The Herd with Colin Cowherd - THE W.A.D.E. Concept - WEEK IN REVIEW - TOM ASPINALL FIGHT WEEK MADNESS, GERVONTA DAVIS PREPERATIONS FOR JAKE PAUL AND FABIO WARDLEY PULLS OFF THE UPSET?!?

Episode Date: October 27, 2025

In this weeks WEEK IN REVIEW, Wade breaksdown Gervonta Davis's training footage ahead of the big Jake Paul fight, reacts to the controversial Tom Aspinall fight week & eye poke and explains why Fabio Wardleys stoppage against Joseph Parker was early... 0:00 GERVONTA DAVIS TRAINING FOOTAGE 21:14 UFC 321 PREDICTION 44:44 WARDLEY VS PARKER BREAKDOWN 58:32 TOM ASPINALL EYE POKE #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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that I'm even thinking this, and potentially the way that Tank Davis could knock Jake Paul out. This is changing my mind on a lot of the things around this fight and how it potentially will go. I'm seeing Tank Davis in the gym and I'm seeing Tank Davis in the gym. bits and pieces of what they want to do. And I'm not necessarily convinced that this is going to go completely differently than I already thought, but I am

starting to flip on what I think can happen here. Tank Davis is taking Jake Paul more seriously than potentially I thought he would. And usually that's the downfall of everyone that fights Jake, but there's a reason why. And it's not just because the money he's guaranteed, but it seems like there's a little bit extra

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really put it out there, but I'm not exactly sure what they're going over. Jake looks to his team, he's like, you know, maybe I got to get my head off center line more. Maybe that's what he's looking to his team and saying, you know, hey, I need to slip more punches. And then Ray puts like the, the high guard up like, hey, when you're here, yeah, yeah, when you're here, don't even do that and go to the body. I can't really read his lips here. And then, you know, that's where your body's open. I'm not sure exactly what they're talking about, but it seems to, it seems, like Ray has given him some pointers on like something he did wrong or something that Jake was not super happy with the way he performed in their spar. But this is literally the only thing I have

seen out of Jake Paul's camp in regards to this fight specifically. There's been a lid on basically everything they're doing right now in Jake's camp. I'm sure there'll be more videos and more training come out as we get closer and closer to the fight. But it seems like maybe in this session, Ray probably put it on Jake a little bit. Not that again, it matters because They're not fighting each other and sparring is sparring. That's how you get better. But Jake's, you know, obviously sparring smaller guys. Seeing not only what weapons they bring to a sparring session

because, you know, they're not as big in stature. There's going to be a 60 pound weight difference probably. Actually, a little bit of update on that today as well. Tank's looking a little bigger than I've normally seen him. We'll talk about that in a second. But obviously, Jake is going to work with some of the better guys in the smaller weight classes to get prepared for what tank could potentially bring. Now, Tank is a one-of-one in that respect.

So it's difficult sometimes to prepare you. yourself in that same way. But on that same note, we have a couple new things out from Tank Davis. Number one, it's not necessarily new, but the last kind of work we've seen from Tank, you know, just in general, is this video right here. Just chop in the bag, turn it over shots. Chop into the body, every shot to the midsection. Now again, not to read too much into things, but we go back to this video, and I don't know what's being said here between Ray and Jake, but he's telling him, you know, something with the high guard. Don't even do that.

I'm trying to draw a parallel between potentially what Ray Ford did to Jake in this bar and what could potentially be going down in tanks camp that can line up the dots. Again, we don't have a lot to go off of. What we generally think may happen in this fight is that Jake Paul will probably use his size, his frame and his power to try to land big shots, not throw a ton of punches and not gas himself out against Tank, who again, this is an exhibition. Yes, there'll be judges and someone, I guess, will win is what they're saying, but does that mean that someone actually has a win loss on their record? No, because you can't sanction something like this in a pro fight. Tank, on the other hand,

who already is a low output puncher is going to look to utilize his speed, his head movement, his quickness, his agility, his angles, his footwork, his defense to offense transition, and vice versa to catch Jake when he does eventually open up with bigger punches and make him pay. Also, he's going to look to slow Jake down and potentially work him into those later rounds to where tank can still be explosive. And when I look at this little exchange from Jake and Ray Ford, again, I could be completely missing the read here. Ray is either telling him this is what you need to do or this is what I was able to do to you

because of, if we go back here, because of this high guard, I was able to get to your body. Something like that maybe. or it could be, again, I could be just completely missing it. And then you see this from Tank, all body work, just hammers to the body. Level changes, head off center, angle switch, all that work in the bag. That was one of the more recent videos we saw.

One thing that we didn't really look at when watching this video the first time is how much bigger Tank looks. Now again, he is a small, slight of frame, statured individual to begin with. Tank is a very small guy. If you blinked, you might think this young man right here is Tank David. No, I'm playing. But Tank is, you know, he's smaller. And this is why this fight is an exhibition and why it's a bit of a shot in the dark as to, you know, why you even do something like this.

But we all know it's a lot of money being involved in XYZ, both guys. They're big time prize fighters, the big time prize on this. And again, we can talk about the legitimacy of it. We can talk about how it helps the sport, how it hurts the sport, to the cows come home. The bottom line is these two guys pull better numbers than NACTS. anybody in the sport right now in the U.S. And regardless of the circus nature of it, people are going to watch. I'm going to watch.

You guys are going to watch. And that's just the state of boxing where we're at. I think it's entertaining as long as we all know what it is, which is a money fight. I don't, I wish that Tank would relinquish his belt. I wish the WBA would strip him because I don't think this is very fair to people that are supposed to be the actual contenders in his weight class for his belt. And that is what the actual sanctity of the sport argument should be about is If Tank is the sitting champion, either he gives his belt up or he shouldn't be doing this in fighting challengers.

That's really it. But as long as we're all on the same page, that Tank can no longer say he's one of the pound for pounds whilst doing these things and whilst holding a belt when others are contending or someone to contend for it, then that's fine. I still think Tank's one of the most talented boxers in the world, but you can't hold that title if you're not actually defending your title. Anyway. But when we look at Tank in this, in this...

Like, look at the shoulder definition. Not that Tank is like ever really been... you know, crazy out of shape. But I thought maybe coming into this, Tank would be a little bit skinnier, a little bit smaller, and that's just not the case. I mean, look at, I know this is on impact, the shoulder definition, but he looks thicker.

Pause. He does, though. He looks like he's put weight on. And I saw Showbiz did a video about this a couple of days ago, and he looked at Tank's, you know, figure for the photo shoots, which we'll take a look at now as well. So here is Tank,

and Jake looking at each other's posters. You look at the actual poster. Now again, they obviously may take a lot bigger than he is here in the poster, but you're not seeing him one as cut up as you would normally see him, obviously, to fight at his weight class. 135 is still a little bit, a little bit of a cut for tank. But you see even here, he is a little bit more broad, a little bit more filled out in the back, shoulders, arms. The entire point I'm making here is that Tank is loading up, making himself bigger, not too much, but making himself more around his walk-around weight, maybe 150, maybe 160 pounds for this fight because he needs that power to knock Jake out. He still has speed,

still has ability, still has quickness, agility, all of that. But this type of power he will need to try to even knock a 200, probably on the night, 210, 215 pound man out. But it won't just be the size difference. It won't just be him sitting down on his punches. It won't just be the shots to the body from Tank. All that stuff, I'm painting a picture for you guys as to how Tank can potentially do this, because I think Tank is the more skilled guy, but I just think Jake is so much bigger, and he is more skilled than people give him credit for. And he does possess a bit of boxing IQ for his level that can keep him safe in this kind of scenario because Tank is 135 pounder. It's not like he's a big guy. And Jake is a big guy and he can still, like I said, keep things somewhat safe for himself

if need be. And if he does want to go for it and there is moments where Jake wants to use his weight and use his size, which is probably what they want to do the entirety of the fight, there are ways that Jervante can counter it. Now, bear with me as I do a little bit of a walk down memory lane, do we all remember the Floyd Mayweather Logan Paul exhibition from way back now? It's been years and years. Do we remember one of the moments that went super-viral? and people said Floyd knocked Logan out, then helped him up. That didn't happen. Logan never was knocked out by a Floyd Mayweather punch and then held up.

But this was one of the keys to the exhibition, to the fight, was Logan using his size and frame to smother Floyd, even when he got hit with punches so that Floyd either couldn't follow up or that Logan could just put his weight on him, make Floyd hold his weight, tire him out, and Logan could take a rest. Remember this clip from way back. Right hand, Logan falls in. This happened a lot during their fight.

And no, Logan is not knocked out here. But this is something that happened so much in their fight, where Logan, using his frame, using his size, was able to wear on Floyd, was able to frustrate him. Floyd couldn't get to him with the jab. Logan's jab was better than Floyd anticipated. Now, one thing I want to show you about this clip, maybe you missed it. Floyd landed a punch here.

And yes, it may have hurt Logan. But he wasn't as accurate as he wanted to be. And this is where I think Gervante, in some ways, is even more accurate. than Floyd. I know it sounds crazy, but you think about Jervantes' punch output versus this punch landing and what that punch does to people. No one at this point expected Floyd to knock Logan out. He was too old, too small, hands too brittle, right? And I don't mean that disrespectfully, I'm just mean Logan's 200 pounds. Let's watch this clip again. You know, Logan again

leans on Floyd. Floyd holds him there, but you see Logan try to go to the lead hand up or cut off the level change, big swing and a miss with the right hand. Look at Floyd load on his back foot and just, I mean, just barely miss what was a step-in counter-up or cut. Lean, bang. Which is the right punch to go to because Floyd has the best boxing IQ maybe of anyone ever. He just barely misses it. And even with a barely miss, he still hits him with the punch. It's just not as clean as he wanted.

Again, we're drawing all these lines of comparison and what potentially could happen. What if I told you that exact sequence is what Jervante Davis is working right now in camp? Here is a recent clip from Jervante Davis's instance. Instagram, and I think this is exactly the type of thing you do to a guy that's a little bit more green than you are, is nowhere near the level of boxing that Dervante has. That's the same experience or ability, in my opinion. How do you take advantage of his weight?

Usually what would be his strength, how do you take advantage of it? Well, you make yourself bigger like Dervante seems to be doing. He doesn't have to cut weight, so he'll probably walk in there a little bit bigger than his walking around weight. It's a risk because you're still going a good amount of rounds. How do you hold that weight? Still a risk, because you're still going, I don't know if it's eight or ten rounds,

but you've got to hold that weight, especially against a guy that's 200 pounds. But it also allows you to sit down on heavy punches when this same scenario, think Logan Floyd happens in their fight. Look at this training. You see this. You see Jake, they're already, I love this.

They're anticipating Jake in the clinch, looking to, again, put his body weight on tank, bigger man, use his size, lean on you, weigh on you, and you see the post in the front. from tank post frame hold hold bang lead hand uppercut and again something that's key here is if they want to be in this position they have Jake laying on tank they don't have Jake's hands overhooking tank's hands look at it's a very very subtle little nuance in this back and forth

the difference between this tank's hands over the top and this Logan's hands over the top Logan has his in an overhook Floyd has the underhook He can't punch with the underhook He has to kind of stay there Until he can get his hand free And then go But Hank Davis he has learned from Floyd

And he has learned in multiple different situations Where he's been the smaller man He's gonna overhook your hands You go ahead and try to clinch me I'm getting that overhook because I'm gonna hold your hands down I'm gonna pin your arms To where you can't punch And then when I'm ready

I'm going to release, boom, with the uppercut up the middle. Release, bang, boom, underneath left hand. Love that. Here's the over, look at that, overhook again, right there until I'm ready. Off the lead foot, boom, pop the head up. And again, here comes Jake, okay, we're in a tussle, we're in a tussle, lean on my lead foot, uppercut, left hand, roll, and hook left hand down the middle. That is good stuff.

Again, one of the things that we have seen Jake struggle with, even in the Mike Tyson fight, if we go back, one of the things Jake has struggled with so much is his feet. His feet gets so wide and he gets a little flat-footed at times. And especially when he throws a big power punch, his feet get a little stab. We see here, even the jab and the retreat off the jab. He stabs him with the jab, but look at how wide his feet are. If Jake tries to even potentially throw a right hand here,

there's no leverage on it. So he has to get out of range and come back. Now this time when he throws it, step, throw. But look, look where he throws that from. Look at the off balance nature of this. Like that's still a good right hand. And honestly, if he lands it, that would probably knock tank out. Just because he's that big a dude.

But he's so out of position here that if there is a follow-up to any of these punches, Jake's either going to have to go straight back or he's going to be hit with something. Now imagine, same scenario, we get this exchange right here. Same spot. Bang bang?

Jake's overthrown the right hand, slip. Bang bang. I'm not saying it's likely. I'm just saying it's possible. There are things that if you look at Jake's game, and I'm not saying that these two sequences are everything in Jake's game in this Mike Tyson fight. It's not what I'm saying.

But this is a pattern that you recognize with Jake is that when you do see him load up on shots, he becomes very off balance. Plant, throw, hit or miss we're foot off the ground all our weight on our lead foot and now we're having to push back off that lead foot

and almost jump back out of range just to save ourselves from being in bad bad spots that's the thing I'm saying and this is why when you talk about the green kind of newer to boxing nature of Jake when things need to be regulated when he needs to go to something to get himself out of trouble he will revert back to the things that have got him to the dance

which is the jab overhand. Jab to the body overhand or step back overhand. And he will throw everything he has behind it. Trust me, I've seen it too many times. It will happen if we get to a point where Jake's jab has been broken, the range has been taken, and he's being pushed backward. I don't know if I see that happening a lot, especially early, but it could if we see Tank at a bigger size,

utilizing the body shots, and frustrating Jake by not being where he expects him to be and making him overthrow and make him. and miss. Still, it's hard for me to believe a guy Tank's size is going to be able to knock out Jake, but if there's a way, they're working on the right ones. They have learned from what happened in the Logan and Floyd fight, and we'll do breakdowns on all this stuff as we lead up. And I thought this was special. I thought it was interesting to see Tank. I mean, he's kind of exposing how he wants to knock out Jake, and he's also kind of exposing the blueprint to do it. If you're going to

hurt Jake, you have to catch him off guard, you have to low him to sleep with your timing and your and you have to clip him when he's overextended or when he tries to use his power size and frame to lay way and prey on the little guy. And Tank also in this fight has to be a bit bigger than the little guy. I think I'm seeing all those things happen right now, but maybe I'm making too much of a big deal over nothing. Maybe these little clips that I'm seeing and the things they're working on, they don't mean as much.

And I think a guy like Tank who seems to be able to bring his skill from the gym into the ring is going to be able to capitalize on stuff like this, where Jake does make a lot of mistakes. There are moments where he can be capitalized on. Tank, by the way, made some mistakes in the Lamont Roach fight. I was wondering about his headspace, but I'm starting to believe he's taking this more serious than I thought. For Jake Paul, that's very dangerous.

So, what do you guys think? I'm starting to look and lean like Tank might be able to have some opportunities to actually hurt Jake. Knock him out? I don't know about. I am still to rack my brain and think 135 pound or 150, 10060 pounder can knock out a guy with experience, with some skill and some ability in the boxing ring that's 210, 15 pounds.

I still don't know. I'm still not ready to make that leap, but I'm saying it's possible. If there's a guy to do it at that lower weight class, it's probably Tank Davis. Let me know what you guys think down below. We're about three and a half weeks away. But what happens in this fight on November 14th can take actually knock Jake out. I don't have those answers. But I guess we'll find out.

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the breakdown all right so everywhere you turn on the internet right now everyone is i don't want to it is glazing to a degree but everyone is on the tom aspinall hype train and i understand why because tom aspinall since he's gotten to the ufc is pretty much made light work of every fighter he's ever stood in front of outside of the weird kind of knee injury TKO loss to Curtis Blades, which he then came back and beat Curtis Blades very dominantly in their second fight. So it's hard. It's hard to look at Tom Asmanol's strength of schedule here if we're using college football terms and believe there's anybody on there that would have been threatening to Tom. So yeah, I mean, it is a bit of a difficult thing to look at anybody on Tom's record as we

as we take a look here. And act like any of it was really a challenge to Tom Aspinall. Maybe, maybe, you know, Sergei would have been. Papelvic was a big puncher and potentially could have given Tom some problems, but stood right in the pocket with him and got dropped. I mean, yeah, I just don't see any. I mean, the heavyweight division is rough right now. It is awful.

And outside of two or three big names that you could mention right now in that division, a Sergey Papelvic, Curtis Blades, a Alexander Volkov, A surreal guy of Tom Aspinall, there really isn't anyone that's there that either gets people excited or presents an opportunity for Tom Aspinall to potentially have a tough matchup. Now, without all that being said, this strength of schedule doesn't really tell me a lot about Tom Aspinall and what his capabilities are when he goes to that next level. Do I think Surreal Gone is that next level? No, I don't.

I think the Surreal Gan is this level, the level of guys that he's already beaten, which is why I am picking Tom Aspinall to win this fight. I know Wade Curse is in effect. it is what it is. But I do see some dangerous elements to this fight. And I'm very interested to see what happens when Tom fights probably the best striker he's ever seen in Surreal Gone. But the problem is this isn't kickboxing. It's not boxing. It's MMA. So Tom has more well-rounded skills than Surreal-Gone. And again, I think you'll see that in about 10 days. But let's break the fight down and kind of go step by step as to why this will probably be the toughest fight that Tom has had. Or maybe

it won't be. Maybe Tom will do what he does in all these different fights and walk out in the first round and knock a motherfucker dead. His entire fight history is incredible. It's first round, second round, and nothing else. I mean, predominantly of the, how many fights he had, 18 fights, one, two, three. Is it just three? So 15 of his 18 fights have finished in the first round. And of the 15 that have finished, he's finished 14 of them. And again, the Curtis Blade's weird, you know, fluky knee injury thing. That, you can't really hold that against him. But this is a strength and potentially a weakness of Tom Aspinall. I know you guys have heard it from every MMA channel

on the internet over the last couple of months that Tom Aspinall still is yet to prove what he can do over five rounds. And it's not his fault. If you go out and Merck a motherfucker in three minutes, that's what happens. But it is going to be interesting to see because Cyril Gan has gone, no pun intended,

five rounds a couple of different times now. And when you look at Cyril Gan's record, yes, it's a bit of an up and down when it comes to how he gets fights done. But the only two actually... losses, even though you can argue that Alexander Volkov beat him, the only two losses that he has are to John Jones and Francis Inganu, two former champions, right? So this is his, technically his third actual title opportunity, even though he won the interim title off Derek

Lewis. But look at the different varieties in which Surreal Gan can fight and win. He wins by TKO early in his career, obviously not so much as he's gotten into his later part, not known as a massive power striker, but a guy that can overwhelm you, but five rounds, five rounds, he's gone the distance three times and gone past the second round, one, two, three, four, five, eight times. So he understands what it means to go late into fights and find victory. But these numbers, these names, this win loss, doesn't tell the whole story of this fight. We have Cyril Gan, who is predominantly a, I wouldn't say kickboxer, but a striker on the feet, a guy that can use his elbows, knees, feet, hands, the art of the eight limbs, Surreal Gan, and

is very good. He stands bladed and in both stances, he can hit you again with his kicks upstairs as well. And in this fight, he will present a reach advantage on Tom Aspinall, who is, I think, the same height as Surilgan. I think they're both around 6'4. But Tom Aspinall's reaches 78 inches, Surreal 81. So if you are looking at ways that Surilgan can present problems for Tom Aspel. Number one, I think everything has to do with his takedown defense or his grappling defense versus Tom Aspinall's grappling offense. Now, Tom, not really known as a big-time offensive wrestler, but will do it in spurts,

the beautiful takedowns he had of Alexander Volkov and the submissions there. I do think that he is better known for his black belt in Brazilian jiu-jitsu been grappling for forever, but it's the offensive grappling that I want to see how legit it is versus someone that has now seen that Tom is dangerous with his grappling, right? I want to see what Cyril Ghan,

who has been in there with John Jones and got completely obliterated, who was outgrappled by Francis, and again, you see a common theme here. The guys that out grapple Saril Gan usually beat him. That doesn't sound good for Surreal Gan when he's fighting a guy like Tom Aspinall who is way more well-rounded.

And I think, especially in this fight, Surreal-Gon might be the better, and probably is the better striker. Out of the two of them. He probably is the better striker with all eight contact points than Tom Aspinall. Does that mean that he was going to win this fight by a knockout? No.

And in fact, if somebody was going to get knocked out, I'd favor Tom Aspinall to knock Surreal gone out because one, Tom goes for it. We'll stand there in the pocket with you. Sometimes even trade with his chin up, which is dangerous. We'll get back to that. But he commits to his punches and he has real knockout power, one punch knockout power, whereas Cyril Gan does tend to have to overwhelm you. And I know it's heavyweight and anybody can get knocked out.

I'm just showing you the differences. So if Surreal is going to do this and if Tom is going to be in legitimate danger, it will be because Surreal has either established a distance that Tom can't shoot from with his kicks, eating up the legs, the push kicks, the teeps. There's a lot of techniques that Surreal throws that do keep the distance and keep him in the outside range to where he can circle the cage. And if you notice in a lot of his fights, including the Francis and Ganu fight, where yes, Francis had some knee issues and wasn't necessarily as mobile as he needed to be.

That's all Surreal did, was poke at him from the outside and was winning that fight until Francis and Ganu decided to grapple. And it wasn't necessarily a super damaging level of grappling. It was just control. He was able to control Cyril gone, and it wasn't really hard for him to do it. And that's another big problem. If you're surreal, if you get pushed up against the fence and Cyril loves to fight off his back foot, he loves to kind of invite the pressure and then circle around it and tag you from the outside

and then blitz you with the combinations and switch and stance. And there's just a lot of things he likes to do off your forward movement that again put him in really bad spots, especially with the guy like Tom who was looking to get to boxing range. And if he is an in boxing range or if he's not having success where he's at, he will potentially initiate that grappling, then come upstairs with the striking. It's a whole mess. So Cyril has to keep his distance, I think,

at least early, and see if he can start to win this fight on a point scale system by using his reach, by using his kicks, by being more calculated and technical with his striking versus being super aggressive because we've seen how that works out for anybody that wants to be super aggressive with Tom Aspinall. They get dealt a swift hand of NyQuil

and the fights over and, you know, 30 seconds. So that can't happen. And that's not who Surreal God is. So I think that is at least how you want to start the fight. On the other side, Tom Aspinall, I'll be interested to see how he approaches this fight because he has made a statement running through this heavyweight division. And I'll be honest, heavyweight in the UFC is probably the worst technical division in the sport. It has no names that anyone recognizes. It doesn't have a ton of fighters with a massive skill set and an ability to to hang with a fighter as well-rounded as Tom Aspinall and this is why you've seen virtually nobody

ascend through the ranks of this new era of heavyweight. What's his name, Jalton Almeida? We'll see what he does, but there's not a ton of big-name heavyweights and there's not a ton of guys that look like they can challenge Tom Aspinall right now. If Tom goes in there and just demolish this real guy, he will reign over this heavyweight division for a very long time

unless John jumps comes back. And I know people aren't given John a chance there, but I think John still possesses the fight IQ skill, maybe not the speed and youthfulness that he had, but I think it could be an interesting fight. Regardless, if Tom takes this fight and doesn't get overzealous with the, let me walk in there and knock this guy out in one round and dip, but fights his fight, stays aggressive and is patient,

this could be an all-time performance for Tom Aspedal. I don't doubt that. But there is something about fighting a striker is dangerous and is varied and has more variety like a surreal gone does, that maybe you do underestimate a bit of his grappling defense. And all, I can just take him down whatever, so let's start with the hands and get caught with something early. I don't know. But if you're Tom Aspinall, I think either being in close proximity to Surreal Gan, being inside that that kick

range, punch and in clinch range is perfect for Tom or being completely out. Either one of those things is good for Tom Aspinall because if you're in the mid-range where he can kick you and you can't kick him or he can touch you and you can't touch him, then it becomes a point fight. And in a point fight with a point fighter like Surreal-Gon, you're going to lose that. At least you're going to lose rounds because of that. And I want to see what happens if Tom is having to use more of his grappling and isn't as successful with it right off the bat. Right. What we've seen right now is Tom Asman I'll be massively successful with his grappling and striking and pretty much everything he wants to do right now at heavyweight. This is like a, you know, watching Mike Tyson just run through

the heavyweight division in his early 20s and knocking motherfuckers dead and just wondering, okay, does this guy have any weakness? And you weren't able to see it because the fights were lasting 40 seconds, 20 seconds, 15, you know, and you didn't get to know if what's his gas tank look like. What happens when he does fight someone that is able to move their head or can get inside and work him to the body and then touch him up upstairs and they've got a nasty hook as well and Tyson isn't able to get off center line or his rhythms interrupted. All those things came to fruition later in Tyson's career. When people weren't scared of him or whatever, there's a sense of, okay, what does Tom do if he doesn't knock a guy out in the first round or he doesn't take him

down and submit him right away. And I know that's like the worst way to analyze a fight. What happens if he isn't a good fighter? That's not realistic. But you do have to ask those questions because can you keep that same intensity later into the fight? And it is a lot about Tom's gas tank. If things don't work out early or if things become predictable, then what do you have? Do you have another layer past that? And again, I think Tom is more well-rounded than Surreal. But even if you are more well-rounded, you still have to be able to get to the positions where you're better. If Cyril is just working take down defense like a fucking madman and is able to hold Tom just at bay for a couple of rounds,

then cardio does become a factor. For a, what I look at, when I see Tom Aspinall, I know Surreal is cut up and he is fast twitch, I think, as well. And he slows down his fights goes on a little bit as well. But when I look at Tom Aspidal, everything he does, it looks like is fast twitch. Very explosive, a lot of movement. He's very quick.

He's very fast. everything you'll hear leading into fight week next week about Tom Aspinall is agility, explosivity, power. That's what you're going to hear about. And that's true. But when it comes down to what happens if that goes, that's where we will get into the Wild Wild West. I don't know what happened.

If Tom suddenly is in round three, maybe banked a couple of rounds, but is starting to feel the effects of fatigue. And that's really the only way I see Tom losing this fight is if he does gas himself out. Or if he takes stupid risks and decides he wants to kickbox with Surreal Gan, which I don't see happening. I think Tom is a smart enough, well-rounded MMA fighter to not put himself at a disadvantage round after round or to blow his wad early, for lack of a better term.

But that is where the danger lies. And let me be clear, Surreal Gan can win this fight. I know he's like a plus 270 underdog, but he has the ability striking on the feet. And even in the Francis and Ganu fight, at least at the early part of the fight, Surreal Gan did a decent enough job of keeping himself. When he put his back on the cage, he was able to get out. He was able to fight through, grab underhooks, pivot out, and reset. And then later in the fight, Francis eventually found his grappling ability

and ended up dumping Suril Gan on his head. But it also took Francis, an unsuccessful five-round fight versus a younger Steepai Miotich and then beating Steepa to understand that experience level. If you guys remember when Francis had to go five rounds for the first time after he had knocked everybody out in the division, And again, I'm not saying Francis is Tom Aspinall, completely different fighters, but after he was knocking motherfuckers dead, sent Alistair overreem's head to the moon, and he had to go five rounds with Steepay, you saw the gas tank deplete like this.

And that was without grappling, that was just with striking. That was just with explosive, high-level, massive movements. Now, Tom is a bit more efficient with his striking. And again, I am assuming he is more prepared to be more well-rounded than Francis ever could have at that point or ever thought of. Because Tom's been doing this a little bit longer. But when I talk about the danger of this fight for Tom Aspinall, it's a couple of things. Number one, Tom is pretty much the last hope right now of heavyweight to create a new star for a while.

I mean, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe there's other heavyweights coming through and they're going to be the next big thing. But as of right now, Tom Aspinall is the biggest thing the UFC has seen at heavyweight since Francis Inganu. And since John Jones, right? John, since he's retired and has not really been looked at the same way by the MMA community, He doesn't seem to have the same cachet right now as a Tom Aspinall, at least for the hardcore fan base. I still think as a casual viewer, Tom Aspinall is nowhere near John Jones's name, legacy, any of that. But losing this would be, I mean, it wouldn't be catastrophic for Tom Aspinall, but it would set back a lot of the good work he's done at heavyweight to gain this massive fan base.

So I think there is a lot of pressure there. And let's not forget again, Zeril Gahn has essentially four, or this will be his fourth, with one interim title fight, right? this will be his fourth title fight, which gives you a lot more experience. For Tom, however you want to look at some of these fights, he's had two, essentially, title fights, and he's done well in both of those, but this one feels like a lot more pressure. This one feels like there are things that Tom Aspinall is going to have to deal with this time around that he hasn't in opportunities past, not just outstriking Curtis Blades, who on the feet doesn't really have it. Even then, Curtis Blades caught him with something right before he was caught.

Sergei catching Tom Aspinall with something right before he was caught, but both guys not having the technical ability of a surreal gun to stand and actually see what's what on the feet. Now again, I'm not saying that's what happens, but this is a dangerous fight for many reasons outside of the cage and inside it. For Tom Aspinall's aura of invincibility, which right now the entire MMA community thinks he's going to walk through Surreal Gone in one round.

And if he does that, then fucking, yeah, start the parade, hit the fireworks. This guy is on a trajectory upward that we haven't seen in a long time at heavyway. But you also have to have someone to put him in there with, and we'll get to that when we get to it. Hopefully that's John Jones, maybe it's Alex Pereira, I don't know. But I'm telling you guys, this is a dangerous fight. I would say it's a dangerous fight based on what happens in the first round. If Tom is not as successful as he normally used to in that first and to mid-second round,

then this thing becomes a very dangerous fight. Hit the panic button moment if we get into round three and it's a 1-1 fight or it's not going Tom's way. But conversely, we haven't seen Tom Aspenol quit, at least not in the UFC. We haven't seen him in really any trouble. And we've seen on the other side, surreal gone, when things get a little tough, the grit, the grind, I wonder if it's there. I'd hope so. This is his third title opportunity. But there is something to be said for a guy that's never tasted defeat really in the UFC.

I know he's had some losses outside of the UFC, got ankle hooked or heel hooked by somebody before he got there. And I don't know what happened in his other, I guess he had illegal elbows to a guy that he got DQed for. So Tom hasn't had real defeat in this level of competition. and with this amount of exposure, I think that's going to serve him well, the confidence level walking in there, never having been defeated with that belt around his waist and on his shoulder versus Cyril Gan,

who already knows what it's like to lose and lose in terrible fashion. That can be a motivator or that could be something you become comfortable with. Anyway, I do think there's danger in this fight for Tom Aspinall. Not because he's overlooking, not because he should be, but because Suril Gan is a bit of a wildcard, especially on the feet. And if Tom Aspinall is not successful early,

what does Plan B look like? What happens when we need, I know he said he's preparing for five rounds, and that's great. I think Tom should prepare for five rounds. I don't think that any fighter should be preparing to walk in there and knock a guy out and dip, and if that doesn't happen, what do we do? But it is a real thing. When you get in there, no matter how much you prepared for five, how much did you anticipate not being successful in one or two?

If that's the case, and you can't find your range striking, and because you can't find your range striking, you can't find your takedowns, or you can't find your grappling, then what happened? These are all things that we need to consider when talking about this fight. Now, with all that being said, I've thrown at you a couple of different scenarios. One being Tom Aspinall walks in there, knocks out Cyril Gone in the first one or two rounds. Two being Seril gone handles himself very well on the feet, frustrates Tom Aspinall. Tom overextends, gets hit with something.

Surreal potentially follows up TKO Seril gone or Surreal controls the fight from the outside using his kicks, his teeps. Tom can't get rhythm, starts to gas and Surreal wins a decision because Tom just can't put it together late. Or we see something we've never seen before, which is Tom Aspenall thriving into the later rounds. If that happens, I would be more, I mean, I'll be impressive whatever happened. But if Tom were to find a way to be fresh in the later rounds and dominating this 5-50-44, 50-45 type stuff, I would probably be not more impressed because a knockout is still a knockout,

but I'd be very impressed with that performance as well. And having said it all, I think this, like I said, I keep going back to it. I think surreal gone being slept on the way he is is absolutely insane. I think he's got a very good chance of at least pushing Tom to a place he's never been. But I still, at least right now, I still have to think that Tom Aspinall is going to get this fight done. I just don't see the places that Surreal Gan is better being good enough for him to stop what's in front of him, right? Just being a good striker, in my opinion, is not enough to stop Tom Aspinall from beating you. Because, again, he is so varied in his offense.

He doesn't necessarily get hit a ton. He's lost in the UFC, but not really. He got hurt versus Curtis Blades. Both men have their chin exposed. him back when they strike sometimes, so that's a toss-up. But if this fight is to ever change from feet to ground, it will be because Tom got a hold of Suril Gan. And let's not forget, it wasn't just John Jones that out grappled Suril Gan. It wasn't even just Francis Ngano that did, but Alexander Volkov slung him around as well. And again, we could argue that Volkov should have won that

fight. And I just think when it comes to the well-rounded nature of MMA, Tom is better. He is. And if he's able to prove that in this fight, then again, the sky is the limit for Tom when it comes to a potential matchup at the White House with, I would hope, John Jones or Alex Pereira, either one. But if you're overlooking as a fan, not Tom, but if you're overlooking Suril Gan, you're making a mistake. He will at least be ready, cardio-wise, striking-wise, have no idea how he's going to deal with Tom's takedowns. I don't know how Tom is going to deal with Surreal's maybe improved takedown defense. But like I said, every fight's a dangerous one, but this one particularly more, in my opinion, for Tom Aspinall, because Surreal

is a better striker than everyone. Tom has ever fought. And heavyweight, one kick, one punch, one elbow, one knee can change the entire fight. And I don't know if I've seen Tom Aspinall under more pressure than he will be on Saturday, October 25th. And that's a big, big deal. Yeah, there was pressure for Curtis Blades. Yes, there was pressure for Sergei Papelvic, but this one's different. Everyone thinks Tom Aspinall is going to win this fight.

Everyone is already looking toward the White House card. Everyone's already talking about Tom Aspinall Alex Pereira or Tom Aspinall John Jones at the White House. There's all these plans lined up. And here's the real God, who no one is really thinking about, no one's talking about it. gives a chance to win. I would say this is the least pressure he's been under. Maybe even less pressure than the John Jones fight because Jones was looked at as, you know, potentially a little older and slower coming up to heavyweight. This is a freaking catalack of heavyweights. People are telling me about Tom Aspinall. So Cyril gone under almost no pressure. Can he get it done?

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More videos coming up on this, obviously. So, guess, We'll find out. All right, so we are back on the way concept presented by the Ring Magazine. And folks, we just had one of the craziest heavyweight fights I've seen in a while. Joseph Parker versus Fabio Wardley for the WBO interim title. It was an absolute banger that is going to be marred in conspiracy. As Fabio Wardley stops Joseph Parker in the 11th round, the improbable, insane run for Wardley continues,

but it wasn't without question. And what do I mean? The breakdown, let's go. All right, so, like I said, WBO interim heavyweight championship winner to face Alexander Usik. You have Joseph Barker who is probably rightfully earned the opportunity to fight Alexander Usik. Should have gotten it before Dubois got his rematch because Dubois Parker were supposed to fight. Dubois didn't fight him. We still don't know really the reason why. It was alleged sickness.

Then Parker should have had his second opportunity after Usik beat Dubois, but Usik gets injured. Therefore, he can't defend in time. They give him extension, and Parker takes the Wardley fight. So a risky move from Joseph Parker to take the Fabio Wardley fight. But he does, and because he does, this opportunity may have just slipped away from him. On the other side, Fabio Wardley, a man, this is incredible to say, but just started boxing 10 years ago at the age of 20. He's now 30. He only had, I think they said four white collar boxing fights.

That's right, the misfit style boxing fights before he turned pro and then started an improbable run that has led him to the top of the heavyweight mountain at this point. He is the number one contender for the heavyweight championship of the WBO. And this opportunity versus Joseph Parker comes after an improbable win versus Justice Hooney, where he is losing damn near every round of that fight. And Hooney is doing his thing and then right hand on the button, Wardley hits him and stops him. You could say it was a quick 10 count, but I'm saying to you, it was insane to see. And Wardley ends up in this fight.

And from the rip, the idea that Joseph Parker, and even in my mind, was going to stop Fabio Wardley. It almost happened. In the first round, that was the reality we almost saw as Joseph Parker tagged Wardley with big time shots. And I thought, oh shit, this is going to be the moment where Joseph Parker stops Wardley and rightfully finally gets his shot against Alexander Usick. Turns out Fabio Wardley's got a chin of steel just like Joseph Parker, dude, who by the way, Parker came into this fight at 260 plus pounds. That was the same weight that Tyson Fury weighed the first time he fought Alexander. Anyway, round one looked like Parker made it may stop Wardley. Hit him with some big shots had him wobbled a bit, had him on the ropes. And then in round two, Wardley comes out and damn near stops Joseph Parker. It's him with some big punches. And again, I don't want to undersell this. Joe Parker looked great in this fight. He looked stout. He looked like an experienced heavyweight. He looked like what he has done on this boogie man style run that he was going to overwhelm Wardley, that he was in this first round especially going to be the better, more experienced fighter. But he also had big time power.

he was bringing in with this 260 pound frame. But on the other side of it, you had Fabio Wardley who did not shy away at any point in this fight. Wardley looked fast. He looked explosive. He looked technical and he looked sound. Yes, there were things that he was doing that you could still say, yes, Fabio Wardley is very green. Moving straight back, his hands were very low, pretty much the majority of the fight. He was getting hit with stuff. Thank God his again, his chin is made of animanium. Both guys were for the most part. But he was having a hard time dealing with the power of, of, Joseph Parker while still having his own power. I mean he again he was just landing really quick

punctual technical jab right hand uppercut underneath it hook right hand when he wanted to let him go you can see he belongs at the top level of heavyweight which was a question we had coming into this thing and Fabio Wardley definitively answered even before he got the win that he belonged at the top level of this so from that second round it's a bit of a back and fourth third I thought Wardley won the fourth I thought Parker won could argue either way on that and then it started to become a Joseph Parker fight where he was again taking over in close rounds he would finish strong he would land big power he would have the bigger moments and he would back Wardley up Wardley fighting off the back foot for most of the fight around five six seven and

eight again close rounds you could go more so to Wardley and some and more so to Parker and others but I had this going into round 10 I had this a six to three favored fight for Joseph Parker and then in round 10 after Parker had hit Wardley with stuff and wow He doubled him and hurt him and he thought, man, maybe Parker's going to get him out this round. Maybe he's going to get him out this round and Wardley just kept hanging in. And even when he was hurt, he was able to counter off while being on the ropes and throw big shots to stop a little bit of that momentum from Joseph Parker, who I thought, when he had Wardley hurt in certain moments. And he wanted to finish and he wanted to go in for the kill.

Really couldn't do that because of the power and the fire coming back from Wardley. Those were the moments where I thought if Parker could have taken advantage where he had Wardley hurt in several of the rounds, then we may have seen a different outcome in this fight. But instead, he wasn't able to. Wardley was able to land one shot, clinch him, referee would separate him, do something to where Joseph Parker would have to stop his onslaught and reset.

And that was a big problem that I think eventually left the opening for Wardley to come back into this fight. And it happened in round 10. Just as Parker had in the previous two or three rounds, I thought he was finding a good groove of things and he was really a locomotive moving forward. These later rounds, these championship rounds where Fabio Wardley was not as experienced, where he didn't have this level of pressure and wherewithal and experience and grit and gas tank

and fatigue management, all these things you didn't know the answer to that you did. For Joseph Parker, Fabio Wardley stepped up. When I thought there were moments, he got hit with punches in this 10th round where it looked like he just didn't have the answer. He was frustrated and his hands would go down. His face would kind of be like, damn, I just can't figure this thing. out. He's just, he's more powerful to me. I can hit him with stuff and he hits me and it hurts me more. There was a moment in this 10th round where it clicked over and Wardley kind of gave him the,

you know, okay, come on. Got some confidence back in himself and fired off. I think it was a right hand, something that hurt Joseph Parker and he started teeing off at him toward the end of the round and I thought he was going to get a stoppage there and he's got Parker on the ropes and Parker's making him miss and trying to move his head and the round goes. And all of a sudden, What looked like a fight Joseph Parker was starting to run away with a little bit, starting to get ahead and starting to push and push. Again, close fight, you can judge it either way. I just looked at it like this was a, again, going into round 10, 6 to 3 fight for Joseph Parker.

Probably was going to be 7 to 3, but Wardley turns it around and wins the round at the end, making it 6'4. Going into the 11th round, we have a live fight on her hands. And Wardley, just as he finished the 10th round, came out in the 11th on fucking fire. This is what you want to see out of a relatively still at 30 years old, young heavyweight. No, he's not Mike Tyson in his 20s, no, he's not a guy that trained this sport from age 10. But he's still only 30 and heavy weights do last a little longer. And he came out for a guy that hadn't been there, for a guy that didn't understand that level of depth before,

it felt like he'd been there. It felt like a championship round for Wardley who came out and put it on Joseph Parker in this round. To a degree where it was one-way traffic. This wasn't him winning rounds back. This was him going bulldozer flatline. And Parker was trying. He was trying to come back. But there was a beautiful sequence when Parker went jab and Wardley slipped outside the jab. Bang the uppercut. And it hurt Parker. Put him on wobbly legs. Backed him up. He had his back on the ropes. Here comes Wardley and he's firing off and Parker had nothing for him. And here is where the controversy came. Wardley was firing off. Parker was not answering.

Where all the shots landing? No. But Parker clearly was hurt. He wasn't out on his feet. He wasn't stumbling to the point where he didn't have his balance. He was on wobbly legs. No doubt about it, but he was still in the fight. Moving his head, he was trying to hold his guard up. He was getting hit with shots and he was not answering with shots. But the referee, instead of what I think would have been appropriate at the time, which is maybe separate them and start a standing eight, or Joseph Parker maybe, again, it's playing Monday morning quarterback. You can't tell him to take a knee. He doesn't feel like he needs to. But I think there should have been an eight count here. The referee steps in and stops the fight. And Joseph Parker, deserved a little better than that. It was early. It was such a good fight. It was such a big moment for both fighters. And for Parker, how much was on the line for him after being turned away, turned away,

not getting his opportunity, being the boogeyman at heavyweight, he deserved longer. He deserved a better opportunity than the referee gave him. And for Wardley, a guy that, again, shouldn't even be at this level. He started boxing at 20 years old, been in this game 10 years,

started with white collar, no amateur experience, comes in, this to the boogeyman of the heavyweight scene right now. He's doing this to the guy that is supposed to be fighting Alexander Usik and Wardley's a massive underdog. And here he is having his moment and the referee, yeah, he waves it off and Wardley gets the win and what a moment, but he kind of robs him of that moment because you let that thing go for 10 more seconds. You let Parker get the standing eight or whatever and you still might have a Wardley knockout on your hands.

Who knows? But we won't ever know because the referee did step in early and that's the only thing that leaves a sour taste in my mouth is Joseph Parker deserved better than that. And this is not to take away from Fabio Wardley. Because what a moment for the young man. I mean, just an incredible showing from him never quit, was down in this fight, came back, and stops Joseph Parker. I don't like the stoppage. I don't like it.

I've watched it over and over. And it's clearly early to him. You even see Joseph Parker look at the referee like, no, like he's not out of it. Sure he was hurt. But he deserves the right to go through that moment and try to will himself. back because Wardley had been hurt many times in this fight. And Parker too early on. But that's what a back and forth fight is. You let these two warriors find out who is willing to go to hell and back. And they were doing that. And it's just one of the things that puts a sour taste in your mouth in boxing

is when a referee takes that liberty and takes that moment from both fighters. And again, if you're on the side of things where Parker wasn't answering shots, he was getting 20 unanswered shots put on him, I get it. I still think it was a little early. I still think Parker had his wits about I think he deserved the eight count if you were going to look to stop that fight. You give him that opportunity to regather himself and go for it. But that's just my opinion. I thought it was early. And it does take a bit away from the moment.

But man, still, what a fucking moment for Fabio Wardley. Again, I can't help but be excited for the kid. It was just an incredible night, man, because he shouldn't have looked as good as he did. And Parker looked great. This is not taking anything away from Joseph Parker. Was he a tad bit too heavy coming in? Maybe. Didn't look as agile in those later rounds.

as I thought potentially he would like he did against Wilder and others. But he still looked fantastic and he had fucking dynamite in his hands. When he connected on Wardley, it was like he had never felt some of that stuff before. He probably hadn't. But Wardley, the heart to stay in there, the will to keep going. When he's down some of these rounds and he's frustrated, you can see it on his face, he just keeps going and he digs and he shows championship mentality. And again, it just comes down to that moment in the 11th round

where the referee steps in prematurely. I hate it. I hate it for Joseph Parker. It is what it is. Fabio Wardley. Here's the thing. As a fan, it doesn't take away from Joseph Parker to me. But as a selfish way of looking at it because it does take away. It does take away his potential shot at Alexander Uzick. Let's say he survives there and wins the 12th. This is going to be a Joseph Parker win probably. But he doesn't get that now. He doesn't get that big payday. And Fabio Wardly does. Fair play. That's how the cookie crumbles. And at the end of the day, it's fight. It's combat sports. But man, it's just an unfortunate moment. very controversial. I think it was a bad stoppage. I think it was an early stoppage, but I do think Fabio Wardley,

he may not be the most technically sound, he may not be the most crisp, but damn, he's talented. And I wish he would have started boxing five years earlier even, because he has made such a close in the gap of what it takes to be an experienced boxer, his athleticism, his speed, the guy that moves like that at 240 at his size, woo, I liked, he was very impressive to me in this fight. Parker as well, and again, it's an unfortunate ending, but now we look to what's next. And I saw people saying, you know, do a Wardley and Moses of Tauma title eliminator, fuck all that. Wardley deserves now the shot to fight Alexander Usik.

He just does. That's what you get for winning the interim WPO championship of the world. Usik is the title holder. Now, do I think Fabio Wardley has what it takes to beat Usik? I don't know. And if I'm looking at it right away, no. Alexander Usik is the best in the world. And it seems like by a great margin, I didn't think that Parker was going to

to be Alexander Usick, I don't think Wardley will. That doesn't mean he shouldn't get his opportunity to try. It's the same thing we were arguing and fighting about for Joseph Parker. He didn't get his shot. This is what this young man deserves. And who knows, it is still heavyweight boxing at the end of the day. And Wardley is now two fights in a row shown no matter how far he's down in a fight. He's still looking for that one shot. You better be perfect. What did he say for 36 minutes and he just needs to be perfect for one moment. What an entertaining fight. What an entertaining night of fights. It's unfortunate, clear early stoppage, and it really, really is a disservice to Joseph Parker to do that. I can't speak to that enough.

It was such a bad early stoppage to me, but I have to give it up for Fabio Wardley. For both fighters, it's just an unfortunate way to end. But Fabio Wardley wins. By TKO referee stoppage. What do you guys think in the comments? Let me know down below. And what happens in a Wardley Usik fight? What's next for Joseph Parker?

I don't have any of those answers, but I guess we'll find out. All right, so we are back on the way concept presented by the Ring Magazine. And today we are here to talk about the controversy that was the eye poke of doom. That's right. Captain Insano in the form of Cyril Gan taking two fingers and shoving them into Tom Aspinall's eyes. It was clearly on purpose. It was clearly intentional. It clearly has gotten out of hand. People are losing their minds over this and acting as though Suril Gan is an ultimate evil villain in a movie when in reality guys this is fighting and yes UFC 321 could have been a massive moment almost was and

yes it was a letdown and we're going to cover all the conspiracy theories but none of this was on purpose and it was handled kind of in the most perfect way you can i know that's not the sensational headline that's not the clickbait thumbnail whatever but it's just unfortunate what do i mean tom aspen all surreal gone ends in a no contest and we didn't really learn anything we didn't already know or maybe we did let's break the whole thing down. But before we do, I want to say a big thank you to the sponsor of today's video, First Form. That's right, guys. First Form is the best supplement provider on the planet, and they have hooked me up with a ton of goodies to tell you guys about starting with the First Form Power Pro bars. These bad boys are great meal replacements to get me through the day

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And the fallout from this will be one of the biggest things that happens in MMA. Tom Aspinall, Cyril Gan. Okay, I told you guys coming into this fight that there is a real possibility that Surreal Gone was going to be a problem for Tom Aspinall. As much as everyone had spoken about this being Tom Aspinall cutting through Surreal gone like a hot knife through butter throughout the entire lead-up. And they did that because the MMA work. so badly wants Tom Aspinall to be better than John Jones, not just now, potentially ever was,

because of the narratives that have now developed about the people that John Jones fought when he fought them. I've been hearing for the last couple of years that John never fought a good fighter. John never had a great resume. He just fought a bunch of bloated. It used to be bloated middleweights, then it was bloated welter weights. Now I'm hearing bloated lightways. Are we just going to continue this bullshit? And of course, the PED usage from John Jones.

That does disqualify him from a lot of people considering him the greatest of all time. But this fight was about more than that. It was a direct comparison, which is unfair completely. And MMA doesn't work like remedial school math where one plus one equals two. But it was a direct line comparison. What will Tom Aspinall do against the guy that John Jones made his debut at heavyweight against and made look like easy work? John Jones walked into a fight with Surreal Gone, his first fight at heavyweight and submitted him in under two minutes. It was easy.

He didn't get hit. He ducked under a left hand, body lock, took him down. So the question was, how does Tom Aspinall fight this? version of Surreal Gan arguably lost his last fight to Alexander Volkov, even though he got the win there. And he'd already lost two title fights versus John Jones and Francis and Gano. If you want to be amongst the greats there, you have to beat Cyril Gahn because he's kind of the heavyweight gatekeeper. That's what he's become now. But I told you guys, if Surreal Gond is able to control the pace and distance of this fight using his reach advantage, using his kicks, and keeping away

from the big power of Tom Aspinall, stuff and takedowns when timely and necessary, this can become a problem for Aspinall because as much as we know he's a devastating puncher, as much as we know he is youthful, fast, agile, I've been told he moves like a welterweight. This was the fight where you were going to fight arguably a better athlete, not even arguably, I think Cyril Ghan is clearly a better athlete

than most of a fighter. So how do you deal with that level of heavy weight? Not the guys that you're better than, faster than, more powerful than that you can use your athleticism to be better than, but there's another athlete that's better than you. What do you do technically to beat him? Fight starts and we're finding out right away. This is going to be, like I said, a different fight

than a lot of people that said Tom Aspinall by however he wants is going to take his chin off. Cyril Gan was peppering Tom Aspinall with his jab and touching him to the body with it, going upstairs, bloody in the nose, keeping him at range with kicks. And by the way, I'm not going to sit here and do the narrative stuff Where you're going to hear from most creators on this, you're going to hear that Tom Aspinall was getting worked. Tom Aspinall was getting dominated. Tom Aspinall wasn't in the fight. It's not true.

This was a great back and forth fight. It was a great first round. This was one of those fights that started to have a big fight field as they walk to the cage because it's the heavyweight fucking title. For Christ's sakes, it should be the biggest fight in the UFC. It was very disappointing to see how it was promoted. It didn't feel like it until about five minutes before the fight started. Oh shit. Yeah. This is a fucking massive important thing. fight for the UFC right now. It felt like an afterthought in the fight buildup. Whether it was Tom Aspinall talking about how he wouldn't fight his friend, whether it was Dana White not really giving a shit about promoting this thing and the press conference being 20 minutes long, whether it was Tom Aspinall's dad saying, hey, listen, we're going to leave the sport in three fights. Again,

can't blame him if he wants to go get his back somewhere else, but it doesn't make somebody want to watch a heavyweight championship fight. When the champ's like, I'm going to be here for like three more fights. Give me a year and a half and I'm gone. That doesn't really compute with greatness. That means you're going to be here for a little bit and gone tomorrow. Regardless, it started to feel that way. And in the first round, you got a great heavyweight matchup. Two guys looking to strike. Two guys looking to go back and forth.

A bit of a technical kind of battle between the two where Tom Aspinall had to slow things down a little bit and he couldn't just be explosive and twitchy and fast because he, I think like a lot of people underestimated Surreal Gan, he did not. He knew he was going to have to be in this fight for more than just one round and it looked like he was starting to work himself into it. But also, Cyril Gan was prepared for pretty much everything. in that first round that Tom Aspinall had.

Like I said, Surreal was early and often with his jab. Out of the Southpaw stance, he was peppering Tom with it. He was bloody in the nose. He was snapping the head back. There was a nice short left hand that Surreal landed early on in the fight as well. It kind of set the tone to show Tom that it wasn't just going to be, you know, a bulldozing one-way traffic type of fight. And Tom, on the other hand, mixed a lot more stuff in this first round than you normally

would have to see him. Most guys want to stand in the pocket with him. You trade right hands, and Tom Aspinall usually wins that. Matter of fact, he damn near always wins that. But Surreal got circling to his right, getting away from the power, jabbing, teething, made Tom kick. He had some low kicks that were effective. We'll take a look at some of the stats in a second, but it was a more variety Tom Aspinall.

Hell, there were multiple times where Aspinall would change levels and use his feints and change levels and actually tried to take Sorrel down a couple times. I think one, surreal will get to it, people are saying he poked him in the eye when he was, yes, his hand happened to hit Tom in the face because he was framing, which is something that's very normal in MMA and there's really no way to get rid of it unless you want guys to walk around with closed fists and if that's the case, just put boxing gloves on them

and call yourselves the markets of Queensberry. Or Moytie or kickboxing or whatever else. This is MMA, the gloves are open. We're going to have the debate in a second. Another time, Cyril did a great job of, again, getting his hands lower, getting his level lower, getting his underhook, not letting Tom take him down, shucking him off and circling.

This was a better Seril gone than you had seen against Alexander Volkov. Clearly he was more prepared. Clearly he was better. reverse than his takedown defense and also again it's a different scenario but hear me out tom as an offensive wrestler isn't as good as john jones is and again i don't mean this to be a tom versus john comparison but it should show you how good john jones is with his timing with his level change with the understanding of the body lock they were two completely different takedowns tom tried to

athletically kind of get into his double leg john slipped outside of the left hand got to the body lock and then a trip, but still, it shows you a bit more of the setup and execution of John Jones and his takedown versus Tom Aspinall. I'm going to be athletic now. And it didn't work the same way because it's not the same setup. And it takes a little bit more nuanced and technique and timing and an opportunity, right? Cyril didn't overextend and give Tom the opportunity. So he'd shot anyway and work that way.

I'm hyping Cyril up here because I thought he did a really good job in this first round. I thought he was winning the first round. But again, this was not some dominant first round. Tom Aspinall not just had moments He was feeling his way into this fight He was getting himself back into the groove of his thing Again, he's been out for freaking what two years There's a terrible situation more so for Tom Aspinall

When we get into the eye poke and everything else This is way worse for him because he's been out for two years It's four minutes in the cage He's gonna be out for another extended period Doesn't get a win doesn't get the reps Doesn't get the experience that he is missing out on so badly And you saw some of that Especially early in the fight, he was tagged, the head was on the center line, he wasn't able to make Surreal miss as much and make him pay.

But he was able to, without making a miss sometimes make him pay. He was able to sneak the right hand through. He caught Sorrel with a couple good right hands upstairs. In fact, he was the more dominant puncher upstairs. The head strikes went to Tom Aspenol. As we take a look at the numbers, this is why I say it wasn't a dominant fight in the first round towards Surreal God. He was winning the first round, in my opinion, but it wasn't some domination bulldozing. Look at Tom, he's a fraud type of thing.

three more punches, or I should say strikes. Then Tom Aspinall did in the first round. And the way it breaks down is Aspinall went to the head more, 14 to 25. Cyril was 8 of 16 to the body. Cyril was 9 of 11. Tom was 5 of 6. And to the legs, Tom was 8. Hey, it's us to Jonas Brothers.

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And that's what you wanted to see from Tom Aspinall and Cyril Gun. For Surreal, he'd come off a stretch of, oh man, you know, the not great performance versus Volkov and, you know, the John Jones performance. And he's dropped by Tai Taitu Ivasa and he comes off a close fight with Francis Ngano. You wanted to see him get back to those, those, you know, dynamic ways when he was a bit younger. So both guys were having their moments. This was shaping up to be a good one. And then we get to the eye poke. The moment in question happens, I don't remember the time.

Probably about 25 seconds left in the round. They're both in the center of the octagon. There's an exchange where Cyril goes back foot out of Southpaw body kick. And he doesn't quite commit to it. And Tom at the same time wants to throw his left hook. So he steps in to throw his left hook. He kind of leans in as he throws it. And Cyrilagan throws the body kick.

But also as he throws his body kick, he wants to post with his backhand, right? Because he's coming out of Southpaw. Here comes the left kick. He's going to post with his backhand because he's put himself out there, hasn't quite committed to it. And now you have to find a way to frame, use that post, and get back out of range, right? Now, when that happens, he not only gets one, he gets both of Tom Aspinall's eyes, gets his fingers directly into the eyes.

and both Tom's eyes are kind of closed. Luckily, I think for him, if they were open, he probably definitely would have scratched a cornea or something. It would have been some sort of abrasion. He may still have that. I haven't had an update on what's going on with Tom Aspinall's eyeballs. When that happens, and here's where the controversy comes into play, he also is pushing, right?

And I'm going to try to explain this in a way that's unbiased, so just bear with me if you can. Cyril gets him, and it's a bad eye poke. We can look at it here. So you can see here, Surreal has his middle and index finger in Tom's eye. for sure. No doubt about it. He's in the eyes. Now, as people are going to say on the internet digs in, which is not what happens. He's trying, first off, to post. You see the hand come in,

he's not fingers outstretched purposely. I'm going to stab you in the eyes now, Captain Insano style. That's not what's happening. He's trying to post with his palm. The problem is he doesn't get his post. Instead, he gets under Tom's chin. And when you happen to go from there to under the chin, look where the eyes can go. The fingers are going to go into the eyeballs. That's just a natural thing that's going to happen when you press away. And also, there's no one really framing like this. You know, no one really frames this way when they're fighting. It is mostly here. And your hands are naturally in a C shape to catch and parry. So yes, if he's posting, there's going to be a little bit of that still there. So again, boom, into the eyes. Not great. 100% Tom gets poked here. And again,

They go deeper into the eyes, but this is not, in my opinion, this is not because of a purposeful dig and rake. This is because I need to get out of range because you've gotten too close and I'm trying to push and catch my frame and my post, right? But again, it's not great. And honestly, the one on the left of Tom's body looks like it gets the worst end of it. But it's actually the one on Tom's right that I think he ends up being more worried about, which is crazy. Now, this is why I say it's not on purpose or anything else. The things I've done. already told you on top of the fact that surreal is winning the fight, at least on paper, he's winning the round. He has no reason to purposely poke Tom in the eyeballs and risk

the fight being called off when he's winning the round, when he's having success. That doesn't make any sense to me. But also when his hands leave Tom's face, you don't see a raking, you see them coming down the center of his face. You don't see them digging and scratching. You see them coming down the center of his face. Now again, when we look at Tom in the post-fight interview, he is holding a rag up to his right eye and squinting with his right eye. So the middle finger must have gotten Tom worse. And this is where the, I want to dispel a lot of the narrative stuff. I don't think that Surreal did this on purpose. I think that again, he's using a post, much like I've been linked to the picture of him trying to stop Tom's takedown. Let me see if I can find it really quickly.

So, I mean, this isn't a great picture, but this is again a situation. where Gahn gets caught in an orthodox stance and Tom level changes doesn't really fully commit to the takedown here but he level changes and reaches like he's going to take him down maybe to come upstairs or something and gone thinking a strike is coming

answers the phone with his backhand and looks to post again with his lead hand which is something that is taught so normally in boxing and kickboxing and most combat sports is a long guard especially in MMA where you don't have boxing gloves

able to just sit here in a high guard. A long guard will save you. A lot of the time where you can go out and catch stuff before it gets to you. And this is what a lot of MMA fighters do. When you see them trying to catch kicks and swipe away, or you see them again with a long guard that tries to catch punches on the arm versus let me just do my high guard and hope these four ounces can take a fucking 260 pound man's right hand. It's not going to work. So when I saw people saying he's in doing this intentionally, it makes me think that a lot of the MMA community doesn't actually understand They just understand narrative. They just understand conspiracy.

And that's not what happened. At least again, in my opinion. So no, I don't think Surreal did this on purpose. He is at fault because he did poke Tom Aspinall. And here's the thing that made me the most mad is people saying Tom Aspinall quit, right? Because I've defended Surreal. I don't think he did it on purpose. It's still his fault because he did it.

But I don't think he did it on purpose, which is why the fight was a no contest. One, because enough time in fighting hadn't happened yet. And two, there wasn't a definitive declaration of like intent behind the iPop. The thing that made me more mad was seeing everyone say Tom Aspinall quit. Tom Aspinall was looking for a way out. He couldn't out athletic, Cyril, he was getting busted up, he was getting dominated, so he needed a way out of there. Are you fucking kidding me? Just as bad as this conspiracy of Surreal is such a dirty fighter.

How dare he, he did this on purpose, what a piece of shit. The people on the other side of this, Tom Aspinall, after two years off, came into this fight with every opportunity in front of him. You win, you get either Alex Pereira or you get John John. Jones at the White House. That's the guy you think quit after everything that he had to go through just to get a fight. De-quit. In the biggest moment of his career, get the fuck out of here. And by the way, I said this same thing when Henry Suhudo was called a quitter by a lot of people online on YouTube and people in the comments called him a fucking quitter when he didn't want to continue after getting double-poked in his eyes and saying he couldn't see. Tom Aspenol did the same here and all of a sudden

it seems to happen again. You guys can't do this kind of stuff. Calling fighters, quitters because they've been blinded in an eye or two? Not how it goes, man. Tom tells the outside physician he can't see. What is he supposed to do? Fight with no vision? Fight with one eye. Compromised? When a foul has occurred? I don't think that's the answer. I think Tom was well within his right to not fight here. And he's absolutely not a quitter. I even saw Chale Sondon say, oh, sometimes you have to fight with one eye. Yeah, if you get punched in the eye, that makes sense. When Anthony Smith and Chale are like, oh, you know, it looked like Tom didn't want to be in there. I've quit before and I know. I was like, if you, you know, if you're, you're like, if you

You get punched in the eye and it's not a foul, then yeah, you gotta keep fighting on. But if you get fingers into your eyeballs and it's a clear foul, you don't have to keep fighting and you shouldn't keep fighting because what is that? It doesn't matter if you're the heavyweight champion of the world. There isn't some code that comes with heavyweight championships that says you must fight through injury because of foul. You want to represent your belt for sure. And yes, it's a tough man sport, but you want to do that under a fair rule set and under a fair fight. And again, I'm not saying Cyril did it on purpose, but he was going to be at an inherent disadvantage because

of a foul and he couldn't see how do we expect him to do anything else i have no problem with tom aspinall saying i'm not continuing i can't see which i don't think he said i'm not continuing he just kept saying i can't see which is essentially him being like i can't fight i can't see it's a terrible look for this fight i mean yeah this was the big moment for the heavyweight division to finally get going again and not just be so stagnant and held up and john doesn't want to fight or maybe he does and now he doesn't and then he's retired maybe he'll come back and then you have again tom defending his interim belt in the same challengers, the Cyril, the Alexander Volkov, those type of guys being in that top scene, you need to get the cogs and the wheels out and get it going again.

This just didn't help things. This is for the UFC, this is the worst thing that could have happened in this fight. Like, you had really two scenarios. You had Cyril Gan wins and John Jones in the mind of himself and maybe the fan of the UFC that goes, see, Tom should have never fought this Tom Aspinall guy because he was never on that level. I don't believe that, but people would have said that had surreal one. Because again, one plus one doesn't equal two in this sport. If Tom Aspinall wins, you have your next grade heavyweight. And you can have him challenge John at the White House or you can have him challenge Alex Pereira, who by the way was watching this fight. And when it went to the no contest, he kind of threw his hands up like, and that was

kind of the feeling like, ah, there goes another opportunity. And again, it's not just people on the internet that are like accusing Tom of like quitting or not wanting to fight. Is Dana White? And this video told me a lot about how Dana White looks at Tom Aspinall. Listen at this. Great showing, shitty ending, you know. I think that after the Jones fight, a lot of people wrote Cyril gone off. He looked damn good tonight. Would you like to just rebook these guys as soon as Tom is able to get? By the way, I agree with Dana on that part, 1,000%. The MMA community kind of, well, the Tom Aspinall super diehard fans, kind of boxed themselves into a corner. Because on one hand, they said that John Jones beating Cyril gone was not a great win and that

John was washed up and over the hill, but on the other said that Tom was going to also smoke Cyril Gahn, so if he didn't do it, they kind of put themselves in this position where, uh, well, if the old man John Jones got it done in under two minutes and your boy couldn't get it done, what's that say, right? Like they kind of played into exactly what John Jones wanted them to do, and by doing that, underestimated how good Cyril Gahn is with purely his striking, and if he got better with his takedown defense, how he would potentially be a problem. And he was. Again, my opinion, he was winning this fight. It would have been a very interesting, second, third, fourth, fifth, but Tom is going to have to make adjustments. And so was

surreal, but this is two years off. How was Tom going to do not only making the adjustments, but also with the gas tank and not being as explosive? There was a lot of things at play here. So I agree with Dana there. Back in the... Yeah, total pain in the ass, but yes, as soon as possible. It's unfortunate that it ended the way that it did. And yes, I think that there probably will be a lot more interest in the rematch after they saw, you know, I mean, he had Tom bloodied up. and you know Tom didn't didn't want to continue in the fight

so the rematch is very interesting that's a very very specific way of wording things from Dana White Tom didn't want to continue the fight now again I think Dana White might hate Tom Asper I think he might hate him and I think there's a couple of reasons for it so here is the interview from TNT sports box office

Dana White sitting down and he's asked about what Tom Aspinall said about his friend, anti-Delijah, who I think is ranked number 10 right now in the UFC. And essentially he was like, I am not going to fight him if he were to ever fight for the belt. Listen to this. This is, I think, part of why Dana White, again, I think he hates Tom Aspinol. He's already said that the guy that's currently ranked number 10 is his friend,

anti-Delijah. And he would vacate the title if Delijah got to a point where he was going to fight for the title. So my friend and trainee partners just got to the UFC. So he's potentially like two or three wins away from like a title shot. So the thing is if I didn't, if I'd never won a title, I'd never touched gold before. I would like we'd have to fight. And now I've done it. I would be like, I'll vacate it and he can have his time.

Firstly, what do you think about that? You know what I think about that before you can ask me. I hate that, you know. Many friends, relatives, name it, have all fought each other before. You know, it doesn't determine whether you are friends with somebody or you hate. somebody, you're competing against them to see who the best is. But that's his decision. You know, to even think about vacating it because you don't want to compete against somebody is absolutely insane. But he's a grown man. That's up to him.

Okay. That's number one. That's strike one. Strike two, obviously, is that Dana White does believe that John Jones is the greatest of all time. And obviously, you know, this probably certified that to Dana. But also, there was the interview from Tom Aspinall's dad that came out. It wasn't really an interview, kind of a backstage thing, before the fight, talking about Tom Aspinall's future plans that are probably not going to be with the UFC. You said that. You wanted a boxing champion.

You're okay with an MMA champion, but you wanted a boxing champion. Boxing for sure. The money is more money. More money. Why not? Would that be an outcome for him? No. There's three more fights on a contract now.

Okay. And I don't want to sign a new contract. Okay. Personally. Not good. Again, it's not necessarily a. a bad thing to have future plans or whatever, but it's like, uh, probably shouldn't be talking about that when you're the heavyweight champion of the world out in public before your title defenses. That

combined with this performance, combined with Dana's probably already slight bias against Tom, is making for a terrible situation for Tom Aspinall. Because this isn't the worst thing that could have happened to Tom. He could have gotten knocked out flat out cold and it would have been even worse, but this is not good. When the boss thinks of you like that, especially when the boss determines, what happens next. But I think Dana's wrong. I think he's wrong for, for, for, for going after Tom. And again, I think those were pointed words on purpose, like saying he didn't want to fight versus he couldn't fight versus he couldn't see, like whatever you wanted to say. Dana could have easily come to his defense there and he chose not to. I think that was on purpose.

Now, with all of that being said, that was also asked about Tom's condition. And here was D.C. After the fight talking about what he had heard, he's there in Abu Dhabi. This is what he had to say. I saw Tom Aspinall. His right eye is covered in a... bandage because he cannot open it still. We're 20 minutes past the fight ending. And what's crazy about that is his other eye was the one where his hand went knuckle deep. The right side was scraped down more. The left side was the one that went knuckle deep and really would have been hard to deal with if not for the pain he was seen on the other side. Tom was very upset that people were booing. And then people saw the replay and were like, wait a minute, maybe we should be

one the other guy, then they boot Cyril Gunn. Interestingly enough, I wonder what is worse, right? I mean, going into someone's eye, like, in there, is got to be worse, you would think, because of the structural damage it can cause. But raking against, you know, the eyeball, the iris, probably would do more damage in the short term with the burning and the cut and whatever else that could get in there.

So, I mean, either way, again, I'm still of the full belief that Tom Aspenol could not fight. And it's, like I said, it's an unfortunate thing. but here's the silver lining I say all that to say this here's the silver lining Tom Aspinall and Cyrilgan get another shot at this

and like Dana White said he kind of snuck it in there there will be more interest and intrigue in this rematch now and I think you do have to do it right away I don't think you can sit on this and give it time and oh we'll see maybe we don't maybe no I think this is the time because you already have another fight lined up at heavyweight

one that I think is the right fight to do at heavyweight that doesn't involve Tom Aspinall or Surrey I think you do this rematch. I think both guys have an opportunity with more eyes, no pun intended, on their rematch to put on a great performance. And how about this? The last time Tom Aspinall got into a situation with the knee injury with Curtis Blades, what happened in the comeback fight? He absolutely smoked Curtis. So he has an opportunity now with a little bit of in-Octagon experience recently to get this thing, hopefully his eyes okay, get this thing turned around quickly, hopefully by the end of the year, maybe a December fight, who knows, depending on how long

the eye takes the heel, maybe January, Paramount, I don't know. But you get to go in and you get to try this again and learn from that first round. There's still a lot to learn from both guys in that first round. Tom, maybe he knew Cyril was going to be that difficult to deal with early on and he was pacing himself and that's how a second fight would go anyway, but you can still take some stuff away, okay, I got hit here, maybe I can do something different. I got stuffed on this takedown, why is that? And for Cyril, okay, he hit me with a couple of right hands.

I felt his power. Is there something else I can do to mitigate that? Can I be better with my hand placement or whatever it is, not poking and, you know, framing a different way? Again, I think it was completely accidental, I'm just saying. You get to download information and come back. But while that's going on and while you're planning for the next big heavyweight fight, you have that one set in. The rematch now gets pushed back and it gives time for what I think is the right fight at heavyweight for a John Jones return.

It's John Jones and Alex Barrera. It is. And John had this to say on Twitter. First off, this is a little petty. But John Jones is known to be a little petty after the guys that either he fights or he is supposed to fight, go out and don't have the greatest performance. He says, you know, I told you once again,

it's kind of the Connor McGregor effect. After the fight ends, here come the Twitter fingers. He put an eye patch over the duck emoji, which he was being called a duck for not fighting. Tom Aspinall. There you go. But then he tweeted and he said, Alex, I'd be down to bring the highest skill level to the White House.

I appreciate the respect you showed last day. It's again, a little shot there. at Tom Aspinall with the highest skill level. Essentially, John is saying, Alex Pereira, you're the guy I want. And Pereira said the same thing. He posted a video watching this go down. And it says, let's make the heavyweight division great again

with the Poetons, Stoneface emoji, and the Bones Jones at the White House. So they're on the same page. They're pushing for the same thing. I like the fight. I'm sorry. I know you guys don't. And you think that Tom should be the rightful, I don't know, flag bearer for the heavyweight division.

He should be the one taking on Pereira as he moves. to heavyweight for the three belts or should be the one taking on Jones because that was his fight but here's the problem when you go to a no contest like this you can't leave that story unfinished Tom and Cyril have to run this back because sirrill was winning the fight and Tom was still there and he was still close and it was a good back and forth but he's the champ so he's got to go and finish that now and even if he is going to do it in January February you could book this for June summertime Tom fights the winner at the end of next year or whatever I don't know but I just think this is the way you do it.

And it made sense when they were first talking about John versus Alex Pereira. And it makes sense now. So yeah, I know it's a long-winded way of saying, listen, you're going to see a lot of narrative on MMA YouTube. And it's going to be built on emotion. And it's going to be built on bias. And it's going to be built on want and frustration and despair. But the reality of this fight is simply,

there was a awful, unfortunate mistake from Cyril Gun that happens when fighting with open hand gloves, the eyepokes are not just exclusive to Surreal, they're not just exclusive to John Jones, it happens. And it happens a lot in MMA. People act like it doesn't, but it does. And until the UFC do a Trevor Whitman hybrid glove that makes the fingers bend in, and even when you're framing, there's that cover over them or the pride glove hybrid, something, they're always going to run into this. It's just a matter of fact, until you, or you make guys try to do their frames like this, which is nonsensical. Guys are going to fight loose, their hands are going to be here. They're naturally in that C shape anyway.

It's just a reality of fighting. It sucks, but that's the sport. If you want closed fists, watch boxing, moitai, or kickboxing. If you want free hand movement for posts and grabs and wrist control and underhooks and overhooks, you're going to get hands free. That's how it's going to be. But that's the reality of this, is it's a massive mistake. It's, yes, technically the fault of Cyril Gan for having his hands go into the eyes of Tom Aspinall,

but it was not intentional. And a no contest is the right call. There was no malintent, no matter how many conspiracies and arrows and, circles you're going to see on people's YouTube videos. It's just the reality of fighting. Things like this happen. It really fucking sucks. But the only three words that matter are run it back. Do it soon and we can move past this. Anyway, real quick wrap up before we get out of here. Verne Yondroba versus McKenzie Dern. I'm happy for McKenzie Dern. The fight wasn't the greatest thing in the world. But you know what? McKenzie Dern gets her championship. She is the new strawweight world

champion in the UFC. Good back and forth. I didn't think it was worthy of the Komein, but it's championship fight, so fair play. Mackenzie Duren gets the victory. Umar Numa Gameda versus Mario Bautista. Bautista almost stopped him. Hit him with a knee on a high kick and almost stopped Umar. I will say this. I was ready. Before this fight started, I was ready to say, Umar, next title shot, things could be different this time around versus Marab. And maybe they still can be because Umar has a ton of variety and he's a great wrestler and he's a great striker. But what I saw here was a tired Umar, a guy that if this is a five-round fight with Marab again, is going to get tired again. And Marab is just a machine.

I did not see. Even with this victory, it was a very good win because Mario Bautista is a motherfucker. I didn't see enough to make me change my mind that if they rematch, I'm still picking Marab. Because that guy doesn't have any fatigue in him. It doesn't show it. His fights don't slow down. He is just a machine. Still have to make the fight happen, but I thought I'd see more out of Umar here.

Alexander Volkov and Jildsen Almeida. This one was fun because Almeida essentially did the recent Almeida style fight where it's the lay and prey. You know, he lands a takedown, there's not much action, he controls you and then the round ends. Go again and again. Except this time Alexander Volkov, even with the most minimal striking from the bottom, I mean literally laying on his back and throwing baby hammer fists, that was enough to win this fight. And you know, it was more than that, but you get, those were the difference makers.

Off his back, he was landing elbows, hammer fist. When they stood up, he was landing knees in the clinch, and there was not a ton of action in this fight. There just wasn't. But the action and the damage, if there was any, was coming from Alexander Volkov, and he wins a split decision whilst being controlled for damn near most of the fight.

Good for him. After the Surreal Gone robbery, he gets one back. So good for Volkov, man. Azamat Mirzikana, with a jab, knocks out Alexander Rackage in the first round of their fight. It was insane to see. That was a massive win. He remains undefeated.

Directly jumping into the top echelon of light heavyweight. I couldn't even believe. He knocked him out while the step in like power stiff jab. He even retract the punch. Just dush. And that was a shock to me. But hey, Merza Kanoff is fucking for real. I'm super pumped to see him next.

My unsung hero and one of the nastiest, cleanest headkicks I've ever seen, Quillin Salkil. Who is this guy? I know I'm the casual concept, but I want to see more of him. He knocked out Nazarack Hac-Pressed with a head kick that was picture perfect, and thank God Nazarad is okay. He laid their face down on the floor twitching for like two minutes. It was nasty.

I want to see Quillen a lot more. His name is Sal Killed and he damn near Sal killed a man, dude. Walter Walker with another heel hook in the first round. That's fucking crazy. But yeah, good fight, good card. Terrible ending for the U.S. but a silver lining for both Tom Aspinall and Cyril Gone. If everybody is healthy and we can turn this thing around quickly,

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