi. I'm still here for another eight or nine days. So I don't know what's going to happen. I'm not saying anybody's going to be a number one contender outside of Cyril Gahn. I don't know. But right here, right now, being

honest, which I never do this ever, is talk about, you know, what next fight's going to happen. The rematch is what makes sense. I was going to say he's talking like the rematch may not even be the thing he wants to do or that they go with. He's like, I'm not. saying that's what happens next but it makes sense if you don't give this fight a rematch that would be even worse i mean yeah you could do like imagine tom is like oh i'm not going to give that guy a rematch that cheater or whatever and you do tom versus volkov too ah you have to ride this wave you have to i think dana wants to see it out and see the rematch but there's so much now built up to this fight there's so much attention around it it would be a flat fucking miss to not doing again ironically

This I poke has garnered more attention around this fight than it ever had before any of that stuff. This fight, it was a big fight for the people in the MMA space, but now it's reaching other levels of casual fans that are going to be locked in for the second one because they're on one of two sides. They're on the surreal as a cheater. Fuck that guy. I hope Tom knocks him outside. Or Tom Aspenol quit. He didn't want no part of it. I hope Surreal gets the job done even more this time.

Like, you're seeing these splits happen right now in the MMA scene. you have to run with it. With the few things we've seen into this fight, I feel like Cyril was doing pretty well. Do you feel the same? And do you feel that he's earned respect so that people would care even more when you make this fight again and the odds would be more equivalent?

Yes. Yes, I agree. I think that I said earlier because of the John Jones fight, I think everybody was sleeping on Cyril gone and sort of rode him off. I agree. And he's right behind me. He's coming in next.

So you guys can ask him, how he felt but i feel like you know i'm sure in his camp he was training like a animal for this fight and uh it's unfortunate that it ended the way that it did and yes i think that there probably will be a lot more interest in the rematch after they saw you know i mean he had tom bloodied up and um you know tom didn't didn't want to continue in the fight so the rematch is very interesting a question that way, if you fucking hate your heavyweight champion, you can't convince me otherwise. Yes, the question was asked about surreal, but Dana attributes all of the things that happened good in the fight to just surreal gone. You hear him talking about, you know, people wrote

surreal off. I agree with him, by the way, based on the John Jones fight, people did write Cyril gone off and say that Tom was going to run through him and all that. But you hear him then go, yeah, you know, I bet Surreal was training like an animal for this. Not mentioning that Tom Aspinall's been out for 15 months. He was probably training his ass off too, no? And mostly the time he took off was because he was trying to lobby for a John Jones fight that the UFC never got done for it. This is the way a fan of Cyril or John Jones and a hater of Tom Aspinall speaks. Again, maybe it's just me reading too much into it. That sounds like coded language like yeah, Tom didn't want it anymore. You know, like yeah, he had him bludied up and he just didn't want to go. No, he got his eyes

gouged and he couldn't see. What are we talking about? This is your heavyweight champion. And again, I have to think you only speak this way if you have a preconceived bias. And I say preconceived because I don't think this just developed tonight. I don't think this just happened where, you know, Dana just decided, ah, fuck Tom Aspinall, he's a quitter or whatever. I think it's because of the things we've talked about in previous videos like something like this, this week from Andy Aspinall. Which, by the way, I will say is a terrible, terrible thing for Andy Aspinall, Tom's father and head coach to be doing during fight week, talking about how he's going to take Tom out of MMA and take him into boxing because the pay's better over there. They only have a couple of fights left.

And that he doesn't want him to sign a new contract with the UFC. This is stuff that you don't do as the sitting heavyweight champion because all it does is burn bridges with the decision makers at the UFC. You said that you wanted a boxing champion. You're okay with an MMA champion, but you wanted a boxing champion. Boxing for sure. The money is more money? More money? Why not?

Would that be an outcome for him? No. He's three more fights on the contract, though. Okay. And I don't want to sign a new conference. Okay. Personally. Now that was before the fight.

Tom now has two fights left on his deal. And man, I just have a feeling it's going to be a rough two fights. They're going to try to give Tom Aspinall. Because again, if you remember back, when Dana White had issues with Francis and Gano heading into the last part of his career, remember, Dana White was all aboard the Francis and Gano train when he was going to fight Steepay for the first time. Dana White, remember, he had some issues with Steepay at that time. All the talk was about Francis, how he hits harder than.

than a Chevy cruise going 20 miles an hour or something and how he's the most devastating whatever in heavyweight history. This is all things that were being said about Francis and Gano before the first Stepe fight. And then Stepe beats Francis. I'm pretty sure Dana didn't put the belt on Steepay after he beat Francis. Again, a little sign that there wasn't a great relationship there. I think Stepe took the belt, gave it to his coach and let the coach put it on him.

And then Dana got in the press conference afterward and I think was trashing Francis a little bit. He wasn't prepared. He was smelling the roses and all that. And then he got back on the Francis train. Francis started to get those wins back and beat Stepe the second time. And all of a sudden, Dana White was saying John Jones shouldn't come up and fight Francis. He don't want that smoke, essentially. And then, as things played out a little further,

and Francis got toward the end of that contract, and you started to hear Dana White talk about how Francis had the wrong people around him and how he was hard to deal with. And Dana can be right about all those things. And it maybe is that we're seeing more and more now with Francis. But the point I'm making is this is a pattern of behavior. If you give Dana an opportunity to look at you as somebody that's not going to be good for business, that someone that doesn't want to do business,

or that someone that's going to turn their back on the UFC, he's not going to like you. And this is why I think he's starting to hate the Aspinalls and Tom Aspinall in general, not to mention one of the cardinal sins when you're dealing with Dana White. One of the things he hates more than anything, and I agree with him on this is a champion that won't fight his friends. And again, it's not like any other sport where you're playing the sport against your friend, but this is fighting, so emotions can dictate how you defend, whatever.

Here's Dana White responding to Tom Aspinall saying, essentially he wouldn't fight one of his friends that just entered the UFC. The guy that's currently ranked number 10 is his friend, anti-Delijah. And he would vacate the title if Delijah got to a point where he was going to fight for the title. He's one of like my genuine friends, I would never. I'll vacate it and he can have his time. Fair. Really? I wouldn't fight him.

Fair. There's some stuff to me that's like more important than like, money on titles. You know what I think about that before you can ask me. I hate that. You know, many friends, relatives, name it, have all fought each other before.

You know, it doesn't determine whether you are friends with somebody or you hate somebody. You're competing against them to see who the best is. But that's his decision. You know, if he defends the title and doesn't, whatever he does to even think about vacating it because you don't want to compete against somebody is absolutely insane but he's a grown man that's up to him this is the type of stuff i'm telling you it's been building now and this was just this week this was just this fight week so i have to think it's been building for a while now but when you see all this evidence laid out i think and my

assumption here is pretty clear data white fucking hates tom aspin i think he hates tom aspin i think he hates dealing with him or his dad i think he hates the outcome of this fight and probably attributes it more to Tom than he does Surreal Gone, which I think is insane. And I think potentially this could be also a part of this John Jones discussion that's been going on for the last, it feels like year now about who is the best in the world or top pound for pound number one. Dana has always had issues with John Jones, but for whatever reason recently has stuck by him for pound for best ever, for best in the UFC right now. And even after the Tom Aspenall fight fell through, he is still somewhat taking that side of it.

things, which as the promoter, I feel like you could, you don't have to do that. Dana's always run it his way and he's gotten personal with people before, the Tito Ortiz of the world, which I think he was right about in some cases. He had his grievances and he was fair there as well, but, you know, Francis and Ganu. There's been so many, but I just feel like this is the, the worst thing that could possibly happen for Tom Aspinall right now is the pile on effect that's happening online, the eye poke of doom, his dad saying a lot of these things this week, I think that was a terrible move, him saying he doesn't want to defend versus his friends. The idea of him moving to boxing and leaving the heavyweight division, all of it is bad.

And now he essentially has to fight Cyril Gan and the UFC in this rematch in January. And hope to God, nothing bad happens because as of right now, all blame, all hatred from the top, from the decision makers at the UFC, with Tom still having two fights left, they don't like it. That's what I think. You guys let me know down below. I don't think this thing is going to get better before it gets worse. I hope so, but it doesn't look like this relationship is panning out. We've seen this story before.

It usually ends ugly. What do you think happens? Don't have those answers. But I guess we'll find out. Folks, we're back on the way concept presented by the Ring magazine. And oh my goodness, what just happened? I was at a family get-together. As you can see, I'm back home in Tennessee.

I was just hanging out with the fam. And all of a sudden, a massive trailer from Misfits just dropped and they're calling it the fight before Christmas. We predicted this just a couple of, I guess, weeks ago now. Massive announcements. Andrew Tate, apparently. storming the castle here Trojan horse into misfits. There's so much to get to, but the main thing I'm taking away is that there is some, at least what seems to be ruffling of the feathers

Mallard, between KSI and misfits. MAMS saying he's done with, we let me just get to the trailer and I'll tell you guys what I actually think, because what I'm not so sure about is that what we're seeing is the actual case of what's going on with misfits. I have my own theories of what's happening behind the scenes, but I'll get to that as soon as we break down. the fight before Christmas, Dubai, December 20th, 20th, 2025. Andrew Tate is for sure fighting, but it's a whole lot more than that. What do I mean, the breakdown, let's go. Ladies and gentlemen, some of you may know me,

Mam's Taylor, president of misfits boxing. I have to stop here. We're not even 11 seconds into the video, and the first thing Mam says is some you may know me, Mams Taylor. If anybody is watching this, this video that doesn't know who MAMS is. Maybe they're new fans to Misfits, but I don't know why that cracked me up and he's got the shades on. Oh my goodness. All right, real quick, we have, we have,

it looks like new sponsors, dual.com and is this say Mimo House or Memehouse, something called Memehouse, two new sponsors of Misfits. Right away, that's what I'm seeing. We're going to hit a new rock star style breakdown with this. Mams has got some sort of designer shades on and the designer shades have a design on them. That's got to be some double entendre. The Beard is gray with white, meaning he's either ready for his winter phase or there's been a lot of stress going on behind the scenes of misfits. Stay tuned for that. And then he's got his Gucci denim jacket on, which, you know, every farmer in Tennessee wears. I love Mams, dude. I come here today to give you some news. Some of you want. What is the chessboard looking like?

Chessboard? Let me look at it. Some of you will. Okay. But you'll understand because it's coming from a place of truth. Misfits boxing has been around for just over three years now. Three amazing years. We've achieved some incredible accomplishments. When KSI said, it is crazy. I know I'm pausing a lot. It is crazy to think that misfits has been around for three years. 2022, I remember it like it was yesterday. It was incredible. I mean, there was so much potential and hype for this company and this card was insane. And KSI with the two fights in one night, don't really know if that worked out so good for Swarms. And it kind of did for Swarms and Panetta.

I'll be honest. And then you had, go, Fuzi was on that car. Deadie was on that car. Chris Eubank Jr. was on the broadcast team that night. True Jordy, legend, by the way, a guy that doesn't get enough credit in this scene, a guy that should be a part of this scene still. Kempstar was there.

Freaking everybody. It was insane. That was one of my first massive opportunities as well. Wow, three years later, man. Insane. When KSI said, I want a box, I said, let's have your own IP. You don't need to work for anyone. Let's create our own IP.

I came up with the name Misfits Boxing. I coined the phrase crossover boxing. I put everything together. We had a tremendous run. KSI was fighting two, three times a year. And then KSI said, hey, I need a break from boxing. The break was over. It was time for him to fight.

He got sick. He hurt his hand. Fair enough. Then it happened a second time and almost sank the ship of Misfits. MAMS is kind of turning on KSI here. You hear him in the first part of this thing go, you know, I built the name or I created the name. I coined the term crossover boxing. I handle all of the details.

I did a lot of this. Mams like puffing his chest out saying, listen. KSI, you know, he just kind of showed up. I did all the work. behind the scene. This is my shit. That's kind of what I'm getting at here. Now, I can't even believe what I'm seeing. You have to take a lot of this, I think, with a grain of salt because you know what misfits and what MAMS likes to do very much entertainment factor. Very much we're going to get you to buy in because of a storyline here. Is that

what I'm seeing? Am I seeing a storyline created right in front of my eyes here? Because if there's one person I had known maims to never turn on ever, it was KSI and vice versa, right? There's been multiple opportunities for that to happen and both guys have stayed loyal. That's a massive trade of both of them guys. They stay loyal to people that are loyal to them.

But this is interesting. This is interesting. I'm getting worked here. I know I am, but I think it's hilarious. This is awesome. Boxing. And since then, it's been a tweet here, a story there. That's it.

He's the seat. CEO, where's MISTIT's gonna go from here? It's got to be a two-way street when you have a partnership. And this is a one-way street and this street is going down. I won't allow Mistsvix boxing to go down. Hey, he ain't lying. Hey, hold on. Again, this is probably a work, you know what I'm saying?

This is probably like a storyline. But we're talking about promoting this company. Now, is it KSI's full-on responsibility? He has other things to do, but you know what I? You know what I mean? There's a tweet here. There is a story there. You know? He ain't lying. KSI, you know, he has the sideman. He has a baller league, I think, is what he does now. He has Britain's got talent and obviously prime. And he's just doing a lot of stuff.

So, yeah, you know, his attention hasn't been on misfits as much as somebody like maims, who is pretty much full in with this thing. So even when I know this is probably a storyline, he's still taking some little slick shots. Like, hey, I'm going to tell the truth a little bit here. I'm going to get my shit off. KSI, if you're watching, just know that I meant it, all right? Just know that I meant it. Okay, maims. But I had a board meeting earlier this morning. And KSI, you are no longer the CEO of Misfits Boxing.

You have been relinquished of your duties as CEO. We need a new CEO. Okay, so maims had a meeting of the Misfits board, of which KSI was not invited to. and they have unanimously approved the removal of KSI as the CEO. Sudden fuck out of here. So I tend to look at this and split it down the middle. Yes, this is probably storyline.

This is definitely a WWE type of work. And on the reality side, gets KSI done with the company? Probably not. Is it going to take more of a backseat role? I think this promo is telling us yes, which I find even more interesting when you look at this in a realistic way. This probably does mean KSI is going to take steps away from the company as being maybe the face of it as someone that's going to be on the day-to-day involved with it,

and he's going to focus on other things while still having his connection probably more behind the scenes, though. No offense, but does he bring a ton to misfits if he's not fighting? Are you tuning in to watch KSI watch the cards? You know what I mean? Like, what is he, are you tuning into the press conference to see him sitting in the middle? I'm just saying it's not the worst idea if he's not going to be fighting, which I think as of a couple days ago, Leo, you can find the tweet.

I'm pretty sure KSI said he still hadn't scheduled hand server yet, which I could do a whole other video on, but I think it tells me KSI not only is not going to be fighting anytime soon, he may never fight again because if he's not gotten hand surgery now to get ready for, you know, a fight in the new year, these things, when you tend to put them off and you have other ventures and other project that you're passionate about, and more and more and more you lean into those, eventually you will find your way away from the sport because you have to be locked in, to be boxing, you just have to.

And if you're not going to commit to even getting the hand surgery, which again, I'm not saying he should if he's got these other things, he's doing. But if you're not going to commit to that, if that's not something that's priority number one or two on your list of things to do, it tells me not only is, are you not prioritizing that, but that ipso facto means you're not prioritizing fighting. And we knew that kind of beforehand, but now it kind of reinforces that. So I don't mind this. Take it for how you want in storyline or not.

It's probably a good thing that they're trying to jumpstart something in this company. I like it. But the question now becomes in storyline. Who's going to be the new CEO? I think I know, but. A CEO who's going to dedicate their life to this brand. A CEO who's going to fight for this brand in the ring, out the ring. Mams is like, I'm fighting.

It's me. He strips off the jacket and now he's got boxing gloves on. I've been hitting the punch machine. It's my time. And that CEO is here. Uh-oh. Please welcome on you, CEO. Oh my God.

Oh, no. dude say hello to your new CEO I wouldn't say it was a hostile takeover but it was certainly planned and man oh my god Andrew Tate is the in-story line new CEO of misfits all right before we even hear the spiel actually should we just let him do his thing let's let's hear Andrew Tate's spiel then I'll give you my thoughts because I think I know where this is going to go I think but let's let's watch And I are going to be working together to finally put misfits where it belongs on the world stage. The largest disruptive force in sports entertainment history. So considering that somebody who failed at their obligations to make this organization as big as it should have been has been ousted, and I'm the new CEO, I guess it's my job to make the most entertaining fights.

Who's the person who everybody wants to see fight? Who's the guy I can sign that everybody will tune in to watch fight? It's me. Isn't that convenient? Quite easy. I heard he's a great guy, easy to work with. It's me. All right, so a couple things I'm seeing.

I know I'm going to let it play at a second. But number one, Tate's playing a role here clearly as his way of being introduced to the misfits fan base. I will say this is going to be very controversial. And like, like ma'am said at the beginning of this, some people are not going to like this at all because of the allegations, because of the things that surround Andrew Tate as far as his reputation, as far as the, like I said, the allegations against him with all of the different ones across his entire life, it seems like. And the controversy that comes with that, right? There's a lot, a lot of controversy that comes with Andrew Tate, but he is also one of the most

popular people on the planet. Bar none, Andrew Tate, even now in 2025, is one of the most talked about people in this kind of crossover thing, space, whatever, whether it's politics, whether it's pop culture, whether it's even fighting. People do forget that the guy was a somewhat accomplished high-level kickboxer. Now, he's not only in the storyline, but going to become CEO, whatever that means, but what this really tells me is that Andrew Tate is going to have not only opportunities in the ring, he's going to probably have some influence on these misfits events. I mean, they are going to Dubai. I don't even think Andrew Tate can compete in Hey, it's us, the Jonas brothers. And guess what? We have some big news.

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I could be wrong, but that's already an influence. And also, you hear how he's taking little shots at KSI. I could be wrong about this. could be a way of like distancing KSI, like I said, from the company early on just because he's got so many obligations. But this also could be potentially if they're looking for a KSI fight not soon, but down the line, new CEO, old CEO, I mean, it's straight out of WWE. It's straight out of the actual Vince McMahon playbook. Vince gets ousted from the company and Eric Bischoff takes over and Eric Bischoff is there and he's the new CEO for a couple of months, for a year. And then

all of a sudden Vince music hits, here he comes back to take his company, right? Or he has someone like Stone Cold fight on behalf of him. I don't know. But if we're talking about like storyline stuff when he's taking those little subtle shots at KSI, that's what it makes me think. But this is wild. I mean, this having Andrew Tate be the main character of misfits, I don't think I ever saw coming. I saw him, you know, fighting on misfits. I mean, we called this a couple of weeks ago. It was pretty much a none deal. And I thought he would even do it beforehand. I thought he was going to fight Jake Paul in 2023. But having him be the main character, who, let me tell you something. It is going to get spicy.

online. Again, it's going to be good, it's going to be bad, but I guarantee you people will not be indifferent about Andrew Tate joining misfits. People are going to have something to say regardless. I haven't even been online yet, but I can almost guarantee there is a complete whirlwind of people talking about this, because it's almost unbelievable that he would fight again, but now, not only that, he has some sort of influence in the company, potentially, allegedly. I don't know, it could just be for show, but still, they're putting an event on in Dubai for him. He's taking the main stage here. going. So for that reason, I myself, I'm going to be fighting as CEO on the next Misfit show, December 20th here in Dubai. And if I'm going to fight, I mean it's been a while. If I'm going to

train and get in there, I may as well do it for a belt. And if it's going to be for a belt, it may as well be for the biggest one. So I, as CEO, order a mandatory title defense for the heavyweight Misfits belt between myself, Andrew, the top G, King Cobra Tate against Chase D'more. chance and you don't have a choice, Chase. You have to do it. That's kind of a nasty line. You don't have a chance or a choice, Chase, you got to do it. Again, it's Andrew Tate, and this is going to be controversial for sure. I just, I like the idea of bringing in a CEO that is going to fight and he's picking matchups for himself. Again, it does remind me of WWESK, he'll work. Like, I'm going to pick a fight. I'm going to put myself in the best opportunity, and I'm going to pick whoever I want to fight, and then

at that point, they got to fight me. Guess why? Because I'm the boss around here and you don't have a say in the matter. It's kind of, like I said, it's, it's, it's Tate, but it's also the idea behind it is a pretty ingenious one if you're just falling in love with the storyline. If you're just taking the storyline for what it is. Again, in reality, this is Misfits way, in my opinion, of making a big fight for Tate, of giving attention to this fight for Tate. And Tate is going to promo the shit out of it. He's already done a better promo right here, no joke. And I don't even mean this to be like, oh, Tate versus KSI. But this is one take into the camera. And this is better than anything KSI has ever done when it comes to promoing his fight potentially or any other.

I'm sorry. This is where Tate's strong suit is and not necessarily where KSI is. Mandatory. So I strongly recommend you train. You may be younger than I am. You may be more active. You may be bigger. But everybody has a plan until they're punched in the face. December 20th, Misfits, our largest show ever produced here in Dubai. And I will be head lining myself. Okay, so there it is. The Fight Before Christmas. Really nice poster, by the way.

Okay, Misfits. Misfits Mania, the Fight Before Christmas, headlined by Andrew Tate, Chase DeMore, December 20th in Dubai. All right, so we kind of knew that part. That part, you know, we had done a video on a couple weeks ago, knowing that that was coming down the line. I did not expect this part.

This, again, I think storyline version where Andrew Tate performs a hostile takeover of, misfits. That's a nice wrinkle. Again, Andrew Tate very controversial. A lot of people are going to, you know, walk on eggshells when it comes to this one because they just genuinely don't know what to think about Andrew Tate. Now, this is just part of the storyline going on here, right? Because right after this went down, I saw what I'm about to show you guys now on Twitter. You see Andrew Tate here, Misfits CEO, Combat Executive Officer. I like that. So KSI, as soon as this was tweeted, put out these one, two, three, four, five tweets. And when I tell you, I,

I got flashbacks and not in a good way. I was seeing demons when I saw this Twitter timeline light up with KSI tweets. It took me all the way back to my situation with KSI. I'm just lucky this time I wasn't the one on the other side of the gun. KSI was taking shots. First time, he said, LOL to this Misfits boxing thing. Then he said this year people are trying to test me for real. What the actual, what is going on?

This is the dumbest thing I've ever seen in my life. Let's make Andrew Tate the CEO of Misfits. Are you serious? he comes up with, you know, legit, can't be asked. Then, you know, F mams. Then he says this one, bro has been focused on misfits rather than managing me and you decide to do this shit. This is interesting because do I think KSI is playing into it? Yes. A little bit. I think that this entire F mams, this year people are testing me, what's going on, dumbest thing I've ever seen. I think those are a little bit of like, okay, like again, because I believe this is more of a way to

take something off KSI's plate. I think this is KSI going, you know what? What I'm bringing to misfits right now isn't necessarily as valuable as what I can do in other places, but I still want this thing to grow. I still want it to be a big thing. How do I do that? Well, I'm going to take a backseat. Mams, you go full on creative. You do something with this that doesn't have to involve me and I will, you know, I'll be over here. Whatever, when you need me, I'll be here. That's what I think's happening. But when I see this one right here, bro has been focused on misfits rather than managing me and you decide to do this. I kind of believe this is a little bit of a shot a little bit because maims took a little bit of a shot I think they talked about this behind

the scenes but I think this is a little bit of a shot because KSai has mentioned you know he hasn't been able to do music recently that was out of his control something like that and then you know obviously he can't fight right now and he's just doing videos he's clearly frustrated about something I don't know what it is I don't know if it's it's the position he's in if it's waiting whatever he needs to be doing but he's clearly hinted at and and you know we'll see if we can find the tweets he's clearly hinted that he's been frustrated this year that this year has not gone well for him that he can't seem to, you know, get it right this year, but next year's going to be his year. So there's something going on that I don't know if this is about,

if it's, you know, using that to build this big storyline. I have a feeling that everybody's kind of in on this and they're all playing nice behind the scenes, but maybe not really in front of the crowd because we're trying to build a storyline here. But that storyline, I think, again, I could be wrong, if KSI does. And I'm saying right now, if I'm putting percentage out there, I think 20% chance KSI ever fights again, 20 to 30, based on the fact that he's not, got the hand surgery based on the fact that he's not really pressing to get the hand surgery based on this kind of move which i think is more window dressing to kind of oust kSI from being the face of the company and then having someone step in there i don't think you'll box again unless he just

gets you know he gets the hand surgery and starts to feel better and and it works out but there's so many factors but if he was they're leaving the door open for this potential old kSI CEO taking back his company they're leaving the door open for that i think Now, let's take a look at some of these interview clips from Andrew Tate talking about the entire situation. So let's hear this. Why choose Mrs. Boxing? Well, KSI tweeted something that annoyed me about three years ago. So long story short, I took his company from him.

And considering that I'm the largest name on the planet, if I'm going to fight on an organization, why not fight in an organization I own a percentage of it? That makes a lot of business sense. I also intend on... Does he actually... Okay. I still think it's a work, but did they actually give him a percentage? of the company. Did they really do it? I would have been shocked had he not said that specifically, but I don't know. Andrew cut a promo like it was nothing so he could be a fantastic worker.

There's no way they gave him an actual percentage of the company though, right? Maybe. I don't know anymore. I genuinely have no idea. The only thing I can remember from KSI and Andrew Tate three years ago, obviously the sexual assault allegations that Andrew Tate, I think is maybe still going through. I don't even actually know where those cases are or what the details are there, but I want to say that Tate got banned or maybe he got arrested at that point and he was in prison or he was going to prison and KSI had tweeted something like karma or like, I don't remember. It was something around that, I'm pretty sure. Or like, you know, Tate getting ratioed by Greta Thumburg. I'm not exactly sure. But it was something super personal at Tate at the time

and maybe that's why he's held his grudge. Again, it could be storyline. It probably is, but I'm trying to just think back of what he would even be talking about. I think there's a lot of fantastic names on misfits. There's a lot of people who are already doing fantastically well and they can do even better. I think we can become even bigger as an org. My intention is to make the org a lot bigger than it is and make sure everybody gets paid and even more money. So why not? I mean, I'm approaching this as a businessman. I'm approaching this as a fighter. I see the potential in the future of this. I think that, you know, celebrities fighting or influencers fighting just seems to keep growing. So misfits have already got a fantastic platform. They're already in a great place.

and I think with my help, we can take it to the next level. I'm very interested. Again, he's talking like he legitimately wants to help out behind the scenes as well. I'm so interested. I have to know. Like, I have to know if this is real. I don't know if I got to interview maims. If I got to interview Andrew fucking Tate, I don't know.

But I have to know how legit is this? Is he actually a part of misfits? Guys, I might have to go and interview KSI. I know this is like, it's going to seem like me trying to like, whatever. But I think I need to know what is this? Is this real? I want to sit down with all three of them. figure this out, maybe not at the same time, but all three in separate interviews, you guys

let me know if you'd want to see that. Is this how, is this how KSI and I finally daff it up? Because I genuinely don't know what's happening. Andrew is talking like he is legitimately the CEO. My head wants to me to go, no wage, you're getting worked. Don't fall for this. But then again, he's talking about like the stuff he actually wants to do behind the scenes here. It's so odd. Let's talk about this then. You fight December 20th, but surely it's not just a one-time thing, right? Surely you've got a plan in your back your mind that you want to have three, four, five fights. What's on your mindset here? How many? Well, there's a lot of people who need punching in the face. And this is the rule we currently live in. You know and I know. There's a long,

long list of people. And no matter how well I perform on the night, there's going to be people with an opinion who said, ah, you know, Chase isn't experienced enough, or Andrew didn't look that good, or he looked sloppy, or whatever. There's always going to be somebody with something to say. There's a lot of people who have been saying my name already. And I'm sure they're going to pop up trying to catch a payday because I'm the biggest payday in sports entertainment today. There's no doubt about that. Darren Till's tried to already catch a payday off my name. But, you know, it's a beautiful world.

And there's plenty of targets. There's plenty of people who genuinely deserve to feel damaged. And who are these targets? You keep mentioning. It's names and names. I'm capable of dishing out damage. God has blessed me with the capability to hurt other people, and a lot of people deserve to be hurt.

So we're going to see what happens after the 20th. We're going to see what date and what person deserves to feel the wrath of Andrew Tate. And if I have to hurt somebody, I'll hurt somebody because I'm a professional. That's what I'm paid to do. Okay. So the only name mentioned there is Daryantil, but I have a feeling. I just, I predict these things. I think that depending on what happens with not only Tate on December 20th, we have Jake Paul, Jervante Tank Davis in three weeks now, maybe less. Something just tells me that in 2026, there's going to be opportunities for Jake to move around and do what he wants. Obviously, Tate and Jake were years ago.

supposed to face off and have a little brouhaha, right? You guys remember in Dubai? I was there when they faced off. It was for Dejie and Floyd's card. It was wild. There's something more to this than just Chase DeMore. You have to know that. There's something Chase DeMore than this behind the scenes planned for Tate.

And again, you have to get through the first one. And Chase has fair play to him gotten better over time. But there does seem to be a little bit more behind. Here's Andrew Tate and his brother Tristan Tate on potentially tag team boxing. Let's look at this. Would you guys ever consider doing a tag team? Is that something you have? ever be tempted to two brothers it'd be very historic it'd be historic yeah we're open to the idea why

not are you open to that tristan it would be very interesting to do i don't think tag team works in real sports though sure in wwee it works but i don't think in a real fight sport there would be any system where a tag team would be feats mrs boxing does tag team boxing does it really and you have your yeah oh well you're the ceo andrew you tell me would you want to make that happen run i'm the ceo maybe yeah let's do it let's let's find the right opponents after December 20th. That's my number one focus. When that's done, I'm open to anything. The Paul brothers, Logan Paul, Jake Paul versus Andrew Tate and Tristan Tate versus Andrew Tate versus Andrew Tate and Tristan Tate.

You know, Logan's actually, uh, sorry, Jake's actually a friend of mine. I've got to know him very, very well. I'm not afraid of the Paul brothers at all. And, you know, if it came down to Andrew Tate and Tristan Tate versus Jake Paul and Logan Paul, the Tate's win every single time in every single way. I don't know. I don't know about that, but I tell you, I would watch it, I would absolutely watch it. That'd be some pretty entertaining stuff. But okay, let's talk about it this way. What do I think about this entire thing? Number one, I do think this is storyline. I think this is maims trying to inject life into misfits boxing. I think it's a very risky play based on how the audience reacts to Andrew Tate, who we know is very

controversial, who we know has a lot of allegations. We know is someone that everyone is going to have a reaction to good or bad. And that is what you're hoping for. This is going to cause a wavelength, a reaction, a sonic boom through the internet. And I think it will, right? Especially if Andrew Tate wins. He still has to win, right? He's going to do the promo. He's talking like he's actually part of this. Like he actually has a stake in misfits. I want to get to the bottom of that. That's what I want to know more about. Not the whole CEO like, yes, that's a fun storyline. And I'm all in with the story. I'm ready to see where they take it. I'm going to watch that as a fan. But I want to know for real. Like, what is the play here? I want to interview KSI. I want to interview Mams and Tate and see like what is really going on here.

But on that note, you still need to go out and win. For this whole experiment to work and not blow up in your face, Tate has to win. Versus Chase DeMore who, I, listen, I know Chase hasn't been fighting long and he's not necessarily the most technical, but he's a big dude, he's strong, powerful. He touched you with the right hand. It's going to hurt you, right?

So you still have to win the fight. But, oh, man, this is going to be controversial. This is going to be interesting to see the reaction. And I'm going to start right here with you guys. What do you think of this? Because I'm still trying to wrap my head around it, not Tate fighting. But this storyline of Tate coming into the company, KSI going off on Twitter, I think, again, that's more storyline.

But there might be some real feelings behind it, just like Mams with the dripped-out cowboy gear, was throwing shots KSI's way again. Does this mean they're going to try to have KSI sit out, come back for a big-time fight in the future? Are they going to set Andrew up for a big-time fight? Potentially, if he's going to get past Chase to Moore against people from outside of the company? I wonder what does this mean for Misfits relationship with DeZone? Because I know DeZone has a lot of influence as to who. who they let on their platform, and Andrew Tate, again, massively controversial, has been banned off a lot of platforms. Will he be allowed to be on this? Is this misfits going in a different direction? I don't know.

I'm just wondering how long is left on that deal now? I think it was a five-year deal, or we're still two years left in it, so I don't know. But that's another thing to consider, like, where is this going to air? I didn't see a DeBZone logo anywhere in this trailer, which I'm not saying that that means anything, but does it? I don't know. You guys let me know, though, as well, down below. What do you think of this? Andrew Tate is coming. to misfits. He's taken over by Storm. The new CEO, KSI's pissed. He's gone, apparently, allegedly, and it's probably more storyline than it is real. But what's really going on? That's what I want to know. What is really going on? Behind the scenes, I need to get to the bottom of this thing. I think I think I think I'm going to try to do it. You guys let me know what you think. What happens

on December 20th? Who else is on the car? Don't have those answers yet, but I know it is going to be interesting. As far as how you guys react and what the next steps are, I guess we'll find out. Welcome back to the Way Concept presented by The Ring Magazine, and today we have breaking news. Jake Paul, Jervante Tang Davis, the fight is in jeopardy, and it's for a reason that I think you all could believe, but maybe can't believe, is happening again. This fight is only two and a half weeks from going on. November 14th is the date. We are supposed to think that Jake Paul and Jervante Davis are going to be fighting on Netflix, but ah, not so fast, my friend. there's another, yes, I said, another domestic abuse allegation against Gervante Davis, and that may either destroy, postpone, change the entire event.

This is happening in real time, so we have to talk about it. What is going on with the Jake Paul Dravante Davis fight? The breakdown, let's go. Number one, first off, I just want to say I was starting to get more into this fight as we got closer to it. I've seen videos of Jake Paul training with the likes of Ray Ford, Montana Love. Chakor Stevenson and others in his camp. I saw a picture, no video. I would love to see the video of Jake Paul sparring Chikor Stevenson. I want to know what's going on down there in Puerto Rico. I've told you guys this many times Jake takes these fights very, very seriously. And I just thought, okay, this is going to get a little more interesting than I previously thought. I thought it would

be a bit of a mismatch, a bit of a boxing experience to Gervante Davis. Jake bringing the size and power and we're going to get one of these stalemates where no one wants to take a real risk and both guys are going to get paid. Turns out no guy may get paid, or Giovante Davis might be kicked off the card because we have a new, not champion, a new domestic violence abuse allegation against Jervante Davis. There's been a lot of allegations against Tank and some of those have been dropped, others have not really been pursued, and you don't really know what's what behind the scenes with people, but when things like this happen over and over, I think this is his fourth or maybe fifth allegation of domestic abuse,

You kind of start to have to look at the person that's being accused of such and go, why do you keep ending up in these situations? And the way it's described, we've even seen Tank do some of the things already on camera. But let's get into this thing. And then we'll just go right into the report from Chris Mannix here. Shout out Manix. Obviously, you guys know him as a commentator with the zone, covers boxing, covers basketball as well for SI. Chris Manix on Twitter says Netflix and reps for Jake Paul have been exploring potential

replacement for Trevante Davis, sources familiar with the situation, told SI Now, Paul Davis, scheduled for November 14th, is in limbo after new allegations of domestic violence against Jervante Davis. I was in the car. I didn't know if this was real, but I had seen a report. And this came out, I think on October, it came out a couple days ago, but it was from October 27. And there was a civil suit over domestic allegations. Just two weeks ahead of this fight. This is from Andreas Hale, our guy over at ESPN.com. He essentially wrote the article on it and went into details. So let's take a read. Jervante Tank Davis has once again found himself in legal trouble just two weeks before his exhibition fight. And yes, it was going to be an exhibition.

I know it was billed as a exhibition with, you know, a winner and loser, but let's be honest about it. Two guys massively different ways, massively different experience. It was going to be an exhibition. On November 14th, a new civil lawsuit filed in Miami-Dade County has put the WB. a lightweight champion in hot water over another alleged domestic incident. I'm not going to cast dispersions about the differences between the civil and criminal here. I'm not sure why if there was an actual domestic abuse case, why there aren't being criminal charges filed. Maybe this is a better way of going about it, but I don't really know the ends and outs of

why you do one versus the other. I mean, a criminal charge would obviously be more severe and would be, you know, getting the actual criminal punishment that tank deserves for if the domestic abuse allegations are true. I know there's been allegations and criminal allegations in the past that haven't necessarily worked out or whatever the case is, but this one is a civil lawsuit. So not a criminal charge we're talking about here, but a civil lawsuit. And according to the lawsuit acquired by ESPN, Davis is accused by ex-girlfriend Courtney Rosal of battery, aggravated battery, false imprisonment, kidnapping, and intentional infliction of emotional distress. Now, kidnapping, aggravated battery,

false imprisonment. I'm pretty sure those get into felony charges should they have been criminal, but we're talking about a civil lawsuit here, which again, I'm a little confused on why that part is happening. But as we read here, this lawsuit comes two months after Davis's previous domestic violence case was dropped by an ex-girlfriend

and mother of two of the boxers' three children. So this is two months after another allegation was dropped. So there wasn't any charge or anything there, but Tank seems to find himself in these situations or, you know, be the perpetrator potentially in some of these situations. over and over and over.

As much as I love Tank as a boxer, as much as I think he's one of the most talented boxers, one of the most skilled guys in the sport itself, he is a massive, massive screw-up. I mean, unbelievably, a massive screw-up for the guy with his amount of talent, with his amount of popularity and eyeballs that drift to him in this sport,

a true potential star in this sport, to have these types of issues over and over when you talk about change in your life and not being a violent person anymore and not wanting to box, raise your kids and do this. And again, I'm not even trying to do the personal stuff, but how do you keep finding yourselves in these situations? After an allegation earlier this year, and now another one. You know, if it was one or two, I could start to go, okay, well,

some people are plotting on him, whatever, you know, that can happen. But this is just too much of a coincidence when things are happening over and over and over again. He is just a complete screw-up. Get $50 million on the line and potentially we're not even going to see the fight now. I don't know what's going to happen. No official reports on what's going to go down with this fight is tank still on the card or not. We don't know. But this is just unbelievable, man. I never can understand when athletes do this stuff. We continue. ESPN also confirmed with one of the woman's attorneys that a report was filed on Tuesday with the Miami Gardens Police Department. Messages left with the department

were not immediately returned to ESPN. So they have filed a report, which would be, you know, escalated to potentially if evidence was found by Miami Gardens Police Department. That would probably be elevated to potential investigation of the said aggravated battery, false imprisonment, kidnapping. So they've not only filed this civil suit, but they also are pursuing criminal investigation at least, and that's up to the police department. So I guess we'll see there. According to the complaint, now here is where it gets brutal. Here's where I look at this entire thing, because I've read this lawsuit, or at least part of it, to know that it gets really, really ugly here. And this is where I say that this isn't just a happenstance thing, at least in my opinion,

because we've seen some of the similar qualities that are being alleged in this lawsuit that tank has shown on camera before, I think at a celebrity basketball game years ago. But let's read this. According to the complaint, Davis allegedly stormed into Tussies, Miami Gentleman's Club, where Rosal worked as a VIP cocktail server in the early hours of Monday and attacked her in a back room of a club that did not have cameras. She says Davis dragged her through a stairwell, kitchen, and the back exit before physically assaulting her in a parking garage.

Now, I don't even know if I can show this video on YouTube, but there is a video. I don't remember the year, but that a girl, whoever I think Gervante was seeing at the time, was at a celebrity basketball game. He walks directly up to where she is sitting and snatches her up and drags her out of this basketball gym in a similar way that's being described here. And usually when you have someone that, in this case is alleged, or has committed a crime that continues to be put in that same position, they usually act the same way if they have not learned from said mistake or about.

gotten help for said issues or just that same person. Now again, I'm not trying to allege this or that. I don't know the situation. But that sounds a lot like what we've seen Gervante do, at least the dragging of someone out of a venue, a female out of a venue, aggressively with physical intent to harm. We've seen that before. This is why I can't look at this situation and go, yeah, she's probably lying. Yeah, you know, this is probably not what she's saying it is. We've seen on camera something really similar and this is not the first or second time he has been accused of domestic violence. We've seen it.

One, two, three, four, this would be the fifth time. That we've seen this, or Gerrata Davis. Does that sound like a coincidence to anybody? Rosal said she was in a five-month relationship with Davis prior to the incident and cited multiple instances of domestic abuse, violence, and threats made by the fighter concerning her safety and well-being. Rosal said in the lawsuit that there were, quote, at least four previous incidents in which Davis, quote,

physically assaulted and choked her. On two occasions, she said Davis threatened to, who kill her. I mean, this is just awful. Again, allegations, I can't prove any of this to be true. But if it is, this is awful behavior. This is complete and utter disregard for the position he's in, for another human's life, for the position of just any relationship, any family, nothing. No thought about it. Just a bad, awful person. And someone that if this is true and all these things are true, should be locked up. You can't have people committing domestic violence over and over and over and over and act like things are going to change because they're a star athlete.

Can't happen. But like what lesson does that teach it? For people that are going to say, well, how do you potentially postpone or want to change an event over a civil lawsuit? This is why when you open the civil lawsuit, when you look at companies like a Netflix or an MVP or partners or brands or sponsors that want to be involved with this type of event, do you think they're going to be okay with a guy that repeatedly, not in the past, because Mike Tyson had allegations and ended up being charged for very, very, very good.

severe. I mean, we'll just say it, was rape back in his day, and he went to prison for. This recent, when you're doing something like that or alleged to be doing something like that, and you have a history of those allegations, and we have a history of seeing the physical, just call it what it is, battery that you can put on females outside of the ring. I don't think that's something that Netflix is wanting to be a part of at that point. And I think that even Jake, who was, and not even really clowning, but being like, you're a domestic abuser. Onstage, Chudervante Davis, like talking about putting his hands on women, I don't know if Jake wants to be involved with somebody like that. Yes, Tank is

is a massive star in boxing for sure. And again, I can't sit here and act like this is fact, because I don't know. And I can't sit here and go, oh, well, you know, lock him away and throw away the key. I can't do that either because I don't know. But if this turns out to be true, then will it have been a great look for Netflix to have it? Would it have been a great look for for Jake to have? Do they believe he would even make it to the fight? Are criminal charges coming? Like, that's another thing we're not talking about. Are criminal charges about to be levied, which is why they're starting to look for potential replacements? We have documented apparently evidence or at least testimony from Rosal here. The first of the incidents talking about the two

occasions where she alleged Davis said he was going to kill her, I guess. Here's one of the first incidents that took place on September 2nd when Davis allegedly threatened to kill Rosal for not responding to his calls and text messages. The second incident took place on September 23rd this year when she says Davis accused her of infidelity and texted I'll kill you. Later that day, Davis allegedly physically assaulted Rosal choking her in public at Plyam, Miami, a restaurant and the Lincoln Road Shopping District. If someone is willing to physically abuse another person in public, again, alleged, I don't know, I don't know if cameras caught this, I don't know. But we've seen him do it before in public, around people. What in God's name is going on

when people can't see when there is no threat of someone stopping you, calling the police, eyewitness anything else? If Dervante is that comfortable, allegedly, potentially, assaulting this female and others in public, what's happening when they're behind closed doors? And to me, again, When I read some of these statements, it makes it more plausible that the things that are being said about him that happen in public and maybe not public are actually happening. Because he's so brazen about it. We continue. The suit says that Davis sent Rosal a text message after this week's incident stating, quote, I'm on my way to your house, which Rosal interpreted as the boxer heading to her home to continue assaulting her.

The lawsuit says that Rosal is currently suffering from PTSD, anxiety, and extreme fear, while saying that she is living with others because she no longer feels safe alone and is actively seeking, therapeutic treatment to address the severe emotional and physical harm caused by Davis. The attorneys are demanding compensatory and punitive damages along with a request for jury trial. Davis has had numerous run-ins with the law over the years, including charges related to domestic violence fleeing the scene of a car accident. Several of his cases have been dropped, but he was sentenced to a 90-day house arrest and three years probation for a 20-23 hit-and-run case in Baltimore. ESPN reached out to representatives for Davis. I've yet to respond. ESPN also reached

out to representative for Jake Paul's most valuable promotions to see if this lawsuit would affect the status of Paul Davis at the Casaya Center in Miami on November 14th. Most valuable promotions did not respond to the request for comments. So that is where we leave that part of the story. Now, if you're asking questions on why would they cancel this event purely based off an allegation. I kind of already talked about it. If you're Netflix, if you're some of the sponsors involved with this event, if you're MVP and Nikisa and Jake, if this thing, if you have more information about it than we the public do now. And I don't know if that's the case or if they know that charges potentially are coming. You have two weeks to make a decision. We just learned in the

last fight that Jake had against Julio Cesar Chavez Jr., they arrested Chavez the day after Jake fought him, meaning had the LAPD or whoever, ICE, I think is actually who had gotten to him, had ICE agents found Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. a day earlier, the fight would have been canceled. They deported him. They said they didn't know about it. I don't know if that's the case. but if they took Julio Cedor Chavez away, a day before the event, would the event even happen? And MVP has had a, I don't want to say, had a history, but they had a misfortune, I will say. Jake has had a lot of misfortunes around his events. Tommy Fury pulling out two weeks ahead of time.

Tommy Fury canceling an entire event set in New York, short notice Tyrum Woodley, short notice other fights as well, short notice Mike Perry after the Mike Tyson situation happened. So they've had to kind of change gears on the run multiple times before, and this is maybe another instance of that. And it's one of those questions that I think would probably be better answered. Like, do you want to keep the event on the date November 14th? Do you want to move it back? You want to wait and see what happens with the Zika process? Or do you want to seek out other opponents, which looks like, again, according to Chris Mannix,

that's what they want to do. They're going to seek out other opponents. Now, what that tells me is, if they're looking already, then they're moving past the Dervante Davis fight. That's what it tells me. And I don't know that that's the case. I don't have any sources, but there wouldn't be a need to look for other potential opponents if you were confident that Durvante was either going to make the walk or that you are

confident in the decision to keep him in the main event, to keep him for this event and for the powers that be Netflix, MVP, sponsors, whoever, that they would be confident still running this event if he was on the car. The fact that they're already looking tells me the red button has been hit or you know the hand is hovering over it, right? Now you get into the question of who is going to be a replacement opponent for Jake right now. And the answers would be in my mind on short notice. If it were me, and this would be a bitter pill to swallow, and I don't know that Netflix would want to do this, and I don't know really how that works, I would postpone the event. I'd move it to January. I'd find someone else, January, February, whatever. I'd find someone else

in a quick turnaround time to give them eight weeks to train, 12 weeks to train, whatever. A Tommy Fury, by the way, would be my option. If it were me, again, there's probably so much more going on behind the scenes that I don't know. But if it were me, Tommy Fury would be the guy I'm calling, and I'm giving him eight to 12 weeks to get ready, and we're running it, right? And it's a massive expense and everyone's going to lose money and it's going to be a problem, but I don't know who you get in two weeks. Anthony Joshua is not fighting on Netflix. He is exclusive to the zone. Francis Inganu, I really don't know. Someone mentioned Francis Inganu. I don't know how that would work. Carl Frotch could be an option. Carl Frotch would be, you know, a decent enough name for them to get for

Netflix. Have a bit of the UK behind it. Again, you're talking about eight weeks now, a little more than that. So how quickly could you turn that around? I would have said Andrew Tate, but Andrew Tate looks like he's locked up for December, so you can't really do that, and you wouldn't be able to do it in the U.S. That's a no-go. You know, you could try to throw as much money as possible at a guy like KSI and do that. I mean, people would go crazy for that. I don't think KSI can fight right now, though, because of the hand and he needs surgery. I mean, I'm running through the list here, guys, you know what I mean? Like, who else is there? I can't come up with the name worthy of Netflix available right now. Jorge Mazav at all, maybe a Nate Diaz rematch. Yeah, I can't think of anyone.

Who else is there right now? You built this whole thing around Durante, and then the plan was to go into 2026 and think about KSI or an anti-Joshua or wherever else you go from there. But now this throws a massive wrench. And by the way, this is twice now that Jervante Davis has kind of been the reason for them not being able to schedule this event because Jervante goes out and has the stinker against Lamont Roach. Roach fought really well. I thought won the fight. They can't do that. They have to wait a little longer. Jake goes and fights Ulios Zezer Chavez. And now they're trying to do this, Man, I almost feel bad for Jake. I do because this isn't his fault. He's done everything he should do for this, as he kind of always does. And the other side, once again, is a complete screw-up. And by the way, I want to say this, people were talking about ticket sales. And while ticket sales, at least from my perspective, I don't have the numbers behind the scenes, they don't look good. They do not look good. And that was another part of this. They moved the fight from Georgia. Georgia didn't want any part of it. They're in Miami. Ticket sales didn't look great so far. Again, maybe you have a massive walk-up fight week. but I'd heard there was a lot left.

And, you know, if you go on some of these resellers, it looks like there's a lot of seats left. But do I think that would be the reason that somehow this article would come out now and these talks would come out now? I don't think so. It seems like, again, not even seems like. The allegation is from the night of October 27.

This just happens to be awful timing. I think it's a massive coincidence. I really do. And I don't think ticket sales are like a driving factor in this. They were bad, or at least from what I was seeing, they were bad. But I don't think they didn't have anything to do with this. They were probably hoping for and planning for a massive close, was during these last two weeks and then the walkup on fight night to be better and it probably

would have been it probably would have been better. I mean they're two massive stars so those ticket sales probably would have picked up and I think would have done relatively well or pretty well into fight week but the build for this has been very slow it's been very start stop people don't know when the fight's been what place the fight's going to be in they're doing different venues and all that and then you have this which again I think is a coincidence and it's all again the allegations coming out when they happen is one thing, but doing it, again, allegedly, if you're Gervante Davis on the October 27, doing it again, being put in this position and failing again. He is an unbelievably bad screw-up as an individual, if all this is true.

And the more that things line up with the things that are being said about him and previous video altercations that we have and how dark and sadistic I'm going to kill you. Aggravated battery. kidnapping, false imprisonment, keeping people held hostage. This is a bad dude, and I don't mean in the sense of like he's the best fighter, whatever. I mean, he's a bad person if this is what's going down. And again, it's not just one allegation, it's not just two allegations, this is five allegations. Most of which sure have been dropped.

But how many more are going to keep happening with the same pattern of behavior over and over before someone says enough is enough? And maybe that's what's happening. If that's what happens, by the way, that's a hard decision to make because you're basically throwing away. your event. But kudos to them. Honestly, kudos to Jake, Nikisa, Netflix, whoever, if they find out that this stuff is true, if they have more information than we do, and I'm not saying it is, we find out it's all allegations and false. I've seen fighters fight while fighting allegations, fighting charges. I've seen that happen before. Athletes and other sports as well. But if they find

out this is true, or they have more information and they decide we can't allow this to be on our platform, kudos to them, because that's the right move. Again, it's that, that gray area between what's the allegation and what's the truth behind it. But that's where we're at right now. It's a civil suit as of right now. Apparently, the plaintiff or the victim is going to pursue criminal charges as well. But as of right now, according to Chris Mannix over at SI, because of the domestic abuse allegations from October 27th, just a couple of days ago,

Jervante Davis is now being sued by his ex-girlfriend for battery, aggravated battery, false imprisonment, kidnapping, and intentional infliction emotional damage. And according to Chris Mannix, the event runners for Netflix, Paul versus Davis are looking for potential replacements for this fight. They don't have answers yet. We don't even have any names yet.

We have no idea what's happening yet. All we know is that this event is in serious jeopardy. I'm taking this super serious because when someone like Manix writes it, he's not blowing smoke up your ass. He is telling you the truth. So you better listen. I don't know what's going to happen with this, but I know what you guys are going to say.

Y'all probably want this thing canceled. I just feel like, I feel like that sucks for Jake. As much as maybe people didn't want to see the fight, he did everything he was supposed to do. What do they do next? Can they find a replacement? Who would it be? I don't have those answers and I have no idea what happens. But I guess we'll find out.

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